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Bullying Edition

>Letter from the Producer LIVE Part XXVII
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/2f33323151437bd543ae8637766e0bd3c6d741ac

>The ”Letter from the Producer LIVE Part XXVI” Digest Released!
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/437d1bdcd6e7c3c5176adfbb2b0e787aee640175

>Patch 3.15 Notes:
http://na.finalfantasyxv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/86c483a5b15766c988ee8db15f4eda117b9d66e4

>Resources, guides, Free Companies and Linkshells:
http://pastebin.com/27YG1xjJ

>Previously on /xivg/:
>>128734657
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xth for thoughtful cats
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>lala OP
>its fetishy and makes me uncomfortable
okay im starting to see the anger..
least it aint babynut. never post babynut.
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First for getting dicked by 2* crafting.
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>>128778434
Target Priority is my issue I think, and knowing when to do AoE vs Doing single target.

>>128778516
Wave 7ish, right after the double Widows.

>>128778535
Possibly, I do have Bard at 204 or so, so I could swap to that for AoE.
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>>128778514
xth for laughing [email protected]
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xth for best cat
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>>128778707
How....
is this 50 2* or 60 2*?
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>>128778389
I want to save that lala
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>crush is flirting with a literal chad in mumble
REEEEEEEE
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hello?
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>>128778840
Theres a jam my cock joke to be made
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xth for is so damn cold here I need a hug!
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>>128778940
You two having fun over there?
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>>128778389
GO FUCK YOURSELF JAIBA YOU FUCK
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THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU MENTION LALAFELLS! IT GIVES THEM POWER!
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Tell me /xivg/, how do you feel about lalafell OP's?

http://strawpoll.me/6556598
http://strawpoll.me/6556598
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>>128778762
>target priority
just study it then, or ask someone who has studied to mark targets on the first runs
>AoE
you should be able to weave some aoes in the first waves to make things faster without sacrificing too many tp
after that, only the one before the last requires some heavy aoe damage
>wave 7ish
but widows are waves 5 and 9
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Hot potato
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>>128779113
/fug
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post characters with the nude patch
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>>128779192
>No 'Only good for punting' option

You had one job!
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>>128779221
Yeah, my static gets past Widows, but dies to the x4 Dolls or before them.

So I'm not sure whats going on.
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>>128779228
FUCK OFF BABYNUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Highlanders
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>>128778904
Do something pussy
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>>128779192
>No "at least it isn't a femroe thread" option
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>>128779324
Sure... just tell me where to find it.
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>no blonde hair, blue eye, busty, whm, midlander gf
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>>128779467
men.
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>>128779123
yes
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>>128779551
But those never happen and when they do, they're neat.
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>>128779467
>ywn suck this sylvari's toes, tits, and booty
>>128779551
Spoken like a true jealous cat. You have so much attention, why do you care that femroes get a little of it. Greedy bastard.
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>>128779467
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>>128779153
>Being this mad.
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end yourself
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>>128779636
Sounds like it with all the laughing I'm hearing in that moshpit of people.
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face 4 ww@
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>no money
>no relic

Iwant to drop this game, I'm so fucking tired of grinding gils, I don't even know what to do now that Ihave a dol at 60to get a lot of money
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xth for not wanting to grind out crystals.

>>128779589
No shy frail midlander girl who is always worried to hold hands and comfort.
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xth for no bf to cuddle with
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xth for lala thread being already shit
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>>128779192
LOL

>>128779670
>always assuming it's cats and not skin cancer scalies.
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>>128779467
>tfw Valsi-sempai will never notice you and give you a lesson

>>128779769
Aethersands.
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>>128779769
You should just clear AS4 and get a dip if you can't afford your relic.
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>>128779670
>implying I'm a c@
>implying I'm craving for attention
>implying I just don't want to play in an environment free of those abominations
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>>128779769
>don't have a single dol or doh past 30
>have more than enough money to pay for relic shit, even on my dead server
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>>128779409
the doll wave is simple, you can't possibly wipe there, it's literally just attack the right doll and avoid some obvious aoes
widows are trickier, make sure you are doing soldiers right, the priority on those two waves for you is bring soldiers to half life (usually the caster does this)>left widow>new wave spawns>finish soldiers>hardhelm>walker>doll and right widow
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>>128779919
but it's not bis
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>>128779348
Defaulted to "Nay" since I consider "Fuck off" to be more of a dry wit phrase.

>>128779551
I'd rather have a femroe thread over a lala thread, if I may be so blunt.
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>>128779192
>This number of voters.
>At least 140 posters in the last thread. Not counting evading ebins.

Sure senpai.
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>>128779903
The only lesson valsi teaches is how to be LAME
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>>128780082
>I'd rather have a femroe thread
how about you throw yourself head first in a pool of lava instead
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xth for le au ra
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>>128779767
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>>128779893
no vote manipulation going on here
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>>128779964
Thats the thing. Either DPS is too low, or that wave entirely is just what kills us due to something going wrong. I'm not sure what it is but it feels like its too much.

Though we haven't tried in two weeks.. since we lost a tank to sub fees.
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xth for cuddles and hand-holding
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>>128780175
Nah. Only cowards commit suicide.
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>>128780120
>he thinks there are 140 posters in the last thread not including evaders.

SURE LOL

There is probably not even 40 people who post here.
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FUNposting
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>>128780320
ok
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>>128779670
What's stopping you?

>>128779903
A lesson in what?

>>128780140
Shut up aweiner
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>>128780468
Do you even PLAY this game?
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>>128780226
naisssssssssssssssssssssu
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>>128779324
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>>128780574
>>128779461
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Strong Nunh on Balmung looking for multiple wives to breed for my tribe

PST
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>>128780574
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1c2OfAzDTI
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>>128780140
They're not lame, you're both cute...
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>>128780683
the heck dont quote me unless valsi is the babynut poster!!!!
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xth for roegadyn boyfriends
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>>128779192
I love Lala ops because it makes ebins butthurt.
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>>128780763
valsi has babynuts same thing
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>>128780327
you would do it for the sake of making the world a better place
it wouldn't be suicide, it would be martyr
you will be remembered as a hero
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>>128780268
Perhaps you should make sure the driver knows what to do
Anyway, good luck in case you start again.
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>>128780884
It's funny because in all his pictures he got one tiny little aweiner
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>>128780930
Half tempted to just join a Cuff Clear party, just so I can get something.
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I just got MCH to 52

how do i git gud with this, never did a dungeon with it yet but i dont want them to last long
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>>128780687
>"straight" cats
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>>128779893
>38 posters in the thread
>300+ votes

Potato hater is so butt hurt he needs to manipulate the poll
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>>128780574
That would be an abuse of your friendship to ask for help only to tell you I want to "help myself" to deep tongue kissing your leafy asshole.
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>>128780809
It makes 314 people butthurt, you stupid faggot.
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>>128781036
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>>128779467
Highlanders!
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I want a DPS that doesn't have too much to manage in terms of dots or procs but nice in parties. Are BRD or MCH fun? What about BLM or SMN?
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>>128781019
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>>128779324
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>>128780665
Not usually one to lewdpost, but those are perfect.
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bis
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>>128781069
At 52, not much changes. You can get to 54 without ever touching Gauss Barrel, but you could use this time to learn how to STance Dance with the barrel. General rule of thumb is save Head Graze, Blank, Rapid Fire and Reassemble for Gauss Barrel, keep it off otherwise.

If you can get it in while Wildfiring, the better.

While this is relevant for level 60 since thats when you get your full kit, its the best damn guide for MCH.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/262260-Lock-and-Load-The-Reassembled-Machinist-Guide
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>>128781303
>don't want too many dots
Do not play Sunmoner
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>>128778783
>tfw you'll never get to hang out with Moni or Neko in tub
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>>128780665
uncensored where
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>>128781395
pst
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>>128781281
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Okay guys, should I level BLM next?
Or should I try a new class entirely starting from scratch more or less?

BLM is 50. Everything else on the list is like 20 or lower.

http://strawpoll.me/6556908
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>>128781246
>Potato hater believing his lies.
C'mon dude, how can be 314 people being mad when this board only has less than 100 posters.
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>>128781530
BLM so you can be in on the Enochian dropping meme.
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>>128781530
BLM or BRD.

>No MCH
You already got that capped?
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>>128781605
Are you seriously so fucking stupid to believe that there aren't that many lurkers?

How new are you to 4chan?
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>>128781707
>playing mch under any circumstance
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>>128781036
>he thinks blm is HARD

LOL
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How far am I behind if I'm i189?
Is it worth resubbing?
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>>128781813
>not playing MCH
>not getting gud at it.

Shit son.
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>>128781036
>Bottom panel
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>>128781478
http://imgur.com/a/PYGGv
Don't say I never do anything for you, /xivg/
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>>128781867
it ain't worth it because the game is ded
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do you ever feel trapped in your relationships and get the desire to silently unfriend everyone and transfer servers?
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>>128780583
we try to
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>>128781939
mfw it's pretty accurate lmao
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>>128781939
It's not wrong.
Even your boyfriend said that's all you are now.
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>he has less than 3 anima
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>>128781793
>Caring about lurkers at all.
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>>128781975
No, because I don't lie and then when the lie gets to big flee the scene.
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>>128781954
>81954 ▶
> >>128781478 (You)
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>>128781939
unblock me
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>>128781906
do you want to be my nunh.....
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>>128777438
Are you still here?
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>>128782193
it's nothing to do with lying, recently my friends just feel annoying and i feel obligated to interact with them even when I don't really want to. Some of them are shitters but I don't want to deal with telling them and having them get all mad at me.
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>>128782327
Err.. Tempting but something tells me that will just cause problems.
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>>128781954
Do you pose for tributes?
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>>128782381
Then they aren't even friends to begin with.

But what do you expect from 4channers.
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This is why Hyur Midlander is the master race. Nobody picks a fight with them because they're the very image of perfection, and they're the largest populating race in Eorzea.
Elezen are pretty master race, too.
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>>128782381
>having them get all mad
You know they'll get mad, or are you just being a big, tender pussy?
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>>128781975

This is why I couldn't seriously entertain the idea of getting close to anyone on this board. You *could* open up a dialog whenever an issue appears with somebody, but no, you choose to burrow your head in the sand and hope everything blows over, or at the very least nobody sees you.

Quite frankly any relationship that ends up taking root in this thread ends up a car crash waiting to happen because someone will inevitably let neurosis and insecurity plague their mind.
>>
Anyone wanna do expert
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>>128782493
true
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>>128781975

I just used to make multiple characters on MMOs and go play on something else if I wanted to get away for a while.

Now I don't even bother with relationships because it turns out I don't really enjoy them.
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>>128782460
>tributes
What? Like, fanart?
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>>128782493
>This is why Hyur Midlander is the master race, ese.
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>>128782624
yes
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>Urth's Fount
>fight is literally just dodging AoEs
>decent heal check
>weak DPS check
>people manage to fuck it up
>people manage to stand in AoEs
>people running their AoEs into other players
>people standing in Volknut
>"mark the gungnirs so we can see them when they spawn"
>mark the big fucking spears that anyone with eyeballs can see

Unreal. The absolute dog shit that comprises this player base is fucking unreal.
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>>128782624
I would but I'm intimidated
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>>128782648
I'm assuming the answer will be no considering you aren't familiar with the terminology.

Tribute being showing off and perhaps teasing while someone masturbates to you.
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>>128781427
>OF
>ever

Don't ever make the poster go to that shit place.

instead go here:

https://www.bluegartr.com/threads/125956-Machinist-New-Headless-Running-DPS
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>>128782493
>being so bland of a race that you cant really be insulted
its a mixed feel
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>>128782193

>Needing voice
>Needing it to be personal
>Adopting these mannerisms in real life

He's doling out advice based on a fucking Disney cartoon.
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Do female midlanders only have one face option? There's no difference between any of the ones I see in game.
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>>128783002
they have the most i believe

there's just not many good ones
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>>128782806
y
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>>128781954
I want to marry that cat.
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>>128783002
5.
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>>128782952
>bluegartr
What the fuck is that place?
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>>128782680
>tfw EB'd someone who is a functioning human being

Pretty comfy.
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>>128782807
Not them but
Do you like Raen...
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>>128782965
they're not really bland when they have more options than other races, and the other races have an even worse case of sameface and being bland
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>>128783145
A better place than reddit and OF.
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>>128782807
Oh.
The answer won't DEFINITELY be no~
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>>128783246
>muted animations, facial expression emotes are weak
>literally humans in a fantasy race
>not at least in the /slightest/ bland
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>>128783250
>>128783145
>>128782952
>he thinks bluegartr is the same as the bluegartr who raids/beat T5 etc.
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Which is better? Plainsfolk or Dunesfolk?
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>>128783250
And yet its the same thing there as it is on the OF.

Sure, OF is a cesspool at times but that guide is the best one there is, there's literally no change elsewhere until someone changes up the MCH meta.
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>>128783226
Yes. Very much.

>>128783328
There is hope~.
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>>128781793
Why the fuck would that many people lurk in this Gen
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>>128782493
>midlander females
>only played by vanilla erpers
>midlander males
>thirsty fucks like ippiki trying to find a fraulein or ironic memelords trying to be ugly on purpose like zani and pedro
truly, the best race
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xth for Emina.
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>>128783246
Female midlanders have the second worse case of sameface. Only Roegs have it worse.
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>>128781427
>keep it off otherwise.
There has been literally no reason to disable Gauss Barrel since the buffs shortly after release.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wZ5Zarh_Qs
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something something midland
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I miss liora
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>>128783637
There is a small Auto Shot meta for Wildfires but the difference is like.. 300 damage or so.

I usually keep my Gauss on 100% of the time myself, but at 52? Gauss isn't that big of an increase since you don't have Gauss Round.
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>>128783572
>Yes. Very much.
Balmung?
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>>128783572
What kind of showing off were you thinking of?
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>>128783797
whats up i guess
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>>128783852
who?
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>>128781530
Holy fucking shit, 294 votes for monk.

>>128781707
I don't like MCH.
Sorry on my phone.
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>>128783403
what do you mean weak
males have pretty okay emotes while females are very energetic
it really doesn't matter if there are humans in a fantasy race. these other fantasy races are based off of humans as well, and it doesn't mean that humans aren't welcome either
>>128783625
third worse or fourth probably
highlanders with males only using that on face with the stubble and females using only 2 faces
lalas pretty much look the same too
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rate my midlander
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>>128784317
weakly animated/stilted.
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>>128784357
rated
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>>128783852
I'll try to get more shots of her, but she's usually with Guffy when I see her.
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>>128784586
>her
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>>128784357
Not great. Terrible face and terrible hair.
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>>128784357

generic/10
Even using that ugly-as-shit top that everyone under level 44 uses.
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>>128784439
if you actually want weak animations, see elezen
their emotes do not need to be so overdone or given too much emotion like highlanders do, it feels like they'd be overreacting
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>>128782624
are we doing expert or not
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>>128784357
cutie
would gf/10
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>>128784889
both are weak.
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>>128783447
Top male: Plainsfolks
Bottom male: Dunesfolks.
Top female: Dunesfolks.
Bottom female: Plainsfolks.
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>>128784941

I rate this comment thirsty/10
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>>128782624
>tfw in love with this cat
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>>128785087
i'm very thirsty for a video game gf desu
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>>128784973
it's really not, but whatever. i love the simplicity they have that you assume.
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>>128783923
Balmung, yep.

>>128783924
Stripping and admiring, of course.
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>Sell all your drops you dont currently need while leveling
>Overcome with regret when you dont have super good leveling gear when you finally level that job you never said you would level
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>>128785225
both are stunted animations that come off as weak but have a charm to them that are based on race*
there
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>>128785286
i know the feel
i don't have any DEX gear and my MNK has had to be geared from scratch
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Now that I'm actually doing it, I can see why people complain that having to do all of 2.X before Heavensward is a pain in the arse. It's longer than I remember and 80% of it is fetch-questing.
>>
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>>128785439

And? Look at the marketplace and spend some of that gil.
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>Zone into an instance
>Wow the healer is so tall!
D-do people not like tall Elezen girls?
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>>128785583
dillon you son of a bitch
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>>128785578

I've done it on 4 characters.

It's pretty tiresome.
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>>128785708
That is simply divine~.
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>>128785787
I'm on my 5th
send help
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aetherfags pls queue for LoA
5/4/11
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>>128785909

5 characters well that's just crazy, now.
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>>128785298
not really, no.
it's like you want the emotes to shoot out fireworks and confetti.
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>>128785856
I happen to be on Balumg too, as it happens
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>>128786042
Suck a dick I just got out of one of those.
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>>128786197
>it's like you want the emotes to shoot out fireworks and confetti.
no.
read the last part of my post.
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>>128785787
>>128785909
Goodness! Why? Even this 2nd time is trying my patience!
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>>128785617
by the way i didn't sell the old gear, i discarded it
but im not spending money on gear that's just lame
i only have 3.7m anyway

>>128785583
mine brought back a behemoth horn once
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>>128783604
>tfw thirsy and ugly at the same time.
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>>128786402

2 and 3 were for specialization/crafting purposes.

4 was because I ran out of things to do.
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>>128785578
I should've leveled with you.
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>>128786402
I have one character for each playstyle, really. One tank, one healer/caster, one melee DPS, and one ranged DPS. The last one is one I just kind of futz around on, haven't made up my mind what to do with it yet.

But I'm a roleplayer, and I like having different characters with different personalities to RP.
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>>128779636
why are you so good at making ugly characters?
Is it your stand?
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>>128785578
Make some friends and do it with them
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>>128786278
fuck you too brahms
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>>128783604
yes, on purpose...
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>>128785740
I require them to be tall.
And to attach a picture.
>>128783604
>only played by vanilla erpers
Not the ones I've fucked.
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>>128786345
i don't see how you think their emotes are weak, or are you comparing it to other races with their emotional or overdone emotes?
not even humans irl would act frequently like midlanders in emotes would, it looks ridiculous.
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>>128786575
>>128786679
Ah, right. I'm doing similar. Tank didn't suit my miqo'te so I made a highlander for it.

>>128786626
Too late!

>>128786721
I'm doing it with two of my RL friends who I recruited, so it's nice to go through with them as they see things for the first time at least!
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>>128783604
what's wrong with being thirsty?
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WHERE IS SHE I MISS HER
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>>128786219
If they get cold feet, I'd like to admire you...
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>>128785740
>in small FC as the only elezen
>everyone else are miqo'te
>always get the "You're so tall :3" from FC leader whenever we meet up

You get used to it.
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hello
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>>128786725
Syrcus Tower now.

3/3 4/6 11/15
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>>128785708
Just finished up, thank you~.
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>>128786219
Perhaps we could meet somewhere?
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>tfw cucked
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>>128787821
by who
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>>128786042
>LoA
It's CT you fucking retards. Stop trying to force this.
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>>128787821
shyvana?
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>>128787369
I would join but fucking duty finder keeps alternating between placing me in an almost full queue and one with like one other fellow in it.
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>>128787986
Liora...
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>>128787998
LotA, ST, and WoD are all CT, dummy.
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>>128788023
I was in an empty queue too but it popped.

Just one more healer for Syrcus Tower on Aether.
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>>128788110
The first part of Crystal Tower has always been called CT. It's CT/ST/WoD.
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>>128788130
did it pop? I just got forced into either ST or WoD it looks like
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>>128787821

Why do people ever put themselves in a position to be cucked? Do they like it?
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>>128788058
Liora is playing bns senpai
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>>128787679
>>128787304
Well, I have nothing to do currently~
>>128787529
That's... oddly pleasing to know
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>>128788332
Yeb.
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>>128788176
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>>128788371
Which makes it worse...
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>>128788567
That doesn't fucking matter, 99% of people here, ingame, on the official forums, on Reddit, wherever else you can think of all called it CT.
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>>128787821
it's okay shyvana
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>>128788176
No, it stopped being called CT the instant that there were two separate instances within CT.

This is also why when you say "Coil" people assume that you're talking about all of it, from T1 to T13, rather than thinking you're a retard that says "Coil" to specifically mean T1-T5, instead of specifying Binding Coil/Second Coil/Final Coil.
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>>128788668

All of those people are wrong.
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>>128788668
It doesn't matter what the players call it when it's officially called Labyrinth of the Ancients.
Heck, what you said could mean that I could call the entire Black Shroud the city-state of Gridania.
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Lizards in armor
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>>128786680
what ? that's one of the cutest in this thread.
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What were those peoples names who were having that wedding today?
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>>128788928
Except your example is completely backwards. People call it Crystal Tower because Labyrinth, Syrcus Tower, and World of Darkness (entrance to anyway) are all section of a single structure know as the Crystal Tower. People simply refer to the first portion as the full structure, not the raid name. Gridania is only a portion of the Black Shroud, backwards in case of a comparison example.

Is it still confusing how people refer to it? Sure. Are they wrong? Technically, no.
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>>128789527
ok shyvana.
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>>128788393
I guess he got cold feet after all. Would you like to meet up somewhere...?
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>>128786680
idk boss you tell me
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>>128790398
>>128788928
If you ask someone if they wanna run CT or Coil like 99% of people are still going to ask you what section. They're not going to assume you mean a specific section. They might think you mean all of it, but I have never heard someone refer to the first section simply as CT.
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>>128779467
spooklanders
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>Come back
>Game still boring as all fuck
>Thread still absolute dogshit
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>>128790587
u__
______u
u_________
_____u___
___u
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>>128790498
Certainly!
... you're not a futa, are you? No offense, but those do nothing for me
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>>128790934
What do you like?
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>>128790812
Who?
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>>128790224
Hi, it's me, Sugiura Ayano
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have u ever given up on life
i have.
Savage is ok
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>>128791085
Men. Women possibly, but mostly just for silly fooling around~

NO LALAS
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>>128791429
>Doesn't want futas
>wants men
Full. Blown. Faggot
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>>128791596
>futas
>men
>any difference
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>>128790597
Then clearly you haven't heard many people refer to the first section at all.
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>>128791429
Well, I'm a guy so I guess we can make it nice for both of us.
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>>128790812
>tfw do this once a week
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>>128791768
Futas are at least feminine they got boobs and feminine penises, oh and cute lady balls.
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>>128792010
>>128791843
>>128791768
>>128791596
>>128791494
>>128791429
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What is going to happen when 3.2 flops?
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>>128791768
>this post
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>>128791596
Yep. I'm so gay I've gone full circle and come back into straight.
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>>128791596
>Futa
>Not gay
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> gay hair elf can change your limbal ring settings and color
> but not your eye color

???
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>>128792010
>giving male genitalia female monikers to justify themselves

>>128792146
It depends on how much the JP like it.
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>>128792315
are u implying that limbal rings arent just eye tattoos that you can take off at the will of a gay elf man with scissors???
yeah nah it is pretty dumb
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>Alexander Midas Gear will all look gold

I hope the new tomestone gear looks cute, and thank god it isn't job specific this time.
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>people still spend all day at the Idyllshire bench while living in the thread
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>>128792010

>feminine penises

My 16 inch black fat veiny futa-roe cock begs to differ.
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Aether tankfags please queue for LoA. At 5/6/12 currently.
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>>128792669

> the bench moved to idleshitters instead of ul'dah

IGNORANCE IS BLISS
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>>128792146
What definition of "flop" are we using? The one where people who think the game is inherently shit and have literally not stopped bitching about it in two years think that the patch sucks, or the one where people who like the game and enjoyed 2.x but just think that 3.x has sucked so far are disappointed again?
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>>128792869
Where the endgame is not existent and they should just stop bothering.
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>>128792869
The latter, which is pretty much anyone outside of xivg.
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Each boss in Midas will do different elemental damage. The entire party will be required to meld elemental materia to clear while undergeared, and the last boss will have 2 elements to fuck up the tanks.
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>>128792684
>be futaroe with two two-footers
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>>128793037
They need to just remove elemental materia, it has never been useful.
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>>128791843
What/where did you have in mind?
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>>128793132

That's just gross, anon.
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>>128793014
If the game gets a second patch cycle where the actual fanbase hates the game as much as they have during 3.0/3.1, then it's pretty much done. It won't die overnight or anything, but it'll pretty much get locked into a slow descent and be pretty much irrelevant before there's ever a 5.0.
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> no money
> auction house not changing that any time soon
> fc somehow convinced themselves we can buy a non-small plot with 5 people when none of us are already rich

I see no happy ending here.
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>>128792684
Anti please.
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>friend is gonna resub for 3.2 to see if the pvp is good
>dont have the heart to tell him to just save his money
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>still need to cap eso
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Hinterlands is a pretty comfy zone.
>>128793162
>They removed the useful 1.0 materia and left us with the ones that are useless.
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>>128792010
>Feminine male genitalia
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why does the BLM ESO gear look so shitty
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>want to gear WAR
>figure why bother when its going to get nerfed in less than a month
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>>128793510
It's nice until you fly. Then it looks fucking atrocious.
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>>128792010
I love this meme.
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>>128792684
Well you practically a guy so
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>>128792010
>cute lady balls
>four honeydew melons in a saggy hairy sack
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>>128793585
Doubt it. PLD will get buffed but WAR will stay the same.
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>>128793580
It's obviously made for females.
>>128793620
Every zone so far is atrocious when flying or seeing a birds eye view of it, even ARR zones.
SE doesn't really care about the zones, which is actually true considering that the open world content is also awful and barely any of it relevant.
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>>128793912
;_;
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>>128793912
>made for females
>acceptable on elezen
>can't stand it on my roegadyn
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>>128794086
It looked pretty good on the female Roegadyn in the first previews.
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>>128793907
And Yoshi has said they'll only ever do small, incremental buffs to stop stuff being OP, so PLD will still be shit.
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>>128794086
>he thinks roegadyn are feminine
I bet you think they aren't all futa too either.
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>>128793912
I wish all the caster eso gear wasn't obviously made for females.
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>>128794324
>I bet you think they aren't all futa
The ones I fucked weren't.
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>>128793325

>Know someone saving up for a small house
>They save up over 6 mil
>A 'deal they can't refuse' shows up
>It's just some glamour piece
>They're back down to 500k in a single purchase

These people will never get enough for a house.
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>>128794324
Are you trying to tell me i'm futa?
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>>128794564
LOL
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>>128794279
The problems with PLD are like 70% that the current content in the game sucks for PLD and 30% that the class itself actually has problems, so they're probably a little smarter than a lot of the playerbase on that one.
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>>128794605
What king of glamour piece costs 5.5m?
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>>128794440
The SMN one looks pretty manly to me.
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>>128794650
Except their DPS is much lower, their single target threat is lower, their AoE threat is lower, and even when it comes to non-magic mitigation most of their other skills are entirely impractical.
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>>128794650
Content tailored to a class doesn't make it relevant. Dark knights aren't better because they can block magic hits. Dark knights are better because they deal more damage.

90% class issue, 10% content balance.

No one gave a shit that you were less optimized as paladin on Ramuh.
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>>128794927
>even when it comes to non-magic mitigation most of their other skills are entirely impractical
Then why did PLD MT everything in ARR?
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>>128794607
Well considering there is no such thing as a female roegadyn that isn't a futa, then yes.
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>>128795093
Because before they were buffed, WAR couldn't tank an asthmatic kitten.
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>>128793248
I wanted to enjoy your teasing but if you want something more, I'm down for it.
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Who /Cerberus/ here?
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>>128795046
>Dark knights aren't better because they can block magic hits

what
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DRK and AST were a mistake and useless. MCH is fine.

MCH should have been the only job added to HW, while fine tuning the existing jobs and giving them extra skills and traits.
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>>128794760

The favor-item helm for tanks... adamantite barbut of fending. Think it 'usually' sold for around 9-10m so they figured 6m was a great deal.

Hell looks like it's about 3.2m on the marketplace right now. Woulda figured it'd be much lower.
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>>128795268
WAR was buffed in 2.1 when first coil was relevant and second/final weren't released.
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>>128795336
>MCH is fine
>Its basically a copy of BRD with rng thrown into its rotation

At least DRK is a little bit creative in its skills.
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>>128795352
It's like 1.5m in mats on balmung
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>>128795336
> working your ass off only to be quite literally the worst DPS class in the game
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>>128795450
Literally what? MCH plays differently from BRD, DRK is PLD with more off-GCDs.
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>>128795046
>Dark knights aren't better because they can block magic hits
A3S drainage and A4S say hi

>>128795093
The guy's being dumb, there weren't many magic hits in ARR

Off the top of my head
>T2 ADS autoattacks
>T7 Prosector attacks
>T8 cleave
>T10 Wild Charge
>T11 ADS autoattacks + nerve cloud
>T12 Rebirth
>T13 Akh Morn/Gigaflare/Flare Breath
>ifrit cleave
>titan tumults
>ramuh everything
>levi cleave
That's all I can remember. Pretty fucking short compared to almost every tank buster in savage.
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>>128795525

Probably why the 3.2m one on the marketplace hasn't sold, then.

But yeah, some people as soon as they get some gil they wanna spend it. Nice for the economy I s'pose but it's kinda disappointing when you can tell they're working so much towards getting a home but they give up only 1/4 of the way in.
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>>128795542
PLD has Dark Arts MP management?
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>>128795308
What's there not to understand. Dark Mind reduces damage from magic. Shields do not.

>>128795580
That's where the 10% comes in.

Damage is favored above all else when configuring, and even if paladin had more stops to pull out it wouldn't be taken over a dark knight at that discrepancy.
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>>128795164
RUDE!
>>
Why did they make all the DPS pretty much the same shit in HW?

All now have a bullshit buff to keep track off, then you have some jobs which have pointless skill slots like DRG needing 2 skills that do the exact same fucking thing with the positional only being the different.

WHAT THE FUCK
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>>128795738
DRK's MP management is so simple that you can't even consider it a mechanic. Spam Delirium combo until you have enough MP for DA, use DA on Souleater/Carve and Split, and pop every off-GCD when it's available.
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>>128795897
You are talking about blocking when comparing drk and pld
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>>128795093
Because there wasn't a 3rd tank and people didn't want to use WAR for MT progression since it took slightly more knowledge of the fight to know when to use IB, on top of WAR being better suited for OT because it didn't run out of TP as fast as an OT PLD.
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>>128795046
It is content design and not class design that DPS capabilities on a tank are more important than mitigation and utility.
>>
>Squenix
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>>128796028
>WAR being better suited for OT because it didn't run out of TP as fast as an OT PLD.
That's wrong. WAR OT had no way to save TP besides Berserk, and used more TP because of Fracture. They ran out at around the same time when WAR wasn't in Defiance. PLD also did more DPS as OT, and WAR did more as MT.
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>>128795717
>get money
>notice there's nothing to spend it on but Glamours and housing
>don't want Glamours
>3.1
>now have twenty-three million useless gil
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>>128795280
Teasing is well and good, but sometimes that isn't quite enough.
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>The best Esoterics gear on the worst job.
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>>128795897
The problem is on two fronts.

PLD takes more damage from certain hits/has to use more serious cooldowns than DRK(less healer DPS).
PLD does less DPS than DRK.

If PLD had the tools to mitigate the shit out of Savage it would still be viable, but it's just not.

>>128795995
Not when your MP bounces up and down from regen/drain constantly. Trying to time MP ticks for one last Souleater or CnS, then repopping Darkside is a skill not found in the other tanks, but that's trying to play it 100% optimal, not basic competency.
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>>128796291
It looks like a shit plastic costume ingame.
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>>128796092
Gotta make the futa RPers feel at home when they get married!
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>>128796291
>dyeing the chest looks like whoever colored it gave up halfway through
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>>128796195

Well if you want a house you could either find someone willing to sell for 8-18m or save up a bit more.

Or keep saving, I guess. I'm sitting at about 75m right now (I'd have about 175m if I didn't RMT the rest) but just kinda lazily putting stuff on the marketplace. Already got a house, 2 airships, and like you I don't care much about glamour (I can craft it anyway).

It is kinda fun to toss ~200-300k at someone and make their day, though.
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>>128796291
>cool we get a nice set of metal armor and a nice cape
>get chinese bootleg plastic and a stiff as fuck cape that look like shower curtains
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What's the average drop rate for seals doing arr hunts I want the famalam caster legs
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>>128795336
DRK is fine, AST and MCH are not.

MCH was unfinished, and AST was deliberately gimped
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>>128796209
Then how about we get wild and do more?
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>no glamour log
>no muti dye system

Step the game up yoshi, every other MMO on the market has this global standards now.
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>>128796653
>Well if you want a house
I don't anymore, thanks to 3.1! I was saving up for Coerthas housing, I still have plenty of time to make the other twenty-seven million but..
>It is kinda fun to toss ~200-300k at someone and make their day, though.
I do this occasionally. I like to play a game that the Sprout doesn't know they're playing, and they get the gil if they "win". One time I would've given someone a million but they didn't do what I wanted.
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>>128796997
If you're sure you can handle it~
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i am a new player on balmung, should i join neet? i heard they are pretty cancerous so i am a bit scared.
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>>128797120

Yeah? I think I know what you mean since I've contemplated something like that, but what are your 'games' like?

>>128797275

If you have to ask, you'll feel right at home.
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>>128796969
AST is currently better than WHM, as it brings more party-wide support and utility

Main problem is people play it wrong and the current fights don't cater to it's strenghts, same as for PLD
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>>128797275
What do you think will happen if you join? You won't be able to leave or no one will allow you to join any other Company? /XIVg/ is not reliable for this kind of information.
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>>128778389
This potato is in a jam
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>>128797203
Can I watch this shit?
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>>128797275
You'll hate it. Good luck though since its a great server.
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Anyone around lvl 43 wanna do stuff to level on Balmung?
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>>128797653
Butt stuff?
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>>128796023
And you are reading into words too literally.

>>128796034
Content balance revolves around how valid each job is in their position. Obviously things have to be favorable for all three tanks, or balance is broken. In this case it's a "magic abundance" that people cite but that's hardly the problem.

Were you to tailor the next tier to be purely physical, paladin would still be absent from initial clear groups.
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>>128797653
What kind of stuff? :3
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>pull 2 groups in ARR HM dungeon because lol who even single pulls in these faceroll content
>healer threw out only one heal, then enter "i'm afk kick me please" mode

all dow doh dol jobs at 60, nearly full eso with some alexn accessories, already has anima relic and starting on second one according to lodestone

all that grind and yet still hasn't even touch a1s, and too lazy to do more than alt tab netflix afk heal, and surprise surprise he's from lol Coeurl.

Life must be every exciting on those bumfuck servers, with everyone being eso welfare queen.
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Limited time Trip change.
>Feral
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>>128797401
I stand near them and stare at them. If they start moving I'll likely follow them for however long I still care to until they look at me. Looking at me is "winning" and I immediately open up trade. It's usually characters I like the look of or I like what their name references, sometimes if they're the one to look at me first.
>>
>>128797760
>>128797825
You perverts! I mean murderhoboing. FATEs. Maybe some leves or something. I dunno. Just tired of soloing.
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>>128797567
Thanks for pudding that out there.
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>Craft a bunch of stuff
>1 or 2 items short of making another
>Toss the leftovers

I wonder how much gil I've thrown away doing this. Hell, same with fish.

>>128797935

Sounds like a fun game, anon. I approve.
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>>128797653
I'm only lv30 and I want to level Lancer and Marauder from 6 and 1.
>>128797919
Cool name.
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>>128797203
Oh I'm sure. Where do you want to meet?
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>>128798235
I'm going to be there too. I wanna see some hot action
>>
2 dps from aether queue ST
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>>128798395
>two people standing around and staring at each other
So hot.
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Who's the tightest midlander on Balmung?
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>>128798878
Pac-man
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>>128798798
forgot to mention there's a poetics bonus
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>>128798878

Tightest or titest?
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>>128798878
That one Dark Knight with the black and red highlight hair. Since she's never had anything in her.
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>>128799004
Oh, the forced meme.
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>>128798235
I don't suppose you have somewhere private?
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This class is boring.
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>>128799004
Not anymore. I nutted in her last week.
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>>128799247
seems fitting for someone like you lad
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>>128799247
Not as boring as Lancer. It gets better at lv60.
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>>128797816
>Were you to tailor the next tier to be purely physical, paladin would still be absent from initial clear groups.

No, it would not be. Gordias is an aberration; in every other raid tier this game has ever had, the common thread between groups that succeed at early progression is a strong focus on defense and survivability, over simply maximizing DPS*. The only reason that Gordias was any different is that the DPS checks were so grossly overtuned that it was literally impossible to clear without absolutely maximizing DPS until we were several months in.

Since the devs have already stated that the design of Midas will be closer to SCoB and FCoB than to Gordias, it's highly likely that a defense-first strategy (which will likely include using a Paladin for some or all of the fights) will be best for initial clear groups and early progression. Paladin's lack of damage will probably be less of a handicap than Dark Knight's lack of ability to deal with strong/frequent physical tankbusters.

*And the common thread between people who spoke very authoritatively about the best way to do progression, only to be a total no-show when it came to actual ranking clear times is that they would spend the last two months of the previous raid cycle talking about how tanking was all about DPS and you should be out of your tank stands 90% of the time, etc etc.
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>>128799247
holy shit thats an ugly ass cat
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>>128799048
Sadly, no I don't.
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>>128799284
Excuse me???
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>>128799720
>>128799284
That's not nice.
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>>128799809
She's a nice replacement for Liora. Just wish she posted more.
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>>128780665
T-twin?!
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>>128799725
Under the tree by the Aftcastle?
And of course it started to rain just then.
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>>128799984
Very glad I didn't choose to help you, considering you're talking to the bench crowd already.
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>>128798878
Actually, it'd be me. But I'm not posting a pic nor saying my name cause I don't wanna get flooded by thirsty queers.
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>>128800408

> on balmung
> "I don't wanna get flooded by thirsty queers."

Who are you trying to convince?
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>>128800370
Yeah what a shame, huh.
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>>128799284
What are you talking about? My purity is still intact.
>>128800049
Sorry anon, I'm getting lazy.
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>>128800370
>fedora.gif
Jesus christ man, no one fucking cares.
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>>128800370
ahhahaha

>>128800928
liar
>>
>There are people who want others to not be able to do Alex normal and see the story before the savage raiders can

The community really is godawful holy shit
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>>128800370
wuoah what a badass too good to talk to /xivg/ but posts on /xivg/
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>>128800928
>My purity is still intact.
Not for long.
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There's something soothing about sitting out in the rain in the evening.
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>>128800864
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>>128800991
>>128801050
All /b/enchers.
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>>128800370
>Even considering helping the weekly attention whore that manages to create a character on Balmung

Are you new or just silly? We have stupid sluts attention whoring and benching it up all the fucking time.
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>>128801139
Yes that was implied. There is nothing inherently wrong with the location or people. You are to judge others on the character of their personality and actions.
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>>128801125
Want to go on a date?
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>>128800370
You know what, I'm raising a million gil for them now.
>>128800864
Care to share your name?
>>128801139
>bench
Nope, I hate the bench. Not the people on it, just the location.
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>implying savage raiders even raid for the challenge and not for the ilvl and muh gear.
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>>128801029
Gordias NM should have been put out in 3.2, Midas NM should have been put out in 3.4, and whatever the third tier of Alexander is called should have its NM put out in 3.55 right before they release 4.0.
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>>128801078
>this angle
Suddenly compelled to have you deepthroat me. Wish I was big enough for impalement.
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>>128796805
It's not even a cape.
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>>128801078
You should stay Au Ra.
She's a cutie.
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>>128801427
>impossible to find people to do i110 savage scob when i130 gear was out

kill me senpai
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>mommy bought me cherry pepsi

blegh!! i'm gonna tear up her family photo albums
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>>128800991
I do not lie.
>>128801078
Pls don't taint me
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>making raid content that not even 10% of playerbase does
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>>128799597
Yes, it certainly would be.

Groups succeeded early on by threading the needle with what can reliably negate variance (a hit point threshold). This is no different in Gordias, except for the focus on damage above all else in the checks you mentioned.

And what even is this "defense-first" strategy? When tanks are so similar in effect. You wouldn't have seen much difference with a warrior main tanking Favors or Flattens back in the day, early on, given proper cooldown management.

The strongest influence to come in 3.2 will be VIT calculations that serve to lighten the intensity in which paladin underperforms. It won't fix shit, but it'll blur the lines.
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>>128801837
Can I convince you to make your Highlander an alt on Behemoth?
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>>128802027
This kills the MMO.
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>>128802027
>Making raid content that only 10% of the people that cleared the previous raid can clear
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Does it still take weeks to get your esoteric set? I want to finish leveling my DRK for that sexy AF set
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The real reason Alexander failed is because SE even fucking admitted they never tested the fights in one rull run, they only ever practice/tested them in segments with probably highest ilvl and full health.

This is bad design and even if they claim they aren't the best players, they shouldn't release something like this if you can't test it by running the entire fight without cheating.
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>>128801840
When are you feeding me titles, daddy

daddy I'm hungry
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>>128802027
So? Less than 5% of the population did Naxx in vanilla wow. It gives people something to strive for.
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>>128802170
Yes.
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>>128802170
yeah
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>>128801535
Can you handle it? Alchemy exists.

>>128801837
I'm debating it but these things are...fluid..with me.

>>128801923
Too late.
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Why the fuck is the subreddit for this game nothing but shitty ass fanart, there is even a fanart subreddit subreddit for it in the right side of the page.

STOP POSTING IT.
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>>128802105
No. Just transfer to Balmung and you can rp with x100 highlanders.
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>>128801523
For what purpose, so "hardcore" raiders can actually feel like they're not wasting their time?

Fuck that, deal with it
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>>128802426
>making a whore on purpose
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>>128802241
>Taking the bait.
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>>128781954
Any chance you have the uncensored version of this one?

Please?
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>>128802440
the game is at a low point, there is nothing to talk about.
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>>128802674
I'm going to nut if I can see that uncensored.
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>>128802674
No, because those aren't my characters. Sorry.
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>>128802690
well mods need to do their fucking job there.
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>>128802597
>Making a whore accidentally.
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>>128802426
>handle it
>>128802467
But they aren't you. Oh well.
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Anyone playing Blade and Soul :3?
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>>128803013
Are you a faggot :3?

The answer is yes
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>>128802597
>me
>not a whore already
step up senpai
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>>128802491
For the same reason that Diadem shouldn't have been handing out i210 gear like candy, except from a story standpoint instead of a gear standpoint: Because ALL players should be incentivized to participate in the real version of the content, and alternate methods to achieve the same rewards should be given out later.
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>>128803093
Sucking e-dick doesn't make you a whore, just a sad, sad man.
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>>128803013
Yun are the futa of that game.
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>>128803215
I was a sad, sad man before i stared playing XIV my man
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4 minutes with no posts.

weird
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How is Sword Oath PLD worse at holding enmity than DRK without Grit? They do nearly the same damage and PLD's Royal Authority combo involves Savage Blade.
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>>128803863
Horrible.
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>>128803809
And now you're a fulfilled slut.
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>>128803863
No, because Darkside is so much fucking better than Sword Oath it's not even funny.
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>>128802426
She's one of the cuter characters you have/10.

So, I'm tempted to keep this helmet. But the sky pirate helmet fits the look so well.
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>>128802052
No, they succeeded early on by being as defensive as it was possible to be while still beating DPS checks. That's why they went with full-VIT Paladins instead of giving up a tiny bit of VIT to meld a ton of STR, that's why those Paladins melded Parry and even DEX to their gear instead of Crit, that's why those full-VIT Paladins stayed in Shield Oath the entire time despite there being plenty of windows to switch to Sword Oath in between heavy hits. That's why the DPS all gave up 20 iLevels of their main stat across their entire right side even though it was entirely possible to survive the entire raid tier in normal i110 gear that maximizes damage.


If it mattered that we "wouldn't have seen much difference" if only they'd done things the way that you, personally, think is best, then we would have actually seen those things done. Progression is about reality, not people making hypothetical arguments on message boards, and not a single group that mattered behaved anywhere near the way you're describing.

People made the exact arguments you're making right now in the lead-up to Final Coil, right down to "Nobody's EVER going to let a Paladin MT because you get optimal DPS out of a Warrior MT and Paladin OT!" Then, as if by magic, none of that shit actually happened.
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>>128800280
you can be ugly together!
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>>128803849
it's snowing outside
wanna come play in the snow with me?
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>>128803992
Something like that.

>>128804519
I really like her, kinda disappointed i was bullied into going elezen last time i played her. Also the couerl helmet sucks in comparison.
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Is HEC full of ERP?
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>>128804996
A lot of it is, yeah.
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>>128804984
Yeah it sort of does.
I'm at an rp event though. Masquerade ball, so it works for now.
But I'd totally stare into those purple eyes. They're pretty hypnotic.
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>>128803863
A Rage of Halone combo in Sword Oath is 2050 enmity potency (that's 150*1 for Fast Blade, 200*3 for Savage Blade, and 260*5 for Rage of Halone).

A Power Slash combo without Grit is 2955 enmity potency (that's 150*1 for Hard Slash, 220*3.5 for Spinning Slash, and 300*5.5 for Power Slash, all of which is multiplied by 1.15 because of Darkside).

Paladin can keep up with that for about one combo, if they use Shield Swipe and Circle of Scorn along with it. After that, those skills are on cooldown, and DRK is pulling farther and farther ahead with every combo.
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>>128804996
I heard it used to be a massive ERP prostitution ring, but moderators cracked down on it.
Speaking of which, with Courtesan's Coven failing, I hear, I hope someone picks up the mama-san mantle and runs a better whore ring.
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