- Cloud Strife from Final Fantasy VII is now available as a downloadable fighter.
- Corrin from Fire Emblem Fates is set to arrive as a downloadable fighter sometime in February.
- Bayonetta is set to arrive as a downloadable fighter sometime in February.
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>Sky hasn't commentated yet, that means that he will most likely commentate the entire Top 8 for Smash4
hot~! There is almost no good Sheik art, nsfw or otherwise. RIP my waifu.
But that was fucking retarded.
I can understand Nairo can just Flip Kick away if he ever finds himself in a bad position while in the air but running circles around his fucking shield like that made me shake my head.
Mario main here. Should I make my c-stick for tilts or smashes? I keep using smashes when I mean to use tilts.
Don't SMASH your analog stick when you mean to TILT it and maybe you wouldn't have to ask this dumb question.
It happens when I try to be fast though, I can't help it.
Don't have them bu they're nothing special.
It's mostly Nairo taking a first stock then trying to style on him, then Hyuga regains momentum and you know Nairo.
Tilt the slick slightly but quickly instead of slamming it like a caveman. It's something you have to make a conscious effort for until it's muscle memory, you could just set it to tilt stick if you want but it's not impossible to throw out tilts fast.
He's from somewhere in New England. He played Nairo in GF of the last SKTAR and barely lost, he's really fucking good and looking way better than Nick Riddle or Remzi or any other ZSS that's not Nairo.
I've seen Earth beat Rain, Marss beat Earth,
but The Moon will never play sm4sh seriously and beat Mars
>tfw finally getting consistent with my footstools on marcina
My friend plays Lucina and hates getting jab locked, it's really fun.
Any good webbums from the tournament?
>that's why they call it a tilt
That's the second time in these last 24 hours.
It couldn't have been a read, he was too far away for that be a read. Maybe it was intended to be a read but Nairo wasn't that close behind him.
It's hard to say anybody is playing better than Nairo because Nairo could be playing godly one second and losing to Hyuga the next.
>FOW vs Ranai tomorrow
Man, I would root for Ranai here, but holy shit FOW is fucking scary.
>ZeRo vs Dabuz
Hurr easy win for scarflard
>Larry vs Void
Fuck. I like then both. Dunno who to root for.
>Marss vs Nairo
Nairo better not choke this.
He was spamming up-b but in a smart way, he always choose stages with plataforms so if he failed he would just land on the plataform and not free fall to get punished.
when he played on FD he almost never spammed up-b, other good thing is that his movility was incredible, dude was hard to catch
I want to be salty about Hyuga but i can't because Marss played really good, good shit.
Earth is a pit player from Japan. Rain is a sheik player from Japan. Marss is a ZSS player from NE. The Moon is a (mainly) Melee Marth player from NY
still hoping to get a few more from the last few melee matches
>Larry vs Void
Literally SoCal every week
>villager vs ness
There's a reason why japs think so low of Ness, they excell at edguarding him
And vs villager? the best villager in the world? FOW has no fucking chance whatsoever.
The more I fight and see Pikachu's UpB the more I think it's just a suicide move for Pikachu
>Genesis is defying logic
>Logic drowned in pools
>Genesis literally defied Logic
Vegas guy here, FOW has plenty of matchup experience with a really good Villager in Hino.
Also, he's almost definitely going to bring out Falco against Villager. His Falco is really good.
Or you know, he could just drop a bowling ball on his face.
because sakurai thought that a passive charge move that cannot be interrupted charging and applies to every special move was balanced on a character that swings around a small car and calls it a sword
better question: why does dks giant punch put him in freefall when cloud can fire off side b in midair literally all day despite it being a far stronger kill option with like 5 times the active frames
PLAY 2 WIN
>get up at 6 on a Sunday for a local
>shitload of people deconfirmed over the night
>would be 8 people including me and the 2 I'd go with
>we decide not to go
Fuck guys, I'm disappointed and mad. I guess I'll have 6 more hours to play video games now.
The act of stalling, or intentionally making the game unplayable, is banned and at the discretion of the TO. Stalling tactics include but are not limited to becoming invisible, infinites, chain grabs, or uninterruptible moves past 300%; or abusing a position in which one player’s opponent can never reach them. Any action that can prevent the game from continuing (e.g. freeze glitches, disappearing characters, game reset, etc.) will result in forfeiture of that match for the offending player. Players are responsible for knowing their own character, and must be wary about accidentally triggering these effects.
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No need to be so sadistic anon, but judging how Ranai was gimping Fox it will happen
I, for one, welcome our new anime swordsmen overlords.
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Why are Little Mac mains the faggiest people on the planet?
>taunt after every kill
>leave after winning once
>Always named Pedro and have shit connection making it impossible to fight back
I think it's because if they let someone have more than one round, they'll adapt and then the Mac players can't do anything.
>Why are (insert name here) the faggiest people on the planet?
Says the frogshitter. Fuck off.
Why does every Cloud player on FG lag? If they can afford to buy Cloud why can't they afford a decent internet connection?
you mean wobbles
cause theres no real way to enforce "no chaingrabs" without making a >that kid rule
like at what point do you limit it
2 grabs? thats stupid, a huge part of spacie matchups involve stringing grabs due to their fallspeed and the low throw knockback in melee
death? you mean to tell me that if someone gets comboed to death the other person should be dqed, really
and >that kid aside, where does the combo end, melee doesnt have an onscreen indicator
and even if it did at what point is the combo truly over, 1 frame after the string is over? because thats effectively still a combo, theres no real way to properly act in that window with most characters so youre still pretty much dead so youre not making the game any more fair for anyone
that shit just cant be properly defined in a way that players can actively avoid doing it without negatively affecting their whole playstyle
the only thing thats really banned like that is luigi ladders in doubles because its easy to define and complete bullshit
there's nothing that says wobbling is or should be illegal, or that it's not an integral part of ICs game
there's also nothing that says I can't root for a player who centers their game around wobbling to get completely embarassed in top 8
Dammit. This happened last time too, oh well.
Nice top 8. Basically rooting for anyone besides Armada, Ice, and SFAT. I'm tired of seeing Armada winning and dont give a fuck about either Ice or SFAT.
Obviously though itd just make my day to see Axe/Pikachu win a tournament of this caliber. Him and Nintendude are the underdogs here.
stalling is enforced at TO discretion and pretty much never happens since nobody is fag enough to want to take a stock to 900 from infinites
even if it were to happen at most youll get a nudge on the shoulder and someone telling you to knock it off and play
and shit like planking doesnt ever get you in trouble because it is legitimate if theyre playing a character that cant force you off the ledge or refuse to approach in general even when you have the lead
its generally just a rule so that it can be enforced should the situation ever arise from an unknown character/team tech that wouldnt be specifically covered by situational bans
Honestly don't even know who to bet on for G3
>Hbox stomps everyone at Dreamhack
>Armada on a rampage
>Leffen catching up
>Mango pulling a tryhard win from his ass
>FOW stops going to tournaments because he's tired of Smash
>Decides to play Splatoon
>Decides to enter G3
>Sadly think this is good but won't get far
>Gets to the Top 8
Not only he's a fun streamer, he's still a good player
I know /ssbg/'s opinion on Cloud, but what about Ryu? He seems pretty broken with his light attacks into Shoryuken that kills pretty early. His extra tilts give him options for a lot of situations.
holy shit real talk this is why everyone hates Smash 4 players. you new smash kids come around with your 1 to 2 years of smash experience with less than 10 tournaments and you complain about characters.
spend less time typing and crying and get good and stop acting like a fucking pot filler.
where were you when Mango ended Nintendude's existence
Mango nation fucking wants this. Tomorrow will be insane whoever wins.
You actually need a pretty good computer to have a good stream, one that can run dolphin is good enough. I remember trying to stream on my cheap laptop and it heated up and was barely at 360p 30fps.
oh thats gay
I do have a good PC at home but I dont want to lug it around to stream random weeklies and smashfests, I'm not super serious about getting into streaming but if a decent streaming laptop isnt too much then I'll look into it.
Oh wait MVD uses Diddy
Who was the guy who used duh cunt at that one tourney with the Yoshi and Logic's Alph and Jason Zimmerman the true mewtwo king of all super smash bros video games' DK
>lose a mew2king
>gain a vinnie
mite b cool
>If Vinnie manages to become top 10 in Melee it would be worth it.
>Wasn't he a godly Sheik player in Smash 4 or something?
Vinnie is a Brawl baby dude, he has very minimal Melee experience unlike some other Smash 4 players who were actually pretty fucking good at Melee before moving onto Smash 4 (Zero, Larry Lurr, M2k if you want to count him, Nairo, ESam, etc)
I am getting a PS4 simply for
Gravity Rush 2.
What does this have to do with Smash Bros
Is mediocre as fuck and gimmicky
I guess theres that, Bloodborne, and that one paper game but thats fucking 3 games dude the Wii U has like 20 games that are all fucking GOOOOOOOD and exclusive
i'd absolutely love to be able to play melee, but i don't have a CRT laying around or any melee discs
falco does seem very fun though but i'll never abandon my main in smash 4
at least i have tekken
Ggs Chronos. Was neat to fight all your characters again. Thanks for the set.
>Tink, Pittoo, Junior, random button
No, but I do make Sm4sh videos
>tfw dedede main
>tfw just got out of a vs ganon game just like that
>Random button, meme man of hype and fire punch
Ggs Chad. Was nice to fight your Wario after Lord knows how long. Thanks for the set.
>main meta knight
>usually have an easy time, up air to up b execution pretty spot on
>he doesn't use his projectiles whatsoever
>he just sits there and jabs
>can't fucking approach at all, his jabs always interrupts my dash grabs
>can't tell what he's gonna do since he barely fucking moves, and whenever he does he never dashes, only walks
>jabs 1-2 are too quick so he can just dodge or shield whenever
>can't approach from above since his up tilt has insane reach, is pretty fast and covers literally his entire body, all my moves get either perfect shielded and up tilted or shield grabbed
>got two stocked and he only used jabs and grabs to rack damage
how the fuck? It shouldn't be this fucking difficult to approach a shitty link player
because metaknight's neutral game is fucking shit and he knows it. Most shitty MK players will do either two things and that's a dash grab or a dash attack when they come running towards you.
You just fucking suck
It's the "scrub effect."
There's a certain meta involved with competitive, or "competitive," play, and when you suddenly face someone who breaks that meta it can throw you off. This has affected multiple top level players in multiple fighting games for ages.
You could also just be bad. I don't know.
Bowser, Little Mac and Shulk (may change that soon)
No Waifu or husbando but like Sakaki from Azumanga, she's nice.
so you're telling me the key to fighting against MK is to barely move and use quick jabs to counter his dash grabs and dash attacks, literally his only two good neutral options aside from down tilt?
>dash grabs, dash attacks, and down tilt are his only good moves in neutral
>only 3 moves, the rest are situational and relies on the opponent to fuck up or be stuck in end lag otherwise it's too unsafe
don't fucking get me started, why is meta knight so fucking bad in 4?
Two more for dubs needed.
Just do things that are not expected from X character
the link probably does that to everyone
everyone sees link oh boy projectile spam coming and then there's that fucker who doesn't then you get mind broken and cant adapt
Are you fuckers excited for 64 Top 8?
You can weave the dash attack in between the delay after jab 3 and him being able to put up his shield. If he doesn't do jab 3, you don't need to approach.
He's not. Source: Abadango, Ito, the fact that someone as shitty as me is able to do decently with me.
Pac-Man, Villager, Mega Man, Iggy
yeah but from that other post it's pretty clear the link the meta knight player was fighting against was very aware of the jab 3 lag, and only opted for jabs 1-2. He probably only did 3 if the first two actually connected and he wanted to push meta knight away.
Then he had no reason to approach. More importantly, he could easily run up roll behind then grab or dash attack or tilt. Fuck I'm pretty sure drill rush beats jab if he refuses to roll behind or shield.
Real talk, how aren't people bored of the same 13 year old game?
>It has DEPTH!
You sure you're not just autistic or stuck in the past?
None of the characters he often plays have a real good matchup against ZSS so he'll ditto.
He said once on stream that he thinks Dark Pit has a good match up against ZSS, but that he doesn't need to use him because he is the best ZSS. Regardless of the actual truth around the match up, that's what he thinks.
>being better than me then taunting unironically
Is being better than me not enough you F*CKING F*G
>Dark Pit has a good match up against ZSS
I don't see how that can possibly be true.
Maybe it's because he's a ZSS main and his style of play has been what defines most ZSS players so it's like fighting an imposter.
Shulk's works in exactly the same way as Cloud's. It'll snap at the very start of the move if you're almost right next to the ledge, and after going into freefall, but not on the way up. Pressing B makes it take a little longer, only because of the time it takes to deal that second slash
>fixing his recovery
>implying it's broken
Sure I'm up for dubs. Got to test that new connection.
"If you repeat something often enough it becomes the truth, desu" - Daisy Duck, 2069
>been shut down
But that's actually true, isn't it?
As a Mamuifagfag™, stop spamming him and making me look bad!
THE HACK FRAUDS ARE LATE
WHERE'S MY STREAM
64 top 8: https://smash.gg/tournament/genesis-3/brackets/10665/4402/17669
4 top 8: https://smash.gg/tournament/genesis-3/brackets/10619/4412/17868
Melee top 8: https://smash.gg/tournament/genesis-3/brackets/10617/3861/15834
A character is not dishonest because they have a combo. Mario still has to play neutral and learn how to convert, characters like sonic or Rosa are just dishonest autopilot characters
He's one of the few characters with actual combos and kill moves but if you're not bad you won't fall for them since they all involve a grab or you rolling into them.
Golf is more exciting.
>unfair risk/reward ratio
His frame data isn't THAT good.
>Cloud or Sheik
Well yeah, I can see how those characters are dishonest.
In the hands of good players it can be very hard to get in on those characters since they can be so safe in the neutral.
But back to the main point, Mario really isn't one of those characters he's just a normal good character with decent everything. Well rounded and above average.
I don't get why people want every character to be Lucina.
The match starts. Captain falcon dashes towards you. The numbers on the timer read: 00:00:94. Captain Falcon sets you up with his infinite supply of combos. Maybe its Dair --> Nair --> KNEE or Uthrow --> Utilt--> Forward B--> KNEE or maybe even FALCON PUNCH--> KNEE if he's especially pumped that day but no matter what, two things always happen. First off, always ends it with a KNEE and secondly, he always ends it.
But what exactly goes into the car battery KNEE of captain falcon? Its a truly "electrifying" account.
The electricity produced by the KNEE of Captain Falcon completely destroys his opponents. He summons an insane amount of voltage that numbers 10^1337 power. He mentally calls forth electricity from Zeus' personal thunderbolt stash, every rubber balloon and wool factory, 58 Raichus, and a generator the size of Jupiter. He compacts all of that power into a small, concentrated hitbox on his KNEE. Captain Falcon doesn't stop there though, his KNEE joint is the densest fusion of bone ever recorded. His KNEE bones are so hard, when he didn't tie his shoes as a kid, he tripped and the place he fell at is known today as the Mariana Trench. But before any of this happens, Captain Falcon must take his approach...
He steps, a small earthquake, he steps again, another earthquake, step, earthquake, step, earthquake, step, earthquake, leap! The earth is pressed down slightly. The KNEE flies toward you! CONNECT!
You die. Your adventure ends here. No continue for 5 coins and your score getting cut in half. No other options but to start reading the book again and hope that you choose a better adventure next time through.
Captain Falcon's KNEE: The Only Tier
>Don't really know at this point
That's why I don't really know at this point.
>Why would you need a secondary if you play Cloud though?
Because Cloud actually has bad matchups and there's the possibility of going up against somebody who knows how to edgeguard you.
yeah once people start seeing how good cloud is, we'll start seeing more of him
>kills with fsmash or any limit move at 100%
he's gonna be top tier for sure
Good games, sorry about the short set but something came up.
he IS top tier already, he's easily Top 5
I can see why you think that but it really comes down to neutral. You probably play against people that aren't your skill level.
Who would you say is a bad MU for Sheik?