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I-It's ok when RTZ and the rest of EG does adderall every game, r-right?
Hello i would like source on this image you posted
I have my nipple ticket, and so you are obligated to provide the nudity I am requesting
see thats fine to change, i know these guys dont wanna give their starts away on the camera perhaps maybe the interviewers need to
learn a little more before they are back with a mic again
its questions like these that make people like siractionslacks exist
when people aggressive trilane i'm sure if they don't see u in lane they will send two supports to fuck your shit up in jungle.
sylar came back very well actually they just didn't really have the tools to deal with EG after that start imo.
>Starladder give us CS;GO during break again
I don't know why CS;GO need casters, they are talking nonsense unrelated to the game 90% of the time anyway. But they sure need a good observer though.
>Clicks ranked match
>Chooses a mode
>A window appears
"Select your role"
[ ]Support [ ]Core
>now mm will match 2/3 sup and 3/2 cores every matchmaking
>btw its better to have a friend and play party mm than this lonely nerd shit but feel free to reply
Do you not know how twitch vods work?
>not having dynamic IP
>cant into imagination
>tfw no nation in the sweetspot of technological ignorance where there's amazing bandwidth and they still use dynamips without being some other variation of 3rd-world hell as well
There is nothing wrong to seeing and watching dicks.
If only it only makes you more straight, because you compare your manliness with others and know what the competition is offering.
>not wanting to show superiority through your massive dick and be the alpha
LMAO WHAT A FUCKING BETA
Russia is not a third world hell. It has the dynamic ip, super fast + cheap internet compare to the rest of Europe. The only downside is your internet is being watched. But you are being watched anyway in any developed country.
>tfw the only thing keeping my 5' 5 ass alive is that one day I might pleasure a girl with my bbc
2nd and 3rd worlders can't even stick to their own regions and languages, what makes you think they would stick to the roles they pick?
2 support and 3 core has been the standard in competitive for years and years. You can basically count on one hand the times pro teams strayed from this.
In pubs people don't pick 4 cores because it's good, but because they're selfish.
You pointed out the difference yourself. It is not too bad to have 4 cores in your team. I have played numerous games where I won with 4 cores in my team. I have even won a few games with 5 cores in the team. Before you said anything, it was in 4k+ bracket. Pro and pubs have different meta which is why the mother fucking frog didn't nerf abbadon and omni when they are stupidly OP in pubs for so many patches already.
>You pointed out the difference yourself. It is not too bad to have 4 cores in your team.
Yes it is, unless you 100% know the enemy team will not punish you for it, which you never do.
You take a gamble on the enemy being more retarded than you are.
>get 3 'cores' who all want to firstpick invoker mid
>whoever goes to the offlane has a 50% chance to feed and a 30% chance to ping the enemy carry and spam 'wtf hes freefarming!!' in the laning stage
>it's another Secret crumble while EG stay strong episode
where have I seen this before? honestly just kill me already
>The enemy team probably have 4 cores themselves most of the time so it is actually not a gamble.
So why don't you punish them instead and make the game an easy win?
No, naturally you take every chance you get to be retarded.
I agree. I think I would have fun in league if all the heroes were available. I don't want to pay for new heroes or spend ages saving up for one. It's the biggest turn off ever.
>hanging out with out of state friend
>he's playing league
>play my first ever league game
>all the items he tells me to buy are just stat upgrades
>just attack people until they die
Fuck how does this game even exist?
>sjokz will never be our host
my predictions for starladder. Overall I don't think this tournament really matters at all since the two best teams (OG and Secret) didn't attend this or WCA, the only 6.86 LANs.
>come with the assumption of retardation.
No it isn't. Seriously you have to play more games to understand it. Let me explain here.
The win condition of 4 cores vs 3 cores is to drag it to late game. Everyone plays the game know it. Sure the 3 cores line up can punish 4 cores early game. But it is not enough. If you don't take their rax quick enough, with the nature of memeback and core's gold to item efficiency, you will have a hard time dealing with them the later the game goes on.
I hope you play a game or two right now while waiting for Alliance vs Liquid.
>HotS is far better at being a casual game.
It's also incredibly boring and repetitive.
There are neither skill or item builds in that game, just one flat build so every single time you play a hero in that game it's precisely the same.
Also it's more of a PvE game with some PvP, which makes it even worse.
It's a shame Infinite Crisis is dead, since it was basically "LoL" with no hero grind and some interesting twists.
I enjoyed my time with that game.
Just took a screenshot from highest view league game. It looks pretty normal names to me. I've seen more bot-like names before.
>Seriously you have to play more games to understand it.
Why does bulldog surround himself with girls and why has he been rewarded for it by winning starladder?
Well, I don't know then. Maybe you should communicate more with your teammates about the picks? With decent mmr people are likely to listen to reason, at least in Europe and Russia.
The entire problem with a 4 core lineup is that "dragging it to the late game" is precisely the problem.
You lose the early game too easily and that can spiral out of control easily into a midgame win for the enemy and there's fuck all you can do about it with 4 underfarmed cores and a neutered support.
It entirely relies on your allies ability to be good in lane, have good awareness and actually support eachother, which is beyond rare (especially when we're talking players that would willingly draft a 4 core lineup).
Well speaking from my experience I always play solo offlane. Usually I won the offlane and when we got a jungler it usually doesn't make my safelane weak since they often are commiting 2 supports babysitting their carries. We just outgreed them and take raxes and won. Most of the game I lost are the game where I lost the offlane and their support are free to roam, or they have a 4 core line up too.
>have mana-giving support
>have superdeadly carry that stuns for 40 years
>be picking CK on your own like the saddest virgin
>have to build for mana and fail to come online as carry (or have no mana)
HAVE TO HAVE A FUCKING USELESS SPECTRE PICKER WHO FUCKS THE ENTIRE MID GAME BY BEING A USELESS FUCK, AND ONLY OCCASIONALLY WINS WHEN THE OTHER TEAM THROWS AWAY THEIR 30K GOLD LEAD FROM GETTING TO PLAY AGAINST SPECTRE.
WHY THE FUCK DO PEOPLE ENJOY PLAYING THIS GARBAGE BORING HERO?
YOU LITERALLY RUN AROUND BEING USELESS FOR 30 MINUTES AND WATCH YOUR TEAM SUFFER UNTIL YOU CAN MAYBE DO SOMETHING IF YOU HAVENT ALREADY LOST 2 SETS OF BARRACKS BY THEN
I'll show you what I spammed last patch.
I just had a massively useless spectre that was also supremely retarded.
I mean she stayed farming mid in the mid-late game when the entire team told her to get back because the enemy was coming.
She stayed, died, had no buyback and we lost an entire lane of racks and then the ancient.
they want to be 8k like badman but fail to realize that he does it by being super aggressive from level 6 on with ult and buying cheap items to make her stronk in early/mid game like urn drums aquila.
Riot has fixed that by enforcing a good team composition in ranked.
Why can't Valve do the same?
>Doing good in offlane generally means that their supports have to be busy in their safelane so your other lanes are not in danger of feeding unless they are stupid.
Which is something Riki was incapable of doing.
>you gonna smoke with me, right d2g?
why do people even play that trashcan game? not even joking, why do people play? is it the same reason for people playing those korean MMOs where you do the same exact shit over and over a trillion times like a robot?
I had a Spectre against me which we REKT, he was literally level 8 while everyone else was at least level 11(including supports).
At 30 min he had only diffusial blade and boots.
We still lost because my team found it funny and lewd to solo dive them under fountain 5 times in a row while we didnt even had taken them rax.
We lost xd
>>you gonna smoke with me
You are surprise how many supports wanna rape your ass in offlane because "Riki is easy kill" without taking into account his regen. It result in them wasting their time and detection on you while you can safely go back to regen. But they are right to spent zoning Riki out otherwise their carry is about to get raped when Riki reached level 6.
Sadly current Riki cannnot do that. If the regen stays Riki would be so OP and I would've still pick him.
>Wanting to turn Dota into LoL with stale meta
Bashing jungle LC is the first step, suggesting roles before entering a match is second, what's next, Riot shills?
>Bashing jungle LC is the first step
This meme that jungle LC is good got old years ago.
being situational is no excuse for being suboptimal
clinkz offlane is situational but god damn there's no way he can deal with a trilane will kill potential since he needs fire arrows to trade with supports but also invis + boots to not feed, but anyone above 4 k should be able to keep the lane in place long enough for the carry to be 2-3 levels ahead of the clinkz.
Claiming LC jungle is suboptimal is not the problem, and is welcome because it is an opinion.
However, wasting your team's resources in game (obs and sentries) to deny a jungling LC, bragged about is cancerous and unhelpful. Somehow people think it is good and should be encouraged.
>when you realise tobi hasn't casted a relevant match in 6 months
>and is welcome because it is an opinion.
Its a damn good opinion if do say so myself
>However, wasting your team's resources in game (obs and sentries) to deny a jungling LC, bragged about is cancerous and unhelpful. Somehow people think it is good and should be encouraged.
People do that because the people that pick LC jungle do so no matter what the team looks like or what they say.
The entire team could beg these people not to jungle LC but they still do it.
So what do people resort to instead? Warding their own camps to try and create the fear that when they go jungle LC their team will ward the camps and waste wards on it which is detrimental to the entire team. Basically deterrence.
>So what do people resort to instead? Warding their own camps to try and create the fear that when they go jungle LC their team will ward the camps and waste wards on it which is detrimental to the entire team. Basically deterrence.
this jungle lc meta thing has gone full cold war, mutually assured destruction n shit
100% PROVEN FACT: its impossible to carry a game as spectre
this hero is cursed
>tfw nice pepsi waiting for me in the fridge for the alliance game
Feels GOod Man
hows your days senpai
im having mediocre fun playing wow lately
a) almost everyone speaks english
b) people coordinate through voice chat
c) you can kick people that are shit and refuse to click buttons instantly
d) you wont get shouted at with subhuman language for not winning lanes for other people
Its perfect game to take break from dota.
See you in few weeks i guess
Terrible, had a cheat day ate McDonald's and packet of chips and lollies
>"Wow why don't you make some epic sub-10 minute rotations on a carry hero"
>"Why are you prioritizing farm over helping your teammates on a carry hero"
lmao you think a single one of those items I had could be swapped out for a useless piece of shit AC, pipe or crimson?
wtf would that accomplish
every single item in my inventory was mandatory against that lineup
>friends get me to play CSGO
>playing casual matchmaking with them
>enemy just keeps fucking killing me with awps the second I come within 2 kilometre of a corner
I hate that game
>dota is situational at its core but I won't let that stop me from presenting generalizations as fact
I don't understand what you're saying.
>safelane farmer and support get ganked
>lose skirmish and die or are forced to heal
>be glad i'm jungling because my other farming hero is having a rough start
Yeah if only I was level 1 rubick, i could have totally nullified that gank
YES ILL JUST FUCKING SKIP MKB
AGAINST AGHANIMS TINKER
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bkb lasts 5 seconds and doesn't affect illusions
>7 illusions get blinded
>hero gets to autoattack for 5 seconds
>totally unable to deal any other damage for rest of the game
>You have no chance anyway if you don't kill tinker or magnus first before a teamfight.
you can't kill them before a teamfight, wraith king had aghanims, magnus is guaranteed to land his shit
>travels 2 agh's tinker
>manta ck vs no silence
>blinkless refresher agh's wk
>carry mirana with all of those cores
what the hell am i looking at
>someone mentions reddit is going to praise slacks for his starladder interviews
>it literally happens like clockwork
>instead of laughing at how ridiculous and predictable redditors are people curse out the messenger
Why are you so mad? You tried to win late game against 5 carries, then get surprised you lose? You should have ended at 40 minutes instead of the 80 minutes it probably took to get everyone that farmed.
>You tried to win late game against 5 carries, then get surprised you lose?
not him, but it's a common pub situation. you have a team lineup that by all rights out to be able to do fine, vs a group of carry picking morons, and the game seems to go well, but then it turns out that your team is just as retarded and has no idea how to hold onto an advantage so the lead slips away and you are suddenly up against 5 mechanically more powerful heroes trying to scrape a win by carrying your ass off. it's basically amazing that anyone doesn't get mad in that situation.
I'd just like to say thanks to any fucking faggots that pick a jungler against me. Thanks so much for the free wins. I just pick specter because I know you'll have a weak offlane, then win the game easily with 18 minute radiance. If you pick a jungler, you force your team to lose against anyone who knows how to take advantage of the opportunity
What are you implying?
EG won ti5 on the sheer force of adderall alone
Why are the most chill and cool niggas always from countries like Iran, Pakistan, Afghanistan etc?
I just played with this Afghan who went spirit breaker and went so fucking balls deep aggressive and literally got 15 assists in 12 minutes with no deaths and he was super chill and communicated and tried very hard.
AA said on the panel that these guys play hard because otherwise their father would question their faith and you don't want your faith questioned when you are a muslim.
what the actual fuck is wrong with this shit tournament. stop streaming csgo and give me the fucking dota match.
why does PPD think his opinion matters? he spends all this time bashing or dick sucking tournaments but he doesnt realize that none of the organizers give a shit what he thinks
Well, watched that CSGO esport thing, and it seems like that game is rare-ish on CSGO, most of their games are stomps and not worth watching.
Also, I think those small little mistakes in CSGO doesnt really matter, cause it just resets after every round, so no matter how much you fuck up your individual play, it can just be reset.
Unlike in dota, just fuck up maybe 5 little CS, and it can ripple throughout the entire game, and could cost you the entire match.
>you will never rest your head on sheevers thighs while she runs her fingers through your hair and whispers 3k shit in your ear that you have learnt to completely block out after years of watching her on streams
if ppd stopped playing dota today tourneys would still happen. hell he didnt go to WCA and other teams still did and people still watched it
just because i like to eat pizza doesnt mean pizza hut gives a fuck about what i think that they took away the pizzone
There's nothing wrong with liking short girls.
>tfw no dayman hero
>tfw no nightman hero
>tfw no champion of the sun hero
>tfw no master of karate and friendship for everyone hero
so, they lose first round, get momentum, money, enemy team no money, no armor and shit, stomp. boring. shoot, sit in corner, repeat.
CSGO is very limited to anything that can happen in it, compared to dota, the level of hype that CSGO had in that game happens every 3-5 matches in dota, and happens quite alot even in-game.
Watching CSGO is damn tiresome, cause it's just a rinse and repeat shit.
he is so relevant he single handedly stopped WCA from being shit with his blogs :^0
stop being delusional, PPDs opinion doesnt matter in the scene. just because you like him doesnt make him special
>rush back home to maybe watch game 2 of alliance vs liquid
>somehow we are watching csgo
Also, how was EG Vs MLG, do the matches worth a watch?
No wonder everyone hates short haired soe
not sure if you'd call it skill, more like talent, but all you really need is reaction time, and just memorize shit, not really much decision making involved.
Also, almost all CSGO maps are unbalanced, there's always either CT or T that has a huge advantage.
You all realize that the supermajority of the people who post in this thread are not even 4,000 MMR, right?
Ok. I'll check it after this series.
because it's simple to understand what is happening, who is winning, etc.
in dota there are a trillion things going on and a lot of them are not intuitive neither obvious to someone who doesn't know the game from inside
dota = the perfect mix of football and chess
csgo = mma with guns
Well, CSGO personalities/casters/players are fucking DESPERATE for attention from valve. They want bigger money on their luck based game, which pretty much wont happen cause, lel gaben hates luck shooters.
Honestly, quake requires more skill than fucking CSGO.
Quake is more about outsmarting an enemy. It takes some skill, but not overwhelming amount. As you know battles are often decided by amount of health and armor, not some miraculous moves.
>Wake Up and worried I missed Alliance vs Liquid
>Series delayed because of CSGO
Thanks FPS bros
>dota = the perfect mix of football and chess
Somehow that's pretty accurate.
Unless you mean handegg, then fuck you.
Why are you guys obsessing over Sheever? She looks incredibly average. It's like you've never seen other females other than this tramp and your mothers
I never understood the football analogy. Does anyone mind explaining to me? Is it because of position and taking over the map/field and strategies? Is roshan like a free kick/ penalty?
I don't get it.
>EG in yet another grand final
It's almost boring to watch them win so much
She's the less ugly, sightly related to Dota, female. The other options are a tattooed blizzdrone who looks like a 12yo and a monkey.
aren't fnatic into some shady shit, and I heard most CSGO players even have their hardware fucking rigged, like mouse and shit.
There was an entire scandal about it a few years back, dunno if it still happens, but you never know.
>Icefrog buffed all the heroes we play so now we're relevant again
>irrelevant CSGO lan
Secret will never lose the next major.
Pretend ur team is holding a ball while u smash their base
I don't know if Starladder knows what they're doing, but at the majors they check all equipment and keep them locked away so the players don't have access to their stuff between games.
So legit question, not trying to start a MUH-SOGGY-KNEE debate.
Why do you think there's no pro women players in Dota?
Why don't these swedeshitters shave their patchy stubs? They look disgusting.
Don't Secret fans get tired of moving goal posts all the time?
>Secret will never lose
>Secret will never lose a Major
>Secret will never lose TI
>Secret will never lose against a Tier 3 team!
>Secret will never lose after they kick EE
most CSGO players also play LoL
CSGO is mostly popular in the US and Western Europe where LoL is also most popular
The only place where both CSGO and Dota are popular and LoL isn't is Russia and Eastern Europe
Women don't have positional/spacial/situational awareness. They also don't have the same competitive drive as males.
They aren't just physically weaker, they are mentally weaker.
>if Kuroky drafts well and lanes well Liquid will probably win
Wow such amazing analysis! These panels are so useful!
>As you know battles are often decided by amount of health and armor, not some miraculous moves.
True about 60% of the time, but aiming and movement skill are the factors used to overcome deficits in health and armor. It's more of a mind game most of the time because of the 1v1 duel setting, but I would say that it does require an overwhelming amount of skill. A lot of the reason it's now dead as an esport as well, because it's not worth the effort required to play at the highest level when more easy to access and stable esports games are out there.
Red pill me on Shadow Demon.
Is he a good pick? Shadow point seems meh.. its easy to dodge and doesn't do that much damage unless stacked up high. Also, is soul catcher actually good? I know demonic purge is pretty good.
What do you even build on shadow demon? Mana boots? Force staff? Why isn't he played more often?
S4 vs Kuro
whoever wins we still get to see them vs RTZ
the perfect bracket for a great GF
There was this dude in my game who basically spams morphling mid every game
He got like 3 kills on enemy SF which made him disconnect and abandon in shame
I'm only 3k, but is morph mid really viable? How does one play it?
Biologically less competetition oriented and less interested in non-organic movement.
No cultural incentive to make up for it since since competetive VIDEO GAYMS is a niche thing.
He needs to be played with or against certain heroes.
With the right draft he can be insanely good now, his illusions from Disruption are fucked, you can pair it really well with illusion heroes to siege with and murder towers safely, is also amazingly good in fights now under the right conditions.
You need a reason to pick him though, he isn't something you throw into any draft.
well lots look at how you become a pro these days
>get crazy high mmr and wait
are there any crazy high (8k+) females? no? even if one got 8k they would just be one of many
>make a team and git gud
are any females making a team and gitting gud? no. they even compete in female only tournaments for free money
>you have to go full nerd to git gud and go pro
most wimmin play games for attention or to fit in - going pro has nothing to do with that
Think about this. There are 12~ million active dota players right now. 90+ percent of them are male. Lets be generous and say there are only 11 million male dota players. How many of those male dota players are pro? 0.001%. There are not even enough women playing the game to statistically warrant one of them having gone pro.
And then we have real talk. Can women even naturally compete against men in such areas? Why are there no good women chess players who can even compete? There is literally nothing holding them back - and yet they cant even touch men.
Anything is viable in 3k if you are good enough
They aren't as good, plain and simple. In fighting games there are girl players but they don't go super far, in SC2 the only two "pros" was a male who changed genders and a Korean girl who also never went far.
>yo guys we gotta find a pretty evenly matched hero duel for our intro
>windranger and app sound like a pretty even match