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Just leaving this here in case somebody needs it
>P1P music unfuck patch by canzah ISO
‘EL ELOHIM ELOHO ELOHIM SEBAOTH’
‘ELION EIECH ADIER EIECH ADONAI’
‘JAH SADAI TETRAGRAMMATON SADAI’
‘AGIOS O THEOS ISCHIROS ATHANATOS’
Theres a line in one of the Metal Gear games where they explain what something means in Japanese and I always wondered how explaining Japanese in Japanese would work.
"kami means kami" doesn't really make sense
You can use different "letters" that mean the same thing. idk japanese is weird. Maybe someone who understands it more can explain.
If you watch anime... like, I think there's a scene with Naomi in Death Note. How she says her name is spelled with the kanji for _____.
Are shadows in Persona 2, 3, and 4 all totally different conceptually?
In Persona 2 you fought off your shadow. Persona 4 implied thats literally impossible. Persona 3 seemed to be doing something different all together.
Different kinds. Shadows in IS were created from rumors and you still never actually beat them because they were a part of you
Shadows in 4 were literal reflections of your true self and you needed to accept them to get a persona. Or something
I don't remember 3 having many player shadows
Persona 2 shadows aren't your true shadows.
They're shadows created by Nyarlathotep for the sole purpose of murdering you, same as Arena shadows. It's also one of the reason why people were thinking Nyarly was the Arena antagonist.
You couldnt beat the shadows in P4 by fighting them alone. If you reject them they'll stay around.They weren't beat because you beat them, they were beat because their humans accepted them.
They are a part of you in the same way Nyarlathotep is part of every human. They're just fragments of Nyarlathotep. Nyarly knows everything about everyone because he IS all of humanity.
but they explicitly mention that they'll never go away because they're part of you
shit, they even use Reverse Personas and if you bring in your ultimate persona to fight them the personas have a conversation
Which part of
>Nyarlathotep is part of every human
Do you not understand?
They aren't P4 type shadows which are just manifestations of your insecurities.
They are literally Nyarlathotep fucking with you and exposing your weaknesses.
In both cases you can't kill them but they're still fundamentally different.
So is this True Anon Edition, then?
You'll need this music for it:
I like how for some inexplicable reason, Nyarlathotep is on that list.
Oops. Forgot the obligatory:
I highly doubt you do.
Wow, that's what i get from thinking that she's an interesting character without knowing the game, which one of them was you guys favorite route then? Another quick question(Yes i'm a lawfag) do you kill angels in Yuzu's OC route? One of you mentioned that:
>The closest thing to a route Midori has is the one where you become another bitch-ass Messiah.
Welp, i'm a Messiah and i'd like to ask, are you refering to Amane's route? If not what is it?
Yes, you kill angels with Yuzu. Although it's cute helping out your bubbly childhood friend and even though she does have super big and firm tits, her route is pretty much the "bad end" of the game
Why is elly so perfect?
>except for her shoes
>fuck that shoes
The real bad end for DeSu is the one where you help
There's no real reason to suspect that Adachi would be the killer other than him being the only otherwise unimportant character with a portrait and him dropping off that stupid fucking letter before Nanako gets kidnapped. Of all of the things P4 is shit at being a murder mystery easily tops the list
>Slime will never regurgitate you a Odd Morsel for you to share
>you will never stroke his head while he wriggles around mindlessly
>you will never summon him just to hold him in your arms as you drift to sleep
>he will never whisper "UUUrrRRryyayaaaaargHHGGGhhhh" to you when he thinks you are sleeping
>Why is SMT2 mostly inferior when it comes to music
it has a decent battle theme, a better boss theme, a shop theme on par with I's and one good town theme
it only really fails in the areas they were trying to make it more atmospheric, like the underworld
>Mothman will never Endure a hit for you
I didn't really like how most of the choices are someone turning to you and asking "Are you law or chaos?" Rather than having to make tough decisions regarding your actions. On the other hand the questions they ask you are pretty tough to answer so they do their job of encouraging critical thinking about the whole alignment thing
Dahn just explained his side and i kinda agreed with him more.Nagi keeps criticising my choices,i'm trying to answer everything from the heart but i'm sympathizing with both sides.
I didnt even know there was alignments.
>Protector of capital
Are you retarded or just not faithful to your Kuzunoha name?
And the chaotic choice is to oppose Dahn for putting the people of the capital in danger and causing their deaths.
Raidou can be chaotic and be its protector, Amatsu-Mikaboshi even makes note of it on Chaos/Neutral that just because he is serving the Yatagarasu doesn't mean he's one of their blind followers.
You mean Amatsu.
I'm not good with this "deep" stuff because i still don't understand myself.
Dahn has caused the deaths of a few unlucky people in order to save his sister.
I don't agree with killing people for his means but i dont want to stop him i want him to change his way.So i'm locked in two roads.
The one that is against Dahn and supporting the monstrous marriage ritual.
Or the one that turns a blind eye to Dahn's crimes and actions.
The correct choice as the Devil Summoner would be to destroy Dahn but i cant do it as a person.
I want Dahn to pay for crimes but i want to save his sister.
Maybe i'm overthing things.
Dahn's not just doing it for his sister. If saving her was there was to it he would have done that a long time ago.
He's also trying to help the people who suffer under the heavy taxes caused by the Tento Lords, who are Lawfags that abuse their power cause they hate humans.
likes the Mushibito, the ones belonging to the race that don't ruin the village and make the Luck Locusts, and live in seclusion due to the fact that they don't hate humans but are cursed and hated by man, all the while following the prophecies of Lord Bellzeboo!"
The Amatsu call them Hebrew Gods in SMTII if I remember right and the Celtic Fae call them the Hebrew Holy Forces. Though I wouldn't be surprised if they called them Gods in the Japanese version.
Abusing power isn't something a lawfulfag should do.
That isn't justice thats corruption.
I can understand the marriage ritual because it is a law but it doesnt mean its right.
Dahn is a hero trying to break a corrupt sistem
Hugo does it plenty in IV and the Ashura-kai even has a member who admits they have been scamming the people of Tokyo.
Justice and Law sometimes go together and other times it doesn't.
You just seem like a blind lawfag to me.
Its more like
1: law is preservation of order
2: for preservation of order to be justified there has to be a greater purpose.
3: Thus the goal of law when done right should be maximization of justice and fairness.
However, it is not necessarily inherently those things. Bad law is when it is preserving a bad order.
So you're telling me Law is corrupt?
I was blind for not noticing a bunch of Lawfags were actually a bunch of evil assholes that exploit people.
People shouldn't have to suffer.
That's hilarious son of man.
We must make use of those who are corrupt and wicked to fulfill a world of Law, and those who suffer under their hands are an acceptable sacrifice.
Just so you know King Abaddon
is a system set up by God that the villain uses to his fulfill his goal. Several of the beings he summons are the Four Horsemen who serve God and a Ophanim alongside the Apollyon.
Those the new Archangel designs in SMT IV? Damn they look cool.
Then again, weren't the Archangels described as horrifying eldritch abominations in all holy books in real life? That's why they say "Fear Not" each time they show up, right?
Seems to me you and Remiel would get along just fine. Remiel is the only angel (in DeSu and OC) who outright says "I...want to save everyone.". It is also explicitly mentioned that all other angels refuse to believe Remiel and his idea of "salvation for all", even for people they deem beyond saving, and keep bitching about it, asking to him more or less "why are you stopping us from killing people who aren't Law?".
Remiel and Amane are the only reasons why I went Amane's route on my first playthrough of DeSu. Also first time going Law at all. Felt good.
That's Sraosha and Armaiti, Heralds who originate in Zoroastrianism and first appeared in the Devil Summoner games.
They have a alien appearance because they originated outside of the Abrahamic lore, but were angelized over time.
There's another benevolent angel in the series who has never shown a side of dickery.
Nathanael in Devil Children. Raziel might count too since he knows everything and doesn't help the other Angels with their genocidal schemes.
See what I said about Remiel here: >>79945692
Speaking of which, here is a picture of him by Kaneko. You only seem him in his true form, as in this, on Naoya's Route where you
are forced to kill Amane. ;_;
evil Overlord 8th Day. She lives and joins him on the good one.
I'M GONNA NAP NOW BUT I NEED MORE PICTURES OF MY MAIN MAN, METATRON.
YOU GUYS BETTER HAVE POSTED SOME FOR ME TO SAVE WHEN I WAKE UP.
This pic I have of him is positively shining with his love.
Have you watched noah? The entire point of the story in II is that you live in a world that's so shit that attempts to continue on from there are very unlikely to work out as expected. Even in neutral, you kill everyone on the ark, and keep oppressing the mutants. Lucifer straight up admits on chaos that law's plans would work, and that they would be able to create a peaceful world if they did that. Law isn't doing it for the handful of people who would survive. They're doing it for the countless future generations who would live there.
Fuck off Momonofu, you'll never understand how deep our relationship is.
The problem is that chaos favoritism is so strong that they don't even follow their own logic. Angels have been sold as calm / patient / stoic / a little trouble seeing people as individuals / will do anything to prevent strife / etc since the beginning... but... the main characters don't seem to match the tone that they as a whole are supposed to have.
The main four other than Gabriel come off like fighters. Especially michael.
YHVH is a dick, but that at least makes sense in contest.
mastema is funny and cunning. Lets not even get into his breakdown.
Satan is a weird demon thing. He's honestly the closest there is, and yet hasn't been a main character in ages.
Kagatsuchi is... apathetic about what choice you pick, as long as you pick something?
There's not only no nice angels, there's barely even any angels who act like what the game presents a how angels act.
So, what happened to Devil Summoner PSP translation attempts?
And what about PS1 Soul Hackers?
In chaos he does. But he also mentions that there's a clusterfuck going on with re-assimilation, and this is what Iv's ending is based off of. It bears all the same problems, and of course in that ending demons are now a permanent staple on earth.
Kagatsuchi wants a Reason, but if you don't pick the three Reasons ingame he gets made and will fight you depending on whether you are a weak willed bitch or not.
The Three Wise Men are following Gods plan for humanity, which Mastema is using to get a promotion in the process.
Metatron shows his ruthless side if he thinks you oppose God or do something that pisses him off.
Demiurge in IV is one of YHVH's Godlys and has gone rogue.
This isn't even getting into the Japanese only games in the series like Majin Tensei.
There are sane ones amongst them and even honorable ones at that.
One NPC you can talk to before you go into Xi Wangmu's domain to fight her says that they know fighting her is a suicide mission, but they want to inspire the people to stand up for themselves against demons.
Minako likewise sought to place Astartoh in charge of the Ring of Gaea and leaves that group when that plan falls apart, instead trying to revive Ishtar in order to restore life to the dying land of Tokyo.
There's one female member on the Neutral route who admits she just wanted a place to belong, but all the people she cared about and Lady Yuriko are dead, so she decides to believe in Flynn and wants to try to make the other Gaeans change for the better.
FUCKING CASUAL SCUM
I'm playing Strange Journey right now.
All I ever heard about this game was "Dungeons so hard waaah" and "fookin' converyror belts fuuuu" but I'm having a blast figuring out Delphinus and I can't wait for the harder sections.
Dark roomscan get fucked though. gib link pls
>tfw no Thrift shop feat Aleph and Ubergestalt Gore
Still going, VWF is a bitch.
In the Persona Q trailer was I the only one that thought that ripped plushy was Maya's doll? Its at the one minute mark.
>iOS version of SMT1 is based on GBA which is based on PSX
>based no PSX
Also it's inconsistent as fuck (some games have descriptions of setting/core story, others don't) and has bullshit /smtg/ maymays and shit like "in the pastebin".
It's supposed to be a starter guide to newfags, not a circlejerk fanwank for /smtg/ regulars.
It's going, we're still inserting the text and have to finish the VWF, which is a long process. There's not a whole lot for me to update with at the moment other than that, though.
Also the part under KMT description that says it's an adaptation of the first book of Digital Devil Story, utter bullshit too.
MT1 is a loose sequel to the second book, and MT2 is totally original game.
>tfw will never be elly's sex slave that she abuses in horrible and depraving ways
IS THAT ALL?
I HAD A FREAKING DREAM IN WHICH I GOT ONE MORE IMAGE THAN THAT.
tfw the Wizardry IP is dormant but Atlus/Sega won't pick it up
Instead it'll probably stay dead, or someone like Square Enix, Bethesda, EA or Activision will take it
what game is this
appears at the 25:25 mark
Not in my experience. Though I still don't recommend Persona 3 as a game to start off with. It and 4 are just so different from the rest of the series that you might get the wrong impression.
I just took a shower and masturbated with a finger up my ass while humming SMT battle themes.
>based on PSX
It is though. GBA version's graphics are still-renders of the PSX's graphics with the colors altered for a non-backlit screen. The world map is original though. GBA version is basically a downgraded PSX version rather than being based on the SNES version. Stop getting mad about shit you don't understand.
>bullshit /smtg/ maymays and shit like "in the pastebin".
>It's supposed to be a starter guide to newfags, not a circlejerk fanwank for /smtg/ regulars.
Fuck off. It's a starter guide for people who would otherwise come in here and ask questions. It's not meant to be posted all over the internet.
Lotus position. I believe he's based on certain monks who would fast for months, then get buried alive. I think. I can't remember exactly how it went, all I know is that monks put the human body through trials that some would only dream of.
P2 EP PSP remake is not localized, as such I don't recommend going from PSP IS to PSX EP, unless you're a masochist.
But if you go from PSX IS to PSX EP, it will feel like natural improvement.
So, you'd want to eat a full portion shit every ~750-800th meal?
There are so many anons here arguing with stupid logic like that, I really wonder how old you must be to have such a mindset.
Because who the fuck cares about one post, I dont find it funny but it's fine, why the fuck would such a simple post make you so angry?
I'm literally enjoying grinding in P1P because of the music patch, that combat music is so hype.
I put the iso on mediafire
You're the 45th person to download this
You didn't understand my post? It doesn't matter how many. A shitpost is a shitpost and if you too don't think it's funny why encouraging that 12 year old in continuing to take a shit every thread. He really does think what he writes is funny and a lot of people would miss him if he stopped.
I'm not angry, why would I be? Also that was my first post, so I'm not 79991617 if you thought that.
Is bloody destiny gone?
Please tell me it isn't
I think I'm lucky because I played P2IS PSX before the psp version came out, I played P2IS PSP and its so much better, can't see how somebody could go from this to the old games, I dont think I could...
If you don't like these one you're not a normal human being
It is, but how could you prefer j pop (not even good j pop like P3/P4) to the amazing original boss battle, shit is so hype for those really long boss battles
Not even going to delete this post and fix it, that's what the jews would want
I guess I might like it because I played P1 all the time as teen, the battle tracks just gets me hype as fuck
Keep in mind in the original game the moment you press the battle command the song skips the intro section (or if a scripted part that has the character attack for example it'll skip to the main part of the song). That applies to the Queen of the Night and Child Abuse songs as well.
I don't know I haven't tried the patch, I'd assume the person who made the patch just used the main part of the songs since the PSP version doesn't have intro sections to the boss themes.
What is the best build for Strange Journey?
Gun? Magic? Sword?
Play P1 with the music patch, if you enjoy smt in the slightest you'll enjoy it, trust me...
Why is Groove on Fight better then Arena by miles?
The volume is untouched from the OST and many people complained about original P1P music being far too loud anyway, so I don't think I'll be changing volume.
And now you're resorting to hyperbole.
Also footsteps were always CLACKCLACKCLACK
>many people complained about original P1P music being far too loud anyway
THIS, i can hear the voices during battle now plus I get to listen to the
mortal kombat: persona 1 battle theme
>Aleph is rewarded
>Abel is unrewarded
Also, is that the nigga from Trinity Soul?
I mean at least use cheats that dont take away ALL the difficulty, its prob really boring to go through dungeons killing everything in one hit or using estoma so you dont fight anything
Allow me to breathe some life your pathetic thread, so you sinful mortal humans have your "shitposting"! You abhor it yet adore it, all the same! Your hypocrisy fills me with joy!
Just remember, you so-called "fat neckbeard autists" owe all in your miserable existences here to ME!
Understand, that there is no point in living! Cry, that there is no answer! Where there is darkness there are shadows! I, myself, am all of you humans!
Currently facing Lachesis on Nocturne. How the fuck do I counter this tetrakarn / makarakarn bullshit without losing all my turns?
Almighty to bypass Makarakarn?
Not sure how I approached the fight t be honest. I definitely took out Clotho asap, as denying them heals is imperative.
Then if you're confident on your survivability, take out Lachesis. If not sure, take down Atropos.
Good luck though, man. The Magatama you get out of it is useful as hell.
They shouldve at least mentioned her in P2 for fucks sake she just disappeared after P1
>What do you mean, do you only have to fight one?
No, he's confused and thinks you're on a different fight. After you beat all 3 of them separately you have to fight all 3 at once
Stop having a sperg. He's not in the way, and its not like we can stop it. Miraianon is board culture. How fucking banal do you want the board to be? Because you can always go to gamefaqs like we want you to so that we don't have to deal with you.
oh christ, well that sounds fun
I may be a bit underleveled too, I'm at 39 on MC, using Daisoujou, Matador and Berith. Really gonna suck dick if I have to go back and grind, since climbing this Obelisk was the least fun part of Nocturne so far
I already played P1P 100% legit. I'd say I did my fair share of tedium in P1 already as a result.
Thus I'm just going full cheese in Revelations to see the localization changes and enjoy all dis music.
Nagi shits on everyone's opinion. He's what the elitists on 4chan idolize and actually aspire to: Breaking everyone's opinions and being a dick.
I like how you're neutral/law. I'm not strictly neutral myself. Gotta have that perfect blend of herbs and spices - I mean ideas and Reasons.
See Kagutsuchi all the way above you? How would one ascend to him?
>feel like it's been long enough that the idea of replaying half of SMT2 doesn't seem so painful anymore
>go straight to the casino
>juke the high/low game with save states
>solo coast through the early game w/ the stupidly high-token weapons
>forget canon names give you law points
>forget to recruit until after
>forget to eventually buy better equipment
>everything in the gulags is kicking my ass now
Nobody but myself to blame. Nadje pretty much coasts you through the gulag though, doesn't she?
>>juke the high/low game with save states
go keno or go home
>saw keno machine irl recently
>said this is keno... its really keen
>security/employee dude chuckles as he walks by
>no save states irl so didnt play
>not spending 20-30 hours in the casino in persona 1 because gambling is fun as fuck
Just picked up Devil Summoner 1 & 2 from a local game shop, how are they?
I've played the rest of the PS2 SMT/Atlus titles, and several others, but I've never heard anyone talk about the Devil Summoner games and was hoping you guys would know.
Sons of Man! It's that time of the thread!
Post your favorite area themes!
Here's the twist, though:
Areas that have no enemy encounters.
Allow me to start with this relaxing serene theme, fitting music for watching rain fall peacefully...
It's fucking music. Stop shitting yourself over this.
If you really wanna "prove yourself", post music back. See if you're fit for a World of Music - I mean Mag
>Everyone should be as hostile as possible because it facilitates better discussion
/a/ please go
Play DDS or Raidou or Main line or Persona.
>Worst party member has the worst opinion
>Play DDS or Raidou or Main line or Persona.
You are very helpful in my decision.
You really want me to spell it out for you?
You can pick any game because they are all great and a bit similar.
But if you want me to choose i say Raidou 1 and 2.I picked Raidou because i want you to suffer playing Raidou 1 and have a good time on Raidou 2.
Which game has the best demon negotiation?
Do you guys think it should be added in Persona 5?
Do you guys actually like the random question being asked at the end in some games, I think it's a stupid. I do enjoy how it gives demons a personality though, I wish you could talk to them before fusion and see what they have to say.
Strange Journey and SMTIV have my favorite negotiations. SJ's are the most well-written and logical, and SMTIV's have made me laugh plenty of times and I really like how they added strategy to the gift-giving part of negotiation
>Raidou opened the letter
>It was from Raiho
>It was illegible and stained with tears
>Raidou opened the letter
>It was from Angel
ur a faget
>Grandparents came to visit for a couple weeks
>Last day, my grandmother asks me to drive her around town to do some errands with her
>Have my iPhone on shuffle while driving around
>Suddenly the Tokyo Overworld Theme from SMT IV plays
>Turn it up a little since it's a personal favorite
>Grandma tells me she really likes the song, and cant believe it's from a game
>Turn on my SMT playlist for the rest of the day
>She loves every single bit, asks me to make her a copy of the entire playlist
So there you have it. My fucking grandma loves SMT music.
WHY WOULD YOU FAGGOTS DO THIS
>wonder why the fuck I'm out of macca all the time
>get to Valhalla again
Oh yeah, now I don't have to pay hand over fist for revives now. Also, thinking about it, I really like how SMT2 fakes you out with the
MY VILLAGE BURNED DOWN WHILE I WAS GONEtrope by leaving it long enough that you aren't expecting it, while still foreshadowing something with the constant earthquakes.
The best SMT music is either https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7KSHyF_X2M or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuQtIvbkurs. Honourary shoutout to the entire DDS1/2 soundtrack.
Keno is too
keento play with savestates. I like getting the items out of BIG AND SMALL WITH HUNTER CHANCE too.
I loved SJ's writing and Nocturne's skill system for interacting with negotiation. I can't play SMT4 yet but I feel like I'll love that as well. It should maybe be in P5 but with some sort of tarot twist on it.
why would anyone want to play the slow as hell PS1 soul hackers when the 3DS version is the same game but much faster?
I'd much rather see the saturn version, since thats the only one thats actually different