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Previous >>128689283

>This Month (January) Events Schedule
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>Please, READ THE FAQ - it will answer most of your questions if you are new or learning
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>Mega Pastebin
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>Japanese Wiki
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I'm a Virasexual.
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xth for granblue boys
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CAGLIOSTRO! You are so beautiful!
CAGLIOSTRO! You are so wonderful!
CAGLIOSTRO! You are incedible!
I want, to marry you!

With your silky smooth flaxen hair,
And your soft skin, so pale and fair,
And with that naughty look in your eye,
Why, I just feel like I could fall down and die!

CAGLIOSTRO! You are so beautiful!
CAGLIOSTRO! You are so wonderful!
CAGLIOSTRO! You are incedible!
I want, to marry you!

Your clothes are soft and yet so hot,
One glance at you, it hits the spot,
All of creation's greatest alchemist are you,
All the inferior specimens of today you can outdo!

CAGLIOSTRO! You are so beautiful!
CAGLIOSTRO! You are so wonderful!
CAGLIOSTRO! You are incedible!
I want, to marry you!

Even without the power of the Philospher's Stone,
You can effortlessly turn hordes of enemies to bone,
You are truly the cutest in the world,
Anyone that dares disagree shall find their body unfurled!

CAGLIOSTRO! You are so beautiful!
CAGLIOSTRO! You are so wonderful!
CAGLIOSTRO! You are incedible!
I want, to marry you!

To finally meet you in a foreign land,
With shaking legs, I barely stand,
With this gold ring I get on one knee,
Oh Cagliostro I now ask, will you marry me?

CAGLIOSTRO! You are so beautiful!
CAGLIOSTRO! You are so wonderful!
CAGLIOSTRO! You are incedible!
I want, to marry you!
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Any reroll anon giving away accounts with SSRs?
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>>128773665
>>128773743
>>128773839
The rules of this board need to change so we can have proper discussions.
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How do I get Vira to love me?
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>>128773857
Got an Athena, but I doubt you'd want that as a starting roll.
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>can wreck Very Hard with ease
>Extreme completely buttrapes me

What the hell, the difficulty spike is insane. Even the trash mobs are raping me.
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>>128773857
Post email.
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>>128774290
[email protected]
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>>128773926
What would you change?
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I asked in the previous thread but nobody replied, so I'll ask again: should I MLB Anira or Therese?
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>>128774290
What do you have in offer?
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>>128774642
Anira.
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>>128774642
Both
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>>128774379
Stop being greedy.
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>>128775392
CALLED
OUT
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>>128775392
Can I have it in his place please? [email protected]
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I'm done mashing that big red button
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>>128775649
What game is this?
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>>128775649
can you do it in one sitting or will you run out of ap?
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>>128775392
Someone people are begging accounts and holding them until English language release so they can sell them, do be careful Giveaway anon-kun.
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>>128775392
What SSR you offering?
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>>128775726
If you use your BP, you don't even need to take a break.
Maybe a 5 minute one if your luck is bad and you don't get rare encounters that drop you 100 EXP
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>>128775392
Nice catch
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>>128775757
people would buy accounts? for what $2? even anchira is 500 yen
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>>128775629
I goofed up
[email protected]
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How fairly mandatory are GW and Bahamut weapons? Can I just focus on Magna weapons without being completely left out endgame-wise? (I don't care about hoarding S-tier SSR characters nor getting MVP). I just want to have fun without being too much of a bother to other players.
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>>128775392
S-sorry, but when you were giving away account I though Magisa was the cute fire alchemist not some sexy milf.
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>>128775876
You underestimate how dumb English players are.
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>>128775876
English players are dumb. In Fate/GO for example there are sites like appsaviors selling reroll accounts for 10~20x its value and it works. Meanwhile you can just buy them from JP Yahoo auctions for 500~800 yen
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>>128775918
>How fairly mandatory
Well it's optimal to have them and if you're going to forego S tier characters every other advantage you can get will help you stay relevant end-game
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>>128775918
GW weapons aren't mandatory unless you want the character. Bahamut weapons are, it will take a long long time for someone to get a good replacement for them(or whaling)
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>>128776048
>>128776094
>that hivemind
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The Idol cardgame just bugs the fuck out of itself.
The Live scenes just stop responding halfway through and for the first 5 levels, it didn't even drain me AP out of whatever that was that you were talking with other idols while getting free dresses out of the street
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>>128775918
GW weapons are required if you want the character and can really help you get a good weapon for your on-hand (Especially Superstar) for any element.

Otherwise they aren't really necessary
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>>128776319
>>128776229
>>128776130
Alright cheers, gonna skip GW for now and focus on Bahamut weapons when I see fit. I'm the type of guy who rather focus on good SR/event characters.

I only plan on blowing money on Surprise tickets.
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>>128775918
You don't really have to do anything extraordinary to get Bahamut weapons. You'll be flooded with the rusted weapons from angel halo shit, and once you get rank 80 and can summon a bahamut you get a free horn for making your first weapon.

And you don't really have to carry your weight or do anything special for the Proto Bahamut fight.
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>>128776580
>missing out on Sarasa
your loss
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>>128776580
Just so you know, GW chars are the strongest characters you can get without the gacha
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>>128774647
>>128775778
>>128775917
Already gave the accounts with 2 to 3 SSRs. This is all I have now.
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Couldn't find anything in the faqs, are the SR rainbow weapons that are 50 event points just for experience or what? Seems too good to be true
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>>128776972
yes. they drop like candy from magna and angel quest
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>>128776094
And then there's Granblue where you can buy a start dash ticket for 30 bucks and somehow feel superior
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>>128776952
>>128775917
I'll take Amira please.
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>>128776952
Albert pllease
[email protected]
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>>128776832
The game throws you so many gems so it isn't really an issue.
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>>128775649
what campaign game is this, i started the bahamut one and i got no clue whats going on.
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>>128777072
It comes with a 10-roll ticket as well so it's a good deal regardless.
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>>128777319
Knights. Bahamut doesn't work unless you're on bluestacks.
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>>128776952
Do you have Silva?
If not I'll take Percival [email protected]
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>>128776952
could I get Percy
Email:[email protected]
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>>128777401
>The SSR character worth 30 bucks comes with an item that can be obtained within a day by gem costs so that makes it perfectly normal!
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>>128777635
>in a day
Maybe if you're new, eventually the 10 roll handouts dry up outside of events/log-in boosts

Also with start dash you at least have the option of getting the "limited/seasonal" characters easy because you don't have to whale for them.

For surprise ticket yeah it's basically just spender haven for people who already spend a lot of time on the game
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>>128777415
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>>128775876
>>128776048
>>128776094
I'm looking forward to selling my 2 Lucifer / 3 Bahamut accounts that I've been babysitting on-and-off for months.

One Bahamut has Vampy pulled from random gacha/gem gifts as well, and they all have anywhere from 5-20 SR chars and the odd SSR.
One Lucifer has SSR Sheep and 21 single pull ticket/6000 gems remaining, I'm expecting to get at least $200-300+ USD for that one from some sucker. It's probably taken around 1-2 hours of babysitting, cumulative across the prior months.
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>>128777775
When else would someone use a start dash ticket? A year after playing the game? Of course when he's new. Listen to yourself
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>>128777635
It's the same price as a 10 roll anyway, really bad trolling desu
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>>128777635
I've seen far worse gacha systems.
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>>128777838
These people are just assholes. You should stop giving accounts away.

How come you have that many rerolls, anyway?
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>>128776952
>>128777838
Are you the guy who gave me the Yuel/Cerb account? If so thank you for your hard work. I've been enjoying the game thanks to you.
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>>128777838
As a f2p dark is too hard for me anyway.
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>>128777193
Albert Anon here, thank you very much, I can start the game with a great start now, I can finally trash my shitty main.
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>>128776952
do you still have amira? would i get fucked over hard starting as her as f2p? i dont know who else is cute on that list
[email protected]
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>>128777838
These ungrateful people.
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>thread suddenly becomes ghetto
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>>128778736
dindonuffin'
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>>128777635
>10 roll is 3000 yen
>10 roll + SSR of your choice is 3000 yen
wow you've really opened my eyes, anon. surprise tickets and start dashes really are worthless!
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What would have to happen for Yuel 5* to break the Percival/Clarice meta
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>>128778863
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>>128779129
def down is not even meta, it's quality of life.
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>>128779129
Metera already broke it with her superior damage.
If you need fear you're honestly a baddie who needs to git gud.
There's also going to be another fire SSR after the Yuel 5* so expect that to maybe be good too.
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>>128779129
That meta is dead as fuck already.
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>>128779129
Nothing. The meta will be Percy/Clarice/Yuel for people who don't have sheep. Sheepfags will continue to use her over either Yuel (for solo) or Clarice (for raids).

inb4 newfags claim Metera will ever be meta
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>>128779487
>Yuel 5* will be a sheep replacement meme
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>>128779579
>le not being able to read meme
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inb4 Yuel 5* becomes naruto
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>>128779397
>If you need fear you're honestly a baddie who needs to git gud
If you use anything above an R character you're just a baddie who needs to git gud
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Would it be a big mistake to re-shift my focus to Wind if the GW char that I most want to make is Nio? Just finished the max LB celestial spear as well.

I feel sick trying to get more drops from Celeste; and according to the study done on the drop rates, the prime elements have 3x the drop rate for SSRs compared to Celeste/Chevalier.
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>>128779762
If you want Nio make her, you're going to have to/want to make other elements eventually anyways.
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>there are people in this thread right now that abandoned their waifu for esports
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>>128779762
>Celeste and Chev point shops finally launch
>All of their SSRs are 15k points
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>>128779953
What if my waifu is esports?
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>>128779953
>implying DOKKAN isn't waifu mat
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>>128779762
I started with dark and I'm switching my main focus to fire.
It was pretty depressing to spend all day on half BP running Celeste to have the same amount of SSRs from running Colossus every now and then.
Turns out the advice to not start with dark or light isn't a meme.
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>>128780210
Just not dedicated enough. Sell your Naru and start over
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>>128779953
I would never abandon her
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>>128780210
you're also going to find out that fire is the weakest element isn't (sadly) a meme either
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>>128780210
git gud enough to solo or 50% chev/cele
red boxes have higher chances
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>>128779953
I still use her though
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>>128780371
>not earth
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>>128778106
Who are you using as your summon?
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>>128780371
>weakest element has def down 25%/anti-debuff/dispel/fear
earth def down 25% when
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>>128780530
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>>128780210
Those sounds like the words of a quitter. Are you a quitter?
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>>128780564
Who needs that when others will do it for you.
And for solo you don't need it.
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>>128780404
Yeah, 3~4 percent per red box.
>>128780428
Earth has like zero problems killing things, has good magna weapons and has all its support niches filled, the only bad parts are nonexistent baha synergy and having to grind for both GW charas if you want to be max esports. Fire only has Percy carrying it.
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>>128780619
Isn't Cerberus holding off your team?
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>>128780035
What came first, the waifu or the esports
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>>128780371
I could go water but fire has more waifus.

>>128780404
>Red boxes
>Ever dropping anything good
Is this a meme?

>>128780648
Yes
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>amira request ignored
forever no waifu
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Just starting out and got Sara, she's cute but is she good?
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Did anyone hanging around here make Nio or did you all pick Song/etc for cute + esports combo?


>>128780210
I started originally with fire but a few clicks on Celeste in my first few days of playing got me 2 axes during the 1/2 magna event, then I start dashed Narumeia. Those axes remain the only two axes I've gotten after running Celeste more times than anyone would want to keep track of (and I'm sure, a tiny fraction of the number many people have run it).

>>128780404
The info from the one study suggests red boxes from Celeste/Chevalier have about a 4% drop rate for SSRs, compared to around 12% for the prime elements. It's a number so low you're nearly dealing with the same rates as the real gacha in the game. Not that its bad to get the red boxes or anything, its certainly good.
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>>128780981
Best tank in the game.
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>>128780782
>Earth has like zero problems killing things
>implying fire has problems killing things
>wut
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>>128780981
Top tier throughout the entire game. But as a tank, so don't expect her to murder your enemies
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>>128780981
She's the best tank in the game and you can throw her onto any element if you are having survivability issues
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>>128780979
Just roll her
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>>128780979
I requested before you did m8 but got nothing too.
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>>128780793
She deals half the damage of my team but makes up for it with debuffs. Blind/Charm/Burn etc
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>>128781045
I made Sarasa because she's the cutest
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>>128781125
maybe cuz you were trying to jew him after getting an account already
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>>128781053
Fire does the least damage of all elements, everything outdamages it.
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>>128780782
>Earth has two of the best GW characters
>Fire has fucking Esser
Why is this allowed?
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>>128781229
>Sarasa
>one of best GW char
nuh-uh
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>>128780927
at least you're enjoying the game for the waifu not e-sport.
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>>128781223
Only if you don't use Metera.
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>>128781221
>call Amira his waifu
>wait for another dude to hand her over to him
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>>128781416
Jeeta a cute
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>>128781229
Sarasa hits things hard but you can't compare her to Suwabe or Paralady.
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>>128781618
fathers hand over their daughters and theyre guys
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>>128781416
>I misclicked and called out after ougi refrehing
I did that once in a guild members raid before. I felt awful.
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>>128781318
Thalatha was good back then when everyone was weak
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>>128781739
>not having all public unchecked
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>>128781623
Octo hits harder and more esport, Sarasa is waifu material though.

>>128781759
More like there wasn't any choices in Earth dps chars. And there still isn't.
>looking at naru yoda metera
>fuck eustace whyudodis
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>>128781739
>>128781416
"Called out" what does it mean?
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>>128781920
Just use Gandalf, Sarasa and Octo in the same team, see things explode.
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>>128781970
Make the raid public I assume
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>>128781970
Opening the floodgates.
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>>128781970
Use your common sense retard
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>>128781970
Posting the raid public.
You can refresh to skip ougi animation but when you do so it opens up the menu to post the raid again.
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>cygames releasing all these characters with overly complicated skills with stacking shit and specific windows like Eustace, Beatrix and Metera
>they're worse than characters that require 1/4th of the effort to use in both damage and utility
Literally why bother
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>>128782014
replace Gandalf with Jin and have Imai notice you during large-scale battles.
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>>128782259
That's something a lot of the new people playing the game lack

Hence all the stupid questions
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>>128777243
They can throw gems at me, but christ the rates don't make you feel any better.
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>>128782705
Probably because they don't want to make straight-up clones of what's top tier but may be scared to put out a unit that completely shits on said top-tier because powercreep kills games.
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>>128782705
>Metera
>Complicated
>Bad
You literally just press q and proceed to do almost double damage on your attacks.
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>>128781416
The daily life of a leecher.jpg
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>>128782705
>Metera
>hard to use
Just use her first skill, auto for 4 turns, ougi, use her other two skills, use her first skill again, repeat.
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It's just that bad game designer(s) think those stack idea is super cool and making a bunch of them. By looking at SSR Rosetta, I'm pretty sure they don't even play their own game.
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Is there any way to get basic books and orbs outside of their dailies? I need to lb some characters and I'm missing those.
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>>128783260
raids
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>>128783000
>Press q
Fucking dota
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>>128783153
They use stacks as limiters, if they removed those stacks you'd get Naru.
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>>128782705
You can't be this much of an inept
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>>128783260
They're easily found in the guide
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>>128783153
they do, they're just bad at it.
They released Nataku despite failing to clear it themselves and he's the easiest of the bunch with Makky
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>>128783329
It's just devs circlejerking while making cookie cutter chars but with stack system, that ain't gonna make them any better.
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https://twitter.com/tarutarurdm/status/685428264005808128
Get recruited and go help them.
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>>128783734
>Adjusting Game Balance
>Medusa HL
did they finally realize they cannot balance fucking shit?
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>>128782956
Releasing a bunch of garbage SSRs that nobody wants because of how bad they are kills the game too

Especially because they don't even bother to buff units that are universally renowned as dogshit like Dark Saru, Garbagegouza and Heles
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>>128776952
Is Percival still available?
[email protected]
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>>128783329
>if they removed those stacks you'd get Naru
>tfw every Dark SSR ever released will forever be shit because they aren't Naru
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>>128784256
A buff can't safe them except maybe heles
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>all this talk about naru being good
>my first ssr
>no idea how to use her
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>>128784256
Gorgonzola and Dank Saruman are memes, they would not be any more popular if they got buffed unless they somehow became top tier for their element meta, and that would require completely changing them.
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>>128784537
READ NIGGA READ
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>>128784403
There's always going to be a "best", even if it's only incrementally better than the second best. That doesn't make everything else shit.
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>>128784537
Reading would be the first step
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>>128784617
>bea
>there are only three slots you know
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>>128784537
Hit the enemies until they died.
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>>128784617
In a game where you can just take the best with a surprise ticket, yes it does. If you aren't on the top you're worthless. Saying "I'm going to use someone that isn't Naru" is the same as saying "I shouldn't be playing Dark"
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>>128784537
Way too many retards here.
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>>128784713
Were you trying to imply something?

>>128784782
Errrr, no it doesn't.
>you can just take the best with a surprise ticket
Once every 3-4 months you can grab the "best" character of one of 6 elements at the current time.
>if you aren't on top, you're worthless
It takes more than one character to make a team, friend. And even if Naru continues to be the objective "best" dark character in the future, there's no guarantee that there won't be a better composition that doesn't use her.
>all this hyperbole
It's clear you're super angry about something, but the reality is that there are literally dozens of good characters outside of Naru that people use in their teams. And spoiler warning: dark isn't the be-all end-all element.
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Explain this Cygames
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>>128770547
of course, for more confusion you'd still pronounce a U in there, because MUH GREEK was the apparent intention.

>>128769304
and yet you don't -really- take him with you unless you pull him from the gacha because after rosetta cygames got greedy about it.
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>>128785374
>hyperbole
>someone is GW shamer
Naru is gbf equivalent of event multiplier card in other mobile games. If she does not get used in the future, it means the game balance went full retard.
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>>128783734
>>128783904
Will fire teams be saved now?
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>>128776707
I don't want to miss out on her, but by the time I'd actually have her I'd have nothing left to do and probably be sick of the game anyway. alas...
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>>128776952
Still have the Hanriette account ?
[email protected]
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>>128785374
>All this hyperbole
Tier lists are hyperbole now? Also every single character released since Naru has been far inferior to her, in terms of impact on their own elements or otherwise unless you count Yoda cheesing.

They're either not S tier on their own or there was already a better alternative to them in the A tier that makes them irrelevant because they don't fit anywhere
>It takes more than one character to make a team
Percival with top tier Rs probably gives you a better fire team than Heles with anyone that isn't already in the S tier for fire
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>>128786067
>thinking you'll be done with the game by the time you get your first GW
The game is barely starting then.
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>>128785374
>literally dozens of good characters outside of Naru that people use in their teams
>Literally
>Dozens
Are you trying to trigger me or do you not know what the word literally or a dozen means?
Also when people use other characters it's not because they're good, it's because they don't have a better option until the next ticket or lucky roll.

The Naru part is just one example.
>If you're not using birdman you shouldn't be playing wind
>If you're not using Altair you shouldn't be playing water
>If you're not using Percy you shouldn't be playing fire
>If you're not using Jeanne you shouldn't be playing light
>If you're playing earth enjoy your shit team regardless
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>Flip on baha
Why do they do this to me.
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>>128786731
>Double flip on baha
>Two gold certs
I've never been so mad
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>>128786460
So, in vice versa, if I'm using Altair, I should be playing water?
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>>128786731
At least you got silver cert.
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>>128786460
>tfw have none of them
rip.
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>>128786871
Altair is just op so use him wherever you want desu senpai
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>>128786964
It's okay those are just for esports.
Any team with an SSR that isn't meme tier is good enough, just not the best it could be for that element.
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>>128786460
Man, you are super angry, aren't you?
>literally dozens
6 elements. 3 characters per active team (>implying you don't want good sub teams as well)
That's 18 characters if there was actually only one build per element that people used. In reality there are several for early game, magnas, events, and HL raids. That's easily 24.
SO:
Yes
Literally
Dozens
D O Z E N S
12. TWELVE. 10 + 2.
MULTIPLEs OF THAT NUMBER
Seriously, you can't really be this retarded, can you?

>>128786454
>tier lists
Are you trying to make a point? I've never disputed from my first post that some characters are better than others. That doesn't mean that literally one character makes every other character in the game redundant and useless, which is what you dumb niggers seem to want to argue.
>Percival with top tier Rs is better than ____
Since none of you mouth-breathing retards understand what hyperbole means, what you just said is a prime example of it. "Percival + 2 Rs" being better than some random team you can come up with doesn't make every fire SSR useless. In fact, of all the hundreds of possible combinations of teams, the majority of those random combinations are going to be better than Percival + 2Rs.

I honestly don't even know what point you're trying to make, anymore. Percival + good characters is going to be better than Percival + bad characters. Thus we've just proven that those "good characters" are useful.

I know I shouldn't argue with people who don't even apparently understand English, but I can't help it when you guys are just this retarded.
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>>128786871
Altair, Sara, Yoda(until endgame) and a few more that I forgot are so powerful they fit anywhere.
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>>128787358
>Calls other people mad
>Mouth-breathing retards insults
You're the maddest one here
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>>128785901
did percy and lanchan have a baby?
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>>128787343
There are also SR that blow some of the SSR out of the water like Catarina. pun intended
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Should I try and get a white rabbit drop before I start investing a lot of time into angel boost hour for the GW char grind?

I've got some mild PTSD after watching the one nico video of the guy trying the map 400 times before getting it. I don't have a strong Erun team either and I don't even know if I can kill the boss.
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>>128787358
Here we go again.
>Naru shits on everyone
>Unless new char is stronger than Naru (which indicates the game is going shithole) in they won't be used.
>If someone isn't waifufag, there is no point using inferior chars.
It's not that hard to understand, Please understand desu.
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>>128787651
Damn, you sure showed him.
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>>128787358
I think you're the angriest one of them
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>>128787742
Use a support or bring Hawkeye with Treasure Hunt 2 EX'ed.
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>>128787742
Don't even think about it unless you have hundreds of pots, but maybe you can get lucky.
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E-sports cancer are worse than Beatrix posters.
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>>128787785
Here we go again.
>There are multiple elements.
>There are multiple characters on a team.
It's not that hard to understand. I know you don't speak English, but hopefully you can at least piece together that much.
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>>128788047
Multiple elements about what? Were you trying to use Dark team against other elements or thinking Naru can stomp every element? Can someone interpret this?
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>Naru
>high tier
High rank Nips drop her because she doesn't do damage fast enough.
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>Not playing for cute boys and girls.

Shame on all of you
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>>128787358
Ok, when are you bringing Heles, Ghandagouza, Dark Saru, Melleau, Karmelina, Les Fie, Beatrix, Cerberus, Agielba, Sochie, Lily, Monkey, etc (Too many to name really). to any of that content where "DOZENS" are viable?

Hint you aren't because they're all trash no matter what content you're doing and these garbage characters exist in every element while characters like Vampi, Percival, and Jeanne are S tier no matter what you're doing
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>>128788030
That's actually a proper discussion of the mechanics of the game. Much better than the usual waifu discussion that gets nowhere and it's a waste of space, and should belong to /c/.
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>>128787358
>6 elements. 3 characters per active team (>implying you don't want good sub teams as well)
Are you retarded?
The conversation was about Naru so why would we be talking about other elements that aren't dark?
Even more so why would you add up characters across all elements together to be dozens, are you that desperate to prove yourself right on after being called out?
You have a single element team, you do not have dozens of good characters to fill those spots because most elements don't even have a dozen SSRs unless you count GW characters & seasonals you dumb fucking subhuman.
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>>128788213
>naru was the key char during the last light boss GW event
>drop her
>ok
I know you are just shitter, but whatever.
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>>128788030
I prefer shitflinging about the game than repetitive waifumeming and posting
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>>128788296
I really hope you're being deliberately obtuse, because nobody can seriously be this retarded.

Hint: Implying that dozens of characters are good and usable doesn't imply that all 60+ SSRs are usable and good.
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>>128788473
>Dozens are good and usable
Yeah maybe in the game total but not in each element
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>>128788473
Usable in terms of
>I can literally put a char in a slot
>I'm pisspoor/unlucky so I don't have the char so I have to use what I have
Is that what you're implying? This is getting more retarded.
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>Cygames searching for a game-balancer
>/gbfg/ applies and lands the job.

Alright lets hear your wishes.
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>>128788775
Make Naru Dark Saru tier
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>>128788775
Buff waifus
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>>128788775
Actually they'd been doing pretty good before they released Naru.
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This meta bullshit discussion.
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>>128788775
Nerf Naru. Reduce her buff and lengthen the number of waiting turns.
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>>128788775
gandalf gets a five star and fenrir is made playable, as is a ferri ssr

fenrir does debuffs and ferri's ougi has an effect that occurs the turn after the ougi
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>>128788775
bring Anira back or make clone.
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>>128788363
Considering my original post mentioned that there were dozens of usable SSRs and never constrained that argument to dark, I'd say you're backtracking or just can't read. Considering there are no elements with "dozens" of SSRs in them, I have no idea how that couldn't be abundantly clear even to the most retarded /vg/ posters (which you really shouldn't be proud to count yourself among).

>>128788613
No shit. See above.

>>128788661
You should probably stop posting if you know so little about this game that you continue to make this retarded "hurrrrr every one of my teams is Naru/Percy/Altair" argument.
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>>128788775
give Baha dagger another passive to effect every other race at a reduced rate.
Be able to fuse weapon passives, with chance of failure and add GW reward item to increase the chances
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>>128789050
>Dozens of viable SSRs in the game total
>Literally 3-4 per element and everything else is garbage
Ok I'm glad we finally agree now that we understand what the other was saying
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Wow, Lecia's dad is pretty swag.
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>>128788954
>>128788298
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>>128789050
>y-you know nothing shut up
I bet you haven't even tried 6-man HL or are doing shit in GW. Give me some actual retort than shitpost.
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>>128789189
>Lecia
Who?
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>>128789183
So I was completely 100% correct all along that Naru existing doesn't make every other SSR in the game worthless?

Thanks for acknowledging that.

>>128789236
I'd rather spend effort arguing with people who can speak English. You know this is an English imageboard, right?
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>>128789342
You are being a disappointment. Show me your pool.
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>>128789342
I didn't mean to imply she makes every other SSR in the game worthless, just that she makes every other SSR in Dark aside from Vampy, Grey and maybe H.Cag depending on the fight worthless

And that since her release cygames has released 0 SSRs that are on par with her in other elements (Fire Metera is not going to cause people to stop using Clarice and Percival), so their top SSRs remain undisturbed making them worthless releases.
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>>128789219
>proper disscussion
>this
It's literally multiple howler monkeys yelling "nuh uh" at each other.
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>>128789424
>I have no argument and talk like a retard, better divert attention by demanding people in thread to show off completely unrelated magna-farming accomplishments while posting none of my own
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>>128789050
>Saying "I'm going to use someone that isn't Naru" is the same as saying "I shouldn't be playing Dark"
>dozens of good characters outside of Naru that people use in their teams
>Hurr we're totally not talking about dark characters guys I totally knew how much a dozen was before I googled it
So what you're telling me is you replied with completely redundant shit which had nothing to do with what was said so you're a retard, or you're trying to cover your retarded fuck up and therefore still a retard.
You could also just be a fucking retarded newfag who thinks grande teams are a normal thing and people run Naru in every team.
No matter what you're a fucking retard.
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>>128788775
Unusable characters like Dark Saru, Ganda and Carmelina get their skills revised so they're not counter-productive.

Once a year, you can buy a ticket that lets you roll for all characters of the game, limit the number so we don't get another pants on head retarded "scandal" because some nips spend too much money. This will help with all the newfags that will go "tfw can't have Anira" in the future.

Create a meaningful character synergy system so that a wider variety of teams become viable, through either skills that work better when used in combination or buffs after completing a quest or something.
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>>128789604
>I'm noob but I know this game trust me
>throwing out retard logics and calling others retard
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>>128789295

Lisha/Liscia or however else people spell it.
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>>128789613
>completely leaving out the intermediary post stating "there will always be a best. that doesn't make every other character worthless"
>implying that trying to refute that claim wasn't what set off this whole string of shitposting
You continue to impress me with how retarded you are and how selectively you read.
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>>128789690
>Create a meaningful character synergy system so that a wider variety of teams become viable
Baha weapons were a mistake
>Human Bonus
>More than 50% of the game's SSRs are humans
>Most top tier SSRs are humans
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>>128788775
Add this qt into the game.
Make more unusual-element characters that aren't human (water doraf, dark erun, wind harbin,etc.)
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>>128789863
Because we are the superior race.
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Old man smokes weed lmao
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>>128789863
>look at all these bahamut weapons you can choose from
>everyone picks dagger and sword regardless
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>>128789825
Please just go back to Facebook with the rest of your SEA friends and stop ban evading already.
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>>128788775
Dark Saru, Ghanda and Heles reworked/in queue for a good 5*
Additional buffs to Magisa's skills on 5*
Swap the aggro up/down effects on Bear
I don't have many characters so I can't tell what others need
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>>128790096
Answer this simple question first:
Assume you have Naru and a char inferior to Naru got released, will you use it?
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>>128790096
Dear god I thought we left this chucklefuck back in mbgg
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>>128790282
*that
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>>128789838
>There will always be a best, that doesn't make other characters worthless
But most elements top tiers remain top tier no matter what content you're doing

Once you have Jeanne and Amira those character slots are never going to anyone else, same with Percival and Clarice or Vampi and Naru

Aside from the 3rd slot which -SOMETIMES- may get changed depending on what level of content you're doing (Like Sara in earth if you're doing HL) anything that is released in that "role" that isn't better than those units is without a doubt worthless.
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>>128790262
Yes. Even in dark (which is what you should EXPLICITLY state in your question), the best team will either be the best 3 characters, or the best synergistic combination of characters. If the new character (which I'll assume for the sake of your question is dark) is better than the second and third best characters or creates a better total synergy, it will be used.
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>>128790572
Of course it's fucking dark, does this guy even play the game?
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>>128789838
>completely leaving out the intermediary post stating "there will always be a best. that doesn't make every other character worthless"

That post has nothing to do with anything, you were not replying to that post when you spewed retardation everywhere so don't bother backtracking trying to save face.
You were replying to a post which stated Naru was the best dark and replied THERE'S LITERALLY DOZENS OF CHARACTERS OUTSIDE OF NARU
Fucking kill yourself you fucking third world monkey.
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>>128788775
>game-balancer
erase every weapon's skill, all weapon have 150 hp 1500 atk
replace every chara's skill with : burn, burn, heal
replace every chara stats with 2000 hp 5000 atk
raids don't have ults

There you go. Balance!!!
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>>128790976
>not enough meme
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>>128790976
Not true balance, some characters will be used more than others because people find them more appealing. You need to balance that too.
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>>128791319
>All characters now have a main weapon slot to switch elements
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>>128791319
they can all be ganda so they can all be unappealing

i call moustache doraf ganda as a waifu, as opposed to midgetbait ganda
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>>128791319
>Every character is Cag
Fixed
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>>128788376
She takes too many clicks if you're rushing.
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>>128790485
That's a much broader topic of discussion, and one I'm inclined to agree with.

>>128790786
Please calm down, anon. You're raging super hard and it's making it hard for you to understand even basic concepts. I'll try to lay it out in a way that even you could understand.
>first post says every dark SSR ever released will be shit because they aren't Naru
>reply saying that there will always be a best, that doesn't make everything else shit
>"nuh uh, yes it does" "if you aren't on top you're worthless
>reply that clearly addresses the point that a dark team requires 2 more characters, and you had clearly left out the very real possibility of a new dark character dethroning naru. I then go on to broaden the argument and explain that, regardless of element, the presence of a "top" doesn't completely invalidate every other character.
>you get triggered by the second half of my argument, and get stuck on the word "dozens" without being able to actually read words put together at a middle-school level
>you get so hung up on proving me wrong about "lol ur so dumb there's not dozens of Narus in dark" that you make yourself look like a total retard rather than just accepting the fact that you're wrong.

It really wasn't that hard to follow, anon. Even a retard like you can figure this stuff out if you calm down for a few minutes.
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>>128791738
are they switching to beato? who's deepsing if not naru?
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>>128791942
Vira/Gray/Vampy
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>>128791319
Characters can be replaced with elemental orbs, which will just be floating balls of the color of each element, they don't have names, only their element like Earth Orb, Water Orb etc so they are not discriminated based on name. They are all voiced by the same person and have the same personality which will be a super standard low profile personality so none of them stands out.
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>>128792002
Oh, yeah we've been over this before, sorry, -30% def and such
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>>128791750
I finally found the problem this guy has.
>every dark SSR ever released will be shit because they aren't Naru
This sentence implies new dark SSR [attacker] must be better than Naru, but he failed to comprehend and took it literally. End of discussion guys.
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>>128788775
Buff Magna drop rates and receive praise from everyone. Then make D Saru busted as fuck.
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>>128788775
Remove surprise gatcha. There, now people don't care about the most optimal teams as much and can clear stuff with whatever they got from the RNG.
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>>128792428
They still would if pad is any experience.
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>>128792428
>implying removing surprise gacha fixes anything when all the e-sports will whale themselves to victory
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>>128792257
ebin xD you sure shoed that guy
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>>128792428
The only thing this changes is now whales will get their optimal teams no matter what but now I can't get my waifu
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>>128792606
Well, they'd make more money this way. That's something.
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>>128793007
Go away, can't you see we're busy being autistic.
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>>128791750
>Better cherry pick parts of the conversation and even rewrite it
Yeah you're a fucking retard.
I'll just point you back to your post so you can actually read what you said and have an extra (You)
>>128785374

>broaden the argument and explain that, regardless of element, the presence of a "top" doesn't completely invalidate every other character.
If you reread your post you would know you actually didn't say any of this, you just carried on about Naru.
And again I will quote
>literally dozens of good characters outside of Naru.
I'm pretty sure you're just a retard who doesn't play the game if you think people run Naru in any team that isn't dark so you can apply that statement to other elements.
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>>128793007
you first
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For anons that know jap, this is a very good site with really great explanations one the characters mechanics etc.
http://greatsundome.hatenablog.com/
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>>128793206
gobbless
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>>128793142
>>128790572
>you should EXPLICITLY state
>I'll assume for the sake of your question is dark
You're right anon, he does not play the game.
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>>128793007
Great tank, great feet
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I think Beatrix is a slut and she got raped by midgets.
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>>128788775
Give fire a decent ougi generator and a DA/TA enabler
Upgrade Yueru abi2 cap to 420k
Rework or kick out Gandha
Rework or change Helues element
Up Io (Swimsuit) caps on abi1 (420k) and abi2 (125k / hit)
Up Grey abi1 cap to 620k or put the slow there
Magisa upgrade abi1 ATK DOWN to 15%~20%, Upgrade abi2 to 20%/15% (atk/def)
Metera (both) upgrade charm accuracy
Anira, make a clone
Zeta give her a 5* with DA/TA engine as 4th skill, raise her abi3 cap to 420k
Sutera (fire) make her SSR, upgrade her parameters/abilities modifiers
Colo Katana, transform it to atk up (M) crit (s)
Create a light char with aggro up / defender-type
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>>128793142
>complains about cherry picking
>goes on to cherry pick
Wow, way to take the high road!
>you didn't say any of this
It was already stated. Almost verbatim.
>"There's always going to be a "best", even if it's only incrementally better than the second best. That doesn't make everything else shit"
>"literally dozens of good characters outside of Naru"
This was a direct reply to "if you're not on top, you're worthless". Notice how neither of those statements had the word "dark" in them? I know you didn't. That's why you carried on pretending that I had said "dozens of dark characters" until you finally calmed down enough to realize I hadn't and had never meant that.

>>128793552
>>>>>>facebook
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>>128793206
Probably gonna give it a go at translating it to a txt.
Should I keep the damage calculation formulas and all of that, or just character mechanics?
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>>128792586
PAD does not have the end-all-be-all team. RaDra is the king, but you can still clear Ultimate Arena with Yomidra, AI&I, hell, even shit like Christmas Echidna managed to do that. Most importantly, PAD is a single-player game at its core, unless you're playing co-op or ranking, there's no reason to go full esports as long as your team can clear the dungeon at hand.
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>>128794240
Every info helps anon.
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>>128794240
Everything is always better but take your time, there's no need to hurry on this. And thanks for helping the community man.
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>Colo Katana sucks
FOR WHAT PURPOSE DOES IT EXIST
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>>128794553
To take up the space of literally any other colo magna
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>>128794553
To cuck you out of a staff drop
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>>128794553
Easy fire katana. Although there's no point in going samurai unless you're playing earth so yeah. Guess you could abuse it with Magisa, Agieruba and Catman?
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>>128794884
>>128794924
>>128794748
But I mean Staff is a pretty weak option due to how low the base attack is, couldn't they have added a half decent secondary option?

I don't understand the reasoning behind not making magna weapons standardized to an extent
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>>128795116
HRT is on drugs most of the time.
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>>128795116
I wonder what Chev/Cel are gonna get.
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>>128794176
>literally dozens of good characters outside of Naru
>Notice how neither of those statements had the word "dark" in them?
You're talking about Naru, you're not talking about any other element but dark if you're talking about Naru. It really shouldn't be that hard to comprehend because nobody runs non-mono element teams outside of niche or whale lineups.

I know it's your first week here and Grande seems like an OP summon but in future posts when you mention a character you're talking about within their elements because that's all people use them for outside of a specific few.

There's also the possibility that you're just autistic and need everyone to specifically point out they're talking about within dark teams when talking about a dark character because you're too autistic to pick up on it.
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>>128795326
Celeste's fists are probably going to be the less HP, more attack sort of thing. Unless they make it yet another HP passive weapon
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balance changes? how about making other baha weapons useful for fucks sake besides the common dagger/sword/axe
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>>128795575
They'd have to introduce useful characters from other races first
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I'm glad no one from here would ever even be considered for helping cygames with balance, just have to hope japs aren't as bad as we are
Any more details on who/when will help them or anything like that?
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>>128795575
They would be if the other races had characters good enough that existed in a sufficient quantity in the other elements.

I mean you have Yuel/Heles/Metera in Fire now but that's not good enough to justify the spear.
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Do "Unknowns" benefit from multiple baha weapons? If so, do you guys think I should make the baha axe/spear then after the dagger/sword? My dark team is currently Gray/Vampy/Cerb.
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>>128796069
>just have to hope japs aren't as bad as we are
As in, they won't buff Ghanda, DSaru and the rest?
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>>128796069
>Baha weapons were a good idea
>Naru was a good idea
>All these useless HP passive weapons were a good idea
Do you honestly believe this?
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What are you expecting of Chev sword and Cele fist? I hope they don't go full retard like giving counter like Colo fist.
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>>128796439
As in they'll push for buffs/fixes for charaters that need them, JUST LIKE GHANDA, and not try to force the memes just for the sake of memes
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>>128796069
>The japs aren't as bad as we are
>Japs created Ghandagouza, Karmelina, Dark Saru and Heles
>Then they turned around and made Naru without ever fixing any of those characters
I might not trust the autists of /gbfg/ with many things, but even the biggest retard in this thread would be able to design skill kits better than those
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>>128796501
Always expect the retarded
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>>128796501
Crit up
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>>128796397
They benefit from only the highest ones, if you have lvl 5 dagger and lvl 10 axe equipped, axe applies.
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>>128796659
jap players, not cygames, we all know companies creating games are fucking retards
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>>128796815
lol
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>>128796815
>Cygames hires japs
>Japs aren't allowed to fix old characters because there's no profit in it
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Is Anira's 1st skill worth clicking in raid or is it like Yuel's 2nd skill where I should just ignore it outside of AoE clearing
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>>128797586
Yuel's second skill is great once upgraded, even if it's AoE.
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What was the way to get the twitter refill without sending a tweet?
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>>128797162
What is it, and also what's this thing?
Are they just trash/fodder?

I've gotten both from Zeph and I'm new.
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>>128797586
400k-ish cap is decent enough to be clicked.
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>>128798490
Gacha charaless SRs.
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>>128798470
You can't do that anymore to my knowledge
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>>128795441
It's ok, anon. We know you can't read. Just get over it and move on. You made some retarded comments and were proved wrong. It happens to every retard.
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Anyone know whats a good earth human setup? I was thinking cagli/sara and summer vira?
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>>128798685
So do I just let it tweet and then delete it?
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Is there any specific reason why a lot of the pages for the fire Eruns on the gbfwiki talk about Agnis?
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>>128798978
No one cares about your tweets anon

Do whatever
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what does flip mean talking about drops>
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>>128798978
Just make a new account only for refill purpose.

>>128799078
Agnis build does not require Bahamut weapons, so there is no racism.
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>>128799183
Is the bahamut spear that bad?
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>>128799259
Zeus series (Zeus, Hades, Agnis, etc.) does not need any Bahamut weapons in its nature because damage formula something something, not that bahamut spear is unusable.
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How do I get skill up food?

Would doing hards or Boss rush be better?
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>>128799460
I'm guessing this requires whaling for good SSR gacha weapons and maxing them? I have Agnis but he's 0* and I wouldn't want to use my GW LB tickets on him if it's going to be impossible
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>>128798889
Sara/Cag/Gandalf or ditch Sara and use Vira if you luck into her, L90 Solidus is a solid option too.
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>>128799131
Its when the gold chest does a flip. It indicates a rarer drop.
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>>128799670
It depends but normally you need 6 normals, 2 unknowns and 2 magnas. The 6 should be at least attack large or its equivalent.

The benefits of using Agnis is that you can use your waifus without penalty and you don't need to use god awful manga staffs. LBing Agnis would take around 6 months if your guild is doing average, but for weapons, you either go whale or farm Ifirit weapons or event ones with attack.
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>>128800153
Suzaku katana is a thing too.
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>>128800469
Of course, I hope they restock it for the next rerun.
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>>128800153
Hypothetically if you wanted to go whalimus maximus and didn't care about other characters couldn't you just Surprise ticket Yuel's axe, Altair's Sword and Magisa's staff or something over and over?
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>>128800916
You want the 4* fire gun if you want to enter full whale mode.
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>>128800916
Whale that will pierce the heavens should pick chara-less weapons.
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Should I worry about seperating my characters into different teams for each element in the beginning or is that for mid/late game?
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Chibi Jeanne with Charlotte sword so cute
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>>128801765
Either
>focus on one element
>have advantage for one element but fucked up for the another 5
Or
>focus on all element
>being half-assed good until about 4 months or so
Or
>just grab memegrande
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>>128802173
Thanks, but what's memegrande? I feel afraid for asking
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>>128788775
Nerf Superstar
Buff Alchemist
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>>128802590
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>>128802590
A summon that gives a 100% buff to attack (200% at 3 star) to your whole team if you have 3 different elements in it. Very strong early game, but falls off by the end since you will want to build a weapon pool that focuses on buffing one element.
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>>128802173
Focusing on one element at the start makes it easier to spread out later because your one "Gridded" team will be hitting harder than a half-assed grid that is attacking on-element
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>>128802881
>falls off by the end
autism is always an option
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>>128801765
Unless you have Order Grande summon, stick to mono-element teams or dual elements team with the corresponding summons.

You would ultimately want mono-element teams once you get decent weapons decks for each element.
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>>128773437
Is this available in english?
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>>128803125
If you knew english you'd read the OP
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>>128802881
2x200% Grande is a legitimate endgame build.
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I'm going to regret this aren't I?
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>>128802857
>Grande
>Fenrir
>Flam Glass
Why are all these cute girls summons only
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>>128803813
Come for the cute girls, stay because you are entrenched in the grind and because they keep adding more cute girls
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I know this isn't a magma but what the hell.
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I've got 0 of these and no SR spears, what do?

Leviathan for a bit? I don't see any spears in the current event lists I could get to use except the ifrit one.
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>>128804267
Tia spear (HP) and Levi spear (Crit)
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>>128804267
start dash a ssr spear and break it
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>>128804267
Grind levi for SR spears.
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>>128804410
Oh Tia has one, perfect then, I was planning on moving my magna grind to 50/50 celeste/tia soon.
Thanks.
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Do archangel weapons drop only in magna raids?
I've run the hard angel dungeon some times but I only dropped the R ones.
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wtf is this Order of Lumiere shit
Captain went AWOL to become taller
Vice-captain withdrew from the order to bring her back
MiniJeanne also withdrew from the order to become strong or whatever
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>>128805076
The archangel and L17 angel drop archangel weapons in angel boost hour in gold boxes, along with bahamut rusty and etc.
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>GW tickets to let you upgrade your summons
>None for weapons
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>>128805750
That's what the gold bar is for. It also happens to be used for GW charas.
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>>128805867
Oh, the more you know.
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>>128805110
I sure hope they weren't an established police force.

If they were I guess that explains the fucking monsters roaming in the streets.
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>>128805962
Yeah, cygames blew it big time there.
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>>128806067
The setting in general is goofy as fuck.
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>>128806289
While we're on about the story, did the last sidestoy take place on another island? I'm just curious. There's an ocean island, a desert island and a zombie island so a frozen one isn't out of the question, but I'd like to know if or not we actually set foot on something that isn't a hunk of rock in the sky.
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>>128807047
The whole setting is basically just rocks in the sky, so chances are we went to HnK/Mad Max island and beat up midgets.
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>>128807189
Well, alright then.

Is there any explanation for how the RoB characters are here then? There are plenty of them, I assume the game took place on a world with more abundant land. Whatever flavor text for the cards I'm reading doesn't seem to support that or otherwise, though.
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Should we post Beatrix again?
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If I just sit on my 30k points they carry over to the next celestial right?
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>>128808405
Why did you stop in the first place
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DJ a cute!
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>>128808624
DJ a shit

Gran a best boi
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>>128808612
Everyone was saying Beatrix posting was bad. I didn't want them to associate her with that
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>>128808724
better than cagposting
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>>128808624
>has to take responsibility as captain of the GC to provide every male onboard with an outlet for their urges
>can't have them roaming around like horndogs with all those sex machine Dorafs around who would quickly become used, so DJ must step up to the task and provide for everyone

Is there a better captain? The answer is no.
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What do you like the most about cag?
For me, it's that she's the cutest in the world!
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>>128809326
I like that smug face which just looks so eager to suck dick.

My dick.
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>>128789613
I guess I'm hopelessly new, because I can't get a mono team to outperform a full LB grande team.

>no single element summon offers more than a 120% boost (bahamut)
>but a team capitalizing on a 200% boost is weak
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>>128773839
"incedible"
Fix this. She'd stop you and call you a retard before you even finished with that pronunciation.

Had to go out of my way to even post this.
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>>128789690
>carmelina
>unusable
how does it feel to be categorically wrong?

there's a massive difference between "the most popular classes already do what this character does" and "this character doesn't work at all". just how fucking stupid does a person have to be to not understand the difference.
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>>128808954
>Implying DJ is the captain even if she were to be canon
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>>128809761
Double Grande has a 14~15 multiplier when properly built, biggest problems are getting Grande, getting the stones to lb her and unknown weapons for every element.
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>>128810073
She's the captain of the crew's cocks, if nothing else.
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>>128809761
>no single element summon offers more than
Except you're forgetting that all those mono teams also have massive bonuses from a mono weapon grid
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>>128809326
Everything.
>>128809547
What would you give up to be with best girl Cagliostro?
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Just got my 4th bahamut horn.

Bahamut axe for my Naru/Vampy/Vira team
or
Bahamut sword for the above + my wind team?


What's the overall rate of bahamut horns? I have no idea if I got them easily or not.
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>>128810531
You only need 3 or 4 for essential weapons like sword/dagger/axe. Then you don't need to care about it until you max skill one and want to upgrade it to SSR.

Plus, you'll get 1 free from first hosting clear, anyway.
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>>128810974
Oh I see, is making a bunch of the SR versions a normal thing to do rather than using your first 4 for 1 finished one?
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>>128811124
First, skilling up bahamut weapon takes damn long time. You need to burn lots of SSR weapons for it.
Second, you still need two at least. One for full attack, one for attack+HP.
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>>128811565
The most important point is to have at least the SR ATK bahamut weapon since lvl1 is a whooping 20%. You can simply leave it as it is and focus on normal and magna weapons.

And no, you don't need the second baha weapon at all. It just give you a "universal" normal weapon with extra hp, but it is by no means necessary. Heck, at the end game, you will have to remove it.
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Some thoughts I had, for a fire team, does the inherent abilities of Anira outweigh the disadvantage of how shes a Doraf compared to Percy and Clarice being human? How so?
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>>128812749
You don't pick her for damage
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>>128812749
you pick her for skill 2 and 3
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>>128810514
WHAT A THRILL, IM SEARCHING AND I MELT INTO CLAY
WHAT I FEEL IN YOUR THIGHS
BUT AN OLD MAN'S COCK SUPREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEME
I GIVE MY ASS
NOT FOR ANAL
BUT FOR YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
IM STILL
NOT HOMOSEXUAL
ASS EAAAAAATERRRRRRR
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>>128812749
With her gauge skill, you can sometimes ougi on the second turn.
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>>128810073
Whos the captain to begin with now
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>>128811565
been playing without the Baha HP weapon.
Not worth it if you can run 4* weapons.
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>>128813046
Gran
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>>128811565
>>128812595
Thanks guys.

Also the images showing the upgrade steps for SSR/Bahamut weapons are dead links for me at http://gbf-english.proboards.com/thread/595/weapon-summon-optimisation-progression . Anyone know if these are on the JP wiki?
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>>128810073
>even if she were to be canon
I wish EOPs would keep these embarrassing thoughts to themselves.
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>>128814142
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Do you guys like Cag or Beatrix better?
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>>128814250
>Djeeta exists therefore she is the central character instead of Gran
This is what you retards sound like every time you open your mouths
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>>128814337
thanks, time to save them to hard drive
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>>128814401
Cag is a pure maiden.
Beatrix is just some skank.
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>>128814401
Cag is an old man but she got a cute girl body so now she can be both a bro and a fuck buddy.

Beatrix is full of midget cum.

It's not a difficult choice.
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>>128814401
They are both okay
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>>128814337
Is there a table like that but for normal SSRs?
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>>128815656
There is.
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>>128814401
Beatrix is a real girl, she can also get pregnant with my babies
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>played GBF since launch on and off
>never read a guide and still have no idea what I'm doing
If I hadn't already had an existing mobage account that I used regularly for other games, I'd re-roll and learn from fresh
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>>128815813
midget babies*
Fixed
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>>128815897
Subscribed
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>>128816086
Thanks
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Who's better between Henriette and Petra?
Because I like both of them, but in the same team... I don't think it will work. (I already have BirdMan)
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>>128815897
I forgot i had a validated mobage account when i started playing this game, i kinda wanted to start again too but fuck it is just a cellphone game.
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>>128817430
Petra
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Take my zeph. 9F82D144
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Do the coop rewards you can buy with MP ever reset?
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>>128817754
they reset when you clear the shop
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>>128817754
Buy them all
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>>128817482
Does verification even mean anything in GBF, anyway? I think it was verified only in the early stages, but that was long ago.
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How do you go about with magna weapons? I'm starting to farm up but all I get are SRs, when do I know when to use them as fodder or if I should MLB them?
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>>128818347
if it has attack up, keep it

if it doesn't it's fodder unless you're still using Rs
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So, I used the red crystals and then clicked the blue button to get this crystal (I'm assuming its for a roll?) I don't see it anywhere, am I an idiot and misinterpreting this thing?
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>>128818650
Read the guide.
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>>128818650
Read the OP
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Why are we so dead?
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>>128818624
I have 5 mLB SRs sLv3s, wondering if I should keep on getting mLBs or use the next ones as fodder
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>>128818650
>So, I used the red crystals and then clicked the blue button to get this crystal (I'm assuming its for a roll?)
If only it was so easy
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>>128818870
High concentration of assburgers chased everyone off.
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>>128818885
If they're attack ups and have better stats than your alternatives with auto allocate then keep using them
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Kill me
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>>128818943
Like what?
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>>128819579
>Beatrixfags
>usedgoodsfags
>esportsfags
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>>128819636
Don't forget the mental breakdowns every time there's an argument.

and /gbfg/ - Read the guides even if it isn't in the guides general.
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>>128818870
It's ok like that, there's no need to bump for nothing. Just to discuss the game and asking what you don't find or understand in the guides would be great.
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I like Beatrix and don't mind the used goods meme.
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>>128820436
I wouldn't mind it if it was actually true
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where are the memes
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>>128819795
i fucking told you idiots to not encourage the autists now this thread is about to get auto deleted
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granmeme fantasy
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>>128820737
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>>128821098
I want to fuck that meme
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>>128818650
Anon, for fuck's sake, don't assume when you have no basis.
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Anybody knows what Albert's Fate Episode is all about?
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Why aren't you streaming RIGHT NOW as Mr. Cagliostro?

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=597298803
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Forever torn between picking the amulet so I can lb the spear or picking the dagger which apparently is very useful (but means a gimped spear).
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Are the 1/2 pots in the celestial event worth getting?
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>>128823182
The point dagger will come in every celestial.
You have to wait another 4 cycles if you don't get that amulet now, but then there'll be another Seiryuu weapon to come.
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>>128823182
Spear needs the scroll. It upgrades the skill to attack II. If you weren't planning on getting the scroll, you shouldn't have gotten the spear.
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>>128823412
Oh, the dagger will come back in the next celestial? If that's so the amulet seems like a better choice.
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>>128823482
My idea was getting both the spear and the scroll from the beggining, but the apparent general usefulness of the dagger made my doubt that decision.
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>>128823536
If you're fine with getting less points during GW.
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How soon when I can start going for Magna weapons and summons to get stronger? I just defeated Vira.
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bionicle collab when
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>>128823746
You should have been doing that from the beginning. All those rankups means free 5bp to leech magnas.
I'm at the same place and already have half a 0* water SR pool.
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>>128823746
Anytime, just join them with BP and leech
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>>128773437
I want to braid his hair too.
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>>128823746
any time, just hit it once and you get chests.
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>>128823482
Is the spear bad without the scroll? I already got it but I won't be able to get the scroll.
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>>128818650
It's a material for stuffs.
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>>128825564
LB4 means weapon level can be 150, which equals to more stats, and more important, skill level 15.
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>>128825891
I know it only really shines with the scroll, but my question is if it's still a decent weapon without it.
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>>128826079
Filler tier.
At least you have it 3* right off the bat, so you can keep it for a while until you fill magna pool, but after that, drop it.
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Best boy.
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>>128828132
Which one?
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So it's assault time time right now and apparently I need to join a multi raid to clear the panel. What do? Is there a way I can initiate one?
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Zephyr ADD43938
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>>128828442
>Is there a way I can initiate one?

I think this game is too complicated for you
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I just birdman

Who do I ticket
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>>128828747
petra
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What's the difference?
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>>128829196
Nothing
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>>128829196
Try asking your facebook group.
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Beatrix is pure. PUREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.
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Obligatory "who do I ticket" post

Still haven't used my startdash yet and plan to spend it on sheep
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>>128829196
They're used for different things.
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>>128829442
Birdman
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>>128829442
Percival
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>>128829442
Ghanda
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>>128829442
Percy, Altair, or Birdman.
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>>128829442
Bird Person.
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>>128779953
I would never abandon my beloved Oneesan.
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>>128831114
You're a good man
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>>128829442
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>>128831114
You only love her because she's esports
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>>128779762
Where the hell is this study on drop rate from. Did I actually spent a bunch of my BP sniping Celeste for nothing.
>>
dead thread
dead game
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>>128833771
It's the weekend, everyone is out having fun.
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>Decided I'll roll for metera
>2x ssr
>water summon
>lena

Well, at least I got SR Vira too.
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>>128834637
What water summon did you get?
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>>128834258
>everyone is out having fun
Don't be a fool. They were killed by the grind.
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bloody hell. why are silver event medal things always the hardest to accumulate.
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>>128834949
Makyura. I guess I can replace my madmax summon, but didn't really need a 50% water, especialy when I'm so close to finishing a water pool.
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I love Cagliostro!
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Where are all my Helesfags at
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>>128835423
You have a goal for 4* at least.
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>>128836185
Reporting in
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>>128831867
I started this game when Naru was added into the game because I knew I had to have her. I didn't even know what esports was until my first surprise ticket.
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Dead thread is dead.
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So why is Beatrix referred to as a midget dick cum dumpster? Aside from her VA being one and all.
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Is it time to move back to /mbgg/?
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>>128837072
Some people have strange fantasies and project them onto her
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>>128833771
currently at mtg prerelease, won't have time for mobages all weekend.
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>>128837142
So she's not really cuckbait, and people just want her to be? She seems pretty cute, should I use my surprise ticket on her?
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>>128837221
Go ahead, I did it. No regrets, anon
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>>128837221
She's cuckbait anon. Pick a real cute girl like pic related
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>>128837072
>>128837142
>>128837221
It won't work, your ugly waifu can't save /gbfg/
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Reminder that IRC is literally the cause of shitposting in this general
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>>128837861
Isn't that the one guy who is always shitposting here? I see his name a lot.
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>>128836905
>24 years old
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