What do you guys use to deal with Machoke? No Guard DP + Knock off is rather difficult to switch in. I'd like to use something other than Colbur berry Grumpig.
She's one of my favorite pokemon, but I just can't find a good way to run her. I really wish that she learned better moves.
it has no counters because your pokemon will hit itself in confusion every single time, you're probably better off stalling out dynamicpunch PP
gourgeist-super is tanky and can take a knock off pretty handily and burn it in return
unburden drifblim also doesn't mind being knocked off and can threaten it out with acrobatics
rocky helmet swalot's probably decent, you can run sticky hold so it can't get knocked off
offensive teams handle it a lot better, things like kadabra and banded dodrio can OHKO it unless it has defensive investment and can pressure it to switch in and out
and when all else fails, use the ultimate counter known as
>sticky hold doesn't prevent the knock off from being boosted, though
>the item won't be removed, but knock off will always have 97.5 BP
This needs to be fixed in Gen 7. Not that Game Freak will, they buffed Scald in Gen 6 after all.
Rate my team, /vp/. I just built it recently after I got out of PU for a while. I haven't played much with it, but I'm something like 9-1.
Audino @ Leftovers
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
- Knock Off
- Heal Bell
Pretty standard cleric shit. Knock off is great because offensive stuff that likes to switch in usually hates losing its item.
Electrode @ Focus Sash
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
- Volt Switch
- Hidden Power [Ice]
Kind of an anti-lead. Good for grabbing momentum and stopping pebbles and setup sweepers and stuff. Gives the team some much needed speed and is about as perfect of a Chatot counter as can be. Also useful for taking down Articuno on a team that doesn't have rocks.
Relicanth @ Choice Band
Ability: Rock Head
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 SpD
- Head Smash
- Zen Headbutt
Pretty standard banded set. It's here because it's one of my favorite Pokemon and not really much else. Something else probably would be good to take this slot though it one or two shots nearly everything. Serves as one of the two water types in a FWG core.
Gourgeist-Super @ Leftovers
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 SpD
- Bullet Seed
- Leech Seed
Pretty standard physical wall. I really like this thing. Also is the grass in my FWG core.
Rapidash @ Leftovers
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
- Drill Run
- Flare Blitz
- Wild Charge
- Morning Sun
Good for getting rid of Leafeon and most other grass types. Fire in the FWG core.
Pelipper @ Leftovers
Ability: Keen Eye
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
IVs: 0 Atk
My other source of physical bulk on the team. Also the hazard remover. Another water type.
Was Poliwrath moving up to NU the single biggest shakeup that ever happened to PU? I mean, it was the reason that Carracosta and Barbaracle got banned, and once they were gone, Vigoroth took its place at the top of PU before just getting banned. I guess megas and their base forms being tiered separately probably doesn't help either with Audino dropping.
What set do you guys use? He has a really good movepool and decent stats, but the lack of reliable STAB is a real kick in the balls. I've actually had some surprising success with a Mega Aerodactyl set using
We all desperately want him to get Brave Bird (fucking Crobat gets it) and Head Smash. Hopefully if we meme hard enough, GF will give in and do what they did with Flareon finally getting Flare Blitz.
Bumping for best tier
Pelipper is a pretty big deal since it's a pretty good user of defog and tanky physically, but Banette is probably shit. I mean, it's a physically offensive ghost in the tier, which is kinda cool, I guess but it still has shit for a movepool and stats, so it's really just a shitty Dusknoir. Overall, pretty meh tier adjustment.
>tfw Torterra and Poliwrath are just on the verge of falling
this bump's for you, opee
Is Vullaby not a good physically bulky Defogger?
Well there's Dodrio, it's really good and not particularly common. You can even use stuff like Mr. Mime and Stunfisk. Mr. Mime can be very fun since it has bunch of different viable sets that you can catch your opponents off guard.