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YOUR ASS IS MINE!
>finally get whole party to 99 in DDS2 in preparation for Satan
>having to farm noise while getting no exp
I saved all of the Noise items I found during my playthrough and slapped Item Find on my active party while I was Mantra grinding in the room where Shiva and whatsaname's doors are. I've got like, 30 of each Noise item, it's insane.
I've had item find on for a while, but, I haven't gotten many of them. I'm grinding near the first large date node in the 6th layer, should I just grind where Shiva/Vishnu's doors are?
You can try there if you want, sure. Are you using Magic Reeds as well? That really speeds things up. Encounter rates were "fixed" in DDS2 so to speak; reinforcements during battle were stupidly rare in DDS1 even after using a Magic Reed, but in DDS2 they're a lot more common. If you're lucky, you might get multiples of 2-3 types of Noise in a single battle.
Finally got around to looking at PQ. Does anyone know if you can turn off the VA's? They sound fucking disgusting. I'm not weeb enough to demand Japanese VA, I just want to read the text without people screeching at me.
I don't like Chie's new voice, Teddie is a faggot, Yosuke is alright at best, and I hate Rise's personality she gives through her voice. The P3 characters didn't bother me much, but all the P4 ones did.
You do, but, by the time he's back, his mantra/skills are gonna be pretty outdated. I just left him with mutual karma and kept using Sera even after I got him back.
It's a bad idea to use them both at the same time, by the way.
I just ordered SMT IV as my first entry in the franchise. I fucking LOVE the aesthetic of SMT and its demon/cyberpunk/stylized direction and am interested in the story, but Im worried about the difficulty. What am I in for?
Minato was just used in the manga and as a placeholder name for PQ(in the Atlus videos, you name them both in-game), the movies call him Makoto Yuuki. I don't think that really counts.
IV is probably the most beginner friendly mainline game in the series. The very beginning is pretty brutal, but, it'll be smooth sailing once you get past one of the early bosses.
Remember to hit weaknesses, use buffs/debuffs, and fuse often.
>not using everyone equally
>not having mutual karma and AP divide
I was really only counting canon games. I don't really count PQ, so MC is still blank to me. I remembered P4A after I posted, though, so I guess Protagonist is technically named Yu. I'll accept that.
I'd rather not get Eternal Damnation thank you very much.
Then again, it all started after I read a post about some cards that were based off demons.
Maybe some asshole let the demons out and they're stalking me.
I've been stuck in IKEA for three hours.
I have a new appreciation for Sector Carina
>Uriel cast Judgement
Well I'm at max Rakukaja it should be alri-
Guess I'll really need some void fire for this.
What does ice cream have to do with MegaTen? Come on, anon.
I for one welcome our new alien masters.
That would mean less time to work on my Demon Summoning Program.
Anyone has the hardcover? how is the quality?
Going through my first nocturne playthrough, this is my second SMT game after P4G. My pretas has fog breath and slime has war cry, but they just dont want to carry over with my fuse, is it a low chance or will they just not carry over?
>Started Kabukicho Prison
>Fused my Uzume and Unicorn to get Principality
>Got Mana Refill on him
>Forgot to pass on Media
>No other demon with healing skills
>Learns Diarama next level
>6322 exp to next level
>2nd Kalpa there for the grinding
>Enemies keep targeting Principality
>Only 10 Life Stones left
>1 Chakra Drop, 5 Chakra Pots, 7 Soma Droplets
>703 Macca left
>Can't buy Beads
>tfw all this shit happens and I've suddenly made the game harder for myself without thinking
so I'm in the karma temple in DDS
all these red walls are blocking my way, do I need the red key to progress or are they just bonus areas?
please don't tell me I need to backtrack all the way back to wear the red key is
fuck this, this game is dropped, I've been waiting for this mediocre anime trope simulator to get good since I started playing. this is the last straw, I'm going to play nocturne. fuck this. I don't know why I even bothered getting to the last dungeon.
Can't expect anything else from privileged Luxuror scum.
>implying tropes are bad
>implying you like a game that has a barebones plot and crap characters over one that has more depth and characterization
>implying you like a game that makes you learn skills only once over one that makes you learn them all permanently
Sorry bout all this, but are you sure you're not being unnecessarily harsh towards DDS? I love Nocturne, but damn.
Just curious about your point of view, and as strange as it is to hear that from someone on here, no sarcasm.
So enlighten me. Why the hate for DDS?
>THE AMBASSADOR HAS LAUNCHED THE ICBMS!
it hasn't been terrible up until now but I've just found it really boring, especially with the lack of demon fusion
honestly I see nothing special about the characters and the voice acting is ear-grating
I heard DDS2 was better so that's the reason I've been pushing myself through, but now there's this bullshit with the red key and I don't feel like going through another hour of random encounters and backtracking, no thank you
Don't you mean, "Best of LU"?
I'm not sorry about the bad pun.
Put it to the side, play a bit of Nocturne, then come back to it when you're prepared. Easy.
Also, think of it this way:
In other SMT games you have Demon Fusion.
In DDS, you devour your enemies to gain power to learn skills permanently. Isn't that a form of fusion? Fusing the AP you harvest with the Mantras to learn skills?
Also, DDS2 gets good with the plot from the start, so you have no reason to quit now.
If you made it to the final dungeon of DDS1, why even quit?
Stop that. The man has a legitimate Reason/argument. At least hear him out, then convince him to relax a bit concerning DDS. He CAN come back to it when he feels like it.
oh great apparently not only am I missing the red key, I'm missing the yellow key which is required to obtain the red key
WHY THE FUCK DID ALL THESE KEYS BECOME MANDATORY ONLY AT THE FINAL DUNGEON
>Meanwhile in /pg/
>People justifying day 1 on-disc DLC
>mfw I planned this all along and it worked
Tear them apart from the inside.
It's what I'm here for after all, guinea pig.
"Strange! that you should not have suspected years ago -- centuries, ages, eons, ago! -- for you have existed, companionless, through all the eternities. Strange, indeed, that you should not have suspected that your universe and its contents were only dreams, visions, fiction! Strange, because they are so frankly and hysterically insane -- like all dreams: a God who could make good children as easily as bad, yet preferred to make bad ones; who could have made every one of them happy, yet never made a single happy one; who made them prize their bitter life, yet stingily cut it short; who gave his angels eternal happiness unearned, yet required his other children to earn it; who gave his angels painless lives, yet cursed his other children with biting miseries and maladies of mind and body; who mouths justice and invented hell -- mouths mercy and invented hell -- mouths Golden Rules, and forgiveness multiplied by seventy times seven, and invented hell; who mouths morals to other people and has none himself; who frowns upon crimes, yet commits them all; who created man without invitation, then tries to shuffle the responsibility for man's acts upon man, instead of honorably placing it where it belongs, upon himself; and finally, with altogether divine obtuseness, invites this poor, abused slave to worship him!...
It is true, that which I have revealed to you; there is no God, no universe, no human race, no earthly life, no heaven, no hell. It is all a dream -- a grotesque and foolish dream. Nothing exists but you. And you are but a thought -- a vagrant thought, a useless thought, a homeless thought, wandering forlorn among the empty eternities!
He vanished, and left me appalled; for I knew, and realized, that all he had said was true."
There's a reason for that. There's a handful of autists who sit on all day every day to crack down on any conversation here they dislike. Which since their standards are so arbitrary this means that no matter what you talk about at least one to two sperging autists will be bitching that you shouldn't. So a lot of people got fed up and moved on, leaving the dead general you see now.
Isamu, just because you have to jerk yourself off doesn't mean that everyone either ha to, or doesn't exist. Other people can interact jsut fine.
I need to start playing that again. Have no idea where I'm currently at.
Still amusing that there's a toilet ghost who teaches you how to play it and pays you money when you beat succeed.
It's been so long since I've dicked around in the Casino, I wasted my fucking time using Blackjack when Poker is #1.
Best and or worst games in your opinion?
no save states
I can get the reasons for Tatsuya and Tanaka, but I'm drawing a blank on what would qualify Yu as bisexual.
[spoilers]Besides getting his udders milked by the hard, cold fingers of Daddy ATLUS[/spoilers]
Fuck, did I put a space in there? I screwed that up. Unfortunate.
He has the option to kiss Teddie until Dojima enters and cockblocks, teasing Yosuke, and he can make a cop question his sexuality by asking for his number.
>All this 4chan drama that's been going on
I never thought I would have an opportunity to use this image. Give us oblivion.
Some questions about Devil Survivor OC please:
1. How important is Null-Curse skill? I thought it prevented all status effects but after wasting all my Macca to get it on the demon I want it actually doesn't, meh.
2. Are status effect skills worth having for 7/8th days?
3. Is there any point in having elemental/physical attack skills if you can just spam Megido?
I can honestly say that I never had any issues with status effects, nor did I ever have to use them.
The elemental dances can still ruin people's days but your best bets are Holy Dance/Megido/
let's see your best smtg
free shipping if you live in US
Thanks. I had some fun at first but the gameplay seems shallow as fuck now so I don't think I want to waste anymore time on it.
Endgame is basically about fusing a bunch of different looking demons but with exact same skills set and shit on everything isn't it? No diversity at all. (Medigoladyne/Drain/*/Anti-All/Phys Drain/*)
You can throw in some physical hitters and they can potentially keep up with your magic dudes, but otherwise yeah, it's all about the nukes.
The Megidoladyne thing was a joke. Real spoiler: you can't use it in-game, but Lucifer will use it against you.
-nice press turn system with some unique things like barriers
-strong focus on customization of party members, can pick and choose what spells they learn
-interesting (although at times annoyingly vague) storyline
-pretty meaty in terms of length
Didn't even realize I could for a non-ridiculous sum. Somehow expected it'd be the sort of game I'd have to shell out a lot to some ebay collector for, but looks like it's only $15 on Amazon so maybe not such a bad idea.
Though $15 is still more than free...
Yup, pretty sure they were.
This arrived today actually, don't know when I'm gonna start playing since I'm working through SMT IV, but I gotta say it felt good getting a brand new PS2 game, brought me back.
He should have been in Nocturne in this badass form.
Funny thing about this is that his devil trigger design was made as part of a deal with Capcom to let them use Dante when in exchange Atlus had Kaneko work on some designs for Devil May Cry 3.
2 hour dead period.
Discuss this graph? Some parts of it make sense...
Tell me your ideals, Anon!
So that I may twist them into your undoing!
That doesn't make him bisexual, only bi-curious.
Tanaka is a pedophile, not a bisexual. That's a difference.
Tatsuya is pretty much 100% straight since canon choice is Maya.
I know it might be hard for you to acknowledge but the game gives open room for each player to get their own conclusions about that
Who died and left you in charge of what's canon or not in P2?
Yeah, and that's what makes him straight.
Jun's love for Tatsuya was also one sided.
Just because Jun was a fag doesn't make Tatsuya one.
And none of the options in Golden imply that Yu is bisexual, just bi-curious.
Actually according to the Persona World Guide Jun is the only one who doesn't appear in the one-sided crush chart.
>Maki » Pierce Boy
>Elly » Pierce Boy
>Mark » Maki
>Lisa » Tatsuya
>Tatsuya » Maya
>Katsuya » Maya
>Ulala » Baofu
>Okamura Maya » Kashihara
In my understanding being "bisexual" means feeling attraction to both men and women. So having a crush on someone of the opposite gender isn't proof of this 100% straight for the rest of his life thing, you see where I'm getting at?
I still think that if romantic options towards the opposite gender are available for protagonists, one could totally see them as being bisexual
What would even draw the line between bisexual and "just bi-curious" options anyway? Hug Yosuke the same way you'd do to a girl at their social link max event is the bi-curious answer and "Shove it up his ass" the bisexual one, right?
Because Decarabia is everywhere
> Maya spurting her catchphrase on him was literally all it took
Sometimes that's all it takes to steal a man's heart.
Are there any more of these awesome, old school MegaTen gifs? I only have two, but they're my favorite things to ever be posted here
>So much silence.
>So much stillness.
>Make it stop.
>MAKE IT STOP.
MAKE IT STOP!
Ey bros, le's talk bout mah nigga Cielo 'ere.
E's gud yeah?
>someone calculated that EP is in early 2000
I thought that person calculated it to be in summer of 2000. If that's the case then how is Tatsuya still at school if he was a senior in April 1999? School would have resumed for the following year in April 2000.
I'm not too sure if I get what you're saying, but if Tatsuya is a senior starting April 1999 then he is a senior until March 2000. Anyway, EPP's additional scenario starts in autumn, so there's a sort of timeframe for that.
hey /smtg/ im a persona scrub who wants to play mainline SMT but im also poor so
what are the best smt games for
>Game boy advance
>Game boy advance
Demikids, if you hate yourself.
Shit's all in Japanese nigger, but SMT1, 2, IF
Also here be Persona 1 and Persona 2
SMT1, 2 which have eng patches, and Kyuuyaku Megami Tensei.
>Playing Persona on the PS1
I'd rather die.
Nah man the Black Butterfly is Nyarly's symbol.
So he is still alive
until Shadow Aigis crushed it in her intro.
It's got complex dungeons, though. I'll stay inside.
I saw what that person calculated before and I thought it was in summer of 2000. If that is the case, then why is Tatsuya and Anna still at school if it's after their presupposed graduation?
So it's 1999 like we all assumed then? It makes more sense that way.
Chances are they didn't think it out that well when it comes to what takes place when and why Kyouji has so much free time. At least parts of P1 and DS1 both take place in '96, and at least parts of P2 and SH take place in '99, with Rei and others saying SH is 3 years after the incident in Hirasaki City, and Eikichi's line towards the end of IS about it being "almost the 21st century/new millennium'.
Turns out it was actually "we're nearly into the 21st century", but same basic idea.
I'm with you on that. Sometimes I think the fans reach a little too deep on the lore crap and wind up very disappointed when Atlus churns out a shallow truth.
Thanks Ultimax. I won't ever dream again.
posting palettes is okay but lots of people have seen them before
so when asked to put his tripcode back on he freaked out and said that anyone who wanted him to do so was a big samefag
like, you know how some shitposters quote a whole bunch of posts and say "samefag detected" or some shit? he nonironically did that
>All those posts do look like blatant samefag tho, he has a point there
So? It's still not a good defense. That wasn't even the only argument he used; he also said that everyone who disagreed with him needed to go back to /v/
>Just close your eyes and step away from the screen nigga.
For anyone interested, Atlus has put all it's PSN shit on sale again in North America starting today.
$3.99 for: P2:EP(PS1), P3FES, both Raidou Devil Summoner games
$4.99 for: P1P, P2P:IS, P3P
$7.99 for: Nocturne, DDS1&2, P4 (PS2)
$9.99 for: P4 Arena
$14.99 for P4A Ultimate Edition (all the DLC included)
$19.99 for P4 Golden
I'm going to buy DDS1 2 and Persona 3 fes.
Thanks for letting me know anon.
Not really, at least a few of them are too close. Besides, no one who does work around /pg/ or /smtg/ is that much of an asshole. You never see scanbro or the debisama guys acting that way.
Did someone post under my name on here or something? I only really use it to discuss project updates anyway and that one podcast we had, but that's it.
So the normal soldier was once playable in DeSu.
Also, God's Love is why Abel became a Bel.
And Keisuke dies in the manga at Kaido's hands.
Nice gif. I'll take that.
Heavily HEAVILY implied.
Oh the moral decisions...
>God's love made Abel a Bel
I'm OK with this
>Kaido kills Keisuke
That DOES happen if you fuck up in-game. Glad they kept that.
RIP Keisuke. ;_;
NO MATTER HOW DANGEROUS...
He does have yellow eyes in Demifiend form. In human form they're either gray OR blue, can't remember off the top of my head.
>implying you even know what autism is
I need more good gifs like this one. Got more?
Please tell me you do.
>Playing Nocturne right now
>2nd Kalpa grindfest
>Remember reading a few threads ago about an Anon grinding in First Kalpa and encountering a Level 60 Rangda in Hard Mode
>Pretty much the same thing happening to me right now
>Part of me is fucking terrified he'll use Mahamaon before I kill his 420 HP, and it'll land on my MC (have Anathema equipped)
>Other part of me wondering how much exp and Macca he's worth when I'm level 39 and he's 54.
>What do I do?
I'm not grinding for me, I'm grinding for my demons. So they'll learn all their skills so I can save em in the Compendium and fuse em off.
Its a completion thing, all right?
>not going for TDE on your first playthrough
I went Neutral on my first playthrough.
Was going for TDE, but didn't know you can't access 5th Kalpa after you enter Tower of Kagutsuchi. I tried, but Lucy wasn't there anymore, so I got locked out of it. Damn shame.
Did you know how to do everything the first time you played Nocturne?
I played normally until i reached the final dungeon.
I only used a guide in order to find the hidden boss i missed.
I knew Nocturne had this policy of multiple endings and secret bosses,so i made a save before i went into the final dungeon.
You thought it was Nyarly, but it was really Cthulhu!
Black Froston my first playthrough completely by accident.
And then he used Mamudoon on me the first round and it was the only time in that playthrough that an Instant death spell worked on Demifiend.
I know thats why I was pointing it out
they look the same
>he loves fat girls
>always showing you their pictures
>reach minotaur in smtIV
>have three sources of healing, two demons and myself with bufu, rakukaja sakukaja and tarukaja
>mfw labrys strike crits twice and he follows it up with two more crit oni-kaguras, wiping my whole party
dude what the fuck
>Most unlucky for you!
>I'LL SHOW YOU MY POWER! AGI!
I ordered the softcover from Amazon without even realizing there was a hardcover option. Oh well.
Personafag here playing through SMTIV. I know if you make yourself immune (resistant?) to everything in Persona and you fight a bonus boss, they'll Megidolaon you to death. I know that's the same for SMT, but I looked at the different armors available - you can't get resistance to all damage, let alone immunity. What does it take to send a bonus boss into Megidolaon mode?
I'm playing Persona 1 and havent't really upgraded my personas beyond MC's. Party's around level 30 and I just finished the Lost Forest, what are some decent healing personas? Especially one that learns some variety of media would be nice.
Demons and God in SMT are more of ideas than they are literal. They represent ideologies, where "God" is the collective, and "demons" are people willing to push forward to accomplish shit for themself. So the whole narrative of humans deciding for themselves is basically arbitrarily deciding that those ones "don't count." The demons literally say that they're born from humans wanting the ideology they give too. So killing them is literally killing human ideology. The narrative basically breaks down entirely, and it comes off like hypocritically defining certain things as alien just to not have to consider them.
>The demons literally say that they're born from humans wanting the ideology they give too. So killing them is literally killing human ideology.
No, it's literally killing representations of human ideology. You have to take into account that demons are influenced by what humans perceive them as, but still have free will. That's how you get niggers like Mastema that technically follow the "rules" of their alignment, but are ultimately in it for themselves.
The Beelzebub fight in SMTIV was fucking insane.
It was pretty refreshing to find out that if you use Tetrakarn on the red knight he won't Megidolaon you to death though.
In which SMT game is Beelzebub absolute bullshit?
Mastema is devout to God though even with his ulterior motives.
Heck everything he did in SJ was still part of the Three Wise Men's plan to fulfill's YHVH agenda to have his ego stroked 24/7.
I'm in the Ueno area in SMT IV, and I've opened up the terminal.
I've been exploring Tokyo and I swear to god I have no idea where to go.
I know I need to get someone's head, but I don't know where to find him.
>NG+ on SMTIV
>Finish buying the apps I want (MP recovery, Compendium discounts etc.)
>Still 418 app points left
Well shit, what the hell do I spend these on?
>buff and debuff enemy to max
>Dekaja, Dekunda in same turn
Here's a tip: Attack Mirror is your friend. If you manage to get him down to red HP before your turn ends, pop an Impel Stone, soften him up a bit further than finish up with an Attack Mirror. He ALWAYS kicks off the final phase of the battle with Omnipotence, and bouncing it back via the Attack Mirror will deal around 6-700 damage to him, possibly finishing him off right there. Plus it cancels his turn, meaning you don't need to suffer through the Megidolaon he casts afterwards.
Betatron was pretty easy though, truth be told.
Basically this, just do whatever you can to skip or minimize the last 25% hp phase. I had a mind charge on Gale and got lucky with a Skull Cleave crit by Serph and he died without casting Omnipotence once (if he had it was game over since it literally destroyed everyone or left them at 10% or so, on hard mode, guess I was slightly underlevelled).
Well, I beat the demiurge solo in strange journey.
That was... boring, if I'm being perfectly honest. These new game plus ex missions really needed to be available the first time around. I guess all that's left this run is to go see the look on zelenin's stupid face as I roll through the final battle and wreck her with a bunch of high level law demons
>listen to SMTG sings Lone Prayer
>getting flashbacks to Persona 1 random encounters like some sort of PTSD victim
I dont even have a hardon for the original music, And I love P3 and P4s music. Can someone tell me where P1P went so wrong. Why is this song so terrible.