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ITT: We create moves that would make some pokemon broken.

Gengar gets a move that's the special version of sucker punch.
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Recover

Seriously that's it
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>>20619059
That wouldn't make it broken, unstabbed, it already suffers from 4mss on most sets other than 4 attacks

plus it's still frail as shit
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awkward glance
priority +7
status
paralyzes opponents pokemon 100% but drops all of the users stats 6 stages
learned by spinda
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A fire type version of stealth rock
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>>20619092
Who said anything it being Dark type? It could be Ghost typed.
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>>20619165
>Gengar gets a move that's the special version of sucker punch.

He said it would be the special equivalent implying it would be Dark.
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Light of Ruin
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just give m mence extremespeed

>yfw its ogre
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Just give Mega Pinsir Extremespeed.

>yfw it's ogre
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>>20619177
Well, if it was Ghost typed then it would be bretty gud on ghosts.
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Just give Mega Pinsir Roost.

>yfw it's ogre
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>>20619415
Mmm... no it isn't?
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>>20619415
god no pls
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Give Scizor stone edge
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>>20619554
It'd benefit more from rock tomb
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>>20619128
THIS JUST IN. SCIZOR AND FERROTHORN HAVE DROPPED TO NU WHILE HEATRAN IS BANNED TO UBERS.
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>>20619105
No. Not even for pretend. That's just terrifying
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A signature move for Shedinja that is sort of like Giga Drain, but it creates a substitute with that much HP instead of it going to waste.
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>>20619554
Rock Coverage would be great on Scizor, but CB sets beat Talonflame on the switch in with rocks up
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roost on mega pinsir wouldn't be broken, he's already frail, and wasting a turn to roost up is dangerous if your opponent has a electric/fire type attack coming your way, unless you predict a switch perfectly or something
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>Make Badly Poisoned Status also cut Special Attack like Burn does to attack.

I would jizz lasers.
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Not creating but
>Chansey gets WilloWisp
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>>20622938
To be honest, it almost seems fair - physical attackers are vulnerable to both burn and intimidate, but the same risks aren't there for special attackers.
Besides, it makes sense flavour-wise too; I imagine being poisoned makes it pretty hard to concentrate/do whatever it is that gives special attacks oomph.
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>>20623007
>mfw steel special attackers get reason to be used.

Maybe it'll happen.
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>>20623007
yeah, no.

If you're going to do that at least make a physical chansey so phsyical attackers can truly know what its like to be flat out walled.

Also drop half the distro on swords dance and dragon dance, get used to relying on bulk up (calm mind).

Physical attackers need a nerf. Not the other way around.
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>>20623027
>>mfw steel special attackers get reason to be used.
wot
Magnezone is great
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>>20623007
>what is everything and its mother learning toxic
>what is every special attacker in NU
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>>20623160
Actually that's a very good point, I hadn't considered the ridonkulous distribution of toxic.

>>20623049
Also, how do you recommend physical attackers have more checks placed upon them?
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>priority fire
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Sableye:
Haunting Chill
100% chance to Freeze
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>>20623274
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>>20623274
There's being reasonably broken, then there's being fucking stupid. You're about half an inch away from "GUIZE, 200 BP +2PRIORITY WITH ANY STATUS CHANCE!"
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>>20622799
>giving greninja a 3rd signature move
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>>20623261
avalugg being a better type.
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>>20619105
>Homofuck is fully paralyzed!

>Spinda come back!

I like the thought behind putting a punishment behind it, just use it when you're guaranteed not to be killed(when they setup), but reward would usually outweigh risk, it'd be more balanced if it killed self on use.
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>>20623303
Okay. Let me do better.

Ninjask
Speedy Strike - Bug - 80BP - Physical
Uses speed instead of Attack to calculate power.
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>>20623309
>reading comprehension
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>>20622799
>It can be called Soul Suck
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>>20623327
>That flavour
>80BP

Why not just it make the bug version of Electro Ball?
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>>20622799
I would like this idea if it could be implemented in a balanced way, actually.
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>>20623326
I don't think you understand why he specified that Spinda would get it.
Contrary.
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>>20623327
Yes.
That is disgusting, but yes.
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>>20623345
Electro Ball takes into consideration the opponents' speed. I'm talking straight-up using the Speed stat instead of the Attack stat.
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>>20623326
there is no punishment. spinda has contrary. stat drops become boosts.
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Grave Reckoning
Special
Ghost-type
100,000 BP
5 PP
Uses the current HP as the stat in place of special attack for damage calculation. The user must recharge the next turn.
Learned only be Shedinja.
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>>20623431
>anything used mimic
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>>20623367
Well in that case don't give it 80BP, give it --.
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>>20623486
The entire point is that it's fixed BP with Speed used as the damage calculation stat.
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>>20623431
Smeargle used sketch!
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>>20619864
That doesn't make any sense, if Heatran went to ubers Scizor and Ferro would have a field day in OU.
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>Make Toxic a poison type exclusive move
>Make poison cut special Attack by AT LEAST 1/4, 1/2 if feeling generous
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>>20623431
>implying 1 special attack with a move that has 100.000 bp isn't already a OHKO for anything
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>>20623327
add a recoil damage, and that wouldn't be that broken
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>>20624454
>Basically starts with 233 Attack (level 50)
>Speed Boost grants what is effectively an attack boost at the end of every turn
>Virtually only going to be outsped by priority
>Give it a choice scarf and you get what is effectively both a Choice Scarf and Choice Band
Pretty broken.
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>>20623327
add a recoil damage, and that wouldn't be that broken
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>>20622799
It's only available on a special event Shedinja that has Magic Guard
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>>20623007
No.
Physical attacks are stronger and more accurate.
Physical attackers are generally better.
That's why their shat on so much.
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>>20624783
>stone miss
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>>20623792
No.
You're fucking retarded.
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>>20624802
>Hurr durr a few moves aren't accurate, checkmate
Shut up.
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Everything defensive learns Recover.
Everything offensive learns Shell Smash.

Wow, that was easy!
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A decent bp rock move with 100 accuracy. Maybe with added benifit of confusion.

Or a quick attack like move with rock typing.
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>>20623055
Sorry, I meant to specify that Steel special Attacks/Attackers will have more of a reason to be used.

Honestly though even with all the defense coming from those tired of the physical attacker dominance special attackers have quite the many coverage options with rarely, if any, drawbacks in use beyond some frailty.

Mega Slowbro will bring the boosting bulky special attacker to the center stage imo.
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>>20624933
Speedstone
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>>20619076
wow is that a fixed design or something ? It really looks better than what I remember
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>>20625124
Nah, Megaggron is simply perfection. But I'll admit, they could've made him look like anything, and I'd still cherish him regardless.
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