/wtg/ - War Thunder General

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>>78396451
>Ships Edition

This pleases me

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Second for gaijin logic.

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What planes are getting FM changes in 1.43?

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>>78396313
>I think the first step toward naval forces is those extended Missions gaijin is promising. You know, where the mission can last hours with people coming and leaving.

If that's whats required in order for us few dedicated naval fags to have our dream near-autist levels of WWII naval gunnery and gameplay well then I'm all for it.

Now that I think about it, Arcade naval might be more so something like Battlestations Duel mode where you pit a certain class of ship against each other and duke it out for points and control of a map I suppose.

Unrealistic but it would make it fun and less time consuming for others as well.

Destroyer vs. Destroyer, Cruiser vs. Cruiser all those made for some good fun chaotic rounds in BSP

>tfw installing Nazi camos for all my burger and bong fighters

Nazi camos are just superior, man

>most ships travel at around 45km/h
>the average WT map is 64x64km.

oh boy get ready to sail for hours and shoot people that you can't even see

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anime~!

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Post aesthetically pleasing ships. I've always had a soft spot for Dido Class Cruisers.

>>78397281
>implying they won't make 5x5 km maps for ships so arcade babbys get to shoot at everyone and see lodsa splosions and shit

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>>78397041
All WWII Royal Navy warships look aesthetically pleasing to me, its why I'm so hype that Gaijin is giving us naval forces.

These mighty vessels will sail once more.

>>78397513

>Royal Navy
>before 2020

>>78397434
the smallest naval map is the AB version of Peleliu (15x15km), that's still quite a lot of sailing.

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>>78397427
Truly the last great era of British naval design.

Modern warships are effective but fugly.

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>>78397427

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>this beautiful ship will never be in War Thunder
Isn't it sad?

>>78397130
FM changes are usually announced when the preliminary patch notes are posted

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>>78397427

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>>78397846
>>78398006
Sucks we might not have any pre-dreads or pre-modernization WWI ships but its better than nothing.

Although I never heard it mentioned anywhere how far back Gaijin will go with ships, so if we do get them, I will be excite

>>78398284
That lowest stern turret is so useless now.

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>tfw she is the only Tribal Class Destroyer left in existence

I can't think of any other ships apart from HMS Belfast, HMS Haida and USS Missouri that are still afloat.

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>tfw going to be ready for the iL28 before the "coming soon )))" patch
not pictured are two player kills, one f6f and one p39

American pilots, amirite?

>>78398358
That ship in >>78398006 is a dreadnought by the way. It's The Viribus Unitis.

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>>78398546
>I can't think of any other ships apart from HMS Belfast, HMS Haida and USS Missouri that are still afloat.

About 8 US Battleships including the Missouri.

Then a bunch more US ships and others-

http://www.hazegray.org/navhist/gun_ship.htm

The most recent addition is the Iowa, rusting away for years in Reserve Fleet Dock now turned into a museum.

>>78398604

What BR is the IL-28 going to be? Also will it have assraping defensive armament? I need to know if I will get free bomber kills in my Panther and Meteor since I can't kill Mig-15s and Canadairs inb4 the IL-28 is faster than me

I always have have split second of surprise remembering the FW190D-12 exists.

I bought the D-13 and then when you unlock the D-9 you can research the Ta 152.

Is there even a point in flying it now that it has the same BR as the TA 152?

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>>78398620
Didn't know that, thanks

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>>78398825
>8 US Battleships

Damn, I wish we kept more of our old warships afloat.

>tfw my city's namesake has been towed away to Turkey for scrap
>Seen action in the Falklands
>Argie surrender of South Georgia was signed on her
>Took part in every action of the war
>Despite protests we couldn't keep her in dock as a museum to our city's massive naval heritage

Fucking bullshit, all she needed was a bit of a clean up.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-28864108

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>the Bundesmarine had a training cruiser
>smallest German cruiser commissioned since 1915

>>78396451

new to this game and the ui is very confusing, quick question, what should I be spending my coins and on first ?

>>78399594
Britain is literally bankrupt though, how could they possibly maintain it?

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I wonder if we are going to be able to name our ships.

On the kill feed and player list will it show

player (Queen Elizabeth-class)

or player H.M.S. Warspite (Queen Elizabeth-class)

Obviously more of a curiosity with Battleships and Battlecruisers since there were so few of them, for Destroyers and the like you won't be seeing many named duplicates but you certainly will with Battleships.

But since there are so few Battleships I think they're just going to go by configuration and name so you'll be seeing-

player HMS Warspite (BB)
player 2 HMS Warspite (BB)
player 3 HMS Warspite (BB)
player 4 HMS Sovereign (BB)
player 5 HMS Belfast (BB)
player 6 HMS Dicks (DE)

Or what have you

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>>78398872
IL-28 should be going 800-900km/h and it has the 2x 23mm rear guns, 2x forward firing and 3000kg bomb load. I'd say 8.3 BR.

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>>78399594
Poor Brits have a terrible record of treating their ships with respect and honor post-war.

Would have been nice if a few of these mighty vessels like Warspite were kept afterwards, as by today they would serve as poignant reminders of the strength and reach of the British Naval Empire.

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>>78399905
was that style of RATO really effective and widespread, or are they just using the same model for every RATO using plane

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BS Pacific had the best sountrack for naval combat.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec4gr3JEwVA

>>78399831
>HMS Belfast (BB)
>(BB)

Doh, (CL)*

>>78399905
>800-900km/h and it has the 2x 23mm rear guns

Well that doesn't look like free kills for a F9F ;_;

>>78399806
Plymouth city council put a bid in to buy her and bring her down to Plymouth but the people who had it under their legal care said we didn't have anywhere to berth her.

>Biggest naval base in Western Europe
>South Yard is never used anymore
>No room

They just wanted to sell her for scrap.

>>78400181
I hated the music for some reason, preferred just the sound of ships, gunfire, radio and the sea.

>>78400058
>respect and honor

It's a fucking ship. A floating chunk of metal. I get the whole "keeping it as a museum and memorial and stuff" thing, but come on.

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>>78398825
>going through list of Kriegsmarine ships
>scrapped
>used as torpedo target post war
>destroyed in nuke testing
>scrapped
>scrapped
>scrapped

>mfw

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>>78399905
>jet bomber
>tail gunner

uuuuuu

Russkies, what teh fuck

>>78399905
8.3 too high((

7.3 sound much better))

>>78399905
muh dick

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>>78400495
I'll show you a chunk of metal

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(´???´)

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>>78400975
Poor nips, they really loved their Yamato.

I hate how instead of keeping them as war trophies, we nuked the fuck out of the majority German and Japanese battleships and cruisers.

>>78400923

Woo look at all dem guns and splosions

What does this have to do honor and respect? It's still an inanimate chunk of metal. You won't hurt its feelings or anything by getting rid of it when it's of no use anymore.

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>>78401275
Don't insult my waifu like that

oh god I can't even say that without feeling disgusted

fuck kancolle too

>>78400667
B-52 tailgunners shot down two MiGs in Vietnam.

Are we going to get the IL-28 version that has 12 rocketpod pylons?

>>78401275
Yeah fuck history, we live in the present.

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>>78401643
B-52's had tail gunners?

>>78401489

I'd fuck most Kancolles, yes.

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>>78401275
That inanimate chunk of metal is a piece of history you dunce.

Why do you think we still keep the USS Olympia and still have the USS Constitution as an active commissioned US Navy vessel.

To preserve history.

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>>78402023
I would too
I like the art because they're attractive that's about it

>>78401804
>>78402126

See
>>78400495

Preserving it is good. I agree with that. But talking about honor and respect? That's just stupid.

>>78400342
Well yeah, Britain is literally bankrupt. They'll take anything to pad the statistics.

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Guess the ship.

>>78401831
They did back when fighters still shot down bombers with guns 40 years ago.

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>>78402372
To respect and honor those who sailed on her, as well as her legacy as a vessel under war.

Sailors get really attached to their ships in ways that pilots and tank drivers might not even.

For months on end that ship is your only source of anything around the endless vast sea that stretches out in all directions.

>>78402558
What's the name of this seamen demon?

>>78402558

Who's this Barnacle Backpack?

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>>78402558
Why that's good ol' USS Concrete

>>78402434
The money of private companies has nothing to do with the financial state of the UK. The state hasn't been in possession of HMS Plymouth ever since she was decommissioned in 1988.

>Economy is projected to grow again
>Literally bankrupt

I'd say we're doing just fine.

>>78403270

you're doing better than the rest of europe at least

gl germany in your shitstorm once the EU falls apart

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>>78402558
>Monitor

HMS Terror/Erebus when?

>>78403270

At least you're not Spain ;_;

>>78403487
But anon, Germany are the EU.

Merkelreich when?

>>78403735
>Angela "muh austerity" Merkel
>Reich

Nein.

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>>78403801
T'is all a ruse. She is waiting until the time is right then she will seize power. Nigel will be powerless to stop the German war machine.

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>>78403801
Just wait till she gets pissed

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>>78404038
>>78404053
Please do surprise us, anything is better than whimpering away in an increasingly multiculti shithole

Give us the great resolve again oh Deutschland.

>>78404053
>The British bird distancing itself from the rest

Always makes me chuckle.

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>le minmay animay maymay

looks like shit but I learned a lot so next time I'll be able to actually put effort into the skin instead of fighting with the GIMP

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Post some recommended reading

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>>78404401

>tfw no bf to lovingly maintenance and take on a nice date over a temperate forest

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>The SS Stephen Hopkins was a United States Merchant Marine Liberty ship that served in World War II. She was the first and last US merchant vessel to sink a German surface combatant during the war.

>due to fog, Hopkins and the German commerce raider (with tender) were only two miles apart when they first spotted each other
>refused to surrender
>outgunned but a continuous stream of volunteers kept manning the single 4 inch gun
>after a brief but fierce battle (1 hour), both ships were reduced to wrecks
>Hopkins sank and the German ship was scuttled two hours later
>most of the crew of the Hopkins died (45) in the fight and the survivors (15) drifted in a lifeboat until they reached the shores of Brazil - one month later

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>>78405075
>outgunned but a continuous stream of volunteers kept manning the single 4 inch gun

Jesus christ, surrender never even entered their thoughts.

So much damn courage and selfless sacrifice in WWII

>>78405804
Fuck those guys, they're part of the past. They no longer have a purpose and we should put them in the trash where they belong.

>>78405804

the internet will make world war 3 interesting

>tfw you'll never get to see hitler shitpost all day on facebook and twitter while making nazi party ads and viruses

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What the fuck is wrong with you

What's with all those ships

Post planes, faggots

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>>78405914
But of course, how silly of my to remark upon the past.

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>>78406002
I'll post both, I post tanks too.

Victor was a beauty.

Shame it can never fly again.

Any flight sim that has it?

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>>78405804
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Trindade

This is also awesome

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hawlp

FUCKING SHIPS FUCK OFF YOU HAVE NO PLACE IN THIS GAME YET

http://steamcommunity.com/id/spookybro
add on steam

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pomf =3

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>>78406645
She'll be alright

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>Ships

>>78406754
>only games I play these days are War Thunder and Skyrim
>Elder Scrolls 6 will likely come out around 2017
>War Thunder ships look like they're going to be released around the same time

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>>78406910
>planes

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>>78407131
>Tanks

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>>78407253
>ground

ships will never make it into the game

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>tfw balance and map design are so terrible right now in tonks I'm seriously reinstalling WoT

>>78407419
Q2 2015

>>78407560
small family company, only one at a time ((

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>>78406326
>Coincidentally, the Cap Trafalgar, also intended for use against enemy merchant fleets, had been altered to resemble the Carmania;[3] some accounts wrongly claimed that both ships were disguised as each other.[

>Both the British and German commanders believed that in order to obtain a decisive victory, they would need more space to maneuver their ships. They steamed several miles into open sea before turning into each other and commencing hostilities.

>After receiving Cap Trafalgar's distress call, the SMS Kronprinz Wilhelm arrived near the battle scene. Fearing a British attack, assuming the Cap Trafalgar had already been sunk, and not knowing the poor condition of Carmania, she turned around and steamed away.

Haha Jesus christ, incredible.

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i thought they were backing away from the third reich style of moderation but i guess not

what's the point of a forum if you cant shittalk other players?

>>78407651
gayjew shill pls stop the misinformation campaign

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>>78407609
>reinstalling WoT
>ever

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>The repair ship USS Mindanao. On Nov 11, 1944 the ammunition ship Mount Hood exploded while anchored at Seeadler Harbor, Manus. The Mindanao was 350 yards away and suffered heavy damage.

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>tfw balloon

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>>78407763
Nice crew you have there

>Experienced Gunners 2/1,980
>Upgrade Qualification to Expert 93859272 Lions

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>>78408019
Ammunition ship explosions are no joke

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>>78405914

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>ground planes
>sea boats

>>78407253
>typhoon
>strafing the enemy and not allied troops
huehuehue

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Just what the hell is going on

>>78407609
No matter how poor the WT balance is, there's no way it can be worse than WoT. You really shouldn't put yourself through that.

>>78409301
>WT balance better than WoT
nice joke

>>78409145
holy shit brits
"8 June, a group of RAF Hawker Typhoons attacked the 175th Infantry Regiment, 29th U.S. Infantry Division on the Isigny Highway, France, causing 24 casualties.[38]"

"7 August, a RAF Hawker Typhoon strafed a squad from 'F' Company/US 120th Infantry Regiment, near Hill 314, France, killing two men.[41] Around noon on the same day, RAF Hawker Typhoon of the 2TAF was called in to assist the US 823rd Tank Destroyer Battalion in stopping an attack by the 2nd SS Panzer Division between Sourdeval and Mortain but instead fired its rockets at two US 3-inch guns near L'Abbaye Blanche, killing one man and wounding several others even after the yellow smoke (which was to identify friendlies) was put out. Two hours later, an RAF Typhoon shot up the Service Company of the 120th Infantry Regiment, US 30th Division, causing several casualties, including Major James Bynum who was killed near Mortain. The officer who replaced him was strafed by another Typhoon a few minutes later and seriously wounded. Around the same time, a Hawker Typhoon attacked the Cannon Company of 120th Infantry Regiment, US 30th Division, near Mortain, killing 15 men.[41] An hour later, RAF Typhoons strafed 'B' Company/US 120th Infantry Regiment on Hill 285, killing a driver of a weapons carrier.[42]"

more to come

Why does the Hellcat sound so sex, that purring noise, its very nice.

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>>78409581
"8 August, near Mortain, France, RAF Hawker Typhoons attacked two Sherman tanks of 'C' Company, US 743rd Tank Battalion with rockets, killing 5 tank crewmen and wounding 10 soldiers. Later that day, two Shermans from 'A' Company, US 743rd Tank Battalion were destroyed and set ablaze by RAF Typhoons near Mortain. One tank crewman was killed and 12 others wounded.[45]
9 August, a RAF Hawker Typhoon strafed units of the British Columbia Regiment and the Algonquin Regiment, 4th Canadian Armoured Division, near Quesnay Wood during Operation Totalize, causing several casualties. Later that day, the same units were mistakenly fired upon by tanks and artillery of the 1st Polish Armoured Division, resulting in more casualties.
12 August, RAF Hawker Typhoons fired rockets at Shermans of 'A' Company, US 743rd Tank Battalion, near Mortain, France, causing damage to one tank and badly injuring 2 tank crewmen.[46]
13 August, 12 British soldiers of 'B' Company, 4th Wiltshires, 43rd Wessex Division, were killed and 25 others wounded when they were hit by rockets and machine gun attacks by RAF Typhoons near La Villette, Calvados, France.[47]"

>>78409581
>>78409779
well if watching battle of britain taught me anything, its that the RAF was completely incompetent at everything

>>78409779
not even ships where safe
"On 27 August, a minesweeping flotilla of Royal Navy ships came under fire. At about noon of the 27th, HMS Britomart, Salamander, Hussar and Jason came under rocket and cannon attacks by Hawker Typhoons of No. 263 Squadron RAF and No. 266 Squadron RAF. HMS Britomart and HMS Hussar took direct hits and were sunk. HMS Salamander had her stern blown off and sustained heavy damage. HMS Jason was raked by machine gun fire, killing and wounding several of her crew. Two of the accompanying trawlers were also hit. The total loss of life was 117 sailors killed and 153 wounded. The attack had continued despite the attempts by the ships to signal that they were friendly and radio requests by the commander of the aircraft for clarification of his target. In the aftermath the surviving sailors were told to keep quiet about the attack. "

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>>78409959
>incompetent at everything

I defy you to find anyone who was as good at rendering German cities to ashes as Bomber Command.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_off_Samar

DESTROYER ESCORTS OP PLS NERF

THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE GAIJIN

THIS IS WORSE THAN SPETZNAS

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>tfw your first flight in a Hellcat and you down a Spitfire

boy you fellas weren't kidding about those six fifties

>>78409581
>>78409779
>>78409963


lol

what the fuck brits

>27 June – a group of RAF Vickers Wellingtons bombed the units of 4th County of London Yeomanry (Sharpshooters), British 7th Armoured Division and the British 3rd Hussars during a two-hour raid near Mersa Matruh, Egypt, killing over 359 troops and wounding 560. The aftermath of RAF raids at this time were also seen by the Germans: "... The RAF had bombed their own troops, and with tracer flying in all directions, German units fired on each other. At 0500 hours next morning 28 June, I drove up to the breakout area where we had spent such a disturbed night. There we found a number of lorries filled with the mangled corpses of New Zealanders who had been killed by the British bombs

>BR in a F-86 absolutely HAS to steal my bot kill
>"I set him on fire"

Motherfucker I set him on fire and critted his wing, he was clearly going down and you sprayed him merely seconds before he crashed

If I hadn't gotten 2 other kills I'd be mad pissed right now. Getting kills as an F9F when every other plane in your team is Sabres feels so good.

>>78410623
Wow, you killed something with your undertiered ufo.

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>>78409581
>including Major James Bynum who was killed near Mortain. The officer who replaced him was strafed by another Typhoon a few minutes later and seriously wounded.
Oh god my sides

Typhoon pilots confirmed for ace teamkillers.

>>78410623

50cals are rape on wings when you hit the right spot
>P-51
>climb for a while, no one around
>dive
>spot several Spits and Tempests
>well fuck
>suicide run, target a Spitfire that either hasn't noticed me or is flying all low and slow for whatever reason
>open fire at about 300 m
>entire plane explodes in a ball of glorious fire as I zoom past it at 700 kph
>get rekked by the other enemies that were patrolling the area

Still, it felt damn good.

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>jets
>half of the team fucks off in a random direction, dooming us immediately

Did they nerf/unbreak the F9F-2? I remember this bad boy used to do like 860 kph in level flight at low altitude, but I just played a match with it and it had trouble breaking 780. And I'm sure it turns worse too.

>>78411394

Every time.
>teammates organize in three groups
>each of them flies away in different directions
>me against the whole team while every friendly is 25 kms away

I'd try to go with them but I ain't catching a bunch of Sabres with a F9F or a Sea Meteor.

>>78409581
>killing one man and wounding several others even after the yellow smoke (which was to identify friendlies) was put out.

>>78409779
>9 August, a RAF Hawker Typhoon strafed units of the British Columbia Regiment and the Algonquin Regiment, 4th Canadian Armoured Division, near Quesnay Wood during Operation Totalize, causing several casualties.
>Later that day, the same units were mistakenly fired upon by tanks and artillery of the 1st Polish Armoured Division, resulting in more casualties.

>>78409963
>The attack had continued despite the attempts by the ships to signal that they were friendly and radio requests by the commander of the aircraft for clarification of his target. In the aftermath the surviving sailors were told to keep quiet about the attack. "

>>78410661
> The RAF had bombed their own troops, and with tracer flying in all directions, German units fired on each other

Jesus fucking christ was the later part of WWII a giant fucking mess of friendly fire?

And I still remember the endless news coverage during the 2003 War when a US soldier shot another in a FF incident on the battlefield.

Yet I never heard about all these FF incidents till right fucking now, jesus I never even heard of the Tempest and Typhoons till War Thunder really.

Is the only reason that there are no Hurricane and Spitfire friendly fire incidents because those were only mainly used in the defense of Britain until phased out by the others for general use over Europe?

Is there some magical force of nature by which BRs stop being retarded when they play jets? Whenever I see BRs in my team flying props they tend to act slav levels of retarded, but with jets it's like they suddenly learn the concepts of teamwork, communication, situational awareness, etc

>>78411864

Yes, and spitfires and hurricanes were mostly just used for air supremacy, typhoons were nice for ground attack since their cannons would rip halftracks to shreds so they would constantly be on the watch for vehicles. It would be hard to identify a vague moving convoy or camouflaged blob in the woods at high altitude

there were a million A-10 incidents in the middle eastern wars for the same reason, even with modern FLIR and nice camera imaging CAS pilots fuck up all the time

>>78412341
I remember one incident where an attack helicopter pilot thought that a camera was a portable rocket projector and killed some reports and a whole bunch of civilians including a few children for good measure.

>>78411864
>go to war expecting a glorious and honorable death as a hero of your country and champions of freedom
>get teamkilled by some dumb bong who was high on tea or some shit

>>78412341
I never knew the friendly fire during the war was that fucking bad, and I though I had already read about all the secretive and little known events of the war like Exercise Tiger

>>78411864
In the 2003 war the US probably suffered more losses from friendly fire than actual combat with the enemy. It doesn't make great news though.

Then and now. My guess would be that the RAF wasn't alone in the number of friendly personnel and assets it destroyed.

It's one of those things about war that people always leave out of the stories because it makes everyone sound like a retard.

>>78412670
>Exercise Tiger

Man, getting killed by friendly fire before the actual battle starts is so damn sad

>>78412827
>It's one of those things about war that people always leave out of the stories because it makes everyone sound like a retard.

Makes the whole damn chaotic racket seem even more so chaotic and insane.

I wonder if there were more FF incident in WWI than WWII, certainly from gas attacks.

Developed from the An-2A for use as a Balloon interceptor to intercept reconnaissance balloons from, US intelligence assets, over-flying the USSR. The prototype was converted from a Kiev built An-2 (c/n 110347315) using the Turbo-charged Ash-62IR/TK of the 'An-6 Meteo' and a combined searchlight/gun turret mounted on top of the rear fuselage, which mounted either a single Gryazev-Shipunov GSh-23 23mm calibre twin-barrelled cannon or a single Afanas'yev A-12.7 12.7mm calibre heavy machine-gun.[1]
> Developed from the An-2A for use as a Balloon interceptor to intercept reconnaissance balloons from, US intelligence assets, over-flying the USSR.
>mounted either a single Gryazev-Shipunov GSh-23 23mm calibre twin-barrelled cannon or a single Afanas'yev A-12.7 12.7mm calibre heavy machine-gun.[1]
>mounted either a single Gryazev-Shipunov GSh-23 23mm calibre twin-barrelled cannon
>GSh-23 23mm calibre twin-barrelled cannon
>Rate of fire 3,400-3,600 rounds/min
Muzzle velocity 715 m/s (2,350 ft/s)
>1947

FUCKING
WHEN

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>>78410996


>watch your CO get fucking murdered by a group of typhoons, end up having to take charge of your entire battalion out of the blue while desperately screaming ceasefire on your shitty radio

>two hours later you hear planes and look up, hoping for a supply drop or perhaps a friendly patrol of P47's scanning the area

>that looming horror when the silhouette of a RAF typhoon comes out of the clouds guns blazing

>>78405075
drifted in a lifeboat until they reached the shores of Brazil - one month later

Fucking being in a lifeboat for one month.

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8/8 blog Antagonist. :^)

>>78413279
Now I can't wait for SB combined battles with Brits+US vs Germany. Gonna rocket my own tanks.

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>>78413583
Beats being in a life raft in shark infested waters.

After just beating back a force that outnumbered and outgunned you 10:1, 5inch:18inch, with you the only thing stopping a hundred million marines from being obliterated by naval bombardment.

Forced to crash land your plane into the ocean because the escort carrier you took off from is at the bottom of the sea.

Also those poor sailors from USS Indianapolis

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>>78415241
>hundred million

Meant hundred thousand*

>>78415446

NEVER FORGET THE HUNDRED MILLION

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>>78415668
rip

>inb4 venom is a premium plane

>>78415995
It just skin of Vampire)))))))

>>78412846
> and an Allied convoy positioning itself for the landing was attacked by E-boats of the German Navy (Kriegsmarine), resulting in the deaths of 946 American servicemen

>The incident was under the strictest secrecy at the time due to the impending invasion, and was only nominally reported afterward; as a result it has been called "forgotten".

Jeez thats fucked up

>End up having to fight up to 5 german planes over my airfield because burger teams are ass
>Critically damaged staying below 200m struggling to even stay in the air let alone avoid fire staying below 300km/h
>One crashes trying to dive on me
>One gets scratched by AAA and starts leaking fuel
>Eventually get shot down
Meanwhile if I so much as even look at enemy base AAA going 500km/h I get one shotted.

fucking RNG.

>>78415995

The day Gaijin adds premium jets is the day I will buy a nuclear bomb and nuke their headquarters.

>>78416605
Misogynist.

>>78416656
>killing worthless slavs
>misogynist

>>78416605
When can we nuke the Japs in game?

>>78416605
>>78416902
>still no B-29 in game
fucking gaijin

>>78417158
Why the fuck would you want that? Tu-4 is superior,

>>78417472
>half the bombload
>superior

>>78416902
>drop nuke
>all lawnmowers killed
>8 team kills
>get banned for team killing

It'd be worth it

>>78417472
But it won't benefit from bomber bias which is an exclusively american thing.

How do I get good with the Me410?
It's out-turned by other heavy fighters and nearly everything it faces is faster and accelerates better so trying to turn gets you killed and trying to run gets you killed slowly.
Not to mention there's always enemies above you.

inb4 git gud

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>>78417472
>not wanting B-29
>not wanting america bomber bias
>not wanting to survive getting hit by everything and drop a gorillion bombs on the enemy's shit

>>78418132
No I dont want that shit, bombers should not even be ingame.

>>78418201
The more you say that the more bomber they'll add

>>78418201
>bombers should not even be ingame
>"I can't play fly them or kill them, they shouldn't be in the game"

>>78418304
What are you trying to say? I have every bomber ingame unlocked, yet I hate them. All they do is ruin SB.

>>78418048
>Force single engine fighters into head ons
>Always jump into a mess of friendly and enemy fighters at low alt
>Try and retain as much of a heigh advantage as possible

Once you fly it enough you will dogfight fighters with ease. Air starts on some maps help a lot and once you get the B-6 R/3 you will be unstoppable.

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The Italian Littorio-class battleships were pretty sexy.

Here's a picture of the Roma. She never fired her guns in anger and was in service for a little over a year before she was sunk.

A tremendous failure, like the rest of the Italian war effort.

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>>78418201
did you design this game? no? then how do decide what should be in someone elses game and what shouldn't?

>>78416573
>burger pilots
Camping airfield is the scrubest strategy.

>>78419224
Holding "J" is what true aces do when they know they are at a disadvantage.

>>78419213
*how do you decide

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>Start grinding T4 planes during free premium
>Really enjoying it
>Premium ends
>Unless I have the perfect game my plane costs so much to repair I bleed lions on every loss
>Can no longer enjoy RB because I can't fly the plane I want to fly while grinding
>Try AB
>Hate it but never lose lions no matter what
>Forced to either play a different plane in RB or play AB with this plane
I hate this game.

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sup guys

>>78418624
italian ships are 10/10 looks and garbage everything else

just like everything italy produces

>>78419620
play SB

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Gaijin will never replace the current shit F-84 with the best F-84.

>>78420596
I don't see how that'll really change anything since repair costs are even higher and I have really bad eyesight

>>78419620
What really gets me is that you get nothing for participation.

>>78420841
You do though.

>>78420892
How so? Can you go into depth as what is considered participation?

>>78396980
Why is this acceptable?

>>78420778
You learn where the AI flies to soon enough and real players always follow. Shooting one of them down or blowing up a couple AAA recoup your costs.

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>>78420748
i know right? Moar jet plz

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>>78420178

Even better that she was sunk by the Germans, using radio controlled bombs fired from Do 217s.

They knew the Italians had signed an armistice agreement, and the Italian fleet was steaming towards Malta to surrender. They denied the Allies a significant prize.

>>78421054
If you join a game and fly around in a circle over over airfield and win you will get a few RP and a fair amount of SL. If you lose you get less RP and a few SL.
If you actually accomplish something useful like shooting at another plane or ground target you obviously also get stuff, it flashes on screen.
I don't know what more you want, how much RP do you think you should get for doing nothing useful?

>>78419213
Because those things have no place in the game and all they do is break the game. Bombers are not meant to be used as lone wolf gunships.

>>78421617
>wasting bombs destroying an enemy naval vessel years after losing the war on the seas
Classic nazi competence.

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>>78421617

Weren't battleships rather useless by world war 2? It seems to me that outside of bombardment they were too slow to really keep up in fleet engagements and too large a target/costly to morale for risking them in most operations. It seems to me that cruisers usually did most of the workload that battleships were built for, and were much more resilient against carrier attack by being smaller and faster.

at least that's what I get from playing WiTP:AA as japan, i'm too scared of sending my battleships out because american carriers are everywhere, fuck, go home waitu piggu

>>78422323
Yes, battleships were obsolete.

Didn't stop people from building them though.

>>78422323
You shouldn't use "it seems to me" so many times in quick succession, it makes it sound like you care about your own opinion just as much as the rest of us.

I'm sad to learn that WitP does not stand for War in the Pocket.

>>78422652

sorry, i'm tired and need to stop posting, fuck that post is awful

>>78422429

thanks, I guess they were probably more useful in the atlantic than the pacific

>>78422779
They weren't useful anywhere. Just huge bomb magnets.

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Swept-wing naval fighter when.

Ki-84 was pretty fucking big
>Ki 84
Length: 9.92 m (32 ft 7 in)
Wingspan: 11.238 m (36 ft 11 in)
>Bf 109
Length: 8.95 m (29 ft 7 in)
Wingspan: 9.925 m (32 ft 6 in)
P51
Length: 32 ft 3 in (9.83 m)
Wingspan: 37 ft 0 in (11.28 m)

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IL-40 when?

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>>78423398
IL-20 when?

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Oh fuck, I just bought the edelweiss emblem

>>78406906
>yfw this wasn't fatal damage
>yfw she was repaired and fought again

MURRICA

>>78423883
Well, the front and rear quarters of warships are usually inert

>>78424164
She lost turret #1 with the bow, that's the second turret.

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>>78422879
Say that to my face sailor.

>>78424860
that first on on the right row looks like he's 13

>>78425131
He was probably 17 and people were short back then.

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>>78425220
>people were short back then.

HA!

Every man in these photos is taller than the average Japanese soldier in WWII

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>>78424439
The section of the ship the first turret is mounted on is not critical. It should be able to float with either front or back ends removed

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>>78425565
>>78406906

Can't wait to see what sorta damage models the ships will have.

>>78425757
HP bars with "soft defense".

>>78422779
They were more useful in the Mediterranean and the pacific. only because of their ability to being heavy guns and provide shore bombardment. but even then of dubious benefit compared to an equivalent manpower and material being spent on airplanes and airmen or on land based artillery.

battleships were only safe to use when the battle was almost assuredly won

the atlantic was terrible for battleships. it was only submarines vs convoys. the Atlantic was all about escort carriers, air cover and small ships like destroyers, corvettes and light cruisers.

>>78425429
>that ship survived and is now a museum

Neat

How do I gut gud at Cannon Typhoon

>>78426016
you go fast

>I have shot down the same person 6 games in a row now
>He does the exact same thing every time
>He knows I'm coming to get him and knows I can outfly him

And yet he persists. Is this the reason for inflated BRs?

>>78426016
apparently you attack allied ground positions

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Haven't played my big gun Hayate outside that zengzhou event the other day, decided to queue up for RB. Got slavs, asked what we're fighting
Apparently we were fighting planes that dont exist
That being said I killed 2 slavs and Tetsuo, one gave me a good deflection shot on his wings and the other tried to head on 7.53kg/s of HE cannons coming at him

>>78426478
nerd

why are the ishaks so damn good?

>>78423196
Waaaaalt.

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>>78422323

I mean, they served their purposes. Battleships were useful for shelling coastal positions, and at least in the case of American BBs, their anti-aircraft armament was pretty awesome.

But after the advent of the Aircraft Carrier, they became gigantic floating islands of steel carrying thousands of people that could be blown up by a few dozen planes (or even just one lucky one) being launched from hundreds of miles away.

It's a shame because they were badass, but for the cost in manpower, resources, and money they became less and less of a safe investment.

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>>78425979
A sexy museum.

And the first battleship museum that will become a dry berth, since water damage and leaking is causing a list that forced her to be shut down, they decided the cost of repairing and constructing a new permanent dry berth is worth the cost of constant upkeep due to water intake.

It's going to be quite a unique museum. And will showcase the sheer size of the vessel better than any other.

I'm quite hype, although its sad she will never be in her natural element again.

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So is there any real difference between the A6M2 and Mod .11?

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>>78427468
You call that a museum?

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>>78427468

That's incredibly cool. I agree with what you said about showcasing the sheer size - so much of a ship lies below the waterline.

>>78427768
no arresting hook

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>>78427468
Reminds me of this, been here too

Can the guns on the IL-2 take out light pilboxes and light tanks or does that require bombs?

>>78428373
The cannons work on light pillboxes, and even medium tanks from the rear

>>78427768
>ghibli sameface
Gets me every time.

>>78428373
if you are using the 23mm with armored target belts I know you can kill light tanks and I THINK medium tanks(from the top,rear, and sides)
should get light pillboxes aswell

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>>78427906
There's no other like it in the world, and its also the only surviving dreadnought, double whammy.

>>78427946
Just like an iceberg yes, the public never really gets to see a view of a warship out of its element because that only happens in drydock so a museum like this will be really unique for a ship this size.


>>78428167
Theres something part satisfying and part sad about seeing a ship out of water like that. On the one hand it just got easier to handle as a museum and could allow more access to the public, and yet on the other it is forever out of its element.

Still cool pic.

>>78427092
>those torpedo trails
makes me hard.

http://devblog.warthunder.com/2014/08/28/in-development-venom-fb-mk-4/?hl=en
http://devblog.warthunder.com/2014/08/28/in-development-venom-fb-mk-4/?hl=en
http://devblog.warthunder.com/2014/08/28/in-development-venom-fb-mk-4/?hl=en

>>78396451
>not Kancolle edition

>>78429984
>slowpoke

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>>78429984

>>78430058
>Kancercolle

>>78429984
>http://devblog.warthunder.com/2014/08/28/in-development-venom-fb-mk-4/?hl=en

How does the climb rate of the Venom FB.Mk.4 compare to the MiG-15bis? From what I can tell, they should be pretty similar.

>>78427768
Are they going to heaven?

>>78430230
>Rate of climb: 9,000 ft/min (45.7 m/s)

Is "Attacker" just gaijins version of CAS?

>>78430383
Full retard.

>>78430319
That's the FB1 stat from Wikipedia, not the MK 4. The MK 4 had a better engine.

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>>78430282

Yes

>>78430383
No, it's an actual aircraft designation in many militaries. What the fuck do you think the "A" in "A-10" or "AC-130" stands for?

>>78430230
>>78430494

they are around the same (50m/s~)

>>78430585
Aircraft, duhh

Option to change color of mouse joystick when

I am having fun in arcade and you can't stop me

>>78430945
enjoy getting no rp

>>78430673
That's sortof what I'm worried about. I thought the MiG-15's only real advantage over other end-game jets was the climb rate? (I'm only at the MiG-9 at the moment, so I haven't flown it yet)

>>78430509
Those are all A6M2s

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>>78431080
but im having fun

>Zero goes head on against my PBJ
ALL POWER TO FOWARD DAKKA

>>78432056
>Yak 9UT goes head on with my Ki-84 Hei
ALL POWER TO FORWARD DAKKA

>>78432056
>head ons in my A20
>head ons in my B-25

feelen gooden

Apparently bushes are filled with explosives. Ran over one while landing and my plane blew up like it smacked into a concrete wall.

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>There are copies of the same plane with a different skin and identical performance in the Spitfire line that are essential to progressing through it

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>>78432512
>Tempest V goes head on with my Yak 9UT
ALL POWER TO FORWARD DAKKA

>>78432603
>in the P40 line as well

I swear this only exists as a obstacle against easy jet acquisition

>>78432564
They have the same hitbox as the smallest trees. Blame lazygin.

>>78432603
>>78432724
Dont forget the Bf109 line
And while we're at it the A6M line
Oh how about the Peshkas?
Maybe the Dorniers as well!

>>78431912
Then feel free to continue playng it. Don't mind the autists here.

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>Any plane goes against my Ju 87G-1
ALL POWER TO LIFE OR DEATH

>Any plane against any plane on a head on
Lrn 2 lead turn, win.

>Any plane within a km of my Wellington

ALL POWER TO THE J KEY

>>78431114
>bawwww, I can't just be untouchable energy god with sabre+s backing me up

What belt for bomber hunting with the browning M3?

Still tracer?

>any plane above mine

ALL POWER TO LAWN MOWERS

>no burgers queued up for Hokkaido event

I don't blame them

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>any plane
ALL POWER TO AERODYNAMICS

>>78434295
I was trying to fly the fucking Hellcat in a tier it could actually get some challengers in but it was taking days to get a game because nobody will queue. Bummin' me out clappers.

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>>78400507
>>destroyed in nuke testing

That'd be the Prinz Eugen, the Lucky Ship of the fleet. She had many close encounters with fate, but in the end it took a fucking Nuke to kill her, and even the it was because she was too irradiated to be worth shoring up and pumping the leaks.

She was reasonably close to the center too, IIRC.

She was a beautiful ship too, looking very much like a smaller version of the Bismarck and Tirpitz. And today, she rests in a shallow water grave, part of her still sticking up above the surface. Just type in "Prinz Eugen" into google and hit maps and it'll show you a neat satellite view of her.

>>78434546
Shudda won the war.

>>78434295
tempests too good

>>78406906
Great uncle of mine was killed in that explosion.

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>>78435039
Mines are a bitch, especially if you get struck twice the same day..

>>78435224
It was a torpedo that took out the New Orleans.

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Do joystick users really have a substantial advantage of m+k in RB games?

>>78435649
if they know how to use it, yes

but they sure do know how to cry over mouse users

>>78435649
no

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>>78411864
>Jesus fucking christ was the later part of WWII a giant fucking mess of friendly fire?

Yup.

Funny story time. Did you know James Doohan, aka Scotty from Star Trek, served in WW2 as a member of the Royal Canadian Artillery Regiment? (Yes, "Scotty" was a Canadian). Doohan first saw combat as a commissioned Lieutenant during the D-day landings. He lead his unit through the beaches and reportedly shot two snipers himself while leading his troops to higher ground and then through an anti-tank minefield.

That very night while moving from one camp to another to deliver a report, he was repeatedly shot by a fellow Canadian when the man, on guard duty, got spooked in the dark and fired on him with his BAR. Doohan suffered 6 hits, four hit his leg, one hit him in the chest (and was partially stopped by a cigarette case! How cliche!) and one bullet destroyed his right middle finger to the point it had to be amputated.

Thats right Scotty had only 9 fingers. He always went to great lengths to conceal it during his acting career, but if you know to look for it, you can spot it from time to time.

But yeah, Friendly Fire is a tragically all too common occurrence in any war. To quote Murphey's law "Friendly fire ISN'T".

>>78435649
I'd say
Keyboard roll + mouse yaw/pitch > Joystick > Pure mouse > Gamepad

>>78436409
I never knew that, surviving a burst of BAR, good god he must have been a tough sunnofabitch

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>hurricane following you

>>78436409
I like learning about military services of celebrities. Not people who just fake it and go on USO tours and raise money for war bonds and shit like that. Real honest combat vets who happened to be famous actors.

Was reading about Jimmy Stewart's service just the other day.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Stewart#Military_service

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Are we still celebrating mass murderers?

I hate this game so much

>>78437209
No we're onto warcrimes now.

>>78437209
worst witch
murderer of bread

>>78437492
Like U.S. bomber spam that killed seven million German civilians? Or the nukes dropped on Japan when they were already eager to surrender?

>>78437993
At that point of the war. It was already "standard" as far as I can tell to bomb the living shit out of civilians.

>>78437993
Exactly. Stuff that isn't really warcrimes but axis babbies think they are.

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do you expect me to belive a 1000lb falling 2 meters near a pillbox wouldn't obliterate its existence gaijin?

>>78437993
Shoulda won the war

>>78438227
Depends on the bomb. If it penetrates into the ground, then explodes after a delay, the force of the explosion is directed entirely upwards. There were the reports of crews on Henderson Field where Vals would drop 1000 lb naval bombs on them and they'd land only a couple meters away, explode, and they'd be unharmed. And those weren't even crews in sheltered pillboxes.

>>78437492
>>78437993
>>78438119

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor%27s_justice

My freedom browser automatically replaces problematic characters when I copy to clipboard, so I could even paste URLs into strings without needing to check. Submissive Chrome users have difficulty posting to reddit URLs with parentheses.

This fucking tiger man
Every time I try to rotate my gun it always stuck on the headlights
ahhh GAIJINNN

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>>78438227

When in doubt, use a bigger bomb.