Today I learned that if a Flying type uses roost it loses its flying type and can get hit with earthquake.
Is there any way to use this to your advantage or is this just useless trivia?
That's a thing too? I know that if you use dig and then the opponent uses earthquake you're fucked, but that was the only "special exception" move I could think of.
Do you know any others?
I've seen it being taken advantage by slower mons to hit Skarmory and stallbreaker Talonflame with Earthquake a couple of times. I've also exploited it with Mega Mawile to Focus Punch the shit out of a few Skarmorys that thought they could just Roost for free.
Twister/Hurricane/Thunder can hit pokemon during fly
Earthquake, Magnitude can hit pokemon during dig
Stomp/BodySlam does double damage if minimize is used
Swift/Always hit moves hit during fly/dig
If you're slower, you can hit Rock, Normal, steel and dark type flying pokemon for super effective damage from fighting type moves.
Or poison,electric and fire flying types for super effective on ground type moves.
On the defensive side, you can use it to remove a weakness to rocks, electric or ice for a turn.
I used to do that in Gen 5 with Dragonite to Stall out Tyranitar's Stone Edges. It probably would have worked too if the weather mechanics were the same as Gen 6 since there were no fairies.
Pretty sure that Thunder hits everytime if your opponent is using Fly.
Same goes for in doubles if you have one of your teammates perform Sky Drop. It takes the enemy up in the air on the first turn and that's when you can 100% Thunder them.
These are moves which can hit Pokémon that are in a semi-invulnerable turn. They deal double damage when hitting a semi-invulnerable Pokémon through their own effect (except Toxic, a status move, and Fissure, a one-hit knockout move).
Pokémon that have used Fly, Bounce or Sky Drop, or that are affected by Sky Drop, can be hit by Gust, Smack Down, Sky Uppercut, Thunder, Twister and Hurricane. If a Pokémon using Fly or Bounce is hit by Smack Down, it is returned to the ground and the move is canceled.
Pokémon that have used Dig can be hit by Earthquake, Magnitude and Fissure.
Pokémon that have used Dive can be hit by Surf and Whirlpool.
I've been playing since blue, there are still people on here who have probably started later and play/know more
"Everybody who started after me is a rookie forever!!1!"
I know some of these but since it's so rare to find semi invulnerable moves on NPC's and in competitive, I've never really had the time to notice this.
I knew the Earthquake one because I was frustrated with this one Pokemon continually using dig. Nearly shat myself when "______'s Pokemon fainted"
I love these hidden effects in game, like how using Defense Curl before Rollout makes it deal double damage. It adds some charm to the game.
And I don`t recall any game mentioning me that Sandstorm doubles the spDef of Rock mons.
ITT: The more disgusting side of the ultra casual fanbase.
I haven't seen a single fact that wasn't reveleased at least 6 years ago.
Also, Roost's side effect was discovered a week after DP's launch or so.
I used to use it to my advantage when using a mandibuzz in gen 5 since it isn't that slow at 80 speed and doesn't share a common weakness when it's in the air (ice, rock and electric) and on the ground (fighting and bug)
Sadly in gen 6 it's weak to fairy no matter what and I still see her as being nerfed in gen 6 in spite of the usage increase
For a while, I thought that flying was actually weak to ground type attacks, because my crobat got hit with a supereffective earthquake while using roost. I didn't realize poison was weak to ground until much later.
Crow/Goldbat lose their ice weakness, but aren't immune to ground anymore.
Talonflame also can get hit with an EQ, but it's kind of niche and risky.
most people forget this, and predicting a roost and having something to take advantage of that opposed to a regular damaging move is kind of rare.
>I've been playing Pokemon since gen IV.
>Not really a rookie