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We don't have an official steamgroup. If anyone posts in the thread about any "official" or not steamgroup, promising MP or not, be sure it's a shitposter group known for organizing raids and shitposting in the thread. They are known for false-flagging.
Report and ignore it

How fares your empire, /gsg/?

This day in history, January 16th:
27 BC – Gaius Julius Caesar Octavianus is granted the title Augustus by the Roman Senate, marking the beginning of the Roman Empire.
750 – The army of Abdallah ibn Ali and Abu Awn Abd al-Malik ibn Yazid defeats that of Marwan II in the Battle of the Zab, bringing the Abbasid Revolution to completion.
929 – Emir Abd-ar-Rahman III established the Caliphate of Córdoba.
1945 – Adolf Hitler moves into his underground bunker, the so-called Führerbunker.


>News
HOI4 DD 40
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/hearts-of-iron-iv-40th-development-diary-15th-of-january-2016.902478/

EU4 DD 14/01
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/eu4-dev-diary-january-14th-2016.902300/

CK2 Conclave DD 1
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/conclave-dev-diary-1.902002/

>Random Country Picker
http://randomcountry.gbasood.net/


# Archive
https://mega.co.nz/#F!WZZFXDyT!yyb25ZuLdLs0B8vhoKS3LA

# Mods
>> READ THIS FIRST.
http://pastebin.com/cCdcev76

>>EU4 - BDSM
http://pastebin.com/vYbnKvK2

>>[CK2 - 2.4.5] - After The End
https://github.com/notalbanian/postapoc

>>[V2] - 7 Years v0.1
http://pastebin.com/tsPsr70u

>>[V2] - Historical Project Mod 0.3.2.1 - 23/12/2015
http://pastebin.com/66gpxbKk

>>[V2] - Napoleon's Legacy v0.3.1.5
http://pastebin.com/sN1g69sr

>>[V2] Alternative Flag Pack V6
http://pastebin.com/PRQH8vcV

>>[V2] Many Houses Divided - v 0.0.1.1
https://www.dropbox.com/s/jso7qa1c4ystej7/MHD.rar

>>[HoI3] YAMDaM v0.54
http://www.mediafire.com/download/md4tzqe2gg6stfv/

Old thread >>128614478
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Reminder to report and ignore shitposting.
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First for Taiwan numba wan
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CHINA DLC PLS
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>>128705972
>2015+1
>not liking funposting
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>>128706078
Why
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>>128706078
wut mod
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>>128706078
>Joseon there without any of the Korean peninsula
literally for what purpose
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>>128706242
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/mod-the-warring-states-period-chunqiu-zhanguo-mod.765384/
>>128706201
Because it would be great?
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r8
>tfw can't go out drinking because I'm fucking broke
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>>128706359
>Because it would be great?
Yeah, assuming they 1. optimized the game (lol xDD 233333~) and 2. actually put work into a system for China instead of pulling a Byzantium
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Is it possible to remain the French Empire indefinitely after installing Napoleon III in HPM? What are the conditions for doing so?
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>>128706398
Why the fuck did the UK have Oklahoma?
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>>128706527
Don't lose Alsace-Lorraine.
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What went wrong /gsg/?
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this is the best europe which has ever existed historically
prove me wrong
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>>128706578
They didn't, they were allied with the CSA so they were war leader.
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>>128706604
Jiang Jieshi was incompetent and Mao completely lost his shit after a while
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This thread was made in the name of Allah, the most gracious, the most merciful.
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guys whats fun things i can do in Europa Universalis 4 using cheats ?
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>>128706829
...................................
bearhaslanded.
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>>128706717
>Bulgaria doesn't own Macedonia

Take it back to the drawing board
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>>128706816
thanks crane
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>>128706604
He didn't industrialize and westernize his country by importing minds like Japan did. Nor killed the local warlords that eventually broken the country apart.

An united, rich and powerful China would mean the end of the West anyways.
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>>128706118
You know what? Fuck you
Every day I slave away for you ungrateful fucks and you never recognize that i'm the one keeping this fucking general alive
And never has there been a single person to thank me for this
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>>128706717
>no Finland
>no Poland
>Australian Trent
>German A-L
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>>128706604

he helped end the last dynasty
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>>128707019
Not the end but at least China wouldn't be Murica 2.0: The Declaration of False Communism edition
>>128707042
>you're the one keeping this general alive
Lad I posted 75 posts in the last thread alone.
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>>128707163
Qing was going to implode anyway.
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>>128707186
So what, I slave away creating new threads, updating the OP and deleting useless posts, but everyone only talks about "the 'report and ignore autist'"
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>>128707435
Look kid they don't even talk about me, when the thread dies they'll all remember the autist in their hearts but they're certainly not remember the nameless anon #55553112267
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>>128707042
lmao kill yourself
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>>128707435
>pretending to be the OP, a janitor, the report and ignore guy when both aren't even the same IP
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>>128707042
wew
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>>128707042
false flag
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>>128706604

Single handedly destroyed the legitimacy of the republic & kicked off the warlord era
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>>128707435
I'd rather have /gsg/ die than have the report and ignore autist and jannies shit it up.
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>>128707547
>>128707757
>>128707547
Sure, just because I want a little recognition I must be a random shitposter?
You know what, fuck you
Go back to posting useless shit that no one cares about and only serve to fuck up the thread
I don't even know why I do this shit for you
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>>128704917
>republican
>dream
Died right there.
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>>128708384
jejej
try posting quicker next time, you look like a samefag
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>>128708239
>>128708384
>101 seconds difference
>talking to yourself and deleting your own posts
>still pretending to be that guy and the OP when both are not even the same IP
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I'm making the official call for Aurora 4x.

Terraforming installations > Terraforming ships
Before you leave Sol this is indisputable. It's just too damn expensive and time consuming to build the ships. First it's going to take years to get a shipyard to a real size so you aren't building ships with 1 god damn module on them. Then they take up precious Mercassium, while installations only take Duranium and Boronide. Then you need to build all the other ship shit that makes them go in space which is more resources and a side effect, more time.

If you build infrastructure right then the colonies should start building enough of their own to be self sufficient until you terraform the planet, then you ought to have tens of thousands of infrastructure to move around and repeat the process.
Unless you're retarded and you try to put infrastructure on Venus. They're only going to complain your whole game and put interrupts in your auto-turns. It can be colonized, but only by ships and it will take like 100 years from the moment you start to colonize it.
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>>128708872
>br
wew lad
kill yourself
delete yourself then
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>>128708840
wrong thread
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Can the norse culture split start before 950 or atleast the appearance of normans?
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>>128708872
>implying this isn't a false flag false flag
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>>128709000
>playing meme start dates
>not wanting believable worlds where half of europe is reformed north by 1000
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>>128708840
Aurora 4X belongs to /civ4xg/.
>>>/vg/civ4xg/
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>>128708924
>>128709083
>replying to non-existent posts
>>>/r/eddit
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>>128709521
s-sorry anon
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>>128709557
dumb stutterposter
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>>128709134
I'm just doing a fuck around run
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>>128709693
s-sorry anon
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>>128706604
He died before he could complete his job and the KMT was taken over by fucking Chiang Kai-shek
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>>128709976
>tfw passably competent king with 16 martial and 12 diplomacy dies in the middle of a civil war
>tfw heir is imbecile
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>>128708927
I want faggot casuals to leave.
>>128709314
That's hilarious. I love 15 post threads.
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Why Postapoc mod for the CK2 wasn't updated for half a year? Is it completely abandoned?
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>>128710019
s-sorry anon
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>>128710737
>jewdick
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>>128710737
>pushing the can that far in
insecure much lmao
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>>128710737
I've seen this dick before, you can't fool me, Anon.
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I'm so hungry for a gsg that I even tried Civ5

EU, Vicky and HoI can only last so long
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>>128706527
Don't lose Franco-Prussian wars, don't give any voting rights
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My Lithuanian Meme-ga Campaign came to an abrupt end when my genius, heirless king died of explosive diarrhea while conquering Poland.

Who should I try this time? Only restrictions are: no Muzzies, no Republics, no Hindus. The memier the better.
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>>128711564
Are you playing with a mod? Either way, do the classic persia takeover. That or a hellenic roman restoration starting in that one province gap between the two papal provinces.
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>>128711727
>>128711564
Also - Enatic succession.
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http://strawpoll.me/6549487
http://strawpoll.me/6549487
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>>128711945
>290+ votes in one minute
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>>128712191
Whoever is spamming didn't even pick the correct choice
Mongolia-Hungary
unHPM make it happen
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I let them win or I wait until they win the elections?
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>>128712464
If you don't care about immigrants then let them win.
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>>128712464
there should be an option to just let the rebels win. make it happen hpm
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>>128712464
>losing prestige
get them to win the elections
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>>128712745
there is, type
[~break]
but without the brackets
this is a special hpmeme command
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I-I just can't do it anymore
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>>128714883
What do you need me to post another dick, you faggot?
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>>128714883
forgot muh pic
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>>128715068
Ayyy, you have that Shen nigger added too, i don't know how the fuck he plays so much EUIV without killing himself.
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Why is Crusader Kings 2 such a meme game without any historical thought put into it?
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>>128715339
it was a big hit with casuals so they targeted them with every dlc
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>>128715245
Shen's a furry and a cuck. If he hasn't killed himself already, he's never going to.
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I can't stop singing this especially the part of George

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCEUZ4rFiac
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>>128715397
>>128715339
Which is weird because the game's actually got the most 'going on' in any Paradox title. More mechanic-minigames, more depth, more planning required. Easy to learn, difficult to 'master'.
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y tho
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>>128715009
>>128715115
>>128715329
>>128715520
>>128715624
Funposting hater janny strike again
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>>128716051
rip
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is yamdam good
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>>128717446
no
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>>128717446
yes
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yes or no you fucking cucks
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>>128717446
idk
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>>128717446
Maybe
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>>128717580
maybe yes or maybe no, I never played it
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How do I buy Alaska as Japan?
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>>128717446
I once invaded and annexed Israel as Syria in a few months with no response from the US or anyone else.
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>>128717772
yes
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>>128717772
no
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>>128717772
maybe
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I wish dynamic province names was in Victoria 2. It's one of the things that I like about EU4.
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>>128718154
no
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>>128718154
maybe
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>>128710570
The github was yesterday.
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>>128717772
i don't know
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>>128718154
What vicky needs is dynamic treaties.
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>>128714828
thank you anon
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The Germans really are the worst blobbers.
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Will Conclave make CK2 playable?

It looks like Parajews are actually trying to make something decent for once.
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>>128718747
fake bullshit
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>>128719175
*jewish propaganda
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rate my borders ladettes
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Yo, Alternative flag pack guy. You said that you were having trouble making a non silver legion US fascist flag, I think that the flag of the Commander-in-Chief's Guard from the revolutionary war could be a good inspiration.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commander-in-Chief%27s_Guard

"Conquer or Die" is too cool of a phrase to not use.
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>>128718959
>Infamy
>Coalitions
>Shattered Retreat

Nope
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>>128718959
>still no way to turn off india or limit the amount of non landed characters

no
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>>128719876
>Infamy
>Coalitions
>CK2
Why did they think this was a good idea?
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HPMguy, what's your thoughts on this submod that someone on the paradox forums made?

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/historical-project-mod-submod.880610/
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>>128720748
holy crackers, that is a lot of brigades
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I'm going to do a Japan game, and go for these borders.

Pink are either objectives for late game, or countries I will just puppet.

Did I forget anything ?
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>mfw I convert to Christianity as the emperor of Imperial Poland and everyone in my empire is apparently fine with it.

They even converted to Catholicism within a week, feels strange but now I can conquer the Baltics guilt-free.
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in EU4 what nation has the most unique events?
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I'm so bored of Earth all the time, holy shit.

I wish there was a mod that gave a completely new world to play in, new countries and events an decisions and all.
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>>128721451
stellaris

CK2 mods
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>>128721352
East Asia Co Prosperity Sphere
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>>128721451
Stellaris :))
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>>128721451
Lux Invicta
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>>128721508
>>128721542
>Futureshit
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>>128721451
Warhammer.
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>>128721631
I said not Earth.

>>128721834
I said something new.
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Finally finished with fucking Rumelia, Greco-Turkish War time

I'm also going to test the feasibility of complete population exchanges, I want to have population exchange events/decisions for Serbia, Greece, Turkey, and Montenegro

Anyone want a download with the version that only has Rumelia?
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>>128721920
a game of memes
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>>128721524
Where's the one with the Italian Empire in it.

>>128721938
Is it compatible as a submod for HPM?
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>>128721352
Make sure to include wars that do nothing but hinder the Chinese.
Don't just have more land and people than them, actively drive them lower as well.
Turn them into harmless mud farmers.
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>>128722080
got ya senpai
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>>128721920
i started to draw up a shitty map for an idea for that kinda shit

if it's any good i could give it another go
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>>128722080
Yep, it actually can't function by itself, so HPM is a must
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>>128722069
>I said something new
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>>128722159
So what are the different shades supposed to represent?
Or do they just distinguish the territory as it exists today? But then there's the French thing.
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>>128722214
Give us a DL link.

>>128722204
Are you playing with plate tectonics? I've been fucking around with making a new world but can never make the landmasses believable.
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>>128722347
I believe its degrees of autonomy
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>>128722159
>Antarctica
Why
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>>128722491

>degrees of autonomy
>Brazil is directly controlled by Germany
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>>128722603
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Swabia
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>>128722469
i gave it a thought or two but i never actually got very into it because i literally know nothing about it and couldn't find relevant material to learn

mostly i thought of induvidual landmasses that exist already and pasted them together, pic related
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>>128722785
believe the name of the region has something to do with it, and the colors are extremely similar but Brazil is lighter
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>>128722915
whats that blue shit on the top
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>>128722214
Here lad, v.01

Features Eastern Rumelia and not much else, completely compatible with HPM, eastern Rumelia gets released during the Berlin Congress, there are events that move some turkish pops in rumelia to istanbul and Bulgaria can annex Rumelia if they have Mass Politics.

I'll start with Crete since that was the cause of the Greco-Turkish War

From this map it appears the Turks didn't have as much of an ethnic presence irl that they do in HPM, so I'll try to find some census data then fix it.
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>>128723175
brittany desu
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>>128721432
England or Turks senpai
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>>128723201
fuck I'm retarded here's the link
https://www.mediafire.com/?90rar9i5jkcavya
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>>128722159
Fuck, that is a sexy flag.

>>128722915
This is what I have. I have some sort of strange inner sea system going on on the Old Continent, and the New World isn't very big.
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>>128722786
what is japan doing there
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http://poal.me/fe07e0
http://poal.me/fe07e0
http://poal.me/fe07e0
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meet my son
the king of italy

how this happen? The holy roman empire took over most of northern italy and to be honest I want to limit the kaiser's power. An invasion later and boom no more germans in italy.

but now came the hard part of holding it, so in a bold political move I made my son catholic and then made him king of italy, my other son is also a king so I wont inherit the kingdom, thank god, but now that I have family on the thrones of italy and the byzantine emprie I can assure I have dominance over meditteranean politics.

r8 my political power plays
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>>128706717
>Turks control Constantinople
>Turks control Antioch
>Turks control Jerusalem
>Turks control Alexandria

try again kid
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I still maintain East vs West could have been fixed simply by increasing the amount of supplies created in provinces and toning down rebel frequency.
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>>128723731
delete this you fucking antisemite
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>>128723371
looks good, but in my opinion it'd need some work to be aesthetic. the trick to making shit i deem good is to maximize recognizable features and go for simple shapes. I've highlighted areas that i'd revise if it were my project.

most of these are for shape instead of coastline, but just keep in mind that 99 percent of the time a square peninsula is a shit peninsula
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>>128706717
>Portugal doesn't control Galicia
shit/10
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>>128723201
Here's the problem, there are way too many turks in Crete. Historical, although Crete had a sizable muslim population, many of those muslims were Greek converts who converted to get favorable taxes/civil advantages. I'm going to halve the Turk population but replace the removed turks with muslim Greeks. The religion wont change, but the ethnicity will.

Here's sources
The Near East: A modern history by Ann Arbor
Cretan Rebel: Eleftherios Venizelos in Ottoman Crete

I'll be off for now, hopefully Crete's pops will be done by tomorrow
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I've played out HoI2
I've played out Vicky2
I've played out EU4 and I can't go back to 3
I don't want to play CK2, Aurora or HoI4

There's fucking nothing left
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>>128724286
How does it feel to know you're making a based minimod but HPM all never integrate it because he's a massive faggot?

Also, did you make the Greek culture's colour blue or HPM?
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>>128724423
Learn HoI3 then you fucking mong.
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>>128724423
DH and Kaiserreich
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>>128724423
ck2 is okay

did you try some esoteric shit like rhodesia or ?
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>>128724426
Just like he never integrated AMM, the sudetes changes, the persia minimod or any of the others
Oh wait
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>>128724576
By HoI2 I mean DH of course, synonymous

KR has been played out

>>128724585
Are you saying Rhodesia in CK2?
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Why the fuck is the FRCA breaking up when everything is under control and I have little militancy. I lost Nicaragua and Costa Rica in the beginning then later on they want to join and immediately the FRCA dissolves and plunges into civil war despite no problems. WTF
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>>128724426
Meh, It wouldn't bother me if he ignored it, I'll keep updating it, he's not that bad

The Greek color thing is an HPM thing, he added it fairly recently
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>>128724712
Except he specifically said he wouldn't integrate this mod because he's a massive fucking faggot.

Not sure about Persia but he extremely begrudgingly changed the Sudetenland due to popular appeal.
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>>128724780
no, for vicky you fucking mongoloid
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>>128724879
That's a whole lot of claims batman, you got any sauce to back that up?
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>>128724829
After this can you take over the Australia minimod please? There's been a guy "working on it" for more than a year now.
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>>128724974
Well you could easily try a 'rhodesia' for EU or perhaps even HoI

Yes I have and it wasn't that fun.
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>>128724991
Yes, let me just pull out every single /gsg/ post, which I screenshot and save for future reference at all times.
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>>128725009
I've heard of the mod, what does it do? I might try to keep it alive, but no promises.
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>>128725120
It's not like he posts with a searchable trip or anything like that, right?
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>>128725069
yeah okay that makes sense
but not for ck2

converting shitty eu4 games is okay

i liked british columbia, and colonial british argentina
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>>128725210
It's not like archive.moe recently closed and there is no good site to search /vg/ posts, is it?

Why can't you just take my word for it? I'm hardly going to lie about such a pointless thing.
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>>128725361
Here friendo
https://boards.fireden.net/
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>>128725361
It's not like we have other 2 sites wroking as archives and archive.moe is completly irrelevant since when the guy started it was already dead, right?
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>>128725198
It was supposed to divide Australia into it's individual states prior to federalisation as happened in real life rather than Britain just giving them independence as Australia, of course it never did because the creator was a PoS who managed to make the first ever vaporware mod.
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>>128725489
>>128725463
Alright I'll level with yah, lads, this is rob here, I was trying to defamate HPM again.

Seriously though, even you have to admit he's stubborn to add anything, during the Sudetenland debacle people were trying to get him to add it and he said it was pointless as the German minority was already represented and that such a thin border would cause graphical issues, in short he tried to swerve it.
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>>128725705
So absolutely no proof at all?

>he said it was pointless as the German minority was
If you know what he said it makes it even easier to find the post
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>>128724585
What's rhodesia?
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>>128725509
I dunno, would it even have an effect on gameplay besides just having more satellites/tags in Australia?
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>>128725509
pretty pointless imo, what next, 5 independent substates in Canada prior to confederation? The country received independence as a united Australia, anything that happened before that was shifting administrative responsibilities.
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>>128725859
Jesus the HPMIDF is busting my balls tonight.

I don't know his exact words, I'm paraphrasing, I believe you're practising some pretty rampant cognitive dissonance in not acknowledging how prone HPM is to being stubborn.
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>>128725884
Something great ruined by black people and the UN
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>>128725917
Are you meming right now lad? I can't tell. Canada does have 5 independent substrates prior to confederation, Rupert's land, Newfoundland, the Maritime union, Colombia and Quebec.

>>128725913
Historical accuracy is a meaningful argument.
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>>128725991
Fuck off Rob
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>>128726106
those are tags with cores owned by the UK, not independent states on the map day 1. And I was referring to Upper and Lower Canada, Prince Edward Island, New Brunswick and Nova Scotia, the Maritime union is an ahistorical abstraction that shouldn't exist if you want to go to that level of detail.
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>>128725248
I did...this. I think I'm the only person here to ever post about Khodynt.

It's fucking impossible with new Ming now though
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>>128725991
I have no problem with HPM personally (apart from that he is too stubborn for his own good) but the fact that saying anything against the party line gets you violently attacked by a mob of obsessive fans has really made /gsg/ a worse place.
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>>128725991
I believe you just made a bullshit claim that he said he wouldn't integrate anything and made excuse after excuse to not present proof
Calling anyone HPMIDF shows you are just here to create some drama

>HPM said X
>Prove it
>I can't, there's million of posts
>Search his trio
>I can't, there's no archive
>Here's the archive
>JUST BELIEVE ME OK? WHY WOULD I LIE FUCK OFF HPMIDF
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>>128726106
Eh, sounds too autistic even for me.

I'll only make it if somebody else makes the flags, I don't know anything about any of those Austrian shitters
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>>128726308
I'm not the guy you're arguing with but he's publicly said that if it comes to integrating another modder's work or doing it his way he'd rather do it his way, when asked if he'd integrate RDS.
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>>128726306
Asking for proof that someone said something is now considered " gets you violently attacked by a mob of obsessive fans"
Jesus christ drama queen
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Hot damn HPMIDF is out in full force tonight. Reddit must be down.
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Ladies and gentlemen, does anyone remember the days when Khazaria would cease to exist 15 years into the game? I sure do.

Khazaria isn't the only Khazarian nation by the way, they took over Serbia, Khiva, Armenia and even formed a friendly merchant republic in Nikopolis which has tried 3 times to invade Byzantium and fail.

Meanwhile my quaint little ethiopian jewish kingdom flourishes after repelling two invasions from the Miski sultanate which is now imploding after their caliph of 62 years died.

Rate my autism please.
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>>128726423
Which is different from "he specifically said he wouldn't integrate this mod because he's a massive fucking faggot.", and you can add to that he consistently integrated good work before.

By the way he said that he wouldn't integrate RDS because he has his own system, because RDS got some shit wrong and because he would rather leave people choose how their map looks
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>>128726429
It's true though and happens all too often. I don't understand the mentality of people who feel they have an obligation to protect an anonymous modder on the internet who they've never even met.
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>>128726594
It's true that asking for proof of a claim is being violently attacked?
Are you a SJW?
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>>128726278
Yes, that's how it would be for Australia. Currently the entire bottom right of the map lacks any flavour whatsoever, where Canada has all that shit going on.
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>>128726530
Oh and heres the full extent to grosskhazariums
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>>128726423
WHERE'S YOUR SOURCE? WHERE'S YOUR FUCKING SOURCE HE SAID THAT YOU FUCKING CRETIN? FUCK OFF HPM IS FUCKING GOD!!!!!!!!!
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>>128726283
man if you're really that bored, just fucking do something else.

there's more ways than gs to autism your way to glory.

just look at these faggots
>>128723949
>>128723371
>>128722915
>>128722204
that could be you, senpai
that takes like no effort
and it's EXACTLY what you want
so find some GS you want to do or just fucking make some content.

also what is least shit flag
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>>128726585
>By the way he said that he wouldn't integrate RDS because he has his own system, because RDS got some shit wrong and because he would rather leave people choose how their map looks

Provide proof for this statement.
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>>128726594
Maybe they just feel the need to protect something they love, it's basic human instinct
What I don't understand is why people feel they have an obligation to attack someone they never met because he does a mod they don't need to play, to the point of pretending to be him, faking posts and shit
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>>128726726
I just think having them as substates like the minimod does is silly, having cores and events to represent federation sure (though annoying if you just want to play a released Australia game), but if there's one thing HPM doesn't need its more useless puppet states with >50k pops. Canada has all that shit going on but until 1867 and federation its all just British colonies, the flavour happens under the hood so to speak.
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>>128726885
Provide proof people feel the need to defend HPM.
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>>128726308
>Calling anyone HPMIDF shows you are just here to create some drama
>>128726501
>>128726840
>>128726882
>>128727002
Like clockwork

It was just an attempt to stir drama
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Dutch game in victoria 2, already reclaimed Belgium, as well as seized the british Malay colonies in the war. Everything may have gone better than expected. I have a ton of infamy though, should I just be slow burning infamy while I wait and building up industry taking the indonesia imperialism events?
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>>128726372
The territories current flags could serve as their monarchy flags, wouldn't be hard to concoct rep, fascist and com flags.

>>128726974
Yeah but Canada gets the VIP treatment so why shouldn't Australia?
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>>128726885
>Maybe they just feel the need to protect something they love
>something they love

kek. if you love HPM, then that explains more than enough. I hope your life improves so that you no longer have to compete for the heart of an anonymous modder on the internet.
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>>128727103
Where's your proof it was said to stir drama?
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>>128727103
>demand someone show proof that HPM said something
>panic when asked to do the same thing

Like clockwork. HPM drones are all bark and no bite.
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>>128727179
I'm talking about the mod, not the modder
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>>128727103
Damn HPM is mad
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>>128726885
>attack
now who is the drama queen?
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>>128726372
>>128726974
>>128727159
Here's some proof on the status of the Australian states.

>Between 1855 and 1890, the six colonies individually gained responsible government, managing most of their own affairs while remaining part of the British Empire.[17] The Colonial Office in London retained control of some matters, notably foreign affairs,[18] defence,[19] and international shipping. New Zealand achieved responsible government in 1853, New South Wales and Victoria in 1855, Tasmania in 1856, Queensland in 1859 (separated from New South Wales in that year with self-government from the beginning) and Western Australia in 1890. These arrangements were confirmed by the Colonial Laws Validity Act 1865.

>The Colonial Laws Validity Act 1865 was a British Act of Parliament to define the relationship between local ("colonial") and British ("imperial") legislation. It confirmed that colonial legislation was to have full effect within the colony, limited only to the extent that it was not in contradiction with ("repugnant to") any Imperial Act which extended to that colony. The Act had the effect of clarifying and strengthening the position of colonial legislatures, while at the same time restating their ultimate subordination to the British Parliament.

>Until the passage of the Act, a number of colonial statutes had been struck down by local judges on the grounds of repugnancy to English laws (whether or not those English laws had been intended by Parliament to be effective in the colony). This had been a particular problem for the government in South Australia, where Justice Benjamin Boothby had struck down local statutes on numerous occasions in the colony's Supreme Court.

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonial_Laws_Validity_Act_1865

I believe on the dates provided the states should gain independence as either substrates or puppets of Britain.
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>>128726882
Sure
5 minutes in the archive

>>128353603
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>>128727350
>implying that's any better

Seriously man, maybe you should just chill out away from /gsg/ for a while. There is more to life than an average mod for a 5 year old game. Give your parents a call or play some frisby maybe, you know?
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>>128727709
Well man it's not like I can do all that and still love a mod or a game

Why don't you just stop worrying some random stranger on the internet likes something? Why does that bother you that much?
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>>128727631
So are we actually going to discuss this lads or keep shitposting about nothing? I really want to see Australia fleshed out in Vicky.
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>>128727850
It doesn't particularly bother me but when someone feels so strongly about a video game mod that they say they "love" it and see the mod creator as a member of their own family, you'd be a fool not to expect some confused reactions to that. It's a very strange thing to consider a mod or video game as an object of affection.

I hope things get better for you. Seriously, man.
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>>128728263
>it and see the mod creator as a member of their own family
Well shit, do tell me when someone says that then

If you can't love a good mod or a good game, then I suggest you are in the wrong place, Most people who play video games are very passionate about their hobby, which is why things can lead to big shitstorms easily

What a sad life you must live when you are incapable of loving the hobby, the games and the mods you are here to discuss
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>>128727631
That's fair, but I still say it's silly, It's on the same scale as giving Prince Edward Island independence as a puppet when it got responsible government in 1849, the nation is just so underpopulated and in all fairness irrelevant, just like Canada that there's no point representing it until its actually a united nation. Some abstractions are necessary especially with something as complicated as British relations to the commonwealth. That's just my opinion though, it's not like a minimod is being forced on me and if someone wants to make it good for them.

South Africa doesn't appear until the union.
Canada doesn't appear till Confederation.
Why should Australia be special?
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>>128706717
Very close, my friend. Very close.
This is best map.
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>>128727631
Responsible government is a poor metric for independence, like that other anon said the individual Canadian colonies all got it early on, Cape Colony and the other parts of South Africa got it long before the Boer War, it's just another part of the march to independence not the beginning of it.
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>>128728434
What you are doing and what you are feeling isn't healthy. There is nothing wrong with having a hobby and being passionate about it. Some people are passionate about film. Then you have people who become obsessive fans of certain films and actors, who then become shut-ins and possible stalkers. When you take it too far, a hobby turns into an obsession.

This is what you are doing with HPM. Please, think of your own health.
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>>128728621
>portugese galicia
NO
NOOOOOOOOOOOO
THAT'S IT
I CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE
IM DONE
IM FUCKING DONE WITH THESE GODDAMN SHITTY ASS MAPS
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>>128728478
Well I feel it should be modelled for two reasons:

1. Historical accuracy

2. More flavour for the region.

Currently nothing happens in Australia until three quartets of the way through the game, it is literally just a big red blob. This does nothing to represent the actual story of the region.

Furthermore, I would support Prince Edward Island being given substrate status in 1849 if it wasn't for it being so irrelevant, but Australia is a lot more relevant than a tiny island in Canada, currently Australia has literally no flavour whatsoever where as every other country, including Argentina is accurately represented, why does the game model the Argentine confederation but not the Australian states?
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>>128728826
Say another bad thing about HPM and you'll be hanging from the gutters.

HPM guy is one of the greatest men of the 21st century and you people don't give him the reverence he deserves
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>>128728621
other than königsberg and maybe alsace-lorraine this is basically 10/10
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>>128728826
No anon, it's perfectly healthy. Loving your hobby and loving the things that integrate it are all parts of normal, functional human beings. Defending what you love is also a part of it, though it seems you consider calling out slander as "attacking" someone, which is pretty funny

What isn't healthy is obsessing what other people like anon. To the point of attacking them and what they like, to fake shit to attack, ironically shitposting. That kind of obsessive behavior, being so bothered someone likes what you don't like, that's something you should worry about
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>>128728976
Not even that guy but this says enough.
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>>128728910
>spanish galicia
lmaoing at your life
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>>128728765
It's really not though, the only aspects Britain kept control of were foreign affairs and defence, this is the perfect example of a satellite.

And I've discussed the Cape Colony's responsible government with him, he said he would do it but it's fuck British colonisation in the region, it's the same reason Columbia doesn't get early responsible government, for the colonisation of Canada and such.
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>>128728976
hello rob
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>>128728941
>every other country,
That's a lie though, there are tons of countries why minimal to no flavor at all
Only the GPs have a sizeable amount

>>128729123
Failure to grasp sarcasm, irony or ironic shitposting is a good sign of autism
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>>128728910
t. butthurt spaniard
>>128728621
Simply beautiful
Galicians are true Portuguese brethren
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>>128729342
>>128729138
>>128728910
>>128728621
Fuck Spain desu
spanish is such a disgusting language
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>>128729229
Yeah maybe shitholes like Ecuador but my point is a country as important as Australia deserves more.
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>>128728941
I agree the region desperately needs flavour, I'd especially like to see potential for New Zealand and Fiji to join federation. I just think seeing Western Australia as its own country on the pop with 10k pops is entirely a step too far, I'm also against the Kurdish minors though so whatever.
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>>128729475
>Australia
>Important
>19th century australia
>important
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>>128729119
Like I already said, being passionate about your hobby is fine but being as obsessive as you are is slightly concerning.

>calling out slander

This is exactly the sort of stuff I'm talking about. You said before that you loved the mod, now you are backtracking by saying that you feel bound by your duty to defend the honour of the modder, as if he's incapable of defending himself.

Also
>attacking
You keep misusing that word. Criticising someone is not attacking. This further proves my point that your obsession with HPM is dangerously unhealthy. You view anything less than adoration as slander and a conspiracy to destroy the mod. Please, consider having a mental health check if you have the chance.
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>>128729475
>as important as Australia
>did literally nothing on its own in the game's timeframe
>literally
>nothing
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>>128729423
This, shit's so awful poets and musicians used Portuguese for their works instead.
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>>128728621
Uh, excuse me friend, but where's Yugoslavia?
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>>128729496
The choices are simulate it all, with Western Australia included or simulate none of it as it is currently until federation.

>>128729564
Ask yourself whether it's more important than shitty Kurdish minors.
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>>128729592
Nah, obsession is when you start caring other people like what you don't like
That someone loves something

Obsession is pretending to be someone, shitposting and stirring drama about someone you don't like

>you are backtracking by saying that you feel bound by your duty to defend the honour of the modder,
Good thing no one said anything of the sort

Seeing as you think that calling out slander is some horrible thing, and seeing as the rest of your post is nothing but a big strawman, this discussion becomes rather pointless

Now anon, please, check that obsession you have with everything HPM related
When you start making up shit to criticize people who love a mod, well, there's something fucked up with you
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>>128729771
I know, and that's why I say simulate none of it, or simulate it in a different way, the separate states are just too irrelevant on their own, especially considering how irrelevant a united Australia is in this game. Flavour is needed, more tiny substates that do nothing but get annexed by event to another country aren't.
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>>128729771
It's about as important as shitty kurdish minors rebelling against a GP

I bet kurds played a bigger role in the world than australians
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>>128730017
Kurds are playing a bigger role in the world today than Australians. The only thing Australians have done for the world is help in the First and Second Great Shitposting War
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>>128730017
t. Kiwi

>>128729949
Yeah, but Canada already has all their tags and cores so it would be a copy and paste job of Canada and it's a bit of a double standard to have it for one but not the other.
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>>128730157
That's not notable at all either, so australians did shit all to the world
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>>128728910
GALÍCIA É PORTUGAL
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>>128730170
They have their tags and cores but they don't get independence until confederation, this is what I've been saying all along. Flavour yes, tiny puppets no.
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>>128726797
nice khazariums
mine are doing kinda meh
they settled everywhere all over the balkans, georgia, and persia as three different religions
funny enough the jewish khazars in my game switched to sunni within 4 years
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>>128730248
>>128729423
>>128729138
PORTUGAL? MORE LIKE POORTUGAL
GALICIA IS SPANISH
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKKKKKKKKKKK
>>
Galicia is Galician
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>>128730324
I don't know what I'm playing then because in my games they do. Britain releases them all and then they get annexed into the confederation later on, that might be one of AMMguy's new changes but that's what happened in my last game, and it's what I want for Australia.
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>>128729879
>obsession is when you start caring other people like what you don't like

Is this even in English? Please, clarify what you meant by this.

>Obsession is pretending to be someone, shitposting and stirring drama about someone you don't like

Once again, you conflate "shitposting" and "stirring drama" with criticism. Let me make this clear to you: Criticism is not shitposting.

>calling out slander

More proof of what I said before. You consider criticism as slander for some reason. This is called being a drama queen. HPM is a big boy, I'm sure he can handle himself.

>When you start making up shit to criticize people who love a mod

Please point to proof of when I have done this. Or would that be damaging to your strawman?
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>>128730409
Stay mad, Juan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYadPT4EWaY
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http://poal.me/cb5xg4
http://poal.me/cb5xg4
http://poal.me/cb5xg4
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howdy german servants
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Germany is a meme
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>>128731305
>>128731207
>>128731041
>>128730667
>>128730949
Welp, I'm gonna go retire in the fuhrerbunker lads, the war against shitposters is lost
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>clerks will never be paid more than craftsmen
One. Job.
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>>128731426
What the fuck is a clerk anyway? And why do they contribute to literacy?

"Hey, I just got done from a hard day's clerkin', time to go read to orphans."
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>>128731615
keep on clerkin'
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>>128731615
It's almost as though someone working in administration might read a lot or, wait for it, contribute to the efficiency of pre-existing structures
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>>128731615
clerks don't give literacy retard what the fuck are you talking about
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>>128731759
Alright you niggers. One of you has to know something about this game.

Is this ship design any good?
It's basically a big cargo ship. 5 cargo holds, but with 20 engines that have .10 engine power (200 EP a piece) for maximum fuel consumption. The other design has 3 engines at .50 engine power (1000 EP a piece) and it would take a very large fuel tank (1,000,00 fuel)to get to the edge of the Solar System and back, not that I need it to shuttle stuff that far, but I think it's a good measurement.

Basically, far as I can tell, it uses a little more duranium to build, twice the mercassium (still low amount), and less galicite.
It's obviously larger, and if it were a ship with a single cargo hold then it would be massively bigger than the alternative.
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>>128731929
Wrong thread you fucking retard, you are looking for the 4X thread
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>>128731964
That autism in the image looks GS enough
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>>128731929
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>>128732020
No, it doesn't, it looks like an excel table
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>>128731863
t. idiot

>>128731837
But why would that improve the population's literacy? Clergy/intellectuals actively teach the population to read by educating them, that's their job, clerks just do work that requires being literate, they in no way teach other people to read.
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>>128731964
Ain't no 4x threads anymore casual.
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>>128732131
Not my problem
Go make one then or take it to /v/
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>>128732131
Make one.
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>>128732112
t. memer
clerks don't give literacy
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>>128732196
>>128732262
15 post threads aren't my thing.
I'd rather roll the dice here.
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>>128732336
You are on the wrong place wherever you like it or not
Fuck off
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>>128732327
But they literally do, lad..
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>>128732441
what kind of casual mod are you playing sempai?
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>>128732441
Prove it
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>>128732424
Aurora is more gs than Distant Worlds.
I'm not asking you in particular anyway so you can go back to blobbing for grorious easth othodoxshy because playing non-mainstream religions = playing cool.
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>>128731929
What the fuck is this shit, Lad? The only spreadsheet game i play is Rule the Waves, the finest 20th century naval warfare simulator ever made, second only to actually being an admiral, developed by NWS™, the premier 21st century wargame dev.
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>>128732618
How so?
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>>128732715
holy shit this looks amazing
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What happened to the Boer states in South Africa? Did HPM remove them?
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>>128732983
No, he didn't
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>>128732747
More autism.
More autism = more GS.
>>128732715
Got me there I guess. I hope the battles aren't simulated.
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>>128732983
they appear as events
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>>128732983
They didn't exist in 1836, there's events for them.
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>>128732983
>boer states
>1836
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>>128733054
Define "more autism"
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is the 7 years mod dead?
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>>128733106
>forgetting to turn off your fagcode
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>>128733223
>lel
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>>128733054
feast your eyes
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>>128733172
More things you have control over.
Min/maxing
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>>128733209
It was never truly alive
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>>128733330
Min maxin and more things you have control over doesn't make something a GS
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>>128733330
If that's the case, why isn't Aurora accepted?
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>>128733318
How do you make them go pew-pew?
Click your ship then click the enemy? Or is it click your ship and then you go in a menu with a dropdown list of enemies and distances and all that?
>>128733395
Sorry, I forgot the given "in your empire" part.
You control more shit in your empire.
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>>128733395
There is no such thing as grand strategy
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>>128733541
That doesn't make it GS either
Having to do tons of micro isn't GS stuff, it's wargame territory
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>>128733535
Steamgroup shitposted harder.
/gsg/ gave up and just let the OP picture be because mods just saw 1 thread being fucking retarded and creating 3 or 4 threads 200 posts early and got tired of the shit.
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>>128733618
Then what's GS, mate?
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>>128733758
Real time strategy games about historical eras with set scenarios, on a global scale, based on history with non symmetrical starts, and without X from 4x exploration. That is, maps are not completely randomized and the starts aren't symmetrical but based on historical parameters
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>>128733541
3 different modes:
pleb: you control every ship
patrician: you control the lead ship for each battlegroup
god: flagship only

you can assign groups of ships to other ships, with commands such as screen, scout, support, etc
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>>128733880
CK2 isn't on a global scale, and EU4 has not only randomized New World, but an option to have perfectly symmetrical starts on a randomized world.

Not to mention, if Stellaris is allowed to be posted (which it most definitely will), then Aurora and Distant Worlds have to be allowed to be posted too.
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>>128733880
But then you un-pause.
Wait, wait. You're right. I forgot that time the Aztecs invaded Europe and all that Austrian Finnish territory.
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>>128734074
Not, but it fills all the other attributes. Like the lack of exploration
EU4 DLC doesn't make the game not GS, same way that a fixed earth map in civ doesn't make it GS

Distant Worlds is allowed because it fill a lot of the requirements, even if it's arguably a 4X. If stellaris is on the middle too, it will be allowed
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>>128706717
>Turkey
>a part of anyone's ideal europe
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>>128734191
What about Aurora then? Just because it has 4X in it's name, doesn't mean it can't be multiple genres.

People really need to move past this retarded idea that a game is only one genre. Fallout is an FPS and an RPG. Total War is both an RTS and a TBS
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>>128734060
Hey, now that doesn't sound too terrible after all!
I thought it would be way more micro, and even possibly aiming the turrets manually by telling them what angle to fire at instead of just telling them to "Hit them!"
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>>128734335
Aurora doesn't fill any of the criteria. It's a classic 4X
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>>128734392
Um, have you played either Distant Worlds or Aurora? Aurora is basically the same game as Distant Worlds except with almost no graphics and more detail. Tell me what makes Aurora less of a gs than Distant Worlds.
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>>128734543
It's turn based
At least DW has a story (timeline) and it's real time
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>>128731929
So I think I'll go with this then...
I only have 2xxK fuel on Earth and saving fuel on cargo ships sounds like a good idea. Besides, that's still double the speed of the ones I have now.
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Is the most recent version of HPM for the meme beta version of Vicky 2 or the actual version?
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>>128734895
There one for each one of them
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Is there any advantage to keeping Napoleon III out of power in HPM?
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>>128734645
I mean, Aurora gives background context to the setting, which is essentially the same thing, considering the minute you unpause in any gs it becomes ahistorical.

The turn based thing is not really something I agree with. The system Aurora uses is very different from every other traditional turn based game, and is way closer to a gs than, say, GalCiv.
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>>128735034
No, it isn't. They have a storyline - a fictitious history. No, "turn ahistorical" isn't an excuse

No one gives a fuck. It's turn based and it's 4X. Keep it in the 4x thread
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>>128734982
no
it decreases relations with your neighbors but besides that no
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>>128735034
>Aurora gives background context to the setting
what?
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>>128735137
Honestly, it doesn't even matter. Aurora appeals way more to a /gsg/ audience than Distant Worlds, and the 4x thread is dead.

>>128735312
It's limited, but there.
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>>128735380
No, it doesn't. if it did, it would be in the OP like DW
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>>128735459
I was in the OP, but then it got replaced by EU: Rome, a game which I haven't seen on /gsg/ in more than a year, because the autist who designed the infopic gave in to the shitposting by the steamgruppe
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>>128735459
It was in the OP until people like you decided to voice negative opinions louder than the very few people who play it because it feels good to tell people they're wrong, especially when you think everyone agrees with you because of something like the OP image.
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>>128735637
>>128735684
This is /pgg/ Paradox Games General

We tolerate DW because it's somewhat similar to the paradox style but Aurora is not allowed and will never be allowed.

P.S. Please buy Stellaris
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>>128735684
>negatve opinions
Facts are not negative
Deal with it and go to the 4x general
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When does France get a Jingoist party in HPM?
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>>128736000
go to be johan
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Making Indian food tomorrow. Currying all the things. Making kebab. Enjoying my weekend off.

The only thing I would like to ask gsg is which muslim to play as to conquer India with? I don't mind starting at count level but if I do that, I would prefer 1066 or earlier so the game doesn't slow down too much.

God bless
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>>128736090
About same time they get in NNM
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Guys,when the scramble for africa event starts at early 1880, do minor nations/secondary powers get to gets a infamy free cb against african states in HPM? Was playing as Serbia but did not get postive effects from that event...
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>>128735304
Can I remove him from power (that is, cease to be the French Empire) without losing Alsace-Lorraine?
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>>128736402
Why would you remove him from power? The relations loss is a one time thing. There's no negative to having him on the throne after that
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>>128736151
Rum
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>>128736373

1. be capital europe

2. be relevant

3. get congress of berlin event (you must get invited at the time it fires)
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What's the practical difference between Satellites and Dominions in Victoria 2?
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>>128736494
So only great powers in europe then? oh well..
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>>128736527

Dominions are colonial they function the same
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Remember to list /4xgen/ as our vassal next thread in the OP
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>>128736071
You're good at arguing.
I've been thoroughly refuted.
Your posts have proven that Aurora is not a GS by simply saying it isn't. I wish I thought of that.
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Lads what's going on with the new patch
when I run the game it gives me a bunch of
>replacement failed for [some hex value]
Is there a way to fix this?
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How do I HoI3 or should I not bother and just wait for Hearts of Europa Universalis 4 to come out?
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>>128736831
what parts do you ahve issue with
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>>128737037
The parts where I do anything other than play the USA and not help anyone and then try and invade Norway with super ultra giga tanks and fail.
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>>128737037
i don't know how to build armies, i mean iget OOB andshit but how the fuck am i supposed to stack them? Just satck HQs and attach 5 units to each one and then repeat the same thing with army groups etc? Also what's the best comp?
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>>128737140
well lad that isnt much for to go off
retard checklist:
production
neutrality and threat
combat frontage
reinforce chance
hard and soft attack
hardness and softness
tech
combined arms bonus
combat modifiers
terrain modifiers
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>>128737140
Watch an LP.
There's a guy who takes Albania and conquers the world but he has more resonable nations that you can actually learn stuff from, like Brazil.
So google "HOI3 Brazil World Conquest" and buckle up. Don't worry, you'll see him do something enough that you'll get a hold of it. Of course English isn't his first language. This is an HOI LPer we're talking about.
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>>128737332
you dont even *need* the OOB. its probably my least fabourite part of hoi3 just because it is tedious and the AI is so bad at it

Yes, you want to minimize the amount of unnecesary HQs to maximize the leader effect so keep them all at 5 when possible

there is a lot of stuff written about division composition

if you are more IC rich and less manpower rich you want less ic intensive units, for example 3x inf 1art vs 4inf

generally the bulk of your army will be infantry with a support division tailored to your needs

then you have units that pack a lot of punch into a small amount of frontage that open up a hole (lots of support brigades)

then you have fast units that exploit those holes and encircle enemies
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>>128736468

i don't normally play regional players but i like this idea because of byz/crusader worries and the task of actually getting there. thanks anon
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what admin efficiency does?
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>>128737897
>>eu4wiki
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if you have any more hoi questions you better hurry up cause im about to fall alseep
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>>128738271
I'm talking abou Vicky 2
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>>128737897
controls pop promotion speed, factory and infrastructure construction cost, and military unit cost. I think I forgot one.
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>>128737897
>Bureaucrats represent the administrators of a country. Their main purpose is to increase the administrative efficiency of the state they're in, and the country as a whole. Administrative efficiency on the state level increases the rate of POP promotion and demotion. On the national level it affects the amount of goods the population requires, doubling it at 0%, with normal needs at 100%. It also affects the amount earned from tariffs and the crime fighting efficiency of the nation. They are paid directly from the administrative spending of the nation, so if spending is low they will be unable to meet their needs and demote, while if spending is high promotion to the POP-type will be increased. They are also necessary to turn a colony into a state.
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>>128738483
>>128738515
thanks
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>>128738271
its been down for hours senpai
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What do you use for naval comp in HOI3? Light cruisers are the obvious choice for screens as they have better range and attack (and HP) than destroyers. For capital ships, carriers are obviously the most versatile but you can only put 3 carriers in a stack before your CAGs are taking such high penalties that they fight less effectively than if you only had 2 carriers. Do you split between carriers and something else?
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>>128737897
Max it for national admin efficiency, state doesn't matter. You'll get literacy faster that way before you start encouraging clergymen.
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>>128739010
planes are for bitch niggas battlecruisers heavy cruisers and light cruisers only
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>>128737770
NP brudda
Post progress now and then
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>>128737560
Would you recommend anyone? The only lets players for these sorts of games are arumba (who doesn't play hearts of memes) and quill18 (who is canadian) both of which present problems
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crQ4llWDl0Q
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>>128739483
Here, mate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQrTOdVmMN8
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>>128739917
>dumb commiefrog poster
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>>128739917
nice meme
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>The Polar Bear Purchase will now turn all pops in iceland, greenland & jan mayen into polar bears.
>Added some revolutionary polarbear artwork.
Grosspolarbeariums when?
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Post guilty pleasures
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>>128740760
SCRUMP SCRUMP SCRUMP SCRUMP SCRUMP SCRUMP SCRUMP SCRUMP
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>>128740760
>"hungarian" "culture"
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How should I be composing my armies in Vicky2?
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>>128741136
all planes
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>>128741136
2 guard, 2 art, 1 tank, 1 engi, 10 planes, 5 hussar, 2 irregular
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>>128742125
>>128741136
use only 3 hussar and replace with 2 dragoon
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I'm guessing Lithuania is supposed to be weak as fuck in terms of military strength in EU4? Everyone is at 6-7 and I just got to 4.
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>>128741727
>>128742125
I don't have planes yet
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>>128743180
If you don't have planes just fill the rest with cuirassiers until you get planes
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What about the classic 4inf/4art/1eng/1hus build?
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>>128705917
>be me
>be Venetian merchant republic
>Take over world with the power of money because fuck feudalism
Feels good to be a merchant.
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>>128743625
broken with an hpm release some time ago
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How to play Qing without wanting to kill yourself?
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If I want to play a Norse -> Norman -> English CK2 game, who should I start as?
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Do you use infamy cheats in Vicky II?
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>>128744534
I use infamy cheats whenever I play any paradox game

I dont give a shit, its more fun that way.
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>>128744458
william the bastard
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r8 my Persian Gulf
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>>128720624
"""""Balancing"""""
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>>128740760
>He didn't make Venice Austrian
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I'm thinkig about doing a Scotland playtrough in Vic2 HPM.
Are they just a smaller UK?
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>>128736619
You need to have port provinces. Also I think SPs get it too.
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>>128746174
Unless you have the cultures minimod they are british culture as well.
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>>128747369
sounds good.
Do they have any /wewuz/ goals like the spanish or the Portoguise?
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>>128747407
Conquer Panama
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>>128745774
Now that's a bit too far
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>>128747582
Anything besides that?
Because that sounds easy as Hell.
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Any reason to not use the latest beta patch for Victoria 2?
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>>128744453
Keep isolationism, or switch to Taiping when the event occurs.
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>>128744534
Yes.
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>thinking about finally playing as an independent cossack nation made from a cossack rebelion
>they are a fucking nomadic fucking horde
I'm finally done with Paradox bullshit, I could've just went with them going "lol who cares", but they literally named an expansion Cossacks and they haven't even bothered to open a single book or at least a wikipedia about the way cossack society was structured or who the fuck they were in reality. Like the whole ithinking process was just "who cares about fucking cossacks or realism, just make them mongoloid horsefuckers because we just made this horde mechanic and forget about it". Like they already made long before that a Zaporozhian Host which was an eastern tribal democracy, which was kinda closer-ish to reality, compared to a fucking nomadic horde, what went wrong in there brain that they decided to go with with this decision.
I may be a bit of a cossackboo, but this is just fucking ridiculous.
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>>128748372
>I may be a bit of a cossackboo
You people exist?
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>>128748372
>I may be a bit of a cossackboo
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>>128748424
The finest form of existence.
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>>128748612
How does this make you feel ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decossackization
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Why did I get no event for Belgian Congo in HPM?
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>>128748832
>Yugoslavia
Never fails to warm my cold dead heart
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>>128748795
Less mad than paracucks making them a nomadic horde.
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>>128748921
not an answer for my question desu
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>>128749059
I'm not sure famalam, ask HPM
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>>128748372
>named the expansion Conclave
>the pope is not even mentioned besides probably being mad when you have full womyn's rights
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>>128748921
>yugoslavia
disguisting
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>>128749861
You are incorrect
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>>128749510
>Common Sense
>name has nothing to do with content at all
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>>128748832
Are you a SP? Because that's one of the requirements.
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>>128750493
is it out?
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>>128747658
This is late, but conquer Norway
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>>128734060
Share? 2poor.
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>>128750493
Shit I was a GP at the moment, and lost it afterwards
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>>128750587
>>128750715
It's not even released, anyway you need to be a SP and have no african colonies
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>>128732715
>>128733318
Pls upload Rule the Waves. I need this game, lads. I promise I'll buy it afterwards, I just can't afford to spend $35 without knowing how good the game is.
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>>128751060
>I promise I'll buy it afterwards
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>>128751414
>he doesn't support indie developers making good games
Shaking my head at you, Consty.
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>>128751479
>pls give money for this overpriced shit game, I'm not a shill, I promise g-guys
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>>128720624
Infamy (called badboy) was already in the original game and it worked fine. You could go as high as you wished, but keeping it in check meant that weak dukes would swear fealty to you, so it was perfectly possible to form huge realm without firing a single arrow.
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>>128751693
That's exactly why I want to pirate and assess if it's good first. I don't want to spend 35 bucks on a cat in a bag.
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>>128752025
>Czeska
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I know thats not wgg but the guys over there really hate pirating and I'm sure a lot of gsg also plays wargames
Could anybody upload combat missions?
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>>128752116
>really hate pirating
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>>128706359

I would only accept if it there was no way for euro / asia to interact with eachother
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>>128752563
B-but the Romans.
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Guys why does my big square flag mod crash in HPM?
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>>128706078
arent they adding womens rights dlc?
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unhpm add this http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Prussia
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I have 10 techs in Army, 5 techs in Navy and Corporative industrialism
I already got all techs I want in Commerce, Culture and Industry (only missing the last railroads, opens in 7 years)
It's better to me if I get the traditional academia again, right?
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>>128752654
>B-but the Romans
also didn't make any contact
chinks saw the roman empire as some kind of weird glorious anti-china on the opposite side of the world they called da qin
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Roman_relations
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Someone make a montenegro flag with uncle bens on it
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>>128753285
Depends, I like military industrial complex for late game.
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>>128753376
Uncle Benis? :DD
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>>128753376
Uncle Ben's? More like uncle Benis :DDDDDDDDD
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>>128753492 me

>>128753512
We thinks alike. :DD
Let's fugg :DD
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>>128753646
No danks, I'm not gay :DDDD
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Should I take Libya from them?
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>>128753843
It's da current year, you homopoopic peice of shit :DD

smug my dick :DDD
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>>128753860
No, take Palestine from them. Libia is more than one region anyway.
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>>128745518
use the political map you dickmunching faggot
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>>128753970
Already took that and Transjorden
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>>128753936
But lad, current year was a year ago, it's 2016 now.
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>>128754065
https://youtu.be/Dse2MFeo3Xk?t=46

f-fugg :DD
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>>128754047
Take Syria and Iraq then. Also, show you grossgermanium.
>>128754141
RIP in piss, sweet prince.
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Instead of a Scotland playtrough I decided to try out the Maritime Union.
And holy shit!
Look at these RGOs in one region!
This is going to be fun!
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>>128754208
I think I'll take Syria and Lebanon, It'll line up neater with what I already have.

I'll post my map once I take the regions
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>>128754516
Post your mainland now at least.
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>>128754394
Sawmills and canned food are unprofitable as fuck until 1890 or so when people get larger armies and navies. I guess the RGOs are good for liquor factories.
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>>128754567
I hate how screenshots save as bmp
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>>128755030
Also sawmills start getting crazy cash after 1900 since some of the new factories use tons of wood. Just forgot which one, I think airplanes or something.
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>>128755105
>tfw no good german borders without blobbing into the czechs
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>>128755105
God damn, why does Austrian/GroBgerman Trent does have to look so shit? I always changeowner it back to Italy. And 2bh you should just put that Czechoslovakia out of it's misery, Bohemia to you and Slovakia to Hungary.
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>>128755323
Are those your only complaints? I can changeowner Trent to Italy after I fight the turks (and them, they're allies), and I'll probably hold of of Czechoslovakia until the turn of the century
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>>128755105
>those army compositions
>building cuirassiers in 1986
>Koniglich Preußische Marine
Come on, lad.
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>>128755105
Why is your military ranked so low? Also why didn't you take more of the middle east from the Ottos?
You still need to cuck the Brits out of Egypt.
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>>128755105
>that Hungary
Perfect,just give it Uzhorord and it's perfect!
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>>128755486
Yeah, pretty much.But how did you manage to ally Italy if you own their cores? And are you the Anon that wanted to do the Germanic Confederation borders by any chance?
>>128755552
I think Zentrumpartei is anti-military.
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Why is post 1900 combat in vicky 2 so frustrating, I'm sure 70 thousand africans attacking the french in the Sahara don't all die in 15 days.
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>Arumba plays Aurora
>Makes Bernie Sanders Governor of Earth

100% reddit cuck
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>>128755552
Because building armies and navies is tedious. I'm working on it.
>>128755486
No, the Ottomans and Itally are allies. Every great power save the UK, US, and Japan hate me.
>>128755551
How would you do your armies?
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>>128755727
The French probably had the maxim and the africans had it not.
>>128755737
>making murica homebase
Boring as fuck
Unless you're telling me that Earth was Russian or something and Bernie was governor?
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>>128755737
>100% reddit cuck

Worse he's a paradox cuck
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>>128755764
4INF 4ART 1HUS 1ENG as fast reaction and rebel suppression forces.
4ART 1HUS 1ENG to fill with mobilized infantry while fighting big wars.
After discovering tanks replace engineers with them and do the same with hussars after discovering planes. You could also replace artillery with planes by the endgame if you have enough money.
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>>128755764
My army composition about that date is
10 INF/GUA, 5 ART, 3 ENG, 3 HUS
Even though I think cuirassiers have better stats than infantry and guards I don't think they get the gas attack bonus(correct me if I'm wrong)
>>128755851
I am the africans, I am westernized and have better army tech then them. I am just frustrated because that is not how combat worked at all.
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>>128756019
>10 INF/GUA, 5 ART, 3 ENG, 3 HUS
That's the worst army composition I've seen baring maybe the meme "all guards' answers. Maybe that's why you're losing to France.
>cuirassiers have better stats than infantry and guards
Front line stats literally don't matter, artillery and planes are the only ones doing any meaningful damage.
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>>128755975
>>128756019
How would I go about re-aranging my armies?

Current comp is 12inf 4cui 2art 2eng
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>>128756171
I guess you're the guy that is suggesting this comp>>128755975 can you explain why it's better.
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>>128756231
Disband the cuirassiers, the soldiers return to the POP pool. The split that stack into 2 and add ART and HUS until you have enough. You'l be left with a little more INF so use that for new stacks. Come on, lad, do some thinking yourself, it's fun.
>>128756287
Too big of a front line for no reason at all, too many engineers (who suck at combat compared to ART). Wasting recon with too high HUS to INF ratio. Wasting soldier POPs on infantry that you should just mobilize.
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>Latest commit 16082a9 on Oct 19, 2015

>that feel when
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>>128756595
I don't have pops to mobilize, I had maybe 24 brigades max. Which is a sad amount. If I don't have 3 HUS and 3 ENG my recon and siege aren't 100 percent.
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>>128756019
>>128756595
>>128756171
And while on the topic of composition, how should I go about it for navies?
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>>128756771
Spam the biggest ship you have.
Usually it's dreadnoughts
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>>128756771
Take the ship with the highest attack you can build (so no Monitors, Manowars are also kinda shit) and build a shit ton of them.
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>>128756771
>naval battles
>that important
Get a few dreadnoughts or whatever is the late tech battle ship. I've had succes with mostly spamming ironlads, which is also good for muh colonial points
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>>128756771
What's your tech level?
Looking at your naval max it looks like shit.
Early one just a ton of frigates and a few men of war. The AI usually neglects their naval tech so later in the game you can dominate it(at least that's my experience, before going to war always check their tech level) Honestly just cruisers and ironclads are enough. Maybe get a dreadnought or a few battleships if you want to be cheeky.
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>>128756771
100% ironclads
then sink britain's entire wooden fleet
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>>128752654

The romans can suck my dick.

t. celt
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ironlads
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>>128757143
I have every ship except Dreadnaughts.

I think I know what I'm doing now, going to follow >>128755975's example.
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>>128754141
>RIP Bernie Sanders
>We will remember you most for your chicken
>HELLO
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