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>Starter guide
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10886965/smtstarterguide.png

>Tips and tricks
http://pastebin.com/qqxkrWFh

>Artbook, soundtrack, manga, and other downloads
http://pastebin.com/fgVp423S

>Misc. Translations
http://pastebin.com/LHKVLNQB

>Booru
http://smtg.booru.org/

>Recommended Reading
http://pastebin.com/YppqPPjf

Previous thread: >>79210660
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Still playing KMT.
If I beat this, is every game getting easier?
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>>79336412
kinda... KMT is nice because pretty much the whole game is an endurance run...

HP and MP are very low for the damage you take so it does a very good job of making you feel at danger
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would you a elly?
i would a elly
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why
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>>79336564
Is there a level guide so I don't go too deep before getting fucked?

The floors aren't even big. I don't even have a large amount of room to grind.
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>>79336802
yes, definitely yes
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>Replay DDS
>Decide to do something different and make Serph phys-oriented
>Get to Maribel HQ
>Realise that by selling Great Chakras and Soma Drops I can buy Holy Beast mantra for Serph
>Remember there's a Field Hunt nearby
>Somehow manage to devour two Ara Mitamas and kill a third
>Holy Beast is mastered instantly
>mfw Serph kills everything in 1-2 hits
>mfw when Serph has infinite MP and healing
>mfw when everyone masters mantras faster than I can afford to buy new ones
>mfw all this before the second boss
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>>79338736
>my face when when
Come on, you know better than this.
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>>79338984
S-sorry
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Will we ever see another Raidou?
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SMT4 in Yurop when?
;_;
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>>79340171
Late October.
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>>79340171
soon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCdT59_cov0 [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEtRzDYYBuY [Embed]
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In KMT1 when you lose a level, do you lose any stat gains from said level as well? I assume yes, but just wanted to make sure.
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>>79287102
>dont bother with buying gear that early in the game, it barely makes a difference at all

you are a goddamned liar
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>>79292431
do you know if fixing font in smt2 is going to happen?
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>>79343404
Dude, I came to the thread to say he exact same thing, ARE YOU ME?

Just had a vampire drain a level from Yumiko, although doesn't really matter since I got a pretty beefed up party but I can't remember all her stats so...does level drain affects only the level or the bonus points that you gained?
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>>79337431
Level Guide:
Can you beat the boss?

>Yes
You are the correct level.

>No
git gud
Fuse new demons, the highest level ones you can.
The first boss is level 27. So good luck, son of man.
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>>79295731
>2nd attempt at the minotaur right now, first time yumiko ran out of mp so i had no way of healing

Keep a Cerberus with you. When you use revive, you get your MP capped too.
I kind of want to get two demons with it, so I can abuse the fuck out of it.
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>>79296176
>it's a healing item (life stone equivalent I assume)

Jewel is way better than a shitty Life Stone. It's supposed to completely heal you, and cute poison.
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>>79298560
>when has a MT game ever just given you a choice of endings?

SMT2 did.
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a helpful tip for those in Valhalla/Mazurka: Walk with a Pooka/Werecat in your group. Even if it is stored on your COMP, when you talk to a demon of the same type they will let you go and these 2 in particular give Jewels much more often than the others while also being one of the random encounters that appears the most in these areas.
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>>79343881
Not this year, Gid said he wants to do it but definitely not this year.
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So I need the music unfuck at the ending of the game, also I identified bgm43. It plays during the slideshow in the ending.

Anyway can someone give me a save right before final boss? Need to test something in the ending.
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>>79347156
I hope he does it. I'll probably hold off on playing it again.
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Hey /smtg/, I'm playing Digital Devil Saga for the first time and I'm wondering if making Cielo a pysical/buff/debuff character is viable. I'm currently at Coordinate 136.
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>>79347250
>So I need the music unfuck
Seems like part of my post got eaten.
There should be a "to test" after need...
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>>79347659
His stat spread is biased towards agility and luck, so he'd be good for a support role since those skills aren't reliant on magic or strength stats to be effective

Cielo is however widely considered to be the worst character in the game thanks to being weak to ailments, though
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>>79347807
Oh okay, so it's best to save him for fights where he can heal and void specific spells. Thanks man.
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>>79347659
If you're looking for a support character use Argilla or Gale.
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>>79347250
final boss from sebec good ending?
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>>79350029
Yea
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>>79350140
fuck i saved over all my p1p files with sqq saves
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>>79350209
I'll rek u m8
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what party did you guys use for p3?
i'm thinking of going with

Journey: Yukari, Akihiko/Aigis, Mitsuru
Answer: Metis, Yukari, Mitsuru
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>>79350378
wish i could help you out ;_________;
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>>79350502
I personally dropped Yukari for Akihiko in The Answer, mostly because forced hard mode meant healing needed to be on-point all the time. Can't trust an AI to a duty like that. Fortunately, even sans compendium it's still pretty easy to fuse a broken Persona.
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>>79350502
Aigis, Akihiko, Mitsuru
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>>79350502
>Not using everyone equally like in DDS.

But all BS aside:
Journey: Yukari, Junpei, Mitsuru
(Junpei kept killing himself by being reflected his own Brave Blade on Moonless Gown. ;_;7
Answer: Used everyone equally as the bosses were fucking EVIL.

Other than that, I wanted to finish The Answer with one last hurrah, so I maxed out all the party members (by "maxed out" I mean leveled them up enough to learn them all their skills), got maxed out Surt, Norn, Odin, Skadi, Siegfried, Kohryu, Alilat, and Messiah, and soloed Erebus with Level 92 Aigis.

Man that was fun. By that, I mean soloing Erebus.
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I'm actually having fun with Kyuuyaku Megami Tensei.
Although doing 3 damage per hit to bosses is some stupid shit.
Does Tarukaja from Werecat not work properly or something?
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>>79352816
Had the same problem that you have man. Couldn't find an answer, only hitting the boss with a toothpick and healing like crazy, sometimes using hanma and hanmahan to deal a bit more than physical attacks.
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>>79343404
>>79343913

You lose a point in Vitality.
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No posts for 40 minutes? did the apocalypse happen everywhere except for my country or something?
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>>79355826
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>>79355790
>>79355826
Fuck I spoke too soon
or maybe you're in my country too
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>>79355826
It's 6pm here but I am playing shitty non-SMT games.
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>>79355790
>You lose a point in Vitality
So... guess it's time to start using save states, fuck bullshit mechanics
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>>79355826
Too busy playing the new Disgaea.
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>>79358037
>disgaea
>he likes to level up to level 999 million, reset his character and do it again
>he likes to play the same 10 hours of content for 3000+ hours
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>>79355920
Dat Ahriman.
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>>79355826
I was busy continuing my winstreak on LoL as Sivir.

10 wins in a row, at the time of this writing.
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>>79358268
Are you haeving promblam?
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>>79347659
>>79347807

Corollary to Cielo being the worst in the game: There are some strategies for the NG+ ultimate boss which rely on him to survive.
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>>79358781
tch...nothing personnel kid
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>>79358268

>he likes playing video games

so what's the big deal
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>>79359036
>playing video games other then megaten and japanese waifu simulators
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>>79358854
Don't you mean pretty much all of the strategies? I think even the Red Star strategy relies on having Cielo there for Dormina+Gaea Rage if things go tits up.
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>>79356208
Same, I was playing Akiba.
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>>79359016
*flips thru bibble*
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>>79359461
What was Red Star strategy again?
On that note, where did Red Star get its name? Just curious... ;_;
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>>79359808
>>79359016
Can ironic shitposting please die forever or at least be grounds for permanent rangebannings?
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>>79359915

But then you'd have to ban everyone on 4chan.
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>>79360497
And that would be a bad thing?
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>>79360591

well you got me there.
I'd miss you guys too much though
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>>79360673
Fucking soft-cock faggot, grow some balls.
I'd miss this place too.
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>>79360591
Eat shit asshole
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>>79359886
I think it involved basically stalling Demi-fiend's Pixie till she ran out of MP, that way she wouldn't be able to cast Recarmdra or Mediarahan
It's still pretty risky because if you fuck up and Pixie gets off a Recarmdra, you'll be starting from the top again and it keeps going
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>>79350502
Aigis, Akihiko, Yukari

Mitsuru a shit
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>>79362176
Where the fuck is that Aigis comic from?
Because I need MORE!
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>>79362176
Is that the Voynich Hotel mangaka?
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>>79362385
>>79362629
http://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/kill_living_beings#1
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>>79363303
Bookmarked the entire website.
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>>79364225
Yeah, there's a lot of good doujins on there (especially touhou)
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So... ladies and gentlemen...

It's time.
Favorite REGULAR SMT Battle theme.
Let's have some good ones.

Mine right now is either one of these.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uT91WE5pbv0&list=FLjnVqRMzpmfLq54QxWXZeNw&index=12
or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1MEOaTNz1A
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>>79364616
>smt 1 sounds like shit
>smt 2 sounds better then snes
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>>79365224
They're catchy. You got something against catchy battle themes, punk?
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>>79362629
Yes. Douman Seiman.
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>>79364616
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8xC-_6IvLk
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>>79365464
Yes. Best part: 0:35-0:58.
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>>79350979
>>79351203
>>79352092
>>79362176

should i do a max social link play through or nah?
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>>79365863
If you're replaying the game then sure

If it's your first time then absolutely not. You need to adhere to a really rigid schedule and it takes the fun out of choosing who you spend your time with
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>>79365863
Do whatever, man. If you're gonna go for Max S.Link Run, be prepared for feels.
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>>79365863
Sorry, >>79366005 here.
Forgot to give you this guide:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/ps2/937269-shin-megami-tensei-persona-3-fes/faqs/52512

Good fucking luck.
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>>79365863
>>79366147
>playing through a long ass rpg dating sim with a walkthrough is somehow fun
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>>79366297
>implying I meant that it would be fun.
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>>79365989
>>79366005
>>79366147
>>79366297

>not my first time to play p3
i'm already actually using this guide and it's fucking stressing me out it's not as specific as the p3p version
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>>79366297
>implying persona 3 is fun in the first place
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Got a couple of questions for you guys:

>What did you think of P3/4's social links?
>Which social link did you enjoy the most?
>Which social did you enjoy the least?
>How would you improve the social links you didn't enjoy?
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>>79366474
Yeah, inaccurate or less-detailed guides are a pain.

;_;
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>>79366459
I thought videogames were supposed to be entertaining

>>79366474
just play it without reading a bunch of text before doing aything at all, its way more enjoyable
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>>79366617
They are. Else we wouldn't be here.
Self-imposed challenges like this, though, rarely are. That's what I meant.
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>>79364616
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klyRHf41pbw
>implying that's not the best
>tfw we'll never hear it again
SMT II snes in second
inb4: P2 is not SMT
Call the cops, I don't give a fuck
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>>79366570
>All those questions
fuck social links that shit had no business being in a megaten game and now they ruined persona forever

I don't even like P1/P2 that much, but if they kept going in that direction the persona games would be better then mainline
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>>79366570
Some were fine, others were annoying.
That dying guy and Toriumi in P3.
The fox's in P4.
No idea honestly. I don't even like the system very much, especially because even characters without much development are forced to have 10 levels.
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>>79366570
They're a neat idea but very, very rough around the edges. I think good time management needs to be stressed a lot more and that the player needs stronger rewards for getting a social link up instead of just bonus levels for fusing. Also, there should be more depth to the system than picking a cutscene to watch each day.

My favorite slinks were Nanako and Dojima in 4 and the old monk and the dying guy in P3. A lot of the other ones in both games were pretty bland so I can't single out least favorites
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>>79366617
b-but muh broken personas
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>>79366730
I've listened to your music multiple times taking on those annoying quests, and now I raise you THIS, sir.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-BA27yWX1o
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>>79364616
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeLfaiKAxZA
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>>79367023
>Carol J and Judah will never play this
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>>79367034
Gee, sounds a lot like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7PDKYOF3Nk
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>>79367184
Who the fuck are they
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>>79367262
>he didn't play soul hackers
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Starter here
Are there any connection between the games? characters etc
Or is it more like the Final Fantasy Games?
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>>79367294
I dont have a 3ds faggot
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>>79367356
There are some loose connections and a few direct sequels, but for the most part I'd say the continuity is like Final Fantasy
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>>79367184
I'll let Cielo answer in my place.
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>>79367356
Some games do, but it's usually very tiny things. The only cases where not having played another might really hinder you are DDS2, P2EP and P4A.
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>>79367356
There are metaphors and allusions between the persona universe, however p3 and p4 are related to each other.
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>>79344185
Yeah, I'm playing through 1, a lot of grinding is required to get to where Minotaur isn't pretty much instakill
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>>79367356
Watch the megami tensei beginners guide on youtube its a series of videos explaining lore, combat strategies, timeline theories, best games to start with... that sorta thing
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>>79367445
If you have the means you should consider it, Soul Hackers is great and it also has SMTIV and DeSuOC
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>>79367356
Here. Should help.
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>>79367189
Not particularly, no.
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I fucking swear this game is rigged, I just played almost 10 times and I didn't get it right once.
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>>79367735
I don't think this makes any sense to anyone who hasn't played the series. It'd just make things more confusing.
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>>79367735
>>79368140
And it's inaccurate in a number of places.
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>>79368140
It doesn't make any sense anyway
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>>79368297
Not to mention features Maken X and Shao for no reason.
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Is there anything keeping me from abusing the arena in Ariake with Orthus? It seems like I can just grind for money forever.
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>b-but I just wanted to be king abaddon
Dahn sure is a fucking idiot
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>>79368074
>not using a savestate to check if its rigged
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>>79368846
1. His town is going to the shitter due to high taxes and the boiling ignorance and contempt of the civillians.
2. The ones who demand the taxes will end up destroying the towns livelihood if their demands are not met, making things worse.
3. They also take Tsukigata women and mutate them after fucking them for who knows how long.
4. The other bug people who don't try to screw him or the town over are trustworthy.
5. Louis was manipulating him.
6. King Abaddon was set up by God and he didn't understand a system set up by God wouldn't obey a chaosfag.
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>>79369101
I just don't understand how he never thought about what exactly "king abaddon" was
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Anybody have PAR or gamebreaker codes for KMT? want to replay it and get all the secrets but i really dont feel like grinding...
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>>79369176
He thought it meant free supernatural bugs they could use.
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Does Lu affect the chance of a demon's heart being swayed instantly in SMTIV?
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I want to fuck Mirai
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>>79370764
Pervert!
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>>79364616

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RiHmQcHa84
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Is there a full translation of the audio team comments on the SMTIV soundtrack?
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>>79367562
I think I was 13/14 ish. Don't forget to get demonz.
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Hello, gentlemen, first time having an interest in this game series. Was contemplating picking up SMTIV - is it a good enough starting point for a beginner? I know the games are said to be challenging, but I'd like to think I can handle it if it means getting a new experience.
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>>79371229
Read the starter guide.
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>>79371208
>lvl 17
>have demonz
>get rekt
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>>79367735
Please note, this will not help.

If you want to play a game, but are an ocd order fag, just ask us first.

>>79368074
I dunno, I only played in SMT2. And shit was easy as fuck. so git gud with those save states son of man
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>>79371360
List ur demonz.

If it makes you feel any better, I was almost level 30 for Medusa ;_;
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>>79371182
YEah, Strategy/Design book
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>>79371626
Can't remember the names, but I could have fused them, but level was too low
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>>79371360
Also, go to Valhalla and get new gear.
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>>79371329
Well I look like an idiot now. Thanks.
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>>79371669
You mean the one that came with the game? I'm talking about the comments that came with the full soundtrack.
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>>79371880
Oh, my bad. Maybe Debisama 1 or 2 could translate after the translation patch for DS is released.
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FUCK I CAN'T FIND RAG'S JEWLERY IN KMT

I'VE BEEN THERE ONCE ALREADY BUT FUCK ME I CAN'T REMEMBER WHERE IT IS
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So does who I side with here affect my ending or do I get more chances?

I think I'll go ahead and side with the witch since Pazuzu doesn't seem very trustworthy and he deleted my only video game.
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>tfw trying to remake KMT to look like SMT psx ports
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I never once understood why P3 had a "Wait" command instead of "Defend"
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>>79373045
P3's battle system is filled with horrible decisions
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>>79373045
I wish you could pass turns in P3/P4.
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>>79373164

I'd like to think of it as Hard Mode.
lol as if hard mode wasn't hard enough.
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>>79373613
But P3 wasn't hard.
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>>79373670
It's harder than people give it credit for I think
The problem is that it's extremely simple
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>>79373670
Compared to P3P?
It's fucking harder, because AIs.
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>>79374319
Of course it's harder than P3P, the game wasn't balanced around you being able to control your party.
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So does anyone have a save before final boss in P1P on sebec good end route?
I need to test something with music..
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>>79374849
I do, but it's not emulated so idk.
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>>79372950
You'd need a whole new engine since you will never make it like PSX on SNES. SNES MegaTens are fully 2D. PSX have actual 3D dungeons which is the main draw. Those who played Soul Hackers 3DS should have a good idea how good PSX dungeons are.

>>79374928
Doesn't matter, I have a hacked PSP, hacked Vita, hacked PS3 and PPSSPP on PC. I just need to test something.
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>>79372837

If I go with her, is it a good idea to remove the equipment from my current party member?
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>>79375090
Yeah, I save stated right before hand to check the same thing. You can take half of my money but that equipment's mine.
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>>79377245

I'm worried about if he joins back up. I don't want him to be completely naked.
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>>79374928
Upload your save
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If Arale was in a megaten game, would she be a good party member?
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>>79379430
If the last guest character was any indication, yes.
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>>79379430
I saw Arale hats fucking everywhere in china.
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>>79379430
Disgusting.
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>blasted tokyo
>law theme starts playing
How far am I?
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>>79383560
A little beyond halfway, I'd say, though depends on which route you go.
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>>79383560
You still have a decent amount of gameplay time left. Alignment lock is after Infernal Tokyo.

And speaking of the law theme, IV's remixes of it were fantastic.
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>>79379337
It's not on my hacked system either, tho.
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>>79384843
Then where is it?
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>>79385190
My normal PSP3000.
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>>79386228
Oh I thought you had a broken psp or something, just copy the save and upload somewhere. I think Canzah knows how to convert the normal save to work with PPSSPP.
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>>79386228
>Plug PSP into computer via USB
>Download PSP Content Manager 1.8
>Select the USB drive connected to PSP
>Go to save directory
>????
>Help canzah make the best persona 1 version ever
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>>79387331
I only recently started dicking around with my modded Go, so I'm a total derp on this kinda thing. Gimme a few...
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>>79387461
PSP content manager is for windows not your psp by the way, its just so you dont have to look inside a bunch of folders to find the save, makes it a lot easier (you can also use it to edit eboots)
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I just copied everything with a P1 icon

> http://wikisend.com/download/825648/p1p.zip
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>>79388502
hope canzah is still itt
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I'm not too far into it but MT2 seems a lot better than the first one. Is there anything that isn't a straight improvement?
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>WHAT WILL YOU DO?
>WHAT WILL YOU DO?
>WHAT WILL YOU DO?
>ARE YOU SUUURE?
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>>79389063
I am, though I was afk

>>79388502
Thanks, that should do it.
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>>79388502
Does you system data have all cutscenes bro?
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>>79390463
>>79390618
I didn't finish the last dungeon, or do SQQ :(
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>>79391628
Then this is going to be useless to me.
I said I need a save with cleared game before final boss.

God fucking damnit.

Anyone else got one?
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>>79365458
>The main heroine of the comic is black
Gotta appreciate that, after all, we all know that black girls are the best girls
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>>79393204
Ahhh, fuck. Sorry man.
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>>79393358
Still better than nothing, if nobody has any better I'll just use cwcheat to rush through it to the ending tomorrow.
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>>79393206
Brown girls are alright. Black are no.
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>>79393585
I have a save file for each of the routes. Beat both of them. I think I missed 1 or 2 cut-scenes though.
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>>79393585
Whatever is the early save, that's before the split path, if you run SQQ too. (It's also set up to get Reiji, if someone else wants it)
But I think there's a SQQ on Gamefaqs or somethin'.
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>>79393782
I don't need cutscenes. I just need to access the ending portion of the game where it shows you the photos of the characters and then credits where VOICE plays.
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>>79393656
[spioler]It's the same thing dummy[/spoiler]
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>>79394389
No, it's really not. The world of brown girls is super vast.
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I'm new to SMT and I'm thinking about getting SMT IV. One question, does the game use the L and R buttons? The ones on my 3DS are broke and I don't feel like purchasing an XL or anything.
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>>79394591

>bedouin Dreams
>literally an 8 year old boy

Fucking islam
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>>79394614
Don't buy a new 3DS, they're bringing out a new one anyway.
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>>79394148
Alright, I'll upload them soon.
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>>79394614
It does, mostly for camera control.
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>>79394705
answer my fucking question
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Why does everyone forget you in Raidou 2 even though it's probably only been a short time from 1?
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>>79394823
How useful is camera control? Can I get through the game easily without it or is it unplayable?
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>>79394996
You won't be able to see shit.
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>>79395043
That's pretty shit

Damn, I wanted this game too
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>>79394996
Well it'll be kinda tough to keep your eyes open for enemies, but you can use the X or Y button (I forgot) to change the camera to where you're facing, so you can at least improvise a little.

It's not completely unplayable, but it'll be annoying.
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>>79394849
Bitch fuck your question
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>>79395239
>you can use the X or Y button (I forgot) to change the camera to where you're facing
So if I would press it, it would straighten it out?
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>>79394591
As long as you believe that black/brown girls are superior you'll have superior taste and you will be saved son of man It's the same thing no matter what you say, brown/black is the same thing
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>>79394849
I didn't play SMT4 yet, you fucking cunt.
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>>79395562
black is a severe shade of brown
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>>79395562
>brown/black is the same thing
Can you not tell the difference between Mexicans and Africans?
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>>79395426
Yeah, that's exactly what it does.
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>>79395426
Y brings up the menu, X does an attack. I believe you press B and the camera resets.

And how the fuck do you break your L and R buttons? What are you, 12? Holy shit.
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>>79395678
>>79395762
There's no real difference you big babies.
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>>79395809
That doesn't sound too bad, I'm okay with this.

I wish they would at least give out a demo at least
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>>79395934
Oh, I thought you were serious.
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>>79395893
>And how the fuck do you break your L and R buttons? What are you, 12? Holy shit.
I don't know, I didn't do it on purpose. I think it was like Kid Icarus abuse or something.
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>>79396027
Serious about what?
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>>79396163
Serious about THIS.
*grab2 diick2*
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https://www.dropbox.com/s/9mtfsu4pza3605j/Persona%201%20Save%20Data.zip?dl=0

Here's the Persona 1 Save Data. You can go fight the final bosses right away, I believe.
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>>79396327
Cheers, will check it out tomorrow.
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>>79396285
...what?..
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>>79396884
Understand this.

*unzips dick*
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>>79396996
I'm uncircumcised, so sometimes I really do think I can unzip my dick.
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>>79396996
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>>79338736
>>Somehow manage to devour two Ara Mitamas and kill a third
how?!
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>Quantum Devil Saga
>Argilla has gravity powers instead of smashing everything with rocks
>Sera's blood is what curbs the hunger problems instead of LIGHT SHINES
>The group manages to save Jinana from her berserk state.
>Mick and Bat fuck up trying to kidnap Sera; no trip to the Castle of Foreshadowing. They then try and join up with the Brutes
>Angel offers the Karma Temple's support to Varin. Also some mysterious black-robed dude joins as his second in command (realSerph?)
>Most of the Wolves were "swallowed up by something" instead of getting fucked up by the Brutes
>Lupa mite b the reincarnation of Serph and Heat's old tribe leader or something.

volume 2 when
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>>79401337
Nope.
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>>79401337
no
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>Jack bros 3ds will be never a thing
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>>79402135
I'd buy.
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I took a hiatus from megaten but now that's over and I want to play KMT. When the patch for it first came out I heard it was glitchy as fuck. Is that still the case?
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>>79403073
no, the problem was the rom the patch is nice to go.
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>>79401337
Okay do you have a link or better details?

I'll add this to the wiki.
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>>79403873
Dang it. I meant this for >>79401438
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>>79404001
the book, retard.
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Guys what does the magic status do in Raidou Kuzunoha?
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>>79402135
Jack Bros is actually really fun.
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So will SMT4 get released in europe next month? Or will that get delayed or cancelled?

Why did it take them so long anyway?

I'm kinda out of the loop.
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>>79405494
For Raidou it only raises Magic Resistance iirc
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>>79405697
So its useful?

dang it
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>>79405662
because fuck yurop.

not, really atlus usa being dicks.
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>>79405662
Supposedly it'll be released "late October", but it might get delayed again, who knows.
No one knows.
>>79405791
Not very much. Just raise St and Vit and get a demon to heal you while you beat shit up.
>>
>no SMT Operation Genesis
>you will never build a park filled with demons instead of dinosaurs
>no hurricane instead of the flood
>everyone getting killed including your friends and mom
Spared no expanses
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>>79407025
>no SMT danmaku
>you will never kill demons and make humongous combos
>you will never dodge blue balls from jack frost
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>>79407224
>you will never have blue balls thanks to Jack Frost
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>pale rider fight in Raidou 2

what the fuck
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>A woman in MT2 tells you the minimum INT you need to fight Balaam

I don't know why I find that neat.
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>Playing Kyuuyaku Megami Tensei
>Talking to this midget to get the Silver Relief
>Wants half of my money
>Refuse
>Tells me to come back later when I have money
Fuck okay I guess
>See him again
>Agree to give him half my money
>"Hey, you must be loaded, bro. In that case, how about parting with all of your money?"
FUUUUUUUUUUCK THAT
>Tell him no
>He disappears
Is this for real?
Do I really have to give away ALL my fucking money?
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>>79407847
yes.
scrub.
>>
Been looking for Kyuuyaku OST, but that one site with all the links are dead.
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>>79408069
God fucking damn it cocksucker
I have 98129 macca
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>>79407847
>>79408245

Go find the armor and weapons shops to buy the best stuff. If you already have bought the best stuff then go buy a bunch of consumables.
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>>79408210
Gonna try to upload.
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>>79408317
Or buy shit to resell, and take the loss.
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>>79408317
>>79408245

Actually, I just had another idea. Maybe you could buy up a bunch of armor then sell it back after. You won't have all your money back but it will be a fair amount.
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>>79408210
rip em from yutub.
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>>79408317
>>79408468
Good idea
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>>79408489
no thank you.
Putting all the correct info so my phone can find the entire playlist (because it into fucking folders for whatever reason) is non sense, rather just wait until I can find the entire thing.
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>>79408210
Nevermind
http://snesmusic.org/v2/profile.php?profile=set&selected=20021 just rename to rar after downloading.
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>>79408809
Is there a spc to Mp3? Google turned up nothing.
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> http://ekizo.mandarake.co.jp/shop/ja/item-gall-N-0999.html
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>>79410469
neat I guess but nowhere near 300 dollars neat
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I just noticed the giant hands grabbing Walter and Jonathan on this cover and now it looks way stupider
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>>79411398
you look way stupider, nerd
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Why are lawfags so beta and Chaosfags so alpha?
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>>79411398
whos the gal smiling behind everyone
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>>79411868
Fuck off chaosholes this is LAW territory
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>>79411884
Isabeau
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>>79411884
That'd be Burroughs.
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>>79411884
burroughs
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>>79411938
>Admitting to being a betafag.
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>>79411884
it's yuriko on the left and gabby on the right
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>>79411868
>chaos
>ever
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>>79411968
>>79412020
But why is she smiling? The goddess was a whore all along?
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>>79411398
The only thing I don't like about the cover is that law has completely relevant characters on the front, while chaos has one relevant demon on it.
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>>79411968
fuck off
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>>79412153
They always are. That's why they have to reincarnate.
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I seriously can't get these SPC files to work with all these winamp videos.

This is true suffering.
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>>79412179
better than putting chemolucifer on the cover
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>>79412153
she's smiling because on that cover Flynn is neutral
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>>79412256
http://wikisend.com/download/340940/Kyuuyaku%20Megami%20Tensei%20%28SNES%29%20Original%20Soundtrack.rar
mp3 files now bend over, faggot.
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>>79411884
it's the white
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>>79412382
I am at your command...
In all seriousness I'll upload it to mediafire and put it in the music/artbooks/reading pastebin.
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>>79412179
but then potato lucifer would be on the cover
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>>79412920
FF8 reference?
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>>79411884
Burroughs. I used to think it was Mem Aleph, but it seemed she's supposed to represent Neutral by being half black and white.

The only different besides color is that she has wrinkles on the black half and is smooth on the left.
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>>79412998
>ff8 reference
>in a game older than you, fucker
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>>79412998
you're think of balamb
>>
Why do they all still say the same thing?
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>>79412998
Didn't FFVIII come out 9 years after Megami Tensei II?
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>>79412179
I think they were going for a whole chaos being disorganized feel, which would make more sense if they had more relevance in the story. Astaroth is summoned by a Gaean who is suggested to be planning to use him to overthrow Lilith and make him the Ring's King. Asmodeus is just a boss in Kagome Tower guarding the Four Archangels and against unleashing them and dooming Tokyo, and Koga Saburo is trying to do what he can to protect the nation as a NDD until he becomes the attack dog or Tayama after the Samurai kill him.
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>>79411884
Someone said it was Gaby and Yuriko. Half and half.
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>>79413518
It's not

yuriko is already on the cover
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>Your ass will be never mine

;_;
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>>79413467
Yeah, I realize chaos doesn't have many important characters, compared to the perfect four archangels, but Astaroth is completely optional, at least the others are part of the main story, no matter how little.
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>>79413608
as is gabby
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>>79413694
I just realized I used too many commas.
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>>79401438
I knew about the blood bit before the novel was even released, but the rest is interesting details. Thanks for them.
>>
Just a question guys, i haven't played DeSu 2 'cause i'm waiting for BR ;_;, and i didn't watch the animated version because i don't want any spoilers, and i'd like to know, does it follow a neutral route? Do they actually kill angels?
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>>79414874
what, in the anime? Or in the game? There are a variety of routes in game, including your standard law, chaos and neutral ones.

Unfortunately, there are no angels in DeSu2. Or at least, no storyline angels. You can still fuse them and use them, but they play no part in the story
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>>79415082
I think by Angels he meant septentrionns. He was making an eva reference.
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>>79414874
The anime is terrible. Just terrible.

>>79415082
Don't lie to the anon. Lucifer defeats Satan in the anime afterall.
>>
I meant to ask if in the anime they kill angels, do you guys mean that there's no real Law/Neutral/Chaos in the game?
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>>79415685
None of the traditional outlooks, no. The basic premise is that the entire world is getting swallowed by a void except for Japan which stays intact due to ancient magics. The void is not happy about this, and sends abstract alien forms to destroy Japan
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>>79415685
See >>79415484

And Lucifer beats Satan with a hug to boot.

Lailah and Power appear at certain points as well.
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>>79415832
>>79415847
Thanks for the info and also, this new concept sounds like a breath of fresh air, L/N/C gets kinda repetitive after some time, now i'm really, really interesed in this game, thanks again guys
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>>79415847
The greatest way of displaying STR is a warm embrace. Ease the fuck out of everyone's anxieties.
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>>79416069
Yeah, I really like the way they did the alignments. It's almost the opposite of what you first think is going to happen, it's great.
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>>79416070
But Satan was the one who was protecting the guy who wanted world of STR, while Lucifer was summoned to protect man's freedom.
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>>79416184
Like it doesn't sounds like it if you read my comment but i'm REALLY pumped to play it now, i'm playing SMT I and alignments are losing it's magic at this point.
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>>79416367
How does Lucy's hug must feel like? I think it must be gross, my lawfag side tells me that even touching him, no, even getting close to him must feel terrible.
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>>79416956
It feels like a soft pillow and Megidoladyne.
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>>79416956
>How does Lucy's hug must feel like?

Its colder than hugging a thousand snowmans while being naked.
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>>79417215
So it's like hugging ice cream.
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>>79417454
Snowmans made of solid ice.
The kind that gets stuck to your skin and if you pull away you rip yourself apart.
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>>79416367
did satan always have six fingers? if that's the case, that's pretty neato
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>>79417578
So the best kind of Ice Cream.
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>>79418007
No, the anime is just poorly animated.
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>>79411398
Every fucking day I wish the guest designs had been drawn by Doi in game
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>>79418163
Snowmans made of solid shit
The kind that gets stuck to your skin and if you pull away you rip yourself apart.


fixed
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>>79418007
>>79418196
He did actually.
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>>79418430
>6 fingers
>6 tits
>6 wing spines

holy shit guys, 666!
>>
>>79411398
>>79412305
It probably is half Lucifer and half Merkabah though. They both have pale skin and dark lips. Look at the hands too: the left is veiny and disgusting, just like Lucifer's right hand. On the right with Jonathan is practically white, like Merkabah. There are strange lines on the digits too. Without seeing the nails you can't confirm, but it absolutely isn't Yuriko or Gabby.

Yuriko wears gloves in the Demonica armor and Gabby has bare hands.
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>>79418370
Look at that ugly being. No wonder she fuses with the two-faced God's car. I bet even YHVH hates it since he can't even take it for a spin.
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>>79418597
>2 faced
it has at least 4, anon
>>
>>79418569
>Look at the hands too: the left is veiny and disgusting, just like Lucifer's right hand

Chemo lucy has 3 fingers so it can't be him
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>>79418569
The lips are 100% more attractive than Lucifer's and he doesn't have the wrinkles around his lips like the female on the cover does.

Not to mention his fingers are much longer.
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>>79418764
could be hikaru or an in-between form like when he first reveals himself as lucifer.
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>>79418764
No, he has 5.

>>79418859
The length of the fingers threw me off as well, which is why I wish we could see part of the nails for both, but given the way the fist is on the cover, his longer digits could just be obscured. As for the lips, slight difference in stylization. In the original art, they're really just generic dark lips.
>>
>>79418715
I don't wan to specify that I was talking about half of it's second form looked demonic, while the other half looked angelic.

Though I noticed it has these two smaller angel things above the center head that look like they have faces too.
>>
>>79419003
I took a closer look at the cover: it is Lucifer and Merkabah. Look at the left with Walter, behind Asmodeus is a yellow collar that follows the neckline and pattern of Lucifer's.
>>
>>79419091
oh yea that wheel form
that was pretty cool
meanwhile lucifer only begins to look acceptable in the second form
>>
>>79419003
The figure has hair behind the head if you look past Uriel, which is something Merkabah doesn't have behind its face. If it did would be blocked off by the mechanical parts behind it's neck that make up its body.
>>
Someone help me understand the way this game handles moral choice.

Like in IV ... not a single one of the factions/NPCs in the game were worth going along with, not Tayama, not Lilith, not Gabriel. That there was absolutely zero way to preserve both Mikado and Tokyo just bugged the shit out of me.
And yet the game seemed to have the sense that these were hard moral decisions. No they weren't, they were all varying degrees of psychotic/fucking stupid.
It's making me not want to finish it now since I'm fairly certain none of the endings will be satisfying.
>>
>>79419260
That side would be Merkabah then, as it has yellowish metal on the side of its face.
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>>79419451
That's not hair, that's the weird shit going on behind Merkabah's head. You can make vague circular patterns out in the cover there. You can see it by the neck to the left of Uriel too.
>>
>>79419493
Sounds like you're neutral!
>>
>>79419493
That's SMT man
do you want to save tokyo?
or do you want to save mikado?
do you want the strong to rule the weak, or for the weak to rule the strong?
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>>79419931
I just want to cuddle with Isabeau.
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>>79419493
I take it you never played 1 or 2.

Law brings you safety, but in exchange for freedom

Chaos brings you freedom, but in exchange for safety

Both will likely end up with humans as followers of a stronger entity

Neutral puts all of this stuff off until another time and gives humanity a chance to fix itself, but the success will never last

That's why it is best to destroy it all. Destroy it all johnny.
>>
>>79419990
Sounds like you're neutral!
>>
>>79419990
oh, you want neutral then
or else things get ugly
>>
>>79419643
Do you have Lucifer II and Merkabah II that are that clear?

The one's of Merkabah look bad on the wiki and Lucifer II hasn't been added yet.
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>>79420001
i want the white to go.
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>>79420250
They aren't even doing the White right.

The White view Chaos as futile as people will seek God. Thus any attempts to rebel is useless.

It's always "God will succeed if you go chaos" this or "God will succeed if you go Law" and "God will succeed if you go Neutral" that.
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>>79407224
Imagine though, SMT x Touhou
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>>79420182
Just Merkabah II. Whoever scanned these never got to any of the other bosses.
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>>79419643
The circular patterns stop near the top of the neck. The weird shit on Merkabah comes from the shoulder.
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>>79420537

wich 2hu wud u fuse
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>>79420774
Who do you propose it is then? I'm curious since I have no other ideas and it just wouldn't make sense to be anyone else. The left side is Lucifer since that is his collar. It can't be Lucifer on the right either since that'd be his left hand and we all know what's going on with that.

I'd argue it's slight stylistic differences in rendering on Doi's part since the original has such thick lines going on. It also looks to me as though it's following along the neck to the shoulder since, looking at Merkabah's art, it has a really fucking thin neck. For Lucifer, you can see the collar obscuring his neck.
>>
>>79419743
Not really ... especially on alot of the smaller decisions in the game, I tend to go back and forth depending on what my own moral compass tells me.
>>79419931
There should be a way to save/preserve both. And strong/weak is far too broad. Strong possessing a heavy punch or being able to swing a sword. What about builders/construction workers? They're strong. What about mothers? Childbirth is agonizing but important. What about doctors? Healing the sick/wounded is hard stuff.
It's like ... I don't like that it assumes that somehow some people are more vital than others. It's fucking depressing what this game wants you to do. Nocturne was even worse that way. I'm allowed to present a Reason? Where's the option for, people are just good to each other?
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>>79421261
>Not really ... especially on alot of the smaller decisions in the game, I tend to go back and forth depending on what my own moral compass tells me.

This is pretty much neutral though. Neutral is all about compromise. You can ""save"" both Mikado and Tokyo if you go neutral.
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>>79421206
Daiyousei. No question.
>>
>>79421261
Some people are more vital than others. The choices are, look we can't handle this so we are going to have YHVH/Luci come do it, or we can handle this, but their will be a lot of war and some very tough rebuilding because humans are imperfect and all of this will most likely happen again

You don't win you just do a little better each time

Just pick the end that let's you keep your waifu
>>
>>79421206
Sakuya
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>>79421243
The dark half yellow part also makes me think of the weird shit on that side of Merkabah due to being a duller color than Lucifer's bright and gaudy outfit.

I could figure it out if he did his own version of Lucifer's first design. Instead he uses the superior Lucifer II on the cover of the artbook and you are right that he does add extra stuff. Merkabah has a halo on the artbook, unlike the normal design.
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>>79421243
My autism is reaching critical mass. If you look between Michael's stupid wing things on the cover, there's a small triangular shadow that belongs to the face behind it, which you can tell because of the diffuse flow around foreground figures. Now look at Merkabah's official art: it has that mascara run shit, kinda like with Victor. It's Merkabah.
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>>79421668
I thought it could've been Merkabah II as well, but the only problem with that is that he doesn't have hands, he's just a mass of maws and frivolous bullshit, but no hands.

It really would help, and look better in-game too, if Doi redrew the designs he was given.
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>>79420537
>touhou

fucking pleb.


CAVE mustard race.
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>>79422000
Him and the guy who did the backgrounds made some pretty great art.

Shame they didn't use some of the background guys art, like Black Samurai summoning a Flaemis.
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>>79418562
that's why I said >neato
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>That glorious ~hour after you resist/null/absorb everything and feel like a god, until the game decides it's time to shit on you again
is there any better feeling?
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>>79425615
An even better feeling is going into NG+ with Null Attack and blitzing the bosses that gave you hell while being practically invincible.
LOOKING AT YOU, VASUKI AND MEGANADA.
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>>79425615

GITTIN GUD IN THE FIRST PLACE FEELS BETTER
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When do I get a gun in SMTIV? I'm in Flynn's hometown forest for reference.
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>>79419493
>That there was absolutely zero way to preserve both Mikado and Tokyo just bugged the shit out of me.
Chaos. Yeah, the demons come, but who cares? They were already around. Worst case, it just becomes like Infernal Tokyo.
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>>79429603
A bit before you fight Medusa. It's going to be a bit longer for you.
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>>79429650

Alright, thanks.
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>>79419493
Fujiwara and some of the Hunters seemed to have their heads on straight, at least. By the sound of it quite a few were from the Counter-Demon Force previously, so if anyone is worth siding with, it's probably them. The people living in Mikado end up evacuating to Tokyo in Neutral, don't they?
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>>79430286

Yes.
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>>79429626
I am thankful the kingdom has met its end in my lifetime.
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Would you guys play P3 or P3P and why?
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>>79433864
P3 for overworld sprites.
P3P if you want to be the little girl.
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>>79433864
FES because it has walking around and the Answer
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>>79434184
i didn't know P3 is not understood as FES already

>>79434135
i have a bit of dilemma, i played p3p before and i'm replaying p3 again and i realized how horrible the interface and the mechanics was.

>wait command instead of defend
>stupid as fuck AIs until you get the other tactics
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Ken's eye always bleeds in P3.
I'm surprised he isn't blind yet.
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>>79438942
Uh, what?
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would you rather have a game with an alignment system where you have to keep an eye on an invisible system keeping tabs on choices then assigning an ending, or a system where your actions effect the tone of the ending, but you have the freedom to choose what side you want at a key moment

imagine deus ex but at the middle or 2/3rds in, instead of post final boss
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>>79442823
the latter.
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The Soul Hackers battle theme is good
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>>79405494
It raises your magic defense, lowers MAG cost and provides extra stats for your demons.
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Anybody have any general tips for SMTIV?

It's pretty ruthless even though I'm only a few hours in but I'm not dying anymore thankfully. Getting as many buffs on the team as I can, but leveling up demons for better abilities is super slow! I don't even have a gun yet and I can't decide on what to spend App points on! Still inside this Kiccigiorgi forest trying to catch one of each Pokemon for breeding purposes.
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>>79444746
decide quickly what stat you want to use

buy a lot of healing items

don't really worry about armor since it's expensive and marginal
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>>79444746
go magic early for press turn abuse, then switch to dex luk for delicious SHOOT EVERYTHING once medium level gun skills show up

of course this is if you want the game to be "easy"

as for app points i'd recommend getting more demon slots, and skill slots for them, then you, since that early in the game you won't need THAT many skills for yourself

good luck!
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>>79444746
the apps to raise the fusion cap above your level are worth prioritizing, I found.

a point put in STR would be better served in DEX instead, since both are factored into phys damage but dex also goes into other things. plus the game is actually pretty generous with incense, especially STRincense

the actual stats of your armor aren't as important as how they alter your elemental defences
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>>79444746
oh and exploit the shit out of press turns if you can

remember that passing a demon's turn still give you a bonus turn

so you can make your useless demons pass just so your main hitters get more turns
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>>79444885
>>79444986
>>79444990
>>79444998
and they say we're shitposters
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Is it me or MT2's dungeon design is better than both SMT1 and SMT2?
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>>79445120
Did you really need to self-congratulate over a few people giving someone the help they asked for? Did you mistake this place for some other extremely hostile shit hole like /dsg/ or something?
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>>79444885
>>79444986

I have a bunch of Dex right now because I got a phys skill that hits 3 times sometimes, and it really hurts. I hope that's good. I'll look into more skill slots for my Demons!

Thanks!

>>79444990

Looks like I lucked out on my stat pick then. Dex it is! Thank you! Fusion level cap seems like a good idea, just expensive as heck. Armor did seem expensive, all I've bought is some pants and a sword that has a chance to hit multiple times.

>>79444998

I've played Nocturne, so I know allllllll about how press turns are important and how they can also screw you over if the enemy abuses them first. It seems like they're even more important in this game though! I sometimes forget about passing giving a press turn though, Thanks!
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>>79445728
another thing to keep in mind is that any crit, weakness exploited, or damage nullified can result in a smirk. smirk status makes you immune to all damage until your next attack, which will be a guaranteed crit if phys
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>>79445864
no actually smirk just raises evasion to something crazy like 90%

i've been hit in smirk before
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>>79445728
Passing doesn't necessarily grant an extra turn, it just uses "half" of a press-turn icon.
At least, I assume that's still how it works in SMT IV since I'm still fucking waiting for my copy.
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>>79445915

I think we are saying the same thing, I just assumed it took a full turn and refunded a press turn. Oh well, same thing right?

>>79445864
>>79445910

Will keep that in mind. It also takes away elemental weaknesses too temporarily, right
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>>79446173
I...guess you could put it that way? In the other games that use the press-turn system, passing a turn makes the turn icon start flashing instead of just disappearing. Flashing icons are half-turns and you can get them from more sources than just passing - landing critical hits and exploiting weaknesses also grants half turns. Play your cards right and it's entirely possible to gain 4 extra turns per round of combat.
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If I run out of MAG do my demons die or something?

Was this a thing in SMT1? I remember giving demons mag to join me but I don't remember it depleting as I walked.
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>>79446431
in raidou your demons get unsummoned
in smt I it started draining your health, if I remember
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nothing to do now but eat peanut butter out of the jar
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What kind of new frost will they create next?
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>>79449560
YHVH Frost
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>>79449560
Nigga Fost
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>>79449560
electric frost
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>>79449560

Jack Faust
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>>79449560

Marth Frost

If we get lucky.
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>>79449560
Mara Frost
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>>79452168
/feg/ pls
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>>79370764

I want to fuck Haniel.
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>MT2 gets another remake
>it doesn't look like late eighties anymore, COMP is a smartphone
>somehow they manage to reuse ancient Kaneko artwork for demons instead of forcing Doi to redraw all of it
>main character isn't ginger anymore
>Witch dresses like a slut
>your friend looks like a double homolord
>still no decent route branching
>YHVH is replaced with Demiurge or something else
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>>79453618
Not sure if I would buy or not.
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>>79452979
If they were a girl and not underage, despite appearances, I would fuck them with minor hesitation.

And besides, they have that Eros bow. They probably would want you to fuck them anyway. The guy versions, on the other hand, would want you to instead fuck others. That could get really bad really fast...
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Do half these cell phone games even exist anymore? Like are there phones that still can download and run them?

There sure are a fuck ton of them.
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>>79412382
>mfw KMT has the same number of tracks P1P has
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I can just listen to this with my eyes closed, and feel calm as fuck.
Even though I'm NOT a lawfag.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxsn-j4dkiQ
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>>79456408
First time I heard this track i was high on crack, shit was cash
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>>79456474
>actually doing drugs
Chaosfags like you shouldn't listen to LAW themes.
Doing drugs is pathetic.
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>>79456474
>>79456623
Too bad I'm only finding the PS1 SMT 1 OST and not the original's. Oh well, still good enough for me.

Also, this song was awesome.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7W6eWD3AqI
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>>79344185
>>79371841
go back to valhalla without the elevators activated? so backtrack through all those floors and go back through all of them again? thats terrible design
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>>79456623
>G-G-G-GOD SAYS DRUGS R RONG Y DO U THINK U HAVE FREEDOM NO WE NEED 2 SAEV HUMANITY NOT FREEDUM I DONT EVN WANT 2 HAVE A PERSONALYTITY PRAISE YHVH
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>>79456745
Deal with it, Son of Man.
Or should I say, Son of Bitch?
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

I feel your pain man, but I've always wanted to try that pun. Sorry. ;_;
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>>79456873
Drugs are shit regardless of religion
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>>79456873

> I DONT EVN WANT 2 HAVE A PERSONALYTITY

>Chaosfags legitimately think they have personalities.

>Ignore that they're all identical retarded autists or frat boys who don't even know that there's an aspect to personality besides muscles.
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>>79460007

>this tryhard reaction image
>this tryhard post

you're not making a good case for chaos buddy
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>>79457640

I bet you do drugs
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>mfw scrawny chaos autists would be the first to get mauled by demons
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>>79460007
>>79460587

Rather, you're not making a good case for law. I kind of lost track of what you were actually saying behind all the retarded shit about frat boys or whatever
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>>79461034

>Can't read basic sentences

you're not making a good case for neutral, buddy. Underfunded public school systems at work.
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>>79461108

>basic sentences

>pretending that post was even grammatically correct in terms of greentexting
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>>79461192

>Defending your own inability to understand something.

Oh god, stop. No one can legitimately be this stupid on the internet in this day and age. This is a step above trying to say you were only pretending to be retarded.
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>>79456696
i love those tracks in SMT 2 that have the weird eletronic choir thing
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>>79461413

>using the same tryhard reaction images

You didn't even change your bait. Nobody wants to get trolled by someone that lazy.
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>>79461531

>I-if I keep insisting that I'm not being trolled it will cover up that mara just straight up moved into my rectum and signed a two year lease.
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>>79461506

No one likes that song. Don't be ridiculous.
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What could go wrong.
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>>79461701

That's a better reaction image. If you had been less obvious in the first place you might have been able to troll for longer.

Lesson learned for you, maybe.
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Whats the most optimal build for Serph?
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>>79461928

I legitimately can't even tell whether you're ironically trying to look this devastated, or actually don't realize that your ass is so red from soreness that it looks like twin suns shining for us all to see.
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>>79462087
Go full LU
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>>79462175

Now that's just not even a reaction image at all. Your others were bad but at least they were thematically appropriate. That's just a hot dog.
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>>79462372

>He doesn't know about the law dog.

Newfags gtfo.
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>>79462472

>l-look at my forced meme!
>w-why don't you recognize it!

lol
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Is papa midnite neutral, /pol/?
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>>79462649
>/pol/

I won't tell you you're wrong considering this guy trying to make real world analogies to fit his video game alignment system
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>>79462372

>change the subject. That'll give me back the desperately needed upper hand. No one will notice that I'm responding if i critique the post!
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>>79462784

>I won't tell you you're wrong considering this guy trying to make real world analogies to fit his video game alignment system

Did you just switch from talking to someone to talking about them in third person all within a single sentence?
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>>79462796

>no one will notice I failed to troll if I go back to greentexting!
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>>79462905
No I mean the other guy. I assume "papa midnite" is also a fictional character.
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>>79462972

>Keep going. My ass from being trolled is in so much pain that YHVH said it would be inhumane torture to do to people who cut him off on the freeway, but if I keep pushing through I'll see a shining tomorrow where nobody thinks I got trolled.
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>>79463561

>here's some more real world shit because I can't separate fiction from reality.

Literally one of the symptoms of autism, anon.
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>>79463726

>random gibberish.

>hopes that if no one knows what it means it'll come off smart.

>distracts people from that he got trolled.
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>>79463796

>m-maybe if I greentext enough about nothing people will still think I'm the better troll!

At least you tried.
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>>79464025

>If I keep saying they failed despite my having been trolled proves the opposite people will be confused into thinking I'm the arbiter of whether I was trolled or not.
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>>79464367

>eternal run on sentences
>damage control damage control damage control!

You'll probably get just as buttflustered if I refuse to read that as when I skimmed your initial law/chaos post.
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>all this shitty alignment trolling
the white were right
>mfw my workplace has a NSFW filter on the internet but I'm still allowed on 4chan
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>>79464660

>finally declares they were only pretending to be retarded.

Finally, it can be put in a contemporary art gallery. The most true example of being trolled in all history. The word hermeneutics will be in the title for some reason.
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>>79464851

>Actually still trying

And yet your sentences became shorter.
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>>79465074

>can't even try anymore, but thinks that responding anyways will count as a valid attempt.
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>>79465531

Why are you greentexting about your own post?
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>>79466108
>>79465531
>>79465074
>>79464851
>>79464660
>>79464367
>>79464025
>>79463796
>>79463726
>>79463561
>>79462972
>>79462905
>>79462796
>>79462638
>>79462472
>>79462372
>>79462175
>>79461928
>>79461701
>>79461531
>>79461413
>>79461192
>>79461108
>>79461034
>>79460587
>>79460007

Oh yeah. Keep going, idiot trolls and even more confrontational shitposters and flamers. Keep getting pissed at each other.

This shit is fun to read.
No, please. Just stop this. Isabeau wants us all to get along. Are you gonna make Isabeau sad? You monsters. ;_;
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>>79466108

>contradicts self, and spins it as a point. Hopes no one adds it to the retardedness tally.
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>>79466720
>associating with fujoshi filth like Isabeau
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>>79466720
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>>79466867

Shorter sentences is step one for readability, and you've accomplished that, but there are other grammatical rules that must be followed which you need to work on.

Keep at it though, you're getting there! I'm rooting for you anon.
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>>79466913
>>79467014
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>>79462087
Anything that's not Full Lu.
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>>79467120
>>79466867
>Still continuing this shit.
>Not wanting to stop and give Isabeau a hug.
How dare you continue to do this?! You two have been keeping this shit up this whole time! The fuck is wrong with you people? Just acknowledge that the trolls will never get ahead, and don't feed them!
Problem solved!
Why must you drag this on further?! You people want your "world of STR" so much, then by all means kill yourselves!

Great! You guys made Isabeau and Nanako cry, and Pascal ran to his corner! See what you did? You can't, because you sick fucks are blinded by your hatred and bigotry!
I hope to YHVH, Lucifer, and all the deities of SMT that you assholes get erased by The White, and that it is gradual, slow, and EXCRUCIATING!
;_;
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>>79463796
I thought this was a picture of Kaneko and Okada from the thumbnail
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>>79467701
Get back to your programming, Naoya. We don't want you distressing Isabeau and Nanako further.
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>>79467593

nothin personnel kid
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>>79464661
This had really nothing to do with alignments. Just retards who have nothing better to do.
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>>79467817
You guys pull all this shit, and NOW you say "nothing personal"?!

Good job, genius, now you have Gale pissed at you. And you know what Gale does to people who anger him...
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this thread

tfw this is the closest we'll get to live-action SMT
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>>79467805
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Wow, didn't know neuters were that shit, they're jealous because they got their faggotass alignment by being too stupid to think and thus don't want to/can choose anything.
Now since they can't even participate in high-level alignment discussion, they feel the need to destroy it by letting their retardness out and pretending to be law and chaos fighting each other.
Please, fellow members of /smtg/ don't let yourself get deceived, don't start to think alignment discussion is anything near that! Defend our precious community, report those underaged faggots and go back to anonymously discussing how to change this rotten world!
I believe in you! The majority of /smtg/ think for themselves and like SMT not only for gameplay, art, music, atmosphere and demons but also for its philosophical aspects.
Also those few who choose neutral with thought and genuinely believe it is the right choice are, of course, not adressed with neuter.
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/pg/ please get out

Go discuss what your waifu's ass/feet/armpits smell like or whatever it is you do over there
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>>79468067
HBO series based on SMT1 when
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>>79468149

can anyone tell me what this is
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>>79468196

That's more /meg/ territory but I don't think /pg/ would be opposed to that kind of conversation, necessarily.
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>>79468097
Atsubro, don't you have a date with Amane right about now?

You should get to it, unless you LIKE eating Megidos from your girlfriend.
How good would Amane be as a waifu anyway, Atsubro?
And do you guys also ship Amane x Atsuro? Or something else...? Honest question.
>>
So is Persona Q going to be worth playing or is it dumbed down Etrian Odyssey with annoying cutscenes every five seconds like it seems to be
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>>79468514
>Atlus dungeon crawler
>Ever bad
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>>79468507
>shipping
No.
>>79468514
It probably will be at least a little bit of fun. Hard to know without playing it.
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>>79468507

>shipping anyone with anyone besides all the girls with the main character

all the waifus belong to me
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>>79468727
No, all your waifus ultimately belong to ME, Son of Man.

Unless you're demon enough to TAKE them from me...
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>>79468196
This is from one of those live-action porns, right?
Nobody could seriously be autistic enough to just photoshop something like that. R-right?
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>>79468834

I already did, go check.
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>>79468507

>amane x atsuro.

How? Atsuro is only smart with computers, and is ideologically AND personality-wise incompatible with her.
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>>79468880
Unfortunately, they exist, Anon.
Fortunately, we can devour them.
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>>79468982
Well who else does Atsuro go with?
Yuzu is for MC. Midori is for Keisuke.
Leaves either Amane, Shoji, or Haru.

Which?
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>>79468392
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>>79469139

atsuro x main character

maybe he can be the waifu tonight
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>>79469139

No one
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>>79469198

goddamn am I glad I missed that thread

On the other hand I would have realized /pg/ was shit a lot faster had I been there for that.
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>I'm enjoying MegaTen 2 more than SMT1

What the hell?
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>>79470245
>tfw too burned out by MT1 to go on
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>>79469139

You do know that more girls exist in the game's universe than the ones shown onscreen, right? The idea that its more likely that just because they're shown they would be together despite zero precedent over that they would just find someone else. The only thing they vaguely have in common is both being antisocial. But even then, amane is in charge of a large organization and probably knows how to find other people like her. Have they ever even spoken to eachother?
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>>79470245
Because there's no nerve bullet shit this time.
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>>79470245
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>>79470245
KMT came out after SMT1, SMT2, and If...
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>>79470779
But did they really change that much from the gameplay of the original MT2?
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>Playing KMT (MT1)
>Too low level to beat the first boss
>Shitty demons
>Dont feel like backtracking 7 fucking floors just to fuse them
>Will probably die if i do it
Should I just skip to MT2?
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It's time, fellow Anons!
The moon is full!
The fated hour is nigh!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQ2Cj608xVU&index=32&list=PLDABB8FBE123392F0

Post your favorite demon designs!
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>>79470878
never bothered with OG MT2 but OG MT1 is wizardry levels of impossible, in the beggining its literally:
>enter dungeon
>defeat one enemy if you're lucky
>go back up
>heal
>repeat for 3 hours
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>>79471098
it's 7/8 you fuck
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>>79471203
Was there no chest to buy a weapon?
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>>79471206
I couldn't find a better picture you dick.
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>>79471254
oh, oops.
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Hecate, Legion, Arahabaki, Baphomet, Lailah, Cu Chulainn, and Kikuru-hime are some of my favorites. Beldr is also pretty great looking.

Cu and Arahabaki get points for being my two favorite demons in the games I've played so far (DeSu and Nocturne).
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I finished 4 a week back and now I'm moving onto Nocturne.

Where do you reckon I'll start running into something that'll give me trouble? Matador wasn't that tough, since I was wise to his bullshit.

Magic build if that affects your answer, I did a STR build in 4
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>>79471098
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>>79471251
can't remember I tried it like 3 or 4 years ago
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>>79471439
Here is what Abel/DeSu MC does in case of Beldr, as I remember an Anon posting a few days ago:

>YOU CAN'T FIGHT HIM HE'S IMMORTAL!
>Like I care
>Beat up a bunch of old worshipers and steal their cellphone strap
>Wear it like brass knuckles
>Facefuck an "immortal" demon god with it
>Absorb his soul
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>>79471098
This guy should have been a mount in Imagine.
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>>79471448
>smt 3
>not going full LUCK build
u dont goofd
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>>79471709
Best demon design
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>>79471826
Pretty much.

I think the only "Bel" I didn't like in DeSu was Belial. He had so much buildup for an overall dull fight.
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>>79471894
Is that actually good? 4 was my first so I don't know about these fancy builds
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>>79472049
Literally:
>ICE DANCE
>ICE DANCE
>ICE DANCE
>ICE DANCE
>ICE DANCE
>==MISSION COMPLETED!==

Only hard part was on the first playthrough, skill-cracking Deathbound, Megido, and any 2 other good ones.
Hated how some of them were missable.
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>>79471448
The start up to Matador is honestly the hardest part of Nocturne. Once you get past Thor the difficulty drops off hardcore
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>>79473136
>>79473048
Is it wrong that I prefer Lilim less and prefer Yaksini more?
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>>79472707

it is true that the female angels leave a little to be desired. The outfit of regular angel is amazing. That hair is bad though.
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>>79473263
Nah, it's cool.
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>>79471098
>screenshot sais 7/8 kagutsuchi
>tiny-as-fuck resolution
Yeah nah, fix that shit.
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Here's something I'm wondering. Who is exactly in charge of the world on a given random time that's not a demon invasion? Things like devil survivor do imply that there are SOME demons out during then. And that some of these are working to prevent others from getting out. The ones trying to get out usually seem to be chaos. Angels on the other hand just "show up" when wanted half the time. However, in desu O, metatron has to summon some. Maybe some let out others?

If the world is regularly neutral at random given times, does that mean neutral demons are in charge? Ones like zeus who don't care much about spreading a random ideology to humans, since they are just vaguely there and mostly distant? But then is the great will in charge in a wider sense? Is it still law? How does this tie into nocturne, if at all? Is it meant to kind of be contradictory, and we're not supposed to understand it? Over 30 games, if there's no obvious answer by now, I think we can assume they're being intentionally vague.
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>>79473352
Which outfit? The one wearing black or the one wearing blue?
>>79473374
Thanks.
>>79473825
How about you first give me a demon design you like and a Life Stone, and then we'll talk?
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>>79474019
Here, there's a Lifestone inside one of the mouths. If you can correctly guess which one, you may just walk away with your arm intact.
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>>79474019

both, really. Its so lewd that angel just has no pants on, like Haniel. Both of them you could just walk up to and fuck in ass. Its mostly the hair that's a problem.
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>>79474015
It seems to me that YHVH is generally the one in charge, with the exception of Strange Journey, but he has a very hands off approach which allows other Law and some neutral demons a good deal of leeway. An SMT game usually happens when either Law factions try to push the world more towards what they think YHVH wants or Chaos tries to break his protection over the human world
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>>79473374
It's the hair, all right? Long flowing hair like that just turns me on for some reason.

>>79474296
I have Argilla for that. Heat wouldn't hurt one of his own comrades willingly, would he? Plus, the Life Stone must be blocking him from breathing right. It would be doing him a favor.
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>>79474371
But the questions are...

Would they let you?
Would they like it?
and Would it be any good?


Also, why do you hate the hair so much? Just curious.
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>>79474389

But what are the logistics of the law endings then? YHVH wants a very lawful world... but only if it gets established right after putting down a demon invasion? In that light, it makes it very suspect that in every game, YHVH is mostly associated with law (save for depending how you interpret whether mastema was lying in IV) and yet apparently he lets universes dick around in neutral til he decides they're ready for law?

I guess maybe if you project bible logic onto it he lets people live in neutral to test who should be reborn into the lawful world, and then punts out everyone else? Or if you use nocturne logic, he lets them dick around in neutral until he decides that any given universe can't live properly in neutral, and then law-ifies it? But if that's true, then does that mean that he ultimately WANTS neutral to win, but thinks that its unlikely that neutral could ever achieve full stability? That seems at odds with what actually happens in any of the games.

I guess the last option is that he is the strongest god in the world, but not the only one. And so its not until some instability happens that the other ones can be properly usurped who are not themselves law. But in raidou it implies that he is in control in general. Which also strangely implies that he wants the events of smt I and II to happen, despite it ending in his death. Which... does that mean that he set that in stone before he became "corrupted in II?" The conspiracy deepens.
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>>79474879
>Plus, the Life Stone must be blocking him from breathing right.
I highly doubt that a two-headed Demon has a single esophagus.
Besides, I'm pretty sure he'd kill anyone to protect Sera.
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I'm not sure which of the PS2 SMTs I should get. I find the settings of all of them to be interesting. Raidou is probably the most interesting to me but I hear the gameplay is crap.
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>>79475225

1, If I'm law enough, presumably one would eventually. 2, probably, and 3, yes.

It doesn't look as bad when down. I just think the whole hair levitating in the air pointing forwards thing looks very ugly, and gives a tone that seems a bit dubious. I also don't really like blond hair in general. I get that for the "standard" angel they wanted to make everything as "light" as possible. I just think that the head itself could be done a bit better.

In person it does look better, since hair is down though.
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>>79476407
It's not that bad. If you're that worried, you can skip to Raidou 2.
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>>79475662
I'm thinking that since YHVH isn't portrayed as omnipotent in the SMT universe he's not able to easily force the world into his ideal shape until his forces can take advantage of some catastrophe. Law basically initiated the crisis in SMT1 with the nuclear strike on Japan, and the resultant Tokyo Millenium probably would have ended up better if the Hero canonically sided with Law instead of Neutral, since the Center would have ended up considerably less corrupted without the chaos influence on the world. Law ending in SMT2 would've been more or less an ideal situation for YHVH except he didn't expect Satan to turn his judgement on his creator. The Black Samurai appearing in Mikado was the catalyst for law to play their hand after sitting on a corrupt kingdom for a thousand years since Gabby finally had an excuse to go rescue the other archangels from Tokyo
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>>79476407
Raidou 1 is pretty flawed but I think the second one is one of the best MegaTen games overall
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>>79476407
Playing through it atm, the combat's kinda meh. Still, sticking to it to see the story through, plus it still has fusion which makes up for it a bit.
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>>79474015
>>79474389

Outside of SMT 1 and 2 I'm not convinced YHVH is even around. YHVH is the manifestation of the great will in the physical world, for the mainline series, but that doesn't guarantee that he's around in the spin offs. He's certainly not in DDS.

I think it's more likely that the supporter of the Reason which becomes the foundation for the new world fills YHVH's role in that given world, in terms of relationship to the great will and opposition to Lucifer, etc.
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>>79476792

As someone (not the one you were talking to) who has a lot of games on backlog to play, and wants to hit all the "important" smts, but doesn't quite care enough to hit the ones that might be boring, do I honestly need to hit raidou 1? What am I really missing by not doing so?
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>>79477125
Not that guy, but the story has some good/clever/fun moments. Plus you're a detective going around with your cat partner solving cases.
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>>79477125
You'll be missing out on a great story, but if that's not enough to sway you then it's no big deal. Maybe just come back to Raidou 1 at a later point.
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>>79477062

In devil survivor they identify the god there as yehowah. Its pretty easy to assume they mean the same god as yhvh. Raidou seems to take place in the same universe as smt I, so there, its presumably yhvh too.

But define "yhvh." In IV, they just use the word "god," but do you really think we're supposed to assume that they mean some different god? Lucifer still seems to consider him his main enemy. And it would seem a little bizarre if we were to assume that the same lucifer shows up in almost every world, but yet yhvh was only the god of one single world? The same metatron shows up in other games. When he says he's one with god, he's referring to different gods? Lucifer must have a poor track record if all these totally different gods trash him in every universe, and each have the same angels serving them for some reason.

Obviously it seems like yhvh isn't present in some universes. So he's not present in every world. But it definitely seems to imply that he is the main highest god and avatar of the great will. The real question is whether brahman and polaris are related to the great will, or are their own thing. Arguably the multiverse could just be so big that these entities are so far away that they have little knowledge of yhvh there. Or maybe the great will is indifferent, but yhvh makes use of it. Kagutsuchi seems to obviously be related to yhvh, despite having a different personality.

Of course, maybe there's no answer on purpose.
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>get a game over in MT1
>Charon revives me if I pay him cash
>no penalty otherwise it seems

Does this always happen if you game over, or is there some sort of luck factor to it? Only losing half your cash is a rather lenient punishment for getting a game over.
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>>79478581
Do you think, even in this day and age, that relegious references are causing problems for SMT IV in Europe?
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>MT 2 will never receive the love it deserves
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>>79477446
>>79477464

What is the story / end boss of raidou 1? I heard about time traveling future people from the smt universe, but is that in II? On the megaten wiki it doesn't even seem to say what the plot of 1 is, or who the end boss is.
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>>79478674
>save state
>die
>find out
Didnt the original make you start all over with whatevers in your pocket? Sounds better to me
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>>79478830

I doubt it. It flies under the radar even in america.
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>>79478674
Every time. You also get taken back to the last savepoint.
And losing half your cash is pretty big deal if you're trying to save money for equipment.
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>>79479108
yeah but that requires effort

>>79479180
That's a fair point, I have noticed that money is incredibly tight. I guess I'm just used to how SMT1 and 2 sends you back to the title screen.
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>>79479180
>Every time. You also get taken back to the last savepoint.
So.... why not just load
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>>79479427
Levels, map progress, chest items, bosses.
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Any tips for KMT(MTII)?
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Goto didn't do anything wrong.
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>>79479709

Take screenshots of you siding with yhvh while sipping a martini and flipping off the globe.
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>>79479849
Staging a violent military coup and letting demons flood your country and murder innocent civilians is wrong
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So I just finished SMT1. Do I jump on KMT train with everyone else or just continue with SMT2?
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How do you guys feel when you use an incense or other stat increasing items?
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>>79480312
Nice.
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>>79480239
It really doesn't matter. The release order is SMT I, SMT II, KMT
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>>79480239
SMT2
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>>79480239
MT 2 MT 2 MT 2 MT LOST ARM
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>>79480106
SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST, BITCH.
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>>79480106

Are you perhaps in fact saying that you perchance are not [spoiler[a large fan of the time honored and reputable establishment of Greek culture?
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>>79480239

You should have played II first. Is story is shit, and IIs is better if you play it being thrust into the world with only a vague backstory.
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>>79478581

In terms of whether or not Brahman is related to the great will, I would say so because I think DDS 1 and 2 follow from the normal demon ending of nocturne. Kagutsuchi complains about having to wait for the next chance at conception in this case, and then the demi-fiend gets left in the shadow vortex (at least I'm pretty sure it's the shadow vortex) which explains his appearance in DDS 1 and Satan in DDS 2. Brahman would be in this case a world that came from a reason after the events of nocturne.

I also think it's entirely feasible that the forces of Law in SMT IV are being led by the upper archangels and possibly metatron rather than by a physical manifestation of the great will. It wouldn't be the first time in the series archangels were acting based on their interpretation of God's wishes without having direct orders to do a certain thing. And there is division in the Law ranks.
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>>79480312

I feel like buying another 9 lucky tickets and waiting for the next full kagutsuchi. Why do you ask?
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>>79481195
The Ancient of Days in SMTIV would seem to imply that YHVH at least approves of the archangels' plans
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>>79481195

In the flashback, Mastema does say run "to God" though. And if all those universes come from the same one, then ancient of days existing implies that something or other vaguely does in each one probably, whether or not it has real power to do much. Even if there's no directly manifested form of yhvh there, them still doing the will of yhvh implies his vague presence.

Unless of course the angels use god as an empty symbol, and create different "God"'s in different universes to fill the role. Like a kind of large calculating machine they use to calculate what should be done.
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>>79481420

I think it's more likely that the ancient of days is the closest thing that Blasted Tokyo actually has to a YHVH.

Nocturne is pretty heavily kabbalah inspired and in the kabbalah, the ancient of days is what emanates Light in such a way that resultes in the created universe which is basically what happens in the Reason endings of nocturne. I also don't think that Blasted Tokyo having an Ancient of Days means that regular Tokyo does as well. I got the impression that the white were showing separate worlds in the amala network that beared very close resemblance to the one the game mostly takes place in.
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>>79481378
Playing through Raidou 1 and keep getting incenses more and more often which make me salivate.
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>>79482125

>Nocturne is pretty heavily kabbalah inspired and in the kabbalah, the ancient of days is what emanates Light in such a way that resultes in the created universe which is basically what happens in the Reason endings of nocturne.

SMT in general is pretty kabbalah inspired, especially in yhvh's relation to the great will / ein sof. But what makes you say nocturne specifically is?
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>>79482349

Mainly the fact that it really gets into the metaphysics of the way the SMT multiverse is created/ordered which seems to resemble how our own universe is, according to the kabbalah. The nature of what light is, and all that. Plus there's the candelabrum which I believe are named after the different parts of the sephirot.
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>>79476440
>What I wouldn't give for a writerfag/authorfag to write me a short story about romancing an Angel, completely loaded with sex, romance, love, and feels.
>The same sort of feels one would get at Tatsuya and Maya's wedding, and on their honeymoon. ;D
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I'm playing SMT I and i just got to Tokyo Destiny Land, how close am i to the end of the game?
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>>79483056
Pretty close as long as you manage not to spend a million hours in the Cathedral
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>>79481195
Brahman was always the God of DDS. He was never YHVH which Schrodinger, a being that achieve englightenment, outright says in that end.

Data can travel from other universes and end up in new ones. That's how demons can travel rom one universe to another, and in the DDS one the Four Archangels had at some point had their data processed in the past and was reincarnated as human scientists.

The Great Will and YHVH are associated with each other, which is also why Catholic Churches are specifically pointed out as being the only places where people worship the Great Will. If you go to some Japanese/Hindu/Buddhist shrine and worship those Gods it won't do jack to the Great Will.

Also, even the Demi-Fiend's appearance can be explain as memories of Demi-Fiend at a certain point, since memories too are just another form of data, and the data that observed his existence could end up there.
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>>79483016
I really need these sort of "feel-inducing" romantic pictures. And I wasn't kidding about the story I wanted.

Anybody care to oblige?
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>>79483214
No.
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>>79483302
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>>79483157
How close, is it like i'm on the final dungeon in DDS 1?
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>>79483573
pretty much
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>>79480596
Fucking Kin-Ki

I bought skill augment and I had this Kin-ki

Never even used him, he was permabenched.

ALL HE DID. EVERY SINGLE LEVEL UP, WAS TRY TO LEARN SPELLS. LIKE HE THOUGHT I'D USE HIM IF HE BECAME A WIZARD
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>>79483664
Ok, thanks man.
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>>79483214
I can write that for you.
in spanish
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>>79483168

I'm not trying to say that Brahman was YHVH, I'm thinking that Brahman may have taken YHVH's place in that universe metaphysically speaking, due to the reason that went into its creation.

As for the demi-fiend's appearance, I would be more inclined to think it could be like a memory/cameo if not for Satan who I believe Schrodinger indicates is the one from SMT2.
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>>79483836
I can translate it myself afterward?
...That could work. But I wonder if anyone else can write that story. I'd like to keep your offer open at any rate.
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>>79483168

Schrodinger saying he wasn't the same entity doesn't mean he's not in some way affiliated with the great will. Wit the great will what is / is not the same entity may not even be concrete. And with demons to a lesser extent in general.
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>>79483898
YHVH is not replaced when a demon sponsor creates a world.
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>>79483749
Maybe he wants to impress you, seeing as you have badass magical powers, it'd be nice if he had some too.

If his Mag wasn't FUCKING ABYSMAL.
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>>79483168
>why Catholic Churches are specifically pointed out as being the only places where people worship the Great Will

>irish are lawfags

wat
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>>79484448
>Implying the Irish even exist in SMT, where Japan is center of the universe.
No offense meant to anyone who is actually Irish.
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>>79484157
He impressed me more when I made his ass into Ongyo-Ki

But it was still funny seeing this big brick shithouse going "HEY BOSS, YOU WANT ME TO LEARN SHIBABOO? MAYBE CONCENTRATE?"
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>>79483168
>>79483898

And yeah I definitely think YHVH and the great will are related because I think YHVH is the being which is the physical manifestation of the great will in SMT 1 and 2.

The way it appears to work to me is that there's the Great Will that exists outside of any given universe. Metatron seems to serve this being directly. A step below that is Kagutsuchi who comes into being for the purpose of creation, at the end of a world. Kagutsuchi judges the Reasons which will become the basis for Law in the newly created world. Then a step from that is YHVH, or the Ancient of Days, or other manifestations of God which uphold Law within a given universe. The angels mostly seem to report to and obey that final manifestation, with a few exceptions, considering how they flock to different Reasons during the events of Nocturne. The only thing Law really represents in the vortex world is the continued cycle of creation, no matter which Reason wins out in the end.
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>>79483898
The Four Archangels also reference the Thousand Year Kingdom and only Gabriel realizes they aren't in the same world.

Brahman is a creator God of his own world, just as Polaris is the administrator is the overseer of a countless number of worlds and is "God" in the sense that he oversees creation and has YHVH's arrogance, but is a legacy where one North Star takes the throne eventually. Also Hoshigami who made her own Universe and is basically Girl YHVH without being a dick.

>>79484017
The later games treat the two as the same thing. Even a Flauros NPC in Nocturne mentions that Metatron was sent by the Great Will.

Only in the early games did they try to distinguish them as separate, but they stopped doing that over time.
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>>79484553
>I CAN CONCENTRATE REAL HARD, BOSS!
>HNNNNNNNNNNG....!
>Head explodes from concentrating so much.
>Comes out as Last Resort
>All enemies are blown away to smithereens.
>Revival Bead
>"THANKS BOSS! I DID REAL GOOD, DIDN'T I?"
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>>79484925

Now that is SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST
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>>79484673
YHVH is a part of the Great Will, not the Great Will himself.
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>>79484925
I swear, this is just comic material here.
This is begging for someone to draw it.
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>>79483168

>is also why Catholic Churches are specifically pointed out as being the only places where people worship the Great Will. If you go to some Japanese/Hindu/Buddhist shrine and worship those Gods it won't do jack to the Great Will.

There are no "catholic" churches. In the main universe, its implied that most religions eventually slowly merged into the two (arguably three depending how you interpret vague neutralish things) ones. In IV, hugo looks like a buddhist monk. so you'd go to messian churches to pray to all these things, but definitely mostly yhvh. Other religions than the main two likely exist, but less established.

>>79484673

They were always vaguely lumped together. In II yhvh isn't saying that the great will is some other entity that created him to be a different thing. Great will seems to imply an abstract force of reality that he arises from and is the face of. What sabaoth "is" even hints at this, and the ancient of days saying later in iv that "the dispensation of the universe is collective" is similar. The great will is literally an abstract representation of the "collective will," which is why law is about doing things for the collective. YHVH is the single embodiment of it, but it as a whole will exist even if he dies, and will bring him back when needed. So when necessary and people adress him as god he insists he "is" it, but when dying he says that "it" will bring him back.
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>>79485738
There are Catholic churches in Raidou, which is the same universe as SMT1 until the events of The Soulless Army happens
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>>79485738
>>79485849

I kind of figured the world of SMT 1 was supposed to mostly resemble ours up to the point demons start coming out of computers and shit, at which point the Order of Messiah becomes the top religion by virtue of having the power of "I told you so."

I haven't played Raidou 1 yet though and I haven't played that much of SMT 1 given the mapping is pure suffering .
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>>79485738
And when YHVH is broken into piece it can't do jack and is perfectly okay with abandoning worlds when things really don't go its way like in Majin Tensei and Yuzu's 8th Day.

>>79485849
Actually Catholic Churches exist into King Abaddon. Lucifer even comments how he likes Churches.

And the Soulless Army didn't change anything, as Raidou XL points out, all of his actions were meaningless and the future was still on track. That's why he decides to try to fight Raidou to the death since he's doomed to wander the timestream forever for failing.
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According to the wiki, the order of messiah is mentioned in MTII as having arisen in 2011.
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>>79485738
>In the main universe, its implied that most religions eventually slowly merged into the two (arguably three depending how you interpret vague neutralish things) ones
Only in the devastated futures, which is understandable.
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Any tips for defeating Merkabah in SMT IV? I'm on like my 5th try now. I've been buffing and removing stat penalties and even acquired the doping skill but still no go. Every time I get to his second form where he asks me the question but die a little after. Maybe my level is the problem? I'm level 76
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>>79486494
76 is fine for SMTIV endgame. Maybe you aren't doing enough damage and the fight's dragging out too long?
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>>79485849

There were? In japan? I never played raidou.

Also, the messian church was apparently founded in "20XX," so to hold to that, they had to not have it exist in actual historical time periods.

You know what makes me sad though. SMT jaded me. I often accidentally get into discussions with people on actual religion forums where I accidentally stray into assuming that they understand the logic of order / maximal preventing of negative outcome in terms of religion, and so can be reasoned with using messian logic. But nope. They're republicans, and think that putting a penis in a man's asshole is inherently evil for no reason. We need to hurry up and merge the religions into messianism already. Some things are too stupid to exist.
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>>79486494
what are your stats
what's flynn using
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>>79486494
git gud.
no srsly what demons are you using?
at level 76 is just dissapointing not like, that fucking fly.
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>>79486683
There's one Catholic church in the Raidou games in the baka gaijin district
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>>79486610
Without buffs I'm doing me and my demons around the same level are doing 250-ish damage. With buffs I'm doing 600-700 damage

Most of the game I've focused on my magic/dex stat (both are over 100)
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>>79486683
>We need to hurry up and merge the religions into messianism already. Some things are too stupid to exist.

Fuck you, beadman.
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>>79486462
Which is over 20 years after the game was released.

>>79486683
20XX was supposed to be after the nuclear holocaust, since SMT1 begins in 199X and the timeskip is 30 years later.
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>>79486687
I have most of the high/severe magic spells with a healing/revival and megidolan.

Dex/Mag or over 100 with Mag at like 145
Luck is at 70 and everything else is 60 and 43 for strength
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>>79486927

http://megamitensei.wikia.com/wiki/Order_of_Messiah

Its MTII where they're said to be from later. I guess that doesn't carry over to SMT. Even if its implied to be similar in time.
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>>79487329
I knew it. Fucking Hikawa.
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>>79487484

How smart exactly are we supposed to assume Hikawa is? He more or less plugged a computer into a drum, and turned the world off. If its that simple, why doesn't anyone else do it in any other game?
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>>79487920
Because he found the scriptures that detail how to do that shit.

The Gaeans had buried it with the million other religious stuff they had and realized they fucked up when he found it.
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>>79487484
that guy sure is bald.
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>>79456745
do you even trastart, you damn scrub
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>>79488158

>bald

New theory. The reason the angels were chaotic in nocturne and yhvh doesn't show up is because he didn't exist yet. Shijima is the canon ending, and in that ending he enslaved the defeated angels and forced them to be law.
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I know I've asked a lot of questions already but I have another Q about SMTIV.

What's up with analyzing? Sometimes it'll give me the weaknesses/resists/spells of a demon right away and other times I don't and it just pops up randomly in 1 battle, or 5 battles after that one. What gives?!
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>>79484673
I want to motorboat tiamat's titties

dear lord just look at them
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>>79488158
Idiot. He's not bald. That's a fucking giant widow's peak.
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>>79487920

Apparently it's a pretty tough thing to do, or at least that's the impression I got from the way they talk about him looking for the scripture of miroku and all that. He had to manipulate the gaians into conflict with the messians and do all the other necessary evil shit required to make the conception occur.

And he went in already having a Reason ready to go, demons and spirits supporting him, a big system for collecting magatsuhi in place with a lot of infrastructure for supporting his ideal world in the region the assembly of nihilo controlled. The only thing that really prevented him from outright winning was not being quite as much of a dick as he otherwise could have, since he let Takao call the player, Issamu and Chiaki to the hospital who became his biggest rivals in the Reason Race. If he had killed them like the others he sacrificed to his cause, I don't think there would have been anything really standing in his way. Hijiri certainly couldn't have stopped him even had he been on his way to the hospital independently.
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>>79488545

Its a joke some random person one day insisted hikawa was bald, so people are making fun of that.
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>>79488412

I would reference you to the discussion we had about YHVH and the great will earlier in the thread.
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>>79468986
>Fortunately, we can devour them.

Ugh, gross.
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>>79488661

Now that I'm looking at him with that in mind, that could be a really awful hairpiece. But who would wear a hairpiece that awful?
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>>79488546
But we know the truth.
Hijiri never made it to the hospital. He just got revived into the Vortex World, after dying in the Conception, because he's Aleph.

>>79488661
Didn't know that.
>>79488907
It's Hikawa. He's an evil asshole.
You already have your answer right there.

>>79488509
>I want to morotboat Tiamat's titties.
>I want to fuck Mirai.
What next?
>I want to rapture Angel?
Heh. That's not bad, actually. Better given that it's the truth.
Where the hell is the Angel story I politely requested for?!


>>79488768
Well, I shudder to think what sort of "powers" we'd gain if we even TRIED to devour them. They probably taste horrible to boot.
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>>79488546

Yeah. It seems like his main flaw was picking your teacher to side with him, even though she clearly was hesitant to, and obviously going to try to betray. But maybe he had to for some reason, like she was the only one it would work with. It seems odd that random kids who had no chance to prepare somehow got ahead.
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>>79480239
I know you probably already decided, but 2 or you will be annoyed having to readjust to older gameplay.
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I never played SMT1 and 2

Are the original SNES versions the best ones to play or are there any remakes or ports you'd recommend over them?
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>>79489691
that your only option.
or Ios if you are a apple owning fagget.
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>>79489691
The SNES versions are probably the best choice, yes.
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>>79489691
It depends if you can into moonspeak.
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>>79489836
I don't even have a smartphone.

>>79489906
I can't into runes.

>>79489839

So I'll stick to SNES emulation then.

Thanks.
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>>79489258

It's possible he needed a maiden of creation according to the scripture of miroku or something. She apparently had good magatsuhi collecting powers, or... something along those lines. I think that's why he wanted her in the new world since she was key to the nightmare system which was what gave him such an immediate lead. Letting her call the three students there was probably a calculated risk on his part given that I guess he figured they would be less of a threat to his Reason than the demons who were collecting Magatsuhi for their own ends but, since humans are the only ones who can have a reason, he probably would have been better off dealing with them a lot sooner.
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>>79490140
>I don't even have a smartphone.

Thats ok, these things have demons inside.
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>>79462472
Stop forcing this
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>>79490838

I don't. I only posted it three times total. Someone else decided it was funny and started doing it. And it hasn't been posted in like weeks anyways. Why do you hate hotdogs?
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>>79488412
Reasons are not chaos.

Yosuga is a world of STR with a strict hierarchy and the future is already predetermined. Everything falls into place.
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>>79490968
>never read manuals
>today i notice that the manual of nocturne says: "Limited Edition Directors cut"

Wut.
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>>79490967
Because they are cheap and filled with filler meat. In a world of chaos we would all eat those giant anime meats from DBZ.
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>>79491650
Might be referring to the fact that we got the Maniax version of Nocturne, not the original.
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>>79489079

Fine. Quit whining, I'll make you a story. NSFW I come up behind Haniel and reach my arms around his chest, holding him against me gently, yet firmly. I gently caress his chest, and play with it rubbing up and down to get a good feel of his soft skin, while he whimpers excitedly in anticipation. I move my hands down to where his legs are shyly held together and move them apart to start fondling his dick. I kiss his neck for awhile, and rub his dick gently as it slowly gives him an erection. Playing with his dick gives me an erection too, and I can feel him shudder in anticipation as he feels my dick rubbing into him.

I turn him around to face me, and pull his face to me to kiss him intensely, while rubbing my dick against his. I lay him down on the previously unmentioned bed, with his wings spread out underneath him, and pull his legs up to slip my dick into his ass. I hold him tight, and thrust into him while leaning forward to kiss him. I reach down to grab around his dick and start jerking. He starts whimpering. as he gets closer, and I start moving faster too in anticipation. Unable to hold myself, I start shooting off in his ass, and he starts moaning heavily, since he's getting close too, and feels warm from the cum in his full ass. I pull out fast, and slide my mouth down over his dick just in time to give it a few sucks and tongue rounds before he shoots off into it, whimpering heavily. Then we descend to earth from on high to exterminate filth.
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>>79494565
I do not know what to think about this.
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>>79494565
Me neither. And I asked for a story.
Eh, just gotta change a few words and it's golden.

Thanks...I guess.
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>>79494565
Nigger you a gay.
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>>79494565
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>>79494897
Is Isabeau a fujoshit?
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>tfw want to finish Soul Hackers
>can't bring myself to it because it's so boring

The maze that is the Underground Ruins is killing me, how do you find this fun?
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>>79495556
obviously
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>>79495556
Of course she is, she reads Versailles.
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>>79495653
>Underground Ruins
>Bad
It's very linear.

Amami Monolith was THOUSAND times worse.

Also you're literally at the end of the game, only final boss left.
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>>79495653
>having problem with that shit
What the fuck
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>>79495653
What, you mean the final dungeon? I just autobattled my way through and accidentally beat Manitou.
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>>79495920
How?
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>>79495748
As if you ever heard of it outside SMT4, you faggot.
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>>79495653
I really like this UI, more than 3DS version.
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>>79496141
fuck you I read up about it you fag enjoy your lesbians
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>>79494565
Oh my~
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>>79496318
I've only seen the anime.
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>>79496046
I accidentally wandered into his room and beat the game.
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>>79496634
I mean how did you get so strong?
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>>79497112
he drank a lot of milk
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Would you guys buy a MegaTen that took place in Mexico? Shin Megami Tensei: Viaje Extraño
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>>79498496

No, but why isn't santa muerte a demon?
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>>79498496
>Red Sprite
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>>79498496
I'd buy a MegaTen that took place fucking anywhere at this point.
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>>79499538
Even in a favela?
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>>79499690
Definitely. That could be really interesting, actually.
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>>79498496
La Verdadera Reencarnación de la Diosa: Invocador de Diablos: Radio Cojonuda contra el Ejército Desalmado
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>>79499781
>demons working with humans
>exploring
>wrong alley
>pretas and brs staring at you
>MACCA BEAM
>MACCA BEAM
>MACCA BEAM
____Macca beam_____
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>>79499928
*Otro dios rechazado
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>>79498496
>SMT in Mexico D.F.
>Having to deal with fucking chilangos in my SMT
no thanks
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>>79500104
I didn't request or draw that pic, and I didn't want to post it because of that mistake, but it's the most related pic I had at hand.

>Nocturno / Llamada de Lucifer
>Saga del Diablo Digital: Sintonizador de Avatar
>Superviviente Diabólico
>Pecado Inocente y Castigo Eterno
I actually like the translated names.
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>>79500246
>special random encounter
>Los Zetas
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>>79500539
Zetas would be Gaians, who would equate to Messians? Golfo?
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>>79498496
If it was a la DDS that involves multiple references and nice touches about the mythology of the place but not actually being located in there (being located in a fictional location) sure
Actually being set in there?, ugh not really and this is coming from someone that lives there
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>>79500871
But DDS took place in America
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>>79500871
What if it's not in D.F. somewhere more like Monterrey? If it's post-apocalyptic then I don't think it'd be much different from say, tokyo in SMT IV, though.
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>>79501043
What makes you say that?
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>>79501109
DDS2 uses US Dollars as currency
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>>79501109
If you actually pay attention to the dungeons, there's various roadsigns and shit, like Portland.
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>>79501109
Dollars as currency, Portland and other New York areas on street signs.
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Hey, anyone has another link for the dds music?
The ones in the pastebin are broken I think
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>>79499928
>David not in that picture
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I'm on the first floor in mt1 and I'm level 12. I was told the boss is 17.i fought literally everything, how am I so far behind?
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>>79502260
Level 12 is fine, you aren't supposed to be the same level as the boss. If you have mostly level 12 demons, and Cerberos for some recarm action you are good.
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>>79502082
David doesn't get enough love. Especially since he's the best dancer of all the Fiends.
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>>79500246
>implying you wouldnt buy it
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>>79503658
Maybe, if I can turn Food race demons into tacos.
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>>79494565
just like my gay cartoons.
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>>79504968

Which? Pico to chico?
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>>79501067
monterrey is gay.
and is already a wasteland.
>>79500246
fuck you, ese.
>>79500498
they sound edgy as fuck.
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>>79504968
What else can you expect from the angel of love?
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>>79505647
jesus christ this is fucking horrible
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>>79505647
What the fuck is that? Why does it look like shit?
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>>79505743
What's wrong with it?
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>>79505647
which one of the kamen rider artists made this one?
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>>79505851
It's Zeus and the two persona versions of him. He is only available after beating Elizabeth, who he has possessed.
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>>79505647

What the fuck i this gibberish?
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>>79505926
Soejima.
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>>79505313
Literal translations are usually shit, but with some tweaking you can make good titles.
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>>79506157

>TFW that top right one looks awesome, but the finished product doesn't. Dat scarf tho.
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>>79506157
>Those two on the right

Shit nigga, that's kawaii.
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>>79506157
No, it was Yuji Himukai artist, why would you lie like that?
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>>79506157
>Soejima

Are you retarded?

It says "Creator: Yuji Himukai" right there.

The Etrian Odyssey loli guy.
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>>79506701
why that semen demon has a mokoi in the head.
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>>79506701
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>>79506864
Because.
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>>79507027
>713 posts in and I'm still waiting for the fuck mirai anon
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Get out of here /eog/
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>>79506864
Helps with extracting semen from demons.
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>>79501942
Anyone? ;_;
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>>79507292
See >>79370764
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>>79507292

>>79370764
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>>79507323
i would rather have /eog/ than /pg/ or /feg/ like usual.
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>You will never travel to Istanbul with mokoi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4Gq5xl5sng
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>>79507323
Fine.
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I wish EO had enemy recruitment/ capturing
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>>79507702
I wish EO was a good video game series
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>>79507458
How about /pwaag/?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuIdjU1I-08
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>>79507292
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>>79507629
no pls, /eog/ come back, you can blame it all on me
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>>79507820

I wish your mom was a good lay.
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>>79507851
CLAMP pls.
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>>79507820
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>>79507829
I wonder if Demi-Fiend is the mother.
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>>79507820
EO's alright, the big problem is the dungeons are too simple and lacking in puzzle solving elements except for the 6th strata
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>>79507829
why demifiend stole raidou clothes.
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>>79507970
Nope it's the EO artist.

Though I am more interested in the Mobile game cause there are new demon designs. They made Berith even more of a shota riding a toy horse.
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>>79507829
How about if Kaneko doesn't announce Raidou 3 we riot?
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>>79508068
>Wanting a dungeon crawler with puzzles.
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>>79508615
Lone Marebito is the sequel to King Abaddon.

It even has an alien that sought to begin instrumentality.
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>>79508615
or we shit in his water!
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>>79508068
EO3 had some good puzzles throughout. I'd like more though.
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>>79508068
The 6th stratum in EO1/U is crazy. trying to navigate that hellscape while dodging those Sanic-fast birds is tense.

Strange Journey wasn't nearly at that level.
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>>79508615
>Nuke the Gaians
>Doesn't realize Raidou is the chosen one to defeat God and can usurp his control of the timeline.
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>>79508697

is marebito fully translated? and is not a prequel?
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>>79473352
>tfw this artist has like no other smt stuff
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What's more useful, buffs or debuffs?
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>>79509234
It will never be translated.

It's the curse of Megaten that all SMT mangas will never be completely translated.
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>>79509302
That picture is shit anyway
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>>79509330
both
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>>79509330
Depends on whether the enemy has Dekunda or Dekaja. Or, for a more generic fashion, compare he number of bosses in the game that have one to the number that has the other.
Ideally, you'd stack both to max.
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>>79509330
If the enemy has neither dekaja/dekunda or has both of them, then debuffs would be better since they wouldn't lose any potency if one of your demons dies/gets switched out. It depends on the situation though; the best example is Matador in Nocturne where debuffs are relatively useless since he has dekunda but buffs wreck his shit
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>>79509330
Depends on the boss, sometimes buffs are more useful, and other time debuffs.

But both used in conjunction are normally the best route to take.
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>>79509537
Oh yeah, another stipulation is that buffs can be better if the game has reinforcements or multiple waves of enemies
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>>79509432
I wish it was fully translated, Raidou and Narumi are both cute as hell in it.
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DDS-related question.
When someone dies in the Junkyard and is reincarnated in a new body,do they retain their Junkyard memories as well as their real world memories?
It's something that I don't recall being mentioned in either the book or the games and it's been bugging me for a while now.
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>>79509973
I don't think they'd retain either, except as a vague "I sort of remember this happening" thing like happened with Gale.
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>>79510526
I might just need to pay more attention then. I know the cast touches on the cycle of reincarnation briefly when the rain stops, but that's all I can recall.
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>>79509973
They just retain their karma
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lel

my first SMT game and I love it shame I'm coming to an end. Where should I go after this one?
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>>79511612
Nocturne or Strange Journey
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>>79511612
Nocturne or SJ
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>>79511612
check the starter guide image in the OP and go with whatever seems the most interesting
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>>79511612
Depending on what you love about it, a good number of games is a nice next step.
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>>79511517
Hang on, I thought their Karma was "reset" so to speak when they reincarnated in the Junkyard? Or am I misunderstanding?
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>>79511904
I don't know it's some Hindu shit
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>>79511612
DDS or Nocturne
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>>79512350
only three of those are me
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>>79512350
you are mom is a samefag
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>>79512569
so i was right

dipshit.
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>>79512569
>>79512585
Don't respond.
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>>79512569
>>79512585
>responding to shitposting
pls
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>>79512350 (You)
no u
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>>79512656
And what exactly did you hope to achieve by linking to a bunch of posts that weren't related to each other and calling samefag?
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>>79512818
don't reply to shitposters
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>>79512818
Replies.
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>>79512946
but then there'd never be replies on /smtg/
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>>79512736
to be a harlot she has small tits.
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>coordinate 136
Fuck, I forgot how big this place is
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>>79513163
I hope you didn't forget how big the karma temple is
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>>79513320
Hey, at least that's atmospheric
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>>79513320
Of course not silly, but that's the final dungeon so it has a right to be huge. I've always felt that coordinate 136 was the kind of dungeon you've got to set aside so you can do it all in one go, though.
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There's no videos showing the various demon sound effects from nocturne on youtube are there? Because the sound design in this game is sometimes straight up hilarious.
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>>79513831
At least Demifiend's default attack sound is satisfying as hell.
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>>79513831
Pastebin unless it got deleted
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>>79514094

Holy shit I'm so glad this is the kind of thing that there's apparently been desire for before.
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>>79513831
The funniest sounds are Atropos' casting sound, the death sound for the things with 4 hands that are just flying circles, and the Naga death cry.

My fucking god, the Naga death cry.
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>>79514659
They aren't as bad as some of the DDS sounds, like Barong/Nue sounding like seals.
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>>79515035
Wait, Nue is a seagull. That's even weirder.
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>>79513831
i like the laugh of the archangel.
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>>79514094
>>79514324

Nocturne Sounds (updated 10/08/12)
http://www.mediafire.com/?bnqjag3qv6o23xa

YES!
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>>79515191

Yuzu's eighth day honestly seems lazily thrown together. The angels suddenly leave for... ??? reason? Literally not five minutes after they were about to crack down. It seems like they should have decided their plan earlier on. Then the shomonkai leader thinks he can just stand around telling you he's going to disband... he seems to not realize that he summoned a god of destruction. Belberith doesn't even say anything until the very end. And what were they doing there together that whole time? And honda shows up for literally no reason. They didn't do a good job of turning it into a new last level.
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>>79515534
Enjoy those dekaja/dekunda sounds.
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>mfw fiercebattlevocals10 is "your one thousand years have expired"
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>>79516469
>ThorAttack1

Some of these are fucking great.
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>>79516301
>tfw the sound of bubbles popping will forever elicit a sinking feeling in my stomach thanks to SMT
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is it wrong of me to think that some of these would make great text message notifications or ring tones?
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>>79517006
I might set the Naga death cry to my text noise.
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What is your name?
Are you a boy or a girl?
Who would you rather have as a starter demon?
Pixie (Lightning)
Jack Frost (Ice)
Pyro Jack (Fire)
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>>79517006
LISTENTOME!
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>>79517006
>>79517035
>not using Pixie's moaning as your ring tone
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>>79517287
>being a boring fag
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>>79517148
I kind of want to do a silly SMT Pokemon rom hack. It'd be just replacing the Pokemon sprites with demons/changing the names, stats, and movesets. Maybe changing the dialogue and the maps. It'd be a fun little project.
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>>79517367
>not being the creepy guy
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>>79517465
pokemon romhacking is actually pretty tough
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>>79517465
Then get on it, mate.
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>>79517504
I already can into Pokemon romhacking. I can at least do the stuff that I mentioned.
>>79517536
I really should. I have a shit load of free time.
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>>79517148
>you will never eat steven ass
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>>79517504
Making a pokemon game with RPG Maker XP's Pokemon Essentials pack is pretty easy.
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>>79515948
The Shomonkai leader got what he wanted in Yuzu's ending. God left mankind so he no longer needed Belberith.

They did what he thought was impossible and got mankind to leave without empowering a demon to lead the fight.

The government itself told the Angels they were no longer going to take their shit, so they left since there's no point in staying. Unlike in IV or I where they have the power in countries to nuke the world, mankind outright rejects him.

Plus God doesn't have to worry about some King of Bel hunting him down to kill him in that route.
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>>79517465
Do it

replace Red in Mt. Silver with the Demi-fiend
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>>79517794
I'd probably do it with a GBA era game. Emerald or FR/LG are likely contenders.

I'd also probably want to edit over demon sprites so they match Pokemon's sprite style.
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>>79518240
use the demikids sprites if you have to, they fit a similar style
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How does KMT compare to SMT1 and 2?

Is the gameplay less broken, i.e. does it have more depth than spamming autobattle nerve bullets?
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>>79518321
They're too big. Thing is, GBA-era Pokemon sprites were limited to 64x64. Back sprites are also an issue.
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>>79518240
>>79518321
Here's something interesting, Kaneko colored all the sprites in Devil Children Black/Red/White Book.
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>>79518371
yes
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>>79518574
Wait, really?
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>>79518645
Yup. The credits are in english in Red/Black.
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someone make a new thread please
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So are you supposed to grind like crazy to get enough macca in MT1? Money's real tight so far.
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>>79518756
I will
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