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/vp/ Official Best/Worst Poll 2014
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THE RESULTS ARE IN!

Happy New Year, /vp/! Midnight GMT has passed and that means that the poll is closed!

Who did /vp/ vote "Best Generation" and "Worst Generation"? Which generation had the best Pokemon design, music, plot, aesthetics, and post game content?

The answer to those questions is right here! 970 members of /vp/ checked out the poll, and discounting those who failed the filter, here are the results!

BEST POKEMON DESIGN:
Winner: Generation 3
Runner Up: 1
Followed by: 2, 5, 6, 4

BEST GAMEPLAY:
Winner: Generation 5
Runner Up: 6
Followed by: 4, 3, 2, 1

BEST POST GAME CONTENT:
Winner: Generation 4
Runner Up: 5
Followed by: 3, 2, 6, 1

BEST MUSIC:
Winner: Generation 3
Runner Up: 4
Followed by: 5, 2, 6, 1

BEST AESTHETICS:
Winner: Generation 6
Runner Up: 4
Followed by: 5, 3, 2, 1

BEST PLOT AND LORE:
Winner: Generation 5
Runner Up: 4
Followed by: 6, 3, 2, 1

AND FINALLY!

BEST OVERALL:
Winner: Generation 5
Runner Up: 3 and 4 TIED
Followed by: 6, 2, 1

Bonus:
"Of the following HM moves, which has the pokemon pikachu never been able to learn by any legal means. "
23 people picked Surf
146 people picked Strength
204 people picked Fly

You can see all of the results and comments here. https://www.surveymonkey.net/results/SM-C77LCVMV/

Remember, all discussion here is to be civil! No genwars!
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So how did 5 get the most overall?
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>>22387558
>23 people picked Surf
>23 people were too young to remember the Surfing Pikachu game
I, for one, enjoyed playing Excitebike in Pokemon.

And the winners are all correct, except music. Not fond of design, either, but not the worst pick.
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>>22387651
That's just how the voting went, but if we went by individual numbers, it won Best Gameplay and Best Plot/Lore, came in second for best Post Game, and third for best Music.

Overall, it was a pretty solid generation.
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>>22387667
Music should have been gen 2
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>I picked Fly
fuck you nerds
at least the results pretty much match what I would have voted anyways
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Gen 1 is the definitive worst, according to /vp/, in everything but Pokemon design.

Ouch.
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>>22387700
it easily is if you look objectively and not "how it was at the time" since the latter games only improved on the formula it really isn't that special
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>>22387684
That was my runner up choice. I voted 5.

5 > 2 > 4 > 1 > 6 > 3

I can only think ORAS is changing people's opinion on Gen 3 retroactively.

>>22387700
I still like Gen 1 solely for glitchmons but it's been outdone in every single other area by another game at this point.
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>>22387558
Wow, it's nice to see some actual good taste.
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>>22387728
that's because we filtered the tards anon.
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>>22387725
nah, gen 3 music was good even on the gba. faggot
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>>22387558
Didn't these threads say there were over 2000 responses or something?
>970
kek
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>>22387827
Negative. Every thread I counted either "almost x00" or "over x00", and the final thread was "over 900, let's hit 1000!"
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Can we get this stickied somehow? Quality work OP. Hopefully this will put a rest to some gen warring
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>>22387827
nah dude remember when he said there was over 9000 what a liar
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>gen 5 best overall
what, how. I thought people hated it. I'm shocked.
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>>22387992
My shock comes from how high Gen 4 was ranked in everything. I get music, but man, Gen 4 was my least favorite all around.
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>>22387558
>midnight GMT
way to go, excluding the west coast. dipshit
there's a reason no one uses GMT
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>>22388003
it was running for weeks anon.
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>>22387992
it was a really great game.
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>>22387992
who hated it?
it was pretty solid, I think people only disliked the starters
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How is Gen 2 so low? jesus
Does 16 gyms and 2 regions mean nothing?
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>>22389136
two regions that may as well both be a third of a region each
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>1 last in most categories
GENWUNNERS BTFO
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>>22387558
>mfw you filter out the tards and /vp/ actually has great taste
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>>22389136
2 is easily the worst gen
it improves upon Gen I, but it doesn't add enough to really stand on its own as anything other than an expansion for I

Gen I is pretty simplistic, but its not a bad game and everything holds together
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>>22390226
>gen 2 is the worst
>it improves on gen 1

Uh
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Ayy lmao
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>>22387558
>Gen 5 won
Fuck yeah.

Anyways, pic related OP. Good work.
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>Gen 5 won
Could it be? Does /vp/ actually have good taste?
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>>22391441
when you filter the tards, yes.
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>>22387667
I remember I picked surf because I misread the question and thought it was asking which hm it COULD learn
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>>22387685

Underage detected.
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>>22387711
>if you look objectively
>topics are all subjective
I think you mean "without nostalgia goggles".
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At first I was like Gen 4 won in postgame?!? It must have been those Johtards and their empty extra fanpandering region
But then Gen 5 won overall ;')
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>>22388001
Because Gen 4 was also a very solid generation. Disregarding the horrible battle speed, the games brought a lot of new and interesting stuff. Four Runner Up and one Winner is a good proof that it had quality.

I'm glad to finally see some real taste in a poll without it being rigged, especially since now with this Gen 2 loudmouthers will finally shut up.

OP was not a faggot today, you better screencap the OP, OP.
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>>22387558
>Best pokémon design
>Gen 3 aka the beginning of overdesign

>Generation 5
>Better "gameplay" than 6

>Best postgame content
>Not gen 5

>Best music
>Trumpetland

>gen 1 and 2 are almost always dead last

With this results we can confirm /vp/ are a bunch of reverse-nostalgia fags.
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>>22393260
>overdesign

stopped reading right there
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Gen 5 definitely had the best sprites.
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My favourite meta was gen 4.
Shit was good.
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My only complaint is Gen 5 coming above gen 4 for Lore, Sinnoh had mythology and creation coming out of its ears, Black and White just had some vague reference to some random dragon that split into three
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>>22393416
This I don't get, Gen 4 should have won lore by a long shot.
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>>22393424
>>22393416
Lore AND plot.Gen IV had best lore but plot was not as good as B/W, even though Team Galactic was okay.I feel that gen V had the best music too if only thanks to PWT battle themes but can't win them all I guess
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BEST POKEMON DESIGN:
6 > 1 > 5 > 3 > 2 > 4
BEST GAMEPLAY:
6 > 5 > 4 > 3 > 2 > 1
BEST POST GAME CONTENT:
5 > 4 > 3 > 2 > 6 > 1
BEST MUSIC:
5 > 3 > 4 > 6 > 1 > 2
BEST AESTHETICS:
6 > 5 > 3 > 4 > 2 > 1
BEST PLOT AND LORE:
5 > 6 > 2 > 3 > 4 > 1
BEST OVERALL:
5 > 6 > 4 > 3 > 2 > 1
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>>22393479
Finally some good taste.
At least on the top picks.
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>>22393330
Just look at the legendaries.
Hoenn look much more futuristic than Kanto/Johto's.
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>>22393543
>fighter jet
>more futuristic than gene manipulation
?
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>>22393479
xygote pls go
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>>22393479
This good fucking taste. Mostly the same for me, except I like Gen VI music the best.
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>>22393863
Mewtwo is a mutant Mew, it's legendary status is debatable.

Meanwhile the jet twins look almost robotic.

Ray/Kyo/Groud also look very unnatural with thick yellow/black/red patterns and bright colors.

The regi trio look alienlike thanks to the wierd "face".
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>>22393967
Gen III legends are just fucking ugly.
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>>22387558
>best music: 3
>muh trumpets
>either 1 or 2 not on the number one spot

FUCKIN HOW?
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>>22387558
Wow /vp/ sure hates gen 1
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>>22387558
>Fly
but pikachu did learn fly and it used balloons
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>>22393330
>implying gen 6 had good gameplay
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>>22393479
>6 best anything
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>>22395266
Oops
>>22393260
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>>22390561
>>22393145
Battle Frontier with phys/spec split was fantastic.
Diamond and Pearl were shit, but Platinum fixed virtually all the problems they had.
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>>22393145
Honestly, HGSS was the primary reason gen 4 was anywhere near the top on any of these choices.
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>>22389136
>2 regions
More like 1 and a half because region 2 was fucking lame thanks to the lack of space.
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>>22397408
To be fair, FRLG, HGSS, and ORAS should have been counted as their original generations.
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>gen 2 so low ranked
/vp/ has horrible taste
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>>22387558
>Winner: Generation 3
>Runner Up: 4
What the fuck
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>>22399595
>gen 4 didn't win best music with 5 as a runner up
Sure isn't sketchy.
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>gen 1fags getting BTFO in 6 of 7 categories
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Neat
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>>22399577
Perhaps it's time to admit that there is nothing exceptional about gen 2 that makes it stand out?
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>>22388001
>My shock comes from how high Gen 4 was ranked in everything
>doesn't understand how gen 4 got runner up for best plot and lore
>doesn't understand how it ranked first for best post game
>doesn't understand how it rank 3rd in best gameplay
C'mon son, did you even play Platinum?
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>>22399632
>>22399651
>early gen music
>bad

Gen I/II may not be the best, but their music was pretty good.
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>>22389136
Anon, if you actually sit down and think for a moment, look at Johto. Look at how small and boring and shitty it is. Now imagine a game where you just had to go through that. It would've fucking sucked. Johto is such a boring ass region and gives Kalos a run for its money. Without Kanto its nothing, you hear me. NOTHING.
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>>22399797
It was pretty good. Its a hell of alot better than Gen 6 bland uninspiring soundtrack. That garbage has very few memorable pieces.
Gen 4 should've won best music though.
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>>22399651
>objectively best pokemon design
>awesome music
>two regions, 16 gyms
>the perfect blend of multiple-region pokemon
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>Best Pokemon design / music: Gen III
Holy shit what? Anyways...

Best Pokemon design:
1 > 6 > 2 > 3 > 4 = 5

Best gameplay:
6 > 5 >4 > 3 > 2 > 1, this is a fact

Best post-game content:
5 > 2 > 4 > 6 > 3 > 1

Best music:
1 = 2 > 6 > 4 > 5 > 3

Best aesthetics:
6 > 4 > 5 > 3 > 2 > 1

Best plot and lore:
All shit

Best overall:
6 > 1 = 2 = 5 > 3 = 4
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>>22399928
also
>a rival who's actually a piece of shit and not just some buddy or neighbor, someone you actually vie to destroy
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>>22399934
>MUH EDGE RIVAL, fuck buddy friendship kiddy shit
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>>22399930
>Holy shit what? Anyways
>then goes and rank gen 6 music that high
Holy fuck, my sides.
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>>22387992
Gen 5 always has been popular, especially on /vp/
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>>22393479
>>22399930
Can someone explain why people rank gen 5 post game above gen 4? I must be missing something.
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>>22399928
>objectively best Pokemon design
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>>22387992
They did. Zelda cycle. When gen seven comes around, everyone here will bitch and cry for the comeback of sixth gen.
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>>22400495
>everyone here will bitch and cry
/vp/ in a nutshell.
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you know the mods on /vp/ really are shit, they should have stickied this by now.
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>>22387558
How did gen 5 do that well in post-game content? How did gen 2 lose to gen 3 and 5?
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>>22400495

>Zelda cycle

doesn't exist, or at least doesn't exist the way people think it does.

when a new game comes out, people who hated the old one don't change their opinion.
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>>22395266
Well I don't know what gameplay really means then.

Thought it was new mechanics like mega evolution, new type chart, new crit chance and dmg, etc.
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>>22403579
Some people do change their opinion when they replay them. For example, when Twilight Princess was released people expected it to be absolutely flawless (which it wasn't). So lots of people hated it at first because it never reached their impossibly high expectations. But after they cooled down and tried it again, they saw that it had solid dungeons and boss battles.
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>>22387558
Gen 2 should be second in post-game and music, gen 6 should be top for gameplay. Other than those and the overall rankings, I can't really argue with the first and second place winners.
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>>22399930
I can agree with this.
Better than /vp/'s colective opinion.
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>>22400173
black city / white forest, PWT, "achievements" you can actually see in game... you might as well do the film making thingie but the fact they force a 10 years old child to make one prevented me from trying...
if your argument for saying gen 4 did not suck is "look at platinium" well, try black2, the only one pokemon game with a hard mode (still easy as fuck but it's a pokemon game...)

but... the simple fact that so few were right about the bonus question, even though you only needed to play HGSS to get the answer may explain one thing or two...
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>>22387700
according to /vp/ yes, meanwhile on the rest of the planet everybody thinks gen 1 is the only generation that matters. Why do you guys have to be such hipsters?
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>>22389136
>2 regions
Yeah I hear this argument every time but GSC Kanto is a sterile, barren piece of trash.
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>>22399930
>>>22399930
>Pokemon design
>1 that high
>5 that low
>2 better than 3

Opinion discarded.
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>>22387992
The biggest flaw is the pokemon design. And it got crushed there.

Anyway, good shit OP.
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>>22403606
Actually you and that faggot have garbage taste.

>5 that low
>genwun having best designs
>gen 6 the best overall

Get the fuck out of here.
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>>22405950
>The biggest flaw is the pokemon design

Not even, it really should have been second place at least, but instead it's fucking genwun. Gen 2 is way too high as well, seriously? Mass-marketing and childhood nostalgia are powerful forces, I guess.

Ah well, good taste overall.
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>>22399928
>>objectively best pokemon design
all the new pokemon were godawful, they felt like rejected first gen designs, like fuck how many of you have fond memories of Stantler and the other shitmons
>>awesome music
cant even remember the music at this point tbh, its was more or less the same as the first game with a few new additions
>>two regions, 16 gyms
all awful, Johto was a tiny piece of shit and none of the gyms are memorable at all, nor are the gym leaders, the two regions together are barely even a fraction of the content Hoenn offered in the next game, and neither is as interesting, honestly I prefer Gen1 over 2 just because at least it was origional and can get a little slack, Gentooo was just lazy and felt like a cheap expansion pack more than a full new game
>>the perfect blend of multiple-region pokemon
more like just the original 150 again with a handful of new shitmons thrown in as well that were tbh rarely used

the love for Gentoooo is worse than Genwon imo because while it is also nothing but nostalgia, at least the first game has the excuse of being the First, while G/S is just a mess of unfinished ideas


compared to Unova which itself is a sort of reboot it doesn't compare in any aspect at all
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>>22405950
>The biggest flaw is the pokemon design.
really? the pokemon design isn't bat at all, its more toned down from GenIV and it seems people focus on one or two evolution lines and ignore the other 150 pokemon they added

more than that some of the hate they get is really unreasonable and seems more like distaste for anything new or that people feel these new pokemon are 'stealing' something from their genwon babies
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>>22406056
forgot pic
Top Tier Gentooo design
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>>22389136
>Does 16 gyms and 2 regions mean nothing?
>2 regions

pls
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Absolutely love Gen 6. It's like a mini Pokemon Stadium without the obvious features. The sprites are great, the music IS BANGING (c'mon seriously, even if you hate everything about ORAS, the music in it is too good). I love me some Gen 2 and 4 as well, but these remakes are fine by me. Glad to see every generation getting a little love one way or another. That's why they're all special.
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