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What would make it OU?

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What would make it OU?
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no stealth rocks
ice having more than just one defensive strength
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>>25032302
hail boosting the defensive power of Ice mons like sandstorm does for Rock
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Having neither of its current types.
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>>25032308
Well, only adding things, not taking away. Or changing what already exists.

So, changing Ice-Types' weaknesses or changing Stealth Rock's functions.
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>>25032302
no guard
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>>25032302
Ice Shard and gale wings. Ice having resists thats not just Ice.
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>>25032302
A mega evolution on top of a mega evolution
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>>25032302
Magic Guard for its ability and a move that boosts both of its defenses by one stage and restores 25% health.
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>>25032336
>implying you wouldn't freeze long before then
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>>25032302
Gen 1 re-release.
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>>25032344
NOOOOO

THIS ISN'T A NEW THREAD

SORRY
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It should have a stronger version of Freeze-Dry (with 100 or 110 BP) as a signature move.

We basically already have this with Victini (Searing Shot vs. Lava Plume) and Mewtwo (Psystrike vs. Psyshock)
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>>25032302
An ice version of Scald (so a lower bp, one turn Ice Burn), as well as Magic Guard

Arriving is so bad and Seafoam Islands are so much of an optional pain in the ass that I never really look at or think about Articuno. But man, is it a good design
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>>25032302
Technician and vacuum wave.

That + frost breath makes it a straight monster.
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>>25035084
Technician with access to Air cutter, Vacuum wave, and omnious wind and you'd have a pretty good bird for BL.

HP Electric or Fire would make it even deadlier with the insta-crit 90 BP frost breath.

Shame its typing is awful, low speed, and Stealth Rocks would keep it from ever breaking BL.
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>>25032302
speed boost and nasty plot
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>>25032302

Hyper voice refrigerate. (Not really)

or

No guard.

or

Giving it a bigger movepool. Nasty plot might make it good.
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>>25032302
Ice resist all types its good against besides flying
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>>25035176
>another type resists grass

I think it makes sense, but come on.
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>>25032302
Clear image
Type OU over it
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>>25032302
+100 speed. OU easily.
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>>25035130
that does sound pretty rad. but it really comes down to Ice getting some kind of buff. I think they have the fewest OU pokes out of all types
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Having a move that increases accuracy to 100 and Sheer Cold combined with bulk is more than enough.
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Mega increasing it's speed, with no guard.

>muh sheer cold

Just ban OHKO's for official tournaments. Actually free blizzard + hurricane makes it OU easily
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>>25032302
>only legendary burd to have Sp. Atk nerfed when the Special stat was split
Fucking why? Why has GF always been so clinically retarded when designing Ice types stats?

Still fucking love Articuno though. It's absolutely the best designed legendary IMO, and it gets plenty of neat moves.
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>add something like compoundeyes/no guard
>hurricane+blizzard
>¿¿¿¿¿
>still UU at best, fuck

Give it a new magic guard hidden ability and give it's mega prankster or something I guess.
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quiver dance

it has the bulk to pull this exactly once on anything not carrying rock.
Its 85 base speed catapults to something like an equivalent 150 and so does its special attack. Depending on how much health it has, it can even take most priority moves.
252+ Atk Choice Band Talonflame Brave Bird vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Articuno: 235-277 (73.2 - 86.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Pretty nice. Dies to scizor though.

Might break OU just by sheer gimmick force who knows.
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An Ice type equivalent of Gale Wings + Oblivion Wing + Earth Power. That's the best you can manage, and even then it may end up BL or UU because of how shitty its typing is. Giving Ice a Flying resist could help.
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Linked moves from PMD are introduced into the maingame with a max of 2 moves, articuno is now not only the bane of VGC but the best pokemon in the game.
Put a scarf on it.
Link mind reader and sheer cold.
Meme.
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>>25032302
Nothing. Ice types are beyond salvation at this point, only a reboot like ADV can save them.
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Alright, here goes-

Articuno:

New abilities:

Refrigerate
Snow Warning
Aerilate

New Moves available:

Boomburst
Aeroblast
Tail Glow
Aura Sphere
Ice Shard

Hail - New Effect:

Raises the Sp.Def of all Ice types by 50%

What tier is Articuno now?
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>>25036008
BL2
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>>25036026
You don't seem to get it.

Aerilate + Tail Glow + Aero Blast/Hurricane

That's an extremely lethal combination, even with shit typing.
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remove ice type
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>>25036044
BL2

With kyurem.
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>>25036091
>not smart enough to explain why
k
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>>25036099
oh wait nevermind skimmed -ate.

just boomburst -ate would be enough, not a single nigger would run tail glow. Just slap a scarf/specs on it.
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>>25036115
>just boomburst -ate would be enough
Enough for what?
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>>25036126
OU, do you know how bullshittngly hard that hits?

252 SpA Choice Specs Aerilate Articuno Boomburst vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Mew: 358-423 (104.9 - 124%) -- guaranteed OHKO
compare
252+ Atk Choice Band Teravolt Kyurem-B Outrage vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mew: 394-465 (115.5 - 136.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO

And shit, its slow enough that you could consider bulky modest specs so that's more like
252+ SpA Choice Specs Aerilate Articuno Boomburst vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Mew: 393-463 (115.2 - 135.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
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>>25032317
Flying is one of the best types
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>>25032354
>Implying this beta faggot has the stamina to not blow in seconds
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>>25036008
>New abilities:
Add Gale Wings to that ability list, on top of everything else listed in that post.

Is it OU yet?
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>>25036150
In your dreams maybe.
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>>25032302
Gale Ice
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