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Miss murder edition
>What the fuck is this shit?
Dirty Bomb's a free to play FPS and successor to games like Enemy Territory or Brink

>Is it p2w?
No. The merc unlock system is relatively merciful and as long as you're not a compulsive gambler, you can amass credits pretty quick.
There are also loadout cards with different rarity, but those aren't going to make you less shit at the game, and everything above bronze is purely cosmetic
You can easily craft them by trading up the dozens of crap lead cards you get

>How the loadout system works:
http://stealth-nerf.com/dirty-bomb-the-loadout-system-explained/

>Loadout/weapon/augment charts
http://forums.dirtybomb.nexon.net/discussion/12972/the-db-genome-project-everything-there-is-to-know-about-loadouts

>Recommended loadouts (Updated but still a WIP - Not quite finished, give your feedback)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/etdws8bydkfiw1a/dbgloadoutguide2.0.png?dl=0

>How do I get this game?
http://store.steampowered.com/app/333930/

>Wiki:
http://dirtybomb.gamepedia.com

>Join our steam group and play with us:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vgdb

>Wanna play competitive?
http://dbn.gg/

>Tweaks and HUD customization
http://pastebin.com/iHnY6YWe

>Sick6's FPS config:
https://www.sendspace.com/file/ps51vb

>Singleplayer map practice and testing commands
http://pastebin.com/ePz8VnJd

>Basics:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LJUmnLDpDw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lGdwdnyWB0

>Advanced:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CsMPX6800Y

>Aim/reflex training:
http://aim400kg.com/

>Discord:
https://discord.gg/0gP8aNVcec7ggHEl

>Teamspeak:
ts.dbn.gg
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First for remove ban Killerbee
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2nd4dedgam
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>>128694249
remove his ban or ban him? I vote ban him
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Would Turtle even be useful?
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>>128695130
Memesley said he will be useful.
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>>128695130
Only if he's an engi with a rifle
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>>128695130
If that "shield@250helf" thing stays true, then no. (I'm voting for the thing being fucking bulletproof, destructible only by explosives)

He'll have an edge in being the only engie with an AR tho.
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Was Thunder ever good? Will they buff him?
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Sparks is cute.
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>>128695130
If they gave him assault rifles, yes, but they won't I'm guessing. He will be another SMG merc. My guess, Blishlock, another SMG and the Hollunds.

His barrier will be good on Bridge, Terminal and Underground. Okay on Trainyard and Chapel. Bad on Dome.

How resilient the shield is also depends on cooldown. If it has like 250 health and a 20+ second cool down it will be shit.
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>>128696068
Internal footage has shown him with the BR-16, plus there is no default BR merc yet.

Also what if he got 2 of the things, with say 400-500 HP and 20sec cooldown?
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>>128695781
Thunder was never good. SD will never buff him because their stupid and dont even play their own game once and a while.
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>>128696240
He was fun to play in the first week though.
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>>128696232
They said he wouldn't have that gun. It was when they were doing some sort of sound update, they showed Turtle with the BR-16 and then said he wouldn't have it.
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Fletcher is a highly skilled merc
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>>128696375
Flashing your self was the only annoying thing. All they had to do was just make him resistant to his own concs, wouldn't even be OP because of how big a fucking target he is and easy it is to see when conced.
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Friendly reminder to type setclantag /dbg/ in console!~ :3
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>>128696931
Well the fact that you could be flashed all the way across Chapel was also kinda annoying, but they didn't have to reduce it so much. Old conc back and buffs to his lmg + Timik rework to make it something other than an M4 clone could make him somewhat viable.
>>128696456
No reason to believe them though.
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Dirty Bomb memes
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>>128698040
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Ass tier list
Nader=Aura>Rhino>proxie>fragger>pancakes>kira
Who has the best ass
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>>128698404
Nader has the best ass because she's so buff, other girls are so tiny that they can't develop a big butt but rather a tight one, like aura's.
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>>128698040
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>>128698404
Rhino's a fine piece of ass, but Aura gets extra points for being a butt slut. Aura such a butt slut, you could ram an EV into her and it wouldn't be enough to satisfy her.
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>>128700080
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lightning reminds me of a cuck
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FUCKIN RELEASE THE NEW MERC ALREADY. FUCKING SHITTY ASS DEVS IM BORED AS FUCK AND THUNDER WAS A FUCKING MESS THAT YOU REFUSE TO FIX.
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i love anime and kira haha
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>>128704859
Yay!:3
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>>128696456
they didn't say he wouldn't have that gun, they said he just happened to use turtle as the platform to test the gun on and I doubt the sound guy would willingly go through the extra effort of having to spawn the gun on him, and like the other anon said, BR-16 is currently the only gun alongside Aimee's PDP that none of the mercs have by default
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DAILY REMINDER THAT DIRTY BOMB IS SAVED
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ded thred
ded bomb
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>>128707248
THANK JEBUS NOW
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>Try vanilla Arty once at launch.
>Didn't like it.
>Arty in free rotation now.
>Dat quick artillery strike cool down
>can call in two artillery strikes back to back
>Only non vanilla card is got has a lead Dreis.
>Discover it's the shizzle my nizzle fo rizzle tbhfam

So what's the difference between kira and Arty?
Her pillar lasts longer and can be controlled right? Is that why she's so expensive? Is her cooldown as short as Arty's artillery strike?
I was pretty much spamming artillery strike....
-And if I buy Kira , she will have a Dreis loadout.
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>>128709615
Cooldown is longer but laser has more killing potential per call in

The biggest difference between the two is the ammo delivery method and their speed/HP/hitbox...which makes a gigantic difference but you have to play it to understand

Think Proxy with a burst rifle/dreiss
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>>128710749
ill buy that off of you in late 2017 when trading comes
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>>128710863
>tfw that's the only chance I have to get the GOAT woodgrain M14
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>>128709615
People tend to walk into arty strikes a tad more than the laser. And by that I mean I think most people in pubs would benefit from a pair of fucking glasses.
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Phantomeme best meme
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AYO HOL UP
*withholds ammo packs*
SO YOU TELLIN ME
*charges defibs in a firefight*
YOU TRYNNA SAY
*throws uncooked frag grenade*
HOL UP HOL UP
*decloaks with katana*
AYYOOOOOO
*waits out entire reload animation*
WATCHU SAYIN
*calls airstrike across EV instead of along it*
YOU SAYIN WE WUZ
*spends entire match walljumping in spawn*
AYYYOOOOOOOOOOOO
*plays Vasili*
YOU TELLIN ME
*stares at EV while teammate repairs it*
WE WUZ
*places turret in plain sight*
COMPETITIVE PLAYAS?
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>>128715827
>tfw you got an Ace with Proxy by walljumping over a crowd and shooting a mine you just threw right before you landed
>didn't record it

Everytime
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>>128717517
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>>128717594

meh

I would have some amazing webms daily with all the hilarious shit phantomeme can do but fuck getting a better computer and actually recording
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I just unlocked Red Eye. How do I get gud?
My Steam clock says I have played for 11 hours.

How do smoke
How do brain
How do I what
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>>128717517
AYO HOL UP
*gets killed by a competent player and immediately leaves the game*
SO YOU TELLIN ME
*hides behind teammates ganking kills and not doing the objective*
U TRYNNA SAY
*spends large amounts of time hiding from enemies if there are no teammates to meatshield me*
HOL UP U SAYIN
*posts screenshot of pub loss pointing at KDR as a measure of skill*
DBG IS
*bashes other fps for not being skill based*
U SAYIN DBG
*records webms vs sub 10s*
IS TRASH PLAYAHS NIGGA?
*gets rolled on stream*
DAS RITE
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>>128719532
Click on heads
Dag with your knoife
Use smoke to cover plants, objective deliveries, and advances
Use smoke to make yourself harder to shoot
Use smoke to corner ambush and bait, most people expect you to be inside the smoke.
Don't forget smoke goes both ways
Don't blind your teammates
Press E whenever you see enemies until red appears over their heads
If red disappears, click E again
Redeye can be deactivated sooner for less cooldown
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>>128719532
Step 1. put reticle on enemy head
CAN YOU GUESS STEP 2
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Don't be a dick.
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>>128721703
Report enemy location to team members and shoot a couple of warning shots?
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>>128721502
>Dag with your knoife
What does this mean?
I ask in earnest, I have no idea what this means. Teach a new guy so I can not be a shitter.
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>>128722660
Ozfag for stab. Throw smoke and shank niggas.
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>>128722772
>>128722660
>>128721703
>>128721502
>>128719532
This is what I've done so far, my hands are twitchy as fuck because of alcoholism and because the aiming is not at all like it is in Tribes. What bugs me about the Red Eye is the movement speed and the gun, can I unlock shit for him so that missing a shot or two is not so critical? I would love a not-so-sniper rifle gun.
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>>128723213
>I would love a not-so-sniper rifle gun.
Doctor's prescribing a healthy dose of Dreiss.
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Really diggin' these new shotguns
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>>128720594
10/10
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>>128723558
>it's a shitterbee showing us how shit he is again episode
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>>128723327
How would I go about getting that Dreiss gun then? Just keep playing until I can craft loadouts for the Merc I want?
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>>128724462
You have two options: you can try to craft one out of the cases you'll be getting, or you can skip the gambling and just save your money to buy the Bronze from the store.
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>>128724462
>do 3 days of daily free bonuses and missions
>buy loadout
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>>128724462
Also nigga the Dreiss is obviously some variety of G3.
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>>128724821
So I'll just keep playing then. I won't be putting money into these kinds of games anymore after Planetside and War Thunder no more.
It's a mixed kinda feel when you used to know how to play twitch shooters but your life habits like alcohol and drugs messed up your fine motor skills. Like, I know how to do what I need to do, but my fingers aren't always up to the task, with all the wiggling and tremors.

Are the case drops any way relevant to the effort you put into the match, or are they just random?
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>>128725206

I bet you played planes you faggot
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>>128725206
You misunderstand. You can buy the loadouts with credits if you want to skip the tradeup dice rolling. 17,500 creds for the exact Bronze you want.

And no, case drops are random. You should get at least 3-4 through a day of playing, generally more.
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>>128725094
Shit, that's right. The view when not inspecting looks a lot like an MK18, coming from a person who plays a lot of Insurgency. I always choose the MK18 when possible, and I recognize the features.
But then again, Dirty Bomb has these strange abominations in place of real guns.
I really like the visuals. I really like the whole game, I hope my hype doesn't die like yours does in this thread.

>>128725394
Ofc I played planes, and in arcade nonetheless. I have a full hotas+pedals stuff thing going on for me but just no, not viable for multiplayer.
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>>128725515
Nah, the only strange abomination is the Blishlock, and even it's just a tacticool'd Thompson Submachine Gun. And the Tolen MP which is a MP5K with the front and butt sawed off. Everything else is identifiable.
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>>128725873
Blishlock is the weird nailgun kinda weapon, with the magazine in the grip?
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>>128726026
No, it's the gun in the picture. The sound it makes is like a sewing machine/nail gun, but it's very obviously a Tommie Gun. It's their shoutout to Wolfenstein ET.
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>>128725206
Also, feel free to put money in if you want. The only thing you can buy soley with real money is cosmetics. It's not like PS2 or WT.
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>>128727076
Wish I had any money that doesn't go into rent or booze
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>>128727815
>not using elite cases to wean you off of drugs

can't buy booze if you already spent the money trying to get cobalts senpai desu
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>>128728669

this
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>>128728669
more like can't buy anything if the money is spent on booze already senpai desu
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>>128729635
>not starting with the next paycheck

you know you want some sweet blue cards.
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>>128729832
>being a welfare rat

Sweet blue cards look sweet as fuck but damn nigga
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>>128730006
I'm saying start replacing booze with Elite Cases, you figgit. Replace the drug that harms you with one that just looks swank.
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>>128730218
B-but what if the

What if the booze makes me look swank
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>set clan tag to /dbg/
>stu bullies you on the server
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>>128727076
You can play and get a bunch of stuff without having to pay money find the merc you like the most and play with them and only spend money on things you know you want.

>>128725473
Has the right idea buy a bronze of a loadout you want then just do'nt buy anything else till your sure on what you want then use the cases and cards on trading up
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Does this game still run like shit?
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>>128733063
I own u tsuka
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>>128733489
Also holy shit what happened when did this general become so ded?
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>>128733825
Pwned all the noobs so theirs no one left here. Sorry about that.
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>reddit niggers are so dumb they cant tell sarcasm without someone pointing it out for them
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This game alive? I want to play some shootan and I'm not in the mood for CS
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>>128737428
Servers are populated 25/7 so yeah.
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>>128737428
Yes

you have to shoot at the people not the ground, though
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>>128735603
>have 10 hp left
>guy fires shotgun at you
>2 bullets hit you with minimum damage
>omg shotguns so broken, they do damage beyond 10m
Is this you?
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>>128735603
cat a shit
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>>128698964
I approve of this message or product.
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I haven't touched a PC in two weeks, I shouldn't be doing this well. Even if it's a russian server.
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>>128742506
damn anon you totally owned that level 3 and level 7
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>>128742506
woah
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>>128742779
>>128743867
>implying levels matter
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>>128742506
>>128744120

SO GOOD PLAYER!
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>>128744120
BEST ON EU
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>>128744210
>>128744370
yes
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>>128744120
>draw
You can always spot the useless shitter farming his KDR in a game.
Any good player would not only win, but win faster, with LESS kills, because his kills actually have an impact on the game.
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>>128744463
>2015+1
>playing to win
lmao
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>>128744586
stop naming your pictures numbers you nerd
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>>128744652

kaur add me bby
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>>128744586
>56/9
>lost
I am honestly surprised how you aren't embarrassed posting these.
The shitters on the enemy team did what you with 4 times as many kills and score couldn't.
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>>128744586
>taking screenshots of rolls against low levels to look good on an anime imageboard
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>k/d matters
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>>128744806
>doesn't even win
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>>128744737
>>128744806
>literally playing to win when there is no reward for winning and no penalty for losing
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>>128745423
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>>128745467
fuck off slut
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>>128745512
I thought you were eating raz
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Will I get fucked if I don't spend money on this game?

How balanced is it?
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>>128745841
>Will I get fucked if I don't spend money on this game?
One of the least pay2win games out there.
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>>128745512
>>128745672
Post her sexy teeth.
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>>128745423
>no reward for winning
if you don't already understand you never will
but winning is the only satisfying thing
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>>128745841
I've been playing for almost 300 hours and I never spent anything. I still don't have all the mercs, I'm missing three that I'm not really too keen on buying. I have a few cobalts, every best bronze and a couple cards inbetween.
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>>128746005
>>128693883
>Is it p2w?
>No. The merc unlock system is relatively merciful and as long as you're not a compulsive gambler, you can amass credits pretty quick.There are also loadout cards with different rarity, but those aren't going to make you less shit at the game, and everything above bronze is purely cosmeticYou can easily craft them by trading up the dozens of crap lead cards you get
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>>128746680
woops. meant to reply to>>128745841
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>>128745423
>rolls low levels
>still cant win because all aim no game
>b-but winning doesn't matter guys hehe who plays to win!!!!!
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Is there a way to install this game as x64 bit?
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>>128746553
>>128746005

Neat. And presumably there is in-game voice?
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>>128745841
short answer:
no

long answer:
aura and skyhammer are great mercs, so you dont have to buy new mercs immediatly.
even though there are obvious best loadouts for the mercs you'll be fine without them
and for the rare loadouts (solver, gold etc) they are only cosmetic

hell i didnt even knew what to buy from the store, because i didnt care about the skins, and i enjoyed the mercs i have.
but because i wanted to give the devs some money i bought one of the merc bundle
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>>128748159
press "x"
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>>128748242

I'm pressing X and it's not doing anything.

Do I need to install the game for it to work?
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>>128748159
Yellow teeth like me, except that im smoking
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>>128748527
no it should work from desktop
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>>128707248
As a real Sparks main, damage nerfs don't make me give a fuck. As long as I can rev people from range and have ok healing, I'm good.
>>
>Destroy the generator of the right in trainyard
>Suddenly everyone goes to the left
>They repair it
And thats not even counting the medics that didnt heal after i killed all the enemy team
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>>128749428
it's just a game bro chill :^)
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>>128750869
What?
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dedbomb is no longer fun
i should probably quit vidya and find a new hobby
suggestions?
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>>128751628
what part are you having trouble with?
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>>128751775
literature
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>>128751775
drugs and/or alcohol
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>>128751835
I dont get whats "cool" with this webm, why even bother making it from the start?
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>>128750869
Woah man you can rush with proxy like a retard in pub 5v5 are you some kind of god or something
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>>128752071
>>128752241
it's advanced tactical recon stealth action gameplay, man.
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>>128733063
Never open those cases man. I currently have over 900 cards in my inventory and I can't switch mercs in lobby because there is not enough time to load all the cards I have.
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>>128752434
>I currently have over 900 cards in my inventory
there's a "trade up" button, you know
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>>128752471
it costs money, you know
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>>128744652
>>128744701
Kaur here. That's not me.
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>>128752620
let me guess

you hoard credits
or
you impulsively buy cases
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>>128752621
I love anime, Kira and Kaur!~ :3
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>>128752697
Spent ~500k on Christmas cases, got 2 special editions. Problem?

>>128752734
You are so Kawaii :3
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>>128752827
Wanna be f-f-friends?~
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>>128752827
>tfw spent about 10k on dickens cases
>got 6, two top tiers and a woodgrain AK
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>>128752827
I still don't have the olde flashlight.
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>>128752896

Why yes kaur! Wanna be friends with animegirl and me? What can go wrong!
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>>128752827
You still haven't told me if you are any good at the game.
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>>128752434
>I can't switch mercs in lobby because there is not enough time to load all the cards I have.
oh really? god damn
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>>128754252
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People seriously still play this shit tier game?

lol
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>>128755382
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>>128755382
>lol
Stopped reading there
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>>128755524
>there
stopped reading there.
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>>128755382
Friend, I think you mean to post in this? >>128755510
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>>128755568

>stopped

stopped stopped
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>>128755119
Can you blame subz for losing. Look at his team.
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>>128755119
That was from September, we've beaten that salty fucker without subz more than once since then.
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>gf buys phoenix instead of phantomeme

do i dump her?
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>>128755891
Our team isn't looking any better.

>>128755925
You may have beaten him but you haven't beaten me.

>>128756052
Yes. Dedicate your life to Phantomemeing, there is no time for women.
>>
>>128756052
>support gf to go with your engi or assault main
>"DUMP HER!"
Never change, 4chinkz
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>>128755651
>
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>>128748527
>sitting on table
>Food on table
>No coster
I'm so triggered right now.
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God damn it SD, release my girl already!
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>>128756982
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>>128756982
>not javelin
kill yourself tbhfam
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>>128757259
Your crappy rockets fly so slow I'll shoot them down midair before 360 noscope headshotting you.
>>
>>128757401

is that actually a thing?
>>
>>128757947
You get 2 firing modes. Normal rockets and remote controlled rockets. Controlled ones are slower, but you can guide them with a laser. Source: 4chan
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>>128755925
You beat him when he played with worse players.
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>>128758498
Pretty sure he had 2 cobalts with him at least one of those games.
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>>128758498
Excuses everywhere I go.
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>>128756052
>Speed demon aim punch heal man being a bad thing
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>>128756052
He went vasili and I kept destroying him until he raged

am I a good gf, /dbg/?
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I have a date with a boy in 3 hours /dbg/, what merc do I tell him I main to impress him?
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this is so gay
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>>128759201
fragger

boys nowadays love tough girls, and they starting to act feminine too
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>>128759328
Give in to absolute pleasure.

>>128759372
>girls
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>>128759425
OH IM SORRY
post belly or gtfo
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>>128758753
>gf
*snicker* But you did good though, Anon. He doesn't deserve what he has.
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>>128759201
An ammo merc like Arty, Kira or Stoker. Give him ammo and use the stations to block doorways and objectives.
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NO I HATE THIS
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>>128759570
i might not be, but hes a cutie and hes bad at videogames
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>>128760184
ayy
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>>128759201
Skyhammer
>>
Are you guys so deeply wrapped in irony that you don't know how to shut it off?
>>
>>128760184
>>128760546
>I hate free credits
If those were victory missions, but they removed them.
>>
>>128760745
>free credits
you know it takes 40 minutes to do a 20 round mission
and half the time you don't even finish your other ones

I could easily do the two other missions in one match, the execution would take three and I'd earn more credits playing stopwatch
>>
>log in
>have 3 ops
>do all of them in one game, endgame screen shows all three op slots on cooldown
>go back to menu
>same three ops on my list
>never even got any money

this game is fucked man.
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the poster below me is shitterbee, dont believe him
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dirty bomb will continue to be successful and the devs will make good decisions
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FIX THE FUCKING EU SERVERS SPLOODGE DAMAGE
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>>128762856
>what is cropping
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>>128762856
>inb4 nice cropping
yea i fucked up
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>>128762856
>nimetön.png
>vihaiset viljelytaidot
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>>128762978
are you this bad at everything you do
>>
>>128763215
>Moomins

Why does this shit have a cult following in Japan? I remember growing up in Hawaii watching the local JP network channels and this show would play all the time
>>
>>128763537
because anime
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>>128763537
>this shit
You didn't just call Moomins shit.
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>>128763537
>Moomins
>Japan
perkele
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>>128744586
>being so bad you have to go to max level 5 to get 50 kills
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>>128762856
>png
>1920x2156

you don't get to complain about other people not getting their tech to work
>>
>>128764096
png is superior to jpg retard
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>>128764145
png is just unnecessary bloat for shit like screenshots that you only post once and then delete
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>>128764256
why did you buy a 300tb hard drive if you're afraid of 2mb on a picture
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>>128764412
it's UNNECESSARY
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>>128764145
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>>128761819
Dogs are mean, man.
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>>128758753
source on pic?
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>>128765220
Hana Katsuragi
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Who /egyptkiller/ here?
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>>128765609
Do I qualify?
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>>128766053
fuck off dixu mixu go back to reddit
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>>128760413
Pfft, I was speaking to you. Noone would ever refer refer to shitting around on Vassili as "doing good".
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>>128766158
bruh, pls stalk my reddit and see how much I even post there
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Who is best db girl? and why is it mm?
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>>128767734
Nader, I wish she would choke me with her muscular thighs.
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>>128767960
This tbqh, family.
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>>128768806
any more of this cool art?
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>>128766341

>sounds like a weenie
>implying anyone wants to stalk you
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>>128769232

Its the Steam Trading Card art.
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>>128769232
Not that I know of.
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>>128769280
>coming from shitterbee
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>>128769398
atleast people stalk him

unlike you
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>>128763665
>>128763215
>>128763905
PA PA PA PA
PA PA, PA-PA
PA, PA

MA MA MA MA
MA MA, MA-MA
MA MA
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>>128769621
>implying I want to be stalked
btw why are you talking in third person, unless you're animeguy69
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>>128769621

BRUTAL
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I hate Sparks!
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>>128770181
everyone does
>>
phantom is the most retarded meme ass shit I've ever seen.

how can you make a merc that can only be countered by one other merc?
>>
How's the B83 on Kira? I like the BR-16 and I like the thought of doing an engineers job in case my team feels like plating team deathmatch instead of objective.
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>>128770972

>unironically complaining about mister dial-up modem sound when moving
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>>128770972
Oh yeah? Which merc is it? Because I shit on phantoms no matter what I use.
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>>128771235
not him but redeye is a hard counter to phantom
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>>128771347

NOT WITH ENGIMA HE AINT

>get spotted
>enigma makes it last less then fucking heartbeat sensor
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>haise/n80 think dreiss is good
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>>128771347

cept IR vision doesn't let you know if hes cloaked or not so you waste most of your ammo burning up his cloak bar.
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>>128771016
It's her best BR-16 loadout at the moment, because explodydendron doesn't work. If SD ever fixes it, the B41 becones the better one
>>
>>128771897
>>128771945
just shoot him lmao
>>
>>128771897
>>128771945
>people complaining about phantom

>shotguns hard counter him
>>
>>128772290
>people complain about phantom
>people complain about shotguns

>not being a retard counters most things
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>>128772373
>fletcher
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>>128771897
>>128771945
You can just look at him
With your eyes

You can just listen for him
With your ears

You can just shoot him
With your guns

Its not fucking rocket science; it's video games.
>>
>>128771981
Shiiit, it doesn't? That's incredible. I thought I read the Driess was the inferior choice now between her 3 guns, but what about BR16 vs Stark?
>>
>>128772963
Preference, they're both viable and have both more or less good loadouts. S81 for stark, B83/B41 for BR
>>
For some reason I can snipe faggots from across the map with burst rifles, but I lose the easiest fights with assault rifles and sometimes smgs. And my shotgun accuracy is the highest of all weapons. What is wrong with me, /dbg/?
>>
>>128773421
what's your mousepad : 360 ratio
>>
>>128773685
around 1.5 mousepads
>>
>>128773780
1:1 is ideal imo, but work on your tracking you probably have decent flick aim
>>
>>128773421
>my shotgun accuracy is the highest of all weapons.
Perhaps because shotgun fires 20 bullets at once and they go all over the place so it always counts as a hit.
>>
Reminder SoloQ is the best NA team.
>>
>>128774296
INF3RN0 can take them all 1v5.
>>
>>128774417
The cheats Fr0zz made him can allow him to do that.
>>
>>128774563
I'm sure a player that has been personally invited to closed alpha, has been around since ET and has played LAN tournaments cheats.

Not.
>>
>>128774716
Delusional cuck
>>
>>128774716
>Not.
>/s
Back to reddit.
>>
>>128774867
SoloQ shitters mad they can't even be #1 in a shitty dead game.
>>
Fucking rushdown tryhard Aura players are worse than Sparks.

I fucking hate them and there stupid little jumpy fucking I put my healing station down bollocks. I fucking hate them. Fucking niggers.

Yes I know how to deal with them. Its just really really fucking irritating. Like their fucking medics fucking heal and res your team, your worse than fucking Phoenix and you'll be lucky is that cunt res's anyone but himself.
>>
>>128775203
just play stoker
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>>128773118
Arigato, senpai. Since you're being so forthcoming with intel, do you have any hot juicy tips on purifying nonbelievers with laser beams?
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>>128693883
I have 348 hours in this game.

When should I expect to see a cobalt card.

I have only received two gold cards in total.

The amount of lead I have is ridiculous.

Kill me. But first let me spill my virgin seed into Miss Murder's fertile womb, consensually or not, it makes no difference to me.
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>>128777941
dude I have 300 hours in the game, haven't bought anything and this is my inventory

why haven't you been trading them up as you get them like a normal human being?
>>
>>128778518
Because my mom is a Jew and I don't like to gamble.

I don't see how you got all those Christmas cards, I got only one.
>>
>>128778682
trading up to at least bronze is barely gambling, then just casually trash the bronzes you don't want

get gud at opening boxes kid
>>
>>128778518
>that arty, aura, and thunder

Fuck.
>>
>>128778518
>300 hours
>no logitech
>no alienware
>no phoenix obsidian
>no CW
Did you do all those hours in 2 weeks or something?
>>
>>128778978
started nov 1
played heavily over winter break
>>
>>128778682
Not him but that's what you gotta do. Buy the specific loadout you want to play the game, then turn the shitty leads into irons, irons into bronze, bronze into silver, etc. Its guaranteed that rarity. And you can reroll higher bling cards to get different ones.
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>>128778682

I bet your dick is chopped up too you fucking retard lol
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>>128778978

What about me family
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>>128776257

You know what? Fuck it Stoker looks great, time to set some fuckers on fire, whats the AR loadout for Stoker? I have an Arti and Kira for Burst Rifle stuff.
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>>128778518
and I have these mercs so I haven't been excessively buying cases
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>>128779446

M4 or Timick I prefer the M4 loadout with drilled and mechanic
>>
>>128779446
M61 or S95. If you're a sick and depraved Timik nigger then T65.
>>
>>128779446
for stoker? anything with drilled
>>
>>128779446
Any card with drilled, all of his 3 primaries come with it.
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>>128779384
You need to play more and lurk less.
>>
>>128779758
>>128779863
>>128780252
>>128780417

Thanks anons. Gonna burn some people tonight.
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>>128782738
Do us proud, anon.
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>>128773421
Burst rifling demands efficieny and flicking accuracy.
>>
Is Fletcher ever going to get the heavy nerf he so rightfully deserves?
>>
>>128785082

No anon its fine, its Sparks thats the real problem right now. Its fine.

Shush.

Its fine.
>>
>>128785082
As soon as Sparks, Nader and Shotguns get nerfed.
Never
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>>128785391
See
>>128707248
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>>128785486
Alright so wheres the nader and shotgun nerfs?
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>>128777941
>When should I expect to see a cobalt card.
>I have only received two gold cards in total.
>The amount of lead I have is ridiculous.

you know you're supposed to trade them up, right?
>>
>>128785082
I still have no idea why "pro" players ever thought he was inferior to Bush
>>
>>128778518
>6 dickens skins
>haven't bought anything

sure thing bud
>>
>>128785917
Not him, but I also got 6 for free(4 guaranteed cases + 2 from lead cases) and 2 from the 10+1 bundle.
>>
>>128785824
Bush is still the better pick in general. Fletcher is outright broken on Bridge and Underground, but on open maps like Chapel he's objectively inferior to Bush "I can't believe it's not an assault rifle" Wacker
>>
>>128786108
t. pubshitter
>>
>>128785824
Fletcher's stickies used to be shit before buffs, also Bush has the Kek which is easier to use than Blish.
>>
>>128786431
you sure showed me buddy
>>
>>128786778
>the only "buff" Fletcher's stickys got was lock-on getting fixed
>this actually nerfed the default arming time and lock on now only makes it slightly faster then it was before
Face it, Fletcher was always good. Only now the vocal minority of shitters are starting to realize it.
>>
Things that need a nerf:
Sparks
Sticky bombs
Shotguns
PDP

Things that need a proper sized hitbox:
Aura
Sparks
Kira
Proxy
Your mom
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>>128787720
>no thunder in the hitbox section
that, his speed and his "ability" are probably the biggest problems with him at the moment. You cant be a aggressive crowd control pointman if you move as slow as Ryno and have a hitbox just as fucking big.
>>
>>128787678
Dude I'm talking about the start of open beta times, stickies used to have shit damage.
>>
>>128787678
It's not that he was good or bad it's just that it took quite some time for people to figure out how to unlock his potential. And for stickies to stop randomly disappearing, too.
>>
>>128788019
I'm talking about nerfs, not buffs.
>>
>>128788172
stickys never actually disappeared. the models for them did sometimes but they technically were still in place and detonate-able.
>>
>>128788416

I think he was meaning when you throw them and they would disappear, which wasn't even a problem since it only ever happened if you switched to the detonator too quick. Apparently there are loads of people that don't realise you have to actually throw the bombs first before you can detonate them.
>>
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what the fuck is a deardb omb
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>>128793128
Its eard bomb
>>
>>128793128
>>128793182
No, it's E A R D B O M B.
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DEARDBOMB
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>>128793361
so it's pronounced like that huh, dear dee bomb
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>>128793534
>dear dee bomb
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>>128787720
>Kira
She's fine, git gud
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>>128782918

Back with news, took a little adjustment but I shoved an ammo station on the left stairs at the first point of Chapel and thoroughly confused the fuck out of the other team. They just kept trying to run through it. Then they got set on fire.

Molotovs really fucking hate stairs though don't they, just vanishing through the floor.
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>>128793929
>More invisible than Phantom.
How the fuck is that fine?
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One final game with Sparks before the nerf. God shes OP as fuck.
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>>128795783
she only has 90 hp anon
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Who's the most braindead merc from each class?
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>>128797512
Nader Bushwacker Aura Stoker Phantom
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Who should I buy next? I'm thinking Stoker.
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>>128797379
>before the nerf

what? sauce?
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>>128797896
See:
>>128707248
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>>128797864

>Phantomeme
>Redeye
>Vaseline

No Nader. Fucking disgusting desu.
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>>128797969

Well hot damn. Hoozah.
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>tfw sparks nerf

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_JcM45gaFs
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Pretty happy that Sparks is getting nerfed but its just damage drop off, so she'll be just as good at batting people in the face and more importantly ressing people.

Now they just need to fucking fix shotgun damage and then Aura's might start acting like medics as well.

Oh who the fuck am I kidding nothing is going change in this game.
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>>128798716
where is the problem with shotguns shooting bullets instead of rice
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>>128798716
Shotguns are fine. They are actually useful.

Speed demon Aura and Proxy shotgun heroes are fine.
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>>128798716
>shotguns are too strong
lol
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>>128798716
Where does it say that sparks is getting a nerf?
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>>128806061
oh my god that blue remburg looks fucking amazing, I jizzed
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>>128806349
see
>>128797969
see
>>128707248
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>>128806381
8)
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>>128807368
pimp
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>>128707248

inb4 fagleth writes a 6 paragraph reason why the nerf is unjustified
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Who's the best merc for killing Sparks and why?
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>>128810062
PDP redeye probably if you exclude sparks
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>>128810062
>>128810226
I was also going to say redeye
she can't hit what she can't see
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>>128810339
so phantom is good too? :^)
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>>128810706
>implying phantom is hard to see
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>>128810062
Red Eye with PDP/Grandeur. Dreiss is also good against her. One headshot, one bodyshot.

Vassili with PDP is next.

Any mercs with Dreiss/Burst rifles is next.
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I bought Stoker and I love the him and the Timik I don't know how I was able to live without them until now
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>>128812219
timik da bess
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>>128812219
stoker was my first guy timik felt good to use on
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You may only reply to this post if you play Dirty Bomb with your gf or bf.

betas need not apply
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>>128815851
>implying i want a 3d girl leaching of my 70k salary buying shit she's never gonna use.

Feels good having a positive bank account
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>>128816257
>implying you could get a gf even if you wanted to
top lad
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>>128816791
it's not even hard just stop being an ugly sperg LMAO
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goodnight /dbg/ don't die while i'm asleep
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>>128818169
tough proposition desu
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>>128818169
>Tsuka literally doing nothing but longjumping across the street in front of your reticle

Fuckin weebs lmao
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How do I report someone, /dbg/?
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>>128820521
Wish in one hand and shit in the other.
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>>128776467
Whenever possible call it off walls behind people and sweep it over them so they don't see it coming.

Also you can call it off any vertical structure as long as it doesn't have anything above it, like a ledge or overhang.

A good example is attacking Trainyard last stage and you want to clear out behind the delivery spot...you can call it off the yellow fans sticking out above that little garage where the defenders come out of (without exposing yourself) and then sweep the ground below.

If you need an escape, call it down right by you then run away and spot the ground in front of you to make it follow you...idiots will literally follow you and get run over.

Also I laser charge down the left alley on Market all the time and it clears out whoever is camping there and if you're fast enough the back of site as well.

Idk just be creative.
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>>128820168

Holy shit I'm in stitches.
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>>128776467
don't forget that it doesn't require you to have the designator equipped all the time.
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>>128831110
every time i see her face it is just... not attractive
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>>128831621
>t. homo
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How did I do guys?

pls no bully
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>>128831110
she looks like she's craving for cock
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>>128833872
I-I love proxy it's just... the exposed shoulders the armpits... it turns me on, I don't know why it just does.
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>>128833872
>tolen
trash
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>>128831621
I bet you like that buck teeth raz
>>128833906
Yea her mouth is huge and always ready for the D
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>>128837652

she looks like she does porn
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>join game
>literally just run into the lab as phantom and grab both the cores mid fight

hes so hilariously good at particular part its insane
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>>128837652
>I bet you like that buck teeth raz
Razzie's teeth are the best.
>>128838176
>she looks like she does porn
She was/is a camwhore.
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>>128831110
>gee anon it's so big !
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EMERGENCY BAMP
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post em
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>Thunder has Fragger's LMG
>Fragger has Thunder's LMG
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>>128845342
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>>128845342
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>>128845342
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>>128845342
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here's a template
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>>128845342
fresh oc
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>>128846498
kek
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>>128845676
I BANG YOU ALL
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>>128845462
Don't question it.
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>buy Vassili
>first game with him
>7 KD 900 points per minute
>racking headshots like crazy

How the fuck can you even lose as a defender with this guy? Running out of bullets is his only weakness!
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>>128849985
try playing against non beginners
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>>128845676
those are some ugly fucking babies
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>buy Rhino
>first game with him
>7 KD 900 points per minute
>racking minigun kills like crazy

How the fuck can you even lose as defender with this guy? Running out of Auras is his only weakness!
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>Forum shitters defending the game
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>>128850830
Nader.
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>>128854128
>using a loadout as rhino that gives a fuck about nader
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>>128820168
To be fair, he installs some flat screens in the EV towards the end there
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I bought Stoker over Bushwhacker

I hope I don't regret this.
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good morning
>>128820168
>>128824152
>>128856724
he also won the game
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>>128854128
No, no. Stoker.
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I want to fuck Kira!
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>>128858148
That horse face though
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>>128858193
>You will never stroke Kira's face as you feed her your carrot
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>>128857870
>See Stoker with Molotov out
>Longjump
>Continue drilling his ass with minigun and spamming v57
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Friendly reminder to type setcantag /dbg/ in console!~ :3
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>join execution
>sparks nigger facerolling everything
>conc his face in and mow him down
>after 3rd death he switches to bomb nigger

its like fucking pottery
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>>128860567
>sparks
>doesn't show up on his mercs you've seen
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>>128860567
He sounds like you
>phantom :3
>i was going to troll new players
>xD
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>>128860664
For whatever reason shown mercs reset after switching sides in exec
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>>128860664

when you switch sides the mercs someone has reset to only what you have seen them use
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>>128860693

Nigger I literally main the worst mercs in this game dont even start with me
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>>128860706
>>128860774
oh I don't play that garbage mode
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time for content
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>>128861661
>Rhino, fragger, Nader
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>>128861928
>12,000 XP in Objective Mode
>8,000 Combat XP
>10,000 Combat XP with Fragger
suck me 8)
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>>128861928
What's the problem? Can't kill any of those 3? Back to tutorial, shitter.
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At tha beginnin of a match, tha playa is placed on either tha comin' at or representin' crew n' must complete various objectives up in order ta win tha round, while fightin both tha opposin crew n' tha clock. Da playa can chizzle up ta three mercenaries, or 'mercs', ta play as durin tha round, n' can switch between dem freely between lives. Crewwork n' communication is straight fuckin encouraged durin tha game, hinted at by tha mobilitizzle ta revive 'downed' playas, as well as tha fact dat bein tha 'lone wolf' often leadz ta a gangbangin' finger-lickin' dirty-ass short game. Da gameplay is based on Splash Damagez previous titlez Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory, Enemy Territory: Quake Wars n' Brink, like fuckin similar classes, gameplay objectives, n' certain classes havin access ta abilitizzles like placin ammunizzle packs, healin stations, or sentry guns. Da main goal of tha comin' at crew either begins by repairin n' escortin a Extraction Vehicle, abbreviated ta 'EV' in-game, ta a predetermined location, or ta plant C-4 on a cold-ass lil certain target. Da objectives afta dat point is mo' varied from map ta map; fo' example, on tha maps Trainyard n' Bridge, tha attackers' goal is now ta loot data cores/drug samplez from tha representin' crew n' serve up dem ta a helicopter, while on tha rest of tha maps, tha objectives is only ta fuck wit various targets fo' realz. Also available on each map is 'side objectives'; objectives dat aren't mandatory ta complete yo, but assist tha comin' at crew up in completin they illest goal. It aint nuthin but tha nick nack patty wack, I still gots tha bigger sack fo' realz. Attackers is encouraged ta take advantage of these side objectives before tha representin' crew be able ta seize dem wild-ass muthafuckas. There is currently three playable game modes: Objective, Stopwatch n' Execution mode.
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>>128864612
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I play phantom for this.
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>>128866918
>playing video games only to bully noobs
your life is dull
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>>128867061
>noobs
He was like 30-something and I'm 14.
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>>128867109
>levels matter
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>>128867257
Well, he definitely this game played more than me.
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>>128867354
>more than you
>coming from smurfbee
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>>128867463
Ayy. I fucking knew it. Shoudn't have posted phantom picture because that immediately makes me shitter bee.
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>>128867584
>implying you're not
just leave shitterbee
>>
>tfw you shuffle and all the decent players on your team is now on their team
>all their shit players are now on your team
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>>128868017
I hate this soo much every shuffle i've been part of i got moved to the losing team and it annoyed the shit out of me.
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>>128864612
t. Fletcher Barbosa
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>>128868017
>somebody ask a shuffle
>it passes
>nothing happens
>twice
>>
Whats with all the Bonez SMG cards being shit? Is he one of those just needs drilled and nothing else characters?

I fucking hate the Blish so thats not working, so Crot or SMG?
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>>128869649
SM72 is the best card.
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>>128869649
CR73/CR42 probably
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What's that inconsistent weapon that you either completely rektify people with or can't hit shit with and get owned by shitters, no in between?

For me it's the K-121, sometimes I feel like I can tear through a whole team without having to reload, some other times I feel like I can't 1v1 default Skyhammers.
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>>128870173
Same, with Fragger's LMG it's either I kill the enemy before the spread hits in or else I'm fucked.
>>
>People hide behind the EV to defend it
Everyfuckingtime
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How do we fix Fletcher /dbg/?
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>>128870642
excuse me
the EV is the best cover you can get, there's literally no reason not to stay behind it. You don't push any better from the front and it's still just as easy for the enemy to target it
>>
>>128870642
>people defending on the front of EV and not on flanks
worse
>>
>>128870718
If you defend it from behind you will not be able to stop an engie from repairing it

>>128870751
This dude gets it
>>
>>128870949
I'm talking about the other Defend
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>>128870642
>People hide in their own spawn to attack.
>People never pushing past the objective to defend it.
>When you see an enemy, run all the way back to your spawn and take the alternate route to the same location.
>Hide with 10hp for 30 seconds instead of selfkilling and being back in action with full HP in 5 seconds.
Pub life.
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>>128871068
If you mean before they repair then i have nothing to add
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>>128871335
I mean when you're defending the EV after repairing it
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>>128866918
that guy is notorious for being a crybaby.
>>
>>128870703

- Increase Sticky Bomb regeneration time from 8s to 10s (Dirty Bomb Wiki lists it at 10s, I've played Fletcher a couple of times and I highly doubt it's actually 10s)

- Reduce maximum splash damage radius to something tiny as shit, so people literally have to stand directly on a sticky OR be stickied to receive the full 100HP dmg

- Reduce maximum splash radius by 10% (that means a 20% overall decrease in explosion size)

- Stickies cannot be exploded until they land on a surface; no more airbursting stickies every fucking 3 seconds when that should be a Fragger exclusive specialty

Commence stickynigger complaining
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>>128871516
Then we have had a misunderstanding, i was talking when you are CDA and you gotta stop it from reaching the point
When you are attacking hiding behind it is a good strat
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>>128871758
I feel like all of that would be overnerfing but this particular two
>Reduce maximum splash damage radius to something tiny as shit, so people literally have to stand directly on a sticky OR be stickied to receive the full 100HP dmg
>Stickies cannot be exploded until they land on a surface; no more airbursting stickies every fucking 3 seconds when that should be a Fragger exclusive specialty
Are fucking great and should be implemented asap
T. Fletcher main
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>>128871758

-Take more self damage from detonating stickies right in his own fucking face.
>>
>>128872245
To make up for losing 10% splash radius, I'd start putting Bigger Blast augments on Fletcher cards for people who really want to abuse splash damage for better zoning

I am firmly adamant about increasing his sticky regeneration time. 8s cooldown when Fletcher has 2-3 stickies means he can effectively pace out his throwing and make that 3-4 stickies. I would be even more of an asshole and suggest an 11s cooldown, but I'd rather wait and see how much of an impact 25% increase to sticky regeneration works on top of these other nerfs I'm suggesting
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>>128870703
It only needs one thing - bombs wont detonate before a set time or a direct hit/landing. Just like Nader's nades take time to blow up.
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>>128864612
Why even waste the keystrokes to type that stupid shit?
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>>128872874
>implying copypasting is typing
>>
>>128872618
Now that i think about it you might be right about the CD increase, he needs however some way to compete with cuntwhacker's kek and proxy's frisbee of death.
The no airbusting thing is a 10/10 and i want that in the game no matter what.
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>>128872950
It had to start from somewhere. Even if this moron didn't create it, some other moron did.
>>
>>128872874
>>128873381
http://www.gizoogle.net/textilizer.php
>>
>want to play some dome, deselect all other maps
>join random
>connect
>"mission failed. bloody rubbish you lot are"
why
>>
>>128873080
Midair explosions are fine as long as you have to skillfully throw them for a long enough distance. How are you supposed to counter 3 nukes that explode instantly? Fucking fuse time, it needs to be there.
>>
>>128873481
Nobody wins on dome. Not even the winners.
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>>128873618
Whoever wins, we all make it look like hard work
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>>128873080
His primaries for the most part overall are weaker than Bushkeker or Proxy, but they still shouldn't be underestimated.

Part of Fletcher's design is to be a highly mobile and versatile Engineer merc, but his current state is just highly obnoxious to play against and more like an Assault class (Stoker has this problem too). Maybe SD would actually look at the augment and loadout system when Fletcher mains realize that they need to rely on their primaries/secondaries as much as their stickies
>>
>>128873080
>he needs however some way to compete with cuntwhacker's kek and proxy's frisbee of death.
Increase Blishlock firerate a little bit by like 15-20 RPM to bring it in line with other SMGs, and, I don't know, do some magic trick to make shotguns both viable and not OP.
>>
>>128874859
if blish rpm gets buffed then damage needs toned down
>>
>>128874859
literally both of those things are fine
i'm glad you don't work for SD
>>
>>128875160
This

Once Fletchers start using their guns they'll figure out that they aren't dogshit tier and actually capable of killing stuff by themselves
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>>128875523
>Only characters with the arnold have better ways to kill enemies
Come the fuck on SD
>>
>Click quick join.
>Put into empty server.
>Proxy voice announces: 'Well picked'
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Am I a hipster for liking the Double Time Hochfir card more than the meta one? Double Time allows me to go super fast even when reloading so Drilled loses its meaning. I can avoid fire support good enough without Guardian Angel. Only perk I will miss on is Quick Draw, which isn't necessary anyway. Also I like Stiletto more than the Bat, because I suck with melee and only use it to finish kills, and Stiletto is more efficient at gibbing.
>>
>>128876554
>Proxy
>Included in any kind of meta
>>
>>128870173
Shotguns. All of them.
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>>128876554
>smg proxy
literally the worst way to play her
shotguns are much better suited to her playstyle
>>
>>128876667
I've tried shotties and Hochfir is much more consistent, I can 1v1 bad snipers with it.
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>>128876946
but shotguns are better for shooting your grenades
>>
>>128876554
Nah I'm with you finnbro. Too bad the other two perks are useless, but Double Time is awesome and I actually like having a backup SMG as secondary as well. And the Hochfir is pretty good long range, I like annoying people from afar with it, and sometimes even out-1v1 snipers, not to mention people on turrets.
>>
>>128875047
Not really, DPS is 120 at the moment, a little bit more would still keep it in line with the DPS from other SMGs.
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>>128876554
KE12 IS the meta card. Weapons > perks and MP400 shits all over DE .50.
>>
Is there some sort of guide about where not to throw molotovs because they don't fucking work?

Like when they vanish through the floor or the fire does not spread?
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Rhino is the most broken OP bullshit merc in this game, how did he even get to this state this is fucking beyond me
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>>128878223
For some reason I thought KE53 was meta because of some youtuber saying so and I blindly believed him.
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>>128879091
Nice try rhino is the most balance merc to grace this game
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>>128879091
>what are explosives
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>>128879091
t. shitter
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>>128879295
Are you joking? 200 hp and unshakble, nice try
>>
Is this Steam DLC pack worth getting if I'm new and don't mind spending a little?

>Vassili, Rhino, Proxy, Nader
>Two elite cases
>50k credits
>18 hour booster

For $30. Would I be better off getting one of the 50% off merc bundles for like 20?
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>click once
>decimate the entire population of a small island
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>>128879349
The merc bundles like that one are the only things I consider worth the price in cash, if you are willing to spend money in the game go for it.
>>
>>128879349
Great mercs except for vasilli

50k is the value of one merc

the credit booster is literally worthless, it doesn't double credits from missions, only game xp.

you're getting 5 mercs and two silver cards for $30
if you think that's worth it then go ahead and do it
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>>128879349
Yes Rhino is fucking op
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>>128879665
>the credit booster is literally worthless
It's for keeping until there`s another double credit weekend.
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>>128879725
even then it was barely worth it
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>>128879091
1 rhino is fine.
Free rotation is not.
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>>128880247
Rhino rotation is the best, super easy to get combat exp for missions. Literally 300 for a kill + gib.
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>>128880457
>all dat Obamacare xp
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>>128880457
>super easy to get combat exp for missions
How the hell do you expect anyone to kill a merc with 200 hp and a minigun?
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>>128880813
get gud kid
>>128806061
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>>128880813

1.5 shots with a shotgun? Any explosive? Outmanuever him because he walks slower than a dead seagull?
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>>128873563
>manually detonated airburst
>skillful
pick one, seriously
too bad there is no longer a reason for the devs to listen to anyone but the sparks/fletcher maining skin collectors from reddit so any actual nerfing will never be done to their bullshit
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>>128880813
molotovs, stickies, grenades, headshots, artillery, any firefight beyond 10m range

rhino is easymode
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>not one of their artists can design a fucking elbow to save their life

How do you get detailed faces, well proportioned models, decent clothing, nice environments, and not be able to model a simple elbow? Every merc looks like fucking gumbie.
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>>128881117
>>128880928
>>128880874
rofl you people are delusional, perhaps if you actually played the game you would see how broken op he is
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>>128882219
Ok please ignore the webm of a rhino getting destroyed by one of the lowest HP classes
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>>128882219
sup Crucifix
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What was the easiest mission you ever got?
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>>128882219
He's poorly balanced, not OP. He's sometimes really hard to kill, other times he's basically useless.
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>>128882219
>rhino at long range
>anyone can outdamage him
>rhino at short range
>you can hear him from miles away because he has to spin up his barrel
>if he doesn't you can kill him before he gets his first shot out
>he can't dodge explosives
>he can't do any damage at range

if you lose against rhino, ur just bad m8
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>>128880813
>>128882660
I wonder how anybody thinks rhino is op. I play fragger, nader, redeye across my main history and I shit on rhinos at all time. He's more of a free kill than shotgun proxy trying to get in range of you
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>>128882628
>[8ch]
>1280x1024
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>>128870173
>>128870307
K-121 for me too. Something's strange with this weapon.
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>>128882889
Why don't you post yours Anon ?
I'm sure a brave soul like yourself has no qualms with a little showing off ?
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one hour until OCB NA + Dawnrazor gets rekt
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>>128883256
>actually keeping track of the non-existing competitive scene
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>>128883256
I got The End and Memesley to play on our accounts it's gonna be OK.
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>>128883160
show off what? my embarassing clantag and my laptop resolution?
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>>128873434
Oh, the internet and it's marvels.
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>>128883357
something to do before memewatch
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>>128883160

duster is a cute name just sayin
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>>128884020
damn what a cumslut you are
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>>128870173
its got a lot of rng
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>>128884053

the fuck?
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>>128837370
>needing a secondary
Shotgun to the face, jump around swinging the cricket bat with quick slash, ez kills. This is arguably better than phantom with katana+chopper.
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>>128882808
>>128882732
Most good players don't play Rhino. He's always bitched at for being a low skill/easy character, but he's really not that easy. If you don't get the drop on someone with moderate skill, they'll probably kill you. You're always targeted first, you're easy to hit, you're slow. He's just hard to play against if you lack an explosive character when he's on an Aura station. But most good players have Fragger, Nader, Stoker, or Fletcher in their squad.

I personally think he's fun to play. He's a unique kind of challenge to play. For such a powerful character with high HP, you really have to be sneaky to play him against better players. Feels good killing them and then listening to them complain that Rhino is easy mode despite them never playing Rhino. Something about Rhino makes people salty as fuck. He's the only merc so consistently called out for being easy. Not to mention if you don't stomp the whole enemy team, you get called out for playing an easy merc and doing poorly.

He's poorly balanced, but people only see him as some OP easy mode merc. He's highly situational and is OP on only a handful of spots in the game, but apparently people only remember those moments and think he's like that at all times.
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>>128857736
Enjoy your worse skyhammer
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>>128885534
It's actually very easy to use his minigun across long range to kill shitters.
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>>128885765
literal kids can't handle dose bullets
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>>128885765
True, but you can kill shitters easily with anything. They don't know how to handle various types of mercs in the game. They've usually only gone through a couple of free rotations.
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I hope we're all rooting for our guys OCB
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>>128886063

>play anything
>flank
>free kills

literally just played vasili and took the gas tunnel on bridge as defender for free kills

all those retarded vasilis lined up looking the other way along with random arty or kiras
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WHAT WEAPONS IS JAVELIN GONNA HAVE

I WANNA MAIN HER WEAPON NOW
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>>128884053
Just filter his shitpost tbqh it makes this gen more eye pleasing
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>>128886440
Probably assault rifles. I could see her being the BR-16 merc. Maybe BR-16, Stark and Timik or M4.
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>>128886063
>they've usually gone through a few free rotations
more like they are level 20+ and have a negative k/d in a match

I understand people have lives and can't train but jesus, the cod generation has bred a new type of shitter
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>>128886443

Is it time for REMINDER TO REPORT ALL ANIME FUCKING ANIMEFAGS ON FOUR CHAN WTF?
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>>128886440

A rocket launcher merc is probably an assault merc, so I'd guess assault/burst rifles.

But if her RL is super strong I could see them giving her smgs.
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>tfw a lock-on fletcher complains about our teams body-shotting pdp vassili being op over the course of two stopwatch games
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>>128886689
her rl is gonna be shit and they will give her smgs
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>>128886662
I usually do that but i've been in the /d3g/ and /bnsg/
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>>128886954
But we already have nader
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What is the worst loadout you have?
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>>128888074
I have a non-drilled thunder lmg card in bright blue cobalt.
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>>128888074
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>>128886689
it's not impossible that they'll make a completely new gun for her since all the other primaries are already assigned on other mercs' default loadouts, assuming turtle is getting BR-16
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>>128888834
>Engineer ever having an assault rifle
Those niggas only have smgs and shotguns, real guns are for combat classes
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>>128888074
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>>128889042
turtle is the only engi without a damaging ability, he definitely needs more than just SMGs or he will never even be considered as a pick to replace bwhack/fletcher
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>>128889189
If he has machine pistol secondaries he might be good. Like a Kek + mp400 loadout.

Also I still hope for a riot shield function. Can you imagine? Mobile shield with machine pistol secondary?
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>>128889189
You make sense, but im still skeptical
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>do well with proxy, 40-9 last match
>try to play skyhammer or arty against the same players
>0 kills 900 deaths

Why do I suck so bad at using these abilities? I can't even trigger a single airstrike before getting killed and I somehow miss every shot with these guns
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>>128889827
badness
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>>128889827
you're a proxy main you just don't know it yet

it happened to me too
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>that guy who manually switches to the airstrike designator and aims it with the scope

i keep seeing people do this with abilities like the frag grenade and mines too. do people not know they can just hit q?
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>>128890041
>having abilities bound to keys that force you to take your fingers off WASD
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>>128890041
see here's the problem with Q and the reason I rebound Q to mouse button 5.

When you hold Q you can't move left. Period, unless you have some kind of retard fingers. This works fine for certain abilites like Nader's or Rhino's that you only have to tap to activate, but fails miserably when you're holding a grenade and trying to strafe.
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>>128890219

cant you just press down your fingertip at the joint to hit the S key?
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>>128890037

The toss & shoot proxy move is really effective and I use it all the time, but it irritates me on a stylistic level.
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>>128890037
There is no such thing as a Proxy main, only a player who is too bad to play the real Fletcher
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>>128890383

imo its because mine placing is so fucking clunky in this game. it would be a bit more stylish if you actually threw the mine instead of just shitting it out at your feet, but i feel like that would open up new avenues of proxy faggotry.
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>>128890341
>can't you just break your finger lmao
no reason to hurt yourself when you could just bind it to a mouse button
>>128890383
>>128890610
it's actually difficult to get mines to go exactly where you want them because of the way they pop out of you, a tossing animation would fix this
>>128890457
>implying
fletcher is the most boring merc
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>>128890810

ah see im not a big fan of putting action buttons on the mouse.
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>>128870703
You fix Fletcher by aiming better. But I doubt you could do that shitterbee.
scrub.
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>>128891425
but normally your left ring finger would be on D, but your right thumb would be inactive.

It makes more sense to use your thumb instead of moving your ring finger
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>>128891657

I have the crouch secondary bind set to my thumb button so I can crouchjump easily.
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pheonix is such a meh, boring ass character. At least sawbonez is op.

They should lower the effectiveness and the cooldown, animation of his heal, triple its aoe, give him 80 hp
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>>128891778
that's the only one that actually feels natural to do with default bindings imo

Space and V is where my thumb naturally rests so hitting both isn't really a big deal
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>>128890041
Lel, when I play fragger I actually use both methods. Q for actual in fight throws and 4 + mouse for precise longer range throws. Just pressing q doesn't cut it sometimes.
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>>128891657

i have ptt set to one of my thumb buttons and the other has been broken for quite a while and im too lazy to buy a new mouse.

the scroll button is right out because the deathadder scroll button takes like 10 pounds of force to actually click.
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>>128891431

>look at me play fletcher vs retards haha

You make NA scene look like shit you fucking nigger
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>>128891778
>there are people who manually input that
>not having alt bound as "crouch | jump"
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>>128892173

>cheating
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>>128892173
>not using alt as your actual crouch key
i shiggy
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>>128891431

>more than half of the server has negative kdr

oh no
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>>128891657
>>128892112
I have sprint and actions on my additional mouse buttons. I don't know, it feels good.
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>>128892213
?????
It's all in-game console commands. One command in fact.
>>128892243
I use c for that.
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>>128892163
>>128892251
I could play EU but I doubt it would change much, even with the 100+ ping :^)
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>>128891431
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>>128892308

i find that the more buttons i have on my mouse, the worse i aim.

honestly i've contemplated changing my fire button to spacebar to see if it makes any difference.
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>most kills i've ever gotten was 67
Am I playing the wrong mercs?
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I've been playing fps so long I could fuck your girl harder with my pinky than you could with your dick

>all these shitters afraid of ctrl key
rofl
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>>128892645
Well, what are you playing?
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>>128892645
no, you need to get better at the game
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>>128892645
That's my highest for Stopwatch. I generally get high 20's to high 30's in Objective depending on how fast it goes. I think the highest I got in a half on Stopwatch was high 40's, but then we rolled so fast the second half I ended up with only low 50's.
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>>128892835
>I could fuck your girl harder with my pinky than you could with your dick
Haha! You can't fuck someone who doesn't exist!
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>>128892871
Redeye. I used to play nader and fragger but they're so boring.
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>>128892835
>needing to hit ctrl with the tip of your pinky
o i'm laffin

come back when you've got the skills to hit shift + ctrl at the same time without hamfisting it by using your nail
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>>128893103

>long disgusting nails

you fucking degenerate
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>>128893269
>reading comprehension
gb2 2st grade fag
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Nth for aimee
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>Write in chat during execution
>Instant connection lost
DUDE
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>>128892457
>showing a SS of you killing sub 15 SA shitters
nice ego boost
>>
Why is javelin so perfect?
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>>128896052
>non-existent
>perfect
ok anon
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>>128896052
You'll get your wiafu in july
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>>128896412
Well, yeah. That's basically definition of perfect.
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>Event is over
>still no lantern
>one hotfix later
>no news on two next mercs
rofl
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>>128896707
its beta relax
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>>128886552
Sounds reasonable. Nader having smgs due to how fast her special refreshes will fit Javelin having ARs but very slow refreshing/few rockets.
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>tfw i just want sawbro blishlock but i keep getting cr73
Why SD, why
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>>128897864
If it's too slow she better be fire support. Maybe it could be the same as Arty, 2 rockets for 20 sec cooldown either.
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>>128898042

i have that card but honestly i've stopped playing sawboner in favor of pahonix.
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>>128898315
Arty is probably a good comparison? His explosions being not projectiles, and probably bigger, balanced by the airstrike mechanic.
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>>128898428
I could take that card off your hands If its cobalt.
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>>128898671

no its a disgusting silver carbon
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Who are the best players of /dbg/?
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>>128898932
me ;)
>>
At least i got unshakeable
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>>128898932
stu
deadcuck
pubstance
shitterbee
ashur
and you
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>>128899275
Yay!
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>>128899269
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>>128899269
ouch
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After 10+ tries I finally get a SM41 on Nader.
It's a bronze
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>>128899275
> no dawnrazor

csquared?
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>>128900250
csquared doesn't play anymore
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>>128900083
took me at least 15 times to get an MG loadout for fragger

I got that shitty M4 one like 4 times
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Why is this so useless?
The only time I get kills with it is if the enemy is weakened first from a firefight, THEN run into it.
-And even then they need to be shot at by it for a few seconds, like diffusing a bomb or something .
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>>128900754
It's not for getting kills, it's for creating crossfires. Also it gives a shitton of aimpunch.
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>>128899269
That's my favorite card actually. I don't do much air bursting, I do a lot of sticking, so Lock-On isn't super important for me. I love Flying Pig and Chopper with the bat is great.
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>>128900754
It's not tf2. You have to cross fire.
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>>128900573
Tell him to give me all his cards please
-stu
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>>128900754
you can kind of jimmy it on top of certain structures where people won't notice it then run away and just ignore it, fighting would only attract more attention

most I've ever gotten with one was 4 though, your guns are much better.
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>>128900754
Placement mate, same as mines; surprise is key.
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>>128900573
>all the original memers will get bored of the game and quit one by one

feels bad man
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>>128900250
tbqh i forgot he plays iirc he changed his name.
And biggest kira fagits i came across in pubs from here are
tuska
gaysion
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>>128903463
it's funny that you think that I don't even own kira 8)
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>>128900754
you just have to learn some good spots mate. Turrets are absolutely fucking beast.
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>>128904009
good i hope you never get that slut
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Kira is the best, the best!~ :3
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>>128904204
>behind the boxes at Underground second objective
I can't wait for the Proxy Rotation to come back.
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>>128904237
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-dA3qAgQtI
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Does sd have 3 or 4 wmployees atm? I know they have at least 2.
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>>128901785
Thats why i always have one elite back game, like adrenaline gamer or cpm, so i dont get too depressed. They are only alive enough for two pugs a week but its still more net monthly skill. Id assume the elite from this game play et wolfenstein pugs a few times a week.

But yeah, a majority of this games players are fotm babies that play shit like tf2 and will leave instantly when overwatch comes out.
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>>128901776
Its still shit. No point in playing bushwacker unless you rock a nasty kek and need a tech merc.
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>people defending rhino as balanced because he can kill shitters in pubs
>people unironically want slow damage sponges in the game
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>plays fagger and fletcher
>has dbg clantag
I'm cringing so hard
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>>128909939
do people actually know that it's a joke to have the dbg clan tag
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>>128905379
i'm not a leg man
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>>128909939
So you got stomped and cried about it. Then this guy told you the truth. And now you feel butt hurt so you have to attack him behind his back to be able to sleep at night ?
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Broxy way too OP.
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>stream 83 kill game
>1 viewer

Kill me
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Is there anything more stylish than maining pdp redeye?
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>>128910617
back to reddit totgeweiht
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>>128910956
When you are in your channel, you count as a viewer
>0 viewers

Nice anon
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>>128911301
mods don't count as viewers
channel owner = mod
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>>128888765
I don't get this meme, how is it bad? It makes up for the lack of firepower with better healing.
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>>128910770
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>>128909939
There is literally nothing wrong with fletcher

>>128910956
>expecting viewers streaming ded bum
>expecting viewers when you dont use your mic to talk to the chat like lightningcuck

come on senpai
>>
>>128888765
^This card was played to win this tournament:
>>128910770

Far from bad.
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>>128911214
Did I strike a nerve ?
>>
>>128910770
would be cool to see him play a real fragging merc
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>>128911542
thanks mr moine
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>>128909939
Someone actually fell for it
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>>128882628
Two instances of completing secondary objectives where all I had to do was press a button for the elevator several times.

...I miss those.
>>
>>128911621
I've had quality options with nothing but a shit quality stream and music at one point
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>>128911542
thanks mine
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>>128911542
sleep tight miner
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>>128891425
Instead you can press 4 to switch to your ability then click to use or prime.
>>
>>128909939
>>128912195
I've seen two players in the same day with /dbg/ as the clan tag. They were both pretty bad and went negative. I won't call out their names, but I hope they took the tags off.
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>>128913270
this dude was mediocre, not the shittest but average. what made him average was playing ez mode mercs.
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>>128911214
Aren't you touchy mctouchy nervenstein.
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>>128911542
THANKS MOINE
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>>128913673
Post pic
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Friendly reminder to type setclantag /dbg/ in console!~ :3
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>>128914361
It's ok. People that actually fall for this deserve it.
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>>128914241
didn't take more screenies
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>>128914361
I love anime and kira haha :3
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>>128914754
luckily she is getting nerfed next patch. Just in time, she was getting out of control !
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>>128914754
>hiding the rest of the screenshot where you still lost
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>>128914361
^_^
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>>128914754
>new user lobby
Friendly reminder to always have a melee merc for when playing in newbie lobbies.

Also does this game have invisale elo or is rank considered skill
>>
>>128915327
public skill rating is a separate thing from your MM rank
PSR is based on your average score per minute in the last 15 or 25 games that you played
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>>128915579
That explains why I keep putting on the shitter teams. I'm not a hard carry, but I always get a really high score from being firesupport/medic.
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>>128915787
the life of playing aura
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>>128916105
It's silly.
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>>128915579
>main snipers
>only farm kills, ignore objectives
>my team is generally always better than the enemies, we ofen deep spawn kill
When will i pay for my sins?
>>
>>128916424
>Teams are balanced
>You got carried
>You won

What's so hard about "the Aura lyf"again ?
>>
>>128916995
I was more referring to the amount of points you get being silly.
>>
>>128916424
>>128917302
>tfw playing aura
>I get experience so fast and in such amounts that it breaks the exp feed
>>
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>>128915156
Lol settle down there angry boy :3

You should relax with some anime haha
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>>128915787

non-braindead medics always get first place on the team/server when they are on the shitter team.
>>
>>128918080
I was just guessing, but I'm glad that it's true.

>boy
>>
>>128918396
You sure are an angry little guy huh, boy

It's just a game :3
>>
>>128917662
I am new to the game, does all of your ingame score get turned into exp ?
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If only there was a way to remove weapon models, the grandeur would be a nice gun to use...
>>
Friendly reminder that Killerbee is the premier representative of EU Dirty Bomb and should therefore be respected as your superior
>>
>>128918189
That's why I keep getting put on the shitter team then. I am basically captain shitter at this point.
>>
>>128918740
Wtf is going on in this webm?
>>
Stu is such a shitter. Glad we dropped his ass from the stack so I could finally rank up to elite. Next need to get rid of Csquared since he's hot trash.
>>
>>128918528
My all girl team could wipe your butt with our skills.
>>
>>128919453
Post feet
>>
>>128919335
who dis
>>
>>128919565
whales don't have feet, idiot
>>
>>128919335
>hating stu
>getting rid of a player that doesn't even play anymore
who are you
>>
>>128919453
>all girl teams
Ive never seen one do well, sadly. They have lives.

Reminder that the best girl in esports, scarlet, is a trap guy.
>>
>>128919335
>dumb weeb doesnt realize csquared hit elite weeks ago and quit
>>
>>128919842
>>128919762
>>128919975

Shut the fuck up idiots. I didn't give you my permission to respond to me.
>>
>>128920068
dumb russian shitposter
>>
>>128919762
Its me, substanze
>>
>>128920203
>shitposting
Lol its me killerbee
>>
>>128920389
am killerbee
can confirm
>>
>>128920568
that's true
t. killerbee
>>
God you all are a bunch of retards. You all should just do a mass hanging.
>>
>>128921019
it's "hanged" not "hung"
>>
>>128921019
>being this triggered
>>
>>128921019
spotted the killerbee
>>
>>128921221
>hanged
umm you do know it's hanging right hanged would be used for past tense. And where did you even get hung from when it says hanging.
>>
>>128921019
Yeah we should hang out one of these days
>>
>>128922052
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1y2xvKby2Sw
>>
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this is how you level up fast
>>
>>128922363
>trying to play bait
ok
>>
>>128922646
how can I play with blank name and level?
>>
>>128922646
good job hiding the chat hacker
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>>128922715
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/dbg/ admin anally blasted by rotation rhinos
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>>128922910
HOLY SHIT DBG ON SUICIDE WATCH

WHAT A BUNCH OF SHITTERS IN THAT GROUP LMAO

REDDIT 1 DBG 0
>>
>>128922646
>sub ten lobby
Is that why ive never gotten more than 67 kills?
>>
>>128922910
yea I just wanted to finish my another mission stack before going to sleep
looks like that wasn't possible
>>
>>128923413
only 2 players sub 10 and that level 8 arty was shooting really well with the dreiss
>>
>>128923103
>tfw 4chan is too dead to ever reach 2011 levels of shitting on reddit again
>>
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>>128923707
4chan is reddit now, they won.
>>
>>128923707
Most /dbg/ posters also use reddit so this kind of rivalry wouldn't work. You know I'm right. I downvote your shitposts every day.
>>
>>128924008
only person i see on reddit is killerbee
>>
So highest of high quality players of /dbg/ are you constantly jumping?

Do you jump at even the slightest hint of enemy fire and do not stop jumping until all firing has ceased?
>>
>>128925857
I only jump with scopes and when ADSing long ranges, otherwise it's just a shit ton of unnecessary RNG
>>
>>128925857
unless you're jumping black man (fletcher) or any shotgun merc, don't jump while shooting
>>
>>128923707
DED
E
D

BOARD
O
R
E
D
>>
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I joined at round 6.
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>>128928898
>hiding name
wats rong

can't handle the bantz
>>
>>128925857
Yes, but only when...
>someone gets the jump on me (an inaccurate shot is better than no shot)
>I'm using a weapon that doesn't suffer heavily in the spread department when jumping (and I feel like it)
>I'm not shooting things for whatever reason, and feel the need to dodge things
>>
>>128933292
>>128933292
>>128933292
migrate
>>
>>128911542
THANKS MOINE
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