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>Our base human strength is in part our ability to create tools and technology.
well, aren't you smart?
>Is that really how they think?
No, I'm playing along, I even shielded myself with Chaos there.
>But a lot of people do have to apply it IRL since their careers require it.
That IS applying it IRLTake for instance, I study medicine check the booksand this semester as part of the pharmacology course we're taught to do several basic, but complex multiplications for dosification purposes and we're asked to do it without calculator. You have no idea how many people are failing because of this. You probably study an engineer or something so you see big equations, but down here middle level is where this is most clear.
>They would't read the whole thing.
but even reading a little piece is big knowledge, it wakes up interest and hunger for knowledge
...How? If you were going to insult neutral you'd think of fedora tippers at worst, not raging obese feminists. Self identified postmodernists all insist that they're on a quest to upheave the status quo with revolutionary action. So you'd expect that to be law or chaos depending on how you think they interpret them.
Thing with neutral in SMT is that it's nothing on a modernistic, artistic, nihilistic or anything -stic. it's just saying "No" to whatever both Law and Chaos are doing at the time that will drive demons away, recently a reset button.
I need more images. I only have a couple.
>Follows YHVH's plan of Conception and rebirth
>Has the support of the heavenly host
>Wants to create a world kept pure by the beautiful elite
>Final form is an eternally beautiful statue
What's not Law?
DeSu1 has a great story, closer to SMT 1, introduces the gameplay well, but it's rather difficult and it's has the unpolishedness of a first game in a series.
DeSu2 has better gameplay, but the story is iffy and a little dumb, the improvements in gameplay made the game far too easy too.
Desu 1 characters > 2 characters
Desu 1 autism < desu 2 autism
Desu 1 enemies < desu 2 enemies
Desu 1 waifupandering < desu 2 waifupandering
Desu 2 is also much weirder than 1.
Have a bueno day.
DeSu 1 has better story and characters, DeSu 2 had better gameplay until they made Overclocked. Now the only reason to touch DeSu 2, at least before BR comes out, is if you want to play as an autist, like Evangelion, or are a waifufag.
What? I haven't played Nocturne for a while but I'm pretty sure Baal Avatar's not her final form, but the God sponsoring her Reason. Just like Noah for Isamu and whatsaname for Hikawa.
>no, I'm playing along
Ah, good to know. I was starting to feel I'd give weird looks to taoists.
>You have no idea how many people are failing because of this. You probably study an engineer or something so you see big equations, but down here middle level is where this is most clear.
Sexoterapia? Sounds lewd. I do in fact study Oil & Gas EngineeringBut they ARE failing.
If they intend on pursuing that career, they will have to work it out somehow. Also, while this is a lesser point, mathematics are but one part of humans' general knowledge. Some people are shit at math, but most people are very good at something.
>but even reading a little piece is big knowledge, it wakes up interest and hunger for knowledge
Of course, but a book is hardly the only thing that causes this.
I can think of a lot of situations where I looked something up on wikipedia, then an hour later was reading about completely unrelated stuff.
Gramscianism is the baby of Antonio Gramsci, an italian socialist who created the concept of Cultural hegemony. Basically appropriating culture in order to further a specific ideal.
In his case, creating a culture to oppose the bourgeoisie.
But he opened a can of worms since people use it in feminism and similar "causes."
It's one of the reasons why people nowadays are easily offended and can't take a joke. Many see it as privilege and etc.
I wasn't even the Taoist, though I told you.
>Sexoterapia? Sounds lewd
It's the easiest optional subject, I needed to raise the average. I learned lots of non-lewd things about sex, tough.
>mathematics are but one part of humans' general knowledge
Addition, subtraction, multiplication and divisions are part of a human's general knowledge. Everything beyond it such as algebra and calculum is studied, taught, and can only be learned through teaching or self-discovery.
So it's the root ideology that those with power are priviledged, and that they should be brought down?
>doesn't look very geeky
Correct, Yasuda just has a fetish for cheongsam and slits in shirts.
Clothing like that would offer a ton of breathing room for the body as well as a massive range of movement.
>easy to wear
Do you like shorts? Because I do!
> a ton of breathing room
it looks tight, look at how her tits are being molded by the fabric and how it's stretched around her waist. She probably has problems breathing
>I wasn't even the Taoist, though I told you.
Oh I know, I just thought you were arguing things based on a Taoist point of view. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
>I needed to raise the average. I learned lots of non-lewd things about sex, tough.
I know that feel. I'm still stuck on what I should pick.
If they're non-lewd I don't know if /smtg/ would be interested.
>Addition, subtraction, multiplication and divisions are part of a human's general knowledge. Everything beyond it such as algebra and calculum is studied, taught, and can only be learned through teaching or self-discovery.
Good point. But those people in your class DO know addition, subtraction and multiplication.
Chances are, they just don't practice it, so they get rusty.
>So it's the root ideology that those with power are priviledged, and that they should be brought down?
More or less. Gramscianism itself relates more specifically to modern socialist strategy, which involves cultural hegemony, which is what you described.
Taken from wikipedia:
>In Marxist philosophy, the term Cultural hegemony describes the domination of a culturally diverse society by the ruling class, who manipulate the culture of that society — the beliefs, explanations, perceptions, values, and mores — so that their ruling-class worldview becomes the worldview that is imposed and accepted as the cultural norm; as the universally valid dominant ideology that justifies the social, political, and economic status quo as natural, inevitable, perpetual and beneficial for everyone, rather than as artificial social constructs that benefit only the ruling class.
Modern marxists, feminists, and such, use this concept in order to further their own ideals by trying to take control of culture.
SJW influence in video games is actually a very glaring part of this.
>it looks tight
Only in fan-art. Fan-art is a bad choice for judging many things.
>If they're non-lewd I don't know if /smtg/ would be interested.
It was a branch of psychology, so it was mostly shit like how orgasms work and how men can only have one and women several
How a fetish is not a paraphilia (psycological disorder) if you can get exited by other things, shit like that.
I started a shitstorm by asking the teacher if drawn child pornography, lolicon, was considered paedophilia. Answer ended up "as long as it's not a paraphilia it's not, and shouldn't be illegal if no child is hurt.
>they just don't practice it, so they get rusty
I dunno man, maybe I'm just too good a pythaogoras theorem, they all gave me weird looks when I told them they could do the theorem in a different order and it was going to give the same result. Lots of people choose medicine because they think "there is no math here".
So Cultural Hegemony is having the "alpha" culture amongst the rest of the cultures in a diverse society.... To push your own agenda, huh? World is filled with crazy people, ain't it? Glad to know SJWs ideology has a name.
that still looks rather tight. And look at that, she's wearing fucking heels. Damn, son.
Can't picture that scene going on, though. Those laptops will crash and they look expensive
Did Fumi subdued Trumpeteer by throwing Macs at him?
Well to be honest I'm just trying to rationalize the clothing of a character that's so obviously fetishised it hurts, so whatever I guess. No point trying to make sense of Yasuda's art.
I will never, ever understand the anti-grav tits. Maybe it's a by-product of an abundance of MAG?
>No point trying to make sense of Yasuda's art.
>Maybe it's a by-product of an abundance of MAG?
Anon, follow your own advice. We can just end this by saying:
Yasuda just makes every girl his fap material. he doesn't give a shit anymore
>by asking the teacher if drawn child pornography, lolicon, was considered paedophilia.
Oh my god, i wish I witnessed that.
>they all gave me weird looks when I told them they could do the theorem in a different order and it was going to give the same result.
That's... a bit worrying, not gonna lie.
>So Cultural Hegemony is having the "alpha" culture amongst the rest of the cultures in a diverse society.... To push your own agenda, huh?
Yep. The funny thing about it is, socialists and SJWs accuse the supposed "groups in power" of this, while they try to do it themselves.
And the way they try, it's honestly very worrying. Because people are starting to buy into it. People are being indoctrinated by them, and they don't even realize it.
This, too, is part of gramscianism.
It's called "Passive Revolution"
>Passive revolution is a term coined by Italian politician and philosopher Antonio Gramsci during the interwar period in Italy. Gramsci coined the term to refer to a significant change that is not a rupturous one, but a slow and gradual metamorphosis which could take years or generations to accomplish.
Look at Yuzu and Fumi. Mari, Otome and even Midori has sizable tits.
I have literally never thought about this before.
Great, I just spent 5 minutes imagining a skeleton with magic lungs and lips.
>Hey, hey guys, you know how you redesigned the archangels in 4? Yeah, I think we need more, uh, what's the word, phallic presence again
>Oh my god, i wish I witnessed that.
You should've, and I should've recorded it. It was me and the teacher, backs against the wall against mostly women and one or two whiteknights. Teacher took care of the situation well, though.
>That's... a bit worrying, not gonna lie.
This is México, and again, This is a career where around 60% of it's students absolutely hate math, some of them refuse to try to understand it entirely.
That whole situation sounds like pure comedy gold.
And I can't say
Brazilis any better in that regard, to be honest.
I guess I don't see much of those people since I'm in engineering.
Welp, this was a fun chat, Jimenez bro, but I've gotta hit the sack now.
Don't let them evil SJWs dominate your culture, now.
Is there anywhere in nocturne that I can grind macca?
anon, these oni are stupidly resistant to my physical attacks Ive buffed and debuffed and I havent beaten the first one yet
does the oni captain have that?
fug I dont feel like going into 2nd kalpa
You don't have to do it immediately. I found the exit before I found all the oni on my first time through the tunnels and I just left and then returned later when I felt like running around in the dark some more.
The combat system is still better in 2, even with overclocked.
Also having no characters that I just want to murder is a huge bonus.
is mana drain worth?
these are my skills
pls help /smtg/
>having no characters that I just want to murder
>It's beaten by shipping, scratched by time and stained with pride, but by YHVH almighty it's mine... the only surviving "official" design for the Hathor in If...
how much did you pay, not including shipping
That feel when you realize that even if demons came into our world, you'd probably just be one faceless victim of a nuclear strike who never even had a chance to realize what was going on in the world around him.
Mastemahaving bad blood with the Archangelsin IV ?
Satan is old and busted. Mastema is the new hotness.
>the archangels have before gone outside of the will of yhvh before
i think it was smt 2.
there's a false yhvh.
there some shit that yhvh supposedly said would be so, but he took his sweet time about it, so the archangels did it themselves, genetically engineering Aleph and whatever
someone else is probably more familiar with it
The archangels were waiting for the messiah to establish the Thousand Year kingdom, they couldnt wait and created the MC to be the messiah but by doing so they made YHVH mad and thus he abandoned them.
So it's because they're impatient ? Okaaay, but that's in SMT II. What about IV, is there any reason ?
>Satan is old and busted.
just be content that some people like you, mastema. don't push our faith.
call me when you're a folk hero of the downtrodden like zayin.
yes the games have their own continuities, unless otherwise stated, but i think there's some subtext that major demons are continuous between games, but that's pure speculation.
then again, gods and demons don't always go through clear character arcs, so you can't exactly disprove the idea
We dont know anything about him in 4, the thing is both Mastema and the Archangels have their own idead of what YHVH wants so they dont really talk to him.
My theory is that YHVH is still recovering from SJ or Space Marine kept him sealed.
>u talkin shit about muh butt buddy like i wouldn't find out
In his original lore that the games derive from mastema was an angel who when he saw god cast the demons out of heaven, he asked to be allowed some as subordinates so that he could cause them to tempt humans to see which humans were good. His role in Iv parallels this. Ignore strange journey. What he's doing in iv has very little to do with that.
Basically what it is then is God is the god of order. So he is a force of order in the world, as are the angels. However, its not clear how MUCH order that means he wants. So there's a disagreement. Its never made clear whose side God is on, or whether he allows them both to do different things to see who wins. But the regular archangels are beings of order. They want the law end as a world of max order. Mastema however at the very least believes that God "allowed him demons as subordinates," and that rather than create a world of order he could try to create a neutral world with "just enough" order. He insists this is God's true will. they disagree, so they fight eachother.
An interesting side note is that polytheistic gods can come in many flavors. Law, neutral, or chaos. However, angels it seems are absolute beings. They only exist as either angels or fallen angels. Fallen meaning shift to absolute chaos. So the angelic "neutral" representative can only function as neutral by averaging out the law and chaos influences. Which in this context means a lawful angel working with chaotic fallen angels.
If SMTxFE ever happens, where will it belong ?
Gideon Zhi is supposedly releasing if... in two weeks for the game's anniversary, and there has been no info about DebiSama. Oh, and the NES Megami Tensei translation was released, but the game, the translation and its author suck.
I don't know if this counts, but Orden was translating Kyuuyaku to Spanish but he lost everything. He said he would still finish it, though. And I think he had Strange Journey con hiatus because of lack of knowledge and tools.
The Fiends known as the Four Horsemen and Trumpeter are the exception to the rule, being Neutral but servants of God, but tend to aid Lucifer.
>"Now we are going to invade heaven and destroy YHVH."
>the fiends face when
Didn't they question your motives on the Third Kalpa and got pissed if you answered wrong ?
No they got the memo. The Lady in Black even mentions that some knew what Lucifers plan was in Nocturne while others were ignorant.
They come to challenge Raidou at his request in King Abaddon in several Case Files, and also do their job as servants of God when summoned by man's despair in the Infinite Abyss.
IV is really the first time that they've been an enemy of Chaos, as Belial sealed them away in Infernal Tokyo. Though their dialogue where they send you away until you accept the quest suggests that they stay there willingly.
I wonder what became of the anon who was translating Demonic Gene.
I was hoping to know what the deal is with Black Flynn and why he appears to travel through time to before Walter becomes a Samurai at the end.
That's what you get for praising God, Law Hero.
>Implying he wont go to heaven
He has served his purpose.
All that awaits him is eternal suffering along with the other unworthy.
Where is heaven then? Because the Abyss where all the demons chill is an actual place on Earth right below the surface, at least in SMT 2. And we meet YHVH on the Eden spaceship.
What? Satan tells me that we just left my home planet. He doesn't refer to it as his, just mine.
I don't get those games, I tried to play the remake of 1 on DS and got bored after like 2 missions.
I like my devil survivor and advance wars though, but FE seems like a bastard child of a full blown srpg and a simplistic panzer general clone like advance wars.
It is in Devil Children.
Heck it's Five planets flying above each other. But YHVH doesn't exist in Devil Children and most of the Ars Goetia are angels because you are born an angel or demon.
Do we have to care about Devil Children in regards to canon? It seems to do almost everything contrary to how its done in the main games from what I've heard. Every time DC is brought up it seems to be about how bizarro opposite it is.
you had an anon say that satan if from heaven and isn't a terrestrial being.
that's the best you'll get.
i mean seriously, yhvh did not originate from the earth, and some amount of his angels would have pre-existed the earth, assuming whatever judeo-christian creation story.
to contrast, you have a lot of nature spirits, or spirits that are dependent or highly influenced by human activity. those would definitely be 'from earth'
It's always been my understanding that YHVH's origins are the same as any other demon's. He just became a lot stronger than the others and got full of himself. You're saying he's a space demon that came to Earth to make humans and make the demons native to Earth fuck off underground?
Of course. You mean a spaceplane.
It's not that different. Angels are still Lawfags and Demons are still Chaosfags.
Just that most demons don't go to the extreme, and there are peaceful angels even if most are assholes.
And the Pope is a pretty cool guy..
But if you must know of a Heaven seen in other games, look at Majin Tensei II's Amnesia.
That's right. He became powerful through human belief and overthrew the other Gods who ruled in those ancient times alongside him. King of Bel, Mem Aleph, and more.
Polaris Akasha Stratum exists in another part of the universe.
And he does imply there are other things in the universe besides the humans when you seek to murder and overthrow him.
Extremely difficult and unbalanced.
Maps are HUGE. What you see in Kyuuyaku are remade, smaller maps. And the most terrifying feature of all: it has no
save points. Don't ask me how the hell do you beat the game then, maybe there's one in Micon.
>It's always been my understanding that YHVH's origins are the same as any other demon's.
are you referring to the postmodern 'belief makes it real'/ it's an embodiment of some aspect of the collective human condition thing that smt does with some demons?
i don't think that applies to every being. big guys like yhvh, brahman, whatever, can exist outside of humanity.
>implying consistency between games
>every fucking thread
whatever. there are no right answers anyway.
cozy and kaneko are cockteases with the lore
megaten is a dead franchise
>implying deviliser actually has anything to do with Devil Children besides the possibly intentional pun on Devil Riser
also, there is a huge distinction between being 'from space' and 'predating the earth'
also isn't Sanat Kumara from Venus? so it's not a big deal that some beings are from space. it's an idea that already exists in the collective awareness of world mythology and folklore, so why would it not apply to smt?
>That's right. He became powerful through human belief and overthrew the other Gods who ruled in those ancient times alongside him. King of Bel, Mem Aleph, and more.
That actually makes a lot of sense, I've always assumed YHVH started on Earth like every other demon.
Do you think that YHVH chose the form that would be most (sexually) pleasing to Mem Aleph?
I didn't mean he was literally on their level.
He became powerful enough to challenge them over time. It took him more than a thousand years to finally defeat the King of Bel.
Abdiel was the guy who told God about Lucifer's defection if I recall right. Then he defeated him and Arioch in combat.
Thinking about it, I believe it's possible Mastema had servant angels in the past. Since something happened to make Walter and Jonathan's mangas alternate worlds, it's likely some of his servants are still around in those alternate realms.
They probably got killed off in the game timeline.
YHVH took some dirt off of Mem Aleph and changed its shaped.
Then Mem Aleph probably popped out a soul from her vagina, and then YHVH sang one of his greatest hits to imbue the Holy Spirit.
Uriel's a pretty cool guy in Majin Tensei. He's french and will recruit the other Three Archangels if you have him talk to them. Then he helps you beat Satan.
And in Devil Children he's a genocidal knight and an assassin who guards Heaven's Gate.
>Law: Righteous winged warrior
>Chaos: Dick, tits and vagina nipples carved into the armor
Why is Chaos so degenerate?
>symbols of life and fertility
>not putting those on chaos armor
lawfag pls go
Damm pope like if raping kids wasnt bad enough.
For the sake of the 100 year kingdom the Filth must be removed.
>Putting genitalia everywhere
If dicks are so beautiful why don't you go suck one?
Well yeah. Chaos is all about the primal, instinctual, uncontrolled urges, usually not even really conscious. In other words, the id. Law is all about submitting to a greater social structure and its restrictions. That is, the superego. So it makes sense that the Chaos armor would have the Freudian imagery all over it, while the Law armor would be not only covered in religious (socially restrictive) symbolism but outright be called the Jesus armor.
She doesn't even have the best Reason.
>become your own god
What's wrong with this reason, again?
Yeah his reason is pretty cool, imagine everyone having their own little world as their own God, sure Isamu seemed to sound selfish but his reason would had made everyone happy.
Daily reminder that Atlus are dirty fucking niggers apes that can't do shit but suck balls. Fucking tards who can't even bring a stupid digital download game to yurop. America was right in bombing you fuckers, at least you were punctual in exploding
Yeah he came across as a dick sometimes, but I think that's just the kind of guy Isamu was. Musubi also had the best ending music.
Complete isolation, absolute loneliness. Surrounding yourself by a world where you control everything and it's absolutely impossible for anything to truly surprise you or plainly interact with you.
Depends. If you aren't omniscient and none the smarter than you already are then you could still be surprised by your creations. Just because you create things doesn't mean you'll now how they'll interact with everything else you create. Think of it as the ultimate sims game.
I have no idea what you're talking about
And of course the fucking image is upside down
Can confirm. Dragon Quest final boss designs are cool as fuck.
Just found out that there was a removed scene in Nocturne sometime after Isamu is taken away from the Mantra Headquarters, and sometime before you enter Kabukicho Prison.
It's Yuko broadcasting a message via the terminals to the Demi-Fiend, to come save her in the Obelisk and be her strength,
be the hero Tokyo deservesand whatnot.
Problem being that the Demi-Fiend is too busy
dungeon crawling / punching all demons in his way / diving into the Labyrinth of Amala / etc.and he doesn't get the message. Isamu, however, does, and seeing as he'd already wanted to fuck Yuko since before the Conception (he's the one who asked you and Chiaki to come with him to "visit" her), hearing Yuko begging YOU to come save her instead of him triggered Isamu. Hence why he was a dick to you worse upon rescuing him from Kabukicho Prison.
My theory here is that in the Musubi ending, if it were to happen, after everybody is reborn and gets their own world, he makes his own with just him and a Yuko he creates for himself.
The Yuko he
But yeah, Corvus was a pretty good tragic villain, plus he had an ACTUAL PLAN. Granted it involved him sitting alone, at the basement of the castle of the ruler he brainwashed, shooting giant purple laser beams at God, but it worked.
>People bitch about Toriyama's characters all looking the same.
That may be somewhat true of his humans, but I swear humans make up less than half of all the characters he's ever designed for everything.
>GUARDIAN'S EYE - ADDS 3 PRESS TURN ICONS
>Homeland Song - 2~3 hits heavy Almighty damage, multiple enemies.
>Conquerer Spirit - 2 hits Physical attack, all enemies
>CURSE THY ENEMY - Heavy Almighty attack, INFLICTS ENEMY WEAKNESS, ALL ENEMIES. Can be countered by smirk.
"Guardian's Eye", which he'll almost always use once he has around 1/2 HP left, gives him three extra Press Turns. For free. That's a grand total of EIGHT PRESS TURNS PER ROUND for him!
He's so absurdly difficult, there's only ONE strategy that actually works to beating him. Don't know what strategy it is though.
The thing about Masakado's Shadow is that he absorbs all attacks save for Almighty, Light, and Dark. Almighty does scratch damage while Light and Dark attacks are nulled. Complicating things is that you have only ten turns to defeat him, because by then the ICBMs drop, and everybody is nuked to death a la "The Ambassador has launched the ICBMs!". Pierce skills are a must, and you might want to consider High Pleroma passive skills as well as Bloody Glee for your physical attackers. You want as many extra turns as you can get, and bringing a demon with Doping might help too since his Almighty attacks hurt like hell.
>Being this much of a faggot
You don't literally need to be a mother to be a milf, the phrase has gone far past that. Unless the child is directly involved in the reason you want to fuck her it is an irrelevant part of the equation. All that matters is that its an older woman you'd fuck.
Yeah, that's the one.
Focus boosted piercing Kannuki Throw spam.
Even though Masakado's Shadow uses most of his extra turns for Move Slowly, Aim Carefully, and the like, when he DOES attack you get rekt.
Forgetting the other Christmas Cake.
I feel your pain, Anon.
He's letting his avatar Kagutsuchi do the high-and-mighty routine in Nocturne.
then why did you quote me?
obviously you meant it for me to read, you couldve quoted anyone else or quoted no one at all
>all this damage control
Yes it does. Older sexually active women are cougars.
Milfs are mothers. Just because you want to ignore that aspect because you're slightly more concious than most of the oedipical implications of talking that you want to fuck a mom doesn't mean that the phrase is going to change its meaning.
go take a nap grandpa
>Why did you even reply to me if you weren't in that conversation?
you explicitly made sure I saw your post, you wanted me to reply, like bait but youre too retarded to bait the right person
BROFIST, i'm the one that's trying to make this bunch of retards understand that they're wrong and someone finally agrees with me that it matters, together we will change this rotten world!!
>Older sexually active women are cougars.
Cougars have to be active like you said, as in seeking out prey. That's the point.
>Milfs are mothers. Just because you want to ignore that aspect because you're slightly more concious than most of the oedipical implications of talking that you want to fuck a mom doesn't mean that the phrase is going to change its meaning.
Ignoring this obvious projection, just google the phrase and you'll see you're wrong. It simply isn't used to refer exclusively to mothers anymore, just older women.
You should really take the time to proofread what your fingers spew.
>you wanted me to reply, like bait but youre too retarded to bait the right person
What? That doesn't even makes sense, what in the name of the Lord did you meant with that abomination you dare to call a sentence?
My husbando is non-SMT related,but Demi-fiend a cute.
Since google is too harsh a mistress for you, allow me.
>an attractive older woman, usually a mother, who is regarded as a sexual object by a younger man.
>an attractive older woman. Acronym for "mom I'd like to fuck" or "mother I'd like to fuck". Popularized by the movie American Pie.
>A sexually attractive older woman, typically one who has children.
Now shut up about it.
As naturally as the options let me
Have some sort of goal I'm aiming for, play accordingly
>3rd Playthrough if at all
Save more than is necessary, try every option once, read dialogue and reactions, reload saves, rinse and repeat until seen each option and reaction, finally pick the one I want, go from there until new dialogue option or save point
Can't you just keep your world rotten, and leave mine alone?
>Noah 2nd phase even has Isamu's hat
His hat is THAT cool, huh?
in any particular mythology? yea he's in judaism
same with a lot of the angelic orders - most of the abrahamic religious stuff in SMT is pulled from judaism, not christianity or islam
What's with Soejima non-human designs lacking feet?
Also, damn, Nyx Avatar's design and representation within the game is great.
None because i am not a dog of girls unlike you!
Correct yourself. Angels can't be compared to witless demonic filth.
But the in the game itself it references any messianic deity, not specifically Jesus. Hell if that thing is supposed to be a cross, then it's upside down and it's more Saint Peter than Jesus. I'd understand if there was a throned crown or some nails somewhere, but to me it's rather far fetched.
>Appears before Judgment Day to save the virtuous. He is a universal figure, appearing in myths around the world. Many stories involve his death and rebirth.
While death and rebirth and the concept of a judgmnent day are common in religions, mentioning both of them nods to Messiah being a reference to jesus
the part where he learns absorb pierce is also a hint
Some of these are not really all that good but I'm doing them for completion's sake.
>"Appears before Judgment Day to save the virtuous. He is a universal figure, appearing in myths around the world. Many stories involve his death and rebirth."
The first sentence is straight up Jesus.
>he learns absorb pierce
Oh right, my bad it's definitely Jesus. I haven't played the game in so long.
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
>You will never fuse with a demon
>You will never carve out a tribe with your best friends
>You will never look out for your human cattle, partly due to your past kinship and partly due to the nourishment they provide in the form of worship
>You will never revel in the fight on the battlefield
>You will never conquer other tribes and slowly grow your power
>You will never create a kingdom founded by warriors, for warriors
>You will never swear your demonic horde to Lucifer's cause for the war against YHVH
>not wanting to be a bitch slave to the Gayos-aligned rapists
>a bad thing
This is why your Chaos demons lost the war and were cast out of Heaven: Messians focus on fulfilling the will of God, you Gaians focus on having gay sex. SMT2 follows up on the Neutral ending of SMT1, and in doing so it proves that, if you go Neutral, not only will there be another conflict but in the interim Law will be on top, and it's specifically because the human and angelic servants of God are exclusively heterosexual while Chaos is filled with homosexuals. Neutral tries to walk a balance, but eventually the existence of gays will cause any Neutral society to need to tip in one direction or the other.
I'm so mad im going to kill those fuckers.
I gave Gale +4 agility and the HEE HOO ring.
Roland has Void fire/Elec
Cielo is just there so i can use Mazionga.
Should i use Tarunda?
Does it work on the turrets because honestly i didn't notice a difference.I'm getting by Sharpshooter and Barrage and every time its a critical.
I'm also thinking about Sukukaja but i dont want to waste Gale's turns.
>Not proving your worthy of standing above Lucifer and impressing the Prince of Darkness, who stands aside for your rule.
Ok, now i'm sincerely thinking that neutral fags have mental problems and can't tell the difference between COMPLETE OPPOSITES like ORDER AND CHAOS, you know what OPPOSITES mean?
I know the differences but the resemblance that they're both for stupid uncultured beta swines screams louder than the differences.
Overall you have to choose between being non mentally handicapped and being a mentally handicap closet faggot.Only retards,christians and 12 year olds,like yourself, pick Law or Chaos.
What does neutral even achieves at the end? Absolutely nothing, do you even stop to think or are you just
>HURR DURR ABSOLUTE LAW IS BAD
>HURR DURR CHAOS IS SCAWY
the world needs a new order, humans just screw everything up when left alone, humans are weak and don't live forever, there's no reason to fight for a world where humans reign, they would just kill each other over and over.
i think this sums up a lot of neutral fags. i go neutral in most games, biggest exception being nocturne where i went TDE
Yeah,because a order where demons are free to roam the world and kill/rape anyone sure sounds great.
>b-but muh mindless sheep
>implying Lucifer wont become YHVH 2.0 if he wins.
>implying any of us would survive a world of Chaos
>being illogical and supporting a weak jealous disgusting being.
Nothing is ever absolute. Like in SMT4, a Law Hero rises in a Chaos World, and a Chaos Hero rises in a Law World.
The best path is to end it all, or to prevent either worlds from forming. It can always be worse.
> Tfw I have checked the Eshop every night when I sleep and every morning when I wake up after for EU SMT IV.
> Tfw nothing yet.
Just give us a fucking solid release date, I BEG YOU ATLUS.
LATE OCTOBER OFFICIALLY FUCKING STARTS IN 4 DAYS.
YOU BETTER FUCKING RELEASE IT.
When the other two options are:
Transforming into a mindless robot for the sake of god
Having to survive on a world where super powerful entities do whatever the fuck they want
It does achieve something, delaying the end of the world.
They have some elements in common, like discarding those that they consider useless to die. Whether that usefulness is based on obedience to YHVH or pure brute strength is different, but the heavenly hosts DID pick Yosuga, which is by Chiaki's design a world based on survival of only those with brute strength.
Take dictatorships as an example, left or right ideology but they end up being more of less the same.
Another example, left and right extremist groups, the idea at the end might be different but the actions are really the same.
>left extremist group
>borderline complete state control, forced social equality at the cost of real justice, entrepeneurs cannot exist
>right extremist group
>borderline no state at all, no equality programs, instead uphold the concept of real justice, entrepeneurship opportunities galore
How are those even remotely similar?
Since you're using just left and right, I'm naturally ignoring the libertarian and statist axis, and applying the default concept of left wing being statist communism and right wing being minarchist capitalism.
So what's the chance of us ever getting another home console SMT game?
Hopefully on the Wii U alongside FExSMT
the end result of basically all ideology is totalitarianism
Well, sometimes it sure feels like it when I read anything politically charged on the internet
I agree that the simplest totalitarianism is statism-based. I think one of the few right-winged things that can be considered totalitarianism is fascism, and even then, the Germans were kind of enjoying the fact that their country wasn't shit.
Fascism is a third-way ideology.
It advocates state control of the economy.
It's not even close to being far-right.
Some modern marxists try to imply it as a right-wing ideology, but that makes zero sense.
How is it possible that fat Jewish bankers, fearful for the state of the economy, would think "oh, let's just place ourselves in concentration camps, and voila, capitalism is saved."
FYI, Stalin was on fascism's side until he realized that it was an inherently middle-class movement.
Neither exclusively bourgeois, nor exclusively proletariat.
It's one of the reasons why he eventually allied with the west. Then, later, made propaganda to try and pin Fascism and Nazism on capitalists.
Its not, but a lot of people do ultimately simply have authoritarian ideas that they think that if they spin just right "don't count." One of the first things you learn about most "anarchists" is that they want things a certain way, one which often doesn't really have free speech, and think that authoritarianism "doesn't count" if you posit it as self regulating mob justice that conforms to your ideology. An ideology which coincidentally most people don't have, but in this world you imagine everyone being made to comply with it somehow. Early anarchists of course were more open also about threatening with literal violence and death, and had tenuous descriptions about whether this would be indefinite.
Which is something you'll notice about law. Half the time, it doesn't actually say anything about direct top down governments. In IV there are no leaders by the end. In II there's nothing but a messiah who is more of a guide / source of inspiration than a leader who gives orders, and you directly topple single authorities not once, but twice, including for the end boss. Yet even pro law people don't shirk from admitting that it represents it as something which skirts close to authoritarian logic when done wrong.
Now I have you with me, under my power
Our love grows stronger now with every hour
Look into my eyes, you'll see who I am
My name is Lucifer, please take my hand
I guess in the end, Hitler really was right.
>Not keeping up to date on the new Pokegirls
You gay, son of man?
>Fascism is a third-way ideology.
>It advocates state control of the economy.
>It's not even close to being far-right.
The problem is that left and right mean different things that some people insist overlap, and other people keep separate. So discussions about who is left and right are often meaningless semantics. Obviously far leftists who have a specific ideology often try to define more left as their specific ideology even down to the dubious or unrelated specifics, and then insist more left is more good. So by that logic, more right is more bad, so therefore max bad is far right.
what would happen if you stuck your dick in one of tiamat's nipples?
>So by that logic, more right is more bad, so therefore max bad is far right.
Which is why they try constantly to pin fascism and nazism on far right.
Because they want to spread the notion that it's max bad, even though it makes zero sense at all.
To be honest, discussing politics on a single axis nowadays is a shitfest.
In order to actually make any sense, you have to use the left/right axis alongside the statist/liberal or libertarian axis.
Some people talk about a third axis, but I haven't quite understood the necessity for it yet.
>You will never lick Yumiko's thighs in the 3rd dimension