Lost Wallet Edition
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-The Game's Demo
>links to cytube and Steam group removed third OP in a row
>implying Asgore wouldn't move on like Toriel, understanding that he doesn't need to appeal to somebody who is stubborn in their ways.
Some cute furefag out there would like him anyway. He'll find love.
That's what you get for not waiting for the bump limit.
Growing up the the goat, being the loving brother he wanted but never had
because Chara's a girl!
Toriel if you're a delusional nostalgiafag
Uhhh, I don't know about anyone else. He only even speaks to like five characters in game, and only a couple more seem to know him well personally.
Gerson, maybe? They'd be a similar age and have been through a lot together, Gerson was his trusted confidant, advisor and warrior before he alienated him with his human-killing plan that went directly against what him, Toriel and Gerson had agreed was best for monsters as a whole.
Why the fuck does Toby hate Asgore so much anyways, goes the whole game building him up as a decent guy stuck in a shitty situation then shits all over him in the TP ending and on twitter.
Does Toby have daddy issues?
>mfw I know exactly how it feels to be hated by people you want nothing more than to be appreciated by.
Hey guys, I'm back for some last
ANGERposting before I take a shower and nap for the rest of the night.
Also taking requests for shitty mspaint pics.
I think it's because a big theme of the game is how doing the right thing is what makes you a good person, not what your intentions are. Hence Genocide treating the player as utterly monstrous even if Sans deduces that the player is simply bored or curious rather than actively malevolent.
Asgore had good intentions, never wanted to hurt anyone, and was a very kind and gentle person, but what he did and continued to do (murder and ultimately genocide based on revenge and fear) was pretty horrific. And it wasn't like he made the choice to stop it, either - he only stops trying to kill you because Toriel and the others show up, not because of his own morality-crisis.
And it'd mess up the pacing of the game if it gave us a big Asgore-redemption arc right after Alphys' one, probably.
>It probably has something to do with the fact he murdered 6 kids
Toby wrote that though, and he still made the situation very ambiguous up until TP where he just went LOL NOPE HE WAS SHIT ALL ALONG AFTER ALL
I found a very important video
Reminder that this exists
Sans buddy I don't think he meant it so literally
Burgerpants is for bullying
>I think it's because a big theme of the game is how doing the right thing is what makes you a good person, not what your intentions are.
What shitty black and white logic, you're probably right though
The monsters that mutated from her experiments were described as "bestial", she basically not only made them mentally handicapped but don't they also say their "bodies" fused together
It's better than actually being gone and dead but it's sort of like those creatures won't be entirely who they were before
Alphys didn't kill anyone, and her experimentation was done under Asgore's orders with his permission.
She fucked up in hiding the amalgamates, but as her ruler and patron Asgore was obligated to find out what had happened. He didn't make any attempt to do so beyond sending her a couple of text-messages.
And ultimately Alphys made the choice to do the right thing, whereas Asgore never got the chance to. And probably wouldn't have anyway, he fights you to the death unless stopped by outside influences.
Because we've over-idealized him to absurd levels?
black and white color pattern
And yet nowhere in the game is it brought to the player's attention that Toriel could have intervened after the very first kid, and instead waited until the 7th before she decided "Hey, maybe I should do something"
And even then, she waits so long that she doesn't even show up in time unless you went fucking around with Alphys and in the True Lab
Well it's kind of true.
I'd rather be treated nicely by someone with selfish intentions than be treated horrifically by someone with good intentions, wouldn't anyone?
It isn't a question of whether Asgore's a good person or not, it's a question of whether his actions are. Even the most kind and selfless man can do terrible things, as shown by him.
>Feeling left out because you're not attracted to any of the characters
Unfortunately, that's literally the only image like that.
There's this but it's really not even close
He is pretty cute.
Asgore destroying the mercy button probably meant that he took away your option of showing him mercy, not so much the other way around
I mean, he didn't destroy his own mercy button, did he?
So I guess it's that time of the night then?
Don't get me wrong, Toriel's morality is a joke. She basically leaves the kids for dead if they tell her they don't want to stick around the goddamn ruins forever, and her sending them into danger alone and unprepared (she doesn't tell them Asgore's plan, what he looks like, or that they'd need to kill him to leave) is pretty indefensible.
But her faults lie in her passiveness and failure to appropriately deal with someone elses shit. It wasn't Toriel that made the underground so violently anti-human, it was Asgore.
I sort of wish that the game paid more attention to this than it did, but can understand why it didn't.
Asgore will kill you literally every time he can unless you kill him first.
Every single time. If he had his own mercy button it's irrelevant, since he certainly wasn't planning on using it. And need I remind you that destroying the mercy button stops you from running away, too?
I spent a good fifteen or so lives trying everything to get him to stop attacking me, or provide dialog advancement, or anything. He never did.
not like this thread has anything else going for it.
Forgot the picture
Too late, It's happening anyway.
Which one would you worship first?
He also doesn't start the battle until you tell him that you're ready and don't have anything else you need to do and all that stuff
Theoretically, you could just fuck off at that point and hang with Papyrus and Sans for the rest of your life and he'll let you do that
Here is your wosh. Now I'm going to go follow in Wosh's footsteps and take a shower.
Yes. That is exactly what I'm saying.
Kind, fluffy goat-dad is the only monster in the game who you cannot end the battle with peacefully. You can be spared by Toriel. You can be spared by Papyrus. You can run away from the extremely murderous-intented Unydyne, and even befriend her later. You can be spared by the narcissistic robot.
Everyone but Asgore.
there's an objectively correct answer to this question
I want to save this picture because of that Asriel but the hideous looking Frisk ruins it.
The thing is Asgore is suppose to be a king and kings have to put their peoples needs before their own. otherwise you get shit like Toriel who just ditched as soon as everyone didn't agree with her. Toby seems to take the stand that they should have all just stayed trapped forever and let humans wonder around BUT then also goes out of his way to have the only humans shown be massive massive assholes (or at least Chara is, Frisk is ambiguous but considering how genocide ends doesn't do a lot in humanity's favor.)
What hes doing is demonizing the ones that made bad or hard choices but then also saying its perfectly okay to exploit what they did for your own personal happiness. It just feels really weird to me tbqh
anyways enough dumb ranting about this dmb bullshit and everyone should just go back to posting goat lewds
Where's my swoletale + gundertale art?
God fucking damn it, I'm no furry and I'm normally a Sans fag, but I'd fuck that goat in a heartbeat.
Do you think he rainbows during orgasms?
Well I do now
>things are getting steamy between you and Asriel
>sudden goatparents come home
>trying to act like nothing is out of the ordinary while your face is covered in glitter and the room smells like Starbursts
Frisk (who might I add is a small child) had spent the whole game A) being told that Asgore was nice and would let them leave peacefully, and B) that listening to adults when they told them to fuck off or give up was a shitty idea.
Frisk/the player have every reason to believe that Asgore is all talk like everyone else, and there will be a peaceful resolution to the conflict if you just try.
It's only Asgore that breaks the pattern. Frisk could (and did, if you spare him at the end of the battle) have entered the fight with the purest possible intentions, it doesn't matter. Asgore will kill them all the same unless you fight back, not a single other monster in the game (bar Flowey, who along with Genocide Chara is the most 'evil' creature in the game along with not even being a real monster) does this.
>Technicolor gote cum
Can presumably be used as a road flare in a pinch
Doesn't matter if you're a furfag, gote is too fluffy to ignore.
>there will never be a full version of the Mettaton NEO song that covers the entirety of Battle Against a True Hero
>people saying you can't spare Asgore when you literally can, you just happen to have to fight him first
You just have to fulfill the requirements first, Undyne will also murder the shit out of you unless you run, Mettaton will unless you get his ratings up, Mad dummy will unless you wait him out, etc
How is that any different aside from actually having to hit the fight button? If it was a straight up battle to the death I would agree but its not.
Asgore wants you to kill him. That's why he'll kill himself if you try to give him mercy on repeated neutral runs.
At the same time, he can't just let you kill him because that's abandoning his people and he made his decision to put his people's hopes above his morals and his happiness a long time ago. So he fights you, but because he has almost no actual killing intent, he holds back heavily, his actual stats being far weaker than they appear and him always knocking you down to 1 HP before finishing you off. It's the same situation he was put in when it all began, he either abandons the hopes of the underground and lets you kill him, or he continues with his plan and maintains hope even if he hates what he's doing and thinks he deserves to die for it.
And just like how he handled getting human souls, he barely puts in an effort at fighting you because he doesn't actually want to fight, he doesn't want power, and he doesn't want to wage a war.
Calling the underground violently anti-human is fucking hilarious and shows just how out of touch and/or overly selfish she really is. The most bloodthirsty of them all can be reasoned with after you get away from her and she has time to cool down and talk to you. The rest of them are basically from childrens books in terms of how mean they are. Mercenaries? Nope.
Toriel is just like Asgore in that her heart is in the right place but she also chooses mediocrity over a selfless solution. Truthfully, if anyone (Gerson?) could have talked her into staying at the start and calming down Asgore, everything would have turned out great. But they were both too weak after their son died.
Now stop blaming, that's not what the game is about.
Why is Undyne so great?
>Mettaton will never bully you
Frisk can also play with time willy-nilly to resurrect themselves from death
A normal kid, on top of probably not risking death in order to try and spare a number of bosses, will probably either try and kill Asgore so they can leave or fuck off when he lets them fuck off
The only reason you can't just live with Toriel or Papyrus/Sans is because it's a video game and Toby didn't feel like adding in more than three types of endings
My menu was the skelebros and goatmom until a moment ago, what the fuck happened and how do I fix it?
Well, the monsters WERE pretty violently opposed to the IDEA of humanity at least. Bratty and Catty (a couple of average, unaggressive teenagers) are SO hyped for the destruction of millions of civilians who haven't done a thing to them, and probably don't even know they exist.
By the time that you come to the underground though, the wounds over the death of Asriel seem to have largely healed or been forgotten, and no-one actually seems to hate humans all that much even as they cheer for their extinction. They're so out of touch they don't even know what they look like.
In Toriel's defense, she's hundreds of years old, and has spent the whole time living like a hermit in the ruins with nothing but the odd froggit and vegetoid around her. And they say they're too scared of her to communicate much, too.
She could actually be perfectly justified in assuming that the anti-human sentiment is as high as it would have been right after shit went down, given her isolation she doesn't really know that the political climate has changed so much.
Thing is Asgore himself think that going to the surface is a bad idea because he believes that the humans will wipe them out this time (and remember that they had the opportunity to do so before, the barrier was basically a mercy for the monsters).
So it was a decision between leading his people into one hell of a meat grinder or telling them to forget getting sometime that most monster never had, and to try to make the best with what they had.
It would be pretty cool if Frisk became a silent Nero, with Chara being his Dante conscience while the Underground was ruled by demons, where our lovable characters are being overpowered.
That's just my fantasy
Tell me about it.
I sorta wish that the genocide/neutral menus displayed mementos or trophies of slain bosses. Like an empty chair, a plate of spaghetti, a spear stuck in the ground, a leg, etc.
Get outta here. Asriel may be a little kid but he will grow up to be more like his dad. Though probably not quite as huge.
Ironically Asgore plan to stall was probably the only one that would have worked long term since it allowed enough time to pass allowing everyone to move on from their hatred, kept them safe from any hostile humans that might have fallen (which Chara very much was, even if they didn't know it) and set up the events that would lead to the barrier being broken and peaceful integration.
>telling them to forget getting sometime that most monster never had, and to try to make the best with what they had.
The thing is the game goes out of its way to point out how this wasn't working what with the overcrowding, general depressive attitude of the monster race and how many of them commented that the hope of seeing the surface again was all that was keeping them going.
There's too many goats, and not enough Skeletons in this thread.
We need to fix this.
Skeletons really scare me down to the bone though, I don't want to.
I'll have to take a rain check since I'm going to bed now.
good night /utg/ Be nice
Oh shoot, had a small earthquake just now.
I got you, senpai.
I wasn't ever mad at you or anyone else, shit was pretty civil I thought.
I don't actually like any of the goats all that much, but they're some of the most interesting characters to talk about. Have a fish and a skeleton instead, everyone likes them.
I don't have anymore tongue so have some fluff
damn, meant for >>128733754
Papyrus is so cute
I don't think you realize just what I mean.
I killed every monster on the face of the earth, and was forced to eat the remains of Snowbro in order to defeat Sans.
>tfw no cute goat DILF to cuddle with on long cold nights
i just searched for "alphys" on google images and the first result is literally porn
WHO DID THIS
Wow anon, that's just cold.
Ah, I see.
He was never your friend, just your prisoner.
If the stolen chunk of him had any level of sentience left, they would have spent the whole time cowering in terror at what you were doing, and the knowledge that their unwilling, horrible sacrifice would be actively helping you on your evil quest.
I hope this makes you feel better!
papyrus is my favorite magical girl
i mostly just avoided everyone else and ate the food pellet things. you would not believe how many people run into you. also, a lot of opportunistic attacks and using those spiky things to give everyone a B A D T I M E.
you can shoot mass at them to make another one pop out in the opposite direction from where the mass is hitting it. i'm too good at dodging for that to work on me, but there were a few close calls.
wound up getting eaten by a giant spider cell because whoever was paps went afk, and the rest of the leaderboard ganged up on me.
How could a skeleton be so perfect?
Oh trust me. After just completing a pacifist route I was getting very used to seeing all of my allies turn against me in the geno route.
Still, even though they were all monsters who threatened humanity I would have done anything anything if Snowbro had asked. I only wish he'll forgive me for that momentary lapse of judgement when fighting Sans.
Post silly skeletons.
you gotta kidnap toby and force him to code a new ending
or just fall inlove with the goat-flower instead as the next best thing
Will we ever learn about Gaster?
Will we ever get an updated Undertale where you can randomly load into timelines where Sans was Gaster'd instead of Gaster, so we can get additional lore?
speaking of goat flower
I can almost never find any art of him
I should ask crybleat to draw goat flower next time they take requests
I've been preaching that a while but people don't wanna hear it, let them have SAVE fics or whatever weird shit they do now
Unsure, but I wanna see this translated
Gaster is better left as pure headcanon material, any official version of him would just cause disappointment at this point
So, friends. What is your favorite track out of the game?
>mods deleting actual dissuasion about the game
Whoa, what the heck just happened?
Why did a bunch of normal post just get deleted?
he's cuter as a flower desu
i'd rather go back down and visit him after the monsters are freed to make sure he's watered, and entertain him for a while
maybe he'd even come up to the surface eventually
That's different. I only clicked on him the third time to apologize. It wasn't me who killed him, it was Hiro Protagahnest.
wew lad looks like goathour is over
time for flower hour!
Crybleat drew this for me earlier
Pretty based desu
Mods take down my post? Fine.
It wont stop me. Look at the goat nerd. Look at him. I'm going back.
See you fuckers after the next run is finished.
>even Sans posts are considered nukeworthy now
I wouldn't mind it, but a lot of what makes the song great is stuff like the Zunpets and mechanizing everything would take away the appeal.
Mods don't like anything but robots and ghosts
Or actually discussion of video games it seems.
This anon has the right idea. Cute sans in a time of crisis.
No silly, they're just freeing up space for more goat
Okay, I admit it. I killed him because I was on my third playthrough and didn't want another neutral route. I went full genocide. Kill everyone. Best friend included.
I mean the Snowman, not the kid.
Posting cool skeletons in this time of purge.
These purges happen around the same time every day, I'm trying to wrap my head around it. I think that someone just has it out for this game.
ᛉ◎Ů ⏏Rᗱ Ⱎ€\_ɔᛖᏋ ┳◎ Ϯʁ⅌.
¦ Ⴙ◎\_Đ ┳ႹᏋ \_€▲|).
gaster pls go
I can't even read half of that shit
I know, but I think it seems more like a copycat than the legit thing, because 99% of the original Hiro's stuff was 'this is stupid I hate it'.
Or maybe she just learned to have fun and post fun, I hope so.
Don't mind the orange autism.
Sometimes I wished I liked Sans more, he gets cool fanart
What's your super, unironically edgy backstory for Chara?
Five bucks says Ebott was in some third world shithole long before the events of the game and Chara was a child soldier who fell in after slaughtering his abusive platoon.
He also didn't like cartoons
Suits are also good.
Here comes a real cool dude
Honestly, it's less the orange and more how bad pupils look on Papyrus that gets me about this shit.
He looks completely different if you change his button-eyes, I can't help but read this as his orange eye looking in a completely different direction from his normal one.
Nice art, though.
Is... is it safe to come back out?
I think Papyrus looks great in blue, and if the orange were blue in all the fanart it would be way cooler. Sans also looks great in red for some reason. I can ignore the orange but still.
You're not missing much. Sans gets the worst ratio of shit art to good by far. It really sucks when you have to wade through a hundred pics that either misinterpret him or turn him into something he's not just to find the stuff that's not garbage.
Got you covered anon
I know, I have trouble using google image search sometimes too. It's okay.
Chara is the reincarnation of Genghis Khan, and wants to conquer all of Asia. This desire lead him to Mt. Ebott, looking to harness the monster souls to fulfill his dream. Unfortunately his plan failed.
Eventually though, he possess Frisk in a second attempt to conquer Asia, choosing Frisk for his Mongolian heritage.
This is one of the perks of liking less popular characters. Still a lot of shit, but it's much easier to sort through, and it's easy to follow the not uncountable number of good artists that draw them a lot.
Not poster, but thanks anon.
Just so you guys know, Id spare each and every one of you. <3
"Oh Frisk, I didn't see you there. How are you doing today, come to visit the gar-"
>"Toriel says you're a sick man and I shouldn't talk to you but in her sleep she says that she misses your "cockstink."
Are you sure?
He also gets a ton of weird stuff.
For every 1 good post, there's about 100 autistic images you need to sort though, first.
Most of it is Onceler-tier garbage, so no you don't.
He cleans up like a boss, and then he gets messy like he has a point to make.
I like to think that Chara was a hero who was granted divine powers from the heavens so that (s)he could smite all abominations that doth threaten humanity.
Chara is perhaps the greatest hero that there is in the game. Even in the genocide route Chara conquers the monsterworld single-handedly allowing humanity to step in and occupy it whenever they see fit.
After all, even the saintliest purest of heart monster who could do no wrong still ended up turning to the darkness and threatening humanity. If that's the example (I'm reffering to Asriel) of the best monster-kind have to offer then as a servant of humanity Chara was given no choice but to wipe them all off the face of the Earth.
I was trying to sleep but was listening to spooky stories and spooked myself awake
Thanks for IDing that, it's like the one fucking image in my folder that both lacks a retracable image name, and is impossible to reverse image search. Sorry, anon who was looking for it
Have a picture of Chara being Frisk's 「STANDO」.
>After all, even the saintliest purest of heart monster who could do no wrong still ended up turning to the darkness and threatening humanity.
no they didn't, even the worst real monster (not counting Flowey who isn't really a monster) couldn't bring themselves to threaten humanity as a whole
>You can click on a tumblr link, scroll down to the post, and find a link directly to the source there.
I know, but most of the time when it shows a tumblr in the results it's lost somewhere in the 30th page.
Nicely dressed skeletons is my one weakness.
Chara hated humanity to the extent of wanting them all dead, which is exactly what they get in the genocide route. They kill monsters and use the power obtained from it to destroy all the humans too, you double dumbo.
Chara was a filthy monster-sympathizer at best.
What spooky stories anon?
Do you want me to cuddle you to sleep?
post fanart that is almost good aside from one small detail that ruins the whole thing
that fucking nose
Sometimes I'm browsing through Undertale art to try and dig up some gems and I'm reminded that there are enormous crowds of people (read: teenage girls) who unironically like this complete fucking garbage.
Worst is when Papyrus gets dragged into their shitty fantasies, like pretty much everything about the Mafia AU, or when Underswap turns him into a pedo dom who rapes his mentally challenged brother, or all the ones where he just fucking dies for no reason other than cheap angst bait.
Asriel is the not the saintliest purest of heart monster. He comes close but he's no match.
Asriel, Asgore, Papyrus, and Undyne all represented clear threat to humanity with their actions.
Any true champion of justice would do the right thing and make sure they can never hurt or threaten anyone ever again.
Sad thing is a lot of them aren't even teenagers. You got all these people in their twenties acting like they never left the Twilight years and that's before you get to the ecto belly vore skelepreg shit.
>Undyne's badly-drawn tits