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>Starter guide
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10886965/smtstarterguide.png

>Tips and tricks
http://pastebin.com/qqxkrWFh

>Artbook, soundtrack, manga, and other downloads
http://pastebin.com/fgVp423S

>Misc. Translations
http://pastebin.com/LHKVLNQB

>Booru
http://smtg.booru.org/

>Recommended Reading
http://pastebin.com/YppqPPjf

Previous Thread: >>80843245
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What's the best place to farm luck noise in DDS2?
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>>81087324
COME ON!
YOUR ASS IS MINE!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVCPSFvNlsY
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2nd for the goddess of the wurld of str
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Something about Break Record
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>>81087980
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>>81088131
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>>81087785
BEST battle theme, I love the DDS OST (゚ 3゚)
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>>81088606
>(゚ 3゚)
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
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>>81087785
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCuOjfyUHnA
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>>81088532
>None of the girls were dfc
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Why is DDS so underrated?
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>>81088606
>(゚ 3゚)
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>>81088708
─=≡Σ((( つ•̀ω•́)つ
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>>81088851
>─=≡Σ((( つ•̀ω•́)つ
saved
(´・ω・`)
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>>81088848
>>81088708
DO NOT reply to posts containing " (゚ 3゚)", it is the official shitposting emote. Report and hide those posts. Please.
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>finally get whole party to 99 in DDS2 in preparation for Satan
>having to farm noise while getting no exp
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>>81088802

well this is Yasuda.
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>>81087980
Fuck off Rasen
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>>81088957
(´・ω・`)
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>>81089214
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>>81089127
I saved all of the Noise items I found during my playthrough and slapped Item Find on my active party while I was Mantra grinding in the room where Shiva and whatsaname's doors are. I've got like, 30 of each Noise item, it's insane.
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>>81089421
"Yo no comprendo" sounds awkward.
I think "No lo comprendo" is the correct phrasing.
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>>81089871
I've had item find on for a while, but, I haven't gotten many of them. I'm grinding near the first large date node in the 6th layer, should I just grind where Shiva/Vishnu's doors are?
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>>81089963
You can try there if you want, sure. Are you using Magic Reeds as well? That really speeds things up. Encounter rates were "fixed" in DDS2 so to speak; reinforcements during battle were stupidly rare in DDS1 even after using a Magic Reed, but in DDS2 they're a lot more common. If you're lucky, you might get multiples of 2-3 types of Noise in a single battle.
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>>81090201
Yeah, I am using them.
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Finally got around to looking at PQ. Does anyone know if you can turn off the VA's? They sound fucking disgusting. I'm not weeb enough to demand Japanese VA, I just want to read the text without people screeching at me.
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>>81089147
We had DFC in DeSu1
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>>81090379
English dub is alright. P3's voice doesn't fit his personality though.
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>>81090552
I don't like Chie's new voice, Teddie is a faggot, Yosuke is alright at best, and I hate Rise's personality she gives through her voice. The P3 characters didn't bother me much, but all the P4 ones did.
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>>81090552
I thought he'd sound like an emo Yosuke, and I was right. Lowenthal has no range at all.
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Someone spoil me

Do I get Serph back or should I just use my Data items on FemSerph
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>>81091987
Serph and Sera combine into Seraph which inherits everything from both of them. Feel free to dump all your items on either one.
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>>81091987
You do, but, by the time he's back, his mantra/skills are gonna be pretty outdated. I just left him with mutual karma and kept using Sera even after I got him back.

It's a bad idea to use them both at the same time, by the way.
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>>81091987
>>81092054
>>81092112
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>>81092175
I love this artist.
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So which MegaTen protagonists have canon names?
Or better yet, which ones don't? The Persona 1,3, & 4 protags don't, & neither does Demi-Fiend, technically.
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>>81092294
Yu does have a canon name, though.
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>>81092294
>3, & 4 protags don't
What are Minato and Yuu?
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>>81092450
How the fuck is Minato canon?
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I just ordered SMT IV as my first entry in the franchise. I fucking LOVE the aesthetic of SMT and its demon/cyberpunk/stylized direction and am interested in the story, but Im worried about the difficulty. What am I in for?
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>>81092450
>Minato
Makoto is more "official" at this point.
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>>81092450
Minato was just used in the manga and as a placeholder name for PQ(in the Atlus videos, you name them both in-game), the movies call him Makoto Yuuki. I don't think that really counts.
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>>81092606
IV is probably the most beginner friendly mainline game in the series. The very beginning is pretty brutal, but, it'll be smooth sailing once you get past one of the early bosses.

Remember to hit weaknesses, use buffs/debuffs, and fuse often.
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Man it sucks losing my hunter big time. At least I had Cielo built as a backup healer at the time so he isn't completely dead weight.
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>>81093403
>not using everyone equally
>not having mutual karma and AP divide
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>>81093403
At least you didn't lose your primary healer, or your primary spellcaster, or primary physical attacker. There's a reason it's recommended to use Gale and Cielo in DDS2.
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>>81093780
Everyone has Mutual Karma. I just didn't build them to multitask so Cielo had no offensive moves whatsoever when this happened.
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>>81093887
But I did lose all three of those. Well, I got one back in an altered form.
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>>81093403
>not using Cielo the whole game in the first place
He's great in DDS2.
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>>81094101
Well I hope you've learned your lesson now. Don't dump all of your Mantras on Serph.
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>>81094101
>lost all three of those
Was your party Serph/Argilla/Roland or something
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>>81095292
Yes
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>>81095584
I'm so sorry.
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Help /smtg/ I've seen the number 666, 8 times for the past 8 days.

What do I do?
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>>81096440
The number 166 haunts me everywhere I go.
You have to learn to live with it.
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>>81096440
Either go to church or a doctor (in order to treat your impending paranoid schizophrenia)
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>>81092380
>>81092450
I was really only counting canon games. I don't really count PQ, so MC is still blank to me. I remembered P4A after I posted, though, so I guess Protagonist is technically named Yu. I'll accept that.
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>>81096907
PQ is canon.
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>>81096440
Kill your friends. It's the only way. Side effects may include eternal damnation.
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>>81096907
http://www.siliconera.com/2014/06/20/persona-q-shadow-labyrinths-story-canon/
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>>81097257
I'd rather not get Eternal Damnation thank you very much.

Then again, it all started after I read a post about some cards that were based off demons.

Maybe some asshole let the demons out and they're stalking me.
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>>81096440
I see the number 843 all the time for some reason.
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I've been stuck in IKEA for three hours.
I have a new appreciation for Sector Carina
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>>81099118
Riding a bike in a store? What savages.
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>>81099118
I'm going to die here and I will welcome it with a full heart
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>>81102131
I'll retrieve your body along with your pieces of chair to give it a proper burial, brave warrior.
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I want to fuck Mirai
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>>81099636
People do this shit all the time but I work at Wal-mart
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>>81104684
>"hey, can I leave my bike here? It's only 5 minutes."
>"N-"
>they are already gone
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>Uriel cast Judgement
Well I'm at max Rakukaja it should be alri-
>Judgement again
>Explode

Guess I'll really need some void fire for this.
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DED SERIES

WHAT HAPPENED
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>>81113843
>gale is in
>sera isn't in
Sera has way more plot integrity than Gale and if you're gonna consider anyone a protagonist besides Serph, it's her
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>>81114068
But Gale had the most character development. He was the true protagonist of DDS2.

SERA A SHIT
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>>81092616
>Makoto
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I don't understand. This series is so popular yet always dead threads
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>>81119091
Just cause they aren't fast doesn't mean they are dead.

I go to /feg/ and /smtg/ and though /feg/ is much faster, /smtg/ has more worthwhile discussions and better community.
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>>81119091

Well what do you want to talk about?
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>>81119530
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>>81120075
What does ice cream have to do with MegaTen? Come on, anon.
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>>81120075
I love ice cream
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>>81120075
How trucks can defeat YHVH?
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>>81120075
Now I'm hungry.
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>>81120075
I for one welcome our new alien masters.
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>>81121470
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Seem Atlus is having another 3DS sale. By now I feel they should just keep it at the sale price after how many times it's been on sale.
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>>81119091
You could always go offsite and hang out with the retards at r/personiggers

we're most active at night anyway, which also includes rabid shitposters
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>>81122356
maybe people are working or schooling or sleeping
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>>81122443
>Work
>School
>Sleep
That would mean less time to work on my Demon Summoning Program.
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>>81122640
How is that coming?
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>>81122874
It's currently undergoing preparations and should be operational within six months. My people will continue to report on his progress.
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>>81122640
I'll just wait until Stephen Hawking e-mail me it.
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>>81122874
>Pixie on Yuzu's clothing
I'm gonna need a source on this.
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>>81124274
Looks like the 2nd volume of the DeSu 1 manga.
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>>81122874
Why is Yuzu such a cowtitted slut?
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>>81104458
You're slipping, friend.

You better be one of the first three posts in the next thread, or you'll disappoint me.
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>>81126447
I'll try not to disappoint you, Anon.
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Anyone has the hardcover? how is the quality?
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>>81123060
Took me a few months to get it.
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>>81127585
never heard of this in my life, but i can say from the cover art that it's shit
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Going through my first nocturne playthrough, this is my second SMT game after P4G. My pretas has fog breath and slime has war cry, but they just dont want to carry over with my fuse, is it a low chance or will they just not carry over?
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>>81130065
That's because the char design is even gayer than Kaneko's.
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>>81130065
You mom is shit.
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>>81130238
Low chance.
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>>81127585
Buy the damn hardcore you idiot.
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>>81126707
Where are you from Mirai anon?
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>>81131658
from your ass.
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>>81131658
East-coast US
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>Nocturne
>2nd playthrough
>Started Kabukicho Prison
>Fused my Uzume and Unicorn to get Principality
>Got Mana Refill on him
>Forgot to pass on Media
>No other demon with healing skills
>Learns Diarama next level
>6322 exp to next level
>2nd Kalpa there for the grinding
>Enemies keep targeting Principality
>Only 10 Life Stones left
>No Beads
>1 Chakra Drop, 5 Chakra Pots, 7 Soma Droplets
>703 Macca left
>Can't buy Beads
>tfw all this shit happens and I've suddenly made the game harder for myself without thinking
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so I'm in the karma temple in DDS

all these red walls are blocking my way, do I need the red key to progress or are they just bonus areas?

please don't tell me I need to backtrack all the way back to wear the red key is
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>>81136125
I'm afraid so.
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>>81136783
fuck this, this game is dropped, I've been waiting for this mediocre anime trope simulator to get good since I started playing. this is the last straw, I'm going to play nocturne. fuck this. I don't know why I even bothered getting to the last dungeon.
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>>81137121
Can't expect anything else from privileged Luxuror scum.
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>>81137121
>implying tropes are bad
>implying you like a game that has a barebones plot and crap characters over one that has more depth and characterization
>implying you like a game that makes you learn skills only once over one that makes you learn them all permanently
Sorry bout all this, but are you sure you're not being unnecessarily harsh towards DDS? I love Nocturne, but damn.

Just curious about your point of view, and as strange as it is to hear that from someone on here, no sarcasm.

So enlighten me. Why the hate for DDS?
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We all know DS1 is the best SMT
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>>81137746
>THE AMBASSADOR HAS LAUNCHED THE ICBMS!
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We all know Raidou 2 is the best SMT
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Dear Pixie.
Please stop using anything other than Reinforcement.

Best regards, people of Embryon.
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>>81137635
it hasn't been terrible up until now but I've just found it really boring, especially with the lack of demon fusion
honestly I see nothing special about the characters and the voice acting is ear-grating

I heard DDS2 was better so that's the reason I've been pushing myself through, but now there's this bullshit with the red key and I don't feel like going through another hour of random encounters and backtracking, no thank you
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>>81138080
Don't worry, if you like DDS2 you'll like DDS1.
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>>81138172
not sure if you read my post correctly, because I'm almost finished with DDS1. that's what my post is about.
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>>81137931
>See pic

>>81137953
Don't you mean, "Best of LU"?
I'm not sorry about the bad pun.

>>81138080
Put it to the side, play a bit of Nocturne, then come back to it when you're prepared. Easy.
Also, think of it this way:
In other SMT games you have Demon Fusion.
In DDS, you devour your enemies to gain power to learn skills permanently. Isn't that a form of fusion? Fusing the AP you harvest with the Mantras to learn skills?

Also, DDS2 gets good with the plot from the start, so you have no reason to quit now.
If you made it to the final dungeon of DDS1, why even quit?
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>>81138304
heeehehehehhhheheheh
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>>81138408
Stop that. The man has a legitimate Reason/argument. At least hear him out, then convince him to relax a bit concerning DDS. He CAN come back to it when he feels like it.
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>>81138612
chill out man I'm just havin' a heeho
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Juanito Escarcha when
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>>81139056
ahora
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oh great apparently not only am I missing the red key, I'm missing the yellow key which is required to obtain the red key

WHY THE FUCK DID ALL THESE KEYS BECOME MANDATORY ONLY AT THE FINAL DUNGEON
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>>81138386
what is the pictured thing
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>>81139343
>WHY THE FUCK DID ALL THESE KEYS BECOME MANDATORY ONLY AT THE FINAL DUNGEON

They're not, they're for items and bonus bosses.
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>>81139343
BECAUSE YOU'RE PLAYING FUCKING DOOM
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>>81139509
Looks like FemRaidou.
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>>81139584
No, I just finished Doom.
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>>81139509
FemRaidou, of course!
>>81139343
You're almost at the end anyhow. No use in complaining now, I'm afraid. Miht as well make the mot of it and DEVOUR ALL IN YOUR PATH!
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>>81139620
I would giver my tube
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>>81139343
lel retard.
they are optional.
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>Meanwhile in /pg/
>People justifying day 1 on-disc DLC
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>>81140860
>mfw I planned this all along and it worked
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>>81141031
Good, good.
Tear them apart from the inside.
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>>81141234
It's what I'm here for after all, guinea pig.
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>>81142035
I'm here for the lewds.
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"Strange! that you should not have suspected years ago -- centuries, ages, eons, ago! -- for you have existed, companionless, through all the eternities. Strange, indeed, that you should not have suspected that your universe and its contents were only dreams, visions, fiction! Strange, because they are so frankly and hysterically insane -- like all dreams: a God who could make good children as easily as bad, yet preferred to make bad ones; who could have made every one of them happy, yet never made a single happy one; who made them prize their bitter life, yet stingily cut it short; who gave his angels eternal happiness unearned, yet required his other children to earn it; who gave his angels painless lives, yet cursed his other children with biting miseries and maladies of mind and body; who mouths justice and invented hell -- mouths mercy and invented hell -- mouths Golden Rules, and forgiveness multiplied by seventy times seven, and invented hell; who mouths morals to other people and has none himself; who frowns upon crimes, yet commits them all; who created man without invitation, then tries to shuffle the responsibility for man's acts upon man, instead of honorably placing it where it belongs, upon himself; and finally, with altogether divine obtuseness, invites this poor, abused slave to worship him!...

It is true, that which I have revealed to you; there is no God, no universe, no human race, no earthly life, no heaven, no hell. It is all a dream -- a grotesque and foolish dream. Nothing exists but you. And you are but a thought -- a vagrant thought, a useless thought, a homeless thought, wandering forlorn among the empty eternities!
He vanished, and left me appalled; for I knew, and realized, that all he had said was true."
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LET ME SLEEP PLEASE
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>>81142443
Mark Twain plz go
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>this is what /smtg/ actually believes
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>>81143687
The spirit of the mariachi flows in everyone.
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I AM A MAN HALF HUMAN
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>>81119091

There's a reason for that. There's a handful of autists who sit on all day every day to crack down on any conversation here they dislike. Which since their standards are so arbitrary this means that no matter what you talk about at least one to two sperging autists will be bitching that you shouldn't. So a lot of people got fed up and moved on, leaving the dead general you see now.
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>>81142443

Isamu, just because you have to jerk yourself off doesn't mean that everyone either ha to, or doesn't exist. Other people can interact jsut fine.
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>>81143921
Undead general, plz.
>>81144254
Isamu didn't do anything wrong.
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>>81144679
>Isamu
>doing anything right
Pick one
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>>81146107
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>>81138386
bad puns are best puns
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>>81146257
I need to start playing that again. Have no idea where I'm currently at.

Still amusing that there's a toilet ghost who teaches you how to play it and pays you money when you beat succeed.
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>page 10
post you FAGS
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>>81151553
you FAGS
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>>81151787
LITTLE FAGGOT FAGGOT FAGGOT
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>>81151553
What the hee did you just say to me, you little ho?
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>>81143687
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>>81153382
Is Teddie the only bisexual in the series?
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>there will be a person who identifies as an other-kin male lesbian in P5
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>>81153904
No
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>>81153904
Tatsuya
Yu
Tanaka
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It's been so long since I've dicked around in the Casino, I wasted my fucking time using Blackjack when Poker is #1.

Best and or worst games in your opinion?
no save states
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>>81154072
How am I suppose to self-insert if the protag is a loser faggot to begin with?
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>>81154362
I can get the reasons for Tatsuya and Tanaka, but I'm drawing a blank on what would qualify Yu as bisexual.

[spoilers]Besides getting his udders milked by the hard, cold fingers of Daddy ATLUS[/spoilers]
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>>81155308
Fuck, did I put a space in there? I screwed that up. Unfortunate.
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>>81155605
it's spoiler, not spoilers
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>>81155308
He has the option to kiss Teddie until Dojima enters and cockblocks, teasing Yosuke, and he can make a cop question his sexuality by asking for his number.
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>>81155805
I see, will be sure to remember that. Thanks

>>81155832
Ah, never played Golden, only Vanilla a while ago. Not familiar with most of the additions.
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>>81155035
Wouldn't that make self-inserting even easier then? Common ground, y'know.
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>All this 4chan drama that's been going on

I never thought I would have an opportunity to use this image. Give us oblivion.
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>>81157946

Just turn /smtg/ into the 4chan equivalent of Sumaru city how it is at the end of IS
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>>81157946

That's some disturbingly fitting OC.
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>>81157946
I only vague know, cause I don't leave this shitposting haven
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>>81087324
ohey you're using my art. I can't believe it. someone actually saved it and used it and it's not even that great.
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>>81158124
>everyone became alium
>only one poster is a normal human bean
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>>81159073

You do some nice stuff so it's not too surprising.
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Some questions about Devil Survivor OC please:

1. How important is Null-Curse skill? I thought it prevented all status effects but after wasting all my Macca to get it on the demon I want it actually doesn't, meh.

2. Are status effect skills worth having for 7/8th days?

3. Is there any point in having elemental/physical attack skills if you can just spam Megido?
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>>81162182
I can honestly say that I never had any issues with status effects, nor did I ever have to use them.
The elemental dances can still ruin people's days but your best bets are Holy Dance/Megido/Medigoladyne
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https://www.madewithcode.com/project/bracelet#

let's see your best smtg

free shipping if you live in US
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>>81162384
Also, Multistrike is cray cray on the right demons
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>>81162384
Thanks. I had some fun at first but the gameplay seems shallow as fuck now so I don't think I want to waste anymore time on it.

Endgame is basically about fusing a bunch of different looking demons but with exact same skills set and shit on everything isn't it? No diversity at all. (Medigoladyne/Drain/*/Anti-All/Phys Drain/*)
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>>81162789
You can throw in some physical hitters and they can potentially keep up with your magic dudes, but otherwise yeah, it's all about the nukes.
The Megidoladyne thing was a joke.Real spoiler: you can't use it in-game, but Lucifer will use it against you.
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bruh
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>>81162789
>Phys Drain

It's like you want to get pierced.
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Is DDS worth playing? Sell me on it /smtg/
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>>81163064
-nice press turn system with some unique things like barriers
-strong focus on customization of party members, can pick and choose what spells they learn
-interesting (although at times annoyingly vague) storyline
-pretty meaty in terms of length
-good characters
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>>81163064
Nocturne minus fusion but with an actual story and characters
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>>81163215
>>81163238
Hm ok, it emulate well or should I dust off my old softmodded PS2?
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>>81163370
You should buy them.
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>>81163531
Didn't even realize I could for a non-ridiculous sum. Somehow expected it'd be the sort of game I'd have to shell out a lot to some ebay collector for, but looks like it's only $15 on Amazon so maybe not such a bad idea.

Though $15 is still more than free...
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Is there a maximum number of "+'s" that you can get on skills in IV?
Do they do anything besides lower the cost by 1 MP?
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>>81163786
Thought I heard it went up to +20 when the game came out but I could be misremembering
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>>81163786
It's like 11 or something I think. And it's nothing major at all. It's just SP reduction and I think at certain thresholds it minorly increases damage. Don't worry about it
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>>81163818
Really? I ask because my support skills aren't going past +3.

I am level 16 if that's relevant at all.
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>>81163818
I think each spell type has a different limit. I've seen screenshots with support spells maxed at 3 but healing and attack spells maxed at 8.
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>>81163980
Support skills go to +3, most attack skills go to +8.
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>>81163742
They were reprinted or something recently. Don't be a cheap bitch.
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>>81164260
Yup, pretty sure they were.

This arrived today actually, don't know when I'm gonna start playing since I'm working through SMT IV, but I gotta say it felt good getting a brand new PS2 game, brought me back.
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>>81163742
They're only $10 on PSN.
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I can't into desu games lengthy texts and fft style field
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>>81166076
Sound like a casual.
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He should have been in Nocturne in this badass form.
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>>81169349
Funny thing about this is that his devil trigger design was made as part of a deal with Capcom to let them use Dante when in exchange Atlus had Kaneko work on some designs for Devil May Cry 3.
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>>81169948
I know. That's why I wanted that specific DT to be in Nocturne, it'd be right at home.
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I wonder why there's no more SMT in stuff like Source Film Maker.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vo78PyIg_xc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUWWRmElXOo
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>>81170939
Because SFM is only good for porn, and even then it's not great.
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>>81171082
No, porn is just all it gets used for.
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>>81171082
>>81172879
I've never seen SFM porn, just silly videos a la Gmod.
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>>81172996
You're not missing out on anything.
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2 hour dead period.
>Recarm
Discuss this graph? Some parts of it make sense...
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>>81177750
Can we talk about how you don't know the difference between a chart and a graph.
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>>81181690
I want to lick that reincarnation booty
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>>81182065
Tell me your ideals, Anon! So that I may twist them into your undoing!
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>>81155832
That doesn't make him bisexual, only bi-curious.

>>81154362
Tanaka is a pedophile, not a bisexual. That's a difference.

Tatsuya is pretty much 100% straight since canon choice is Maya.
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>>81185978
>only bi-curious.
I know it might be hard for you to acknowledge but the game gives open room for each player to get their own conclusions about that
>canon
Who died and left you in charge of what's canon or not in P2?
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>>81186635
Eternal Punishment you dense faggot.
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>>81186904
You do realise Tatsuya had a one-sided crush on Maya, right? ...right?
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I'm at the point of DDS1 where i dunno what mantras to get.
Should i get Mitama for everyone?
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>>81187098
Yeah, and that's what makes him straight.
Jun's love for Tatsuya was also one sided.
Just because Jun was a fag doesn't make Tatsuya one.
And none of the options in Golden imply that Yu is bisexual, just bi-curious.
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>>81187123
Have you completed the Ship segment? If so, I'm fairly sure that there will be no more changes of party due to plot, so it's up to you. If not, get Mutual Karma ASAP.
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>>81187123

Mutual Karma is always good to have on everyone.
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>>81187246
Actually according to the Persona World Guide Jun is the only one who doesn't appear in the one-sided crush chart.

>Maki » Pierce Boy
>Elly » Pierce Boy
>Mark » Maki
>Lisa » Tatsuya
>Tatsuya » Maya
>Katsuya » Maya
>Ulala » Baofu
>Okamura Maya » Kashihara
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>>81187246
In my understanding being "bisexual" means feeling attraction to both men and women. So having a crush on someone of the opposite gender isn't proof of this 100% straight for the rest of his life thing, you see where I'm getting at?
I still think that if romantic options towards the opposite gender are available for protagonists, one could totally see them as being bisexual
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>>81187805
>Tatsuya » Maya
>Katsuya » Maya
Welp
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Why is Decarabia looking up Tamaki's skirt? Pervert!
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>>81187246
What would even draw the line between bisexual and "just bi-curious" options anyway? Hug Yosuke the same way you'd do to a girl at their social link max event is the bi-curious answer and "Shove it up his ass" the bisexual one, right?
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tumblr pls go
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>>81188136
Because Decarabia is everywhere
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>>81188136
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>>81187947
Man, I love Katsuya and all but his crush on maya was so dumb. It literally came out of nowhere. Maya spurting her catchphrase on him was literally all it took
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>>81188338
Bi-curious means you want to try it out at least once but you're not particulary into the idea beyond that.
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>>81188502
> Maya spurting her catchphrase on him was literally all it took
Sometimes that's all it takes to steal a man's heart.
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>>81188560
Like I said, it's hard to tell what he'd want beyond that since he's basically sef-insert (in the games anyway). Also, this discussion is really pointless
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>>81189261
How old would Nanjo be now?
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>>81189389
Too old to be mentioned in persona games ever again
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>>81189389

He's 20 in Persona 2 so 31 during Arena I guess.
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>>81189389
Mid thirties probably.
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Huh. Was it ever stated what year Persona 1 took place in? IIRC, P2 happens in 1999, so P1 would take place in 1996, right? That'd put Nanjo around 35 I think.
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>>81189694
Yeah. He's from 1979 (as seen on >>81177750)
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>>81189694
P1 and Devil Summoner are in 96 or 97, not sure.
I know that Soul Hackers and P2 are in 99 though, SH takes place during summer, while P2 is later during winter.
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>>81189694

Yeah 34/35 or so. All the P1 characters are around the same age.
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>>81189898
IS is also in late summer and someone calculated that EP is in early 2000 or so. DS and Persona are in 1996.
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>>81190070
IS is definitely not during summer considering there's snow.
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>>81190245
There's snow in IS?
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www.chthonian.net/persona/tsumi/faqs/astronomy.html
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would you eat a slime
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>>81191117

Well of course
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>>81191117
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>>81191117
maybe, what would it think as I'm about to eat it?
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>>81191117
would you fuck a slime?
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Are there any more of these awesome, old school MegaTen gifs? I only have two, but they're my favorite things to ever be posted here
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>>81197936
Here's my other one
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>>81197629
Mate I'd let it me
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>So much silence.
>So much stillness.
>Make it stop.
>MAKE IT STOP.
MAKE IT STOP!
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>>81197936
Here's one. I guess.
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>>81157946
wow

that's

ahh..destroy the reactor
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>>81205979
Be quiet
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>>81188136
He's looking everywhere for Forneus.
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>>81207531
do you think he ever discovered that forneus was ded?
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>>81191353
holy shit I drew this a long ass time ago, I didn't know anyone saved it
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>>81187098
>someone of the opposite gender not returning your love = bisexual/gay
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Ey bros, le's talk bout mah nigga Cielo 'ere.

E's gud yeah?
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>>81212798
Still have the Soejima neck going about
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so is streetpass worth keeping active in SMTIV?
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>>81190070
>someone calculated that EP is in early 2000


I thought that person calculated it to be in summer of 2000. If that's the case then how is Tatsuya still at school if he was a senior in April 1999? School would have resumed for the following year in April 2000.
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>>81189261
>someone colored it

Awesome.
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>>81213679
I got a SMT4 streepass once
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We Nyarly now?
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>>81216725
No. Too much red. Also they missed the opportunity to make Sho Kandori.
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>>81214921
I'm not too sure if I get what you're saying, but if Tatsuya is a senior starting April 1999 then he is a senior until March 2000. Anyway, EPP's additional scenario starts in autumn, so there's a sort of timeframe for that.
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hey /smtg/ im a persona scrub who wants to play mainline SMT but im also poor so

what are the best smt games for
>Game boy advance
>Playstation 1
>SNES
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>>81217417
There is only SMT on SNES, iOS, PS2, and 3DS if you know English.
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>>81217417
>Game boy advance
Demikids, if you hate yourself.

>Playstation 1
Shit's all in Japanese nigger, but SMT1, 2, IF
Also here be Persona 1 and Persona 2

>SNES
SMT1, 2 which have eng patches, and Kyuuyaku Megami Tensei.
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>>81216725

Nyarly is gone forever
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>>81217578
>Playing Persona on the PS1
I'd rather die.
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>>81217417
>Game boy advance
learn japanese
>Playstation 1
learn japanese
>SNES
SMT II
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>>81217648
Nah man the Black Butterfly is Nyarly's symbol.

So he is still alive until Shadow Aigis crushed it in her intro.
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>>81217196
Oh found it! Katsuya mentions the Grand Cross that happened that summer. EP is autumn 1999 I guess.
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>>81218374
>playing Persona 1

I'd rather go outside.
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>>81218608
Sorry to say, but you have to like P1 to be part of the SMTG cool kids club.
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>>81218608
It's got complex dungeons, though. I'll stay inside.
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>>81218713
Being cool is overrated anyway.
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>>81218923
Elly is truly best girl. I imagine she'd post on SMTG.
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>>81217196
I saw what that person calculated before and I thought it was in summer of 2000. If that is the case, then why is Tatsuya and Anna still at school if it's after their presupposed graduation?

>>81218568
So it's 1999 like we all assumed then? It makes more sense that way.
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>>81219078
Chances are they didn't think it out that well when it comes to what takes place when and why Kyouji has so much free time. At least parts of P1 and DS1 both take place in '96, and at least parts of P2 and SH take place in '99, with Rei and others saying SH is 3 years after the incident in Hirasaki City, and Eikichi's line towards the end of IS about it being "almost the 21st century/new millennium'.
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>>81219574
Turns out it was actually "we're nearly into the 21st century", but same basic idea.
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>Canzah currently shitting up /pg/

I guess people never do change.
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I'm surprised no one has translated the DeSu2 Break Record trailer.
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>>81220159
Too much Persona for anyone to be assed.
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>>81220159
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>>81220065
All i see him doing is dumping sprites screenshots, if anything its you people shitposting
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>>81219574
>>81219772
I'm with you on that. Sometimes I think the fans reach a little too deep on the lore crap and wind up very disappointed when Atlus churns out a shallow truth.

Thanks Ultimax. I won't ever dream again.
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>>81220547
It's him and like maybe two dudes bitching about how shit or not shit Final Fantasy music is, and now it devolved into a "SAMEFAG. NO U THE SAMEFAG" fight.
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>>81220731
That wasnt him tho
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>>81220547
posting palettes is okay but lots of people have seen them before

so when asked to put his tripcode back on he freaked out and said that anyone who wanted him to do so was a big samefag

like, you know how some shitposters quote a whole bunch of posts and say "samefag detected" or some shit? he nonironically did that
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>>81220845
I know but that's what it seemed to have started it.
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>>81220851
All those posts do look like blatant samefag tho, he has a point there

>>81220958
He attacked some faggot who attacked another faggot it seems
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>>81221075
>All those posts do look like blatant samefag tho, he has a point there

So? It's still not a good defense. That wasn't even the only argument he used; he also said that everyone who disagreed with him needed to go back to /v/
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>>81218397
>that shitstorm on 2ch after she did that
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>>81221075
/pg/ is always like that anyway
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>>81221274
What did 2ch say?
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>>81221272
I dont even get why you even give a shit about what people say on the internet, like why do you people even get so mad, who gives a shit what someone else said
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>>81218923
>complex dungeons
They are not that complex.
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>>81221643
>Just close your eyes and step away from the screen nigga.
>>
For anyone interested, Atlus has put all it's PSN shit on sale again in North America starting today.

$3.99 for: P2:EP(PS1), P3FES, both Raidou Devil Summoner games
$4.99 for: P1P, P2P:IS, P3P
$7.99 for: Nocturne, DDS1&2, P4 (PS2)
$9.99 for: P4 Arena
$14.99 for P4A Ultimate Edition (all the DLC included)
$19.99 for P4 Golden
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>>81222187
I'm going to buy DDS1 2 and Persona 3 fes.

Thanks for letting me know anon.
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>>81221353
Acting like little kids, especially after izanagi kids reveal.
>waaah this and that
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>>81221878
If it makes you mad then thats what you should do, i mean if you get angry at people on the internet then maybe try seeking help
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>>81222847
So did they think Kagutsuchi was a Nyarly copycat or what?
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>>81221075
Not really, at least a few of them are too close. Besides, no one who does work around /pg/ or /smtg/ is that much of an asshole. You never see scanbro or the debisama guys acting that way.
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>>81221353
I read some people in the Ultimax thread talking about Nyarlathotep (ニャル) just prior to the early copies going out, so at least someone had already mentioned it.
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>>81223769
>You never see scanbro or the debisama guys acting that way
>he missed that day
OH BOY OH BOY
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>>81223982
That wasn't the real DebiSama.
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>>81224129
I'm kiddi- wait someone used a fake trip?
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>>81223982
Might have to be a little more specific than that, man.

>>81224237
Neither of them even use a tripcode, so no.
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>>81224237
DebiSamas have never used trips.
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>>81223982
Did someone post under my name on here or something? I only really use it to discuss project updates anyway and that one podcast we had, but that's it.
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>>81087324
>Recommended Reading
Why do people love recommending books they've never read?
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>>81225661
I have actually read most of them, even part of the Rig Veda.
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>>81215471
Holy shit. I'm gonna join all the other anons in this thread amazed people saved their old stuff.
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JUST BEAT NOCTURNE

SOMEONE TELL ME THE BEST WAY TO PLAY SMT2
AS IN EMULATING WHICH VERSION AND WHY AND HOW AND WHO

ALSO IS HIJIRI CANONICALLY ALEPH OR IS THAT JUST A RUMOR?
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So the normal soldier was once playable in DeSu.

Also, God's Love is why Abel became a Bel.

And Keisuke dies in the manga at Kaido's hands.
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>>81222187
Oh god damn it. I just bought EP last week at full price.
Fuck fuck fuck.
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I DONT WANT TO TRY FIGHT THIS LOVE
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>>81226613
bumping post
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>>81227702
STARTING FROM TODAY IT'S ALL YOURS
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>>81222187
are atlus games never not on sale
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>>81226613
I honestly couldn't recommend it. Unless you're *really* into that old school shit, just read a LP and call it a day.
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>>81229937
Fuck off, casual.
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>>81226613
There's only one translated version. Snes version. AG's patch. Use Snes9x, not Zsnes. Hijiri thing is just speculation. It's never been officially confirmed.
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>>81226613
A rom DL's in the pastebin, loser. Use Snes9x as an emulator.
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>>81230297
>not using znes
Oh lawd
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>>81230106
>casual
I've beaten SMT 1 and 2, along with all the old DQs, FFs, PSs, and such.

>>81230486
Don't even
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>>81230486
Zsnes is shit.
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>>81230486
zsnes is for stupid homos
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>>81230486
Znes sucks for playing the SNES games.
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Is retroarch for psp coming anytime? ;_;

I want to play kmt on the go!
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Why does Demi-fiend have yellow eyes in all of his official art but grey eyes in-game?

This shit keeps me up at night.
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>>81233381
I'm sorry but I think you have autism.
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>>81233616
Welcome to the reason of autism fucker
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>>81222503
Nice gif. I'll take that.

>>81223348
Yes.

>>81226613
Heavily HEAVILY implied.

>>81226761
>playable SDF
Oh the moral decisions...
>God's love made Abel a Bel
I'm OK with this
>Kaido kills Keisuke
That DOES happen if you fuck up in-game. Glad they kept that. RIP Keisuke. ;_;

>>81227702
NO MATTER HOW DANGEROUS...

>>81233381
He does have yellow eyes in Demifiend form. In human form they're either gray OR blue, can't remember off the top of my head.

>>81233616
>implying you even know what autism is
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>>81235158
They were grey while he was a human, too, though.
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>>81222503
I need more good gifs like this one. Got more?
Please tell me you do.
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Which Noise is the hardest to get in DDS 1? I wanna do full 99 before even trying Demi.
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>>81235663
Strength.
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>>81236183
Okay, gonna give points to STR then.
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>>81235568
I have this
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>>81237168
0_0
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>>81226761
>And Keisuke dies in the manga at Kaido's hands.
>No Raws
Fuck.
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>Playing Nocturne right now
>2nd Kalpa grindfest
>Riberama up
>Suddenly Shiki-Ouji
>Analyzed
>Level 54
>Remember reading a few threads ago about an Anon grinding in First Kalpa and encountering a Level 60 Rangda in Hard Mode
>Pretty much the same thing happening to me right now
>Part of me is fucking terrified he'll use Mahamaon before I kill his 420 HP, and it'll land on my MC (have Anathema equipped)
>Other part of me wondering how much exp and Macca he's worth when I'm level 39 and he's 54.
>What do I do?
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>>81237954
I hope you lose.
Grinding is for fuckass scrubs in SMT, the only time it is ever excusable is in Strange Journey and DDS1/2 for Secret Bosses.
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>>81237954
Nevermind he missed Stun Needle, and I killed him easily.
424 EXP. 417 Macca.
I get more from Ikusas and Phantoms. Damnit.
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>>81238186
I dont understand this.

How am i supposed to level up and unlock new characters without grinding?
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>>81238186


I'm not grinding for me, I'm grinding for my demons. So they'll learn all their skills so I can save em in the Compendium and fuse em off.

Its a completion thing, all right?
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>>81237954
>riberama
>on hard
y
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>>81238520
>>81238352
Forgot to mention:
>2nd Playthrough
>Normal mode
>Trying to complete compendium
>Going for TDE
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>>81238642
>not going for TDE on your first playthrough
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>>81238642
>>81238816
>not doing 1 playthrough and multiple saves for a "normal" and TDE.
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>>81238890
This.
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>>81238816
I went Neutral on my first playthrough.
Was going for TDE, but didn't know you can't access 5th Kalpa after you enter Tower of Kagutsuchi. I tried, but Lucy wasn't there anymore, so I got locked out of it. Damn shame.

>>81238890
>>81238921
Did you know how to do everything the first time you played Nocturne?
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>>81238816

I did the neutral ending my first time and I'm going to do TDE on NG+
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>>81239104
That's the plan.
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>>81239018
>Did you know how to do everything the first time you played Nocturne?
No, but this place spoiled me the hell outta me.
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>>81239261
Isamu is the killer.
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>>81239018

I played normally until i reached the final dungeon.
I only used a guide in order to find the hidden boss i missed.Black Frost.

I knew Nocturne had this policy of multiple endings and secret bosses,so i made a save before i went into the final dungeon.
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>>81239261
>>81239321
FOOLS!
IT WAS ME ALL ALONG!
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>>81239462
YOU THOUGHT IT WAS HITLER, BUT IT WAS ME! THE CRAWLING CHAOS!
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>>81240765
>>81239462
You thought it was Nyarly, but it was really Cthulhu!
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>>81239383
I found Black Frost on my first playthrough completely by accident.

And then he used Mamudoon on me the first round and it was the only time in that playthrough that an Instant death spell worked on Demifiend.
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Eboladyne
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>>81219772
isnt that symbol on the door the gekkoukan high symbol they were one their clothes?
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I'm going to change this rotten world.
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>>81248374
You'll just end up as a fap hand.
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>>81248235
Gekkoukan High is from P3.
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>>81248616
I know thats why I was pointing it out
they look the same
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>>81248374
From what I've learned, the only way to do so is to kill your friends.
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>>81252016
>tfw your friends are the source of everything that is wrong with this world.

why
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>>81248941
It's also the logo of BMW, but it's not terribly complex.
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>>81252834
>he loves fat girls
>always showing you their pictures
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>>81253236
>fat
>girls
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>reach minotaur in smtIV
>have three sources of healing, two demons and myself with bufu, rakukaja sakukaja and tarukaja
>mfw labrys strike crits twice and he follows it up with two more crit oni-kaguras, wiping my whole party

dude what the fuck
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>>81253489
I lost track of all the times I was close to winning that fight, only to get smirked and critically hit to hell and back.
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>>81253489
Invest in Tarunda/Fang Breaker instead of Sukukaja
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>>81253489
If you get Walter helping you, it's faster to just reload.
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>>81253864

Too bad there's no soft resetting
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>>81253864
>Most unlucky for you!
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>>81253864
>I'LL SHOW YOU MY POWER! AGI!
>No effect
>Minotaur smirked
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>>81127585
I ordered the softcover from Amazon without even realizing there was a hardcover option. Oh well.
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Personafag here playing through SMTIV. I know if you make yourself immune (resistant?) to everything in Persona and you fight a bonus boss, they'll Megidolaon you to death. I know that's the same for SMT, but I looked at the different armors available - you can't get resistance to all damage, let alone immunity. What does it take to send a bonus boss into Megidolaon mode?
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>>81255407
Your whole team nullifying/absorbing/reflecting their element of choice
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>>81255767
Oh, so each one has a specific element. Okay.

That makes more sense, since there's like twenty of them.
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>>81255940
>since there's like twenty of them
You've never played Persona 1 have you
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I'm playing Persona 1 and havent't really upgraded my personas beyond MC's. Party's around level 30 and I just finished the Lost Forest, what are some decent healing personas? Especially one that learns some variety of media would be nice.
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>>81257239
Phaleg, mediarama.
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Demons and God in SMT are more of ideas than they are literal. They represent ideologies, where "God" is the collective, and "demons" are people willing to push forward to accomplish shit for themself. So the whole narrative of humans deciding for themselves is basically arbitrarily deciding that those ones "don't count." The demons literally say that they're born from humans wanting the ideology they give too. So killing them is literally killing human ideology. The narrative basically breaks down entirely, and it comes off like hypocritically defining certain things as alien just to not have to consider them.
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>>81257385
>The demons literally say that they're born from humans wanting the ideology they give too. So killing them is literally killing human ideology.
No, it's literally killing representations of human ideology. You have to take into account that demons are influenced by what humans perceive them as, but still have free will. That's how you get niggers like Mastema that technically follow the "rules" of their alignment, but are ultimately in it for themselves.
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The Beelzebub fight in SMTIV was fucking insane.
It was pretty refreshing to find out that if you use Tetrakarn on the red knight he won't Megidolaon you to death though.
In which SMT game is Beelzebub absolute bullshit?
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>>81257845
SMT IV, Nocturne, Raidou 1.
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>>81257845
He has the best animation in Nocturne
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>>81258148
DeSu 1 too, if you don't have anyone with Amrita.
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>>81257595
Mastema is devout to God though even with his ulterior motives.

Heck everything he did in SJ was still part of the Three Wise Men's plan to fulfill's YHVH agenda to have his ego stroked 24/7.
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>>81257385
So how many times are you going to post this? Until we all get sick of it?
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I'm in the Ueno area in SMT IV, and I've opened up the terminal.
I've been exploring Tokyo and I swear to god I have no idea where to go.

I know I need to get someone's head, but I don't know where to find him.
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>>81260069
Get a quest from a guy at the Ueno Hunter Association to kill the demon.
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>>81260069

Pelliadah or however it's pronounced. He's in the park above Ueno. Easy to miss
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which one?
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>>81262292
Hardcover or go home
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>>81262350
is hardcover chaos
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Sorry if this is a dumb question, but if I'm playing or building a support, should I have mostly -kaja or -da skills? Both?
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>>81264106
I put -kaja or -da in all demons from my party, it's more effective.
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>>81262590
Good things are always Chaos.
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>>81264106
both
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Prayer
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>>81270423
Megidoladyne
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>>81262590
Hardcover is Hardco(ve)re.
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>>81273405
>Hardcovere

Ya blew it
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Is there a Titania Hallway in DDS2 or is the grind for mantra real
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>>81273929
It's easier because Atma Premium exists. The only problem is cash.
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Moh Shuvuu is the sexiest.
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>>81275771
That's not Asherah.
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>>81275857
what a MILF

literally
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>>81275771
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>NG+ on SMTIV
>Finish buying the apps I want (MP recovery, Compendium discounts etc.)
>Still 418 app points left

Well shit, what the hell do I spend these on?
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>>81277067
On everything you don't have, starting with cheapest
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Do inactive party members still get atma points?
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>>81278823
If you don't eat or have AP Divide, I think they do
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>>81278991
The only time they don't get AP is if the active party eats all of the enemies, under normal circumstances everyone gains equal AP.
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Jesus Michael is way harder than Metatron was in DDS1.
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>buff and debuff enemy to max
>Dekaja, Dekunda in same turn
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>>81280850
Here's a tip: Attack Mirror is your friend. If you manage to get him down to red HP before your turn ends, pop an Impel Stone, soften him up a bit further than finish up with an Attack Mirror. He ALWAYS kicks off the final phase of the battle with Omnipotence, and bouncing it back via the Attack Mirror will deal around 6-700 damage to him, possibly finishing him off right there. Plus it cancels his turn, meaning you don't need to suffer through the Megidolaon he casts afterwards.

Betatron was pretty easy though, truth be told.
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>>81281278
Basically this, just do whatever you can to skip or minimize the last 25% hp phase. I had a mind charge on Gale and got lucky with a Skull Cleave crit by Serph and he died without casting Omnipotence once (if he had it was game over since it literally destroyed everyone or left them at 10% or so, on hard mode, guess I was slightly underlevelled).
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>>81281278
Well that made it go pretty smoothly.
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>>81282951
Good shit, enjoy your Divine Light and Fire of Sinai skills. Divine Light is hilariously OP by the way -- it's Omnipotence with a different name, Debilitate effect and all.
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Well, I beat the demiurge solo in strange journey.

That was... boring, if I'm being perfectly honest. These new game plus ex missions really needed to be available the first time around. I guess all that's left this run is to go see the look on zelenin's stupid face as I roll through the final battle and wreck her with a bunch of high level law demons
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>Dual Ring

If I had this shit in DDS1 Heat would solo every regular battle.

But for now this is nice for just putting out two Insatiable from Sera
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DDS 2 question: how close am I to the end? I just beat Bat's Solar Data.
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>>81287191

The sun has a few floors, but if you're not doing the secret bosses you have a few floors left and a few bosses.
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>>81286974
>Dual Ring + Turn Ring
Ha ha, time for rape!
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>Tomodachi life
>Demifiend starts dating Loreilei from Pokemon
>Demifiend marries her the next day

Jesus christ Demifiend doesn't fuck around.
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>listen to SMTG sings Lone Prayer
>getting flashbacks to Persona 1 random encounters like some sort of PTSD victim
I dont even have a hardon for the original music, And I love P3 and P4s music. Can someone tell me where P1P went so wrong. Why is this song so terrible.
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>>81291316
live ball and manly
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>>81278991
>>81279391
should i get Shared Karma?
people say it's a waste and i should just opt for Mutual Karma
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>>81291454

Shared Karma gets inactive party members 50% exp and Mutual 100%

Shared Karma isn't even in DDS2
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So did MT1 for NES never get released? Did the author change his mind after KMT or was it just a hoax?
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/smtg/ pls talk to me, I'm dying
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>>81293793
Have a Bead.
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>>81291718
Currently at Coordinate 136.
CAN'T THIS GET ANYMORE BORING.
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>>81294771
Drop if you don't like it, geez.
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>>81293793
Let's talk about our feelings, faggot.
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>>81294771
Man you aren't even at the most boring part of the game

Fuck the sewers. Sewers are the worst part of any game
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