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Should we except with this new dlc the usual "wear the four dlc masks in a specific heist" achievement type or not this time ?
There should be a Simon mask reward that you'd get after initiating 100 drills.
>you will never make friends with /pdg/ and happily play video games with them
You will never battle a dozer and 5 shields, turn around and see your teammates making use of your cover, or kill twice as many cops as you. You'll turn around to screaming babies.
Xth for Pedro.
Xth for Based Locomotive.
Xth for R93.
Shoot the fucking snipers. Do not try to tank sniper shots. Do not ignore snipers. Do not revive people being watched by snipers.
Cable Guy is a waste of points. If you need more cable ties, buy the asset.
If you are the dedicated saw guy, Berserker is not optional. Considerably less ammo used in exchange for one charge of a medkit while opening boxes twice as fast as normal. Invaluable.
All Infamy-tiers attained after August, 2014 are invalidated. Do not expect infamied people to be skillful or knowledgeable. Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.
Masterforcers are our brothers in arms. Fellow techforcers should treat all masterforcers with respect and camaraderie.
Do not tolerate anime. Report all weeb shitposting to your local janitor. Remember, he polices this general and he does it for free.
HoxHUD is literally literally a cheat. It's a crutch for shit players policed by a nazi group of script-thieves. Oh you want HoxHUD? Better join our group and never leave it.
Slay all civilians. With recent changes to money gain, there is no reason not to kill civilians. They are a detriment to the heist, especially in stealth, and should be removed.
>get hurt to 1% hp with beserker ace
>mfw kps kills grey cops with 2 bullets anywhere
>Four Stores DW
>big safe in the back of the china store
>van spawns in the alley behind the store
>only kill one guard and one civilian
>I was in casing mode for the entire fucking heist
That was some incredible luck.
would invite you to make seven bags of meth on Rats Day one.
What's the point of sawing it off if you can't hold it with one hand?
Also why do they call the attachments pirate names?
Maybe if you could get ammo that was basically a massive shotgun charge like a blunderbuss or something
>massive shotgun charge like a blunderbuss or something
Just include a Beehive. It's a real thing you can get for 40mm grenade launchers. Basically, you stick it in there, and you can fire 10 .22 rounds at once.
> not using the microdick Mosconi with HE shells.
Don't even get me started boy. Now put the goddamn .22 in the goddamn grenade launcher. The beehive has rifled barrels so you can actually hit something.
hey fucker... *teleports in from the shadows* i'm back... *teleports behind u and slices ur spine with deathnote the special edition red keyblade*
psh... *dons fedora and gives it a powerful tip*
never stood a chance, kid...
*not listening cuz ur dead*
*fucks your mom*
*makes you a little sister*
*divorces your mother and takes custody of your sister*
*eventually drives your mother to suicide*
*doesn't go to her funeral*
>People taking the GL40 on Shadow Raid or any stealth heists.
It just can't end well.
You crop a motherfucking attitude with me one more time, nigger, and you're all the way gone. Fuck you. I will kick you so hard in the arsehole you will taste my shoelaces. I will find where you live, and I will feed you to my fucking dog, you god damned nigger. Don't you ever say shit like that to me again. You think you're hard? Do you think you're hard?! Motherfucker! You ain't shit, you ain't shit! I could fucking execute you where you stand right now, I can make a phone call and kill you, don't you ever fucking talk to me like that again, you motherfucker. You ain't in charge of shit nigger, you're a terrible fucking leader, you need to keep fucking mouth shut for the rest of your god damned life. Not unless somebody tells you to open it so that they can put their cock in your mouth you worthless motherfucker. Yeah that's not the way you handle it when we still have zipties motherfucker, so you can go ahead and die in fires is what you can do, you dumb motherfucker.
Suggestion: change Carbon Blade Aced so that your saw becomes a secondary instead of a primary. There's basically no reason to take it right now and that would be a huge benefit.
>and that would be a huge benefit
I don't even like it as much as the other shotguns but the Locomotive would save you 12 points in that regard. As is it's still basically a more powerful Reinfield
>Using HE Shells on a silenced shotgun.
Tbh, this one is kinda fun.
hjow do you guys play this game its so boring holy shit everything is put the drill here and wait, go here and wait, find this thing and wait, zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz I really want to enjoy it but its a snoozefest
You will never get everyone to agree with you. Acceptance is individual not community. Of course the community is going to denounce this dlc, its what we do. Its annoying to pay 5 bucks for a "GUN PACK".
I'm not the only one who finds her videos completely fucking obvious pandering to phat ass fetishists, right? She has to know the vast majority of her viewers are middle aged men masturbating to it
>Ask crew member why you are bring the grenade launcher into shadow raid.
>"Don't worry baby, it won't accidentally go off."
Is that a phat ass? I just thought she was a fat person
>>Not playing it because you need something to grind.
No, thats what I use your mom for.
Like a 4th of the tree is sentry skills, which very situational
Other 4th is c4 skills, which besides shaped charges is also super situational.
Then drills which again are sitautional, and the worst drill upgrade costs 4/8.
Improved crafting a shit, the rifle skills are really meh. Mag plus is pretty silly and also situational. Headshot bonus is great, but not a skill really.
Basically the only above all great skill it has is bulletproof, and even that isn't really worth acing.
Oh the huge manatee
Tech is pretty blah you need to pair it with something. I mean what do you want me to say? Of course overkill needs to rebalance the tech tree. They should look out and iron out just about all the trees at this point maybe besides enforcer.
I always had a deep seated fear that this is what happened on the other side of a glory hole
I swear to god if I ever do piss some where slummy enough to have one I'll save the piss for that banshee's throat
>Headshot bonus is great, but not a skill really.
>I'm just going to arbitrarily disregard this useful skill because it's a tier bonus
>Then drills which again are sitautional
60% of the game is drilling stuff.
I laugh when I hear people bitching about drills. Drilling is love. Drilling is life. Drill all day everyday. Go watch the movie Dr. StrangeDrill or how I learned to stop worrying and love the Drill.
>base 25 damage
>+3 for full auto
>+10 for Funnel of Fun Nozzle
>+~1-2 for Enforcer tier 5
>+~2-3 hopefully for unique attachment (long/ short barrel, etc.)
>40+ damage with Technician tier 4
>1,000 rate of fire
It's like getting a Mark 10 or SpecOps with better ammo
or getting two Mart 10/ SpecOps, a dream come true
How many of you actually going to buy the DLC right when it comes out? Not sure if I want to or just wait for a sale. It's less than an hours day of work for me but still I'm a cheap bastard
>enforcer tier 5
Literally doesn't matter. that +2 is just 1.875 rounded up; and 38 damage is actually 27.5 rounded up. Unless the weapon+mods can get to 40 damage on its own its useless.
I'm more of the wait and see type. I'd rather research and see if the things worth getting at retail. I mean the shotgun pack was terrible but at least the guns in this one seem interesting enough.
>tfw 11th bag and and you hop into the sewers too hard one too many times
I expected this to be shit when I made it but after actually using it in a few stealth heists I really like it. I still have my CAR-4 if I want to go full blown sneaky but I can pair this with a more accurate silenced pistol and still retain around 6 concealment.
I mean, CAR-4/silenced Loco is still better since that puts me at 3, but I just want some diversity at this point.
Your taste in dick-hardening material is fucking shit m8. There's a reason this girl had to do her shoot in the shower; if she went much longer without water she'd die. Someone roll her back into the sea please.
Typical response. No I mean stop posting porn this board isn't for porn webms. You are looking for /gif/. If anyone of us wanted that we'd go there. I know its kind of hard to understand what with all the inbreeding you have been through but just try to comprehend what I just said. Thanks in advance.
Even if it's decent, some people might see it as a little weak. You should drop your assault flashlight for cheap points. If you've bought/lua the armored transport dlc, you should take the Swedish K who can have 33 concealment instead of a pistol.
>go to uni
>still no gageass pack
Yes, It's been Thursday for 14 hours. This is unacceptable
I even have a cakeboy ready to buy it for me when it comes out
what are those new things on the pd2 stats profile
upvotes for teacher / teamwork / leader or?
I wanted to mod the Falcon Eagle for the typical "Failed stealth, Plan B" situation type. Since i pair it with a silenced Swedish K with 33 concealment, should i drop the Eagle's Extended magazine or not ?
Not that guy but
>can't have 3 detection with a 45 damage CAR-4
I can get to 3 using the Swedish K but the whole point of the pistol is the accuracy. I want something I can use safely if my target is in front of a window. I might remove the flashlight but it's nice on a few of the darker maps, and even on DW I never notice any difference between 3 and 6 concealment. Maybe that's just me being a shitter.
>unironically using the car4 as anything but a concealment stat stick
why don't you just use a spoon?
You can slaughter anything within 25m with that. And you pretty much pick up more bullets than you can fire so there is no reason to bitch about accuracy on a loud CAR-4.
If I'm not bringing a Thanatos, yes I bring my 50 damage CAR-4 with me on DW. I only bring the 45 damage stealth CAR-4 on forced loud days like Big Oil and when I don't trust pubs to not throw grenades while I'm stealthing. Like I said, I can slaughter practically anything that's not a Shield within range and I even do more damage to dozers than the Thanatos carriers. Lots of bullets, plenty of damage. It does plenty of work.
>people who bring sniper rifles to a heist and don't use them to kill shields
Both the Rattlesnake and the R93 can kill shields in two shots. The Thanatos can kill them in one. Fucking use them.
Because on babby difficulties you could drop damage to 40 with pretty much no consequences.
It's like devs saw breakpoints table and designed DW health for the purpose of fucking with it.
>Because on babby difficulties you could drop damage to 40 with pretty much no consequences.
You're not the first one to suggest it but there isn't really anything I can swap out for 40 damage.
>Join a Big Bank
>All stealth loadouts
>Host buys Poisoned Cake and nothing else
>Host runs into office
>After about 10 seconds game restarts
HaxHud shitter looking for camera glitch
>3 conceal with the bullet proof vest
>Join shadow raid
>Lowest conceal amoungst the pubs is 14
>They all ask me how the fuck my conceal is so low
The lowest level of the three pubs is II-64
I just...I just don't get it...
>Daily Reminder Overshill are bad at map design
>tiny ass bank in the middle of nowhere
>next to an empty convenience store and garage
>has a drive-thru window with nobody operating it
>that leads to a parking lot
>which leads to nowhere
>Equip the GL40 Grenade Launcher, the Locomotive 12G Shotgun and the Improved Combined Tactical Vest
>GL40 and Locomotive
>GL40 is a primary
Why didn't you stop it?
>The masks are just crossbreeds of heroes and villains
I can figure out the Hulk + Iron Man and the Green Goblin + Scarecrow one
But fucked if I know the combinations of the other two.
Achievements are out.
>Kill 25 Bulldozers with the G3
>Kill at least 4 enemies with one GL40 shot
>Kill 10 Cloakers with the Gecko 762
>Kill 200 enemies with the Clarion
>Beat Watchdogs while your crew wears one assault pack mask each
>Equip the Loco, GL40, and ICTV
>Own one of every Gage Assault Pack weapon
>Kill 25 enemies at 40 metres or more using the GL40
>Kill a jumping Cloaker with the GL40
>Kill 25 thugs with the Ding Dong melee weapon
Q: Where's the Old Hoxton Breakout!?
A: Our level designers are working on it. It'll come when it's ready.
Q: When is this released?
A: Later today! We'll do another announcement when it's live.
Do they mean The Heist or the DLC with guns?
>More achievements consisting of killing x ammount of enemies
None of the achievements are about snipers.
Speaking of which, I've been shot by the cunts multiple times before they've even got their lasers out. They're still crouch walking into position.
This maddens me.
>People with ECM and judge are going to play with you
Because if it's available for pre-order, then that means Overkill finished development days before today (Thursday) and have it immediately available for download.
I'm still giving it a 50/50 chance that they'll delay the launch because they aren't done yet.
If you're going to be a good goy, at least stop shilling so hard.
You know what? I think they fucked up the focus too much in PD2. PDTH was all about plan B: each and every heist it had "went wrong", combat was the focus, it was polished and fun.
PD2 on the other hand is now "propah hoist geim m8" and can't really choose whether it's combat focused, penalizes you for engaging in combat, stealth-focused or whatever, and the last thing it feels like is a "heist game".
It's too much of job, most missions are pretty much a routine (get to X via drills/C4/lockpicking and get X to a truck) and much less like a living, chaotic heist.
They're trying to make it both a stealth game and a horde mode shooter, which makes both the stealth mechanics and the loud mechanics feel gimmicky and tacked on.
In PD:TH, every heist was loud, so the focus and polish was on the combat. In Payday 2, if the stealth fails, the only option is to restart the heist and kill the pacing. Everyone's wearing suits and carrying crap-damage silenced weapons, so there's no way they can hold off the tsunami of cops heading their way.
My complaint is the loss of focus. It's not that I'm against more options to run heists, but if they're not fun and damage the feeling of the heist? Stealth is tedious, skill-based "world interaction" sucks balls because it radically limits the heist designers and combat is deeply gimped because it's presented as "you failed everything else, horde shooter now" thing.
>In Payday 2, if the stealth fails, the only option is to restart the heist and kill the pacing. Everyone's wearing suits and carrying crap-damage silenced weapons, so there's no way they can hold off the tsunami of cops heading their way.
This kills the bait.
>if the stealth fails, the only option is to restart the heist and kill the pacing. Everyone's wearing suits and carrying crap-damage silenced weapons
Let me guess, in your team everyone has a double-silenced loadout and carries an ECM? Fucking christ.
>Playing DW Erection Day
>Carrying my manapult and all-purpose stealth\combat pistol
>Wearing suit cus 2fast and viable for DW
>Fuck up stealth halfway into it, not enough machines hacked
>THAT'S IT IT'S LOUD MAYOR SCHWARZ THIS IS POLITICS
>Using my ECMs to stun cops, but it is a long wait for the last machine to finish
>Okay I'm done time to go home
>No wait, 5 minute computer hack
>No biggie, just shoot saw dozers with sig 40 like nobody's business
>5 minutes over
>Time to get the gold!
>No gold cus loud
>40% payout, no stealth bonus, tired from playing DW
>I'm glad I didn't just throw myself off the spiral staircase, because playing stealth maps on loud with nerfed rewards is really fun
>I wouldn't want faggots on the internet to tell me trying to have fun playing the map as intended makes me a double faggot
>I thought the beta was going public with the DLC
Why would it? There is no connection between the increased payouts and spotter mines with the kike on wheels DLC.
It's their way of bribing impatient idiots and cheaters complaining about the grind to stay long enough to buy one or two more DLCs.
The amount of dark'n'edgy masks is nearing critical levels.
How about a simple balaklava or a gas mask?
>dark and edgy
Do you even know what that word means
to be fair we take hostages, and the FBI has a hostage rescue team dedicated to take out criminals like us
Get ready for GL40 shitters eating up all the ammo bags.
Because Galil-chan is anime
assault kit gives it +20 ammo
>Overkill going toughguy on mod users
If shadow map mod ever stops working, I will tear those fuckers a new one for literally making their game unplayable. Since it's obvious by now they don't plan to implement those features themselves. Cunts.
I don't know exactly what it does, but not doing so causes steam to re-download the game files in an attempt to "validate" (i.e. replace the bundle files that have been modded) them
Exit steam and do it
afaik, they should be
FAMAS costs 500k
Galil costs 650k
G3 costs 830k
GL40 costs 830k
Weapon butt, fists, money bundle and knuckle dusters have max (30) concealment, bat has 21
Knives have 29 conceal, save for the small one (berger?) which has 30 (max)
can't check other melees
Don't think so; the only LUA I have in the game files is the dlc unlocker and it keeps crashing on launch. I suspect it's either the lua file itself, or the .dll files and hook. Maybe all of them, who knows
You fucking what m8?
WEAPON CONCEALMENT LIST:
350K Brass Knuckles-30
Berger combat knife-30
New stock m308 damage is 95. 40 Ammo but I'm not sure if that's a change.
You heard it go- guys!
Overkill truly outdid themselves with this DLC. Remember to buy one for your friends as well, we can't have them miss out on the finest wares from I.W.I.
I can't make jeethree look like this so she's shit
With so many DMR/Sniper mods, why can't we have a sniper scope on rifles?
Why must life be so suffering.
Cutiepie with fabulous stock and shortest barrel, 16 acc and 45 damage. Very nice.
New Eagle, uninteresting. Sniper barrel makes it a contender for combat rifle with m308. The m308 is better. The m308 is not as good as the rattlesnake.
The deeps are off the chart. 45 damage, 14 acc. Churns through ammo like a motherfucker though.
Cherry on top GL:
Holy fuck it sucks dick.
New maps? Oi vey!
Far too much hard work for us accomplished game developers
Just give the gentiles some overpriced DLC to satisfy them, with the promise of more Quality Content™ to come!
Example: Suit (30), Mosconi (27), Loco w/ Sup (29)
Loadout concealment total of 86, thus, 7 detection.
How do melee weapons fit into that calculation?
If you add 30 concealment from the melee slot, for 116 concealment, what is the detection value at then? Still 7?
Anyone else understand?
Yea. In P:TH the GL40 was viable since you had two other weapons, you had an actual ammo supply for it, and it excelled at fucking up bulldozers. Looking at the stats now, it's shit.
Eh, it lacks in versatility. More like the new M16 only with more ammo. It's definitively a contender though. Take it with you to DW! Or on OVK! While studying! Or when on the go!
Captcha: Du general
Oh wow. There's lazy. And then there's this shit.
Oh wow. Sasuga, Overjew.
>"We won't balance the game because I know you guys prefer new content over tweaking the shit you're already accustomed to."
>"Gives" us more unbalanced content.
>It's terribly made.
Why must I like this game?
Ah, we zhee you do not like ze "Kill X while wearing Y with weapon Zed"? You prefer more amuzing achiefments for your col-ection like ze "knock" achiefment? You want zu accomplish zings just onze?
Zat is too bad...
>Kill 50 Shields using any shotgun and slug ammo. Unlocks the Collapsed Stock for the M1014 shotgun.
>50 = just once
u wot m8
I know you're talking about the Rats achievement.
OJ Simpson's or what's his face.
The scope is fine, that's where it sits IRL believe it or not, but the firebreather. Come on. This happens in every gun, but some are more noticeable than others. The problem is that they don't tweak the gun model for the mods. They just add the mods on top of the gun. Look at the AK with firebreather down the barrel for example.
You know what I think would be neat?
I'm going to tell you what I think would be neat.
If bulldozers did their stun animation when hit in the face by a melee weapon with enough knockdown.
It'd make melee more viable, make people less dependent on HE and snipers, and would be !!FUN!!
>remove shockproof and improved crafting because who the fuck uses these
>move upper tier skills in their respective columns down one tier
>optional: remove silent drilling or combine basic with ace drill sergeant
>buff sentries or combine/buff sentry skills so at least one single fuck will be given between the entire community
>remove crafting tier bonuses, make decent stability/headshot/accuracy bonuses
>put skills in those voids that will give people an actual incentive to spec into tech besides c4 and bulletproof for techforcers
Is it really this hard to make tech not a fucking void for skillpoints
>ghost gain a ability to survive cloacker's kick because mah doge
would be c00l
BLUNT FORCE IMPACT TRAUMA KILLING MECHANICS CONFIRMED.
>that guy who doesn't throw grenades into the van at the end of a heist