Make the FREEZE status great again
2017-04-07 06:17:32 Post No.32268912
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Let's be creative!
The freeze status condition is nothing more than an uncontrollable inconvenience in competitive battling, a gimmick in single player at best. There's nothing "fun" or "strategic" about it, and winning thanks to a lucky freeze always leaves a bad taste.
The other status conditions have real purpose, and their respective types are greatly benefiting from their immunities. It's just another point on the already too long list of "missed opportunities" for Pokemon's problem child: the Ice type.
So I thought we could try to redesign the freeze status! I'll start:
1: being frozen doesn't mean you can't move anymore, so it wouldn't be "OP" if it becomes easier to inflict the status (whether by altering the percentages on the existing ice type moves like ice beam and blizzard, or by adding new moves like ice variants of nuzzle and will-o-wisp).
2. Burn and Paralysis have a unique effect (gradual damage/missing one turn) and influence a stat (atk/speed). What could "freezing/being frozen" do? The possibilities are endless.
I'd focus on the "stamina damaging" aspect of coldness. A freeze could half the sp.att stat, since it needs "energy" to generate special moves/magical powers. And the unique effect of a freeze could be an automatic "pressure" effect, meaning you'll use up 2PP while frozen. It stacks up with the pressure ability (you need 3PP then), which could lead to some PP stalling shenanigans (but that needs to be playtested of course).
3. And while we're at it, let's add some interaction with "hail": hail now adds ANOTHER pressure effect on non-ice-types, meaning it is possible for a pokemon to use up 4PP per turn (hail+being frozen+opponent's ability is pressure)! But that would be very situational. Furthermore, while in hail, it is not possible to cure yourself from a freeze by using or being hit by a fire type attack.
What do you think? Too OP? Or would it be a welcome addition to Ice types and hail teams?
What are your ideas?
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>>32268912
>winning thanks to a lucky freeze always leaves a bad taste
implying
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tl;dr
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>>32268919
RNG is not exactly the most fun part of pokemon. Do you like the freeze status as it is?
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Continuing from where >>32243903 started because good discussion is rare.
Anons gather to discuss and theorize about current lore, new games and current lore in new games with surprising civility.
If Gamefreak is making new regions based on places with high Japanese tourism, we could be getting a Korea game next seeing that Korea gets the largest amount of outbound tourism. For western countries, Canada actually gets the most and could be that 'cold region' some of us are wishing for.
Source: http://www.tourism.jp/en/tourism-database/stats/outbound/
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Whole Korea would be too dark for a main line game, so that would be South Korea only.
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>>32268899
That's pretty much a given.
If we get a Canada region, I could see an area based on Quebec getting heavy ties to Kalos.
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>we back
Nice
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Someone send me a wheedle.
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>>32268774
Put up a Magikarp
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>>32269798
Put up a Magikarp, and tell me your name and message bit on the bottom. I'll breed one now.
Just got Beedrillite so I'm in a good mood.
I'll link this so you can use beedrillite, if you haven't gotten it.
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>>32269846
Ok. Sorry. I'm new to this. Message bit?
Huh...so this is the power of the 3DS...impressive...
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>>32268773
Not quite, it's done more than this in terms of texture, but I don't think the geometry can get any more complex.
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>>32268773
3ds is great
If Nintendo started making digital downloads of DS games they would make bank
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>>32268801
It's absurd they don't already do this. They don't even do GBA games on 3DS VC which is completely retarded.
ITT: Pokemon with obnoxious fanbases
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>>32268722
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>>32268731
Stupid monkeyfag
Whens the next game being announced? Im getting impatient. This board is so meaningless without the hype
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Check CNN
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its over the japs ended pokemon
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>>32268674
May 7th.
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Which waifu has the most annoying fan base, and why is it Whitney's?
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>>32268656
Yeah the anon who ever make a thread for she make me hate her. It's like the undertale fanbase.
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>>32268656
Sabrina
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>>32268756
lusamine also has an annoying fanbase too.
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ITT: Strategies that you planned out in theory and want to try 2017-04-07 05:18:55 Post No.32268624
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ITT: Strategies that you planned out in theory and want to try 2017-04-07 05:18:55 Post No.32268624
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ITT: Strategies that you planned out in theory and want to try
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2017-04-07 05:18:55
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>Mega-Glalie + Alola Golem Jihad Combo
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ALOLA AKBAR
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Boltbeam explosions
Delicious
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>blow the shit up
>"strategy"
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>>32268582
diaper beam lol
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>>32268587
lol
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uuurgh morty we gotta catch em all xD
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Is Mega Tyranitar the most worthless Mega? Nobody likes to use it for some reason despise having better stats than Tyranitar in everything.
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>>32268490
Opportunity cost
The only thing it can do better than regular Tyranitar is a Dragon Dance set, and it keeps you from using another Mega like Metagross.
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it doesn't do anything Tyranitar doesn't already and it doesn't compete with baseline Tyranitar, it competes with every other mega out there for that precious slot and that's where he comes up short
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The most worthless Megas would be Garchomp and Latios, as they're the only ones that are outright worse than their base forms
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The Pheromosa suspect test ends today. Say your goodbyes to this roach.
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>>32268416
Get næ næ'd, dumb bug.
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>>32268416
Mega beedrill came just in time to make a good substitute of this buge
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>>32268416
RIP deoxys buge
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>Mismagius isn't Ghost/Fairy type
Why
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>>32268341
The same for Delphox if you implies the magic apparence
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They didn't want to steal the spotlight from mimikkyu
Gen4 remakes will have mega maggy don't worry
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>>32268395
Megas are dead
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>based on a cursed sarcophagus
>doesn't evolve into a mummy pokemon
What does /vp/ think of Cofagrigus?
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>>32268337
it's great as is. Good stats, not great, memey and situational ability, fun to use, and a cute and cool design.
One of the best things to come out of gen 5
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>>32268337
2spooky4me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCov5hQ4BW4
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>mask pokemon
>not evolving into a vampire
I think I'm gonna sue Gamefreak
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So are they gonna go back to
doing mega evolutions for the gen 4 remakes or will they just focus on exclusive Z moves for sinnoh starters and legendaries?
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>>32268331
z-moves forkantostarters and legendaries of course.
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>>32268331
Who the fuck knows? I'm not sure why you're asking /vp/. As far as the developers' stance on this goes, they said that they would like to do more Megas if they get the chance to. That this time around, they were focusing on Z moves, so no new Megas were introduced.
So who knows. No one knows when that "chance" will come.
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>>32268331
Megas for remakes/sequels to expand on a Pokemon and revitalize interest
Regional Variants for new regions to emphasize the new region's qualities and adapt old Pokemon into it
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will it be a switch or 3ds game?
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Idk and I'm not buying them, haven't bought any game after the DS ones. That'll teach them to make shit consoles. Gen 5 is the last gen in my book.
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>>32268179
Why are you here then
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>>32268181
>Implying I have to discuss about post gen 5 stuff here
Are you retarded anon?