Happy Birthday SJ!
>Starter guide
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>Tips and tricks
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http://smtg.booru.org/
>Recommended Reading
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Previous Thread: >>82606750
Fumi's fumis
>>82898501
i want to fuck mastema
>>82898501
congrats SJ.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOyJt1cn9L8
thread music
post space marines
>>82898910
>Not making the .gif Goblin digging the hole with Space Marine and a Pixie watching
>>82898910
>>82898501
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>>82898738
Is there an official US release date for Break Record? I can't wait any longer.
i should do a crewmember run of SJ someday
has anyone here played with the boss exclusive demons?(jiminez, gore, etc
>>82898910
Post what you think is best 2D Field/World Map Theme
Here's mine: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Go0JWfE9nEw
>inb4 nocturnebabby
>>82897232
What did it in for me was that you had to keep backtracking from place to place and the dull empty battles, holy shit Nocturne spoiled me with those rad animations.
>>82899109
>>82899253
Still waiting. Come up here with me, and we'll fly while we wait.Oh, we'll fly, all right...No homo
>>82899073
Is this suppose to be a smiley face?
>>82899315
Yes. They're not particularly good.
>>82899337
>Dat Zelenin and Power in the middle of it all
Adorable as fuck.
would he survive the schwarzwelt
>>82899536
Would he have a Demonica? Same answer.
>>82899315
Yes. I even have a full Mother Playthrought.
>>82899386
Yes.
>>82899319
Then drop it, dungeons become even more frustrating later on.
>Haven't played SJ yet
>Don't get anything in the thread
>>82899337
>>82899493
Zelenin is best girl.
has anyone ever thought of a FPS SMT?
i'm remembering how colorful SJ was and I thought it'd be a really fun place to run aroundand die inon a shooter.
I can't imagine how summoning or item mechanics would work though. Has anyone ever made an FPS with an emphasis on followers ala pikmin?
>>82899340
Maybe a lil homo
>>82899694
You better start asap.
>>82899702
>>82899823
I've considered making a doom mod for it.
But then I remembered I can't sprite (or do anything artistic) to save my life
>>82899665
pretty nice g.
did you mitama skills into all of them? if so did you ration the 6 mitamas to one demon or make a new crewmember when necessary?
>>82900087
When i got them they were level 1, since the base level for them is 75 or so they will level up rather fast so what i did was just give them certain skills and then change them every now and then (Wich meant grind some formas) for bosses or hard enemies.
Gore was phys, Jimenez was Gun/supprt and Zelenin mag/heal.
The mothers work the same too.
>>82899953
Use the pre-existing sprites? Would probably look like crap though, resized and lacking animations.
>>82900369
Full list pls?
Post your favorite Demon, /smtg/
>>82900602
Could your dick say no to Lucifer?
>>82900842
>>82900842
I don't think I can choose a favorite, but out of the ones I like the most Beelzebub is up there.
>>82900642
>>82899953
Purely gameplay-focused mods are also an option, you know. There's this awesome Metroid mod for Doom that was made a while back; I played it in combination with this one level mod called Back to Saturn X and it was fucking amazing.
>>82900842
Can I just take the entire heavenly host?
>>82900872
Yes, i am____Lawafter all.
>>82901079
10/10.
>>82900872
i want to fuck old lucy.
>>82901046
I swear, Nadja and Lillim look an awful lot alike...
>>82900369
>>82901091
that looks absolutely amazing
that's definitely doable
>>82900842
Parvati is my demonfu.
>>82901048
what the fuck is in his ass
>>82901596
You don't like your girls well-done?
>>82901596
agreed
>>82900602
i didn't realize mine was edited, does anyone have the original?
>>82901323
now that you mention it.
Yeah i suppose Kaneko thought of her when redesigning her.
>>82901510
It was a most excellent mod. It even had a working Morph Ball mode with bombs and powerbombs, and there were missile combos too. Blowing shit away with a Wavebuster combo never got old. This is the aftermath of firing a couple of Wavebusters on a massive group of enemies.
>>82901637
thats a fly dick
for depositing
semen
>>82902050
just put the demon sprites.
>>82902050
I have the Metroid mod in my backlog right after Knee-Deep in ZDoom, which I'm playing now.
Even after all these years Doom still has a lot to offer.
hey, is the person ripping SJ textures still here? i wanna ask how that's going
I want a pair of white hot pants.
>>82902543
THE DARK SOULS OF PERSONA
>>82902543
>>82902543
FUCK YOU! FOR BOTHERING ME ABOUT THAT AND REMINDING THAT I PROCRASINATE ALOT, I'M DELETING THEM! I HOPE YOU'RE HAPPY FUCKBOY!
>>82902938
go away gideon
>>82902895
Imagine the Persona of Dark Souls
>>82903397
i think you're onto something here.
>>82903001
I don't get it
Japanese otaku humor is so strangejourney
>>82903231
>>82903241
FUCK OFF! YOU'RE PUSHING MY BUTTONS! ANYMORE AND I'LL DELETE THE REST OF MY PROJECTS AND IT'LL BE ALL YOUR FAULTS NIGGERS!
>>82903397
>>82903463
i don't get it either anon
Anyone has some batshit overpowered demon recipes to share for SMTIV?
>>82902362
I'm liking that HUD.
>>82902412
I've yet to play Knee-deep in ZDoom, but I've heard good things about it. In fact, I have a lot of Doom mods to catch up on...I only recently played Plutonia. Was blown away at how good it was.
>>82900369
>>82900602
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>>82901863
>>82903001
Need more of these!
Where's the rest?!
Link if you have it.
>>82903543
How does it happen when you choose "Proceed"?
Also, that pic is awesome.
>>82903668
>What I wouldn't give to see a group of cosplayers as Jack's Squad, complete with Black Demonicas.
>>82903715
Barong + Rangda
>>82903785
sorry anon, I got all these comics from /smtg/
>>82904001
Least you saved em. Thanks.
>>82901401
>aren't you going to eat hamburgers
My sides
>>82904190
Why yes, your sides look delicious...
>>82904001
fun/10
>Having a demon waifu
I hope you guys haven't fallen so low.That includes you Anthony.
>>82904435Need more lewds of Isabeau like this. Saved.
>>82904435
>Not having Hua Po as your waifu.
>>82904435
>not having a demon waifu
You aren't ready
>>82904520
SUP.
I AM HUA PO.
>>82904517
Everyone does.
>>82904520
>>82904682
At least they're neutral.
WAIT A SECOND, WHERE'S MIRAI ANON?
>>82904845
Be quiet Thomas.
>>82904845
RIP in peace.
>>82904845
On a Strange Journey, no doubt.
Moh Shuvuu is mai demonfu
>>82904960
>Being a lolicon
Inexcusable, even Moh Shuvuu thinks so.
>>82904960
Great taste, even better since she's Law.
>>82904960Should we sexualize the Moh Shuvvu?
>>82904520
hell yeah
>>82905316
Where do you guys even get those pics from?
Don't mind me, just grinding in Yoyogi Park, FocusShotting all these Titanias before they even spawn as reinforcements.Have Focus up before taking out the wave, Titanias in the next wave, Divine One-Shot, auto the rest unless they're Oberon. Profit
>>82905408
Wait, she's that small? I thought she was bigger.
>tfw dinsey buys atlus
>>82905536
she's about the size of a pixie as I remember.
Do we know why SM IV was delayed so long in Europe? Shits pretty ridiculous, glad I'm american.
>>82905134
>lawfags are lolicon
Not even remotely surprised.
>>82905536
She is bigger, way bigger, she has the size of a child.
>>82905640
Nobody cares about Europe.
>>82905667
"she is the size of a child"
>>82905512
I got it from some faggot Persona thread on /v/, only good thing that came out of it.
>>82905646
Does that mean chaosfags like milfs? I'm fine with that.
>>82905810
Dude what about us Neutrals?
>>82905883
They like men. They're always babbling on about it.
>>82905810
yes.
>>82905883
How can you claim to be neutral when you clearly have an opinion that leans one way or the other?
>>82905810
No, we manly chaos man like the smell and taste of the law boypussi.
>>82906171
That's the glory of Chaos, freedom! I'll take my mother goddess milfs, and you can go and ravage lawful boypussy.
>>82906395
thats a man.
>>82906550
I dont see a dick here.
>>82906550
That's exactly what chaosfags like, sweaty and violent men.
>>82906550
Demon forms are malleable. She's all goddess now, don't be such a prude.
>>82906775
>sweaty and violent man
Sounds a lot like YHVH.
>>82907167
>Implying a floating head has a gender
>Implying he is violent and not 100% rational
>>82907359
>chaosfags accusing the strongest entity of being violent despite their whole ideology is about strong people having the right to do violence.
>Yhvh only does just enough violence to make the peace we know today last forever anyways.
>>82905810
>Does that mean chaosfags like milfs?
at least in SJ
which has the only chaos ending that i liked anyway
>>82907359
YHVH is referred as a "he" abbunch of times
>>82907359
>Always referred to in the masculine
>Kneejerk reaction to worshiping the "wrong" gods is genocide
>Satan says maybe genocide is overboard
>"Insolent worm! Feel the wrath of my divine lightning and plummet into the bowels of hell, burning in its unending flames! Demons! Evil humans, who hath sold thy souls to demons!
Im gonna change this rotten world.
>>82907917
I'm gonna erase this rotten world.
>>82907167
I need more sexy pics of Asherah
>>82907912
>The bad version of him is his standard qualities.
>canonically stated to not be his own fault.
>>82907912
yhvh is gender fluid
>>82907731
Lucifer in his true, twelve-winged form is the strongest entity according to Kaneko.
>>82902938
>>82908027
>>82907858
>Liked SJs chaos ending.
>Lets all sit around punching eachother in a forest and piling up bodies in pools of blood next to our altar. We apparently don't even have enough health knowledge to know we're giving ourselves disease.
>>82908093
He never said that. He just said that he does indeed have a stronger 12 winged secret form.
Which IV kind of contradicts as he said his alien matador form is his "truest" form, lmao.
>>82908203
>Worrying about disease
>When literal gods and goddesses are nearby to provide for you
And no, they wouldn't let their worshipers suffer and die. They look after their own, humans are great sources of strength.
>>82908203
in a wurld of str you punch diseases in the dick.
>>82908376
>And no, they wouldn't let their worshipers suffer and die.
>They look after their own
>Chaos.
>They literally say those who are supposed to die will die in the ending.
>they talk about how this is was in the past
>the past meaning back when people died of disease
Are you right in the head, m8?
>>82908340
SMT IV'snot canon
DAMN! SO MUCH MACCA AND EXP FROM THESE TITANIAS!
The Gogmagogs in White Temple will give more, and spawn with Titanias!
I wanna finish Yoyogi Park already but I can't stop myself from going on Riberama-induced killing sprees!
I'm level 58 and I still haven't fought Grimehkala yet!
>SJ isn't called SMT IV: Strange Journey
>>82908562
No, the past meaning back when demons and humans lived together on earth. And the only diseases back then are always divine pestilences. Disease of the body and land were a reflection of humanities flaws shown in the Schwarzwelt, which the Chaos ending aimed to fix.
The point of it is that humans would go back to a primal but pure way of life, where competition and dispute are solved directly. Where the strongest are raised on a pedestal and the weak are given up in sacrifice to the gods. Not a world where most people get sick and die of dysentery regardless of personal strength.
>>82909596
So in other words its a completely shit world, but they pretend that its somehow okay because they pretend that the natural disasters that constantly happen are deliberate just because the gods are like "you STR, bro?" The neutral gods who don't want you to live in squalor that you pretend muscles that you could have anyways make up for seem a lot nicer.
Well?
>>82908420
>>82908376
>>82908203
Let's cut the shit, and get to the main point that both Law and Chaos have in common no matter what, and what Neutral never does.
>>82909813
>>82909596
>>82908562
>>82910073
DIC
>>82910073
Yoyogi
>>82910110
I have no clue what you're saying. Do you speak english?
>>82910073
Hawk/Aleph
But seriously, name him SMTG
I want to fuck Mirai
>>82910353
you are late, fag.
>>82910110
Go away Serph, you're inferior to your data copy.
>>82909813
>So in other words its a completely shit world
Its a utopia bro. All you need to survive and thrive is at your finger tips and all you need is the strength of will to take it.
>but they pretend that its somehow okay because they pretend that the natural disasters that constantly happen are deliberate just because the gods are like "you STR, bro?"
They would have to be deliberate. The mother goddesses are completely in tune with the land, and the only reason they would have to show their strength if if you tried to turn from the wild freedom they've provided humanity with to the cold worship of law. Much better than the land going out of control at random.
>The neutral gods who don't want you to live in squalor that you pretend muscles that you could have anyways make up for seem a lot nicer
Neutral gods are free to take up claims and have their own communities of worship. That's the beauty of freedom.
>>82910353
Bout time you showed up! Kept us waiting, huh?
>>82910197
Let me explain this more clearly.
>To Law and Chaos, mankind are just tools, used as means to their own end(ing)s.
>Neutral is bro towards all mankind, doesn't take advantage of or manipulate anybody, like Law Brainwashing or Chaos Bloodlust.
>>82910540
Not true at all.
A neutral person may step all over/manipulate others to get what he wants. See dark-neutral
>>82910651
Yes, but Neutral as a whole does it to a far lesser (if at all) extent than both Law AND Chaos.
>>82910540
>go neutral
>get is mom eaten
>his dog lost
>kill your only friends
>get killed in a cave by the people that you saved
>>82910428
>>82910540
Didn't realize a new thread was up
>>82910478
mem aleph being light neutral always fascinated me
does anyone think her influence on the MC might make the chaos future less awful?
>>82910741
>Even on Chaos route you couldn't get with Lilith
That was the true travesty of it all.
>>82910741
>Already read this copypasta
>Still get feels from it every time
Never change, Cave-in Anon.
Never change.
>>82910864
Yup. But wouldn't you get severe STDs from her?And would they be worth fucking Lilith and having loads of children with her?
>>82910797
Maybe. But you gotta take the alignments the Demonica gives them with a grain of salt.
>>82910797
She's as Chaos as anything. Password demon stats that you aren't particularly meant to see aren't canon. Otherwise when Jimenez becomes a full demon he turns neutral too.
>>82911031
>>82911039
She is displayed as neutral in her status bar during the fight.
is awake jiminez a half demon?
does that put him in the same field as demifiend? I haven't played nocturne so I don't know how/why he got his powers
>>82911151
>>82911039
>>82910797
>>82911031
How have to realize that what a demon's alignment is listed as isn't always congruent to how they actually are.
Mem Aleph represents ancient mother earth goddesses, so she'd be light, because they were worshiped.
For instance, Thor is Light, but he doesn't act so in SMT 1.
>>82911272
We're talking about the Neutral bit, not the Light bit.
>>82911202
most like half half demon.
bugaboo wasn't a full demon even.
>>82911272
http://megamitensei.wikia.com/wiki/Alignment
huh, that makes a lot more sense.
thanks!
>>82911202
Well, demi-fiend is strong due to the magatama.
>>82908203
>Lets all sit around punching each other in a forest and piling up bodies in pools of blood next to our altar.
>not worshipping glorious Aztec gods like they intended
>Eridanus
Just
>Eridanus
>>82912120
i am ok with that
>>82912271
>imploding eranidus isn't the best dungeon in the game
>>82912802
>implying its not the best dungeon in any game.
How do i get a qt demon gf
>>82914226
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/Incubus.html
>>82914352
I aint reading this shit nigga cant you upload the program to the dds.net
>>82914352
>First off, it is important to perform a ritual to Father Satan
but satan is a grill
>>82915672
Just because he has tits doesn't mean he's a girl.
>>82914352
>Incubus
hell no.
Which singular route has been your favorite in all of SMT? Which alignment and game?
>>82918068
neutral SJstrike team are the best redshirts in gaming history, and arthur is goat, plus it leaves the door open for SMTIV
I think that butthurt-casual-smt-fan-anon isn't really seeing the bigger picture. A lot of people would be interested to know that a good chunk of people who get theology degrees or even participate as actual theologians are not members of the religions that the degree is for. Many of them are even atheists. What it is is that while modern analytical philosophy studies often only individual concepts, it doesn't really get into entire worldviews except in vague ways. And this is expected to be supplied elsewhere. Many nonreligious people use existentialism or continental philosophy full worldviews as a kind of replacement religion, or try to spin something else as one, but an interesting thing a lot of people such as death of god theologians do is to take the lifestyle philosophy from religions and posit that its accurate (or useful for lifestyle philosophy) even if the religion isn't literally true.
And that's the thing with all of megaten. It has a rich super-theological framework composed of not even just one, but many religions, as well as a message of having to find and accept your place in the universe. So the study of it is almost like hyper-theology and substantially useful lifestyle philosophy in that it exposes you into the inter-playing of three parallel and opposing religious and philosophical constructs designed to represent positions on things as a whole. So its useful in the way that the christian atheist finds christian theology useful.
>>82918068
II Law.
>>82918297
Wish there was more fan art of them.
>>82918808
>analytical philosophy
Continental master race.
>>82918808
>christian atheists
u wot
>>82919461
You probably know them by the related name cultural Christians. Although cultural christian could simply mean an identity rather than a philosophy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_atheism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_God_theology
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOKyf_7J6sA
>>82918808
Demons and God in SMT are more of ideas than they are literal. They represent ideologies, where "God" is the collective, and "demons" are people willing to push forward to accomplish shit for themself. So the whole narrative of humans deciding for themselves is basically arbitrarily deciding that those ones "don't count." The demons literally say that they're born from humans wanting the ideology they give too. So killing them is literally killing human ideology. The narrative basically breaks down entirely, and it comes off like hypocritically defining certain things as alien just to not have to consider them.
>>82918808
beadman you might be nuts but
> it exposes you into the inter-playing of three parallel and opposing religious and philosophical constructs designed to represent positions on things as a whole.
you have a very good point, smt is probably where a lot of non japanese were first introduced to eastern religion and philosophy, the appreciation of which makes a lot of new stuff to think about.
>>82919275
>continental philosophy
>Phenomenology: Its offensive to point out that the subconscious exists and that people don't know why they do things, to lets just let them insist that they all know everything there is to know about their own minds.
>Existentialism: I really hate my mom, and really am obsessed with being "unique" and "living my own life" and "doing my own thing.
>Post-structuralism: I embody all the worst aspects of the two above, but also want to force other people to comply with my whims without needing real reasons for them to think they should.
>>82919774
>The demons literally say that they're born from humans wanting the ideology they give too
No they don't. They literally say they created humans. Stop saying wrong things.
>>82907912
>>82903231
i think kaneko had a certain something in mind while designing these two.
something special.
>>82919963
Phenomenology = Law
Existentialism = Chaos
Post structuralism= Neutral
>>82920135
>>82920024
Someone decided that that text is a meme and posts it every week now.
Also, what you're saying isn't really contradicting it, since its about themes, not about whether demons "actually exist" in universe. The demons say more than enough to get the idea that its meant to be able to interpret them both as literal and non literal beings. They say they made humans, but sometimes humans make them. They say yhvh made the universe, but also usurped it. Etc. If you interpret both versions of every contradiction as accurate, then you have to interpret it very specifically.
>>82920135
Speaking of designing them, why is there drawings of every demon in II, but not yhvh? Did he even make drawings for yhvh?
>>82920469
No, the only "creation" humanity does is through being large sources of magnetite in the form of worshipers and sacrifices. If a demon is popular with humans then said demon becomes powerful thanks to the influx of magnetite. If a large enough group of humans worship a concept then a demon will come and become the object of their worship for the power. This is the concrete relationship between demons and humans.
>>82920778
Hell, there's even ones of the avatars.
>>82919774
Why are you still posting this biased pasta? Why are people still replying to it?
>>82921007
The bead is strong.
>edgy
>>82920907
Sure, if you ignore that they say they'll only "exist" as long as humans believe in them, and the fact that worshiping them directly gives them power is to emphasize that their power is the power of humans who follow those ideas, in persona they directly say that they're created by the minds of humans, in iv johnathan says god exists because humans "need" a god, the metaphor makes it obvious that its referring to ideas, in iv as well as some of the remakes they say that when not manifest they "live inside human minds" as "hopes and dreams" among other things. And neutral gets away with not being seen as committing any genocides despite often genociding demons, since "that doesn't count," implying that in some sense they're meant to be seen as manifest forms of ideas.
Yes, there's a ton of things that emphasize that they actually exist too. But how independent their existence is is up for grabs, especially since even if in game they have some its obviously still meant to be obvious that to the player they're from the player's perspective metaphors for ideas, and the people who follow them, not just random aliens that "do shit." So this leaves the issue that one might be lying, or that you have to find a way to rationalize that both interpretations are somehow accurate. Which is possible to do in the same way that it can be possible that yhvh is the creator, but also an usurper, if not that one of those is merely a side lying to you.
>>82922070
It doesn't even look good. What the fuck is on its head? Why were the guest artists so retarded.
>>82922179
0/10 bait
>>82922276
>>82922070
Also its stomach has muscles, but its face is a skeleton. What am I even looking at.
>Ouroboros
>Barely doing enough damage to get past its regeneration
>This was not a good idea
>Disaster Cycle
>Petrified
Well fuck you too
>>82902362
doom already has demon sprites, just add a negotiation system
>>82922680
In my opinion Ouroboros was much easier boss than Asura. Then again, as soon as I got immunity from stone I never took it off because that's the most BS way to die in that game.Demons with bomb ailment ambushing you is another but that's way more rare than instagib petrification
>>82922680
ouroboros is a fucking asshole, try dantalian or any demon that has null phys or can reflect magic
Debuff it and wish for luck with reflecting. I think its weak to fire, so if you can get an alignment team to spam fire you're somewhat better off. Good luck!every boss from it on is just as hard
>>82922683
the SJ textures would go a long way in doom, I think, even if they were the wrong resolution.
>>82923085
>every boss from it on is just as hard
So this is the reward I get after that insanely annoying dungeon. My hunger has found a tough rock to bite for the first time.
>>82923323
Don't be a bitch ass messiah, anon.
>>82923323
>insanely annoying
>eridanus
but the music is great and the fights aren't that hard. I enjoyed solving the teleport puzzles toountil I hit a point where I needed to find a secret door and got stuck for a looooooong time
>>82923323
>So this is the reward
>this kills the player
>>82923323
To be fair not EVERY boss is that hard. But there are a few which are much harder.
>>82904682
I want them Titttytania titties
>>82899694
I haven't either anon, it's OK.
>>82923085
>>82922683
>>82899953
the soundtrack sounds like it might not work too well with a fast paced FPS
i googled around and found these
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHWVQfU6U_Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bX5honTVylg
they go together strangely
>>82908069
He'll turn YOU into gender fluids that's for sure faggot
lilith is chaos-only in SMTIV right? no way to get her in neutral?
>>82903463
>>82903668
>sound unnatural yet flawless
i guess they're calling her a vocaloid? and since hes japanese he likes it? idk...
>>82901869
kaneko's nadja design doesn't look like lilim
>>82918808
>>82919963
>>82919593
>>82920907
>>82922179
STOP POSTING BEAD FAGGOT
>>82925758
Not even all of those were me.
>>82925758
One of those was anti-bead.
>>82918068
I loved SJ Law. Zelenin and the angel's involvement was cool, powerful agents acting in deep enemy territory. The Law choices seemed pretty natural to choose, and Zelenin was a lot more likable than whiny baby Jimenez and she was cute as hell. Also recruiting Demiurge on a Law playthrough is cool as shit.
And the ending is the perfect mix of creepy, alien and yet utopian. It gave me the feeling that I was putting Law back on its feet, and turning everyone's plans on their head.
>the last female smt protag was made one of the developer's canon waifu
In IS, whenever Tamaki is like GOSH WHY DID I EVER FALL FOR THIS GUY :))))
I'm just disgusted and think, because he wrote you that way...
>>82911031
>>Already read this copypasta
>>Still get feels from it every time
It's because we all love Hero so much.
>>82928245
>>82923936
i remember seeing an angel wearing a mask like this
does anyone know what inspired mastema's design? it looks really, really familiar, i feel like i've seen something like it at an orthodox church or around one
>>82918816
Yeah.
>>82925505
I know but the redesigns do share some similarities.
>>82928508
At least she wasnt erased from all excistance like her male version was, people complain about FemMC being ignored but that guy had it harder.
>>82929203
if male tamaki wanted to be canon, he shouldve been a waifu
Shin Megami Tensei: if...: Protagonist
Shin Megami Tensei: if... Hazama's Chapter: Playable Character
Shin Megami Tensei: Kahn: Male protagonist as Nobu
Megami Ibunroku Persona: Minor Character
Persona 2: Innocent Sin: Minor Character
Persona 2: Eternal Punishment: Minor Character
Shin Megami Tensei x Fire Emblem
>>82928508
>the last female smt protag
>>82930452
>>82930836
>that giant head
No thanks.
>>82931593
Would you say that to your Lord and Creator as well?
>>82931760
Would I not?
>>82908340
Lucifer has said he's had a truest form before.
Don't believe his bullshit when he says he has a true form. Unless you basically learn of it from other sources he won't admit to it, just like Mara won't admit to being a girl unless you already know.
>>82928245
Jimenez was my bro.
Zelenin was Mastema's pawn.
>>82933394
She admits it in SJ though.
>>82933631
After Grendel tells you that she's a goddess and she learned that you know.
>>82933812
But she didnt know it.
Guy from the other day that was looking for the guy that does crazy SMT challenges. Found his channel if anyone else is interested. This one is him beating Satan in 2 turns
http://youtu.be/tkEUgsYRVw8
>>82933853
I thought for sure that she did.
Maybe I should go back and play that quest again as it has been awhile, but I'm pretty sure they mentioned it.
what's the lowest acceptable amount of demons you could have in an SMT game
100? 200?
>>82934167
I think you are right, she mentions something about SM thinking he spected a beautiful Goddess or something (You even have a choice there i think). However i think thats only in the chaos path since in the law you get information about her by Seraph.
>>82934359
Whatever the ammount Raidou 2 or Nocturne had, i dont really like too many demons like 4 or SJ had given most of them were usellss and i was pretty much forced to collect them.
>>82934664
Yeah it was the chaos path.
>>82934148
>dealing thirty fucking thousand damage in two rounds of combat
I need to see this to believe it.
>>82900872
I don't think it could even if my life depended on it
Decided to pop in my copy of DeSu OC after a year of not playing it... I'm pretty proud of what I did
>>82935657
I have to say I like his art. He even has a Asherah pic on his twitter.
Though while he likes some designs I don't from IV, he at least doesn't drawn the shittiest design, which is Lucifers first form.
>>82935847
>>82936012
>That feel when you cant draw to save your life.
I wish i was a drawfag.
>>82936145
Me to bro
I just want to be able to draw lucifer family portraits
>>82935847
You have a link to the artist's twitter? I just saved that pic from the booru
>>82936145
I also wish I could draw.
Then I could draw art of my favorite designs that don't have much of it.
This artist really likes the Zoroastrian ones.
>>82936229
http://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=53092
Has his website and his twitter. His pixiv one has a really huge image of the Zoroastrian demons together.
>>82936229
Whoever drew this is pretty good.
>>82936412
Yeah I like that one a lot. I want an updated one with Hikaru even though she would clearly be the bastard child of the bunch
>>82935657
>tfw there will never be a lucifer with tits this glorious
>>82937792
fumi's fumis.
>>82938137
Fumi's great, but they're not glorious enough.
>>82928717
>>82922680
>>82922986
>>82923085
>>82923323
Just beat her 1st form.
After Acid Breath + Rakunda + Fog Breath on her, and 3 Rakukajas on my party...
Yeah gonna have to grind to 45 for sure.
>>82941865
What alignment are you? There are many good Law Demons that you can use to beat Ouroboros.
I suggest to grind to level 49, just solo with MC and it shouldnt take too long.
I don't know if it's even possible to make a recruit system in RPG Maker, much less fusion, but making SMT dungeons with this first-person script is pretty fun.
>>82942587
That looks impressive anon.
I remember watching a video of some guy making a fusion system so i think it can be done.
Here is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLsMPeRmuCg
>>82942587
DAMN! That's cool as fuck.
what ifpersona 5 locked the girlfriend routes of the female slinks to normal difficulty or above, to force shitters to get gud at more than the waifu simulator?
>>82943035
Woah, one could make an easy SMT engine in RPG Maker with those scripts and the first-person one I'm using.
But I'm not really interested in them, I just wanted to use those SMT textures and maybe recreate a simple dungeon.
>>82944338
Trying to recreate Strange Journey dungeons is not easy, though. Like I explained in the last thread, there are very few wall and ground textures, with many sprites and effects pasted over them.
Recreating SMT1 and SMT2 would be a lot easier, and I know Canzah ripped the PS1 textures, but I cannot find them anywhere.
>>82928508
>I'm just disgusted and think, because he wrote you that way...
Actually, wrong. It's because of his badass Kyouji suit.
>>82944587
What if P5 completely abandoned every single shitty slice of life aspect of P3/4? What if we got a game with dungeon crawling as insane as Persona 1, with a cast as great as P2?
>>82946779
why not just make the slice of life stuff better? I dunno how but someone out there must know how to
>>82946779
Because ATLUS knows they just have to copy the current P3&4 formula and they will sell those games forever.
At this rate the only things they will improve are waifus and slice of life aspects.
>>82946918
Slice of Life is always garbage, though.
>>82944587
Or what if they removed the waifu shit altogether?
>>82947021
I know, but I just want it better to justify it more. I do like how it helps with the whole persona obtaining and vice-versa, but it just needs to be better. if you're gonna add a bunch of side characters, make at least 80% of their little stories enjoyable
>>82947021
>implying
>>82947307
I love pachinko.
>>82942587
oh man that's fucking awesome
please share the textures if you can when you're done, I wanna try playing with DOOM wads
>>82929109
What does this say
>>82936412
You're missing someone in that pic
>>82947141
It would be even better if major character development wasn't relegated to little side stories and was instead say, tied to plot events or something. Leave all the little extra details like their fetishes, dreams etc for the social links, but major development and character arcs should not be shoved to the side. Considering Persona games are so character-centric, it made zero sense for Persona 4 to do a total backflip and suddenly tie 3/4 of a character's development to their social links. It made even less sense when you realised that none of the development that occured during their social links was brought up at any time during the story at all.
>>82952407
agreed 100%. I just can't think of a better alternative method for s-links to matter more
>>82951278
I have only ripped three Fornax textures (ground, wall1, wall2), and most don't even look nice for a texture replacement in, let's say, Doom.
It's really easy to do it yourself, though.
You only need a Strange Journey rom and Tinke.
Open the SJ rom with Tinke, go to Data > Dungeon > Model, select any .nsbmd file (the only viewable files in that folder anyway) and select View.
Then you will see two scrolling menus on the right, Texture and Palette. Keep looking through the Texture list (the palette is selected automatically) to view them. You can extract via Save Texture or screen print.
Notice how they are sorted by prefixes. "d0#" are sectors, so "d01" is Antlia, "d02" is Bootes, etc. "d09" is Jack Squad HQ.
"dim2", "dim3", "dk01", "dk02" and "dk03" are Phase Shift textures.
Needless to say "elev" is Elevators, "exit" is the Red Sprite image in every sector's entrance, "term" is Terminals and "title" is the snow and ship textures in the title and intro.
Tinke is a Spanish program, so it'll probably be in Spanish by default, but it has English and French too in the Languages menu.
>>82952768
You're doing God's work anon.
>>82954487
Is that the P4 protagonist as an angel?
>>82954487
why are the damn ongyoki so hard to find in dds? I've only encountered one in the past hour
>>82957646
Noise farming for Demi-fiend? There's a reason it's recommended to dump all of Serph's levels into ST/AG, you know.
>>82957867
He has 99 everything. Cielo and Agrilla are gonna be short by the time I hit lvl 99. I guess I'll roll with it, these damn guys aren't showing up.
>>82957867
They are really rare. You could try to estoma have a lvl 70 average, but you'd properly just run into Samaels.
Demifiend victory depends on how lucky you are more than anything so don't sweat maxing out everything
>>82958161
You might actually still be able to work around that. Do Cielo and Argilla have 99 MA, or will they by the time they hit lvl 99? If so, just have them deal damage via Celestial Ray/Last Word instead.
To be fair, the only stats you NEED at 99 are VI/MA for the extra defense and magic defense, since the higher those stats are the less damage of that type you take. 99 LU is actually almost detrimental for Cielo, because one of the "easiest" strategies used for beating Demi-fiend involves having Cielo put to sleep before Gaea Rage. The other involves locking down his Pixie/Arahabaki with buff/debuff spam, skipping the Mediarahan and preventing all but the first Gaea Rage. Of course, the latter strategy is incredibly MP-heavy so Somas and Chakra Pots/Great Chakras will be your friends.
Setanta is clearly the best demon.
>>82959168
I actually just farmed 40 luck incesnse, and by my calculations I should have max stats by 99 for Agrilla and Cielo. I'm gonna monitor cielos gains before I dump all of his luck, I was unaware that luck was not great for him. He has 76 atm. I have a surplus of hp incense, everyone will have max health.
Thanks for the tips
>>82958734
Well, hopefully I'll get lucky ;_;
>>82960601
No love for our fair maiden here?
But yeah, Setanta is a bro. Cu Chullain even more so.
>>82959168
Oh and I do have VIT and MAG maxed, I was just going to be short on str and ag by maybe 10 or so. Thanks again
>>82960967
Kikuri-hime hell yeah!
Which version of Oberon do you guys prefer? Old and fat or skinny pretty-boy?
>>82960810
Luck isn't really that good for anyone, depending on what strategy you use. The method I used was the one that involved stalling Pixie/Arahabaki by forcing them to dispel buffs and debuffs every turn, thus burning Pixie's MP down to nothing. You can keep Arahabaki locked down for the entire fight by repeatedly casting a buff on yourself, forcing it to spend it's turn casting Dekaja. This method ensures one Gaea Rage only, unless you fuck up.
The normal method is a lot tougher and a lot more reliant on luck, since you'll have to survive many Gaea Rages. This is where LU comes into it, since lower LU means a higher chance for Dormina to stick, which means you'll be able to Null Sleep your way through Gaea Rage.
No matter what method you try, the first part of the battle is the hardest by far. Surviving UNTIL that first Gaea Rage hinges on exactly how sadistic Demi-fiend is feeling, and whether or not Girimekhala's Mamudoon sticks. After that first phase of the fight is over, it's (kinda sorta almost maybe) smooth-ish sailing. Good luck.
This just happened.
>>82922456
>not liking based kamen rider monster art
fuck you guys
Damn.
Just found this guy in Eridanus TOP.
He's a bro. Just there to learn shit and write stuff down. Wants me to go map sector floors for an EX Mission.
His design is great too. All those heads...
How quick is she gonna kill me this time?
2nd phase. Oh, boy, Disaster Cycle!
>>82962327
It doesn't fit the SMT aesthetic. Though some are better than others.
>>82900842
>No one ever picks Masakado
>>82963245
>Wave of Death
WHAT IS THIS SHIT?!
WHAT THE FUCK!
>Survive it, "luckily"
>Next turn Bead Chain
>Disaster Cycle
>Space Marine stoned
Yknow, could Pixie be argued as the Heroine to Demi Fiend's Hero in Nocturne?
>>82963804
Heroines usually aren't completely optional past the beginning. I wouldn't say she counts.
>>82961331
Boyish with sweet sword
>>82963804
That's obviously Chiaki.
>>82964096
Fuck you, qt Pixie a best.
>>82922070
Aeshma white and blue appearance honestly looks like it fits the design much better.
That's not saying much, but it doesn't make me gag like Asmodeus.
>>82964226
Yuko is the heroine.
A useless heroine, but a heroine.
Does anyone have any SMT phone wallpapers
>>82966009
Actually, even better does anyone have any SMT wallpapers?
>>82966471
>>82966862
Saving that for the fun of it.
>>82967280The chain was broken on the far right chair, when they released the trailer featuring Parry Hotter
>>82968226
Yup i know what you're doing, keep posting them, you know the ones, that's what i was waiting for.
>>82968182
Yup. So that must mean there's 4 trailers left.
>>82968646
FUCKING HAZAMA
Thanks, that's what i meant by wallpapers, but where's SMT IV's?
>>82971739
>>82977992
Haven't played SMT 4, is that Tokyo Sky Tree?
>>82978329
SMT4 takes place in Tokyo.
>>82978329
Play it and find out nigga.
>>82978329
yes
>hasn't played SMT4have you played Etrian Odyssey 1?
it's SORTA like that. fantasy-ish setting. 'lets explore a dungeon!' you get deeper and deeper and then OH SHIT IT'S TOKYO.
and then the real game begins.
the sky tree goes up into the bedrock canopy, and it's part of the dungeon connecting tokyo and mikado.
>>82978524
Holy shit
>>82978527
>>82978823
>Europe
I have about 70% of the game spoiled but I somehow managed to avoid this part. Thanks anyway.
>>82979169
wait, did you care about spoiling that?
i can't tell if i just ruined the mystery for you.
i did use spoiler tags, so i don't feel that guilty.
sorry that you're european and publishers do a shit job of taking care of your market for these things. i hope you do enjoy it if it does come out for you.
>>82979656
No, don't worry, I was actually surprised I've never bumped into that piece of info. You were nice anon thanks again.
>if
>>82980209
You are a samurai tasked with defeating demons.
Time to confess sinners.I haven beaten a single boss on DDS 1 because i got tired of grinding.
Hey SMTG I have what might be a weird request, I am making an SMT RPG as in a table top RPG, usually I would take anything related to that to /tg/ but I have something SMTG might help me with, is there any big file with the portraits of every or atleast a bigh portion of the games demons maybe ripped from persona or Strange journey I would rather not download every image from the wiki and some demons I think dont have images.
Thanks in advance for any help have some Demi-fiend
>>82991082
I haven't got past the assembly of Nihilo in Nocturne because I got bored
>>82991082
Are you talking about optional bosses? Or did you not even beat the first boss?
>>82992179
Optional.
>>82900842
Use him for as long as I can every game
If you live SMT so much, then why don't you marry it?
>>82910353
What game is Marai in BTW still getting around to pre ps1 / saturn
>>82988657
>Something about Break Record
>>82991524
>tfw someone saved my pic
Feels good man!
And your goal is admirable as fuck. Wish I could help, really.
>big file with the portraits of every or atleast a big portion of the games demons maybe ripped from Persona or Strange Journey
>an SMT RPG as in a table top RPG
Will there be unique ways to die a la Nethack or Zork? I know they aren't tabletop, but come on, the dev teams put tons of detail into those games
>>82991082I have never beaten Shiva OR Vishnu in DDS2I can't stop going on Riberama-induced Titania killing-sprees in Yoyogi Park in Nocturne. I'm still in the first area of the teleport maze for fuck's sake.
Grinding to max out my demons so I can rank them up with Elements
>>82992480
I just asked SMT to marry me. It said yes.
>>82992710
>Unique ways to die
well i was thinking of implementing demon betrayal so if you are a dick (or not enough of a dick demons are fucking finicky) the demon might try to shank you or blow up your comp. Also a shit load of fusion aftereffects or malfunctions. I dont know if those are nethack level since the most memorable death i had in nethack was polymorphin into a blind creature then accidently falling down the stairs
I NEED THE BREAK RECORD
CAN'T LIVE WITHOUT THE BREAK RECORD
>>82993349
RAAAAAIIIIINBOOOOOOWWWW!!!
is aeon the good or bad translation for SMT before I start
Are there any erotic SMT fanfictions?
>>82994718
There's plenty of that for Persona, and all of it's poorly-written.
>>82996106
Anon please, I want to fap
>>82993349
Will this be Break Record Bonus Boss?
>>82996271
If you're a man of standards you will be unable to fap to poorly-written P4 erotica anyway. You ARE a man of standards right?
>>82996730
I am a man of wealth and taste, does that count, Son of Man?Not the same anon
>>82997732
But are you a man of standards, Louis?
>>82998141
But of course, Son of Man!Occasionally, when the mood strikes me, also a Lady of Standards.
I chose him well, here, did I not?
>>82998812
Your secretary form is cuter than Hikaru.
>>82998993
>>82998812
I always wondered why he saw fit to choose the form of a teenage girl for SMT IV.
>>82998993
>>82999157I'm sorry. Lucy is busy on account of ME having raped her senseless!
I can take a message for her, if you'd like.
Or you can tell it to her IN HELL!
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
>>82999339
Damn it Nyarly who the hell keeps letting you out of your cage? Actually, don't answer that. I don't wanna hear whatever contrived answer you'll come up with.
>>82999598He did.I love doing Nyarly posts like these.
Nice to have an excuse to type like a large ham, which is exactly what Nyarly is.
>>82999157
He knows that teen girls are really good at exploitation.
>>83000165
>huge ham
>>82999339
>ME
Shut up Not Nyarly. You aren't even a decent ripoff of the real deal in Ultimax. Hell you rely on Minazuki to come up with all the schemes while taking the credit.
>>83001256
>treating non-canon as canon
>>83001064
>>83001256
>>83001437
Enough talk!
LET'S ROCK!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKJo4uC9o_o
>>83001437
This isn't FeMC or Trinity Soul.
>>82996730
I haven't even played Persona.Original anon
>>83001550
>that feel when you beat DDS1 about 30 minutes ago
I can't escape my hunger for long, soon I'll have to get started on the next one
>>83001889
>Critical Hunger
>>83002015
It took me a fair few tries to actually get that screenshot so that it wasn't a blurry mess.