/dsg/ - Demon's and Dark Souls General

i have seen this look before

I HATE THESE FUCKING GAMES

Is it just me or are blueberries generally terrible at fighting?

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xth for 4queers sucks dick.

>>128833774
Why?

>>128833915
Yes, basically.

>>128833915
Their whole covenant is based around ganking, what did you expect?

Deep Space 9 is better than TOS, fight me

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8th for post your characters

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>>128834051
Here

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Hew guys, Menas here. Anybody wants a commission? Here's my latest work, impressive, isn't it?
Of course, I'll give you a big discount, not only in honor of DaS3 being right around the corner, but also because you're my best buddies from /dsg/ who helped me to improve my talent a lot with their constructive critique and friendly support, and now I'm a very popular and pespected artist in Souls community.
So, feel free to ask any time (no 4skins requests allowed, as you can see of course).

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>>128834051
My summoner killcount is at 2 in the last hour, pretty solid

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>>128834051

>>128834354
>he does it for free

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>>128834051
Finished my Artorias Cosplay, Shield included
Should I join the Forest Hunters?

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~Canon Souls Husbando Tier List~
(in order of appearance)

GOD TIER:
Dark Sun Gwyndolin
Solaire of Astora
Oscar of Astora
Sir Artorias the Abysswalker
Kirk, the Knight of Thorns
Everlasting Dragon
Great Grey Wolf Sif
Manus, Father of the Abyss
Hawkeye Gough
Black Dragon Kalameet
Oswald of Carim
Seath the Scaleless
Fume Knight Raime
Velstadt the Royal Aegis
Havel the Rock
Laurentius of the Great Swamp
Dragonslayer Ornstein
Ivory King
Creighton the Wanderer
Lautrec of Carim
Bell Gargoyle
Marvelous Chester
Royal Sorcerer Navlaan
Vendrick

COMPLETELY ACCEPTABLE TIER:
Ancient Dragon
Siegmeyer
Mild-mannered Pate
Domnhall of Zena
Old Iron King
Frampt
Executioner Smough
Big Hat Logan
Kaathe

GET THE FUCK OUT TIER:
Everyone else

With 30/30 I want to infuse my stuff with dark for the most damage, right?

I want to use a Heide Spear, but I hear I should infuse it with Lightning. Why?

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>>128834571
>no Black Iron Tarkus

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>>128834051
Powerstancing straight swords with a hidden grand lance. Living the life

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>>128834051
Here's my ghetto ass nigga

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>>128834051
My character looks like shit right now 'cause I haven't gotten very far. I'm going for a caveman shaman look.

What are some active PvP areas besides Iron Keep and the arenas?

I've heard that there's one in Brume Tower somewhere, but I'm not sure where(not quite there yet)

>invaded a fatrolling sorcerer (in light armor) who ran across the entire map to heal after getting to low health
that was hilarious

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>>128834051
I need to get better rings. And better miracles.

>>128834673
Its some autistic spammer, you don't take them seriously.

>>128835668
Man, Heide's gear looks so damn slick.

>>128835738
Heide Sword should have been a greatsword instead of the toothpick it is now.

>>128834571
>God tier
>Dark Sun Gwyndolin
Stopped reading there.

>>128836027
Heide Sword is pretty much Mini-Claymore. Just use a Claymore. Looks great with the armor.

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>>128834051
here she is

knight

i just died in sens fortress for the first time in years and i am very embarassed

What's the soft cap on Vit in DS2?

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>>128834051

Is it worth getting points in Dex with Roaring Halberd due to the pretty decent Dex scaling or just get the bare minimum, infuse with Dark and go to town with 554 AR?

Can someone explain what power stancing is to me? Is it just you two hand your left handed weapon instead of your right handed weapon? What's the advantage to this as opposed to just swapping between the two on your dpad.

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>>128834051

>>128836806
NEVER UNDERESTIMATE THE FUNHOUSE ANON

>>128837034
No, power stancing requires that you have 1.5x the base stat requirements of both weapons and that they be powerstance-able. It gives you two new moves on the L1 and L2 that are often really fucking cool.

>>128837034
Power stancing is dual wielding, you get access to different moves. If you press triangle you will two-hand your right, if you keep it pressed you will two-hand your left, but if you have 1.5x the requirements of the highest of your two weapons you will powerstance.

Share your invaded by shitters stories

>go to dragon shrine to farm drakekeepers
>invaded by arbiter spirit before I even leave the bonfire
>wait for him to come to the bonfire
>start fighting
>he gets hit very bad by two nacho UGS combos without landing a hit on me
>runs away towards the mobs
>starts casting great heal
>go to the other side of the bridge and wait for him to come
>throws three lloyd's talismans at me for whatever reason
>gets a few hits on me, but his pattern becomes too obvious
>parry and riposte with the nacho UGS

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Any suggestions for a Ronan build in Scholar?

>>128836817
12

>>128837208
Arbiter spirits are such fucking baddies. How can you uphold justice with such a weak will, Blues?

>>128837135
>>128837192
Oooh I see, thanks a bunch.

If I don't have Scholar of the First Sin can I talk to Aldia? I'm on 1.10

>>128837398
Yes, he was patched into the base game

>>128837208
>Invaded by giantdad meme man in forest
>"Well, What is it!"
>parry the fuck out of him since the Zwei has an extremely easy to parry moveset and all he did was mash r1
>proper bow

>>128837490
Awesome. What the fuck took From so long?

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>"DaS2 probably won't have DLC and will ship as a complete package"
>the most DLC out of any game in the series
>"We've made scholar of the first sin, which includes all the DLC but also makes some balance changes to the game."
>if you own all the DLC already you have to pay twenty five fucking dollars for a ring to be in a different location or an annoying enemy moved (oh you don't like being shot at when you spawn at this bonfire? pay up shithead)

Fucking jesus christ.

Does anybody playing DaS2 actually have a build? Why the fuck would you? Just level up everything and use random weapons in the arena.

>>128837680
I'm pretty sure he was patched into the base game before Scholar actually released, though I may be mistaken. Either way, 1.10 is Aldia's addition among a few balance changes, if I remember correctly

>>128837770
I already had the DLCs, and while I agree it's kinda jewish I do prefer Scholar to the original version of the game

>>128837770
Can you complain? Playing Dark Souls 2 was the funnest, most satisfying time of my life. I spent thousands of hours on it and I'm glad I did.

>>128836195
>Fat Knights
Lay off the Estus for a while

>>128837770
it was jewish as fuck, i make no excuses for how bullshit it is but i love this game so much i paid for it all like a good goy

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>>128838034

You know, I'm really glad they are making this game "louder". Enemies in DkS1 and 2 barely make any sounds compared to DeS and BB.

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>>128838034
>wanting to say something about this but realizing you did the same fucking thing with TF2

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Oh shit I'm actually getting gravelorded sweet jesus

>>128838410
MAKE THE SINNER SUFFER

I haven't paid attention to DaS3 news at all. Are you guys hyped for it? Have you been hearing good things about it or things that make you think it'll be another DaS2 travesty?

>>128838034
I felt that way about das and still do. I find das2 to be extremely dull in comparison.

>>128838679
Cool.

>>128838637
I don't know why you would think it'd be like DaS2, from the looks of it its basically going to Bloodborne but as an actual souls game.

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does spider have pusspuss?

>>128838034
i'm sorry for you anon

>>128838637
I don't think Miyazaki would mess it up since the game's getting attention because he's back as director.

remind to dont feed the ''ds2 is good'' troll.

>>128838078
>fat knight

nah dude, thats that large lower body physique for that thiccness

>>128838906
Bloodborne had a lot of really poor design choices, though, and the base game had only one good boss.

>>128839008
fat

>>128839025
wew if bb had only one good boss ds2 had 0 good bosses lol

>>128839129
Velstadt

>>128839249
you mean garl vinland 2?

>>128839129
DaS2 had the Darklurker, Velstadt, and arguably the Smelter Demon.

>>128839321
Nothing alike

is hating ds2 the new cool thing to do

i bet when ds3 comes out everybody will say it's shit and that ds2 was much better
seems to happen in every single general with constant new releases like this

>>128838798
The spider's lava puking mouth is the pusspuss.

>>128839359
its literally the same guy with the same weapon but taller

>>128839404
Can you fug it?

>>128839425
The boss fights were nothing alike, though. And a big bell is much more interesting than Bramd was.

Although they are similar story wise, and both are intended to make you feel shitty when you kill them.

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>>128838494
[CAN'T WAKE UP]

>>128839249
>Velstadt
>Good

surely you jestin. He's basically another big mace enemy like the guys in Heide tower who'll occasionally use a hex.

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I can't fucking do it.

Can someone help me kill ng+ gwyn? PC sl 116

I've spent over 300 hours playing the same pve content over and fucking over again, my character has FaP ring and soft capped vit and end, but I just get fucking immediately mowed down. I am ultimate shitter, and I need YOUR help. Will some kind anon assist me?

>>128839360
Zelda syndrome. DkS3 will change a lot and will alienate hardocre DkS2fags and DkSfags will not like it because it's not exactly like DkS.

>>128839670
If they make asbestos and tungsten condoms then sure, I guess.

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>>128839360
Because people call bloodborne shit and say DaS2 was so much better, right?

So im now in the Dragon Shrine, whats with these smaller guys that dont attack? I got all the way up to the small guy with two swords on a long stairs and die... well i got super far im done for now but you know...
Somethings been bugging me, In dark souls 1 wasn't the curse because of certain events and shit? What really is dark souls 2 about? this bonfire guy wasn't in the normal ds2 right? so you had even less story content about what was going on? this guy is just talking about how men were always cursed and how he wanted to break fate but what? what MADE the curse and what is it? what the fuck is the back story behind this world anyway?
could i maybe get some recap up to where i am? I know im trying to break the cruse and fate but what started it and whats the story behind it? In DS1 it was just effecting a city that was intrapped in fog right? What is the world like in ds2?

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>>128839129
so thick the armor clips, dam

>>128840094
I think they changed it so they don't aggro until you talk to the Dragon on top and get the key item.

>>128840050
Bloodborne is shit
>trophies kill immersion
>have to travel back to the dream to fast travel, doubles loading screen time
>generally being unable to rest at the lantern to reset the enemies in the area for farming
>R2s were made less viable in an attempt to homogenize them as slow, wound up attacks to be used in stealth scenarios, combat becomes more simple
>bosses getting stronger at the end of the fight can be poorly executed, such that they aren't even a threat until they've lost two thirds of their health
>health regeneration for retaliating after taking a single hit means you mash on R1 whenever a weak opponent manages to hit you, and cleanly killing minor opponents is no longer encouraged
>fewer ambushes and beginner's traps, walking around in unfamiliar territory feels less scary than in Souls games
>because firearms cause stagger parrying is extremely low risk
>durability was changed to how it was in DaS1, DaS2 implementation was better because durability became a meaningful stat and not an occasional chore
>blood vials heal extremely quickly, disastrous for PVP and trivializing a lot of bosses who fail to aggro appropriately when you step back to heal
>weapon viability in PVE varies wildly
>quick stepping makes it more advantageous to play locked on which is less fun
>many bosses are large enough that it's hard to see exactly what moves they're telegraphing, leading you to wail on them and use blood vials when you get hit
>chalice grinding in shitty, samey areas to make weapons PVP viable
It was also really fucking easy. Gehrman was the only good thing about the base game.

>>128839771
As much as I like Velstadt, he really didn't make me feel shitty for killing him. I didn't really feel anything for killing him. Garl was different, partially because you could watch Astrea kill herself

>>128839930
im pretty sure summoning another person will just make him have more health and do more damage

just equip the buckler or parrying dagger and git gud at parrying, gwyn is a good time to start learning

>>128840240
i aint gonna read all that shit but i think you can turn the trophy notifications off

>>128840196
Fat Knights are not welcomed

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Where do I go from here, /dsg/? Should I toss some points into INT solely to not have such a piss-poor magic defense?

>>128840451
not fat, just eating like a knight should 8)

werent knights historically a little fat from all the feasting and eating?

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Fuck
What a pity

>>128840547
Nah, they would work it off wearing all that armor, fighting, dying, etc.

>>128839360
>new

>have to travel back to the dream to fast travel, doubles loading screen time
>generally being unable to rest at the lantern to reset the enemies in the area for farming
This and the framerate killed this game for me.
im playing dark souls 2 and its really.... meh lorewaise and what the fuck you are doing wise but the content is good and is 60fps and at least has the game working right and is not limited down.
Bloodborne was rushed just as much i hear or even more based off of the content and how loose the story is but at least its better in that regard then dark souls 2 which is completely fucking soulless when it comes to lore and characters.

>>128840674
whatever, everyone ive ever seen from medieval times was either fat or famished

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>>128840320

Did it, thanks anon your suggestion was all I needed.

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>>128840212
They don't aggro at all as long as you fight the Drakekeepers one-on-one. Run away from a fight or summon a shade and they aggro.

>>128840981
u did it

I have a feeling everyone will like Dark souls 3. miyazaki is controlling it and im sure (since its the last souls game and he said its ending the world and story) that its gonna be polished game play wise and have even better lore than dark souls 1.
Dark souls 2 as im playing 45 hours in is a fun game but it doesn't make any sense, the story and lore that is. I hear every line that the green girl speaks was translated wrong from japanese and also that her lines were cut in half.

>>128839771
>a big bell is much more interesting than Bramd was.

hm no using a bell as weapon is just retarded and weird

>>128839360
just accept that ds2 is bad.

>>128841116
Jesus Christ, how horrifying

Imagine if DaS2 itself had as much effort put into it as its soundtrack.

>>128841116
Holy shit this is retarded, I was gonna summon a shade for fucking help too... what the fuck were they thinking. The last fucking guy is not fair at all, my spells do shit.

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>>128841269
>sacred chime hammer
>retarded and weird

>>trophies kill immersion
wtf
>have to travel back to the dream to fast travel, doubles loading screen time
nothing wrong with that
>generally being unable to rest at the lantern to reset the enemies in the area for farming
why is this even a bad thing? its a seconds thing
>R2s were made less viable in an attempt to homogenize them as slow, wound up attacks to be used in stealth scenarios, combat becomes more simple
i give up you are just baiting and this is low quality bait

>>128841464
>nothing wrong with that
Is this a fucking joke?

>>128841662
Don't fucking reply to me again unless you're contributing to the thread.

>>128841662
i prefer this to
>you can magically go to any bonfire you have been before, all you have to do is sit on a bonfire, and a screen with pictures will appear to you select what bonfire you want go travel with fast travel

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Who wants some data for their DaS1 autism?

>>128841849
So instead you prefer to jump through hoops to achieve essentially the same result

>>128841849
Good thing you're not in charge of making the games.

>>128841849
Its pretty shit from a game design point of view and very annoying when you already have to deal with loading times like it was a psx game.

>>128841849
That's literally the equivalent to Bear Seek Seek Lest and it's fucking tedious

>>128840196
what mods are those?

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>>128841930
yes, i like going to nexus in des, and i like going back to the dream or whatever is that in bb and seeing whats new.
>>128841996
the loading times have like less than 10 seconds, i played BB before the patch and the loading screens had 1 minute, THEN it was awful. everytime i died i had to stare to a screen writen ''bloodborne'' for 1 minute. it was hell. But now its fine.

>>128842140
its not 1/100 as bad as bear seek seek lest. its not like its pre patch like i said in the reply above. instead you go to a comfy place with you're waifu and is super quick to select the new area(you dont have to walk to the other side like in demon's souls)
i'd rather have one more quick loading screen than having to hear that for the brazillion time again

What is the most overrated Souls-type game?

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>>128840240
>It's not exactly like dark souls so it's SHIT: the post

Seriously if those reasons are why you think a game is absolute shit I can't imagine you enjoying any game.

>>128842636
DaS

Not that it isn't great. It totally is. But it's overrated as well.

>>128842382
http://www.nexusmods.com/darksouls/mods/814/?

http://www.nexusmods.com/darksouls/mods/275/?

http://www.nexusmods.com/darksouls/mods/446/?

>>128842561
>seeing whats new.
almost nothing new happens in BB's hub. Sometimes you catch the doll praying, sleeping and sometimes you catch gehrman having a nightmare and crying and that's it, nothing else

>>128842636
ds2
>have better notes than ds1 and des
literally overrated

>>128842762
It's just a better game

>>128842636
On 4chan Demon's Souls is easily the most overrated.

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>>128841371
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, anon. Try parrying the guy, his attacks are pretty predictable.

>>128842561
If you ENJOY going to the hub area every single time, then you can do that as you please, but there's no reason for anyone else to have to put up with it

>>128842561
>its not 1/100 as bad as bear seek seek lest.

>bear seek seek lest lasts 1 second
>2 loading screens to change an area lasts 30 seconds

shut the fuck up already, go back to your /lucygen/

>>128842665
You are dumb as fuck. Most of that is true other than the R2 complaint and not all firearms cause stagger.

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>>128842716
but i like the doll >_>
>>128842708
you dont really need the texture pack to make the game look good, just raise the internal res. pic related is not using hd mod.

>>128842816
heres your (you)

>>128842891
you still have to go back to majula to level up and go to blacksmith, and to go there and then go back to whatever you were are 2 loading screens. while in ds1 you could just do everything in a bonfire.

>>128842948
>1 second to say bearer seek seek least
no thats like 3 seconds thats worst than 30 seconds on a loading screen reading a item description

>>128842891
Dark souls 2 didn't have good level design for any sort of hub area. Not enough shortcuts to make it viable

>>128843073
i raised both the internal res and use the texture pack

it didnt impact my performance so i dont give a fuck

>>128843073
>>_>
>>>/vg/bbg get the fuck out of here

>>128843174
this mod was giving me sluttering in new areas and the loading screens were a lot slower

>>128843217
nice meme

If you like BloodBorne you need to get the fuck out of this general. This general is for poor people who can't afford PS4s

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>>128843609
what if i played in the ps4 of my cousin

>OP pic is related to my question
neat

can I kill Nito before returning to Firelink and still find Rhea alive? I need to buy her miracles before she gets killed, but I don't know if
>If you clear another area instead of immediately going to the Undead Parish after rescuing her:
includes killing Nico as "another area"

>>128843609
I have a ps4 and bloodborne and don't really like it. Can I stay?

>>128844301
Yeah you can stay, but only if you admit that DaS2 is better than Bloodborne

>>128844561
They're equal to me.

>>128844710
you should try to play bb unironically

>>128844832
I literally platinum the game today.

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>>128843929
answer turned out to be yes, I can kill Nito and she's still alive.

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first player kill for this character was a laggy br, at least it was a decent fight

I wonder why I hate The Gutter more than I hated any of DeS's world 5, or DaS's Depths+Blighttown. The Black Gulch is so short that it doesn't matter, but The Gutter is fucking awful

>>128841464
Literally none of what you said in response to his criticisms defended the points he attacked
You basically just said that you didn't think it was a big deal
All of the things he brought up are flaws in the design of the game, its valid criticism

Augh.
Farming for the Insolent Armor is a pain in the ass, especially when you can't git gud enough to ng++.

>>128845251
>all the worst parts of Tomb of the Giants and Blighttown
>NPC invaders
>damn near impossible to find your way around
>occasional bumps in the landscape cause you to fall
>fuckugly
>no boss
It's no mystery.

>>128845621
I have the gloves and helm on my 1.75M PC character, if you'd like them.

>>128846163
>>all the worst parts of Tomb of the Giants and Blighttown
How?
>NPC invaders
Only two, one is if you go in a side area, and the other is if you light all the torches.
>damn near impossible to find your way around
Torch.

I don't get it. Is Fire Whip just a longer duration Combustion? It doesn't seem to extend anywhere at all. Why would anyone use this spell?

>>128846163
>>128846540
If I didn't need to kill an Asceticed Rotten, I'd skip The Gutter and Black Gulch by Soul Memorying past Shrine of Winter like a faggot. It's just the worst part of every playthrough I do. Shrine of Amana doesn't bother me like The Gutter does.

>>128846268
It's just the armor I'm missing.

Which sucks, because I was gonna go for a Solaire of Astore cosplay.

>>128846661
It can deal mad damage to unsuspecting players who think you're casting combustion and try to roll through it.

>>128845251
>>128846163
The Gutter >>>> Tomb/Blighttown.
They figured out everything what was wrong with those stages and avoided it when designing The Gutter.
All the platforms are straight and wide. There is no curvy ledges and narrow paths with holes like in Tomb of Giants, it's much easier not to fall now.
It's dark, but you can light fire to mark spots you've already visited. It makes navigation and exploration so much easier.
No dead ends and alternative ways to reach the same location - you're either progressing to the end of the stage or you'll return to one of the platforms you've already visited.
Since devs knew you're going to hold torch in off-hand all enemies are piss easy.
Stage has no enemies with heavy attacks which can push you out of the ledge. There is absolutely no need to roll (and die), you can block everything with shield.
No toxin snipers. No ambushes. No annoying flying enemies.

Just be slow and use fucking torch. I loved this stage. Black Gulch on the other hand is the worst fucking shit ever.

New player here

How real-time are the:
>Player ghosts (not death replay)
>Death-stain player ghosts
>Soapstone messages

How many am I seeing? Is it a random selection that's capped at a maximum number? So if at launch 200 people were at Firelink shrine you can't see more than X many ghosts anyway?

Were there more messages/ghosts back when DaS1 was king?

>>128847663
Also:

When the game is dead, like nobody plays anymore, will there still be ghost recordings and messages to find?
Can "the servers go down" or is it provided as P2P through steam?

Fascinated by the psuedo-multiplayer and multiple worlds aspect
Not sure how much of it is either faked or intentionally capped

>>128847580
This nigga gets it. Gutter was designed around torch and fucking worked. Amana also requires torch and does everything in its power to prevent you from keeping one. Fucking cancerous worthless area.

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>guy pvping in Luna
>has Masterless Glencour summoned at all times

wow, what a colossal faggot.

>>128847926
Get fucked, Bellbong. Don't like it when YOU get ganked, do you?

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>brume tower
>room with 2 of those dual axe mother fuckers and a giant fucking fire giant
>archer shooting at you from back of the room
>another asshole on the upper level chucking bombs
>whatever the thing is you destroy with the pick gives out a buff that gives them all a shitload of poise and a health buff

why does this fucking exist

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How the fuck do I use Great Hammers in DS2 PVP

>>128847926
There's a lot of those.
Some of them have sunbros summoned at all times even though they're not even leaving the place.

>>128847989
If you don't wanna get got, maybe you should go for the boss.

>>128847989
I can understand if you're going for the gargoyles, but I've invaded this same guy three times over the course of like 30 minutes.

>>128848034
>>128848106
I don't give a fuck about Gargs. I just want to feast on your Bong tears. No chunks for you, cunts.

>>128847991
So you stop spamming R1 for a few seconds, take a look around and push a few explosive barrel carrying hollows down to clean up the room for you.

>>128848162
You're the same kind of person who camped the forest with gank squads back in DaS1, aren't you?

You're scum. Lower than that.

>>128847991
I found a strat to use when I had to grind for Smelter Hammer. Wear Cat Ring or Cat Pants, or Jester Pants and drop down through the trap door where that first gunpowder hollow is. As soon as you hit the floor, hug the wall behind you and run along it to the back of the room with the archer and Wedge statue (I highly recommend using a wedge). Kill the archer, and turn around to take on the other one or two warriors that may have aggro'd you, but try to stay in the back of the room as to not aggro the Smelter Hammer giant or get hit by the warrior up top chucking bombs. Kill the warriors and then lur the Hammer giant to the back of the room. Run past him during one of his attacks and pull the lever to the outside. Now that the door is open, you can cheese the giant as you wish, because he will not go past that door. Happy hunting.

>>128847580
>>128847823

you forgot the part where you have to jump through the dark over a fatal fall to get to the exit. you could actually walk through tomb of the giants and you could always walk down to the end without the possibility of the path looping back. even if you can see the torches as markers you can't see the paths between them.

>>128848260
Stay cring, Bong. You pathetic gray faggots do nothing but run ganksquads, but then cry when your shitter selves have to deal with one NPC phantom. Git the fuck gud.

>>128848241
they fell down into the room with me and all they did was wander around on the other side of the room the giant swung his giant ass club.

>>128848262
Thanks anon, that's actually pretty helpful.

Who the fuck actually fell in the Gutter constantly? The only time I fell there was because I thought I could make a jump to some treasure (the area were Melinda invaders)

>>128848692
I remember I saw a .webm of someone using CE to walk atop the small black void in the Gutter. Looked funny.

>>128848657
>they fell down into the room with me
Push them down ahead, don't drop with them or you'll get exploded too.
They'll blow up when fire giant pukes some lava on them.
Two of them will kill the giant dead, one will kill all smaller enemies nearby.
Use alluring skills if you want to move your enemies.

>>128848396
>one NPC phantom

with a zweihander.

>>128849751
What's the matter, Bongbabby? Can't parry? Cry me a river of chunks, faggot.

>>128848005
Bait them into dodging early then whirl around and flatten them.

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HOLY SHIT I JUST NOTICED

SHEATHS
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>>128850436

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>>128850436

>>128848005
1. Get some poise. Preferably 152 or more.
2. Learn to hyperarmor through people's shit to smack them for 1500 damage with 2hr1-2hr2 combo.
3. Learn to roll punish and to punish with roll attacks.
4. Learn to bait attacks.
That's essentials. Also things that help:
Use infused and buffed weapons, but switch them for pure physical if opponent has GMB.
Though you mainly want to use greathammers 2h since it's the only way to combo, occasional switch to 1h and baiting a parry or using a fast offhand helps.
Dragon Tooth is the best GH by far.

What level should I get vit, vgr, end and adp to in DaS2 assuming level 150?

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>>128850436
its too good to be true...

>>128851298
>vgr
20
>vit
Depends on the build, usually 9.
>adp
Enough for 92 agi.
>end
As much as you can get.

Can you just not pvp at low levels in ds1 without twinking the fuck out?

LOL

Me + Two phantoms

Stunlock Iron Golem for the entire "battle"

I kind of felt bad

I really wish there was more reward for killing NPC invaders in DaS2. Maldron the assassin is pretty interesting and kind of funny in terms of a fight but there's nothing you really get from killing him, and you can just go past him and slowly make your way down to Artorias' sword and he won't aggro.

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>bonging
>invader bows
>inner moralfag forces me to take my loss with honor instead of using my flask

WHY

NOBODY ELSE DOES THIS

WHY AM I EXTENDING THEM A COURTESY THAT IS DENIED TO ME

>>128851896
Moral highground when you win
An excuse when you lose

>i just found out about the 2nd bonfire in Izalith

what the actual fuck

>>128852421
A-team at its finest

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>>128834051

So I just checked into twitch for the first time in a while, and a streamer I used to watch fairly regularly has apparently gotten kinda big and is playing Dark Souls for the first time. Jump in to see what's up, the guy is hopelessly lost in Duke's fatrolling in full Havel's with a fucking lightning great club and pyro. I don't know if this helps or hurts my opinion of him.

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>>128852904
What SL is he?

>>128852421
In the little lava building? Come on, man, that's easy to find.

>>128852421
Before dragon asses got nerfed into oblivion it was actually god sent.

>>128852978

I would guess around 40 based on how he's geared at the moment.

I just noticed he also has the Wolf Ring on.

Naturally, he isn't human, either.

>>128853131
>wolf ring while in full havel's

fuckin

incredible

>>128852904
whats his name? sounds funny

>playing a mage
>in the depths
>get a trident

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UArbzOExaBg

>>128851619
Summons make bosses stupidly easy? You don't say.

>>128853318

the game is easy as it is. jolly cooperation can make it fun at least

>>128853318
Until you're trying to keep an NPC summon alive for their questline, then everything is 100x harder and they have the self preservation of kamikazie pilots

>>128852978
>>128853131
>>128853206

Holy fuck he's SL69.

I don't even.

Seeing dual wielding weapons blocking by crossing their swords over each other triggers my autism.

>>128852904
sometimes when I mess up and get staggered I think, "I should do a heavy armor build. Settle for medium roll, level end sooner than I have been."
But watching this guy slug around in Havel's is fucking painful.

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>>128834051

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I really want to like this shitty thing.
I really do.

Checked the steram too. It just reminds me how shit heavy armours in DS1 are. They gradually limits your mobility, you can't roll, evade or avoid anything. Yet it it gives very little additional protection compared to any light armour.

>>128854214
you and me both

>>128854239
I was just thinking about this earlier as I took off pieces of my robes so I could be at fast roll without havels.

I seriously wouldn't mind if you got more weight bang-for-buck from endurance in darksouls 3. I mean, I don't think you should be able to fast roll as a level one in the heaviest armor, or even be able to in every armor. being able to wear armor in your first playthrough sure sounds nice, though.

What if wearing very heavy armor made weak attacks glance off you, like the armored boars?

>>128854827
Even more backstab attempts.

>>128854827
I very much like that idea, but it'd be so hard to balance. If you wear this armor you're fucking invincible to this or that weapon? It's to much of a hard counter.

>>128855043
I'm thinking the wearer would still have to be susceptible to hitstun in order to balance it, but it would give them insurance against getting comboed by weak enemies.

>>128854827
>>128855043
If current poise is >x and the weapon deals <y poise damage, there is deflection, unique to armor.
So it's possible to have a bad armor with 1 poise that can deflect anything but will also stumble the user, and the poise needs to regenerate to deflect again.

Methinks.

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>Splintering Lightning Spear
>Only one spear can damage out of the 100s it spawns

Such wasted potential, imagine the carnage it could bring in Amana invasions

I've spent more time running all the way across Anor Londo archers, not even attacking anything you can skip all the giants and imps, just to get knocked off the fucking ledge again.
again.
again.

In the time i could have gone back to buy poison arrows ten times by now.

But no.

THIS TIME
THIS TIME
I will get lucky

THIS is the most bullshit part of the entire game, and I forgot how FUCKING BULLSHIT it was until I went to play through a second time.

Not the many deaths
The RUNNING ALL THE FUCKING WAY ACROSS ANDOR LONDO
FUCK

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>stuck at loading screen
>chance to get bunned if I alt-f4
Great thanks

>>128855735
At least it's better than the run to Allant.

>>128855906
>>128855735
Did the playtesters all beat them on the first try or something? I always thought they should have been closer to the bonfire.

>>128855735
Archers are a pretty good test of what the fuck are you doing with your build.
If you're a dex build you can use a bow and normal arrows to take a knight out.
If you're a str build you can smash a knight with a giant weapon.
If you're a mage you can spam them with spears.
If you're a VIT gouge you should suffer.

>>128855940
Allant is even more baffling because he's the only final boss to not be right next to an archstone.

>tfw just killed a Havelfag with my bare fists

Fuck why am I doing so poorly at Dark Souls II. I finished Dark Souls I with no difficulty at all, and in Dark Souls II they throw me in an area with three mobs that are immediately aggro'd with a fourth one that shoots arrow at you from a platform. And the more you die the harder it gets. What is this bullshit.

>>128856173
Build test or not, why the fuck is a "Roll a d20, if <20 you die" a whole 5 solid minutes of sprinting away from the bonfire

>>128856272
I bet he wasn't even using the dragon tooth.

>>128856317
he was using the Smelter sword

>>128856315
From asked the same question. They decided upon turning the concept into an entire level.

>>128856363
How shameful

>>128855940
if you lower the elevator, you can find a bonfire relatively closer. just run up the beam, once reach the top and take a few steps to the right, you will be invisible to the left archer. roll the first shot of the right one, then go up to him and parry him. if you cant parry, get the biggest shield you can twohand and put it on your right hand (otherwise you can twohand it). then just block the sword, eventually he will knock himself off.

>>128855735
Just cheese it with Hidden Body/Ring of Fog

I've spent so long running across andor londo to die at the archers (sprint past imps knock you off, spear in back, etc) (unlucky arrow) (bad timing) (bullshit clipping) (etc)
my laptop is overheating

fuck it I'm just going to turn on cheat engine and get past this point
Every playthrough I had poison arrows
I forgot and am too fucking pissed to run ALL THE WAY ACROSS THE GAME WORLD just to get some

>>128855735
Try parrying

>>128856552
SPEED HACK
SUCK A DICK GAME DESIGNERS

I AM NOT SPENDING ANOTHER HOUR AT THIS BULLSHIT

>>128856552
2 words, my friend
ayy lmao

>>128856294
Ds2 is faster. If a group of enemies attacks you, they'll all attack at once instead of some attacking and some circling around a bit and some hanging back and etc.
This also means they're incredibly, stupidly predictable. Every enemy will run up to you and start an attack, all of them, every time. That's what they do. Abuse that, win, and realize the whole fucking game is like this.

>>128856476
>a bonfire relatively closer
And every timeyou die you need to move the bridge down and then move the bridge up to continue moving. Worst bonfire placement ever.

>>128856173
>If you're a mage you can spam them with spears.
I can't imagine being able to cast spells between knight arrows.
I gave up on my sorc reaaaaaaaal fuckin' quick 'cause everything was too damned slow & missable to boot.

>>128855735
>>128856552
Can't you just hang out behind that big structure in the middle of the run until they lose interest, then keep going and the left archer won't notice you?

>>128856619
>speedyhacky up to the knight
>get melee'd off the edge because you missed your parry
:^)

>>128856715
better than having to wait for the elevator and run across the hallway. seriously though, people who act like >>128856619 and >>128856552 take themselves too seriously as players without taking the game as seriously.

>>128856776
>everything was slow and missable
you sound like you aggroed them the enemy then ran away, you pussy. the correct approact to this is HSM anyway

>>128857094
>Hsm
you mean fizzes out at the slightest touch of any doorway, wall, or ceiling that happens to be cramped around you at the time?
no thanks

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OH HI.

I HOPE YOU WEREN'T PLANNING ON ENJOYING ANY ONLINE VIDEO GAMES FUCKING EVER.

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA GET FUCKED FAGGOTS.

>>128856712
I tried so many times that like five mobs or something already stopped respawning and I lost all my souls because I don't know where to level up. Should I just start a new game?

>>128857410
If you want.
You level up at the lady looking at a tree near the coast in Majula. Between the bonfire and the big statue thing with crestfallen. She's really, really easy to miss.

>>128857303
>pass the first beam
>find a spot where the leftie can’t hit you
>wait for the rightie to shoot and dodge
>cast hsm
>go up and dont hug the wall like a pussy
wew lad

How did it take me this long to try DS1 crossbows? Oh waaah they don't scale, who gives a shit? A heavy fire crossbow with heavy bolts is 520 ar and that's completely fine.

>>128857303
HSM is fucking amazing, dude. One of the best things sorcery has going for it. Learn it, use it.

>>128857610
I was talking about in general but I can see how I was unclear about that

>>128857764
>HSM is fucking amazing
it felt finicky as fuck to me but I thought sorc went down hill after tarus demon
will eventually try it again, maybe I'll get better results on round two.

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>do parish invasions because I finally got a level 15 darkwraith for shits and giggles
>a couple of really good fights
>a couple of duos that would try to gang up (killed the host both times because he tried to heal)
>one that was afk so I waited and waited before crystalling out
>one naked blue guy running dual caestus
>then some fucker decked out in hell knows what, royal helm, fuckhuge axe, buffed yellow, man I don't even know
>dodging everything out of sheer necessity, backstab takes about 2/3 of his health
>he retreats, heals, I stab him again
>repeat process
>2nd time I drop a lava ball on his face as he's getting up
>get 27k something souls
>apparently he was 174

I'm not even gud, what the fuck
Invading parish is fun though

>>128858308
>>2nd time I drop a lava ball on his face as he's getting up
is this as bullshittingly effective as it sounds?

>>128850436
If it's like BB again, I'd rather not have them.

>>128858443
He was the first time I've done it in a long time, so I can't remember for sure. Sure seemed effective, though. I only did it because he started healing.

>>128858189
sorc lifts off after you free griggs and kill the hydra. honestly, i always thought pure sorc builds are boring, however i got one up to gwyn. i stand by my original opinion. imho, any point in int past 15 is worthless. you get GMW and GMS, a bunch of stealth buffs and utility spells, you can then focus on the rest of the build.
>>128858308
always dark hand afkers, then push them to some remote corner he wouldn't normally see and kill them there. also, parish is twink and twinkbaiter playground. i got better invasions as a level 1 in anor londo than in the parish

>>128858189
Gotta realize that intel isn't just about shooting soul shit at people. You've got a lot more shots than pyros and miracles, sure, but you still gotta get in there with your weapon.

>>128857503
Hm. Still worth it to not start a new game even when I used up all my life gems/stones (the yellow things that heal you)?

>>128859092
Those drop from most enemies. Talk to levelup lady to get your Estus Flask.

Be forewarned, it only has one charge when you first get it.

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Do we have any idea/indications as to how Dark Souls 3 will relate to the previous entries?

Mainly I'm just concerned if anything from Dark Souls 2 will be of relevance, because I never finished it, and didn't really have the desire to either.

I always had the impression that if it even references Dark Souls 2 it will be very minimal. It feels thematically much more closely connected to the original. Particularly with things like Miyazaki heading development.

>>128859275
>always had the impression that if it even references Dark Souls 2 it will be very minimal. It feels thematically much more closely connected to the original.

You'd be wrong.

It's pulling from 1 and 2 equally, whether you like it or not.

>>128859275
DaS3 will have as much to do with DaS2 as with DaS1.
Very little, just cryptic references. Hopefully without implied winky smiles.

>>128857764
has anyone worked out how bow/crossbow damage is calculated? i've heard some shit like the arrow/bolt damage being added to the bow/crossbow's base damage, is it true?

>>128858523
>If it's like BB again
Never played BB, what's wrong with it?

>>128859270
Thanks! Wow, it does take really long to take a sippy compared to Dark Souls I.

>>128859871
Capes clip constantly into back sheathes thanks to cloth physics.

>>128859092
I said "if you want." I would, but that's just me, and I'm boring.

>>128859275
Nothing that important happened in 2, so it's fine.
In summary...some guys tried to stop the curse, didn't work out. Manus exploded into abyss ladies who all looked for kings to hook up with for some reason. There's a time loop thing where the age of fire and the age of dark keeping going back and forth, with strong stuff like the first flame and chaos and the lord souls sticking around through it all. Seath is a spider.
That's it, I think.

>>128860023
You drink faster with more adaptability. That's a stat you want to level, because it raises your i-frames on rolls too.

>>128858914
that's how I tread it for sure but it felt like the spells were weak (if they even landed, lock on be damned - that monster moved an inch so you miss!) and melee suffered to try to make the shit spells better.
will probably do stuff like >>128858728 talked about when I go back for collecting all the sorceries. just treat it as supplemental as fuck and be a melee build.

>>128860334
>Seath is a spider.
You're dumb.

>>128860334
>Seath is a spider.
woah woah woah hold up
so you're telling me he went from no scales, to no legs, to EIGHT legs?
he's totally getting scales next. DaS3 Seath the Immortal confirmed.

>>128860217
if you got a back sheath and a cape, the cape should either be removed/rolled up or pinned between the sheath and back. but what i care most for is having a sheath for every equipped weapon. it really annoyed me that you get the sheath but only see the sheathed weapon in cutscenes unless you put it on your left hand and 2hand the right. also, the sheathed weapon disappearing was retarded on its own accord. it would also be really great if the equipped weapons/shields were piled or scattered close to you when sitting at a bonfire

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Is anyone stupid enough after all these years to not understand that Velka is obviously intended to be Priscilla's mother?

>>128860474
What shit spells are we talking about here? Basic soul arrow drops off really, really fast.
Dunno how melee could suffer unless you're not using an intel scaling weapon, in which case what the fuck?
I'd go faith if you want spells supplementing melee.

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>tfw we'll never be able to dye our fashion
It hurts, imagine all the possibilities

>>128850436
*unzips MLGS*

>>128860585
Holding A/X lets you sheath your weapon.

Word is that parrying costs focus in DaS3 and without focus you won't partially block anymore.
They build upon BB and DaS2 mechanics.
Did they fix parrying?

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>>128834051

>>128860663
Look, anon, I'm going to be really honest here. When I think about Priscilla I don't particularly care about her parents, I just care about how adorable she is

>>128861605
I know it's overused, but damn I love orange and blue.
I got a flashback to mwge morrowind.

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Post helmets and armor pieces you want to see in DaS3. Surprised pic related wasnt ever in 1 or 2 seeing its a pretty simple concept

I just hope therell be more armor sets than unlike Bloodborne

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>>128834051

>>128862801
Engraved Gauntlets only work with monk characters, pleb.

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>>128834051
Praisin' ain't easy family

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>>128862631
There's a lot they can draw inspiration from.
They can do variants of Polish armor or Teutonic Knights, lots of exotic armor potential.

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>>128863807

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>>128834051
ayo
>>128863032
Pretty sure monk characters should be wearing Smelter Boxing Gloves.

>>128862631
>herell be more armor sets than unlike Bloodborne
Well obviously since there's only one in BB + one bucket helmet.

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>>128834051

>at Iron Keep
>try to jump to the platform next to the bridge that you have to drop down to get to Smelter Demon
>character does the jump animation, but just slides off the bridge down to lava as if I had just ran
>can't fucking backstab the Alonne Captains because my character just fucking kicks to the side
>get hit a lot because of this
>panic roll and do two power stanced club attacks far away from an Alonne knight for some fucking reason, draining my stamina
>get hit even more
>clubs don't hit shit when I really need them to hit
>try going for the above-mentioned treasure again
>the same thing happens

what the fuck, this is the first time after clearing this area for the first time ever that I've had this much trouble

So I just finished my DaS2 playthrough and I'm really satisfied. I liked it way more than DaS if I'm honest. The fashion is amazing and there are a shitload of weapons I used by the time I was done. Of course it does many things worse than DaS but I enjoyed it more because of these things. The boss battles were also much, much better.
Also, FUCK Frigid Outskirts.

>>128834506
>Artorias
>holding the sword in the right hand
I know I'm 8 hours late but goddamnit anon.

>>128864623
I can agree with everything you said except for the boss battles, DaS has less but they're more challenging in my opinion

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Was this lag or something dodgy? Whole fight went like this where I was backstabbed from nowhere

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>>128864408
>sanctum shield

Is it a good idea to infuse dragon tooth for pve? Lightning dragon tooth seems pretty interesting

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>>128864787
This is probably just some russian using pre World War 2 soviet tech to run his copy of DaS2, don't worry.

>>128864758
Fair enough. I don't know if DaS1 was harder because I was in the CoC for the whole game, except for Fume Knight+Captain Alonne and the Ivory King DLC. The game felt piss easy after I left the covenant.

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>>128865008

Thought it might be, there was a few seconds now and then of him standing still far away then it would just flash into the backstab animation.

Anyone else create lowish damage poison builds for fun to make people panic?

It seems harder than I thought it would be to poison people online.

DaSII
Does the Cracked Blue Eye Orbs work, anywhere?

>>128865562
Yeah but unlike the CREO's you don't have a handy "Use it here dummy" thing on the warp menu

>>128865562

I tried last night for like 45 mins with the ring on just spamming blue eye orbs at the PVP hotspots and got nothing.

Which is kind of strange because when I invaded a few times at Earthen Peak I had a few blue phantoms jump in to help the host.

Alright I just watched the stress test and JESUS FUCKING CHRIST WHAT'S WITH THE SANIC SPEED THE CHARACTERS ARE LITERALLY SKATING WHAT THE FUCK

>>128866139
This my friend is what the DS1 fans call "weight" it is some kind of nebulous force that is good when it is applied to attacking animations during the windup, but not the active or recovery frames, and should be absent entirely during falling, rolling, moving and basically every other part of the game.

I'm dead serious here people are claiming that DS3 has weight to its combat

>>128866139
No equipment load during stress test

>>128865562
They work everywhere, ironically, since you can invade any location you've previously been to, starting with the area you're currently in.
You just gotta spam them and hope for the best.

>>128866139
for the test everyone was fastrolling no matter the equip load. i really hope they sped up walking without speeding the animation there will be no gliding in the finished game
>>128866314
i think he's talking about the asynchronous walking, not the rolling

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>>128866139
It's so fast you don't even see animations.
Truly weighty.

>>128866828

That's absurd, I seriously hope they slow it down a ton.

>>128866965
I do not.
When combat gets too slow it fucks up my rhythm hard.

>>128867021

Slowing it down a ton from "that" would just make it normal speed.

>>128866828

Jesus, that looks faster than BB

>>128867096
I know but "that" looks better than normal speed.

>>128867165

It looks like the fighting will be like Devil May Cry or Bayonetta

>tfw you kill someone as an invader, invade someone else just to see the person you just killed as a phantom
What a wonderful feeling

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>>128867380
>invade sens
>fool around the first beam, enough to bring their guard down
>go towards the phantom, he blocks, guardbreak him with black flame and oneshot him
>host runs away, then back up as i chase
>try to hit him, he rolls and falls
>plunging attack for style points
>minutes later invade the summon
>"disconnected from master of world"
ayy lamo

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>>128867380
>the phantom kills you

>>128855771
steveo kinda looks like a cute girl in this pic

Is Dark Souls 3 coming out for us PCucks on launch day?

>>128868116
yeh

Even though DS3 completely moved to next gen consoles and had a major "graphical update" it still doesn't have lighting system of DS2 demo.
In DS2 demo all enemies and objects cast dynamic shadows from your torch. But in DS3 torch doesn't produce shadows, it just makes surrounding brighter just like in release version of DS2. And even with that it's going to be only 30 fps on consoles.

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>>128865386
I'm not certain, but it looks like you are not wearing Sanctum Gauntlets and probably not wearing the rat ring. Also, Mytha's is not that great for poison, for good poison you need Spotted Whip.

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>>128867165
It skips animations like crazy.
BB didn't have the problem to such an extend despite being even faster.
Now watch how it looks with lag on top of the default skipping.

>>128855735
Did this for the first time tonight, first time playing. Ran, rolled, used force twice and made it. Felt good.

Good luck, anon.

>>128856173
It is a trek though. Waiting for an arrow shot to start the attempt helps, and if you have Miracles, Force works to drop right knight.

>>128868478

Im not wearing the gauntlets but I am wearing the ring. I wanted to have it sort of cosplay of predator, how much difference do they make?

Yeah I definitely need to get that whip but im not that far into the game yet. I did want dual manslayers but it doesnt respawn with an ascetic does it?

How easy is it to poison with the gauntlets and whip fully upgraded etc?

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>tfw when you get DaS3 in April you gonna get invaded by yellow niggers with a month of gameplay on them and twink gear

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>>128867792
is this an improvement? which is danker?

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>>128868828
>Red/White Round Shield
my nigga

>>128869106
The difference is extreme. An extra 50 poison, especially on the dagger, is required. Don't expect to poison in 3 hits, but it goes fast when you get some sweeps in. Also use the Stone Ring for the dagger to stunlock longer.

The average is about 4 slices and 2 whip hits for a poison. The trick I use is you hit them with the dagger for 2-3 times and then you do a whip hit. They get out of the stun, they roll, and as soon as they are out of the roll you hit them with the whip.

The fastest I have ever poisoned that way was 2 dagger hits and 1 whip hit.