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last Junpei: >>88728031

-LATEST NEWS-
>PQ gets Marie and Nanako as navigators on December 16th. Margaret, Elizabeth and Theodore and all DLC Personas are out now.
>Persona Super Live 2015 concert announced, site implies it's P5 related
>Midsummer Knight's Dream BD releases March 11th, 2015, Falling Down in theaters Spring 2015
>P4U2 OST releases December 17th
>P4U2 gets arcade update in January, adds shadow burst and console characters
>P4U2 version of Mad Catz TE2 stick open for pre-order

-GUIDES-
>General Persona Guide
http://pastebin.com/QPB3QuNm
>Persona 1 Guide
http://persona1.wikidot.com/start
>Persona Q guide
http://pastebin.com/kfRmSLbE

-ULTIMAX LINKS-
>Starter websites to learn:
http://youtu.be/hMYA_0-cDng [Embed]
http://www.dustloop.com/wiki/index.php?title=Persona_4:_Arena_Ultimax
http://www.dustloop.com/forums/index.php?/forum/193-p4arena-character-discussion/

-DOWNLOADS-
>Art, Guides, Music and more (Persona only, contains P4U/P4U2 story transcripts and sprite/texture/script rips)
http://pastebin.com/4e3U9j2S
>Artbook, soundtrack, manga, and other downloads (Persona and SMT)
http://pastebin.com/fgVp423S
>P4 Dengeki Comic Anthology
http://www.mediafire.com/?4kjjaf0jtw2jyj3
>Persona/SMT image collection
http://www.mediafire.com/?9j3us2v34coua

-MANGA SCANS-
http://personascans.tumblr.com/
http://www.mediafire.com/personascans#unst48ukbu457

-TRANSLATED MANGA SCANS-
http://pastebin.com/CX8q1FLp

-P4U/P4U2 player list IMAGE/SOUND/MOVIE/PALETTE RIP/NEW MUSIC TRACKS-
http://pastebin.com/gpCHdCDE
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First for no spoilers please.
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Best VR Attendant
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>>88783128
Not true.
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>>88783009
>Nanako as navigator

I don't understand
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Bored.
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>>88783072
Fuck you

>wanted Zen to be the one who kills off Clockwork God
>he and two other party members die
>right after that Yukiko finishes him off
>with a regular attack
god fucking damn it, that killed the mood
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>>88783163
She talks instead of Rise or Fuuka. She doesn't have abilities.
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Cowardfag from 2 threads ago. I knew it was coming but I still screamed like a bitch.
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>>88783221
I mean I get the concept its just a little bizarre
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For the best OP image ever made.

Not you OP
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>>88783224
I told you about them dolls. I warned yo.
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>>88783252
Why? She was a navigator in Arena and Ultimax too.
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>>88783276
Good thing I was on my bed, I dropped the 3ds.
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>>88783310
Oh I only played the stories of those
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>>88783072
Ai Ebihara is the killer
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>>88783224
How is that even scary?
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>>88783438
It pops up and goes "boo." That's enough for people like Chie and Rei.
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>>88783169
two different anime series for P4, soon to be 5 movies for P3, and yet still the only good Persona AMV is the Azumanga Dioh redrawn with persona characters
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>>88783438
Its first appearance catches you off guard and it appears from the bottom of the screen and is really close. It also has a spooky laugh.
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Reminder that this shit exists
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tsswm9SSUTI
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>>88783546
genuinely pretty cool

dangan is all right, its their despairfags that are annoying as fuck
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>>88783765
i agree Hope is far superior
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>>88783765
Is it worth playing the first one, even if I know who the killer is?
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>>88784054
yeah, i'd say it is. each of the individual cases before the finale are pretty strong I'd say. I mean 70% of the characters are as thin as cardboard, but it's still a great game

And there are plenty of storyline twists besides who is the killer
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>>88783009
I know I'll be first in line to buy Marie on Tuesday.
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>>88784413
What are you going to buy Marie?
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>>88784507
Poetry lessons, I hope.
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>>88784507
Some new stockings, of course.
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>>88784678
I dont think you can take lessons for poetry
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>>88784278
>>88784278
I guess im not actually sure if I know who the killer is, but I saw a picture of her? out of the corner of my eye implying it.
I got spoiled on Clannad like that too, and honestly it made it way worse convincing myself I had misread the spoiler, only to slowly realize that I hadn't and shit was going to happen.
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>>88765578
why do you think margaret misses liz so much.
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>>88784940
you may THINK you know everything

theres more to the story than what you're saying
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>Liz says the Reaper is too strong for her
What is this bullshit. I mean, he is raping me right now, but I refuse to believe it's stronger than she is. She is just joking, right?
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>>88785232
yes she is
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I just beat Margaret in PQ and both MCs got their ultimate personas. How do I get everyone else theirs, though? Margaret said they could, but not how.
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>>88785434
Get them to level 55. If they are already on/past that level, just level them up.
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>>88785232
reaper shows up as a regular enemy in the dungeon you meet her in.
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>>88785494
Thanks. Do Shinji and Koromaru get ultimate skills like everyone else, or are they permanently stuck with 3 main skills?
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>>88785610
They get special, glowing versions of their personas and skills.
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For Kindness
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>>88783224

They're pretty spooky early on, then they just become nuisances.
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>>88785232
>>88783215 here. Naoto just finished off the reaper with a regular attack when most of the party was dead. Fuck everything.
Will Liz throw a bitchfit if I equip Omnipotent Orb for the last battle with her?
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I dont care if its not what we expected nothing gona stop meeeeeeeeeee
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>>88785902
Fukkas arena hair is way more qt than her P3 hair.
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>>88786016
I like Both
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>>88786057
It grew on me over time.

The shoulder-sided ponytail suits her perfectly
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What's Protag has the best design / is the coolest in the series?, What MC's Persona has the best design?, Which are your favorites all around?

My top five for each:

MCs
>Potter-kun
>Minako the-not-canon
>Yu
>Tatsuya
>Maya

Personas:
>Tanathos
>Apollo
>Izanagi / Izanagi-no-Okami
>Maia
>Vulcanus

Overall Tatsuya and Apollo are my favorites.
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>>88786194
man tasu persona is the coolest

also whats p1 dude persona name ?
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>>88786304
Ultimate is Osiris or somethin'
Initial I have no idea.
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>>88786373
but that not osaris n the picture
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>>88786194
I like Aigis and Athena
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>>88786494
Guess she counts since The Answer is a thing
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>>88786194
I liked MC and Orpheus
Piercy was cool too
The Moon has a lot of well designed personas, Chernobog and Seth are good examples
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>>88786194
Maia and Athena are the only good looking protag personas, and Aigis was the only good protag.

Tatsuya was only good in EP, and Maya was only good in IS.
Piercy is inoffensively boring.
MC was just boring.
and Yu is offensively way too perfect and pandered to. Textbook shitty harem protag.

Ill never understand why people cling to the protags, but I want to blame Japan somehow.
>muh self inserts
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Yukari a best
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>>88786851
>Ill never understand why people cling to the protags
Geez, anon, i don't know
Maybe because they were made to project yourself onto them so you could immerse yourself better into the story
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>>88787015
Anon, that's crazy talk.
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>>88786851
I think Tatsuya was good in IS too, that his design and dialogue options give way for your intuition and guess what he's like, but I get your point.

Maya on the other hand was the result of poor decision-making. If she already had a personality you can't simply strip it away, it makes little sense and feels forced and unnatural.
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>>88787015
Not him but I insert better when the dude I control has a personality.

Sure, give me dialogue choices, I love 'em, but there's no reason why you can't both have an MC with a personality and certain control over how he interacts with other characters and the story.
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Hey Junpei can you make me a sandwich?
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>>88787394
>butler ken
>wearing shorts
K
E
K
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>>88787015
bad wording, I know why its just I dont understand why people like that.
Im with this guy >>88787381

Self inserting in video games is great, but only if its a custom character with choices to make, or if its a well thought out character I can identify with.

the silent bland nobody doesnt do anything for me.

>>88787208
Ill give Tatsuya credit for being important to the plot, but not too central too it. The backstory with him and Maya and the other shrine kids was great.
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>>88787394
One of your unfunny fresh prince edits made it to the top of /r/megaten instead of the much better edit that turned FeMC into Lisa
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>>88784507
A muzzle
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>first extra boss
>they spend the entire fight alternating between getting put to sleep by sleeper punch and getting smacked by zionga and I pretty much get a free Clotho.
>mfw

Why is Chie so based in this game?
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>>88787787
Sorry, Lisa edit's much better. Now how the hell would you know what's on /r/megaten?
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>>88787787
Is it a suprise? All the top rated content on r/megaten are just regurgitated persona maymays coming from here or deviant art

look for yourself
http://www.reddit.com/r/Megaten/top/?sort=top&t=all
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>>88787787
fucking nice digits man
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>>88788192
Best girl
I got Chie with Rakshasa. The extra damage thing + the 2 hit attack absolutely decimates shadows
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>>88788367
arigatou

>>88788195
Because one day one of my posts is going to get on there, and upvoting it will feel like bliss. probably
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For positive thinking

>>88786194
Yu and Apollo
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>>88788640
Best P4 girl

I don't have a 3DS for PQ
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Chiefags are the worst. Enjoy your meat-obsessed bitch.
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>>88789402
[waifu]fags are the worst. Enjoy you [subject]-obsessed [insult].

I love /pg/ madlibs.
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>>88789402
I will enjoy her, and there is nothing you can do to stop me
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>>88789402
Chie isnt my waifu.
Chie is still an absolute cutie
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>>88789402
Thanks, I most definitely will
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It's been a while since I saw pizzacrust-kun post here I miss him
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When will you guys play Strange Journey?
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>>88790263
Once I get 3DS
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>>88790263
When it has dating sim aspects
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>>88790263
I already beat it.
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>>88788227

That's just about every fandom related subreddit ever. It's a mix of "hey check out this cosplay i did", "check out this hastily drawn piece of fanart", "hey guys epik meme lelelelel." I'm not even one to just categorically trash everything on that place (like mostly everywhere there are gems if you know where to look) but fandom subreddits are generally just terrible and should be avoided.
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>>88790263
I'm doing it right now
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>>88790402
It has.

Anthony's request quest.
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>>88787645
The kind I like the most is the one that has a great, worked out personality but also several relevant (and many small) decisions that get you in that "What would I do in his place dude?" Kind of mindser
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>>88790650
No shrine date, no deal.
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>>88790992
Aren't japs Buddhists?
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>>88791078
They're more atheistic or agnostic, but yes, Buddhism is part of their culture
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>>88791078
Shintoism is also big there.
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>>88791078
Shinto mostly I think, which is a Japan native thing. Buddhism probably plays a part too.

also God isnt a Christian only thing
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>>88791247
What a fucking slut
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>>88791247
That's not how it goes, rise
What a bimbo
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>>88789402
Oh, I'll have her enjoy MY meat ;^)
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>>88791537
Japan in charge of Christianity.
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I think it's naive to assume that he was a virgin before coming to Inaba. He also has the manliest features out of all the Persona protagonists.
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>>88791890
I think she might be referencing evolution in the first line
If not what the hell does Japan think about Christianity
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>>88791919
Virgin boys are the best, and all protags are the best so thus all protags are virgins.
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>>88791962
God is bad and Lucifer did nothing wrong. That's what they think.
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>>88791286
You wanna take this outside?

>>88791890
Its the sentiment that counts anyway.
and also the reference to her arcana

>>88791962
ask Anno
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>>88791919
But japs don't like manly features.
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>>88792086
only the faggots in charge of their fashion. If an Asian spent all his time in /fa/ then they'd probably start assuming that all westerners are full blown gaysexuals.
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>>88792340
Is /fa/ super metrosexual or something?

also theres no way the epilogue look to Yosuke and Teddie wasnt unintentional regardless.
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Anyone know the name of the music that plays when you max a social link in P3?

It's driving me nuts that i can't find it.
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>Goho-M
>Go home
Am I retarded for realizing this just now?
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>>88792575
The Path is Open
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>>88792712
Thanks man.
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>>88792559
My brother goes to /fa/ and apparently it's just like /v/ but with clothes. I can understand women giving each other shit for their clothes or their sense of style, but it's extremely gay when men start doing it to each other.
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>>88792687
Wait till you realize what Goba-K is.
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In the meat of the first dungeon, past most of the tutorial stuff. Persona Q newbie here. I don't care, I'm still loving it.
>Dat opening song
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>>88792865
>Cuntlord
fuck off. I wish I had never told you
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>>88793065
Careful, you might cut yourself if you keep on like that.
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>>88791078
>Shinto is the largest religion in Japan, practiced by nearly 80% of the population, yet only a small percentage of these identify themselves as "Shintoists" in surveys.[7][11] This is due to the fact that "Shinto" has different meanings in Japan: most of the Japanese attend Shinto shrines and beseech kami without belonging to an institutional "Shinto" religion,[12] and since there are no formal rituals to become a member of folk "Shinto", "Shinto membership" is often estimated counting those who join organised Shinto sects.
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Is there a way to put myself in a coma until P5 arrives?
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>>88793645
Yes, there's drugs for that if you're rich
Or you can get in an accident of some sort
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>>88793645
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>>88793910
that's a pretty long neck
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>>88793989
Still not as bad as her hands earlier on, so whatever.
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>>88792046
No, I like Lover's girls, but Rise a shit
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>>88794073
Rise has a better attitude than Yukari
That, and she's more useful in battle
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I was going for Chie but hey, their pretty much the canon ship right? (Fuck Marie)
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>>88794221
I like girls with Daddy issues

Rise comes on too strong and is therefore a shit

Lisa a qt
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>>88794073
Rise > Yukari = Lisa

Ucaree is the best character in 3.
Risa is the best character in IS.
Rise is the best character in anything ever

The obligatory P5 lovers has got a lot to live up too
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>>88794337
>I like girls with Daddy issues
Why
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>>88794316
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>>88794372
All lover girls are shit
But Rise has a few redeeming qualities
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I can't wait for the new lovers arcana. I bet _he's a slut
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>>88794471
>>88794316
Shes so imperfectly perfect.
Shes too perfect for P4
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>>88794628
Nope. Can't wait to have Marie as my navigator.
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>>88794926
I will never understand Masochists
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>>88794926
No one cares
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>>88794926
Im so indifferent to Marie
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>>88794970
She lashes out, and she's tender on the inside. Those who could see through to love her would reap rewards.
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>>88795149
I too love shitty tsunderes
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>>88795149
And have to endure her bitchness, no thanks.
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>>88795324
I love decent tsunderes.
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>>88795418
Bitchiness wears thin with love, anon.
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Persona 4 have some good boys
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>>88796051
P4 has overall more good boys, but P3 has the best boy.

P3 has overall more good girls, but P4 has the best girl.
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>>88796354
>P4 has best girl
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For Perfect Girl!

Also I'm at the Inaba Pride Parade is that the last labyrinth or is there one more?
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Has anybody been using the Margaret navigator voice? Does she make lots of dumb jokes?
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So what's the verdict on Q?


I'm thinking of grabbing it or Omega Ruby today, along with Bayonetta 2 or Donkey kong Tropical Freeze
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>You will never have a 5'3" fig of Aigis
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>>88796584
I...did not realize she might be doing that. I was thinking about getting her, but her voice is so bad. The stupid jokes though
Also the 3DS theme is out already, it's pretty good
>>88796728
Best Persona game.
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>>88796767
>tfw you do
>tfw your dick is forever mangled
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>>88796809
Well, I've got enough money already on my account right now for 2 navigators, and I'm sure as fuck not getting Theo. I might end up taking the bullet and getting Margaret anyway, if no one else has yet.
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at which rank did girls get jealous in P3? rank 6?
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Does the marriage affect anything in PQ?

Is everyone playing the undub?
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>>88797292
Nope

Nope
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>>88794393
Because they are submissive in the sack, why else?
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>>88797292
>Does the marriage
It literally is never mentioned again, and after you beat the boss you can redo as many times as you want.

>undub
No, I'm not that much of a weeaboo.
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>>88790992
>not marrying rise on the spot
what a faggot
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>>88797519
Dude, all persona girls are submissive
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>>88797292
It's just stupid fanservice.
You get some nice scenes with certain character combinations, but nothing that affects the game.
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>>88797639
I said in the sack. The P4 girls are all fucking doormats
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>>88797720
But still, is dealing with daddy issues really worth it?
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>>88797794
ya
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>>88797519
>submissive in the sack
>chopping your dick off at slightest hint of infidelity

not worth. go for fuuka or yukiko if you want that
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>>88796354
>P4 has overall more good boys,

Wow that statement is so wrong. Get better taste in men.
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>>88798147
But it has best boy, Naoto.
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I don't visit this general often but could you please answer a question for me?
Well, I like P2 and P3 but P4 is not really my cup of tea. Is Arena or Arena Ultimax worth it? How is PQ?
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>>88798496
Arena and Ultimax are only worth it if you like fighting games, apart from that the story is shit so don't bother.

PQ is very fun, story is basically a throwaway, but the combat and fan service interactions between the P3/P4 cast are nice to see. It's worth it to play even just one side, so P3 for you.
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>>88798496
PQ is definitely worth it
Don't get arena if you don't like fighting games
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Are the other EO:s just like PQ aside from the fan service?
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>want to help Yuko with her future
>want to be Loyal to Fuuka
>can't do both

Fuck you ATLUS
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>>88798496
>Arena or Arena Ultimax worth it?
No. Unless you really like fighting games I don't see why you'd get it. The story is heavily P3/P4 but the storymode isn't considered that great.

PQ has better reception, it's a first person dungeon crawler and the gameplay is good. The story is alright. Most character interactions are fanservice, but it's entertaining fanservice.
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>>88798285
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>>88798496
I would suggest getting Arena and Ultimax if you like fighting games. If you are in it for the story then watch the videoes on youtube.

PQ is pretty fun. It's good that you played P3/4 elsewise it would be dumb to play it without knowing any of the characters or the story.
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>>88796728
>So what's the verdict on Q?
GOTY (or at least close to it)
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>>88796541
>Also I'm at the Inaba Pride Parade is that the last labyrinth or is there one more?
5th dungeon is the Clock Tower
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>>88799235
Okay good thank you!
I don't want this game to end but it has to sometime.
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>>88794316
>their pretty much the canon ship right?

Hah hah no. Rise was just some annoying brat with a crush.
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>>88795418
>>88795324

The worst thing Marie is does is yell and lash out when she's emotionally vulnerable because unlike the other girls she actually has a legitimate problem.

And unlike the others she never pushes you off a goddamn mountain or beats on you because THEY walked into the wrong bath
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>>88794316
The only cannon relationship in Persona is Naoto's revolver x Aigis' literal hand cannon.
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>>88799698
You've doubled my love for Marie and doubled my resolve to buy her DLC.

captcha: japarty theological
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>>88797794
It's not that hard depending on the girl.

>>88798041
>not wanting a yandere gf
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>>88799698
>because unlike the other girls she actually has a legitimate problem.
Okay, you have your tastes, opinions, etc. I don't even really hate Marie, but this is the point where we know the conversation has broken down.
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>>88800245
hate fuck marie into submission could be nice.
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>>88799698
>or beats on you because THEY walked into the wrong bath
You have no idea how much the bath scene pisses me off. It's the most retarded thing in the universe.
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>>88800419
>but this is the point where we know the conversation has broken down.

yes because

>WAAAA I DON'T WANT TO RUN MY INN! oh wait yes I do.

Is a huge issue when murders are afoot.

A lot of the characters in the game have crappy arcs, it's not just the girls
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>>88800408
>yandere
it's the worst. i feel like i've aged 10 years dealing with one.
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I miss Chihibro
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>>88800921
you take that shit back about sweet yukiko chan. it's not her life to solve murders.
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>>88800921
Wow, it's like they're teens with normal teen problems
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>>88800929
Gets my rocks off erry time
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I fucking cant get used to this chie voice actor.
Sounds like the most stereotypical horrible anime potrayal of a 5 year old.
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>>88800408
>yandere gf
I might fetishize them, but I would never want to date one for real. A little bedroom roleplay would be fine for me.

>>88800921
>WAAAA I DON'T WANT TO RUN MY INN! oh wait yes I do.
That annoyed me so much. I get that it was different because she decided to run the inn on her own terms and not because of others wanting her to, but something about it just never felt right to me, even though Yukiko's one of my favorite characters.
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>>88800908
Id rather lose my left pinky than lose the anime bathhouse/hotspring scene/mishap
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>>88801141
I hated it at first but I like hearing her shout in battle. She reminds me of Peppermint Patty now.
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>>88801005
Good riddance he's gone.
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>>88801126
try it irl and see how far it gets you. bitch be crazy
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loli yukiko is fine too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vG411_Ai134
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>>88801005
me too
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>>88801653
>Middle school
>loli
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>>88801653
14-15 isn't loli.
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>>88801783
deal with it
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updated my rankings after playing p3p again

Augustus Tier:
Elizabeth

Caesar-issa Tier:
Mitsuru
Fe-MC incest only

Porphyrogenita Tier:
Rise
Fuuka
Saori
Margaret


Senate Tier:
Chie
Naoto
Yukiko Amagi
Sayoko Uehara
Rio
Yuko


Patrician Tier:
Kanji
Noriko Kashiwagi
Ms. Toriumi
Ai Ebihara


Plebian Citizen Tier:
Bebe
Nanako (timeskip)
Maiko (timeskip)
Chihiro

Libertus Tier:
Yumi Ozawa
Emiri


Mercenary Barbarian Tier:
Mrs. Terauchi
Mayumi Yamano
Eri Minami
Ayane


Slave Tier:
Yukari Takeba

Furniture Tier:
Aigis
Hanako Ohtani


Literally who tier:
Marie
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>>88801036
But don't you see that real teen problems aren't real problems like amnesia, which is totally real and not an overused uninteresting cliche?
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>>88801036
>Wow, it's like they're teens with normal teen problems

Wow, it's like that shit's boring.
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>>88802130
How is amnesia of all things interesting?
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>>88802235
Pretty sure he's being sarcastic about that.
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>>88801653
I wish Chie had shown up at some point
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>>88802235

when it gives the character urgency and emotional weight.


the inn stuff is resolved faster than it's brought up. There isn't even any confrontation with her parents about it.
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>>88802235
A person with amnesia is forced to develop a personality once again.
It can be interesting if they grow a very different personality than they used to have and then get the memories of how they where before.
Too bad that shit has been done over 2000 times in anime alone and more than half where shit attempts.
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>>88802130
This anon's got it.
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>>88801494
I have, the sex was great. Although the "daddy issues" spectrum can go both ways and you just get some bitch who is weird as fuck and ends up doing armpit stepdad fetish porn.
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>>88802130
P4 and P1 teens minus Maki and probably Reiji and Nanjo had normal teen problems.

P2-3 kids were a different league of teen problems. Though it's obvious it all boils down to one thing: daddy problems.
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>>88802130
Well excuse them for not being gods with amnesia
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>>88802579
>armpit stepdad fetish porn
what the fuck
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>>88802691
Girl had major daddy issues, and not the good kind.
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>>88783546
Holy shit, this is fucking amazing.
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>>88802659

they're not even interesting teenagers. they're like Japanese saved by the bell.

they don't have to be amnesiac minor deities but they need to be something.
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>>88802659
Anon, the point is we're here for a story, and if a chunk of the story is about Anonette's insecurity issues and how Player 1-Anon can help her through that by going on a date I guess and saying the supposed right thing instead of the obviously wrong thing well then that shit's boring.

Personafags don't like this shit because character development. They like it because it replaces the life they don't have.
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so here's a question.

WHY didn't they just show Dojima TV world?

I mean yeah he might not believe them if they tell him but shove your head in the screen and that will open up a dialogue
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>>88802828
My, she sounds charming.
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>>88803174
Because it's dangerous?
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>>88803351
Not if they are right next to him and only show him and not push him
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i played p3 and p4 on easy and im about to start SMT1 in honor of my hero Mitsuo Kubo

how far do you think i will get?
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>>88803174
Dojima's the sort of dumbass to take that sort of information to the feds. It's already bad enough that the government is well aware of persona users and shadows, we don't need them getting into the collective unconsciousness.
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>>88803174
Because that would make too much sense and require P4 to have a decent plot
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>>88803351
Let's be serious, it's not dangerous with them at all.

>>88803174
>I mean yeah he might not believe them
Dojima knows what's up.
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>>88803479

yeah but the kids don't know that. They're not trying to protect the TV world. Fuck they're barely trying to solve the murder mystery
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>>88802235
Its not.
source: Golden Time sucked, Ghost Banri is Yosuke tier, and best girl didnt even win
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>>88803174
Because that would make too much sense
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>>88803351

Well then, Let's get dangerous.
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>>88803553
He says that now, but the moment he sees a head go into the TV, he's alerting the Japanese FBI.

>>88803554
You're right, that would be the last thing on their mind. I can imagine Philemon sighing in huge relief when no one decided to demonstrate the TV thing to Dojima. What a bad batch of test humans, Phil.
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>>88803554
>they're barely trying to solve the murder mystery
The whole TV thing is just their equivalent of hanging out after school because there's fuck all to do in Inaba. Like hell they're getting the police on their turf.
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>>88803775
>He says that now, but the moment he sees a head go into the TV, he's alerting the Japanese FBI.
Are you going to back up your statement, or...?
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Anyone here watch trinity souls? And if you did, was it any good?
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>>88803889
Look Dojima is the sort of guy that would not handle supernatural shit well. He'll either go complete denial mode or when he finally does accept it, he's going to get bigger back up.
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>>88803980
I finished it and I thought it was okay. Confusing as fuck and barely had any action at all, but it was okay. I thought it got better with each episode.
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>>88804032
>Dojima is the sort of guy that would not handle supernatural shit well
Based on?
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>>88804032
>Look Dojima is the sort of guy that would not handle supernatural shit well. He'll either go complete denial mode or when he finally does accept it, he's going to get bigger back up.
...keep spewing your headcanon?
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>>88804032

and that's when HQ sends in their specialist
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>>88804117
>>88804173

My ass, Anon, my ass. Rub it three times and an oracle comes out of it.
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Has anyone here ever tried to come up with their own persona characters? Any general ideas?

I just marathonned through P3 and P4 for the first time a month ago and am loving the series. So...I've been doing this.
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>>88803980
This is all I know about Trinity Souls. I'm not sure what to think about it.
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>>88804117
Yu comes clean to Dojima at the police station during questioning (presumably?) and Dojima denies it, which isn't surprising, but he turns around later when he asks Yu to save Nanako.
On the second-to-last day, Dojima mentions the TV world and personas, so he is aware of them, but he dismisses them -- even though with Nanako's retrieval there isn't a reason to say that Yu's explanation for how he's been saving people was wrong.

>>88804379
No I don't write fanfiction.
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>>88804257
"Mr. Dojima, can I apply the penal code to shadows?"
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>>88804379
>Has anyone here ever tried to come up with their own persona characters? Any general ideas?
I'm creating my own characters for a Persona fangame I'm planning to make in the future.
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Dojima DLC when?
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>>88804451
Where'd my picture go?
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>>88804379
>tried to come up with their own persona characters
Deviantart as fuck. The most I've done is fucked around with tarot cards, which is a thing I've been interested in forever. I think I'm the Moon arcana, which is fine. It's got some pretty sweet personas in it.
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mc + zen is a big no-no
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxrPD0n4tGA
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>>88804478
So he thought he was lying, but if he had showed him then he would have kept it in secret
You can't just claim he'd go against his own words without backing it up
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>>88786304
Vishnu.

His P1/DS1 design is great. I wish the series used it more.
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>>88804619
Those fucking personas are so awful, holy shit who designed them?

>>88804754
Is Vishnu Piercy's official ultimate? I thought that was Amon-Ra.
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>>88804753
Well shit, I've got to step my game up and finish things up here.
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>>88804753
is this some kind of bait?
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>>88804478
It's differentfrom fanfiction. You're only taking base concepts, you're not filtering already-established characters through your own creative input.
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>>88804835
>Those fucking personas are so awful
Abel is literally Proto-Izanagi and Diana is modified Hermes
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>>88804478
>Yu comes clean to Dojima at the police station during questioning (presumably?) and Dojima denies it,

There's a difference between TELLING something outlandish and SHOWING it.

Of course he won't believe it if it's just words you need proof of that shit. Grab a TV from the break room and shove your damn hand in the screen.
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>>88803980
I watched all of it and liked it. I hope it comes out on BD someday.
I watched the ainex fansubs and I heard the official subs by NISA make some stupid translations so don't use those.
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>>88804835
Gukyo's kinda cool, and Abel's alright. Other than that, I don't like them.
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>>88804478
He doesn't really show Dojima though.
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>>88804734
Fuck of Rei, I'm gonna marry your negro husbando and like it.
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>>88804743
I'm not that guy, I'm just saying that he doesn't deal with supernatural shit well. I'd say he's the kind of guy to just ignore it unless it was really shoved in his face.

>>88804998
Yeah there is. But by the end of the game he concedes that the case would make sense if Yu's confession was true, but is more willing to dismiss it all as something unexplainable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=WQ02SPiiWDk#t=1283
This is the scene I'm thinking about.
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>>88804042
>>88804619
>>88805132
all right, cool, I think I'll watch it when the P5 wait becomes too intolerable then
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>>88804619
>Nebuchadnezzar
Now that's an interesting guy to have for a Persona.

>>88804835
Amon-Ra's the one that his true self gives him, but if I had to make a comparison, it would sort of be like the Vulcanus Prime to Piercy's Seimen Kongou. In this analogy, Vishnu would be like Apollo, except whereas Apollo requires the Eagle Mask, Vishnu requires the Avatara.

Vishnu's the one that appears alongside him in all official art and is the strongest Emperor Persona, so most fans consider it his true ultimate.
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>>88805416
>I'd say he's the kind of guy to just ignore it unless it was really shoved in his face.

so shove it in his face.

Take him to the room the newslady was killed in. Boom all the evidence. Mystery over in like a weekend
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>>88805715
I never bothered to get Vishnu considering how shit he was for the hard work you had to put for it.

I suppose your reasoning makes sense though, I do recall seeing Vishnu a lot in the official art, especially on the cover of the original game.

>>88805731
Do you think he'd call his senpai for help? I like to think that Baofu was that senpai.
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>>88805731
>Mystery over in like a weekend
I'd say the even if Dojima accepted that supernatural circumstances were the reason behind the case, and that Adachi was the one to do it, he'd still have to explain this all to the rest of the police station and later the court.

I mean I guess you could get someone on the IT to shove their hand in in front of the rest of the police as well and then get interrogated to hell and back. To absolutely confirm the IT's testimony would require going into the TV as well. Unless Adachi gets beaten up by the power of friendship and bonds, he doesn't confess, which means the thing has to be dealt with purely through beaurocracy. And I guess you have someone put themselves into a TV before the court. It all sounds like a bit of a drag.

The IT only remember the Yamano thing in December anyway, and Dojima's out of commission by then.
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>>88806394
>The IT only remember the Yamano thing in December anyway, and Dojima's out of commission by then.

They are the worst detectives ever. They really should have been coming the whole damn world for clues

Instead what we got was

>Oh ___ is exhausted let's get out of here for now. AND NEVER COME BACK!
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>>88806607
Well what do you expect from backwater town detectives? They probably make their revenue in speeding tickets.
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>>88806732

you know that also something that bugs me.

With all the killings and kidnappings you'd think the town would be a bit more a buzz. Inaba is a small ass burg. This shit should have been a bigger deal.

They could have had the npcs grow colder and more distant as the year went on to really show how this shit was affecting them
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>>88806607
>They are the worst detectives ever.
Yeah they're pretty bad.

Though they're working the whole time on the assumption that the kidnapper is the killer so they only ever bother to ask the kidnapees about the kidnapping. Not asking Yukiko about Yamano was a huge mistake when everyone knew she was staying at the inn.

Though I guess if the IT ever made any headway it'd blow the story up.

>>88806923
They kind of do this, but the angle is more that Inaba gets really excited about whatever's happening at the present moment and forgets about everything else. By December everyone's forgotten about the murders because they didn't actually care, they just rode off the media high. I'm not sure the kidnappings were every publically announced as such (just unexplained absences). Something about the petty nature of man.
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>>88807178
>Though they're working the whole time on the assumption that the kidnapper is the killer so they only ever bother to ask the kidnapees about the kidnapping.

well there's that but cops also check out the crime scene too. The culprit could have left any number of clues behind for all they knew.

Fuck Adachi could have dropped his wallet by Rise's pole stage and they'd have missed it
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>>88807342
>Adachi could have dropped his wallet by Rise's pole stage
No he couldn't.

Because Adachi didn't push Rise into the television.

Seriously though the best they're going to get accidentally dropped in there would have been a chloroform rag.

What I'd want to know is how Namatame got access to chloroform. Can you just buy it or something in Japan?
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>>88807509
>What I'd want to know is how Namatame got access to chloroform.

>he has seriously never downloaded a guide on making chloroform from /b/
newfigs do u even 4chen
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>>88807509

well Nametame then. Not the point. They where lazy
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>>88807342
>Fuck Adachi could have dropped his wallet by Rise's pole stage and they'd have missed it

But Adachi wasn't the kidnapper.
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>>88807178
I think the town's reaction was spot on. People only care as long as the media spotlight lasts.
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>>88807586
>Not the point. They where lazy
Right.

But don't they also fight bosses in that room? That's going to mess shit up.

You're right that they didn't bother to check the scene when they should've and that they're shitty detectives, but I doubt it would've helped anyway.
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I think the larger problem is that for the most part the only people who got tossed into the TV where people who joined your party.

There needed to be more... "failures" for want of a better term. People the IT couldn't save. Just a few NPC people here and there to hike up the stakes.

Nametame was shoving people based on TV appearances and well a lot of people appear on TV, even locally
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>>88807765
>You're right that they didn't bother to check the scene
You know you can go back there, fight a miniboss and find an item, right?
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>>88792559
>Is /fa/ super metrosexual
m-maybe
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>>88807765
>but I doubt it would've helped anyway.

No but the act of doing it would make them look less retarded.

Just have the party split and go stand in spots staring at the wall for you to talk too. They give their own colorful takes on what transpired and then you leave

this shit ain't hard
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This shit wouldn't have flied in Sumaru City.
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>>88807868
>There needed to be more... "failures" for want of a better term. People the IT couldn't save. Just a few NPC people here and there to hike up the stakes.
But then there wouldn't be a reason for Namatame to keep "saving" people.

>Nametame was shoving people based on TV appearances
No, he was shoving them based on the Midnight Channel appearances.

Did you even play the game mate
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>>88807765
>>88807948
Wait which room are you talking about?>>88807994
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>>88807868
Mitsuo

Also he was shoving people in based on the midnight channel. The midnight channel is operated by whatever/whoever is the biggest talk of the town at the time, what people most want to see or know about. It just so happens that that's always going to be the same thing as the biggest news story.

>>88807948
Yeah. But they never say they do that to check the crime scene for clues. Rise/Teddie will just say 'there's a powerful shadow, go get rid of it! why is it there?' so they go to kill the shadow.

>>88808153
The boss room of each dungeon

>>88807994
>give their own colorful takes on what transpired
GEE IT LOOKS LIKE RISE-CHAN WAS THROWN INSIDE A TELEVISION!
I get what you mean though. It would have been nice to see at least once.
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>>88808045
>But then there wouldn't be a reason for Namatame to keep "saving" people.

See that's a problem in and of itself.

Adachi tells Nametame to save people by tossing them into the TV.

He does so thinking he's helping but the whole thing revolves around Adachi knowing you'll turn around and save them.

First couple of times he has no reason to think this and as time goes on he has less reason to want you too.
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>>88808190
>Mitsuo

too little too late.

They should have peppered losses throughout. Maybe while we're too busy saving Kanji someone else gets killed.
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>>88808310
>First couple of times he has no reason to think this
He wasn't counting on anyone saving the victims, he was counting on them dying and driving Namatame insane.

>and as time goes on he has less reason to want you too.
What?
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>>88808538
>What?

Adachi has no reason for you to want to save people. He tosses them in so you can pull them out?
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>>88808645
Causing an endless cycle, yes.
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>>88808310
>First couple of times he has no reason to think this and as time goes on he has less reason to want you too.
What do you mean?

Namatame deludes himself into thinking the TV is safe because he sees Yukiko on it looking pretty in her kimono and wants to think he can help someone somehow. He's still reeling with the loss of Mayumi and is trying to stop others from getting murdered even before he starts shoving them in the television (ie, Saki). Adachi knows this and nudges Namatame to help out by putting them in the television, basically doing his work for him without any risk to himself.

Since Yukiko comes back safe Namatame believes that he's right and the TV is safe, so he keeps doing it.

>Adachi has no reason for you to want to save people
It's funny, it's low-risk compared to shoving people in himself, and he's bored. He didn't know the IT would save the first person so he was probably just expecting for Namatame to do it and fall even deeper into a hilarious despair. But he was fine with the IT becoming a ragtag rescue group as well and was willing to just stand by and watch them as entertainment instead. That's even more fulfilling than just getting a one-off on Namatame.
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>>88808869
>Since Yukiko comes back safe Namatame believes that he's right and the TV is safe, so he keeps doing it.

right. and all it takes is one fuck up or botched rescue on your end and the whole game comes crashing apart.
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>>88809009
Yeah this. Once one of Namatame's "rescues" dies, he'll stop pushing them into the TV and probably do something else.
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>>88808190
There never really is a "crime scene." No one even knew where people were being kidnapped until Naoto joins. As for inside the TV. I guess you wanted the dungeons to have more of an adventure game segment to look for clues that weren't there in the original?
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>>88809372
>I guess you wanted the dungeons to have more of an adventure game segment to look for clues that weren't there in the original?

That would be pretty sweet honestly but no, Id just be happy with.

>Spread out and look for clues gnag
>Party members walk of and stare at a wall till you talk to them all
>Dang didn't find anything.

All I want is a bit more effort being focused on the actual mystery. The way it gets resolved isn't the climax to a game of guess who it's a game of "we ran out of named characters"
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>>88809009
>all it takes is one fuck up or botched rescue on your end and the whole game comes crashing apart.
Yeah.

And...?
Like, is Adachi meant to do something about that?

He's fine just watching the IT do their thing, so he doesn't have a reason to interfere. And I can't think of a better way to have a hands-off self-perpetuating almost-murder machine going than what Adachi's got with Namatame. If the IT fuck up then he gets a quick laugh and then has to come up with a way to get more people in there when he gets bored again, by himself, which is riskier.

>>88809372
>No one even knew where people were being kidnapped until Naoto joins
No, the IT knew people were getting kidnapped somewhere near their own homes since Yukiko. Naoto just adds the details that the kidnapper is male, using chloroform, and working alone.

>I guess you wanted the dungeons to have more of an adventure game segment to look for clues that weren't there in the original?
No. I'd rather just a quick line or two of 'well should we look for clues' 'sure' 'huh i didn't find anything'. I don't think they'd ever be able to find evidence in the bossrooms/TV.
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>>88809664
When did the IT say they knew the location of the kidnapping?
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>>88809664
>And...?
>Like, is Adachi meant to do something about that?

well given he's for all intents the primary antagonist and this was all his plan..YES.

After 50 hours of game time it's rather anti climactic and disappointing to have the villain reveal his motivations where nothing more than "yeah it was funny"
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>Mutatsu: Acting like an adult makes you look more like a kid

Ken could have learned from this wise man
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>Couldn't find /pg/
>About to start new thread because I thought we died
>This moron just didn't put it in the OP
Can no one make an OP?
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>>88810206
Chill, the other threads had it, this one was just an odd one out
The next one will have it
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>>88810206
>not using persona to find it in the catalog

Don't be a retard either.
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>>88810206
>use search
>type Persona
>thread pops up before I even get pers out
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>>88810370
I might as well use Ultimax starter website too right?
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>>88810370
You don't even need to go that far
Just type in smt and you get it
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>people actually discussing plot instead of waifus
This is a step-up.
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persona 4 plot is dumb, surprise.
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>>88809794
Yukiko mentions that she last remembered being in her backyard or something, Kanji remembered being in/around his house. Don't remember the exact details but it they were all saying that they last remembered being near their homes before getting kidnapped.

>>88809992
Well his plan is that he's bored and wants entertainment. That's what it is.
Call it anti-climactic and disappointing if you found it anti-climactic and disappointing.

>>88810956
It happens sometimes
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>>88810956
This happens a lot
I only talk about my waifu when the thread is dead and there's nothing else to do
PQ brought in more game discussion, which means less waifus
Not that i mind, discussing these kinds of things is pretty entertaining too

>>88811113

Pretty much
ATLUS needs to get better writers
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Am I crazy, or do they use Rise's Japanese nickname in PQ and call her Risecchi instead Risette? I wonder why they decided to change it.

>>88810156
Mutatsu is one of my favorite Social Links. He really knows what he's talking about it.
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>>88811265
>Well his plan is that he's bored and wants entertainment. That's what it is.
>Call it anti-climactic and disappointing if you found it anti-climactic and disappointing.

and I did. Because for a 50 hour game that's stupid
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>>88811325
>I wonder why they decided to change it.
Same reason they went with the Yucatan and Chidorita. ATLUS usa doesn't think gaijin audience will understand Japanese honorifics and name corruptions if it's not -san, -chan, -kun, or -sensei.
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>>88811563
>ATLUS usa doesn't think gaijin audience will understand Japanese honorifics and name corruptions
I know that. I meant why they decided to change it back to Risecchi instead of Risette.
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>>88811113
I think the time between P3's release and P4's may have not been enough. I feel like P4 took the easy route in terms of story and making characters.

I remember hearing that the Japanese didn't think P4 was canon to the Persona world because it was so different.
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>>88811325
I like Risette better, Risecchi just sounds dumb.
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>>88811680
Remorse? Laziness?
>>88811723
You are the problem.
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>>88811680
Because of ecchi maybe? Maybe Atlus USA thinks the audience will think of ecchi instead ?
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>>88811563
>ATLUS usa doesn't think gaijin audience will understand Japanese honorifics and name corruptions

I think it's less UNDERSTAND and simply more they won't like them.

Cuz even in P3/4 hearing all the sans and sempais was just stupid sounding in english
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>in an alley filled with thugs
>Yukari calls them scum while hiding behind MC

It's like she WANTS them to get hit
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>>88811680
Oh whoops.

Completely misunderstood you.
Yeah, I don't know.

>>88811723
I agree
They kept Kanamin though. I think that one sounds ok.

>>88811702
>because it was so different.
Probably means the happy tone it has. It really doesn't match with P1, P2, and P3 in terms of happiness.
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>>88811702
How was P4 such a huge success? I mean I like the game, but when I read the reviews, I can't see the "incredible story" or the "fascinating characters" that all the critics talk about

Not to mention the user reviews are insanely high as well
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If Mitsuo hadn't gone bonkers and actually accepted his Shadow, what Persona would he have?
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>>88811998
Wish fulfillment fantasies
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>>88811998
Like I mentioned, I think it was the "safe" everything about P4 that made it successful. P3 was a huge gamble compared to P4.
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>>88811723
It sounds kinda weird to me, but that's just because I'm not used to it. I'd rather they just use what it's supposed to. It also makes Rise's line about "They call me 'Risette' and stuff and then turn around and treat me like a kid" make a whole lot more sense.

"Risette" is more cutesy, and does sound better to me as an English speaker, but knowing that her actual nickname is supposed to imply perviness and sexuality tells a lot more about her job as an idol than "Risette" does.

>>88812034
I'm more curious as to whether or not Namatame would've had a third version of Izanami, and if it would've had a "holy" theme to it.
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>>88811951
P1 had a happy ending, but I didn't get the same sense of intense sunshine amd rainbows happiness that P4 did.
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>>88812261
Namatame would probably have Hachiman, though it would have been better if this was Dojima's Persona.
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I would kill a man for Raidou DLC in Ultimax
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>>88811998
I guess the easy answer is that it's happy and panders with self-insertion and friends. It's probably also the right answer.

I don't really understand it myself and I'm a pretty strong P4fag. I wouldn't call the characters deep but I did find them interesting and liked them. One thing I really liked was the attention to detail in the setting, designs, NPCs ect. It's pretty cohesive. For the record I don't get why people like P3 so much either. The P3 plot/setting/characters don't interest me as much.

>>88812261
>Namatame would've had a third version of Izanami
Izanagi. Yeah probably.

>>88812341
The overall tone of P1 isn't overly saccharine though. P4's light-hearted the whole way through until Nanako dies.
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>>88812034
Ippon-Datara.
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>>88812605
>playable character Raidou
>Gouto as his navigator

That'd be pretty sweet
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>>88812124
What if that isn't why I like it?
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>>88812605
Me too
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>>88812814
Sure. Why did you like it?
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>>88812609
>Izanagi. Yeah probably.
Whoops. I was about to correct that when your post came up. I figure it makes sense, since Narukami and Adachi both have him, and all three got their personas the same way. I'd have liked it if he could have joined the team to help you out, but there's no way at all that would be possible.

>>88812714
Ippon-Datara is my husbando. I kinda want an NPC or party member to have him as their persona, but I'm worried they'd re-design him for that.
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>>88812609
I think "deep" is one of those nearly meaningless terms, but in the context used here I couldn't really call any of the games or casts deep.

If you like the games, it ud probably just because you identified with or liked the cast or the story and that's all I think you need.
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>>88812609
I wish I could have seen the P1 girls at the beach.
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>>88813017
Well of course they'd redesign him, but just for whatever game he's Mitsuo's Persona. Izanami went back to normal in later stuff.

He'd probably have that 'Mitsuo the Hero' clothing coloration, maybe some more vidya style themes.
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>>88813139
>I couldn't really call any of the games or casts deep
I agree

>probably just because you identified with or liked the cast or the story
Well you're definitely right there.
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>>88812892
I liked the laid back pacing, the town and the themes related to it (sensationalism and truth), the cast's problems felt real to me, and bad puns.
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Does Natsuki know about the dark hour and the shadows?
she acts like she does
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>>88813447
I don't think so. I think she forgot most of what happened that night with Fuuka
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>>88813184
>Yukino in a bikini
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>>88813358
Hey faggot some of us had fathers that sudoku'd at a clock tower while our celebrity mother ignored us. Just saying.
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>>88813447
I think she vaguely knows that Fuuka and SEES saved her, but I don't think she knows the finer details like about shadows and personas. I'm pretty sure most of her memories of that night are gone.
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>>88813139
>I couldn't really call any of the games or casts deep.

well I think the problem with 4 is that people seem to think that given a character an issue is enough even though the narrative does almost nothing with it and it's resolved faster than it's brought up.

>oh this dungeon represents Kanji's gay side he's gay that's so deep.

When he's not even fucking gay, and that aside the narrative has nothing to do with this.

He's afraid of people thinking he's a fag and what? That's it. That's the end of it.
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>>88813358
Yeah. I liked those things too.

Overall I feel like P4 is pretty grounded in a way that appeals to me. Outside of the supernatural stuff, the strangest thing is Naoto being a cross-dressing detective at 16.
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>>88813552
Yeah well my mother was killed by a terrorist TV and I deal with it
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the other girls are cute

but Yukiko is straight up beautiful
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>>88813841
My mom had an affair with a rich dude who already had a son. Also I hate my halfbro.
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>>88791247
rise a slut
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>>88813552
Quit complaining, Jun. Not all of us get new, even better fathers.
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>>88813623
That honestly isn't really any different thsn the other games though. I think it works in 4 for me because they're not problems I expect a major resolution from. I expect Kanji to grapple with that for a long time. Real social and mental problems don't heal fast or easily, so I was okay with no big resolution at the end.
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>>88814096
I'd fuck both real and fake Kashihara. No homo.
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>>88811998
retarded story
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>>88813623
I really wish they'd talked a little more about the fact that, not only is Kanji afraid of people making fun of him for his "girly" hobbies, but he also fell hard for someone he was pretty certain was a guy. He's also shown attraction to women, so I don't think he's gay, more somewhere in the middle, and it would've been nice for them to mention that.

More than that, though, I wish they'd done, well, anything at all with Chie's controlling nature after her dungeon. For how much they talk about how in control of Yukiko's life she was, I don't think she really acted like it after her dungeon. I think she changed too fast, and I'd have liked to have seen her try to be controlling of Yukiko, and even other party members and NPCs, longer as she takes time to learn to let go and stop trying to make their choices for them.
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>>88814139

Most games at least interweave the characters story's into the main narrative and resolve it over the course of the story.

P4 introduces a problem and then resolves it just to get it out of the way. That's a problem because once it's all done with the characters default to a one note gimmick.

It's like the game doesn't want to focus on its characters anymore than it has too and as a result it all feels rather shallow
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>>88813906

Yukiko is pretty, but more importantly she has a family that attends to her and has groomed her to look her best.
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>>88813623
>He's afraid of people thinking he's a fag and what? That's it. That's the end of it.
Social link.

The main cast's character development all gets shoved into the social link instead of the main narrative. I really don't know why they did this, because it means the characters have to be shot into a point of their development and are stuck there for the rest of the game. The narrative can't know what rank of development the SL is on to make the characters act accordingly. Take Naoto, you have to go out of the way to start it and even in her first four ranks of SL she's chilly but at the same time in the narrative she's a lot more open. Eventually the SL catches up to the narrative but comparing her before and after her dungeon would almost give you whiplash with how different her behaviour is.

I think overall the SLs do a decent job of poking the issues that get brought up by their shadow, but the narrative doesn't do the same thing. If you want a somewhat cynical reasoning for that you could say that they don't want the characters to get in conflict with each other at all so they all just get shot up to a point where they're most open to banter. You could also say that it's just hard to do considering that most of the narrative scenes that aren't 'who could the killer be? someone got thrown in the tv again!' are comedy scenes.

I think the way they handled that was pretty lame overall though.
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this thread is why waifu discussion is superior to game discussion. the plots for all of these games are illogical and discussions about consistency is so beyond autism it hurts.

meanwhile waifu discussion gets to the core of what makes these games even remotely worthwhile and is lighthearted enough to generate good fun posts.

we do not want autists screaming at each other about why they didn't take pictures of the tv world or whatever.
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Wait, Natsuki is experiencing the dark hour
Does that mean she has the potential?
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>>88813987
>not fucking your halfbro
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>>88814787
B8
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>>88814542
it's terribly executed presentation of character development. much as this guy >>88814381
said, the episodic "shadow of the week" is beyond poor writing. no need to derp a wall of text over very simple issues.
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>>88814951
>muh serious discussions about muh serious game
get a hold of yourself autist
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>>88814798
I don't think she does. They explain it later, but I'll spoiler text it here if you don't give a shit. The shadows call out to someone who'll be their next victim. That person is able to experience the Dark Hour, but only so that they can come to where the shadow is.
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>>88814798
She's being targeted so she can experience it for that brief time before being attackes by shadows and go apathy.
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>>88814787
>talking about a game = autism
>talking about waifus not autism
?
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>>88814798
who gives a fuck. they needed her to have the scene with fuuka.
post more waifus you retards and stop derping at these obvious devices of
>character development
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People are actually discussing plot now instead of their shitty waifus. I'm surprised. /pg/ has come a long way.
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i just wanted to remember
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>>88814815
>homo and incest

But that's forbidden!
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>>88815280
Don't get your hopes up too high
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Was Apathy a world wide thing or did it only happen on the port?

You think there would be social links about people who experienced it happen to them but eh
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>>88815225
would you prefer straight up retard instead.
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>>88814787
You're retarded if you think waifu discussion > game discussion. This is a GAME, therefore, it should be discussed. Waifu shitposting comes second, as it should be, but dumbasses like you think that waifu shitposting is the le ebin best thing ever xddd.

faggot.
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>>88815225
>talking on 4chan = autism
welcome to the zone

captcha : i am not a robot
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>Mitsuru: we can't bring her (natsuki) here, and making one of us stay was out of the question

That is exactly what they did in the Movie tho

>>88815083
>>88815106
I already P3 a year ago, but my PC died and I'm replaying it now
I forgot about a lot of stuff
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>>88814798
same thing that happened to the other bullies happened to her, being drawn to tarturus
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>>88815392
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Stop taking the bait
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Mitsuo has the only good dungeon soundtrack
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If you're gonna waifufag post, you better post shit like "If you kissed the persona 3 + 4 girls, what would it feel like/how skilled at it would they be?"
or "What do you think the cocks of the persona 3 and 4 guys are like/what would (heterosexual) sex with them be like?"
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>>88815383
I have no clue what you're even saying retard

English not your first language?
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>>88815440
I don't know if this is true considering how rumor obsessed the MT fandom is, but I heard that Natsuki was supposed to be a playable character. Basically the hama user but was replaced by Ken.
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>>88815294

that looks incredibly painful
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>>88815629
>implying
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rbdGvTpMwg
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>>88815685
>replaced by Ken.
Fucking Ken.
Every time. He always ruins shit.
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>>88815741
For you
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>>88815440
>I forgot about a lot of stuff
I know that feel. Carry on, then.

>>88815685
If that's true, I'd have preferred if they kept Natsuki. Fuck Ken. Even beyond him getting Shinji killed, I don't care for him. Natsuki's way more interesting.
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>>88815685
>Fandom
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>>88815280
but the plot is literal shit and very basic. how retarded do you have to be to actually discuss these things?

>larger problem is that for the most part the only people who got tossed into the TV where people who joined your party.
uh no shit because tossing into the tv = tell a story about this guy and they dont have space to tell that many.

>I really wish they'd talked a little more about the fact that, not only is Kanji afraid of people making fun of him for his "girly" hobbies,
LOL they are not actually engaging gender issues you retard. homolust is not a plot point it is just a pandering point with fujoshits. it's not like japan has any sort of enlightened view of homosexuality to bother with a non caricature description.

all of your 'plot discussions' are basically retarded. please don't do it
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>>88815949
ugh, this random bully girl IS SO MUCH INTERESTING
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>>88816026
and hidden
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>>88815767
you only like it because you associate it with lewd pictures of Rise, anon
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>>88814542
I don't think making the resolution plot mandatory automatically makes things better. P3 had this but a lot of characters still largely ended up the same way.
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>>88816026
Stop
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>>88814787

Waifu talk is no less capable of degenerating into vicious shitposting.
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>>88816005
Yes the megami tensei fandom. We have a very awful tendency to make shit up and spread it like it's the truth. Especially the Persona fandom. Like father like son, amirite?
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>>88816151
Being brown makes her instantly better
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>>88815389
but the only thing interesting in these games are the waifus. are you seriously going to discuss p3 metaphysiccs or p4 plot? these are very simple, linear constructs generating cheap drama and whatnot. if you want to discuss plot and writing do it for something that actually has them. it's like saying twilight or game of thrones discussions would be improved by avoiding shipping. they are what they are, entertaining set of fetish characters set within some random fuckall world.
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>everyone took all the bait
Great fucking job, guys.
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>>88816287
doors right there
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Good job /pg/

>>88815685
>>88816249
get this tumblr shit outta here
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>>88816294

> implying my response wasn't in fact bait that you just took
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>muh serious jrpg story
highest kek
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>>88816384
What are you talking about?
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>>88816093

she is when compared to Ken who does nothing but sit in the lounge every day till it's time to get a better character killed

the dogs more interesting than he is
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why is there people defending Marie nowadays?
stockholm syndrome?
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>>88816384
That filename got me hehe
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