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How fares your empire, /gsg/?

On this day in history, June 15th:
1215 – King John of England puts his seal to the Magna Carta.
1219 – Northern Crusades: Danish victory at the Battle of Lyndanisse (modern-day Tallinn) establishes the Danish Duchy of Estonia. According to legend, this battle also marks the first use of the Dannebrog, the world's first national flag still in use, as the national flag of Denmark.
1246 – With the death of Duke Frederick II, the Babenberg dynasty ends in Austria.
1389 – Battle of Kosovo: The Ottoman Empire defeats Serbs and Bosnians.
1520 – Pope Leo X threatens to excommunicate Martin Luther in papal bull Exsurge Domine.
1752 – Benjamin Franklin proves that lightning is electricity (traditional date, the exact date is unknown).
1888 – Crown Prince Wilhelm becomes Kaiser Wilhelm II; he will be the last Emperor of the German Empire. Due to the death of his predecessors Wilhelm I and Frederick III, 1888 is the Year of the Three Emperors.
1920 – A new border treaty between Germany and Denmark gives northern Schleswig to Denmark.

## News
>DW Universe released
>EU4 DLC conquest of paradise out

>CK2 Patch 2.1.4 released. Check the Pastebin.

# Website
>[Link Fixed] FAQ - Mods, Patches, DLC and Pirate Stuff
http://pastebin.com/ySV4WZ1Q

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http://www.grandstrategygeneral.org

# Wikis
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http;//www.paradoxwikis.com

# Archives
>Another anon archive
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# Mods
>[CK2 - 2.1.4] - Historical Immersion Project - Updated 18/05/2014.
http://www29.zippyshare.com/v/18810780/file.html
>[V2 HoD 3.03] - /gsg/vickymod v1.09 - NNM integrated
http://www.mediafire.com/download/r01dy9dvjcdj3iq/vickymod109_unofficial.7z
>[V2] Historical Project Mod - 24/05/2014
http://pastebin.con/66gpxbKk

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nth for crown prince willy the cripple and incest fetishist
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>>70882106
Nothing wrong with incest.
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>>70882194
>Wanting deformed children

Top kek, there's a reason why it's forbidden in christianity you know.
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>>70882106
slander. mods ban him
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nth for le moslee meem
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I hate to be that guy but HIP has the annoying habit of crashing everytime it tries to autosave, does anyone know the problem or a fix for it, I have a similar problem with SMWH but not as severe
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6th for no hope
>>70879968
>>70881232
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>1888 – Crown Prince Wilhelm becomes Kaiser Wilhelm II; he will be the last Emperor of the German Empire. Due to the death of his predecessors Wilhelm I and Frederick III, 1888 is the Year of the Three Emperors.

What would have happened if Frederick had not died? He was more liberal than Willy II, so maybe he'd have followed Bismarck's advices
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>>70882106

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/kaiser-wilhelm-iis-unnatural-love-for-his-mother-led-to-a-hatred-of-britain-8943556.html
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>>70882252
Jewish propaganda. Look at this instead.
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>>70882374
>mana system
>in hearts of iron

This shit is so fucking stupid.

Do you think HOI4 will have a shitton of provinces like hoi3 or not many at all?
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Here's the Aurora pastebin

http://pastebin.com/62BnVJsC
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>A new border treaty between Germany and Denmark gives northern Schleswig to Denmark

Did the Entente force them into this or was it a mutual agreement between Denmark and Germany?
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>no Steamgroup warning
>retarded picture
>shitposting with pseudo-history and psycho-history
shit thread
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>>70882575
But too many provinces would be to comlicated anon. How can you expect players to handle the eastern front with more than 10 provinces?
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I know Dominions has their own thread but it's really slow so I wanted to ask here for those of you with some knowledge:

Coming from a grand strat perspective, how good/fun is Dominions? Any overall thoughts?
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>>70882703
What do you think?
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>>70881941
Let me give an example

>R&D comes up with new and fun ways to bomb mud children
>Obama tells the army to adopt said new ways to maximize the fun

Obama (the government) is expending military points(the army improving their methods) to make use of new technology

This is how the EU4 MP system is supposed to work. It's not wizards summoning the gods of Diplomacy on a mountaintop to grant them better warships.
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>>70882414
I imagine he would have made Germany more liberal like Britain and possibly created more friendly relations with the UK too. Aside from that, who knows?
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>>70882575
>>70882759
Any more provinces than that, and the game becomes too hardcore. Let's not scare off the casual audience
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In HOI3, if you let your dissent run wild, will it eventually lead to a regime change or revolution? Or does it just kill your industrial efficiency and spawn rebel militia?
I'm going to be playing multiplayer with some friends soon, and I was wondering if I played as Japan for example, tried to raise dissent as high as possible and have the USSR support the communist party in my country, if it would eventually lead to regime change?
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>>70882759
>>70883020
Don't be retarded, HoI3 had a shitload of provinces and it was atrocious. HoI4 is said to be somewhere in between 2 and 3.
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>>70882823
But how does this limit obama in his oppresion of revolts? I know that the USA propably have a shitload of points but what's the connection between R&D and suppression? Which assets would be the same to use?
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>>70882449
>Not having a fetish for beautiful, delicate hands.
Willy was a man of good taste.
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>>70883193
>there will never be a custom creator for nation leaders in the new HOI4
>you never will have your vision of the demi-god fuhrer
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>>70883193
>HoI3 had a shitload of provinces and it was atrocious.
Please tell me this is bait. I honestly belief it was just the right amount of provinces. Maybe we could actually use a few more on the pacific islands. Then again I'm not 100% sure how many divisions the US did actually use to capture Iwo Jima and the like
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>>70882776
I have spent countless hours fucking around with it. It is quite fun and worth the time, buuut, I'm not sure I'd go as far as to call it GS since you only have control over the military/religious aspect of it, with almost no insight into politics or diplomacy.
Regardless of that, I really like it, but for other non-GS related reasons.
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Newbie here, why isn't why ship blocking the port? The ships are all early carracks.
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>>70883567
There will be €4,99 Ruler Creator DLC on launch alongside German and Soviet sprite packs. buy the premium edition and get the Doomsday expansion for free, which adds a scenario in which Stalin attempts the unthinkable... (can also be bought separately for €7,99)

>>70883598
HoI3 was atrocious, learn to context
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>>70883285
>The army just discarded everything it knew about killing mud children
>Suddenly, Detroit wants more welfare NOW!
>It takes time to adjust to the situation due to the recent changes in the method of operation
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>>70883193
>Don't be retarded, HoI3 had a shitload of provinces and it was atrocious
The size of the map was fine. What bothered me was the irrelevance of some provinces, which should provide certain resources, but didn't. Many urban provinces that didn't provide manpower or leadership for example. But that's not a problem of the map size per se
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>>70878287
Crashed, Rehosting.
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China here

crash
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Crashed?
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>>70882359
What to call a gothninja/slavcore hybrid? Slavninja?
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>>70882414
>so maybe he'd have followed Bismarck's advices
And have shot all socialists?
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why is there no open source grand strategy game?

the way pradox' games work is pretty simple, a premade map which puts infos it reads out of premade country/province/history files on top of them with a rudimentary ai controlled by lua files to make it move.

that shouldnt be really hard for some hobby programmers to recreate?
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>>70884246
cyka
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>>70883781
>Introducing a new service rifle somehow makes it impossible to suppres the gentleman of high melatonin .
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>>70882414
>he was more liberal so he would've listened more to his conservative advisor
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>>70884250
I meant liberal in regards to foreign politics and imperialism. Worded that badly, sorry
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>>70884317
>of high melatonin
of high melanin
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>>70884208
>>70884213
rob probably quit because everyone bailed for dinner
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>>70884317
Only when the basketball tournament happens right as the rifle is introduces and the country's finest have yet to find where the trigger is located

That's why it's always a good idea to keep a small amount of mil points in reserve when playing EU 4, otherwise you may get delicious 2-3x revolts from a single province just as you spent all your points.
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Hoi3: Is winning in Gotterdamerung as Germany possible ?
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>>70883640
in the latest patch you need a certain number of ships to blockade ports depending on ship speed and base tax, carracks are slow so throw some barques or galleys in there
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latest save: https://www.mediafire.com/?cnh7ke1s7stg875
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>>70884869
fuck off namefag shitter
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NO STEAMGRUPPE WARNING
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>>70884274
>tfw no 1989-2015 game
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>>70884869
>Rob is stockpiling all military goods
epic
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>>70885037
Better yet, just make a grand GSG game about the collapse of the USSR and all the bloodshed and diplomatic fuckery that came with it.
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>>70885135
Why wouldn't you stockpile military goods? There is literally no reason not to.
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>>70885212
it's a dick move in a multiplayer game
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>>70884869
Russia come back
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>>70885195
That's what i was talking about.
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>>70885360
Only if you're UK. Austria won't affect the supply other countries get.
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What's memebloc?
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What's up with all those 1000 Sahara province ck2 mods?
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>>70885495
>gsg focused on Eastern Europe, the Caucasus and Russia
>You play as small state
>Russian troops and bases in your territory
>Either wait mass civil unrest, suck up to to the capitalists or go balls out and declare independence

>Play as Gorbachev
>Economy in the shitter, everyone is abandoning ship
>All the "peacefully integrated" smaller states have territorial claims
>And they're pressing them
>Suddenly NATO makes a move
>bljat
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>>70885360
wat. Austria quickly gets 3k of their stuff and then the market goes back to normal. Everyone else still sells to everyone else and once Austria hits their storage cap they sell off all excess.

The only way you screw the world is if you are the only producer of a good and specifically don't produce much of it. Like UK and machine parts.
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DED MP
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Please rehost in an hour
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MP information:

I will rehost tomorrow at 2:30 EST. Have the mod installed and be sure you get the right checksum (XCPN) before hand. Be ready at 2:30. I'm getting really fucking tired of wasting hours of time waiting for special snowflakes who think hosting at 2:30 means starting at 3:30.
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>>70886631
Then maybe you should organize your games properly, not in some anonymous 4chan thread full of shitposters.
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>>70886468
Kojak here

I have my vagina hair trimming appointment in an hour, rehost next months.
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>>70886720
>Steam group

Just end your life
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>>70886720
shut up aerzo

>>70886731
stop impersonating me
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DW pirate link?
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>>70886814
>stemgruppes
I'm not even in your game in case you didn't realize. If Rob wants his games to run smoothly, either trip up and warn people of host and start times in advance, or organise elsewhere. If he doesn't, he shouldn't complain.
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Someone host DH/KR
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>>70886720
It doesn't matter how you organize. There will always be people who show up one hour late and starts whining about how nobody waited for him.
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>>70881952
I guess the monster mod for CK2 died
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>>70887205
m8 I host at the same time every day. This is now an ultimatum to late comers.

>trip
fuck off
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>>70887213
Of course it matters. Just because you can't get rid of an issue doesn't mean you can't minimize it.
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XxXTheRealKojakXxX here.

Rehost when? I'm done with this fucking dinner.
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>>70887696
>rob being autistic
what else is new
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Hosting tomorrow Rob?
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Did 60 trillion Jews really die during the holocaust?
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>Qing, victor of Europe
>Suddenly my 20 air wings based in Minsk, of my ally Russia, get annihilated in one day
>Minsk has had all of its shit destroyed
>No message about nukes
Fucking what
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>>70888118
No, more.
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>>70887207
Oh yes, please!
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Comfiest nations in vicky2 to learn the game?
I downloaded and installed the latest vickymod.
I'm looking at something like muscowy in eu4, lots of action but you cant go wrong, not something like castille where you do fuckall and if you do ANYTHING before 1550 your game is over.
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Rome
Empire
Napoleon
Shogun 2

Which has the best campaign if auto resolving all/most battles?
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>>70888210
austria
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>>70888249
Not GS
Empire
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>>70887207
>>70888161
I host at the same time every day.

Have the mod installed and be sure you get the right checksum (RST) before hand. Be ready. I'm getting really fucking tired of wasting hours of time waiting for special snowflakes.
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>>70888118
Hello, newfriend, apparently you have somehow found your way to /gsg/. Don't worry, it's a common mistake. You see, here we talk about Grand Strategy games, and sometimes to historical facts related directly to those games. Now, the holocaust isn't part of any GS, nor the question you ask relates at all to GS or any videogame at all. I think you should go to /pol/, that's probably the place you were looking for to begin with. Now, now, don't thank me, people get lost, it's just a fact of life. Have a nice day!
I'll even link you to it so you don't get lost again:

>>>/pol/
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>>70888452
aerzo please
just host
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>>70888118
60 Trillion does not even come close. It's been at least, and that's really the lowest estimate, 60 googolplex.

My grandfather however, a jew, personally knew at least 800 trillion googolplex jews who died in the holocaust, one of whom was his wife and my grandmother who was gruesomely murdered at the young age of 5 by the nazis
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>>70888452
y-yes rob p-please be gentle
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I fucking hate this retarded AI. How hard can it be to focus on the actual threat, meaning fucking 120k frenchies that completely wiped out everyone else because you were too busy fapping in morocco?
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>>70888370

Shit, my bad. Could have sworn they used to be included in these threads but it's been ages.

Good good, was hoping it would be Empire
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>>70888591
Oy vey, you are only considering the jews that were currently alive during the holocaust. When you consider all of the future child jews not born the number is incalculably large.
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>>70888573
No. As of today (June 15th, 2014) I, Aerzo, commonly known as "The Epic", am announcing a total boycott of all multiplayers not in the famous Steamgruppe 2.0. God, I'm so great. Fuck you, faggots.
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>>70888540
Holocaust relates to World War II which is the main focus of Hearts of Iron.
Also
>here we talk about Grand Strategy games
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>playing EUIV
>AI's armies getting wrecked by my much larger armies
>split army into smaller armies to siege
>suddenly an AI army slightly larger than one of my small armies appears and attacks
>my army appears to be losing
>instead of ping-ponging like the AI armies usually do, my entire army is wiped out
>every faggot declares war on me

10/10 game design, if you can't make the AI smarter just give the player a bunch of debuffs

Brilliant
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>>70889080
>playing EUIV
Why would you even do that?
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>>70889080
How about you actually click retreat, dipshit?
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>>70888969
I don't remember any holocaust event in Hearts of Iron. Not official ones, at least.
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>>70889080
The Ai gages army strength before attacking. One time when I was byzantium I destroyed my entire navy at once and the mamluks declared war the next day.
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>>70888685
You forgot the part where the AI is apparently smart enough to support it's AI allies when it's fighting you, but your AI allies will run off somewhere else like a bunch of faggots instead of helping to reinforce your armies
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>>70889080
>make tactical mistakes
>WTF THIS IS UNFAIR

The average grand strategy player, anno domini 20 and 14
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>>70883285
I think the asset Paradox was going for was your leader's ability to focus on and oversee these developments. You can either oversee new military tech or focus on suppressing dissent in the realm. Countries under good leadership are more efficient at fostering these developments and get ahead while countries with less capable rulers fall behind, which is more or less the historical result.

Of course there's no real denying that monarch power was designed first to be an engaging gameplay mechanic, and isn't really concerned with actually representing how technological progress actually happened.

It's
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>>70889262
Oftentimes they wipe stacks before you can retreat. they also use maphacks
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>>70886052
>literally no money
>can't even afford to maintain your own nuclear arsenal
>call in the US and tell them if they don't help clean this shit up the world's going to die
>being the biggest country in the world doesn't do jack shit against food shortages apparently
>sell your oil for grain to the USA

I'd fucking play it.
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Rob are you going to fix your gross borders with Hungary tomorrow?
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>>70889421
>tactical mistakes
>player armies get raped but AI armies run away to fight another day

Yes, bad game design is the player's fault. Truly my eyes have been opened.
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>Be me
>Be Victoria2fag
>Buy Eu4 cause it was on sale
>also buy the dlc because good goy
>1st game
>inherit every great power in the game without doing much of anything
>actually take 1 province
>everyone in the map joins a coalitiin against me
How the fuck could paradox be so retarded? Are they trying to reward stupidity?
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>>70888591
So clever! Did you come up with that by yourself?
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>>70889621
>player doesn't tell his army to run away
>player's fault
Yep, everything checks out here.
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>>70889279
I'm glad Paradox is progressive and denies holocaust
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>>70889279
Raise your literacy.
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>>70889621
Maybe you shouldn't have split your armies into small enough stacks to get wiped out then
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>>70889621
>It's not me it's the game

Suuuuure
I've also played casual universalis 4 and, well...
The combat is rock solid. 90% of the info you need is right in your face. But if you close your eyes and only hope for the dice rolls then yes, you're going to have a bad time.
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Is Space Dandy GS?
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>>70889793
Ssssh. No tears now kike. Just shekels.
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>>70889564
>I think the asset Paradox was going for was your leader's ability to focus
That sounds like a rather interesting idea, why didn't thesy just go with that. Sort of like the Council in CK2. I never had the feeling of real progress in the EU4 research system. It just felt exactly like purchasing a building, not like initiating reseearch and then see it pay off.
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Has Paradox confirmed real minister names for HoI4? Or will the German version use fake names again, maybe even the international version?
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>>70890252
Wait the german version uses fake names for its version? I was unware can I see a pic or something.
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>>70890252
>Or will the German version use fake names again
I'm pretty sure I saw Hitler even when I was playing the german version over steam.
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>>70890441
German version removes pictures of Nazis though?
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>>70890441
>>70890252
the names are censored in HoI2 and the German retail version of HoI3

German steam version has the real names for some reason

>>70890532
true
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>>70889614
Of course, I still had 2 years of truce.
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Why does Victoria 2 have such shitty combat?
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>>70890620
What are the names changed to?
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I want to get into EU4 modding.
What do?
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>>70890620
I think my friend had that.
If I recall correctly it's just like Hatler instead of Hitler.
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>>70889564
>Of course there's no real denying that monarch power was designed first to be an engaging gameplay mechanic
That's funny because it's a fucking awful mechanic.
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>>70890620
>>70890802
>germans
like reading about hitler and nazis make you one right? fucking shit logic
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>>70890802
>Hatler

Is that some kind of chinese knock-off Hitler?
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>>70890964
The jews are trying to make the history of WWII as ambiguous as possible so that they can make up even more bullshit to guilt the new generation of Germans to enslave them even more.
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>>70889564
>monarch power
>engaging
>something that you have literally no control over is engaging.

No its just fucking dumb. Research was far better and made sense in EU3. Building buildings with bureaucrats made since. Culture conversion happening slowly over time rather than by pushing a button made sense. Everything about monarch power is shit.
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>>70890964
You might learn the truth. You might find out why it all happened. You might dissent.
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>>70890802
They should have done the best option
Joachim von Ribbentrop - Ron Ribbentrop
Adolf Hitler - Adolf Hilter
Hermann Göring - Hermann MacGoring
Heinrich Himmler - Heinrich Bimmler


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlmGknvr_Pg
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>>70890975
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVXdktmqwLg
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How do I git gud at Superpower 2?

I've played the tutorials but still I haven't understood the mechanics

in Vicky we had pops, but here how is produced wealth etc.?
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>>70890757
Read the guides on the forum and the wiki
Download other mods and explore their files
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>>70891064
This. Mana system is one of the main reasons, if not THE main reason why EU4 is absolute fucking garbage, and no amount of mods or expansions will make it as good as EUIII
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>>70891135
That would've been fucking beautiful.
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Rule, rule Rhomaion.
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>>70891220
Set taxes super high. Invest into all the resources till your self seficent. Lower taxes. Just find the guide on how to play 3rd world nations it works for all nations.
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>>70891115
>>70891063
Jesus what world do you live in
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>>70891573
Fuck off retard.
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>>70891135
>>70890802
Yeah that's it! I'm serious. It was Hilter!
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>>70891573
The one where the government won't tell you what you can and can't know?
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>>70891313
>>70891573

"Cool it Fuhrer cat"
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>>70855015
Just finished watching the movie, it was great thank you man
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>tfw spending 2 hours trying to figure out why France's oob wouldn't load
>tfw rewrote the file 10 times
>tfw forgot to change Burgundy's oob from FRA to BRG
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>>70891415
thanks, are there any nice mods for this game?

Maybe some graphic improvement?
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Asking again, in CK2, does anyone know how I can own towns as a regular character without the penalty?
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Does anyone still play Crusader Kings 1? I find it better than 2 in some regards.
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>>70892584
Such as? Only thing that was definitely superior was the economy
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>>70892231
Not really the game gets no real love. The only "real" mod for it is a mod that sets it in the cold war.
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>>70892897
What is the best gsg for cold war shenanigans anyway?
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>>70892897
that's sad since it seems to have some good potential, especially on the economic part
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r8 my goverment
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>>70893326
No Mosley/10
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THE FRENCH MENACE
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>>70893326
fixed
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>>70893326
Absolutism/10

>tfw this was kind of how it played out irl
lolthrowingawayBismarck
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>>70893326
Bourgoise pls.
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>>70893278
The game had a brokenish launch and that made it fall of the radar almost immediately and what few mods it got then were to fix the broken stuff. Now its fully working but most modders abandoned it.
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>>70894071
It needs a bitch.

I vote Eric Blair.
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I've got a craving for Finland, and the only cure is more dead Bolsheviks.
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>>70894123
The ultimate Jew
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>>70893326
>>70894071
needs more petain

TRAVAIL FAMILLE PATRIE
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>>70892662
CK 1 was a better dynastic game, if you started as a vassal, you had to build your way up through dynastic unions, going from count to king took several generations, in CK 2 you just save money, make faction to obtain realm, hire mercenaries, win.

In CK 1 characters actually died in battles and from diseases, that can happen in CK 2 but is much more uncommon than in 1.

CK 2 is a game about blobbing and is far too easy to keep your realm united, in CK 1 you could blob, but the larger your realm the more unstable it was and civil wars were assured.

CK 1 was event driven, while CK 2 is just about decisions.
You want to kill someone? here use a plot.
You want to change culture or religion? here, use a decision
CK 2 has a much better interface and AI and it's not so buggy but it doesn't have that RPG feeling CK 1 had.
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>>70894243
Suur-Finland best Finland
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Grand Campaign or Kaiserreich?
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>>70894681
KR of course. Grand Campaign is only good if you're going to join the allies in WW1.
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>>70894484
So mod it
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>>70890214
Yeah, from that perspective it would have made sense to invest monarch power on a monthly basis into tech instead of essentially having you buy it. Wouldn't be as different from the EU3 mechanics, but since monarch power is used in so many other ways there'd be reason to not invest everything and stockpile instead.

I don't mind it the way it is now though, it's certainly not the first game to handle progression like this.

>>70891064
How you get monarch power is limited but you have a lot of options in how to spend it, so everything has an opportunity cost. I prefer it to the system in EU3 where you put what you needed to in minting and stability and dumped the rest into whatever tech you wanted next.

I like having control over culture conversion and coring but they should take much longer, yes.
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>>70894243
Should I convert these guys into just regular infantry or will they actually be better? They're stationed in a hilly province.
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>>70893326
Your fucked n8
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How do I fit gud at DH? Tech teams and production shit I cannot fathom.
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>>70891135
>MacGoring
>Not McGorging

do you even fat?
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>>70895467
Mountain is actually really fucking good, but it'll force you to tech it and you don't have any mountain provinces in Finland, just hills. If you do decide to keep them, make sure to put them in a separate division under a Commando leader. Finland has several good ones.

>>70896028
pick whichever team has highest skill and a lot of overlap. autistically calculating tech speeds won't make you much more efficient, so don't worry about it too much.
Tech stuff that's in your year or before it, generally you'll want to prioritize like this:
research speed in industry > infantry techs > land doctrine > other industry techs > armor techs > rest

for production, just focus on infantry for your first few games. add a few MOT and ARM for penetration. HQs are useful for making armies fight more effectively. the rest is useless or niche.
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>>70895054
Get out Johan. Monarch power is bad and you should feel bad for liking it.
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The eastern menace took all my HRE vassals, but I've gotten to the prussian people in the clusterfuck that is eastern europe.
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Is there some sort of futuristic space empire game on this genre?
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>>70896920
>eastern
French*. My brain is dead.
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>>70894296
Stalin was better at Jewing than Trotsky was
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#justmappaintingthings
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>>70896956
>tfw no CKII-esque LoGH game
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>>70896920
>France
>Turks
>Crimea
>TIMURIDS
>English Montenegro?
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>>70896920
>dat france & Kebab
I'm not sure who you should remove harder
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>>70897857
Kebab's my shittiest ally.
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>>70896028
For tech teams it's best to just pick the one with the most related tech fields especially if they repeat.
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>>70898109
Also if a tech team has a much higher level than an other but slightly less related techs still go for the higher level team
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>>70898501
Besides the countless problems with this why in the fuck does every single one of these you guys post have a fuck huge Germany?
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>>70898501
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>>70898695
It's all the clay rightfully belonging to the German people. No one ever complains about Russia being fuckhuge with countless regions that don't even have a Russian majority. But if Germany gets some clay, it's an atrocity.

Also, I'm a south German boo.
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>>70898501
>getting rid of Switzerland

Monstrous.
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Can somebody please upload wealth of nations? I don't feel like downloading a 1gigabyte torrent just for it.
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>>70898973
I am too

Why the fuck do you want poland
Why the fuck do you want czech republic
Why the fuck do you want switzerlanjd

Okay I can understand Austria
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>>70898973
Ya dont get me wrong alot of it is rightful german land but come one Denmark? The Cheks? The Swiss? Might as well annex the balts and the dutch
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>>70895054
But eh EU3 system made sense both in a logical sense and as a game mechanic. You play well, you set sliders right, you run good policies, you get more cash and magistrates or whatever other resource is required to do the shit in game. The better you play the more you're rewarded.

Here it neither makes any fucking sense from a logical standpoint nor is it a good, engaging game mechanic. Just three resources used on absolutely fucking everything, and the amount you get is determined at random with hardly any player input going in to change the favour of it outside of hiring some advisors. It's utter bullshit and completely gamebreaking. As if mana as a resource system wasn't fucking horrible enough as is, its application in converting fucking cultures in a matter of a few years and gaining instant cores everywhere and generally used to execute every single fucking in-game action from waging war to constructing a building to taking a shit was terrible.

EUIV is a bad game. It just is. And when compared to it predecessor, it's absolutely fucking horrible. It's not engaging, it manages to have even less depth than EU3, it makes blobbing through inheritance piss easy as all fuck and yet at the same time pulls some insanely bullshit and unrealistic restrictions when doing it through conquest, and the decisions like forming Germany and shit are underwhelming as all fuck.
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>>70899194
Have you ever heard of german culture?
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>>70898695
Because they are all Germaboos trying to justify their stupid german fantasies
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I have 100% warscore, why can't I vassalize that country? why did I even spend 25 years occupying all their land?
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>>70899371
>german
>culture
pick one
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>>70898973
In all the russian territories there is a significant russian minority presence: ukraine, belarus, the baltics and central asia are russian clay.
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>>70899457
They're probably too big.
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r8
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>>70899545
You're a retard.
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>CK2
>1205 start
>playing Duke of Toulouse -> King of Navarre
>notice the King of Castille has a weak claim on England
>okay, whatever
>fucking around
>suddenly, the remnants of the Angevin Empire in France turn into Ireland
>wat


Castille somehow successfully pressed its claim on England, but the King of England had created the Kingdom of Ireland before the English crown was lost. It's weird and it upsets me somehow.
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>>70899651
yeah obviously, but how does that make sense?
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>>70899542
Fuck off, frogman.
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>>70899660
>leaving the Slovaks in the hands of the Magyars
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>>70899893
They deserve nothing else, the leeching scum.
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>>70899679
I never said that germany can't blob, but russia has far more claim to its imperial land than germany does, considering that it's only been separated from it some 20-odd years whereas the HRE hasn't been a significantly centralized/homogenous entity for hundreds of years.
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FUCK OFF WE'RE FULL
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>>70900012
>9 divisions in Viipuri
way too many anon. you're going to get crushed
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>>70888151
Does anyone know how this could have happened?
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>>70899247
>Denmark?

I'd really like Denmark to be part of Scandinavia, but partitioning the Jutland peninsula looks horrible, regardless where you divide it. And the country that get's Jutland gets the Archipelago with Sjaelland.


>The Cheks?

The Checks are closer to Germans than any other Slavs. Being surrounded by Germans for hundreds of years will do that to you. And there is no way to make Gross Germany look good without Bohemia and Moravia. It's and integral part of the Germanosphere.
Giving that filthy communist pigs control over the jewel that is Prague is one of the biggest crimes of history.

>The Swiss?
Switzerland should not exist. It's borders are atrocious. Period.
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>>70900137
Possibly rebels. If a friendly airport is taken, all planes in it are handed over to the nation that took it. I'd just savescum.
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>but russia has far more claim to its imperial land
It doesn't. You're a fucking idiot.
Also keep in mind Germany was only neutered in the 20th century, that's not so long ago. And unlike Russia, the territories it held were majority German and places like Kalingrad Or Alsace-Lorraine no longer are because of mass deportation done on the part of the French/Russians.

Meanwhile you're saying Russia has claim to anything? Oh yeah because the majority population of fucking Finnland is Russian, right? Along with Estonia, latvia and lithuania, just russians there, right? Central Poland is all Russians too. Let me guess, all those fucking countries deported to poor Russians that made up 90% of the population in those areas? Shit even fucking Ukraine doesn't want anything to do with fucking Russia.

You're a fucking idiot.
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>>70900427
Germany with Denmark looks fucking awful.
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>>70898501
>implying
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>>70899106
>independent Slovakia
>independent Montenegro
>independent Ireland
>independent Bulgaria
>independent Caucasus
>independent Greece
>independent Baltics
>independent Luxemburg
>Russian Karelia
>Polish Posen
>German Wallonia
>Croatia part of Austria

pls no
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>>70882252

>2014
>Thinking that one generation of inbreeding causes genetic deformations

Come on, man.
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>>70900012
Probably just exhausting my manpower by doing this, but fuck those Bolsheviks
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>>70901108
at least you know where to not your troops now
OH WAIT you're going to hand over the fortified provinces. enjoy your Continuation War.
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>>70900725
>No Japanese Empire
>Mongolia anything but a Russian protectorate
>No German Poznan
>Spain still controlling the new World
>Alaska not Canadian
>Entire North sea not British
>Bulgaria not big enough
>Gross Arabia
>Top much France in Central Africa
>French German border not at the Rhine
>Finland too big and existing

These are only some problems, needs work anon
3/10
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>>70899106

German Wallonia is the best scheme. France sucks at respecting regional identities, and Wallonia on its own just wouldn't jibe with the generally more blobular map going on there. Germany has a better track record at protecting minority and regional cultures than the French, aside from '33-'45, and so Wallonia ought to be part of Germany.
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>>70901341
>Poznan
>the very place were Poland started
>German
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>>70900904
If parents have already shitty genes even one generation can cause deformations.
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>>70900725
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>>70901491
Nice borders come first anon and there were Germans there anyway
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>>70900612
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estonia
>24.8% russian
Are you seriously claiming that russia has no claim?
Meanwhile you are claiming countries like the Czech republic, which have less than a 1% german population? Are you shitting me?
Also did you read the list of countries that I claim that were russian clay? Can you point out to me where I name poland or finland?

And it's funny you should mention ukraine, since I'm from kiev and wholeheartedly support a reunification of slavic peoples. Meanwhile all you are doing is wanting to grab land that hasn't had any germans there living there for nearly a hundred years.
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>>70901582

Yes, but the act of inbreeding itself does not cause new genetic mutations to appear, despite popular belief.
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>>70901597
>that color scheme
you should never make a map again.
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>>70901774

Sorry for not sperging on colors.
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>>70901626
Any Germans that lived there were those that were transported by Bismarck. Before that, any german settlers submitted to local law and were polonized.

Saying that Germans have a claim to Poznan because they transported settlers there is like saying that Poland has a claim on Breslau or Ukraine on Crimea.
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>>70901774
He's probably the anon who made the country colo[u]rs mod
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>>70901947
>Ukraine on Crimea.
Crimea belongs to the Tatars
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>>70902108
Cancer/10
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>>70901934
>Habsburgs - Purple
>China - Lime Green
>Burgundy - not Burgndy
>Ottomans - not red
>Belgium - Purple
>China Communist - Purple
>Even more

I want to be sick
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Almost done carving up distant territories to reduce the size of the hideous blob. Should I also release Ethiopia? Normally I would say yes, but it would leave me with an ugly extension into central Africa just west of it due to my inability to trade occupied territory.
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>>70901934
>UCS
disgusting
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>>70902395

You don't even know, man. I was just posting the abbreviated version of that thing.
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>>70902574
Anon these colours are just as bad
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>>70902139
Crimea belongs to the Greeks. Tatars are horsefucking mongols that should go back to the steppes and stay there.
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>>70901627
Meanwhile what's the percentage of Estonians?
And no, I did not claim Chech republic does belong to Germany. Hitler's claims on Sudetenland on the other hand, were valid.

And your list is absolutely fucking retarded. I suggest you stick your head out of the fucking Russian propaganda machine.
>I'm from kiev
No wonder you're such a fucking idiot. Educate yourself on what the rest of the world is like first.
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>>70902574
>any color scheme from AH.com

Close your account there and never look back. It's for the best.
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>>70902829
>GALLO-ROMAN EMPIRE
GO
GO
GO
GO
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>>70902829

>everything is Roman
>except Rome
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>>70902829

>Ian the Admin

Who the fuck put that man in charge of the website?
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>>70902829
>No Aquatic Roman Empire
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>tfw no alt history mod for EvW ever

What sort of alt history would you liked to have seen anons?
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>>70902829
>no aquatic roman empire
shit
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>>70902750
The percentage of estonians is 75, far less than the percentage of native poles currently residing in everything east of oder neisse and non germans in czech republic.
Having those lands restored to germany makes zero sense now, where as there is plenty of support from former russian territories to come back.
And what the fuck are you even implying, I'm a ukrainian who wants to again see the glory of the slavic people, how would my opinion here not be of the utmost pertinence?
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>>70903150
EvW woudlv been piss and puke, like combining HoI3 and EU4
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>>70903331
you're thinking of HoI4, anon
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>>70903150
Post-KR, with reverse Cold War.
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>>70903118

He's the one who built the thing, to be fair. No one else out of the ancient usenet discussion group bothered setting anything up.

Doesn't excuse his awful administration of the forums, though.
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can someone explain this to me. Why does them having vassals make me unable to annex them? I'm supposed to annex them to complete this mission. How am I supposed to do it? Am I supposed to invade their vassals too? how do I do that?
>>
Note to self: Never play DH with WIF2 as Finland, because the Soviets will get 300 bonus divisions that include armored and mechanized units.
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>>70903546

>I'm going to ban anybody on the website who disagrees with me!

>I'm going to require people to always be polite in their discussions with one another but rampantly insult people myself and generally be a cunt to everybody!

>I'm going to prevent things that I don't like from being talked about on the website, because I don't like it!

Not to mention his SJW tendencies, Jesus Christ.
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>>70903150
- Germany complies with the Munich Agreement
- Doesn't ally with Japan, but with China
- Japan allies USSR
- USSR invades Baltics and Poland
- Germany intervenes
- Allies, except GB, join on Germany's side
- USSR and Japan are beat
- Germany goes full Lebensraum, against the pleas of the Allies
- German-American cold war
- Nuclear Holocaust
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>>70903305
The man was talking about those territories in a historic sense. No shit they have no claim to them now. They DID have claim at some point though.

Meanwhile
>>70899995
In this post you fucking imply that Russia TO THIS FUCKING DAY has claims to territories it held before the fall of the Tzars, territories in most of which Russians weren't even a majority at any point, unlike with the German territories in question.

Russia doesn't have claim to shit. Get off Putin's dick.
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>tfw a semi-immortal Turk stalling your dreams of a reborn Zoroastrian Persia
>>
#266th for Willy a shit

BISMARK, MORE LIKE BESTMARK, AM I RITE??
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Why half of my vassal want my brother instead of me when i became king after my father die?

Is scripted that way?
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Best Europe coming through
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>tfw 77 IC queued to be finished within the next 3 years

I'm almost tempted to extend the game timeline just to see how far I can inflate it. Plus, the war refuses to end. I feel like realistically the sides would have signed an uneasy truce by now, given the total lack of significant progress lately.
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>People say hitler was a shit for basing his country on war economy
>Same people praise the mongol empire
TIPPEST OF KAKS
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>>70903747
>plenty of ukranians want to be a part of russia
>plenty of kazakhs want to be a part of russia
>plenty of balts want to be a part of russia
>russia has no claim
Sure thing m8.

As far as historic claim, germany has no more claim to switzerland or the czech republic than russia does to alaska, afghanistan or mongolia.
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Now I know this seems a little far-fetched, but hear me out guys, I think this Europe would be neat to see.
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>>70904335
And a much, much, much larger majority don't. Are you a Kazakh? Are you a Balt? No, you're neither. You're an unnter fucking dumbass Russianboo.
>>70904248
Because they totally existed within the same timeframe right?
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>>70904431
>Belgium
>neutered Germany
>Russia in Koenigsburg
>Macedonia
>Kosovo
>Kebab in Europe
>small Armenia
>No Kurdistan
>belgium
>Belarus
>Moldova
>Tsarigrad not Bulgarian
>Cyprus
>straight lines in the Levant
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>>70904431
>i posted it again!!
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>>70904335
>plenty of ukranians hate russia
>plenty of kazakhs hate russia
>plenty of balts hate russia
>russia has any claim whatsoever

If a small margin of people want to join a country, that doesn't make a claim.
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>>70904479
You don't ask for land, you seize it.
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>>70904479
Please let me join

t. Aerzo
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>>70904335
>>plenty of ukranians want to be a part of russia
>>plenty of kazakhs want to be a part of russia
>>plenty of balts want to be a part of russia
>>russia has no claim
3 seconds in paint, just 4u
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>>70904431
>Russian Ostpreußen
>Rest of Prussia Polish
>independent Moldavia
>A part of Bessarabia is Ukrainian
>That sad, little, mutilated Austria
>Balkans are a mess
>Ireland

Shit/10 world
Would not live in
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His name shall be KAISAR.
Also, holy shit, that canal thing was expensive.
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>>70904612
>>70904532
>>70904808
I'm not saying that russia has a right to annex them, but if you are saying that germany has a claim to an area that they lost in a war nearly a hundred years ago, then russia has a claim that is ten times stronger to its former territory that they lost thanks to western interventionism ie bolsheviks.
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>>70905015
Fuck off Putin.
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>>70905010
>Kaiser Caesar
>>
CK2 is in the humble store, is it a good offer, 15€ and apparently it includes 22/21 pieces of DLC.
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>>70905015
They don't, because while both the Russian and German areas were lost at the same time, the ones lost by Germany actually HAD a majority German population, unlike with the Russians in the Baltic for example.

I don't even know why I'm arguing with you. Clearly it's pointless considering you've received permanent brain damage from Putin's dick penetrating your white matter. They must have a really good propaganda campaign running over at Kiev.
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r8 my gr8r cro8ia

Is this achievable? Anything I'm missing?
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>>70905715
>not going full yugoslav
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>>70905715
Take Slovenia for nice borders
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>>70905715
>Is this achievable?
>conquering 2 regions
You an get that much in 15 years. You just gotta wait for the Hungarian rebellion and kebab getting stomped by Egypt.

>Anything I'm missing?
All of Yugoslavia.
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>>70903908
Toothpaste Persia?
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>>70905715
You really wanna piss off both Austria AND Ottomans, the two nations you are tightly squished between? I'd say forget the Austrian territory, maybe go for Serbia and take off some more Turk.
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Has VeF gotten better or worse after the WoN update? I want to know if it's safe to play or if pic related will happen again.
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>>70906267
Austria explodes 90% of time in 1840's when Hungary rebels.
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>>70905539
>Russian and German areas were lost at the same time
What? Russia didn't lose those core areas I outlined until the fall of the soviet union, in 1991.
Germany lost territory either in 1918 or 1945.
Nearly no germans actually live in those areas now, where as plenty of russians do, and russian is still the main language spoken in plenty of them (most people I speak with actually talk in russian, despite this being the nation's capital).

And it's hilariour that you are accusing me of being brainwashed by the propaganda in kiev, the city that was overthrown by a fascist anti-russian government.
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>>70905763
>>70905983
No yugo

I wanted the rest of this region to appease my autism but it might only aggravate it. We'll see how things go with kebab.

Should I shoot for Russia as my patron saint as usual?
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>>70906646
You just mentioned Bolsheviks you dumb fuck. Do you know who signed the peace treaty between Russia and Germany during WWI and the resulting territorial changes?

The rest of your post just reeks of illiteracy and dumbassery.
>russian is still the main language spoken in plenty of them
Russian isn't even the second national language in the Baltic countries you fucking retard. Rightfully so.
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>>70906646
>fascist anti-russian government.
Man, Svoboda doesn't even have the Defense ministry anymore. Agriculture and "Ecology and Natural Resources of Ukraine" are the only two ministries they got, neither of which deeply involves social policy or camps or whatever the fuck.
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>>70906721
>I wanted the rest of this region to appease my autism but it might only aggravate it.
It's called Vojvodina. And why should you not go for it? What else are you gonna do for 100 years? Go Yugo or you will be bored to tears.
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>>70881952
Guys guys guys guys guys I just got Hearts of Iron 3 any quick tips before I jump into it?
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>>70906894
>one quarter of the population is ethnically russian
>russian isn't the second language
topkek

You do realize that the only reason that russia lost ww1 was because of the bolsheviks, as supported by the USA, the uk and germany, right?
In any case, the actually territory was not separated from the russian nation until 1991, where germany lost its land a hundred years ago.
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>>70907209
don't put the AI in-charge of anything other than trade
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>>70906721
Puppet Montenegro and free their cores. Puppet Serbia later with southern serbia for good borders. I agree, no Hugo.
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>>70907240
>the bolsheviks, as supported by the USA, the uk
>supporting communists
>supporting people who were actively fighting against the Entente-recognized government of Russia
>supporting people who were actively fighting to pull Russia out of the war and out of the Entente

what kind of horseshit is this
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>>70907240
I... what?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allied_intervention_in_the_Russian_Civil_War
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>>70907417
http://www.voltairenet.org/IMG/pdf/Sutton_Wall_Street_and_the_bolshevik_revolution-5.pdf

>>70907535
First you tear a country apart, then you profit from its weakness.
The allies (especially the uk and us) were in no danger during the whole war.
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>>70904171
Template?
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>>70905010
>his name shall be Johan
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>>70907209
get ready for massive amounts of painful micro-management. I don't think there can be a shittier way of having to organize your army than in this game.
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>>70907209
swallow some Ritalin beforehand
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>>70907702
>Antony C. Sutton
>believed that a Yale club secretly ruled the world
>that the US propped up the USSR as a way to make money
>same thing but replace USSR with Hitler
>legitimate source
11/10
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>First Crusade is against Norse King of Denmark for Burgundy
>Started in the year 900
Well shit. Bye bye authority.

Also, I'm having a hard time deciding what to do here. My original plan was to
reform and form Scandinavia, then have only Denamrk and Finland as vassels will holding Iceland and Gotland for myself, but Denamrk's being a beast here. Should I take Iceland and swear loyalty to him?
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>>70908314
You haven't actually produced any refutation here.
America has routinely toppled powerful leaders and healthy nations and replaced them with someone that they could screw more easily.
It just so happened that based stalin wasn't going to have any of it this time.
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How do I git gud as the USA in Kaiserreich?
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>>70908603
I'm saying that you've been duped by a crackpot
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>>70908603
>America has routinely toppled powerful leaders and healthy nations and replaced them with someone that they could screw more easily.
>implying either Nicholas II or Kerensky were powerful leaders of healthy nations
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>>70908603
Dude its improbable maybe some super capitalists helped the reds but they also would had helped the whites money man. There is no sensible way the entete would had helped the reds. Also this is in a time when america was more isolationist.
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what could have been
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How the fuck does quick save work in CK2? Is there a corresponding quick load?

I've reinstalled the game and played a campaign for 8 hours straight, quick saving every once in a while until the crashed during autosave.

I've loaded up the game again and the only save available when I click saved games is oldautosave, which is 10 years before the time the game crashed. I'm mad as fuck.

What the shit?
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>>70906721
Truly God is a Croat

First Austria asks for an alliance, then my war justification goes off without a hitch, no infamy, then Austria ACCEPTS my bullshit call to war and kicks the Turks' asses while they're in Egypt. This is too good
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>>70908737
The russian empire was indeed a healthy nation, rising from feudalism and slowly industrializing.
It managed to do pretty well against a much against a far more advanced foe (germany) despite having its population be incited by jews and banksters.

>>70908819
You see america doing the same thing today (iraq, afghanistan, libya etc) despite being a supposedly peaceful and enlightened nation.
What's so hard to believe that they would do the same thing a hundred years ago when barely anyone was aware of their actions?
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>>70909000
*until the game crashed during an autosave

Feels like I'll be dropping the game for another year and a half after these admittedly fun 8 hours.
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>>70909075
>It managed to do pretty well against a much against a far more advanced foe
HAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>70909000
there should be a folder with the name of your dynasty above the autosaves
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>>70909013
>god
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>>70909075
Ya also today america is a good deal different this is a hundred years ago today america is world police and everyone knows it. Back then america wasnt even a world power. You dont say Germany was attacking everyone everywere a hundred years ago so they will today.
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>>70909185
There is but it's empty.
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>>70909013
What the fuck is wrong with your country colours?
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What mod should I play for EUIV?
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>>70909368
Veritas et Fortitudo
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What are some sketchy sites where I can buy CK2 expansions, to activate on Steam?
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>>70909368
It's sad but the Byzaboo mod is honestly the best mod for EU4 out there
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>>70909420
Just pirate them. It's the right thing to do.
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>>70909112
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Front_%28World_War_I%29

>317k dead germans
>550k dead austrians
>2254k dead russians
That's not bad for a a nation that recently outlawed serfdom and had one of the biggest revolution in the history of the world occurring at the time.
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>>70909075
>The russian empire was indeed a healthy nation, rising from feudalism and slowly industrializing.
Everybody else worth a spit had done that a century earlier. Russia was lagging behind and Nicholas listened more to that fornicating priest than he did the likes of Sergei Witte, which was damn foolish of him.

>It managed to do pretty well against a much against a far more advanced foe (germany)
>pic

That aside, they also fared poorly ten years prior, Port Arthur and all that.
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>>70909521
I'm on Linux and it's a pain in the ass.
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>>70909532

How the fuck did the Russians manage to lose that many men?

Did Russia even HAVE that many men?
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>>70909579
WW1 literally started because Germany was afraid that Russia would be an unstoppable monster in the next decade if they weren't cut down to size.
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>>70909649
Get a decent OS.
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OOBs are much worse than pop modding.
This shit is so fucking dull
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HERE WE GO
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Why the fuck is CK2 so goddamn easy? I got it a week ago and after like 4 tries I finally figured out how to play and can now dominate the world if I want. I have a larger retinue than any other country's levies.
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>>70909721
xd
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>>70909773

Godspeed.
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>>70909775
What did you expect? Everyone says it's the most casual "gsg" for a reason.
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>>70909924
that's eu4
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>>70909775
Retinue are basically a cheat DLC to help babbies. You shouldn't use them.
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>>70909430
>Calling it a byzaboo mod when it's only like that in the explicitly alternate history bookmark
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>>70909924
Actually everyone says EU4 is the most casual gsg.
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>declare on Britain to release Canada from being a satellite
>use Amerikanski as the muscle in the operation
>win war
>get like bazillion prestige
>shoot right to great power with this industrial/military score
Oh god what?
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>>70909719
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>>70910176
>878 prestige
You fucking whore
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>>70909579
And? Germany industrialized earlier, so what?
Russia wasn't that far behind in 1914, if not for the bolsehviks russia would have overtaken germany industrially soon afterwards.
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>>70910270
I know, right?
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>>70910113
Because CK2 isn't grand strategy.
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>>70909719
/gsg/ likes to fellate Kaiser Bill's cock, but the Kaiser and his ministers were a bunch of damn fools who misjudged things plenty.

Bloody Sunday and all of 1905 should've been an indicator enough that the Imperial Russian government wasn't fit to last, and either was going to have to undergo substantial (and likely drawn-out and plagued with unrest) reforms or try to pretend nothing bad was happening and then implode in revolution the next time a crisis came around.

What reforms and improvements Russia /did/ act on usually relied on foreign investment and involvement anyways, which also goes contrary to the point of old Russia being a strong, independent great power who don't need no man. Heck, the ferries that criss-crossed Lake Baikal to complete the Trans-Siberian railroad were made in Britain and the locomotives were made in America!
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>>70909672
>misha, here is mosin nagant
>don't worry if lose mosin nagant, there is so many americans will still be buying thousands of surplus in hundred years
>don't worry if lose life, there is so many germans will still be killing millions in thirty years
>just point mosin nagant at german, pull trigger, boom
>how you know who german?
>silly misha
>german have boots!
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>>70910297
Do you have any idea what your talking about? Like at all? The UK started industrializing in the late 1700s. And preety much everyone Italy Germany Uk USA France was in full swing by 1880 except russia.
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>>70909719
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>>70910110
Retards don't know how to read or check the start date and think the whole mod is byzzaboo wankery, so they come here and complain.

Byzantium starts heavily crippled.
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>>70909672
You get gun.
You don't get gun, eef see gun, take gun. Here, have boolets.
You get gun.
You don't get gun, eef see gun, take gun. Here, have boolets.
You get gun.
You don't get gun, eef see gun, take gun. Here, have boolets.
Eef see men without gun step back, shoot men without gun.
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>>70910429
>>german have boots!

>great grandfather is Polish farmer in easternmost part of Silesia
>drafted to Imperial German Army with brother
>sent to Verdun
>70% of unit dead, including his brother
>unit withdrawn
>great grandfather got shot in arm
>received some first aid
>"ok your unit is dissolved, you can go home"
>receive no pay
>have to go back 1200 kilometers back to home village on foot
>boots fall apart halfway through
>mom won't even let you back into the houseafter you come back because you're so filthy, need to get a good bath and scrubbing outside first
>also arm got some complications and had to be amputated

Seriously, fuck WWI.
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>>70910746
>Polish
Sounds like he deserved what he got, subhuman.
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>>70910450
Have you looked at russia on a map recently?
Note how its a shitload bigger than all of europe combined, far more removed from the west and has very little naval access?
Russia just barely removed serfdom, it was still an agrarian state.
And despite this it had industrial outputs close to the major european industrial nations.
If russia didn't get fucked over by bankrolled bolsheviks then it would have caught up to germany in twenty or so years (a big part of the revolution was the plight of newly arriving city workers in neophite russian urban centers).
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>Freedom intensifies
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>>70910817
seems liek you've got your world wars mixed up
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>>70910251
>>70910412
>>70910490
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/July_Crisis
>He stated that under no circumstances did he want a peaceful solution, and though he did not want a preventive war, he would not “jib at the post” if such a war came because Germany was ready for it, and Russia “fundamentally was not”.[63] Russia and Germany being destined to fight each other, Jagow believed that now was the best time for the inevitable war,[64] because: “in a few years Russia...will be ready. Then she will crush us on land by weight of numbers, and she will have her Baltic Fleet and her strategic railroads ready. Our group meanwhile is getting weaker”.[63]

> Riezler’s diary has Bethmann Hollweg saying to him on July 20 that Russia with its “growing demands and tremendous dynamic power would be impossible to repel in a few years, especially if the present European constellation continues to exist.”[85]
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HELP
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>>70910817
Some supermen you are, can't even make good boots.

WW2 was a doozy though, great-grandpa got German citizenship by the start of October 1939 and spent the next six years drinking with the local garrison until they ran away.

Then he joined the Communist party of Poland.
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they sure like sperm

http://www.ckiiwiki.com/Advanced_marriage_guide#Fertility
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>>70911082
Yes, because if Russia was able to stockpile ammuniton and matterials for war she might actually be able to use her millions of peasants for something useful.

Assuming their general staff and military leaders aren't completely fucking retarded
oh wait they were
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>>70896956
There's Distant Worlds and Aurora.
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>>70910969
Why does which world war it is make a difference to whether Polish are subhuman or not?
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>>70910831
>Note how its a shitload bigger than all of europe combined, far more removed from the west and has very little naval access?

To be fair on that, a lot of that space is Siberia and fuckall noone lives there or ever has lived there. European Russia is still large, yeah, but talking about the vastness of Russia like the whole damn thing is actually worth something is like the US talking about how all of it is worth a damn when there's the Great Plains and Alaska and New Jersey to account for.
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>>70911269
The point isn't whether the German leadership was right or not. The point is that they believed it and that's why WW1 started.
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>>70911082
Just because Germans thought such things about Russia does not mean they were true. The Germans also thought they would win WWI; clearly, they were wrong there.
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>41 Intrigue
Dear lord please help me
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>>70909919
Kebab = greatest ally
All I had to do was separate peace Morocco by revoking a reform and they knew what to do.
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>>70910901
>all dose carriers
POWER
PROJECTION
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Rate my Armenia so far

Goals include:
- taking remaining de jure land from Greeks
- installing my dynasty on the Georgian throne
- creating a kingdom in Al-Jazira under my dynasty
- creating a kingdom in Mesopotamia under m dynasty

What else should I do?
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>>70910901
Having to reorganize almost 100 air units and over 200 ships is going to be painful.
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>>70911487
see
>>70911362

And it's silly to think that their fears were unfounded, considering that the Soviet Union was a dominant superpower even after suffering through two horrible world wars, a civil war, and being run by communists.
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>>70912021
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>>70912189
>Iberia
>Albania
For what purpose
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>>70912021
Bust Persia.
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>>70912295
That's what they were called numnuts
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>>70900012
>FUCK OFF WE'RE FULL
You're Australian shitposting is showing.
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>>70912503
>You're.
Your American idiocy is showing.
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>>70912021
yfw Poland is the strongest single power in Russia
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Is there someway I can caculate the best possible retinue with what I have at hand? Unless I'm Byzantine or English/Welsh I don't really know what I'm taking.
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What in the fuck is going on here
One of the largest armies in the world and it gives it a score of 0?
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>>70913018
Who's the purplse guy in HRE?
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>>70913170
How soft is number 1s hand? Does he have a soft voice?

If very soft and soft voice then I pick number 3.
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>>70913197
some German vassals of Milan. When HRE doesn't immediately break up things get weird fast.

Jesus christ what world is this
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>>70913170
id rather fuck a jungle chink then a twiglet
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>>70913018
>disconnected borders

Take it away.

Disgusting.
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GOD WILLED IT AND IT WAS SO
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>>70913467
>When HRE doesn't immediately break up things get weird fast.
Well, that's historical.
So's Spain being a mess.
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>Germany still hasn't invaded the Americas after nearly 14 years

It's like I have to do everything myself around here.
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>>70913467
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>>70913760
Yessss, invade Brazil through the amazon.
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>>70904171
>Istanbul

Nope.
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>>70906646
>Fascist

There's that word again. Let me let you in on a secret: They're not fucking fascists. Ironically enough they're opposing the true fascists in Russia who want to unite all the slavic peoples perform nationalized industry etc etc. Ukraine isn't fucking fascist and every time someone uses that incorrectly I want to punch them in the kidneys.
>>
First post ending in 3 tells me which country to play a full game as in EU4.
Will post evidence on completion.
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>>70914496
Albania
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>>70914496
sukhothai
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>>70914125

We'll see how that goes. I foolishly forgot that USA has a land connection of allies or countries giving them access all the way through South America, thus allowing them to do strategic redeployment and already be here to kick me out.
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>>70913467
>be Castilla
>mary Italian duches
>inherit piece of Italy when ruler dies
i wasn't even paying attention.jpeg
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>>70911269
I was both horrified and amused to see Russia's most successful WW1 offensive (Brusilov) still saw a 2:1 casualty ratio in favour of the axis.
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>>70914276
Not him, but Tymoschenko's term was marked by nationalistic measures. Anti-gay laws, anti-minorities laws, cases of burned Romanian Orthodox churches [who were leaning toward the Romanian Metropolitan Bishop instead of Moscow's], and many other nasty stuff. Fascist isn't exactly the right term, since it only applies to Mussolini's Italy, but Ukraine did its fair share of "fascist" actions
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>>70912045
Better dead than red.
Captcha: ylyour Lord
Truly a sign from Jesus Christ himself.
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>>70914632
>>70914639
Nice try fuckers
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>>70914496
Bhutan
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>>70914496
Ryukyu
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Well, so much for the solo Persian invasion of Brazil.
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>>70914496
Mali
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>>70914496
Kanem Bornu
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>>70914496

One of the OPM native american tribes.
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Jesus fucking christ I've had a combined 4 years without a regency this game, 4 fucking years
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>>70915213
WINRAR
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>>70914496
Navarra is pretty cool.
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>>70915209
I told you bro, don't fuck with amazon.
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>>70915213
Post screenshots!
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>>70915213
I'll start in an hour
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>>70915213
Have fun, faget.
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>>70915213
Colonize Australia
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Playing EU3. How come Anhalt keeps breaking our alliance right after its formation? I'm Thuringia if that has anything to do with it.
>>
Can HIP CK2 games be ported to EU3?
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>>70915876
>70915876
Yeah manually
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This is a surprisingly handsome Britain
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>>70915898
How does one go about that?
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>tfw posting your campaign but no one cares to even comment
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>>70910101
Retinues make conquering faster. I can still raise 50k men to take on 10k Italian men, but it takes to long.
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>>70916140
iktf
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I've formed Great Colombia and become 3rd GP and now I want to conquer Spain in revenge for the colonisation of the Muricas do you think it's possible? For making things harder they have been sphered by France
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>>70916140
>>70916228

Welcome to /gsg/

The main activity is to talk about how much we hate grand strategy games and the company that makes most of them
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>>70916183
So like I said. Cheats for babbies.
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>>70916140
iktf

This is the most believable Jerusalem I've had so far. The King of Hungary, the senior brother of the Pope by three years, won the Crusade and installed their nephew on the throne.
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>>70916612
You're Miaphysite right?
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Finally managed to create the Kingdom of Aquitaine, so all the land I own is de jure. Which is the better title to set as primary-- Aquitaine or Navarra? Navarra was the first crown I got, but my character and dynasty have all been Occitan and making Aquitaine the primary title would be more befitting for that, right?
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>>70916140
Accept the silent approval of lurkers and the inherent achievement exhibited in screenshots.
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>>70916612
Anyone ever made Israel here?
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How do I explore the lake? I think it's the last spot on the map to get the achievement.
I tried patroling around with a conquistador, but it did nothing. Do I have to conquer the provinces around it? Is it an event?
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>>70916909
Colonizing around it :^)
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When do the Crusades fire? I want to be Scotland, and then abandon the kingdom to become the Kingdom of Jerusalem, but it's boring being a shitass in Scotland and being England's bitch.
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>>70916909
I think you need to colonize a province near it, or just click on it so your men move for a second.
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>>70916737
Yep. go for Aquitane, most of your lands are Aquitanese.
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We begin

I'll probably post updates every 50-100 years
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>>70917156
>>70916978
Notice that the land around it is uncolonizable, smartasses.
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>>70917298
>that mali flag
Seriously?
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>>70915989

Only if that's Western Isles up there next to Alba and not Wales.
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>>70917456
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>>70917456
>try to help
>get called a smartass
Yeah, fuck off, retard
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>>70917669
>>70917641
Then watch.
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>Holy Roman Emperor pressed anti-pope's claim on the Papacy, wins
>Holy Roman Emperor gets vassalized pope
>Holy Roman Emperor sets up new anti-pope

I'm going to kill the HRE.
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Is perma mobilizing in Vicky gamey?
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>>70918261
Obviously.
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>>70918261
Everything you can do in a game is gamey.
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>>70914916
Nationalists are holding on somehow. Front has been stable for at least a year.
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And we're back with the worst borders you have ever seen.

For those of you who don't remember, this is a converted 867 CK2 save that I fully intend to take all the way through HoI3 (or DH, if I can convert it properly). The purpose is primarily to see how horribly Johan's AI will butcher the world in over 1,000 years, but to keep things interesting I have endeavored to spread the Norse faith as far as possible.
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>>70917018
>not getting FREEDOM
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Does anyone have an iptorrents invite to spare?
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>>70919785
Sent
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>>70919856
soz m8, got /tv/ and /gsg/ mixed up

If you do have an invite send it to [email protected] though. I have a seedbox and am currently registered on animebytes and bakabt, along with the new bitgamer
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>>70911629
>He is not your heir
You should fix that.
Then just plot to kill everyone until you are the only person left to inherit everything.
>>
Darkest Hour givesme this error when trying to load my poland game

>8 errors have been encountered in the file, scenarios events etc etc
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>the governors of Terra and Luna died within a month of each other because of "accidents"
I didn't sign up for this shit.
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>>70920386
Too many "accidents", don't you think, Baron?
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How do I play as Mexico in Darkest Hour

I noticed it doesnt let you choose
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>>70920573
Right click flag
select from list
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>>70916228
>>70916405
>>70916612
>>70916774
I wish I could say I commented on everything myself, but I do try.

By the end of my Qing campaign, the world was shattered.
>Internationale: 11,289,063 dead
>Mitteleuropa: 6,880,796 dead (Germany didn't get much help)
>Entente: 9,962,733 dead

That's about 28.2 dead for just the non-neutrals. Wikipedia puts the military deaths in WW2 at 25 million maximum.

The Union of Britain hasn't even been cracked yet (and never will because naval AI)
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>>70915609
>hurr lets RP instead of answer serious questions
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>>70920806
>and never will
Why don't you take them out, anon? Don't you hate syndies?
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At this point I would've preferred waking up sleeping robots.
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>>70921627
It will probably be another 5 years before I have a navy meaningful enough to invade.
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>>70920806
Just finish them if you dont have the navy or patience just make some paras and troopsships take a port then dump a bunch of divisions in it.
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>>70917298
Welp

Time to play the waiting game.
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>>70922386
I literally just now started and ended a peasant's war within the same month.
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>>70921341
help me please

pls

pls

pls
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>>70922386
>now_we_wait.jpg
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>>70916374
Depends what year is it?
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>>70922386

>tfw Africans have the most resource rich continent but never evolved to have a great society beyond nigger huts.
>you will never live in a world where black people could have historically been respected on the same level as white men instead of being used like puppets.
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>>70921813
>6 divisions of paras
>fight, and take a port
>control Canada, dump 11 divisions there
>restore control
>Canada takes its divisions back off of England and my paratroops die
Sometimes I wonder why I play these games
>>
I'm pretty new to Crusader Kings 2 (just started playing about a week ago), I've had a pretty good game playing in Sicily (started in Apuleia, conquered the majority of southern Italy and a few counties in the North, ended up losing Sicily to the damn Muslims). I'd been keeping very good diplomatic relations with the Byzantine Empire but the new ruler is pretty damn intent on conquering my kingdom. What should I do? I was thinking about surrendering when he attacks since there's no way I'll be able to fight him off, and then trying to reconquer Sicily and slowly getting other counties in Italy, and then rebelling a while later. What do y'all think?
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>>70924628
Just swear fealty to him, marry into his family, and then claim the empire.
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>>70924628

Hey mate. Sicily is one of my favorite positions to play, especially as de Hautville because I used to be heavily invested in M:TW2 and Sicily has a really good strategical position for being in the middle of the Mediterranean. Keeping good diplomatic relations with the Emperor doesn't really mean shit unless you've gained a marriage alliance with him, which probably won't happen because you're de jure part of the Byzantine Empire.

A good strategy to use here is to either swear fealty to the HRE or at the very least gain an alliance with the current Emperor as they're the only ones capable of helping you fend off the hordes of Byzantines that want to reclaim Sicily.

Or, if you don't care about blobbing, you can expand quickly into Africa and start bolstering your own troops so you can match the Byzantines as they send waves of men onto the Italian peninsula.

Your current strategy would work, but it'll inevitably be really slow. Might just be better to restart and swear fealty to Byz/HRE and plan your rebellion later on while having a better starting position.
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>>70899660

Orange Ireland is best Ireland.

Why does everyone forget that Ireland is rightful British Clay?
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>>70922386
I used to have 29,000 soldiers and that again in manpower

I also made the mistake of advancing a tech early in the game.
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>>70924628
>Get gold
>Assassinate
>Repeat
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So it's been almost a year now. What do you guys think of EU4? Is it still shit?
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>>70925332
What's EU4?
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>>70924858
>>70924998
I have some marriage ties with the HRE, I married my son into them (his current liege is the head of the HRE and not me, which was confusing me). I think I'll try swearing fealty with HRE and then the Byzantine empire from different save points and see what works. I'm pretty far along with my dynasty (I think my score is at 15K) so I don't know if I want to just restart, if I get swallowed up I'll just start a new game in a different location.

>>70925253
my intrigue score sucks unfortunately and I can't find a good enough spymaster to offset it. I'm still pretty new to the game so I honestly didn't realize how important your wife's attribute scores were until recently - I had been valuing prestige of your wife's family above that.
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Where are all these Jews coming from?
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>>70903747
Are you implying that Russia doesn't have a claim to their tsarist holdings?

Do you know where you are?
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>>70925651
I wonder...
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>>70925571

Only problem with playing Sicily is the Byzantines will take ever change they can to declare de jure wars.

If you're interested in a later start, Naples is actually really fun and a historical place to start from that the Byzantines have a really hard time trying to take land from you.

For me, wife attribute values are really all not that important. I prefer Wives who have a hereditary trait like Quick, Strong, or Genius, the latter being the most preferable. +5 to all stats plus an opinion modifier of +10 makes ruling your fiefdom extremely easy on top of a high Martial score.

Wives are for breeding, not ruling.

(although, try to get a wife that has a high Stewardship so you can squeeze an extra demesne or two into your rulership)
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>>70904335

>plenty of balts want to be part of russia

You don't know what you're talking about. everybody hates russia here.
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>>70925884
Is Naples still independent when you start later? I've never tried playing where you start as a vassal, which is why I've gone for earlier starts (the only really successful game I had before this was starting in Ireland). And yeah, I've been doing some reading on attributes of children when I had a ruler who only had women until he was like 60, and I only got 2 years of educating my heir, so I tried seeing what traits he would get. I'll keep that Stewardship trait advice in mind, thanks.
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>>70925332
I play it with my buddies almost every week
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>>70924628
>playing CK2 without HIP.
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>>70926453

>Guy says he's new to CK2.
>Greentexting he should play a mod that adds additional mechanics to manage.

pls.

>>70926404

Yeah, Naples is independent. Another useful tip is women are hardcoded to stop breeding after 45. Men can have babies whenever. Educate your children personally if you can, and then switch to the educator of your choice (e.g. Brilliant Strategist) in the last month or so before they turn 16 so they can get a better chance at a preferable education trait.

or just save scum if they get fucked on education
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>>70926761
Yeah, I always make sure and educate all my children personally unless I have a vassal with good traits whom I need to make happier. Switching to other educators at the last step makes a lot of sense too, I'll try that also.

lel I already do my fair share of savescumming, I've been playing nothing but roguelikes for the past year or so, so I've been taking advantage of a game where I can actually save
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Damn, these guys are really picking up the pace.
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>>70927189
Any idea how to get more shipping lines to start up?
I have 2, the second line started up within 5 years of the first one, but now I haven't had any new lines for over 40 years.
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>>70881952
Should I join?
Every war I've gone to with Russia I've lost.
But France is my best Ally and have generally been a great ally.
I don't know I f I'm ready to go to war with Russia again . . .
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>>70927810
France can help you anon.

Go! Go forward to victory!
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>>70927585
I've no idea. I've been wondering that myself. It's been 50 years since the game started and I've only had the one start up.
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>>70928108
It's been 72 years in my game
Haven't met any aliums
Haven't built any armed ships
I've only explored 1 system other than sol
I've just been setting up colonies and accruing wealth.
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>>70928520
Same here. I explored all the systems adjacent to Sol, and then stopped so I could focus on developing Sol and expanding into 61 Cygni and Alpha Centauri.
Unfortunately, there are aliens one system over who aren't too fond of me, and I'm about to see if I can stomp them into the dust before they get any ideas.
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>>70928013
Will update late if anyone is interested
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>>70927189
>>70927585
use SM mode and press that Add line button. Another possibility would be to change your government form to something with higher trading.
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>>70926940
>>70926404
>>70925884
>>70926761

steamcommunity.com/id/thebestplayerinexistence

If you want anymore help getting into CK2 or EU4.
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>>70928745
Good luck anon.

Godspeed!~
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>>70928818
I figured that was it. I suppose it's all good if my only shipping line has had a 50 year monopoly on shipping business.
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>>70928961
It doesn't really matter.

The only thing I found pretty cool is that my shipping lines seem to have specialized - one only builds colony ships, while another one built luxury liners. The other two are a mix of freight and colonial
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>>70929042
Yep noticed that too, and it turned out ironically.
Bradley Transport specializes in freighters
Qin Freight specializes in colony ships and sorium harvesters.
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>>70919363
Are you the one from like a fucking year ago?
The guy who also made the CK2 fantasy mod?
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It's so delightfully hectic.
>>
I forget, why was East vs West cancelled again?
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>>70928831
thanks - does /gsg/ have any 4chan-specific pastas or anything? /rlg/ has some really good ones for roguelikes, but I didn't see anything in the OP that was /gsg/-specific.
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>>70929638
It would have been fun.
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Quick, /gsg/. You have one minute to name a place where you can find Somalians outside of Africa.
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>>70930351
yo momma's house
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>>70930351
Europe
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>>70908832
I'm hard.
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>>70930351
your mother's vagina
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>>70930351
new york city
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This is not going to end well.
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>>70930852
Those are some pretty fast FAC.
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>>70930958
Armed with meson cannons, no less.
I just hope they take the low hanging fruit so that the second task force can make it back home. The first one is quite out of date.
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>>70931182
Can I see your ship specs?
And the enemy's too if you have them.
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This is my latest design.
Which is horribly useless against these FAC. They're way too small to target.
Maybe one day I'll design a ship that isn't useless.
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So, turns out that in MiscMods if you convert to a non-Christian religion every province you own immediately leaves the HRE, and every province you subsequently conquer gets pushed out too.
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>>70931443
And here are their FAC.
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How do I get the civie lines to get cracking delivering these orders?
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>>70928847
Shit,,,
France better hurry up with Brittany
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>>70931572
Don't worry anon, have faith.

The French might not surrender this time....
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>>70931443
You don't have any turrets on your ships?
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>>70932158
I didn't even realize.
Today is not my day.
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>>70931484
Did you just convert to kikery?
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>>70932525

Every Heresy I ever got went straight into Judaism, so I figured why fight it.
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>>70931635
go into debt or possibly lose a province?
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>>70932812
>abandoning your ally
Shamefur
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>>70932812
No.

Take out a million loans and fuck the russians up wit mercenaries.

Or just take your army to iceland and wait for France to finish.

You can do this anon...
>>
does anyone have that map of europe where belarus is a hand flipping the bird with eu headquarters in the fingernail and ireland is in a bunch of slices?
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Gettin real sick of your shit Morroco, every fucking game you blob into the Baltic. Every. Fucking. Game
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>>70933052
No but have some equally disgusting borders.
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>>70932972
>>70932883
Oh shit.
I decided to stick with France and I guess we won.
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>>70933268
Great.

Forward to victory friend.
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>>70925221
Only by knowing how far you have truly come are you filled with the true passion to strive onwards.
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>>70933268
>vinland in the eastern america region and not canada where it is the default name / where it actually was
Nigger what are you doing
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>>70933689
Go now. Go now and spread the Culture to Europe. Their fine white bitches be waitin for some BBC
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>>70933689
It's only 1500, colonise brasil / argentina before the portuguese / spaniards get to it and make a slightly, but not substantially blacker south america
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>>70933748
Not very creative with names and castille already got canada.
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>>70933268
>new denmark
>not naming colonies in the language of the country you're playing for maximum autistic immersion
Nigger what the fuck are you doing
>>
I lost a bet and now have to watch Hetalia or get a tattoo on my face, how bad will this be?
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>>70933932
You got me there,
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>>70933903
>castille already got canada.
I don't see what's preventing you from changing that, seeing as you are a scandinavia blob that's allied to france
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>>70933945
it won't be that bad
tattoos dont hurt that bad, and nobody will question a cross under your eyebrow
>>
>>70933945
Facial tattoos don't hurt as badly as some other spots so there's that
>>
Any one tried a Norse playthrough where you migrated to somewhere richer like Sicily?
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>>70934054
No I don't think that's ever been done. At all. Ever
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>>70934013
Castille is allied with France.
I was already pondered the idea of attacking them once their first colony sprang up in canada.
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>>70933945
Heralia really hurts for a while but eventually you go nunb to the pain
>>
>tfw I accidentally made a unit retreat into enemy territory and get annihilated
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>>70934135
If you ally with austria and play your cards right in respect to timing, france is easy to beat. Not that you particularly wanted to or anything
>>
Is EU4 still shit?
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>>70934107
Yeah good one, just asking because people keeps posting their gay ass norse scandinavia and britannia play through #2134134
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>>70934358
yup
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>>70933827
Ah unfortunately they're already there, I think I'll work on securing my coast first anyway.
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What's your pick /gsg/?

I can never quite decide
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>>70934921
North
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>tfw
>>
In my last game of CK2, I started off as the Magyars and settled on claiming and keeping Hungary and Wallachia for my own. Then I decided to incorporate Bulgaria, Serbia, and Croatia as de jure parts of the Carpathian empire. I took over neighboring kingdoms and released them as independent ally states with non-inheriting sons in charge.

I let it ride for a bit, strengthening Carpathia itself and working on stabilizing the realm, and decided to take a look at western Europe... just to see that Tengrism had pretty much taken over Europe completely, and that the British Isles were now under Poland's banner due to inheritance issues with the Norse rulers that had already set up shop in there.

So basically, Catholicism was an endangered species. Realizing this, I bid farewell to my original dynasty (which currently held Italy, the German and Slavic states, France, Aquitaine, and the british isles) to depart to the spanish kingdoms, the only mostly-intact catholic strongholds left. I embarked on a hasty reconquista and retook everything to form the empire of Hispania, gave the Pope a holding in Santiago, and proceeded to rejuvenate France and Aquitaine as Catholic holdings. During this time I brokered a matrilineal marriage with the Basilieos of the dying Byzantine empire.

Fast forward a generation, and suddenly Orthodox countries are turning white all over the place. My daughter's son was made the Byzantine emperor and he retained his Catholic beliefs in the process. Basically, Orthodox Christianity completely died in the course of this game, Catholicism is holding on by a thread, and Tengrism is running roughshod all over Europe and fucking up the Muslim lands, which were all being encroached upon by the Miaphysites of East Africa.

How bad am I at Crusader Kings 2?
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>>70935986
Sounds like a standard 867 start CK2 game to me.
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>>70936218

It was my first encounter with how inheritance can really change things.
>>
What is /gsg/'s opinion of the current state of the Game of Thrones mod for Crusader Kings 2? I haven't played it since before they added Essos, and I know that the general opinion was low then, but is it any better now?
>>
both mediafire archives seem to be down. I presume the hebrews to be at fault for this.
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>>70936741
Haha it's been 4 or 5 days and the links still haven't been fixed.
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>>70936741
no they aren't down, a few OPs ago someone edited the links.
notice:
http://www.mediafire.com/grandstrategygenera|
>genera|
should be http://www.mediafire.com/grandstrategygeneral
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>>70936892
thank you
>>
Guys where can I see my aggression points in EU4 and how they effect me?
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>>70937179
EU4 is bad and you should feel bad for playing it.
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>>70934358
It's shit to the core mechanics so therefore it will always remain shit. No point asking that question.
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>>70937271
>>70937179
GS are all bad and you should all feel bad for playing them. What you should be doing is shitposting in /gsg/, it's a much more productive use of your time.
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>>70937305
so i can't even see it? can't find it in any of the fuckin menus
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>>70937342
Fuck off and go defend a shit game elsewhere faggot.
>paradux made it therefore it's gud hurr stop shitposting
>>
What would your ideal GS be?
>era
>scale
>etc
>>
>>70937394
era: ancient world - today
scale: depending on the time, like CK2 until the 15th century, then shifting to a more nation based paradigm
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Fuck me, I've gotten so lazy to the point that I just make the mudslimes convert instead of replacing them.
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>>70935059
How is the opinion still +100? That huge tyrant negative isn't outweighed by the "crushed a major revolt" positive.
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>>70937389
>hurr it's not exactly the same as EU3 fucking paradox in charge of good games
I think it's fun. I'll admit, it does have flaws and there are things that I would change but it's not a terrible game by any stretch.
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>you'll never die beside your brothers in arm fighting as a mujahideen
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>>70937608
Fuck off retard I'm not having the same argument with you again. Just eat shit and die, you subhuman piece of fucking trash.
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>>70937654
>tism
>>
>>70937654
Okay buddy, whatever you say. You might want to calm down though, it's just a game.
:^)
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>>70937550
>Most of Sinai is uncontrollable
>Lots of Sahara coloured
wat
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>>70937632
>you'll never kill mujahideen
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>>70937771
Welcome to SWMH, enjoy your stay.
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Stupid game is stupid.
>Manage to occupy all of my much bigger neighbour country
>can't annex
>can't vassalize
>can't divide it up into smaller vassals
>can't force a personal union or change of government
is there even a point to playing when it's so restrictive in nationbuilding
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>>70937771
>Sahara is a bustling land full of different people and nations
>Sinai is uninhabited desert
SWMH in charge of logic.
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>>70937803
People still play that retarded shitty mod?
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>>70937780
infidel detected, enjoy hell
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>>70937878
Still better than the vanilla map.
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>>70937915
No. No its not. Not by a long shot.
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>>70937780
>shooting at civ from drones is more preferable than fighting side by side with your allies

typical lardtech shill
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>>70937951
Pretty sure that's a helicopter.
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>>70937632
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuQfOjFiHsc

assad the lion shall prevail
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What do we reckon will HoI4 be like?

One thing is sure, it can only go upward from the ungodly mess that is the third installment in that series.

Also the division design mechanic seems really cool, that mana "muh abstraction" bullshit kinda scares me tho...
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>>70937572
-32 goes into positive.
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>>70938043
yeah okay, keep assassinating people for being related to terrorists with your fancy drone you fucking cowards
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>>70938079
>Star mana
It's gonna be EU4 tiers of shit
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>>70938212
Okay
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what makes eu3 better than eu4?
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http://rt.com/news/166092-iraq-militants-mass-executions/

next stop, Israel
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>>70938485

Jesus christ, that's fucking terrifying.
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>>70938535
No mana

No 3d map
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>>70938674
>rt
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>>70938212
>implying it matters how they die
>>70938742
you know what you could do is copy and paste iraq-militants-mass-executions/
google it and use what ever fucking site you want moron
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>>70938803
Yeah but why are you going to PutinNews of all sites?
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>>70938803
the keyword here is "combatant"
during combat there is no question, it is justifiable to kill
If on the other hand this "enemy combatant" is not currently involved in violence, but let's say he's sitting down to dinner, it is not justifiable to waltz in and shoot him.
If the enemy combatant has his hands up and is in the act of surrender, it is not justifiable to shoot him.

basically as I see it if the "enemy combatant" is not actively engaged in combat he must be given a chance to surrender. all else is murder without justice and this doesn't even to speak to the problem of "collateral damage"

drone kills are equivalent to assassination.

it does matter how and when the enemy is killed
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>>70938738
mana?
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>>70938079
I thought it was going to be good, but then STAR MANA
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>>70938891
hownew.ru
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>>70938891
aka Ruler Points
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>>70938879
Agreed. This isn't apprehending a criminal or capturing the enemy, it's straight up blowing his ass up while he's going to get grocery. There is no trial involved, he doesn't get a chance to fight or seek the help of an attorney. There's no warning at all. We don't roll up in a humvee and attempt to corner him him, we just kill him. For all intents and purposes, it's a planned assassination- death from above.
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>>70938954
fuck i mean Monarch Power
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>>70938954
that administrative/diplomatic/military point crap?

point taken that is annoying
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>>70938535
>>70899261

To summarise, mana system is beyond fucking retarded and THE most awful mechanic introduced in all the Grand Strat games up to date and nation forming and other decisions are underwhelming as fuck. Technology research doesn't feel like research at all.

AI is even more retarded and alliances are fucking broken, with AI nations desiring absolutely everything they border and becoming your #1 enemies overnight despite being close allies that would help each other for hundreds of years simply because you now have a border with them. Sometimes they'll have 200 friendly relations with you and not even have a border and suddenly fucking drop your alliance for no reason and mark you as a rival.

Diplo-annexing is OP as fuck, giving you cores like it ain't shit and making it impossible for the lesser partner to refuse.

Overextension mechanic is fucking ridiculous for making your 500000000000 province 100% hegemonised empire fall apart due to "overextension" for conquering four new provinces, to revolts not even happening in the newly conquered provinces and unrelated to the matter which caused the overextension.

Despite this, "aggressive expansion" is ridiculously fucking broken as you can blob as hard as you fucking want and the AE penalties will be fucking minimal with whatever friends you have.
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>>70938803
Are you aware of double tap?

America kills it's first target based on intelligence.

People naturally then come to help those buried in the rubble of the attack.

America circles the drones back and kills anybody helping survivors based on the assumption that they must be terrorists.

That's basically what drone strikes are. Death by assumption.
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>>70939152
Oh yeah also
>>70938738
Fucking atrocious clay map.
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>>70892464
There's no way. Only republics can hold towns without penalties. Retarded, yep. And even if you have the Republic DLC and turn yourself into a republic by losing every feudal holding but still holding a town, you lose the game instantly.
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>>70939152
>>70939272
Jesus Christ. 9 "fucks" just in that. This is what just thinking of EU4 does to me.
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>>70939152
Mana is pretty shit, and nation forming would be better if they all gave cores like the Prussian one does. AI randomly dropping alliances is a lot better now, I've had AI desire quite a few of my provinces but because we've been long term allies they're a lot less likely to break the alliance. Diplo-annexing now eats up a shit ton of points for anything other than OPMs and costs a decent bit of legitimacy. Overextension is fine, it stops you blobbing uncontrollably and conquering all of europe in the first 10 years. Go play EU3 if you want to do stuff like that. Aggressive expansion is also fine, way better than that shitty infamy system where going over some arbitrary number suddenly made everyone hate you and get a CB on you, as if european nations would care what you do as an asian nation in the 1500s.

Watch as the only reply is insults and hurr paradroneXD. This general is shit, I'm going back to the steamgroup.
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>>70939886
>this general is shit, I'm going back to the steamgroup.
lel, it's only shit because people like you (from the steamgroup) come here and post shit like that. Do the world a favor and kill yourself paradrone.
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>>70939629
Protectorates are shit
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>>70939886
>AI randomly dropping alliances is a lot better now
No it isn't. It's much, much worse. The EU3 equivalent of friendly/cordial/trust/etc. took much longer to shift and influence, so nations which you were a loyal ally to for hundreds of years, helped out in every war and in every struggle were much more likely to remain BFFs for the remainder of the game and this bond wouldn't be broken even with a shared border that would stretch the entire continent. EU4 on the other hand is random as fuck and within a 50 year period the trust level between me and a nation I go out of my way to help in every instance would shift drastically dozens of fucking times and sometimes they'd just drop alliances for no reason, as in they do it despite nothing fucking happening at all, only for me to reload the save and the alliance lasting another 10 years 'till the nation's next bipolar freakout.

>Diplo-annexing now eats up a shit ton of points
You mean those points that are absolutely fucking useless to a nation that doesn't constantly trade and colonise, the one that would diplo-annex other nations in the first place? Whoop-de-fucking-doo.

>Overextension is fine
You're a fucking idiot.

>it stops you blobbing uncontrollably
My brandenburg game where I could core provinces in just 5 years and completely disregard the emperor with piss easy claim fabrications says otherwise.
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>>70940305
The new OE does not prevent blobbing, it just makes it more tedious and instead of letting you go on one war and get lots of territories from the massive conflict against a certain nation after which you chill out for a hundred years or so, you just gotta go to war once to cripple it, then go on 50 more wars grabbing one province each and coring them in between truces. That's not additional challenge, it's additional tedium.

>Aggressive expansion is also fine
Oh so previous point you try to belittle me for being a casual blobbing retard that can't handle a challenge and here you are complaining about infamy being too harsh?

And no, it wasn't an "arbitrary number" that once you passed suddenly "everyone" hated you. Going into the yellow zone already made people hate you and your enemies at that point would plan wars against you the moment your troop count goes down. Red would make other nations besides your regular enemies hate you. Going over the limit would guarantee everyone attacking after you wage another war. Going far above the limit would give you nasty events. As a game mechanic and as a logical hstorical mechanic it made much more sense than AE.

>Watch as the only reply is insults and hurr paradroneXD
Don't need to. You've already proven yourself to be a massive fucking faggot with that as is.

>This general is shit, I'm going back to the steamgroup.
please never come back.
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>>70931567
I read on the wiki somewhere that you can subsidize them, which gives them 1000 wealth each time you press it.
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>Messalians can marry their daughters
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>>70940305
>>70940591
>writing a long ass reply to steamgroup shitters

Just ignore them.
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>>70940809
>>70940591
>>70940305
>>70940214
>>70940016
>>70939886
>>70940809
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>>70940809
It's something I had to do eventually so I could just copy paste the next time the topic comes up.
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Is there any way to use the console to force an end to a war?

I'm playing Vickymod and yet again Britain is at war with an imaginary China. It's not for anything since they already own Hong Kong, it's just this weird war that exists in the void.
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>>70941251
you could edit the save and delete the war.
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Blobby vassals are blobby. Sigh.
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Is there any better way to learn Aurora? These tutorials on the forums are just mind-numbing
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>Every fucking time

I wish there was some option to just auto-refuse offers of fuel.
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>>70942682
I used this guy's let's play. He's pretty entertaining and you can learn the game, too.
/playlist?list=PLpVUxdiS7yw8r36noD0kxn6n_iIuGHNt7
Anyone else know if there's a way to auto-recall ships once they go past deployment time?
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>>70942661
Is that IMPERIUM ROMANUM in Ethiopia?
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>>70942997
or you could just automate trade like a normal person
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>>70943152
Nah. Egypt is as far south as it goes. That's some African faction.
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>>70943269
Yeah why not just automate the whole game while you're at it. Just start up a campaign, put it on autopilot, and go shitpost on /v/ or /vg/ while the game plays for you.
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>>70942661
>Danmörk
I laugh evertim

Fucking SWMH
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Guys what mods do you recommend for Vicky 2?

And hows thats HPM(dont remember if its really called like that sorry) mod is it any good?
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>>70943453
Just get Vickymod from the OP

The closest you'll get to a non-retarded mod
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>>70943453
the HPM guy has fucked off indefinitely, it hasn't been updated since he released it.
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>>70943415
>hurrrr
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>>70943592
See? That's how you do it!
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>>70889598
This is why I play with FoW off
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>>70943585
Was it any good tho?

I remember there was a lot of hype over his mod.
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>>70943632
It adds some interesting stuff for Argentina, that's about it.
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That's Asia for you I guess
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r8 me map /b/ros
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>>70944372
WHAT'S THAT, EY?
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>>70925651
You know what to do.
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>>70944372
What kind of stupid name is Russian Union?
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Opinions? I'm also considering Gotland for dat Baltic domination.
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>>70944372
>Acre to Bolivia

??????

Its rightfully BR
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>>70944372
The neo-japanese union is probably the silliest one
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>>70944494
7/10

Needs more south Prussia and Schlessien.

No Gotland pls,you already got Bornholm
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>>70944608
Schlesien*

Fugg
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>>70944608
Fuck ?l?sk, I'm a Pomeranian, they are scum
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>>70944494
what map mod
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>>70944712
Thats why you convert them to your culture when you conquer them :^)
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>>70944774
VeT + Better Map mod
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>tfw ck2 is even more babby mode than eu4
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>>70944852
>tfw only like VeF because more events.

Map mod is shit.

I rather have flat map + extended map mod
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Dead thread
Dead genre
Dead napoopan
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>>70945301
and if you don't shut the fuck up, dead mayaka
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>>70944891
at least its fun. You can add some difficulty to it by roleplaying instead of minmaxing.
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>>70945443
I was simply remembering the lost /gsg/ modder Napoopan and his waifu
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>>70944372
>Intermarium
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>>70881952

Second ever game of CK2, gonna play as Castille and push the mudslimes out of Iberia.
Tips/ general strategies? Should I unite northern Iberia before I move against the mudslimes or do I ally the other northern iberians until I'm strong from taking mudslime land then move against them?
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>>70946248
well, in 1066 everyone in northern iberia is of the same dynasty so you'll be allied to them anyway.
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>>70946248
I prefer to unite since I can do it easily and it takes care of rivals that are just waiting to stab me in the back.
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>decide to try a HRE game as Austria
>try to stop people from nipping off bits of the HRE
Jesus christ, the hordes are endless
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>>70944891
> I judge games purely by how difficult they are.

You're supposed to role-play, m8. I can't imagine how people can play the game without getting a new leader, checking his traits, and then editing their objectives and playstyle to match. This shit ain't Risk.
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>>70910817
>German side of family descends from a small village near Posen
>tfw it's no longer part of Germany
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How come everyone here plays plebian EU and Vicky? why doesnt anyone play HOI? and if they do, why Darkest hour?

It feels like im the only one here with enough autism to play HOI3
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>>70947254
HoI3 isn't that hard. It isn't fun either. It's way too predetermined given the setting
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>>70947254
HoI3 isn't hard, it's autistic
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>>70947254
Because the same shit happens every time.
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>>70947254
HOI3 is just like Victoria. First you blob into neutrals/uncivs and then start dismantling everyone near you.
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>>70947341
i'm not saying its hard, i just find when i play it i micromanage more than any other game i've ever encountered.

>It's way too predetermined given the setting
i beg to differ
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>>70947406
And so is EU and CK2 ;_;
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>>70947396
>Because the same shit happens every time.
not really, and you could say the same for EU or Vicky

>>70947406
yeah and good fun is had whilst doing it except the military aspect is actually enjoyable not just spam numbers of "infantry, artillery and cavalry"
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>>70947254
HoI3 is a piece of shit, rotten at its core. It's not hard, you just need autism for all the micro bullshit.

>division designing/building
>researched superior firepower oh boy, time to spend an hour organising my army again
>stupid retarded ai
>naval warfare
>railroad
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>>70947254
By the way does anyone here play HPP?
Fixes a lot of the broken ass events in HoI3. Imo it really makes you want to do the same decisions as the leaders back then. In vanilla you do whit like the great purge and attacking pearl harbour mainly because 'lol why not?'. But HPP forces you to make these decisions (massive dissent in the USSR until great purge, actual oil-problems as japan etc.).
I know this sounds like i´t would still play put the same way but every decision has a plausibilty factor for the AI. For example I saw poland give in to the german demands of Danzig or war and they didn't start the war until 2 years later (with a focus on Fall Gelb by the way)
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>playing 1948 scenario
>arab-israeli war
>this gonna be good
>tfw israel annexes palestine 3 months in
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>>70947698
what gaem
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>>70883640
Heavy ships are shit for blocking ports, throw down some lighties
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>>70947727
guess, just guess
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>>70947727
East vs West
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>>70947727
North vs South
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>>70947810
>>70947826
W-what is this
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>>70947810
How the shit did you get a leak, that's not a dev screenshot
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>>70947810
How the fuck did you get this
HOW HOWW TELL ME PLEASE HOW
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>>70947810
I KNEW IT WILL HAPPEN
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>>70947810
Ok so were do I get it?
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>>70947810
w-wait
i dont remember this screenshot being posted
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>>70947570
>>70947613
Say you had the chance - how would you even design a proper GS that isn't just eat the small fish, go for the big and get bored when too powerful? How would you stop players from blobbing without making it super boring waiting 100 years for something while you are researching

So far in the previous games the somewhat good concepts were
CK2 - characters and events, Victoria 2 - factories, newspapers and spheres, HOI3 - preparation for combat(actual combat is shit), Europa Universalis - colonization, coalitions and the idea they had behind the trade DLC
But will it even work together?
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>>70947810
HOW
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>>70947810
EAST VS WEST LIVES IN DEATH
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>>70947987
It would have to have a really good ai. Or maybe work well in multiplayer.

The things that hoi does wrong the most are really combat and designing your army. That's what got me hyped about hoi4, division designing looks based as fuck.
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>>70947810
link plz
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>>70947810
You're not going to tell us are you

fuck you man
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>>70947810
Why can't you just let it die in peace?
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>>70948115
And what will good AI bring to the table?
Unless you'll play as a great power you won't be able to grow and as a great power you're likely to be stopped at some point..

Maybe the technological advancement should be random based on how much you invest in each part of your education system and research funds. Something like EU4 technology but with sliders and random stuff that can only be discovered once unless they are simple or a lot of years passed since another country got it and then stolen by countries who didn't get it yet
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>>70947810
>I guess I haven't been on gsg for long time, just quick look if there are some new releases
>See this

This is just some kind of elaborate ruse, r-right guys?
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>>70948323
It looks legit. Cant find any dev ss like this on paraplaza
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>>70948357
I just want to download it..

Maybe if the Multiplayer on it works we can use Hamachi and connect to create our own servers
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>Everyone are waiting for >>70947810 to post link for EvW leak

im waiting too
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>>70882106
HERESY
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>>70947810
Zoom as far as you can into liverpool, take a screenshot and then post a picture
Just as proof, you know
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>>70947810
>tfw it doesn't wan't to open for me
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And so we wait..
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>>70947987
A challenging AI and a good combat system which actually makes you require actual planning if you want to attack a smaller nation.

Every Paradox GS makes blobbing ridiculously easy. Even in games such as HoI you can just throw troops at any smaller neighboring nation. If the AI actually took advantage of your mistakes to turn the tide around (and the combat system allowed this) then people would blob a whole lot less.

Imagine if you could actually lose the winter war as the Soviet Union.
>>
it will never happen

he will have it only for himself
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>>70949216
But that would mean Total War levels of actual planning, good espionage system and deploying decoy units
Really good AI in the current state of GS is just no fun allowed game over by first conquest
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How are Aurora and Distant worlds?

I want a spess gsg but I don't want spreadsheet simulator.
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>>70944494
Don't listen to the faggot
>>70944608

That looks great. Ally up with either Riga or Lithuania next and help them integrate the other for an East Baltic bro with sexy as fuck borders. In the future if I felt like spreading out more I'd go with conquering the green outlined territories.
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>>70949663
Hmm, going into The Hansa definitely sounds appealing, controlling Lubeck would be very useful. I'm afraid both Lithuania and Riga are too weak, Smolensk formed Rus and is raping them.
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>>70947810
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>>70949649
sounds like Distant Worlds is the game for you.
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>>70949812
Yeah but unified it would be a pretty decent ally. Considering how retarded alliances are int he game an alternative would be to vassalise one, conquer the other, and sell the vassal the provinces. This is what I loved to do in EU3. Instead of making massive blobs myself, build a nation I like, stick with it, then shape the rest of my neighbouring region by vassalising nations and conquering provinces for them. In that game for example I'd first build up those green borders, vassalise Lithuania, conquer the rest of the blue outline, sell those provinces to them, then vassalise Cologne and build another West German vassal ally by giving them Wurzburg, remaining Hansa, Munster, Trier, Hesse and Mainz. then I would probably make a third one in South Germany. Shit's a really fun alternative to just mindless massive blobbing, through not sure how fun it is and how well it goes in comparison to EUIII.
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>>70947810
>Posted hour ago

Im not sure he will post the game.
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sorry guys, just wanted to talk to people who i needed to talk to (consider it defconning up to the nukular missiles)

here have some kebab removel while you wait
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>>70950115
You will post the game, right?
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>>70950052
He could be an official Paradox dev / mod / whatever who's been dispatched to hint that EvW has been uncancelled, but doesn't have clearance to explicit state so.

So basically, he's deliberately being a giant cock-tease.
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>>70950115
Invade Turkey as Greece.
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>>70950219
Oh fuggg! I may have been righd :DDD >>70950115
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>>70950202
i will, just want to check over a few things before i throw it out there.

wouldn't want people to get fucked over more.
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>>70950301
Yourself included.
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>>70950301
Can you tell us how you got it?
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>>70950115
dude
pls no joke
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>>70950301
>i will

My HEART stop my HEART
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>>70950301
Don't post it faggot.
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>>70950301
I don't believe it.
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>>70949649
Just read tutorials for Distant World on their forums. The most confusing thing in the game was for me economy, it appeared to me completly random, but after some time i got it, and it;s pretty simple.

the Aurora IMO is outdated, I mean it's engine. I had problems with instalation, and then problems because my locale isn't english. Also the interface is confusing, and you must spend hours to get hang of it. It was too much for me. But game looks so fun, it's a shame. I'm waiting for Aurora 2, IF it will be released.
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>>70950115
>>70950301
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>>70950526
twinkie house
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I PRAY TO YOU OH MIGHTY PIORUN, GIVE US EvW
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>>70950625
This is god damn amazing!
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>>70950625
It's sad because everyone here know that it's not habbeding but act as if it was.
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>>70950301
I wonder if the game is workable enough that we can pull together a modding team to fix it.
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>>70950625
HYPE
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>>70950625
evwfag again, i just noticed that spy is 3 years old.
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>>70950625
i just want to play as FRG and Anschluss tym

;_;
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>>70950625
What cores does Hungary have?
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Even if it is the evw leak it's going to suck because the game won't have been finished and it'll be broken as fuck.
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>>70950769
we can work on fixing it over time
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>This thread
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>>70950769
We have the technology.
We can rebuild it.
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Where can I download Godslayer?
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>>70950804
This


>Inb4 a band of /gsg/ers mend together a completye working EvW with based settings and events
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>>70950625
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>>70950869
I think that kind of project is exactly what the lazy ass modders need to get some motivation to kick it up a gear too.
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>>70950839
ONE VISION
ONE PURPOSE
EVW LIVES IN DEATH
TECHNOLOGY OF PEACE
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>>70950839
>/gsg/ finishes Paradick game
>Paraducks lurking /gsg/ pick the finished game up and start selling it as their own finished version of EvW
>Pracunts make massive profit off the work of /v/ rejects

le happy Johan face.
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>>70950764
hungary only iirc.

sorry for the slow but my internet just doesn't want to cooperate :(
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>>70951059
Who cares.

We get the game early.
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>>70951059
As long as we don't post it on their forum they don't own our code.
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>>70950625
POST IT
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>>70951083
>for the slow but my internet just doesn't want to cooperate :(
OH SHIT JUST GOT SERIOUS
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>>70951083
>sorry for the slow but my internet just doesn't want to cooperate :(
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>>70951059
This is why an ex-dev of the game is making screenshots and uploading a version for us to work with. It's all part of the plan. Bloody brilliant if you ask me.
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>>70951083
timestamp it now !
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>>70951083
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>>70951083
>hungary only iirc.
Man, we are going to have to really hit this game hard.
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>>70951083
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>>70951083
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>>70951083
What start dates are there anyway?
We should try and make political maps of what nations have cores in certain areas to correct how fucked vanilla will likely be.
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Time for me to burst your bubbles.

You virgins don't know shit about hardcoding or progamming. Fixing EvW isn't just about softmodding a bunch of plain text files like your shitty /gsg/mods. The game was unplayable in its last state, which is why it was cancelled.

You are all getting yourselves hyped up for nothing. You are all a bunch of unskilled NEET virgins who spend more time raging on an anime imageboard about a shitty steam group rather than master any sort of skill that would be remotely useful in an EvW restoration project.

Jesus Christ, it's like you're really a bunch of 13 year olds.
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>11:55pm
>have exams tomorrow
>need to sleep
>know i wont be able to sleep because ill be wondering whether or not EvW is posted
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>>70951420
1946
1948 (Oy vey!)
1950
1961
1979
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>>70951442
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>>70951442
;_;
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>>70951525
I suppose 46 should have the most focus from the modders, but what do you guys think should get the next most focus?
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>>70951083
Show us the country selection screen
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>>70951442
And then there's this guy.
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>>70951582
because i am a humongous fagface that cant prepare before throwing screenshits on 4chan i need to rar the folder up.

i will fetch it after rarring.
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>>70951083
how many % ?
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>>70951442
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>>70951442
/gsg/ confirmed for blown the fuck out
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>>70951580
62, during the cuban missile crisis. Mutual nuclear destruction is a pretty interesting scenario
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>>70951442
Someone should screencap this so we can post it when we have a barely working fourth of the game in 2050
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>>70951726
>when we have a barely working fourth of the game in 2050
>being this optimistic
calm down son.
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>>70951580
1979, big time.
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>>70951442
fuck off dude, at least we have fun
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For Hearts of Iron 3, what is a good fleet composition?
I was thinking of 3 carriers and 6 light cruisers per fleet. Does that sound about right, I'm fairly new to naval combat.
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EvW guys, what we need to do is take a page from KR and make a metric fuck-ton of events and decisions for every country, so that it doesn't end up being a blobfest.
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>>70951972
shut the fuck up

its not going to happen
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>>70951935
>No DD
>No CA
>No BB
What's your nation, and are you playing any mods?
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>>70952035
>yfw actually happens
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>All these virgins getting excited for a cancelled game that hasn't even been leaked
>Already talking about fucking "Fixing it"
Jesus the cringe
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>>70951935
You need more screens, else your carriers will get shot to pieces. Add another 4 light cruisers, then two light carriers. That's a fairly effective fleet composition.
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
IS IT HAPPENING
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>>70952181
you're late to the bait party

>>70951442
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>>70952035
What's with the attitude, m8?
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>>70952441
It's probably Johan
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>>70952181

>people who anticipated a game would like to see it released and are willing to try addressing its problems
>the cringe
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someone wanted a country select screen?

tis the least i can do to tide you over
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>>70952663
>Arab-Israel war

There really is a god
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NEW THREAD:

>>70952752

>>70952752

>>70952752
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>>70952663
This is either an elaborate ruse or really fucking happening.
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>>70952663
Post the rest
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>>70952663
damn it's pretty
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>>70952663
What's that
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>>70952663
Welp, colour me convinced now.

>Double country names, especially the United States of America in their german Sector
Goddamnit Paradox, what were you doing
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>>70952232
So, 3 carriers, 8 light cruisers and two light carriers? That sounds doable.

I'm playing as the UK in a few days, and before you tell me that I'm an idiot for not going down the battleship line, I'm in a fairly unique situation.

It's a multiplayer game, and the four players are me as the UK (Competent at land-based combat and air combat, but fairly new to to naval combat), friend one as Italy (Semi-decent at land based combat, clueless at air and naval combat), and friend 2 and 3 playing Germany and the USSR respectively (Never played before ever, relying entirely on advice from me and friend 1).

Hence I'm not worried about navy operations in the North sea vs Germany, only in the Med against a person who actually knows what he is doing. So I want carriers rather than battleships because the chance to back up my fleet with naval bombers from the Uk is going to be limited in the Med.

Am I making the right choice?
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>>70952938
Yeah, thats pretty retarded
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>tfw can't hit d1 60 lp today because of EvW leak
not sure if I feel good or bad
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Where the hell can I get Veritas et Fortitudo mod without logging on that goddam paradox forum?
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