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>FAQ (Badly needing an update)
http://pastebin.com/Hr9rYACD

>Current Live Build (Alpha v2.1.0)
Download: https://robertsspaceindustries.com/download
Manual: https://robertsspaceindustries.com/media/1c1bbpmb3uat3r/source/AC-Manual-1-1a-V11.pdf
Tweaks & Stuff: http://pastebin.com/QRWNvEVD
Alpha 2.0.0-305217 Stability Settings: http://pastebin.com/MBcknHRt

>Latest Monthly Report (November 2015)
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/15105-Monthly-Studio-Report

>Latest Official Podcasts
10 for the Chinaman 74: https://www.youtu.be/qqcN6UkKfog
10 for the Developers 1: https://www.youtu.be/luDDJoPdMY8
Bugsmashers 17: [YouTube] Bugsmashers! Episode 17

>Current Issue of Jump Point
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/media/xtjaptgtro9w0r/source/JumpPoint_03-12_Dec-15_Refining-The-Verse.pdf

>Entire Jump Point Repository
http://pastebin.com/Cd9wQ9YB

>Last Asset Leak
http://pastebin.com/aGpzF7wV

>Lastest Random Shit
2.1 to PTU: https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/15136-Star-Citizen-Alpha-21-Available
Pupil to Planet [YouTube] Star Citizen: From Pupil to Planet
Letter from the Chinaman: https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/15138-Letter-From-The-Chairman
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FIRST!!!!

>le NOICE comment
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so the thread was dead for 14 hours and no one bothered?
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>>128743945
We've got lives, you know.
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open world when
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>>128744476
Probably next patch or the one after that if they actually stick to their plans.
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How do you think the first m0o corp. encounter will go down and cause CIG to change game mechanics?
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>>128745589
>implying I'll ever pay more than 30 bucks I did way back in the kikestarter

kekekekekekekkek fucking loser. get a job.
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>>128745684
you don't really need a job to scrounge some 30 bucks
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Here you go folks.

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/media/yzyb49sksn5ror/source/JumpPoint_04-01_Jan-16_Teamwork.pdf
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>Star Shitizens will defend this
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>>128748038
Yes, its an overpriced rush job with a shitty interior, no one is really surprised.
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>>128748275
They're $250 each.
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>>128748038
>same shower
game ruined
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>>128748479
Or 20K REC
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>>128748038
It's also part of the design. They are going to reuse textures and features to give ship corporations their own style.
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>>128744956
>>128744476
In what way would open world be different from what we have now?
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>>128748479
Don't care. Don't have one.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-purchase_rationalization
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>>128748038
i think you care more about this than anyone who actually bought one. do you spend time in cod and fallout generals spasming about reused assets? or is this game special, like you
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>>128751027
I'll bite. You imply that the rationalization was made post-purchase.
"Someone who buys something that I wouldn't buy must regret it, right?"
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>>128751301
>I'll bite.

I wish you wouldn't.

He links it every thread. Please stop feeding.
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>tfw friends buying Gladi, 325As, Freelancers, Andromedas, Hornets
>tfw I get top of the board/all the com array kills with my stock Avenger every time

Is the Avenger OP or do bad pilots compensate?
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>tfw bought Caterpillar years ago
>ship has become possibly the most undervalued by community
>no one even buys it in sales anymore
>shaping up to be one of the most versatile ships in the game
>smaller than the cap ships with more capacity, manpower, upgrade potential
>cozy af looking interior and one of the best exteriors
>all kind of unique abilities like eva catapults and beakaway bridge
no regrets
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>>128751813
>funny-dog-1.jpg

Craks m up evry tiem
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>>128751813
The Avenger is OK, but the Hornet should beat it easily.
325A is also OK

Gladius is a bit shit right now, Freelancer has no radar, and the Andromeda should have trouble getting kills as fast as the fighters around the comm arrays.
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So if i upgrade to a sabre what ship can I fly in AC?
Also how do i get LTI?
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>>128753840
>So if i upgrade to a sabre what ship can I fly in AC?
Hornet, I think.
>Also how do i get LTI?
Buy a ship with it whenever CIG decide they need another quick five mill.

Or maybe next november, if they do another sale with LTI then.
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>>128753840
>Also how do i get LTI?
appease the hunger of the lesnecks
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>why live?
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It's funny watching /scg/ calling ships like Freelancer and Cutlass shit when the only thing we can compare them in is in Public Matches in AC.

The game got a far wider scope than just AC which will show that the Freelancer and Cutlass may be very good at what they do.

Ain't the Cutlass supposed to be a dirt cheap pirate ship ingame? A ship with a lot of shit just tacked together just to let pirates board and attack other ships in high numbers?

Ain't the Freelancer supposed to just be either a small freighter (Standard and DUR) with some defense or a dedicated artillery (MIS) ship which is why the view aint a priority.

It feels like everybody hates ships purely because of AC scores.
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>>128748038
>ships from the same manufacturer look similar!!!!!1!!1
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>>128757018
>Ain't the Freelancer supposed to just be either a small freighter (Standard and DUR) with some defense or a dedicated artillery (MIS) ship which is why the view aint a priority.
I know this is bait, but the actual, dedicated freighters have a better view than the Freelancer.

The DUR is supposed to be exploration, too. And how do you want to explore (which might include landing) when you literally can't see shit?
Just go into 3rd person?

Yeah, sure. But right there, in that instant, all the immersion goes to shit.

The view is just shit because they decided it should be shit. The two and a half acres of dashboard and windowsill serve no purpose beyond making the window smaller.
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>>128757759
Cargo space currently has no function but will play a very large role in the final game. No pirate is going to get very much done from the seat of a fighter.
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>>128748038
>I-it's m-manufacturer c-consistency!!
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>>128748038
So is this another masterpiece from the SA think tank.
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>>128757018
The Freelancer is disgusting. I'm literally never getting one just because of the ridiculous cockpit.
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>>128758375
Isnt that because its not using the final damage model yet, I legit do not know because I didnt fall for the ebin pirate shep marketing the goons did.
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>>128757018
I can't wait for the spacefuture with skinsuits for everyone.
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>>128756804
I hope this image isn't trying to imply those suggestions are anything but desperately needed
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>>128748038
parrp
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>>128759274
>desperately needed

What's desperately needed is an actual game. Not coddling the feelings of a bunch of retards who whine about data caps.

Get your fucking priorities right autist.
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>>128758285
I'm sure it pained them not to watermark it. actually it looks like one was removed lol
>>128758747
>hull d truckers with frontbutts and trump hats in latex bodycondoms
glorious majestic space
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>>128759495
>parrp

Goon pls
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>>128759532
you contrarian retard
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>>128759650
I know what you are but what am I?
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Game first.

Release grade patcher later. Balance in broken Arena mode later. Optimization later. FUCKING EVERYTHING LATER.

HOW IS THIS A COMPLICATED CONCEPT?

I WANT TO MURDER ALL OF YOU IN YOUR SLEEP!
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>>128760026
>bigimage
>1280x720
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>>128760282
Blame those wacky Germans
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>>128759891
There is no later
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>>128759891
never the case with mmos, the solutions given are skip-lunch simple to implement, and would save them shitloads on hosting costs
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>>128760429
>never the case with mmos

What a load of horseshit.

Please kill yourself before you multiply.
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>>128759495
the fuck is that mask.
isn't that shit from hospitals for breathing?
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>>128760496
Checksums are not complicated.
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>>128760728
yes

I guess he thought it looked like those retardo masks from mass effect
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>>128760728

yeah, it's for sleep apnea for (mostly) larger people who cant breathe properly while laying down.
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NPC crewmembers when?
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>>128762078
Go make some friends sperglord.
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>>128761430
>>128761453

>walls of the throat come together during sleep, blocking off the upper airway. Breathing stops for a period of time (generally between ten seconds and up to one minute) until the brain registers the lack of breathing or a drop in oxygen levels and sends a small wake-up call. The sleeper rouses slightly, opens the upper airway, typically snorts and gasps, then drifts back to sleep almost immediately.In most cases, the person suffering from sleep apnoea doesn’t even realise they are waking up. This pattern can repeat itself hundreds of times every night, causing fragmented sleep. This leaves the person feeling unrefreshed in the morning, with excessive daytime sleepiness, poor daytime concentration and work performance, and fatigue. Treatment for sleep apnoea relies on changes to lifestyle, including losing weight and cutting down on alcohol

Jesus fucking christ what a shit life.
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>>128760496
He is actually very much correct on the traffic cost, though I do have to point out that with daily alpha builds complete client re-download might still be a valid option.
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>>128761453
I assumed the pipe was connected to his asshole so he could breathe his own farts.

Thank you for educating me.
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>>128765052
Lies
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Ben posted a teaser of the planet stuff
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>>128765179
low quality bait
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>>128765179
I did that like 4 threads ago. Try to keep up dad.
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>450 ground locations
>only 2 so far
Is Star Citizen a scam?
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>>128768201
Well if you count the zero-G game environment, and Star Marine which isn't ready yet, you get 4/450 which is almost 1% of the ground content promised 3 years ago.
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>>128767409
>>inb4 join the military like muh starship troopers

You mean like ancient Rome?
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>>128768353
>lads

I'm a lady tho
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>>128768353
>I had my fun anyways!

I've seen plenty of it
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>>128767409
You know damn well that's one way to get it or you wouldn't have fucking posted that

If you want to call something dumb and unoriginal say it directly instead of passive aggressively like a fucking tranny
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>>128769267
I don't know anon, must be from reading your posts.
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>>128769452
>>implying that wasn't a question as to the broader mechanics of it

What are we fucking mind readers or something.

Use words fucktard.
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>>128769452
there is
you would have stopped first line then
anything not a starter is retarded even just for gameplay reasons
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>>128769750
I don't know, what DO you mean by this?

Why can't you just tell us instead of being sniveling cunt?
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>>128769928
I agree, reading your posts is very frustrating. Must be similar frustrating to keep replying to yourself.

Right there with you my friend.
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>>128770218
Okay. I believe you.
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>>128770529
>>being upset

Why are you upset?
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>>128770759
>I understand now

I really doubt that, what with you being upset and all.

Hardly a stable mindset for comprehension.
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>>128770901
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We need more insider gossip and leaks
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Thinking about trading in my Freelancer, the cockpit is just so ass. Then again, even with clear cockpit vision you know we'll all be breaking immersion by looking around in third person, it's just so easy to sneak up on people otherwise. A real reason to trade it in would be more cargo space.
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:^)
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>>128782279
high kek levels managed

how do I stop following development
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>>128776031
>Thinking about trading in my Freelancer, the cockpit is just so ass.

Retard flag #1

>even with clear cockpit vision you know we'll all be breaking immersion by looking around in third person, it's just so easy to sneak up on people otherwise.

Retard flag #2

Just one more, anon~
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How much do prices go up from the initial concept sale? Asking for the Reliant
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>>128786327
They don't seem to go up at all these days.
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>>128767409
there's citizens and civilians, op paper it's supposed to work like starship troopers but in practice there's a fair bit of nepotism; higher class families and benefactors of the empire have pretty much an expectation of citizenship and write the test or whatever essentially as a formality, while some lower classes and especially people with the wrong history or family name will never manage to pass the test regardless of their score, and the cost of a citizenship test is fairly exorbitant in the first place making it beyond the means of many.

how it will work in practice we don't know yet.
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>>128790621
imqho

>beat SQ42, become shitizen in universe
>if not, starter quest minigame tutorials
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>>128790847
That just becomes a choice of tutorial now or tutorial later.
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>>128791254
bretty much, I think sq42 comes out earlier too
works for people who just want to jump into multiplayer once the game is out though
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>>128790847
>complete tutorial
>washout of squadron/steal a hornet and fuck off
>never become citizen
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>>128791853
I don't get it
I mean you'd imagine not being a citizen would have drawbacks
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>>128792232
I'm sure it will, but pretty sure citizen status will be revoked if you're an outlaw. sounds like they may even have something akin to a typical faction system wherein you can only go to certain areas depending on your standing, albeit with more overlap than not. example; you'll be arrested if caught in UEE core space, but if you're a respected citizen and you wander into spider or nexus, you might get nabbed and ransomed.
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>>128794012
>pirate 'team'
I hope not
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>>128794436
>team
no, pirateland will still be no holds barred pvptown with small factions vying for supremacy and backstabbing one another. it will be a very different way to play and should be interesting for many, even if only on side characters.
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Any French anon with a scan of that magazine?
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>>128768754
>go into cryo to wait for star citizen release
>when you wake up in 500 years it's released
>but the real world is now much more interesting
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>>128797373
>full body neurologically linked virtual reality

I'm going straight back to video games
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>>128797176
http://imgur.com/a/EG2pV
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>>128800329
>making fun of the project for 11 pages saying it's a scam
>ends up saying he understand why people spend 2500$ for a corvette when he sees the quality of the game
I don't get the point the author is trying to make.
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>>128801043
It's like you expect more than nothing from a frenchman.
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>>128801356
They can deliver, space Leclerc when?
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>>128801043
Well, it's French.

And did you honestly expect a game mag to not bash SC when the publishers pay them to?

It's surprising there was anything that wasn't straight ridicule.
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>>128787919
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>>128802551
We had some pretty decent game reviewers a decade ago but now everything went down the shitter.
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>>128758320
Me too.

I like a good cockpit and find struts okay. But a narrow slit of forward view like Chevy's mustang ripoff is such a dealbreaker.
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>>128802553
that's racist
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>>128802551
That makes no sense. Why would publishers put a negative light on the SC model?
The consumer doing all the funding and then buying bullshit is like a economists wet dream.
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>>128803875
>That makes no sense. Why would publishers put a negative light on the SC model?

You mean the model that has no publisher at all, that model?

I wonder anon
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>>128800329
is this supposed to be Roberts with a big fat jew nose?
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So on the topic of actual news, does anyone have a copy of the latest Jump Point they would like to post?
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>>128746575
>>128804723
your fu is weak
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>>128805491
u gibe link plox
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>>128805491
Why don't you install remix os on a USB flash thumb-drive you twat. At least you would be doing something productive with your young life.
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>>128748038
Weapon racks, chairs, beds, showers, vents, control stations, bathrooms, and lockers are justifiable as being parts from the same manufacturer..

However, the vanguard should get its own unique engines, wings, landing gear, and maybe doors.
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>>128807672
>>128807529
are you guys literally retarded? I linked it in the fucking post
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>>128811317
vanguard? pretty naisu cockpit desu
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>>128811317
Nice webm, the reflections on the window and everywhere in reaction to the explosion look amazing.
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>>128812636
I'll web u're m in a minute, tarantula user.
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>>128812636

Are Tarantulas better than Ominskys and the new railguns then?
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>>128812932
Don't know, not mine. I would say they are better if you want to use your shields and engines to the maximum.
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>>128812932
The omiskies still overheat too fast to be usable. And the rail guns seem like they have too low a dps and rate of fire to be useful unless gimbaled.
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>>128813274
Never liked the extra cockpit struts on the delta
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>>128812932
Yes, significantly.

There is a reason they're the current meta.
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Are custom loadouts working in 2.1?

I keep trying to put the Sabre's S2 guns on my Avenger, works fine on holotable but AC just gives me the shitty suckerpunch.
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>>128814532
You could try loading the ship in drone sim first, that sometimes works. But loadouts have been buggy for the last three or four patches
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>>128759495
>wanted for: classified

wew lad
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>>128814158
>Never liked the papier mache ship's combat variant having some extra structure to prevent me from being blown out the front viewport in a cloud of swirling jagged broken transparent steel shards and hard vacuum
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>performance of the game is still utter shit
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>>128817714
Works on my machine
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>>128818016
I honestly have no idea what could be going on.
Running an [email protected],4GHz (all processors run at ~50% while the game is working), a GTX760, 16GB RAM and it's installed on a fucking SSD. And 1080p as usual.

Also using that super performance user.cfg.

send help ;_;
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>>128818201
>GTX760

This is not a mid-tier game

People complaining about Crysis 1 running like shit made no sense either
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>>128818201

http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Star-Citizen-Spiel-3481/Specials/Alpha-20-Benchmarks-Test-1181415/

an "i7" is too unspecific, and a 760 is really getting on now. Can hardly blame the game for that.
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>>128818342
It's not that outdated. Or is it?

>>128818383
i7 860 @2.8GHz, overclocked at, well, only 3GHz apparently. Still the game only uses half the power apparently.
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>>128818616
Thats pretty fucking old, too.

The 'performance' config is tailored to CPUs. If you're using the i7 one it might be asking for hings that aren't even supported by a CPU that launched in 2009.
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lol
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>>128818342
>>128818383
>>128818913
>>128817714
now that I'm see this, I have my doubts, I haven't played 2.0 but before that, it ran 60 fps at max settings in AC, but how about now? I have an i5 4670k and a 770GTX with 8 gbs of RAM
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>>128819581
>$5000

Makes me want to sell plumbing tubing painted black for 10,000% markup too
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>>128819915

can i suck your cock
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>>128819915
I mean it'll run but this is something you upgrade for on release with cards that aren't out yet
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>>128820005

I guess when you have lots of money you can afford to be a fool
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>>128819581
>$5000 cockpit
>I'm going to wreck him with a mouse

Feels good man
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>>128817634
maybe if the struts were on all the major seams, instead of the unlikely to get hit underside panels.
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>>128820062
If it runs I'm happy, maybe I'll upgrade the ram for 16gb this year, but for the video card I'll wait a couple of years, this 770 still runs most of the recent games at max settings
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>>128820547
>I'll wait a couple of years
So when SC comes out?
Not even memeing
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>>128817634
This is a videogame. Nothing about the ships are realistic already
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>>128818913
>>128818383

Well, plan was to get a new pc with the release of Star Citizen or perhaps SQ42.

so never :^)
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>>128820418
Kinda feel like the bottle panels should just be replaced with armor and struts added to the top corners.
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>>128826326
Except the one that runs right through the middle of the view.
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>>128826326
I really like the lower panels having at least a window to see through. Though the struts shooped on that one could use some more THICKness
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New suit

Also, the Vanguard is garbage.
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>>128802551
>>128803117
>>128803875

Because consider the business model here. There is NO publisher. No venture capitalist. Not even investors. Just backers who are essentially donating/pre-buying/DLCing, depending on the particular game we're talking about and what backer rewards they choose.

It's easy to forget that Chris has no one on the capital side to answer to. His startup capital comes from the same well that his revenue will: gamers. At first it was purely based on marketing promises, and as we get more alpha versions it's slowly turning into customer satisfaction.

Meanwhile, how much advertising does Sandy buy? Say what you will, she's a brilliant marketer, because so far as I can tell, she's gone all-in for PR and ONLY PR, little or no advertising at all.

Now look at it from the gamer press point of view. They didn't inflate this bubble, they didn't support it, they don't stand to gain from it, and they risk losing a whole fucking lot of ad revenue if this business model gets more common. Meanwhile, they're in bed with publishers who'd dearly like to see Star Citizen fail for most of the same reasons.

Say what you will about gg and gamer culture; the scandals last year demonstrated pretty conclusively that the gaming press is corrupt to the core. They'd be nuts not to try to ruin this game; their only problem is they may not get the opportunity. In reviewing articles on the web and youtube, it seems like they're trying to do just that.

Final note: I am NOT a Star Citizen backer, and I've never played the alpha. I'm a professor in a business school who's monitoring this project and the buzz around it for scholarly reasons. I used to be a gamer; when I get time I still play now and then, but while the game looks fucking awesome on YouTube it's not MY game.
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>>128807794

Haven't they done just that when they do a second or third pass of previous designs? Tear out the generic parts and revamp them to be more unique?

>>128758320
>>128803151

I'd be stunned if they didn't rework the cockpit a little more. They could move the front seats up a foot or two, remove the "ledge" to make the hull line up flush with the front window, and grow the window by a foot or so. Each is a pretty minor change on its own, but collectively should improve the field of view drastically without getting away from the "space truck" aesthetic.
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>>128803875

(Still the academic from >>128827958)
>economists wet dream

Crowdfunding is absolutely an exciting business model to economists. Not because we care one way or the other (though some of us have private views on the subject). Because it's so entirely new and novel, it's a great testbed to look at how existing theory gets applied in a new context, allows us to refine or develop new theories, and gives us an exciting new source of data to base future research on.

Our whole job boils down to writing academic papers, getting them published, and then hoping people cite them. New business models (especially sexy ones prominently featured in the media) like crowdfunding are gold for accomplishing that.
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>>128827958
We are getting a space sim with more than $100,000,000 invested into it if you asked me this was possible a decade ago I would've told future me this was an impossibility.
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>>128827958
>I'm a professor in a business school who's monitoring this project and the buzz around it for scholarly reasons.

via 4chan?
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>>128827958
Thanks Captain Conspiracy, your shitposting knows no bounds.
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>PU is nothing but autistic supercruise jousting
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>>128828729

heh...

Something else to consider. People consider this a more democratic fundraising effort, whatever that means.

But when you think about it, Chris and his family are pretty much the sole shareholders.

If he'd gone to VC, then there'd be maybe a half-dozen shareholders, maybe more depending on how many people own stock in the VC.

If he'd gone to a traditional publisher, a public corporation listed on a stock exchange, then he'd have thousands of owners voting on board membership and each getting a share of the profits.

So while crowdfunding may be more "democratic" (slippery word) from a creative and vision side, from an ownership/management side it's essentially a far more dictatorial approach. Which is fine. Chris can't order anyone killed, can't force you to back him, can't even keep you from playing/backing other games once you DO back him.

But for people obsessed with ownership structures (like marxists), the notion that crowdfunding is more democratic is kind of strange.

In crowdfunding's defense, what DOES become much more democratic is access to capital. Which obviously is the point. You the backer have zero official say in a given project... but you have enormous say in the sense that you make a decision about becoming a backer in the first place and for how much.
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>>128828305
They said they will cut it back some. So you might get the border trim reduced a bit but not much more than that.
Plus there's still the core issue of it being a 170m/s speed cargo ship that only holds a *sixth* of the cargo that the similarly armed 155m/s speed Constellation Taurus can carry.
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>>128828835

I pop in and lurk every few weeks to see the buzz. I also watch the forums, youtube videos and comments threads, and read media accounts on what's happening. My students occasionally bring SC up in class when we talk about crowdfunding.

I'm agnostic about what if anything will actually come of the game, though of course I'm hopeful that this comes to something. At this point with alpha it seems like the odds that the game will never ship at all are pretty low.

People say stuff on 4chan they'd never say IRL. The memes often start here and work their way out into the mainstream. And it's a good way to get a quick pulse of the major issues.

I played space sims in the 90s, so I'd love to see it succeed. But from my own selfish career perspective, whether it's the greatest crowdfunded game in history or the greatest crowdfunded flop in history, either way it'll garner enough attention to be work studying and publishing.
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>>128828802

Venture capitalists, like hollywood, music and other fad-driven industries, are subject to cycles of taste.

I didn't doubt for a minute that we'd eventually see a comeback for space sims. What did stun me was the level of funding and the sheer scope of the project. This isn't just a space sim with a FPS bolted on. Potentially, this is a platform for producing games in all kinds of genres that all plug into the same living universe. Assuming they deliver what they've already promised, of course.
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Is the Vanguard still broken in AC??

Untargettable, no damage indication, no point awards?
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>>128831208
Yes. PU too.
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>2.1 public
>game finally runs smoothly for me
>play for 4 hours without crashing
>actually feels like a game now

this is a good feeling
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Ugh.

Rent 2 new Tarantula 870s to equip on my M50, try to equip them, nope, pulls them off the super hornet everytime, despire owning 5 of the fucking things, no filter for "available and NOT equipped", guess I can't have nice things.

Try to play battle royale in the m50, load into aurora ln instead... okay.

Reload game, requip tarantulas on hornet, spend 30 mins requipping the ammunition and testing in free flight before it finally accepts.

Go into battle royale, crash out.

Fuck it, didn't want to play anyway.
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>>128838634

I wish actually, i'd bought in when I did and not actually bothered playing yet. Its at a state where it really sucks you in, despite all the obvious alpha flaws, makes you want to play SC and only SC, whilst actually leaving you in perpetual pain.

I need to find something else to play for 6-60 months and check back in when SC isn't just a circle-jerk of new faulty jpegs.
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So how's this scam doing? Collapsed yet?
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>>128837737
But that's what you said when AC released.
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>>128840420
Actually it's finally looking up.
and spinning out of control too
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>>128840420
It'll go on, for as long as CIG keeps raking in the autisim buxs:
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/funding-goals
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>>128841097
>https://robertsspaceindustries.com/funding-goals

Yeah, what about it?
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>>128840697
I think it is gonna take a long time for CIG to get a handle on SC. There is so much minutia of detail to be worked out let alone what needs to be currently fixed, let alone implementing all the other features/modules that they already have in development.... and then fixing all of that.

I was really hopeful when I saw the progress of 2.0 and the speed of getting 2.1 out (and the associated PU stability improvements)

- BUT -

The PU is literally a tiony test environment, as is AC. So while it shows off the prototype concept, and the currently integrated modules (flying/first peson/some test environments) - It is so far away from what the final game is promised to be (Freelancer on steroids with total persistence and freedom of action, backed with a 90% npc economy) in terms of scale and scope that it is actually gonna take for-fucking-ever to even approach it.

Atleast Squadron42 might provide some much needed spacesim diversion before then.
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>>128841224
Please though CIG, prove me wrong, and make 2.2 quickly, with some much needed fixes, and the demo of the persistent economy.
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>>128833863
I doubt we'll see a western game with a boob slider ever again, anon.
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>>128842259
If you want weeb girls you can just play weeb games.

I don't see a problem really.
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>>128843091
Wouldn't you like to know.
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>>128843489
I bet you would ~_^
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>>128843720
>>128843632
>>128843489
>>128843264
>>128843091
>>128842426
>>128842259
>>128833863

Actually worse than reddit.

Good job.
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>>128844249
>>128844226

I come here atleast expecting 4chan standards of realism and bitter hatred. Not reddit-tier circle-jerkery shit.
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>>128844458

Chris can shove as much fucking snow up his nose and or ass as he likes for my dollars-worth, he deserves it, and probably needs it.

But he better get full fucking coke-fiend ragey with those shitters at CIG, slap them around a bit and make them deliver this fucking game before the end of the millenium.
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>>128844908

dot fucking jog on m8
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Sure is Reddit in here
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>>128828758
But crowdfunding is pretty common nowadays and not just for niche stuff
What do you think makes sc special on the crowdfunding model?
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>>128830082
This isnt venture capitalism though
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>>128845954
Truthspeaker right here
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/scg/'s real problem is newfags overusing old memes instead of coming up with new, interesting ones.

We have too many old, bad memes but no one motivated enough to come up with new material.

The general is literally dying from consuming its own shit.
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>>128845954
Upvoted.
You rube.
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>>128846707
If you don't know you haven't been lurking long enough.

Whatever happened to old rule of lurk first, post later? These days every seems be following the Goon model of 'never not post'.
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>>128847024

>>128847024
There literally aren't any memes apart from:

Vaporware-:
-jpeg ships
-throw more money at screen to coke roberts up more
-game will never be
-oh dank look at my new ship (jpeg) that is flight(hangar buggy as fuck) ready
-show your fleet ! que the money spurge fleet infographics
-version x.x is PTU / Live ! amazing !

tl:dr nothing actually happens until there is some game
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>>128847542
This, and yet I keep coming back for some reason...
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>>128847686

Like weeb bitches?
Fuck I wish we even had planetside2 style shipgirls to spatter around
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>>128847713
I know right, the chris roberts honey trap BDSSE hype train chooo choooo it looks pretty and plays like i hoped for now it just needs MOAR. Is it there yet, is it ready, is there new stuff, is there more, is there content, is my jpeg ready, how do i escape?
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- FIDELITY -
- IMMERSION -
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>>128848625
Kong and Ved.

I hate them both so much.
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>>128848625
Valinor Industries.
Their retarded name, "history" and constant attention whoring deserves nothing else.
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>>128848625
DURRRRRRRHRUHHTJHHHH
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>>128757018
People are calling the Freelancer and Cutlass shit for very specific reasons.

First, because the Freelancer has a ridiculously tiny view window. Not a single company goes "Hey, I'm going to add a solid strip of metal at the bottom of the windshield to block even more line of sight."

Second, because the retards designed the flight engine so Yaw is only determined by +x/-x moment of force rather than +z/-z, the Cutlass has horrible turning. A ship that has two widely spaced main thrusters that can fire in opposite directions should not turn as shitty as the Cutlass does.

On top of that, the Cutlass is brother to the Mustang in being utterly fucking useless once physical damage breaks something.
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>>128847542
what about
ben lesnick is fat
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>>128757961
The dashboard is workable for fluff purposes, but the windowsill has utterly no excuse to exist.
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>>128850149

Oh, absolutely correct, totally forgot about that garbage inhaling land whale

!

my captcha was "Select all the food" - Big juicy burger + pizza.
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>>128851739
>Need me to call 911?

What if he's not in the US?
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>>128852357
>everything named after LOTR
>lore friendly
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>>128852357
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VK4wHImGNAQ
Can't make that shit up
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>>128852845
>L. Silmaril
Just fucking kill me
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>>128853453
niceb8m8r8it8/8mustbf8yougr8
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>>128853772
>"we"
Good luck.

Go away.
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>>128853772
>Pls no bully
fuck off regulas
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>>128841129
Why would a goon splinter group attack their own?
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>>128853975
>weebs
>steam org
>failed robot game org
>>>/out/
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>>128854360
>Getting hyped for this piece of slow moving slurry shit
>Not just tossing 30 bucks in for the game and going on with your life for the foreseeable long future till this is even worthy talking about
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>>128854181
fun fact

95% of goons are gay furfags
5% are tranny furfags
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>>128853772

Ah-ha-ha-ha-haaaaaa, my sides.

You must be REAL NEW round these parts
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>>128844406
me:
>I come here atleast expecting 4chan standards of realism and bitter hatred. Not reddit-tier circle-jerkery shit.

You:
>>128848625
>potential?

>>128849279
>growing...
>>128852110
>Growing....
>>128852357
>>128852689
>>128852729
>>128852794
>>128852845
>>128853027
>>128853041

Fucking delivard. Thanks anons. These sorts should be top of everyones hitlists.
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>>128854821

Wow, you're so tough, should I roll over onto my back for you senpai?
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>>128855217
You don't know me, senpai.
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>>128852845
>two corporate emblems
Wut?

This literally makes no sense for a brand. Goddamnit, I hate the fans of this game. Why am I here?

kill me.
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>>128855421
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAhQ1XFwjFM
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>>128855521
>right-alt+backspace you candyass
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>mods
>handling the banter

Pick one

>he does it for free
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>/scg/
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See, this is why we don't talk about orgs
Instead we talk about ships
Redeemer a shit
Merchantman where
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>>128857493
I just want my sexy ass reliant.

Merchant man a cute too.
Why ships with xeno tech look better?
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>>128857493
If we can modify a Merchantman into a bunch of non combat oriented roles then I'm definitely going to grind for one.
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>>128857915
With all the modularity they're pushing for I'll be surprised if we can't
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Every time I see Star Citizen it just looks like a fake game where you spend hundreds on fake fake ships.

What can you actually do in this fucking thing?
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>>128858218
You can pretend
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>>128857682
>freelancer
>looks better
Maybe if they copied the reliant cockpit on the lancer
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>>128858218
>>128858295
>even if the game never gets released I've had my fun and gotten my money's worth

:^)
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>>128858218
Right now you can fly around and shoot other spaceships.
And maybe other players on a comm array.

Wait I just fell for the bait, right?
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>>128858470
I was sort of baiting but actually being serious too.

I want to like this game and buy into it but everything about it just screams scam to me.
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>>128817560

I think if he would've had the "wanted for: classified" at the bottom, it would increase acceleration of my sides leaving the planet by 250%.
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>>128858374
I'd settle for the same visibility as a hull (except the C) or even the old dicklancer view.
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>>128858507
Do you have the cheapest game package? Yes? Then you aren't too worried, you don't have any package? Even better, you don't even care if the game will be crap.
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>>128859326
I don't care about either, but I was thinking about getting the cheapest package if the game is worth playing.

However you make it sound like it's literally not worth playing so I shouldn't buy. So I probably won't.
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>>128859395
>you make it sound like it's literally not worth playing
You should maybe stop to read deep meaning into comments on /vg/.

Just look at a bunch of vids on youtube to get an idea what teh game is like right now.
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Is it true that the singleplayer (not squadron 42) of star citizen has been scrapped or gutted?
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>decide to give SC it's monthly try today
>hop in my poverty ship
>FTL to the security outpost to pick up a decent firearm
>wreckage of a superiority fighter on the landing pads
>herewego.flac
>land and clear the rooms and corridors as fast as I can
>grab a carbine, and run out just in time to magdump into my ship's hull as the pirate spools up my drives
>your ship: 13,000,000km
>fine
>guess it's vicious cycle time
>use my jets to propel myself over to the station's ring and hide in the shadows
>nek minnit someone warps in
>is clearly sketchy about the wreckage too
>makes a few rounds of the pads
>finally sets down
>I barrel toward the landing pad as the airlock closes behind him
>get into cockpit
>come on come on
>YES
>launch and fly 500m out
>apologize over local
>now it's time for me to finally start my missions, properly armed and in a better ship that I began with
>suddenly, the ship disappears around me
>frozen in one place, body is invisible
>movement and firearm sound effects still play when used
>well fuck
Is there anything as tragically anti-fun as the SC beta?
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>>128861606
Oh, and I forgot
>exit to hangar
>try to get back in
>error: server is full
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>>128859395
>you make it sound like it's literally not worth playing so I shouldn't buy
Right now it's totally up to the players you end up with because the NPCs supposed to drive the game are quasi in-existent and the quest are pretty repetitive BUT you can have fun in PVP or PVE with other players, we are also waiting for landing zones and a demo of the economy. It's slow but it's finally gaining speed
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>>128861606
The SC alpha?
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>>128829593
There's also the core issue that you're a fucking moron. More expensive ships are better, surprising, I know.
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>>128861143
Offline mode and private servers have been demoted to not being considered until after "full release" which really means never, because even if they ever call a release "full" it'll be at a point where they'll say offline is then impossible like how ED did.
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>all these carebear tears
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>>128861143
>singleplayer (not squadron 42) of star citizen

No such thing.

>>128866217
>Offline mode

No such thing either. Samefaggot.
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>>128866217
>>128866398
>no such thing

So first the 2014 release date is scrapped, now the originally promised single player.

Why do people still throw money at this thing?
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>>128867957
Nice meme mein herr
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>>128867957
Now you're just flailing to keep the thread going.

Not that I don't appreciate it.
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haha horsecock
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I just want to get in one last post before the thread dies
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>>128874290
Make it a good one.

Weeaboos are paedophiles
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>>128875089
>Weeaboos are paedophiles

You're damn right they are.
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>>128812636
>shields still flaring on the dead ship as it hurtles by
I love this. that means you didn't actually destroy any integral parts of the ship before killing the pilot. if tractor beams were implemented somebody could probably go and claim that hornet now. monoboating may actually become a specialized profession for killing cockpits and leaving ships relatively intact in the PU.

>alright boys, reclaimer is ready, send in the monoboat!
>cutlass, be on standby to grab the hull. try not to bang it up
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>>128829341
I have never seen anyone use supercruise in a fight. if you don't participate in a sc joust you let them remove themselves from the fight by putting themselves a literal mile away.
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>>128876325
You could salvage them for free spare parts otherwise.
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>>128748038
That control station on the left is exactly what it looked like on the retaliator in the old 2.1 PTU. Absolutely nothing like the one on the right. Identical to left as far as i can tell.

The room was dark and smokey, and had spinning vents projecting massive spinning cloud shadows

I sold it though last week but im sure they didnt just delete it for that shit within that time
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According to all the stuff CIG said, Banu systems will be the last one we will see right?
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>>128886001
>human goyim being allowed to see the systems of the Chosen Race
>ever
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space ships exploding miserably in 20 minutes

http://www.spacex.com/webcast/
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>>128888641
>space ships exploding miserably in 20 minutes
Please no.
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>>128866252
I agree with this.

PVP should not be forced on people in the game.
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>>128890017
There will be safe areas, safe systems, etc.
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>>128888641
That cheering crowd is so obnoxious.
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>>128888641
Non-meme stream

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkz_lclGXNg
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>@SpaceX 30 seconds ago Standing by for status of stage one. Second stage and Jason-3 now in nominal coast phase.

it crashed yo
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>>128886001
>first aliens encountered in lore
>last we will see
Merchantman fucking where
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>>128891763
It missed the landing barge?
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>>128891934
Satellite signal lost "just before landing"

Only would happen if they are censoring the stream, or it physically destroyed the transmission equipment. You can see the reflection of the flames on the last frame so it was at least close.

The 15 foot waves probably didn't help either
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>>128891763
>Dudebot [Worshipper of Lowtax; Rank X-Ray] (i dont like kaelus)
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>>128892212
>The 15 foot waves probably didn't help either
That was my first thought when I saw the picture from the target barge piching and rolling like it did.
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>SpaceX failed again

This is why we should build a launch loop. It'd be cheaper and more effective in the long run.
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>>128743494
that's not the latest jumppoint
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>>128859038
you'll be happy with the Freelancer design you've been provided by CIG
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>>128894218
At least they're trying.
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>>128896232
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>>128895889
should I make a new one right now?
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>>128896859
If you want to be the hero /scg/ needs.
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what did i miss in this thread?
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>>128899367
The usual.
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>>128899367
Goonposting, janny baitposting, and general shitposting

https://4ch.be/vg/thread/128743494
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https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/313638/any-reason-why-players-are-so-aggressive-in-2-1

Kill all carebears.
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>>128901930
>Omg this game is going to be amazing, we can do whatever we want
>Get upset when other players do what they want
Delicious carebear tears.
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>>128901930
>>128902570
They'll essentially remove themselves from the game by parking in some of the safe areas, playing Euro Truck Simulator in Space or mining for fish.
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>sneak to security outpost, park my small m50 inconspicuously
>head in and grab a gun
>hear engine rattling and slowing down from inside
>exit through the top deck, see nothing
>eva around the corner
>freelancer
>walk through the open hatch and hop in the top bunk
>hear shuffling and gun clacking noises
>m50 is parked overhead perfectly so i can see when we start moving
>don't need that, ship computer loudly welcomes pilot and engines start roaring
>hop out of bunk and watch pilot in the cockpit
>QT to corvalex, can hear the automated messages sent to the ship
>a ship does a close flyby, QT's to a comm array instead
>sit at the copilot seat, G1, 2 and 3 aren't marked so i just divert shield strength to where it's needed
>battle over
>suddenly rifle in my face
>look over
DOUBLE STOW-AWAY
>he's gone
>pilot and i get up, he's eyeing me down (why the fuck don't these mouthbreathers use chat?)
>jogs down the freelancer but stops, doesn't like me behind him or something
>sprint out the cargo bay so he can stay put while i activate comm array
>the other guy is in there
>turn it on and have a short zero G firefight

rad
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>>128907074

the other stow-away was probably standing behind us the whole time
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>>128907313

i used augmented reality and caught his name spinning around him somehow, but it's no use
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>>128901930

just noticed that chris roberts is shooped onto wonka
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>>128891848
My bad, the last we will see are the Tevarins or the Kr'tak.
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I jumped into someone's Vanguard at the Cryo-Astro and dumped two rifle magazines into him as he was standing next to the pilot seat. No damage whatsoever.

What the fuck?
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>>128912862

vanguard stronk
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>>128912862
People seated in the pilot seat are effectively part of the ship. You can't shoot them.
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>>128913739

He wasn't in the seat, he was just stood next to it moving around slightly.

In the PTU for 2.0 I shot a pilot out of his seat from the fucking outside, with a rifle. So I guess it's all over the place at the moment.
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When do you think the Reliant will be made available again? Until then, what's the best thing I can buy with $85 in store credit? Currently have a 325A but I'm hearing its shit
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>>128915184
Golden canopy?
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>>128915362
I really want the SEN. I had it but melted it like a retard and can't get it back since it was an upgrade. ;_; They haven't gotten back to me and its been 2 weeks, and even if/when they do my cock.li account can't be accessed anyway because of retarded Admins and "german authorities"...I'm in a bad mood.
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>>128915738
I'm still hesitating between the SEN and TANA to end my starter ship only hangar.
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>>128915184
You can always get one in the game
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>>128915184
It will go on sale again when it's hanger ready. Which will probably be when ever the 2.2.0 Patch goes live.
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>wide field of view
Is David Hobbins the hero we need?
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>>128916861
I think he also made the mustang though, which can't fly in a straight line without magic invisible thrusters and can barely land without snapping off it's landing struts...
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>>128917843
Yes, but that field of view tho
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>>128917843
kinda makes you wonder what kind of logistical pitfall the reliant will have. Maybe the rotation mechanic doesn't always work and you can't land half the time
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How does someone even make 15000 posts
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So do Star Citizen fans actually PLAY any other videogames?
Or do they just constantly obsess over this one in-work game, posting about it in forums and daydreaming about what it'll be like eventually?
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>>128920702
The official forums are a lost cause, like any game
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>>128918918
I'm expecting issues trying to get in and out of the seats while in flight
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http://pastebin.com/Bxycdm2x

These still work btw
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>>128925585
multiplayer hangars WHEN
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>>128925702
They work for Vanduul swarm and stuff too
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>>128924772
That's a nice explosion.
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Relatively new player here, anyone have a good weapon loadout for a Titan? I've been using gimballed omniskys which seem pretty solid but I've seen people swearing by other loadouts.
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>>128930098
Longswords is you want gimbals, tarantulas if you want fixed weapons
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>>128930098
Tarantulas on the wings are the meme meta loadout.
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>>128930401
>meme
>we are leaving the age of cuck and entering the age of meme
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>>128930584
"Meme" seems an acceptable word substitution for "meta" especially since meta as a term seems to have come from mobas, and fuck if I want to use any of their terminology.
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>>128931376
It comes from multiplayer games in general.
If these days multiplayer == moba then I want no more to do with gaming.
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>>128931376
I prefer the term 'single unit RTS'
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>>128931947
I should really say "competitive games"
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>>128931376
'Meta' dates back far futher than MOBAs, and they don't mean the same thing at all, gramps
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>>128932421
Really? Because the first place I ever saw it was DoA2 and before that everyone seemed to use FotM as the term of choice for what ever was the currently most powerful class/weapon/setup
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>>128935189
Babby's first eSport?
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How do I read data pads left on the ground?
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>>128936709

if you can't press F on them i don't think they're important
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>>128936709
See a pad and pick it up, and all day you'll be by goons fucked
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>>128937454
so theres no option to look through em with mobiglas?
Is mobiglas even working?

I need a guide for this shit, reading that murky keybind is a drag.
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What's this game's release date?
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>>128938518

what are you doing corvalex shipping disaster?
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>>128938786
Not yet, found one on karesh before I died.
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whats the status on this shit

half the time the general isnt even up
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>>128940715
game is 2 years away tbqh
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>>128940715
I'd give it 2.5 years before PU release. Forget about the game and come back later.
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>>128941302
m-maybe we g-get SQ42 by the e-end of this year
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>>128941556
Act 1 maybe
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>>128941710
Act 1 is the vanduul attack on Vega system, with that giant mining station? I remember hearing that is some video they did early on, Act 2 is shit getting down deep in vanduul territory, no idea about Act 3
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>>128940715
Tried 2.1 today, first time ive played since August.

Its still too clunky and unpolished to retain any fun beyond tech demo impressions. The open space and station visuals are pretty neat. Theres a nice spooky feeling exploring around, knowing you can fly back and forth with EVA.
Combat is still lame.
Animations are Derek tier.

Its really hard to tell how they'll progress with this. The backend tech and extra environments are a big step forward. But it feels like the basic gameplay has not improved and they've got so much work to do without having to worry about the basics.
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>>128935189
>Because the first place I ever saw it was DoA2

That's because you're 15.

Meta was a word and concept that existed in ye old PnP days not to mention during the dawn of MMOs with UO.

Kids these days. No appreciation for history.
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>>128944018
>being old
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>>128944172
>being old and rich

In your wildest dreams kid. Enjoy your minimum wage hyuk hyuk.
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>>128944232
>hyuk hyuk

>being ancient
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>>128944380
Stay salty kid. It's all you have.
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>>128944529
Not really I have my youth
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I miss org posting ;__;
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>>128944740

your org is inferior to my own!
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>>128920150
they had plenty of time. not like theres a game to play
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>>128944595
Kek
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Has anyone done an X-wing/Tie fighter total conversion with star wars ships?
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>>128944908
your org members are all furries
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>>128916013
Go the Tana lad
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>>128944740
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/orgs/DRACUL

Enter if you dare
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>>128945214
I'm too scared to click.
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>>128945293
>We are the mist, We are the dark, We are the nightmares of man. The predators, The haters, The bringers of evil.

>From our altars of flesh We invoke chaos and flames. From our book of Shadows We control the elements.

A wise choice
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>>128945214
>From the chaos there is order from the order there is the dragon with the dragon there is victory hail Dracul warriors hail victory.
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>>128945214
2bh still better than
http://valinoraerospace.com/
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>>128931376
>especially since meta as a term seems to have come from mobas

Jesus cunting christ, you need to be 18+ to post on this board.

Seriously, children fuck off.
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>>128945536
Jesus fucking Christ, that is a whole lot of effort.
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>>128945487
Oh god please make it stop D:
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>>128943286
Sadly, most gameplay elements will just be made to barely work for most of the alpha, refinements to them will be made mostly during the beta stage of development.

That's probably gonna still be a long wait, but that's why I'm not too worked up about game balance right now.
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ded thred
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Vanduul look a fair bit like Predators.
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>>128950003
Predamorphs
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https://vimeo.com/134802422

Holy shit, Chris Olivia's Wormhole jumping concept video.
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>>128950378
>Flying through God's intestine

You hadn't seen this?
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>>128950378
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>>128950378

>5 months ago
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>>128950529
Nope, just found it.
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>>128950536
https://vimeo.com/134802424

This one looks more cosmic.
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>>128950823
I like the concept, I can say that much. They do need to work on it not looking so organic though.
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>>128839394
I know your pain.
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>>128945862
That's nothing.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyWEaeI-o3Y

Dat Javelin theme
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>>128958761
>The escape pods are on fire
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https://www.artstation.com/artwork/1V1q

Why did Redeemer win over this again?
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>>128958761
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>>128958860

i don't know about that. any other new music?
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>>128959585
I honestly don't know what music is new, just searching shit on youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJUIAURg09Q

This one is pretty good, sounds a bit like Alan Silvestri to me.
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>>128959271
There was shenanigans with the polls. Also, Drake isn't allowed to have nice things.
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>>128959271
Because RSI users are so retarded they would vote for a ripoff
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>>128930098

Is that the android from Star Trek (the Next Generation)?
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So I take all the goonposting here is because them 10bux faggots are too embarrassed to post on their own board about the game anymore after backing the wrong horse.
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>>128945214

>From the chaos there is order
> from the order there is the dragon
>with the dragon there is victory
>hail Dracul warriors hail victory
>Steam Group
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>>128963313
>Steam Group
fucking dropped. everyone knows only the most autistic, gay, and furry orgs have steam groups.
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>>128945536
>http://valinoraerospace.com/
>There's a careers tab
>Mfw I could post their organization on a "job-search" website and people with no fucking clue about SC will send them their real resumes

Should we post them on Monster.com?
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>>128963518
you should. right after you update your gaydar profile.
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>>128963476

I wish I could disagree with you, Anon. For the sake of the game's community, I really wish I could.
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>>128959271
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>>128839394

I've been a backer since very late 2013. I understand this feeling. It's the game I've always wanted, and by knowing the scope of the project, it makes it harder to want anything else right now despite this game being a really small 16 player sandbox for now.

Now that I can see the momentum of the project, I actually think this game might be mostly finished Q3 2017.
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>>128963942
Still better than a stapler.
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>>128964354
or a hair straightener
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>>128964354
>>128964762

Both are solid points, I suppose.
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>>128866252
>carebear cries will go unheard throughout beta and they'll harden up or fuck off
>once law is implemented, edgecase murderkiddies will get their shit pushed in by npcs, and provide endless bounties for grizzled reformed lets-get-along types
a necessary purge and temper of the shitty fringes in each direction. it will provide real in world conflict and just make everything better in general.
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>>128907074
you can see out the windows from the bunks? comfy.
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https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/categories/star-citizen-role-play
>if anything, /scg/ should unite against this shit
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>>128968595
1. I ain't your personal army, kiddo.
2. I ain't uniting with no furfaggots.
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>>128911325
More like never
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>>128943286
>Animations are Derek tier.
animations are gr8. they just need to tighten up the embarking and getting seated ones, a lot.
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>>128959876
an older better version of this was the launcher music on the very first release. those were hypeful times, when just being able to walk around and sit in our ships had a real sense of ITS HAPPENING
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>>128963240
theyve been here forever undermining every attempt at a cohesive org, naturally fearing us as the other main zerg community known for not following the geneva conventions of the internet.
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>>128970531
It's not like they have to even try to undermine anything considering their rivals are weebs, furfags, and autists.
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>>128970610
We should take bets on who will survive the PU the longest.
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>>128970610
Now that's not nice, anon. Regardless of how you feel about them those orgs are /scg/'s children.

You are the father.
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>>128969943
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>>128969943
They should make them procedural
honestly it's hilarious looking sometimes but it's pretty fucking cool.
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I wanna buy a shirt in Casaba that shows off my character's bellybutton.
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Is AC still down???
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>>128975649
I was playing AC moments ago, but gave up. Reliably crashing every 6-8mins for the past hour.
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>>128748038
>Buying Fighters
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>>128974376
procedural animation? how does that work? I feel like since they denied us a height slider anyway, just having skeleton to point (stick, button, chair, etc) connections autogenerate would be fine.
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>>128977226
It's like physics within animations. Each time the animation plays it will be a little different based on what's going.
If you were to swing a sword and there was an object in the way the animation would stop.
The downside is that it looks floppy and funny as fuck but also really cool.
Shadow of the colossus was mostly procedurally animated.
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>>128743494
anyone have that google drive with the weapon and equipment list
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I think Star Citizen just killed my OS on my main system.

I was playing it for a while and then everything froze up and generated a BSOD for a page default error.

I attempted a cold reboot and my system couldn't read the hard drive (disk error). Can't even launch windows repair or anything, just a constant disk error loop.

Has anyone seen this issue reported anywhere?
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>>128978743
boot from disk can system repair
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>>128978743
Doesnt sound like a OS problem.
More likely your disk hung itself.
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>>128978743

>$106,000,000
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>>128978795
>>128978846

Shit, I guess I'll try hooking it up to a sata-usb adaptor so i can pull some stuff off, if I can anyway.

>>128978893

Tell me about it.
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>>128978743
Your disk died, bro.
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>>128974082
I don't think I've seen that outfit before, what is it?
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>>128978893
>i've had my fun anyway :^)
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>>128980317

Yup, I'm gonna try to see if maybe its the sata port, but that's very doubtful. Thankfully, I have a WHS that completed a backup of the image on 1/18, so everything from docs to reaction images is there. It happened shortly after updating to 2.1.
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>>128980748
>disk had to load so much shit it died
LOADING GAME
----------------------
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>>128980317

I just hooked it up now to another system using a sata-to-usb adapter. Drive is still accessible. I'm gonna try running chkdsk and/or chkdsk/f
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Haven't been around in several weeks.

What ships are flyable now?
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>>128984125
Aurora, Avenger, Mustang, Cutlass, Hornet, Freelancer, Retaliator, Constellation, Vanguard, 300i, M50, Gladiator
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What are the best ships for dogfighting currently?
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>>128963025
Yes.
"A Fistfull of Datas"
s06e08
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>>128984349
Are the aurora LN and hornet ghost in the PTU yet?
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>>128959271

Because the ship wasn't fucking done for the deadline

These nice looking images were for their 3rd place vote AFTER the main two had already been decided (Boomslang and Redeemer)
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>>128963313
Remember you vampire lore, anon.

Vampires are weak against sunlight, garlic, crosses, and of course, punctuation.
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>>128982419
Well, shit. Might be the SATA port on the board, then.
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>>128987842
Still, it's a shame that it didn't win anything at all, if it didn't get eliminated earlier on it could stand a better chance, IIRC Shard's interior was absolute shit
That, and vote shenanigans
>>128988742
can't cross running water either
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>>128988829

I got the system back up. Chkdsk found no issues but I ran chkdsk/r anyway on the drive. Drive came back clean and remained accessible. I put it back in and reseated the sata and power cable. It booted up and now its back in windows. I used Revo to completely scrub Star Citizen from my system. I don't think I'm going to touch it again until it goes into beta.
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>>128990469

But to add, I don't think SC is completely to blame. Reseating the sata and power connectors probably did the trick.
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I've heard there's some level of persistence in the game at this point. Is this true?
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has anyone else tried to make the journey in a merlin
am i in for some shit
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>>128991157
In 2.2 there will be.
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>>128993378
Does anyone have that list of features coming to the game by version? I remember someone posting it a week ago but I forgot to save it.
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>>128993492
I don't think they do that anymore. Last I've heard they plan to do a new release every month with whatever new playable features they have ready by the release deadline, and at least one new flyable or hangar ready ship. Don't take my word on this though.
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>>128974376
They already are, but they keep trying to implement that system but its not quite working. It was in some versions of 2.1 that they tested but got removed again.
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>>128991157
>Earn REC in game
>REC stays on your account

voila, persistence.
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>A million dollars monthly at least.
>A funding campaign.
They can just keep this up forever.
Open your eyes sheeple!!!
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>>128993968

The main thing they need animation-wise is clean, automatic animations for moving through doorways, in and out of ships etc..

Let's say that you want to move through a small hatch, right now you walk up to the hatch, press <USE> and then wait for:

1. The hatch to open
2. The player character to climb through
3. The hatch to close

before you regain control of your character. This is clumsy and sluggish, and it would be absolutely infuriating to do this under fire or with anything at all going on.

Pressing <USE> (or whatever they replace it with) should open the hatch if it is closed, or close the hatch if it is open. That's it.

Procedural animation would come in to move through the hatch: you simply move through and it adapts the climb animation to your character and what they are holding. Holding the aim button and moving through would allow you to move through the hatch with your gun raised.

This system is a long way from what they have, and realistically it is absolutely necessary for this game to avoid the animation lock issues that plague ARMA.

Judging from their comments on the new EVA system I think that this is what they want to do, but no developers have explicitly confirmed it.
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>>128997039
That is basically where they are going for most of EVA, yeah. Getting a procedural system working like that, with the way they are doing first person camera and animations is WAY WAY WAY FUCKING easier said than done though
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>>128997039
this game really is shaping up to be space arma, and don't get me wrong I love arma, but it's clunkiness goes further than the sim elements in dooming it to forever niche-dom. I don't want that for star citizen, I want smooth welcoming playability, I want maximum normie saturation because I believe this is one company that will be minimally affected by that and not let the game suffer to accommodate them.
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>>128997039
As long as they unlock head movement 100% of the time, I can live with it.
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>every single thread on page 1 of the Game Ideas forum is shit

>almost all the threads on page 1 of General Chat are shit

RIP Star Citizen. Driven into the ground by morons and new backers.
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>>129001880
Not really. The devs care far less about RSI forums than they do Reddit or Discord.
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>>129002014
>implying the devs give a shit about some org circlejerk voice chat
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>>129001569
>, I want smooth welcoming playability, I want maximum normie saturation because I believe this is one company that will be minimally affected by that and not let the game suffer to accommodate them.

Fuck off, you are literally asking for the game to be casualised right there.
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>>129002936
>org
They set it up, dipshit
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>>129003007
>literally, I don't want the game to be playable
having a camera that looks where you point it and bodymeshes that don't wig out and fling into space when you try to navigate a door is not casualization. if simple player movement is a chore, a game is shit and no one wants to play it, further complexities not withstanding.
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>>129005484
>bodymeshes that don't wig out and fling into space when you try to navigate a door is not casualization

No, thats called bugfixing. Not being clunky.
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>>129007769
the fact remains that things as simple as doorways can be difficult to navigate in the current system, this should not be so. having your character reliably go where you direct them is not casual, it is essential. I can't imagine even the biggest arma apologist would defend the clunkiness of the shared model of movement if a superior alternative could be found.
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>>129008260
and it shouldn't be hard to get into a game server, but it is

Calm your tisms
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>>129008370
>I'm fucking retarded and can't hold a conversation
that's all I'm getting from you. these things need to be pointed out as not okay, lest we end up with a final product wherein it has been deemed acceptable, much like arma 3, which despite being on a brand new engine is still a hot mess when it comes to basic control.
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Can they just add the starfarer already, i need to feel /comfy/
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>>129009708
Can they just add the starfarer already, i need this guy to feel /comfy/ so it's funnier when I blow him up.
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>>129010109
Pls dont bully senpai, ive got a gemini. i-i-illll refuel you
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>>129010109
>the size of that cargo bay
my entire org could stowaway and the pilot would not know. in fact I assume that will be a real issue; every starfarer that leaves the pad for the forseeable future of the baby PU will be swamped with jagoffs who wandered in and treating it like the airship to orgrimmar.
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>>129008919
I'm sorry that you think that having your avatar flung across the planetary system is "clunky" rather than straight up unintended, but you don't have to get all salty about it
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>>129010487
yeah, you're being fucking stupid, and misrepresenting what I'm saying for no good reason. fuck off.
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>>129010602
>and misrepresenting what I'm saying for no good reason. fuck off.

Meanwhile in the plane of reality
>>129005484
>bodymeshes that don't wig out and fling into space when you try to navigate a door
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>>129010806
>I have no appreciation of context and I want everyone to know it!
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>>128987702
Late to the party, but yeah. The variants of ships are in as far as I've seen.
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>>129010474
>tfw eating out banu cloaca
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Whilst I wait for something playable.

Is there a torrent for Evochron Legacy?

I can only find Mercinaries or Legends.
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Why own any fighter but the Super Hornet?
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>>129020432
Because muh Saber-tan ;_;
denial is hard
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>>129020432
because the delta is just plain better at every skill level
>more maneuverable = faster than circle strafers can keep up with
>comparable memeboat capacity = similar first hit damage without being a sitting duck immediately before and after
>fucking rockets = automatic win against joust shitters
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>>129020432

Because I do better with a delta which is more fun to fly anyways

>>129020798

The Saber is going to be very good

All I want out of it is a better delta, and that's what it is shaping up to be
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>>129022742
Dont forget the stealth aspects of the Delta, wont be able to detect them until youre within visual range of one.
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>>129024440
Stop it, you're making me hope. It does look sexy as fuck in my hangar, though.

Anyone know why the fuck a spess ship has jets and a massive wingspan?
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>>129024651
Delta's stealth isn't all that great, anon.

Have you even seen the XMLs? If the Delta was capable of that you would just simply never be able to lock onto or select a Sabre at all.
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>>129024741
Intakes are for collecting hydrogen fuel from interstellar medium.

Wings allow ease of flight in atmosphere for smaller ships, but are probably not required.
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>>129025065
The mechanics for it are placeholder.
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>>129025969
The armor for the Delta has a IR/EM/CS emission multiplier, and thats telling on how stealthy they want it to be, in terms of rough ballpark figures.

oh, and basic logic. The Mustang isn't going to outperform a dedicated stealth platform.
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>>128827662
>Mass effect+Halo Wars+ Dead Space 2 visor

original design as fuck
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>>129025857
I look forward to the benefits of collecting a dozen atoms per second.
They look cool but the extra thrust needed to manoeuvre that much extr