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Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog general. Let's talk about Sonic games, old and new, and the entire franchise including animation and comics. Share art, music, talk about new developments, discuss ROM hacks, speedrunning, etc.

/sthg/ #390 - Mighty Edition

>Link Compilation<
http://pastebin.com/p1bzghuF

>Drawfag/Writefag Idea Walls<
http://pastebin.com/j8KkPQ4n
http://pastebin.com/jNKKMk5b

>News/Developments<
Archie Action Releases for April 2016
http://comicsalliance.com/archie-action-releases-for-april-2016-solicitations/

Sonic Boom TV Development Footage Found
http://www.sonicstadium.org/2016/01/sonic-boom-tv-development-footage-found/

Sonic Movie is Still in the Works
https://twitter.com/VanTheBrand/status/686254233486659584

Sega Reveals New 25th Anniversary Details “Branded Events & New Style Guides”
http://www.sonicstadium.org/2016/01/sega-reveals-new-25th-anniversary-details-branded-events-new-style-guides/

Mario & Sonic At Rio 3DS Releases March 18th
http://www.sonicstadium.org/2016/01/mario-sonic-at-rio-3ds-releases-march-18th/

>Recent Releases<
Sonic Lost World has released on Steam!

3D Sonic the Hedgehog 2 has released for the Nintendo 3DS! You can buy it on the Nintendo 3DS eShop.

Sonic Dash 2: Sonic Boom has released for iOS and Android devices! You can download it for free from iTunes or the Google Play store.

Sonic Boom's first season has ended! You can watch all of the first season's episodes in English here:
http://www.watchcartoononline.com/anime/sonic-boom

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nth for OTP
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>>128688234
OT3
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>Mighty Edition

Totally irrelevant character in the franchise, but a good edition nonetheless.
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>>128688432
He's about as irrelevant as any other pre-Colors character, nowadays.
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>10 away from thread 400
Think it'll be a quiet one?
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>>128688583
You'll get no argument here.
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>>128688756
Unless SU83 comes out, more information on the 25th Anniversary games surfaces, or a senpai and a few drawfriends decide to surprise us...probably. But hey, at least we have eachother, right?
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>>128688756

Totally depends on who shows up. Shit can get crazy when official folks creep in, but if none of that happens then we'll probably talk about waifus or something.
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>>128688583
Yacker is more important than Mighty
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>>128688583
and that's a damn shame.
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>>128688090
>>128688432
>>128688583
>[laughs] "Mighty"? who is 'dat? Some-kind of'a fan character?
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>>128689637
Go to bed, Iizuka.
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>>128690501
It's morning in Japan.
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Mighty a QT
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>>128688090
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Send help

>>128685736
kek

>>128687329
It's been so long
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>>128690501
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I require assistance
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Someone stop me
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>>128691461
>>128691652
>>128691837
WHY
HH
Y Y
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W-what the fuck is this /sthg/?
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Who wants Sticks for Sonic Adventure 3?
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>>128692403
I want Sticks to stay away from the main series.
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>>128692386
Shadow. I can tell by the middle pic alone
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Sonic Boom confirmed three-toed feet.
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>>128692386
Shadow
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>>128692524
>Shadow pic to start off the year
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>>128692386
Shadow...with...a bandana?
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>>128692494
Well, too bad. She's coming!
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>>128692386
>>128692746
Solid Shadow. Fuck yeah!
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>>128692403
Literally noone.
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>>128692494
>>128692962
Two people aren't "noone".
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>>128693148
NOONE.
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>>128692386
Shadow with sunglasses
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>>128693148
True, but not just here, but on other boards and other sites, I've seen people pretty damn opposed to Sticks even touching the main games. And I doubt it's just me, but I'd hate to see her get a starring role in the main series when other characters like Knuckles, Amy, and pretty much anyone not named Sonic, Tails, or Eggman are pretty much neglected
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Do you like Shadow?
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>>128692403
If they can make her boomerang gameplay interesting I don't see why not. Or jungle weaponry gameplay would be better.
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>>128693263
CUTE
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>>128692403
Fuck no.
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>>128693342
Sure do
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>>128693342
Yes. He's an interesting character
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>>128693342
He's okay.
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>>128693485
They're all so cute
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>>128693342
Depends who is writing him

>>128693505
yes
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>>128692529
>Get Lucky
Aw shit nigga, now I gotta listen to RAM again.
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>>128693720
Cute is the best

>>128693905
>Not posting the Eggman version
what is wrong with you
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>>128693342
God damn right I do
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>>128694071
A lot of things
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>>128694275
It's ok anon
at least you had it
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>>128693567
>>128693569
>>128693576
>>128693820
>>128694196
Now, how about Boom Shadow?
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>>128694679
Eh. It kind of feels like they played it really safe with him
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>>128694679
YOU KNOW WHAT MAKES YOU WEAK.
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>>128694679
Literal Vegeta tier

now if only he would adapt some more of Vegeta's personality
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What do you guys think of the Sonic Shorts? Do they still hold up today?
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>>128694942
Some of them do (The Fan character one is still great to this day) but a lot of them don't, and the animation quality is pretty bad, but I'm not expecting something that great
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>>128694679
Not into Boom.
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>>128694901
Is this answer not my friends
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>>128694679
Not a fan of re-edgehogging him.

>>128694942
I liked them when I first watched them. Haven't rewatched in years, though, so it could be shit.
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>>128694912
Cute
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>>128694942
"PRESS THE CIRCLE BUTTON TO SLIDE" still gets a laugh out of me.
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Good night /sthg/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfyeud94JnQ&index=20

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5AX0sn9FN4
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>>128693342
Depends on how he's written; he's got a lot of potential. This being Sonic, of course, things get fucked up at almost every turn.

He can be an edgy anti-hero, a "tragic" (insofar as a cartoon hedgehog can be "tragic") hero, a grouch with a hidden heart of gold (or at least bronze), a comically serious thug, a manipulative sorta-kinda villain, you name it. But since nobody can agree on what he's supposed to be, he ends up being all of these or none of them.

Thus, the (stereo)typical way to write him is to throw all of those character traits into a blender set to "liquefy", mix in a measure of alien blood and tears, bake the mix in a casserole dish at a million degrees for a week, freeze it for fifty years, then serve it with a side of steamed bat and deviled Eggman when the fans are hungry for edge.

The trouble is that it isn't just fanfic writers that do this; it's how he's been portrayed in canon since the beginning. So until everyone can make up their damn minds on how to write him, he isn't worth using.
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>>128695059
The Omochao short from part 5 still makes me laugh.
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>>128694942
Zero the Artificial Hedgehog is the best OC
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>>128693263
>>128693485
>>128693569
>>128694912
>>128695530
Oh gosh
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>>128694901
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwDwXGlEK48
>my face during this entire cutscene
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>>128695812
How do they right Shadow in the comics? Is it good enough to replace game Shadow?
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>>128696027
>right
But yes, he's pretty great in the comics. Team Dark as a whole is 10/10 in the comics.
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>>128692529

>Not even using the Genesis version of Get Lucky

Why even live, senpai

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60Hw3blMYls
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>>128696027
>How do they right Shadow in the comics?
Do what 06 did but better AKA put him on GUN alongside Rouge and Omega, and allow for some good moments between them. Make him less edgy and more the straight man to everyone's bullshit.
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>>128695530
my hearth can't take this

good night anon
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>>128696160
Gimme a break man I'm tired
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>>128696160
Best team besides Team Sonic.
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>>128696027
They do Shadow "right" by having Shadow be "the serious guy" without being edgy, and giving him a good supporting cast that he can bounce off of. This lets him be diverse enough to be a protagonist or antagonist (his fight with Knuckles) depending on what makes sense, without being stupidly edgy.
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>>128694679
A jackass.
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>>128696336
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>>128696393
I meant write
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>>128696336
Rouge was such a shallow fucking bitch in this arc.
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>>128696027
I don't read the comics that much, but from what I've heard about them, he's pretty much a shadow of Sonic, leaning toward the "grouch with a hidden heart of gold" perspective.
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>>128696027
We haven't really even gotten a clear look at Game!Shadow's current characterization yet.
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>>128696693
Is that the arc where Blaze says her universe is going to die without the Sol Emeralds but Rouge wants to keep it anyway because it's pretty?
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>>128698012
Yes.
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>>128698012
Yes. That and I think GUN ordered her to get it
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>>128698130
Now if Rouge said she had her orders and that Blaze was bluffing then I could understand her wanting to keep it. I mean far as I know her and Blaze have never really interacted before, so she'd have no idea about Blaze's character or that she's even a princess, especially considering that Blaze is from another zone entirely.

But fuck that, the gem is pretty, so fuck yo universe.
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>>128698347
Yeah but Amy and Cream were with her. Surely she would find those 2 trustworthy, right?
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>>128698370
I want that statue.
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>>128698482
To do what with?
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>>128690907
That looks cute and painful
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>>128698510
H O T
O
T

G L U E
L
U
E
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>>128698370
Sonic Federation Force comfirmed
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>>128698464
Has Rouge interacted with those two that much?
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>>128698464
I don't think she met Cream before that point. Maybe she met Amy but I forget
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>>128698482
Get in line faggot
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>>128698510
To display in my living room maybe? Probably use his finger as a coat hanger or something
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>>128697559
Whatever happened to all the Shadow Androids, anyway?
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>>128698983
Presumably Omega and Shadow scrapped them all.
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>>128694679
Too edgy. Borderline self-parody, but that would make sense considering the genre of the show.
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>>128698983
>you will never have a malfunctioning Shadow Android as a best friend
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>>128698347
>so she'd have no idea about Blaze's character or that she's even a princess
GUN has their sources.
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>>128699818
>"Because you just told me, cat girl."
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>>128694942
I still like Knuckles Briefs the best.
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>>128700134
>that short with monitors in Mad Space
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>>128698570
>>128698578
She met Amy in Sonic Adventure 2 and interacted with her more in Sonic Battle. Cream won in a race against Rouge and Shadow in Sonic Free Riders.
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>>128700807
But did either of those games happen in the pre-reboot canon by that point?
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>>128698012
Rouge is a cunt, so I'm not surprised.
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>>128701068
I don't think Battle was adapted and Free Riders didn't come out for another 3 plus years
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>>128694942
>still waiting for SEGA Shorts, Casino Calamity, and Vector's Knickers
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>>128701068
Oh. Well, no. They didn't really interact before this point.
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>>128701068
Oh. Well, no. They hadn't really met before at that point. I thought you were talking about the games.
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>>128703065
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>>128698012
>>128698347
People always seem to ignore the part where Rouge has doubts and says to herself that if Blaze isn't lying, it makes things much more complicated.
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>>128703065
Would Bump make a good mom?
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>>128703816
I don't think so. I imagine her being very absent minded
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>>128700134
>We are Heavy and Bomb. We love you Knuckles.
>Why does Knuckles not love us?

>>128700625
>That's just maddeningly unhelpful!
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>>128704028
>CUZ EVERY NIGHT I WILL SAVE YOUR LIIIIIIFE
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>>128704518
You're grounded.
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>>128704445
Post-Reboot Nicole art is always A+
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjxO7ftF6CY
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>>128703998
>Bump the absent-minded, clumsy deer MILF
>absolutely adores you, and supports you no matter what
>plays vidya and reads comic books with you
>nearly as bad a cook as Sally, so mostly makes sandwiches
>forgets to pack your lunch sometimes, gives you her wallet instead
>everyone in the neighborhood has the hots for her, but she's totally oblivious to anyone except you
>occasionally teases you into helping with chores
>hangs out with Aunt Sage on the weekends
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>>128703481
KILL IT
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Deeper > A Ghost's Pumpkin Soup
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Has any experienced the problem in generations where you should get a trophy/achievement but it doesn't give it to you?
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>>128705636
Deeper > Dive Into the Mellow > Space Trip Steps > A Ghost's Pumpkin Soup > Kick the Rock
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>>128703481
>tfw no bump generations mod
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>>128705805
Only problem I had with Generations was it crashing in Time Attack.
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Why is Silver in Sonic's time period if the events of 06 never happened?
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>>128706325
Reasons.
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>>128706325
Because apparently, if someone so much as steps on a roach, the whole future goes up in flames and it's Crisis City all over again.

Otherwise, we get Onyx City - a (slightly less) bad future ruled by technocratic hooded communists
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>>128706090
The first time I played through the game I restored seaside hill but it didn't give me the achievement. This time on PS3 I got the red star ring at the end of crisis city and it didn't give me the trophy
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>>128707350
Didn't get that issue. That sucks, anon.
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>>128703998
who is this, even
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>>128707610
Not sure who the artist is. If you're referring to Bump, she and Sage are the thread mascots
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>>128707714
If I remember correctly, an anon noticed we posted a piece of art from the artist and told them, and then they drew that for us.
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>>128708008
When do they fuck
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>>128700134
>Sonic: You did it Knuckles! You're way past awesome!
>Knux: WHO THE HELL DO YOU THINK I AM?!

Damn Son Where'd You Find This?.mp4
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>>128703998
>mfw birthday thread
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>>128707714
ye I meant Bump, but ahh cool. I haven't been a part of this thread long enough to know.

Haven't seen Sage yet tho
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>>128708558
>Haven't seen Sage yet tho
Now you have
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>>128708558
Bump
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>>128706737
Reminder that the City Council really only has power over Onyx City and it is not indicative of the world as a whole. Everywhere else could be better.

It's probably worse.
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>>128708746
I wonder where Eggman Nega fits into all this...is he a perceived threat in Silver's future, or has he fucked off and is screwing around with the multiverse?
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>>128710818
Oh yeah, the Maria recolor.
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>>128710818
>Shadow will never have his human waifu
it hurts
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>>128710818
Good god I find that episode so hilarious.

In the 4kids dub she just flies off into space never to be seen again yet in the next scene they airbrushed out her grave but not it's fucking shadow.

In the japanese version though she just straight up fucking dies and shadow buries her.

I don't know why the 4kids edit just fucking cracks me up.
Maybe i'm a bad person.
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>>128710818
>>128711046
>Maria: Dead
>Molly: Dead
>Hope: Wiped from existence
I fear for every human female Shadow encounters.
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>>128711046
>>128711278
They'll always live on in our dreams.

And fanon.
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>>128708714
I want to pump Bump's plump rump
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>>128713959
Do you think Sage gets jealous of the attention Bump gets?
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>>128714535
She's probably too tired to care, most of the time.

Though, I can't help but wonder...If Bump has rump, what does Sage have?
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>>128715026
>If Bump has rump, what does Sage have
Crippling self esteem issues and hatred of everyone around her
>>128697559
Wasn't there something about that in the Japanese version of Rise of Lyric
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>>128715026
She hides some mean sweater puppies.
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>>128715294
>Wasn't there something about that in the Japanese version of Rise of Lyric
IIRC, they kept the mind-controlled plot point in the Japanese version.
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>>128715376
He was mind controlled in the in-game Archie comic too. Looks like SEGA got their wires crossed. Again.
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>>128715351
Mega Milk Sage, when?
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>>128715635
In-game Archie comic was based on the 3DS version. Which had Shadow mind-controlled, so that makes sense.

English Rise of Lyric dropped that plot point and made Shadow edgy for no reason.
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>>128716059
Shut it, blue rat.
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>>128716059
I have a waifu, sir, thank you very much!
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>>128715351
>they're just hush puppies she keeps in hidden pockets for when she wants a snack
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>>128695890
that short will always hold up as long as bad OCs like that continue to be made.
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>>128716145
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>>128717609
... That's pretty cool. I have to play this.
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>>128717712
The storybook games are not that good gameplay wise, but great in pretty much every other area, especially story oddly enough. I'd go as far to say that Secret Rings and Black Knight have the strongest stories of any of the games. Oh, and the music is fucking great as always, but especially in Black Knight, with one of the most underrated final boss themes in the franchise
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNsGT2Pjug8
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>>128717609
rat
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>>128717853
I remember getting Sonic and the Secret Rings when I was young for Christmas and I was so disappointed at the gameplay. It wasn't what I was expecting at all.

Story was weird but not bad though.
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>>128717853
I have troubles sitting down to play video games... specially games I haven't played before and even more specially... games that aren't all that great to begin with. But I've been wanting to give them a spin for a while, I might get a kick out of the character interactions, which I love and desperately need more of.
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>>128717853

Wasn't a fan of the vocals for the original (The Crush 40 cover isn't so hot either), but based Marty Friedman seriously needs to do more music for video games.
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>>128717853
Maybe it's because I played 06 right before it, I thought the gameplay in Secret Rings was cool.
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>>128716059
Fuck off Sonic, I was watching Tojyo draw Sally and Bunnie.
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>>128720489
TOJO?! RETURN MUH SHINS
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>>128720489
that was some good stuff.
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>>128720828
I KILLED ME FIDDY BADNIKS!
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>>128720828
Dammit, Dad, I told you the Great War never happened! Waitaminute, how are you not Pendered?
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>>128721307
>Cotton Hedgehog doesn't have shins because Penders took them
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>>128721791
Shins (c) Sir Kenneth T. Penders, esq.
ORIGINAL ANATOMICAL COMPONENT, DO NOT STEAL
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>>128721791
They were carcinogenic shins. They had to go.
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Which Sonic character would make the best parent? Which Sonic character would make the worst parent?
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>>128722913
Too bad Underground was erased from reality due to the Super Genesis Wave.
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>>128722735

Vanilla is already a mother, so she probably knows her shit.

Scourge would probably kill the baby in record time. If he didn't, it would be the most hilarious and tragic thing to witness.
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>>128722735
Omega simultaneously fills both.
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>>128722735
ok who drew that picture
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>>128722735
>Which Sonic character would make the best parent?
Vanilla. Cream's surprisingly well balanced for being raised by what we assume is a single mom. Surprised her kid doesn't have diabetes from all the baked goods she makes
>Which Sonic character would make the worst parent?
Locke. It's not even close, though Scourge and Fiona would be a pair of hilariously awful parents
>>128723235
I think it's Evan, but I'm not sure
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>>128722735
Vanilla wins by default as the best parent.

Though NuMax looks like he's up there as well.

Scourge would be a horrible parent. Fiona might be better but only by a tiny margin
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>>128720828
>>128721081
>>128721307
>>128721791
Thinking about this a bit more I just realized that there'd be no Good Hank equivalent in Sonic. I think Ian at the very least implied that roboticized body parts work just like their organic versions when asked how Bunnie had kids in MXYL. Sonic getting a younger sibling that started out partially roboticized and being a constant reminder to their parents of Jules' failure during the great war due to said roboticized parts could have been an interesting dynamic if it was done well.

Although it'd probably be greatly held down by the fact it's in a series about a cartoon hedgehog whom's main ability is traversing at an exceptionally high speed while having a somewhat unruly disposition.
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>>128722735
>Son, I am disappoint
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>mfw I got beat by an old man in this game
> I was 13
>I thought I could beat him because I was younger
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GM8eXSJGBxw
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>>128725578
nice blog scooby doo. now fuck off.
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NO SOULS CAN MAKE IT THROUGH
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>>128706737
Actually, they're still some pretty interesting characters. Who are they and what is their end goal by aggressively pursuing scientific progress and forcing everyone else into compulsory work?

Are they even still alive at the end of Silver Age?
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>>128727234
>Are they even still alive at the end of Silver Age?
Probably destroyed by the Second Devourer after they got stoned
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>>128726909
Here there everywhere, Falls white from the Sky.
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if we're dragging from the bottom of the barrel for new characters to put into the comic, what other stupidly obscure characters do you think will appear?
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>>128727803
>if we're dragging from the bottom of the barrel for new characters to put into the comic, what other stupidly obscure characters do you think will appear?
Not obscure, but Elise. I would not be surprised if she showed up at some point. Other than that, maybe a couple of the remaining characters from SaTAM that aren't present and possibly 1 or 2 more AoSTH characters, but I doubt that'll happen. I can't think of any game characters that are usable that haven't been used yet.
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>>128722735
Best: Probably Vector. He's poor as shit, yeah, but he tries hard and would probably strike a good balance between being supportive, encouraging independence, and being fun.

Worst: Rouge. I have no doubt that she'd "accidently" leave her kids in a car with the windows rolled up on a hot day, whilst giving handjobs in exchange for cocaine in some back alley.
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>>128728025
>I have no doubt that she'd "accidently" leave her kids in a car with the windows rolled up on a hot day, whilst giving handjobs in exchange for cocaine in some back alley.
Are you sure you didn't get her confused with Fiona? Rouge is pretty responsible, and arguably the most mature member of Team Dark. Plus she could probably pull a few strings and get GUN to help pay for raising the kid, if her paycheck won't already.
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>>128727803
The car from Rad Mobile.
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>>128728231
That's actually a better description of what I was going for. She strikes me as the least interested in children of the main cast, but would be more neglectful / irritated than out-and-out abusive. Definitely one to delegate child care to paid help.
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In other news, Sonic the Hedgehog 4: Episode II is back on iOS devices. Anyone wanting to play the game again should do so now.
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>>128722913
God bless Drawlover, but I don't think even she can salvage Sleet and Dingo's designs.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5FW0gXNkco
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2sOpyF1nF4

Robots have the best songs.
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>>128728827
yes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-1cP70zy7k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOS6-5sV89Y
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>>128728760

That Dingo looks like he'd be perfectly ok in Sonic Boom, tho
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>>128728827
>>128729760
I hope Metal Sonic is in the anniversary game.
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Okay, if Mighty and Ray were to be reinvented for the games like the Chaotix, what would be good premises for them?

I see Mighty as a sort of Indiana Jones-type character that, like Sonic, is a roving nomad, but slow and steady as opposed to quick, so he has time to absorb all the details of his surroundings. Therefore he's intimately aware of the lore behind many of the ancient civilizations scattered around Sonic's world.

I can't really see Ray apart from Mighty, but I'm also having trouble seeing a good role for him. I think it's be interesting to have a hero / sidekick relation where the sidekick is young, brash and impatient (basically the reversal of Sonic and Tails), but it's hard to do that without him being annoying or too much like Charmy or Silver. And what special ability would he have? The obvious answer is piloting aircraft, but that would overlap too much with Tails's character.
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>>128728760
IMO, this is the design that comes closest to pulling that off. Still kinda busy compared to the other characters' designs.
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>>128731348
Dingo looks like a Crash Bandicoot reject.
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>>128731486
He'd fit right into Boom then.
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>>128730981
You're already making Mighty a bit like Knuckles, so you might as well make Ray a bit like Tails.
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>>128729760
Also
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7dnjX92m3o
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>>128716059
Jokes on you! It's Saturday where i am at.
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>>128733828
It can't be gone if it never existed.
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>>128733828
>>128734090
How do Mobians reproduce?
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>>128734170
Storks
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>>128734170
According to Sega's legal mandates, most of them don't.
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>>128734170
Budding
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>>128734170

They kiss so passionately that a new mobian babby pops out of a hole in the ground nearby.
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>>128727314
>>128727234
The dialogue suggests everyone assumes they're alive...for some reason.
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>>128708637
Wonder if she smells of moss. Don't sloths grow moss because they're so fucking slow?
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>>128708637
Isn't Sage supposed to want to sleep all the time, yet we don't have a pic of her sleeping?
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>>128736750
Why do you think she looks miserable in every picture?
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>came back from watching Genesis
>Sonic just took down more than half of Mexico

based Komo
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>some guy posting as big on /v/
What are the chances that it's Aaron?
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>the Shattered World/Unleashed adaptation is coming to an end!
>now they can finally do original stories!

So um...am I reading the same book as everyone else? What exactly do they think is going to be a big change after this? Why are they acting like having Unleashed as an excuse to world hop is somehow PREVENTING other stories from happening? Last I checked, the Unleashed wasn't about underwater cities, ruin nerds on Angel Island, deer sisters in a bad place, fake heroes in Shamar, walrus dad drama, old men who can't get over their dead daughters, Shadow fighting Black Arms spinoffs, Bunnie being badass, Silver hanging out with an absentminded professor, Blaze and Amy fighting a pirate Metal Sonic, Omega picking on a small gizoid, Breezie running a casino, the Chaotix going to Pumpkin Hill, Tikal doing ANYTHING....

People keep saying "Oh good, now we can get different stories" when we've already had several...so WTF are they expecting to change?
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>>128730981
>>128731742
It looks like a gotta bring this up. Mighty already a pretty well thought personality which I really hope Sega keeps if they bring him back.
>In the video games, Mighty is described as gentle and caring pacifist, only using his strength and fighting abilities when there is no other option. He loves to travel, and his dream is to journey to all places of the world. According to the Japanese manual of Knuckles' Chaotix, Mighty enjoys forest bathing, likes peace and nature, and detests violence.

As for Ray... I imagine a little bit of a Luigi-thing with him. He seemed to be easily frighted in SegaSonic.
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>>128734170
They lay eggs.
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>>128738119
Kind of seems a bit too early for Unleashed to end already though. Fucking worlds unite and delays kept on getting in the way so it makes it seem longer than it actually is. Maybe I'm behind, at what point in Unleashed were they at in the comic the last time it actually released something?
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>>128738828
Are you ready for another crossover?
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>>128738902
What the fuck does that have to do with anything? It just feels like they haven't gotten that far in unleashed to me but they're apparently ending it already. So I'm wondering if I'm behind on the comic.
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>>128738234
Mighty sounds so chill.
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>>128738828
We've got at LEAST eight months to go here.
The game is just the backdrop, they aren't following the plot exactly. They got all seven chaos emeralds as of #279 and have two or three Gaia Keys.
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>>128738976
>but they're apparently ending it already.

...over half a year away, what the fuck are you on about.
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>>128738828
Senpai said it was ending before 300.

>Fucking worlds unite and delays kept on getting in the way
That sort of thing seems to happen a bunch for Senpai.
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>>128738989
I like to think when Mighty sees no other option but to fight he's a force to be reckoned with.
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>>128739103
My sense of time must be fucked. It really does seem like yesterday all of this was starting then "lol crossover".
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>>128739103
>>128739280
It doesn't feel half a year to me either.
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>>128739103
How many months have had a comic release that was about the unleashed arc?
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WHERE'S EGGMAN'S DOZEN?!
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>>128739875
Dead.
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>>128739321
Because we just got solicits for an arc that comes out after an arc that isn't out yet.

SU just wrapped up the Silver Arc (or some are just getting it next week)
after that is four issues of Eggman/Egg Bosses
after that is Knuckles and Amy.

StH just wrapped up Shamar and The Suffering, and we finally got Razor's little story, then we have
Sonic tails and Chip vs Axel
Sally and Rotor doing something
Chun-nan, Dulcy and Conquering Storm
Bunnie and Tails
Knuckles and Mighty (presumably with Amy and Ray)
And then something involving several heroes, Cream doing something, and Phage coming back
And then it's "Panic in the Sky."
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>>128739662
Since the end of Countdown to Chaos?
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>>128740351
Since the planet was broken into pieces.
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>>128740351
That would be 23 months up to this point.
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>>128740632
and that's not including months with Worlds Unite being released or nothing at all because of delays?
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>>128740716
The issue after Countdown was February 2014.

I can't remember delay months, but just subtract 3 if you don't want to count WU.
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>>128738119
They're just using it as a roundabout way to complain about those stories.
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4 to 5 more days until 21/1/16

potential happenings.
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>>128743106
>21/1/16
There are 21 months in a year?
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>>128743106
>21/1/16
In America the day comes first and the month comes second.
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>>128743186
>>128743217

how about you get fucked on go on the metric system you yanks! and while you're at it, stop with the fucking sticks of butter!
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>>128743389
Well, Sonic has the colors of the American flag(red, white, and blue) so he'd agree with us.
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>>128743462
And he sang the US national anthem once too.
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>>128743389
>>128743462
>>128743490
So it would be 1/21/16.
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>>128743638
in your potato world, yes.

just as minutes tick over hours, days tick over weeks, which tick over months. why on earth you yanks put months before days I'll never understand. do you fear it'll bring along communism or something?

anyway, it's 10:40 here and I need to sleep.
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>>128743838
I don't get why you bring up hours and minutes. If time was formatted in a way similar to DD/MM then it would be min:hour.
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>>128722735
>Best?
Nu Max or Vanilla or both

>Worst?
Tails you already know what I was going to say

>>128723235
Anon from here

>>128740056
>Bunnie and Tails
FUCKING
NEVER
E
V
E
R

I hate delays
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>>128748346
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>>128750296
no
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So, fans are making the archie version of STCO now.
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>>128753041
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>>128753136
why
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>>128725748
>Disrespecting Scooby-Doo
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Time for a game, faggots. The last thing you played/watched/read is now crossed over with Sonic. How good or bad is it?
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>>128743838
>why on earth you yanks put months before days I'll never understand.

The month comes before the day because we usually say January 16th instead of the 16th of January.
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>>128695364
AH-HA!
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>>128754528
Oh shit, that's rather cute.
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>>128753041
w-why
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>>128754528
>Played?
CS:GO You play as G.U.N Soldier against Eggman's robots

>Watched?
DBS and nothing changes

>Read?
Advanced physics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHp6CP1zCe4

>>128757958
because I say so
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>>128754528
>Played
Dragon's Dogma. I can compete escort quests and traverse the map at sonic speeds. Homing attacks to the dragon's heart and knocking Harpie and Griffons out the air.

>Watched
Osomatsu-san. An comedy about 8 sonic characters and their daily NEET adventures where they grow to understand each other a bit more.

>Read
Tomboy.
Just replace the main character with Amy and the dead boyfriend with Sonic. Done.
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>>128754528
>Played
Fallout 4. I imagine it'd be something like pic related.

>Watched
Star Trek: TNG. Aw crap, it's the Dark Ages all over again.

>Read
Sonic fanfiction. Skimmed through a couple of those silly stories about Maria coming back as a Hedgehog and getting with Shadow. Nothing changes.
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>>128754528
>played
Don't remember.
>watched
The Joy of Painting. Sonic's lessons are too fast, even in slow motion, to get anything out of.
>read
See played.
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>>128753136
That actually looks better than penders
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/sthg/ holiday when?
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>>128763138
I still want a sleepover with some anons from here.
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>>128763138
>"Guess Eggman learned his lesson, yep.

>"And maybe I'll take another vacation somewhere..."
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Ohh shit nigger, F4F Silver statue
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>>128764571
>inb4 300 dollarydoos
Fucksake, I'm not made of money.
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>>128764827
Organs are worth a pretty penny, anon
>>
http://www.tssznews.com/2016/01/16/weston-super-sonic-2016-f4f-sonic-25th-anniversary-silver-statues-revealed/

http://www.sonicstadium.org/2016/01/johnny-gioeli-launches-pledge-music-campaign-for-solo-album/
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Weston Super Sonic is LIVE here
http://www.twitch dot tv/thesonicshow
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>>128764571
>>128766147
Blaze when
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>>128766368
>why can't I hold all these merchs
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>>128764571
it's no use
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>>128766368
And it's over
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Soon.
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This is an official character render of Amy for the fan-favourite game Sonic The Hedgehog 2006.

What is up with that pink rectangle near her foot?
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>>128769772

Looks like her leg clipped through her boot because spaghetti limbs.
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>>128770267

bravo sega
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>>128693485
SILVER SHOULD BE FLOATING
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>>128770267
Can't unsee
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>>128771660
He's cuter like that
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>>128764571
Is it e or does he have the 06 design. He looks way too thin
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>>128772163
Shit, I didn't notice, he really does look super thin.
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>>128769772
I think it for Shadow the Hedgehog, not fan-favourite Sonic 06
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>>128772163
No, he's always had thin arms.
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>>128775462
heh. Creepy to think she can detach them at will like that. I always thought they were more like a permanent exoskeleton-type deal.
>how does robotisation work in that universe anyway?
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>>128776390
i think they're permanently attached, that pic is probably a joke.
>how does robotisation work in that universe anyway?
I always just assumed it replaced both the outer and inner components of the body with robotics. It was used to stop Jules from succumbing to his wounds after all
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>>128776390
Post-reboot it wasn't roboticization, it was amputating her fucked up limbs and replacing them with cybernetics. Basically legionization, just without the Legion.
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>>128776390
>>128776734

In the old Sonic comics she could remove them at will.
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>>128776390
I don't think it's ever been fully explained.

In the pre-reboot Comic continuity, Bunnie was roboticized from the waist down, had her original legs scrapped during the Dark Ages, but was still able to bear children as seen in MXYL Timeline. Meanwhile, you have Eggman (Robo-Robotnik 2.0) - Who was able to survive countless "deaths" log after his original body had perished, before being made human again by aliens.
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>>128776390
>how does robotisation work in that universe anyway?


I assume whichever body part got hit became robotic inside and out. So removing her parts for any reason wouldn't really hurt her. After all it was made to make sure Jules didn't die and other mobians as well.
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>>128777102
Oh yeah, kind of forgot about that detail
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>>128772927
look at his body, it's long and thin like in 06
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>>128776939
No, they were roboticized first and replaced with prosthetics later.
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>>128764571
Could Silver be in the anniversary game?
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>>128769021

Here come the Hyper Emeralds
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>>128777235
It should also be noted that Bunnie and Antoine's children were also cyborgs. Whether they were born this way, or had their limbs replaced early on in life is never touched upon.
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>>128778039
I think Ian implied that roboticized organs preform all the same function as their fully organic counterparts. And then just left it at that for people to figure things out for theirselves.
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>>128778039
I like to think they were conjoined twins, or just they didn't develop the limbs right because of Bunnie's issues.
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>>128778039
Remember how Tracy made concept art for these guys (and the anti FFs) and the colorist just threw it in the bin and made them exact clones instead?
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>>128780541
Wait what? Source?
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>>128780290
Oh ho ho! Fascinating~

>>128780541
Sauce?
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>>128780627
Shit, I don't have it anymore. But it's why all their colors abruptly changed at one point. Like Jaques was supposed to be yellow and white wearing white and blue and Belle was supposed to be brown with a red tank top, but Jensen or whoever colored them the same as Bunnie and Twan. For the anti FFs he made ant-Rotor's cybernetics gold but they ended up being generic grey and then for some reason he gave Miles grey hair.
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>>128780627
>>128781054
Not him, but try Tracy's DA, I think he has some of the pieces there and you can see where they don't match up. Plus Jacques and Belle suddenly changed pallettes partway through the story.

This was the same colorist who made the red Chaos Emerald green even though the green one was already accounted for.
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>>128780627
Compare with >>128778039
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>>128769021
>spikes not normal
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>>128782586
Best super robot
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>>128780290
That's not hard to believe, considering the Roboticizer's original application was that of a medical device.

It was designed to heal the sick and allow the elderly to live longer, so it would make sense that roboticized organs retain the same basic functionality of the original...reproduction included.

Though, I doubt Chuck's endgame would've called for complete roboticization of every specimen, unless of course they were terminally ill, on the verge of death. Eggman was just loony.
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>>128782586
Could Metal ever go super?
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>>128783578
>I doubt Chuck's endgame would've called for complete roboticization of every specimen

From what I remember, it was Robotnik who first thought of and tried the idea of "Lets see what happens when we stick an entire person in here and turn it on". But I do not remember all the details.
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>>128784260
That might have been with Jules, because his wounds were so extensive. I feel like he was the first one to be completely roboticized.
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>>128753136
Gross.
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>>128784740
>I feel like he was the first one to be completely roboticized.

He was the first test subject at all. Chuck was testing his invention in a bid to save his brother's life.
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>>128753136
Not surprising, I'll probably check it out at some point. Though, they probably need to wait for LHT chapter 2 coming never.
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>>128778039
How rough do you think Bunnie is in bed?
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>>128786572
As much as her partner wants, no more.
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>>128753136
Interesting. Might check this out sometime, but really I'll just wait for more LHT
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>>128786572
It's probably like smashing your junk into an old Alice Chalmers.
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>>128778039
I hate everything about those two. They're all that's wrong about "future" stories.
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>>128786572
She's gone through at least 3 beds
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>>128753136
I brought this up several threads ago and nobody noticed.
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>>128753136
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>>128786572
probably depends on how rough you want it.
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>>128753136
Is there more to this, or is it just a cover? If it's just a cover, I don't know why some are freaking out. It looks fine.
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>>128753136
Nigga writing/running it literally judges arcs based on their cover art.
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>>128787735
Yeah there is a little intro comic. Currently they merged with another group and are testing people out with sample scripts
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>>128787735
It's an actual comic, and nobody's freaking out. It's just not that good so far (Like taking away Zobotnik's whole schtick to make Sally the leader)
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>>128786572
clang isn't for the faint of heart
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>>128787353
You alright, Anon?
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>>128787916
>taking away Zobotnik's whole schtick to make Sally the leader

That's enough to tell me it's going to be complete garbage.
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>>128787964
He does have a point. They're pretty lazily designed, and MXYL isn't even that good
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>>128787916
storytime?
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>>128787353
such as?
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>>128787735
The cover may be fine and they might occasionally get someone that's decent to do pencils for the actual pages, but someone's gonna have to write the script and I can guarantee that the chances of them getting someone with enough sense to do it well is slim.
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>>128788096
Not him. But since it's very short. I'm going to do it this one time.
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>>128789104
Here we go
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>>128789104
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>>128789104
Not one page in and I'm already irritated.
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>>128789104
>Storytime
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>>128789335
Here's Zally.
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>>128789532
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Anyone collect Sonic figures here? Whats your favorite piece of merch?
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>>128788068
he was just the warden tho
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>>128789532
>egglactus
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>>128789701
>>128789820
Plus it would be kinda weird having an Eggman be the leader of something like the Zone Cops.
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>>128788965
I hope they can at least get something decent/readable, then. I'd love to see a continuation of the pre-reboot world.
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>>128789978
The original story had fucking HawkHawk and the Silver Snively, that was the least of its problems
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>>128790001
>>128790086
Would Ken Possible try to sue this project?
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>>128790001
>retarded cosmic mumbo jumbo fuckery
So much for this being good.
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>>128790001
That's what I liked about it. An Eggman that was good but not a slackjawed faggot like Moebius Eggman in charge of the zone cops was great I thought. Plus the No-Zone was always smaller than the other zones, there's not really much to it beyond the jail.
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>>128790001
uniform sally pretty cute
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>>128790221
And we're done and the gang is back. Do you guys love or hate it so far? Or is it something in between?
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>>128790489
It's really meh
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>>128790264
Zobotnik wasn't in charge of the zone cops though. Just prison.
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>>128790489
Too small a sample size to judge, especially if there will be other writers, but it's not bad.

The potential of it wants me to keep an eye on it, though.
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>>128790625
Yeah, it's like a Warden being in charge of the police force.
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>>128790489
Unremarkable, but not total festering garbage.

I'm interested to see what might become of it in the future. I'll keep an eye on it.
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>>128790489
I can't read the fucking text in it.
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>>128790948

Wow that is cute
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>>128790264
We don't even what the No-Zone has beyond it's police/prison duties. Going by the issue where Sonic brought in Scourge they look to have a functional, futuristic society. Plus, they also seem to have a lot of land like other a general Mobius going by the backgrounds with the Scourge breakout arc.
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>>128789104
>>128789335
>>128789532
>>128789701
>>128790001
>>128790221
>>128790489
What a disappointment. But I didn't really expect anything other than it to be one.
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>>128790489
>500x641
I can hardly read the text.
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>>128791361

Well, it's not like WFT wears shoes.
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>>128791069
>>128791764
Yeah, they need to fix that.
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>>128791069
>>128791764
>>128791902
This is a test for the ones that are hard to read. My not work since some of the text seems kinda weird.
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>>128792454
It's like they made the boxes without thinking about how much text they were gonna have. It's all scrunched up.
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>>128792454
I can't believe I'm doing this for you guys. One more page after this.
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>>128792902
That would be fault on the writer for not planning properly and not communicating with the penciler.
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>>128793120
Okay, I've done my part. If this project ever updates someone else can post if we all care enough.
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>>128753136
This isn't even the only version fans have made.
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>>128794284
That's something entirely different. According to the creator, that's just a comedy thing in the No Zone
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>>128794284
I heard about this. Zhadow is suppose to be a sleazy lawyer.
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>>128794284
>Blaze smiling open mouthed
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Should we rename ourselves to SEGA general?
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>>128794647
Nah. The majority of our discussion is Sonic
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>>128794284
That isn't a continuation like the other. Just something Chauvels is doing.
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>>128794647
Nah.
Everything else that isn't Yakuza is too dead in the west
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This is the first time I have been here in months. Anything interesting happen?
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>>128794901
No.
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>>128794901
Besides some news, not really
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>>128794901
Adventure 3 is happening
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>>128794647
Why did Tommy have a grave when his body was blown to pieces leaving nothing behind?
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>>128795008
It's not.
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>>128794901
Archie holding a comic just out of reach.
Vague Sonic anniversary hints.
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>>128794901
>>128795008
With Sticks too!
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>>128795032
It's a symbolic thing
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>>128795070
we'll find out on 21/1/16 won't we?
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>>128795070
Oh yeah?
http://www.tssznews.com/2012/07/23/four-sonic-adventure-3-domains-registered-by-someone/
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>>128795160
1/21/16.
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>>128795260
Don't start that shit again, Pedoskunk
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>>128795160
We sure will.
>>128795260
That proves absolutely nothing. That could just be some random preemptively registering domains to leech money off of SEGA by making them buy it from them if they want it.
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>>128795260
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>>128795260
That was awhile ago, mate.
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>>128795260
2012/07/23 is in the fucking URL, will you just stop embarrassing yourself.

I mean, find another URL at the very least.
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>>128794284
I trust Chauvels to make something better than what got posted above.
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we need something to argue about
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>>128796551
Alright. Here's one. Which is better? Adventure style gameplay or Boost gameplay
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>>128796624
Boost.
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>>128796624
Boost
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>>128796624
Adventure. End of discussion.
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>>128788146
>Our kids are us, but with very slight changes.
>The exact children or the heroes end up as the next set of heroes, 1:1. No new characters allowed and no introduced child is allowed to not take part.
I can keep going.
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>>128796624
Boost with the ability to actually move at slow speeds like Adventure.
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>>128796624
Neither.
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>>128796821
That's not what he asked.
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>>128796624
Parkour
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>>128796624
Boost gameplay relies on speed and acceleration, and is geared specifically to Sonic and Sonic alone.

Adventure uses more platforming gimmicks but has versatility to accommodate multiple playstyles.
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>>128796624
Boost is more fun.
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>>128796624
Adventure
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>>128796624
In theory, Adventure. In execution, Boost.
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>>128796551
Blue arms or tan arms?
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>>128796904
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>>128797371
Both.
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>>128797371
yellow
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>>128789803
A few I've received as gifts over the years. Have a Sonic from the DC days and a Jazware Sonic with a broken arm (drew some scars and an eyepatch in him for shits and giggles). Think I've got a plushie or two somewhere.

Only figure I got myself is the Sonic Nendoroid, which happens to be my favourite. He's great fun to pose with other Nendoroids.

Too bad that there's not really a good middle ground to Sonic figures. You either get Happy Meal tier stuff or expensive as fuck statues from F4F.
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>>128796904
What are you gonna do about it nerd?
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>>128797371
>>128797525
Both
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I've never played Sonic Heroes, but if there's one thing I know, it's that it has a great art-style. I've always been sort of a buff for art-design, graphics, and stuff like that, and Heroes just does it for me. It takes the aesthetic of the Genesis games and makes it more realistic and natural for the Modern character-designs, something that Lost World completely fails at doing, a game that just creates environments that not only look miles more artificial than the Genesis games, but are also incredibly simplistic and generic.

I would personally want a Sonic game to follow the art-style of Heroes and improve it by having it just as detailed and natural, but also having it resemble the Genesis games even more by doing things like having even more of those iconic geometric patterns. Like, there's not just checkerboards, but there's also striped grass here and there, those patterns on the terrain in Mushroom Hill Zone could show up for a level, and those huge, colorful flowers would also be in the game, but it would all be in Heroes' amazing art-style of abstract realism. Blocky environments can also be done, like how the jungle levels in Adventure 2 handle it: They exist, but they're not as prevalent as the Genesis games, and once again, look very natural and rugged.

As for the problem of normal-looking buildings versus futuristic-looking buildings, the cities should just look like actual cities, but with the futuristic buildings towering over the modern ones. Problem solved. Also, Heroes' weird hover cars should be redesigned with the general body-shape of '80s cars (like in SA1), but with futuristic, high-tech-looking elements to them.

The realistic background animals are very strange and creepy, so I would redesign them, too, and have them in the same style as the flickies and other capsule animals. (ALA, the Sonic style.)

Comment continued in next post.
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>>128789532
>>128789701
>lol we retconned the FFotG Universe to being dead because it was convenient for the narrative.

>>128790001
>lol the new Universe just separated itself, everything's fine!

This shit's the laziest way you could possibly reconcile an ongoing Pre-boot and the reboot coexisting.
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>>128796624
Boost

>>128797371
Tan
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>>128797670
I'll fucking cough on you
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>>128797773
If there are humans other than Eggman shown, they should also actually be designed like Sonic characters, something that Sonic Team has never bothered to do outside of Billy Hatcher of all things.

One last thing: The character-models shouldn’t be shiny like in Heroes. The amount of detail on the Sonic Boom models is perfect, and that’s what I’m thinking of here.

[insert ending statement here]
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I don't have a scanner, and we already know what happened, but here you go.
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>>128798164
You're pretty cool anon
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>>128797943
>If there are humans other than Eggman shown, they should also actually be designed like Sonic characters
Agreed
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>>128797773
Wasn't Heroes style done in response to some not liking Adventure's style? Or am I thinking of something else?
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>>128798164

>>128798197
Well, I had to go to WalMart today anyway. At least Archie can still get their stuff in grocery stores, even if they delay everything else people want to buy.
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>>128798164
>>128798370

STORYTIME
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>>128798370
What if Ahklut was the pirate captain and ordered Razor to be disposed of?
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>>128798370
I have never seen a comic in a grocery store before.
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>>128798295
I think it was, and they did a near-perfect job.

>>128798218
I was actually thinking of that drawing when I made that specific part of the post, and I have a cropped version that I use sometimes to demonstrate what I'm talking about when I say that humans can work perfectly in the Sonic universe.
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>>128798539
What stores do you go to?
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>>128798370

>>128798539
Archie always puts their digests by check out lines like the gossip magazines. That said, this was the only issue I saw of Sonic, so unless there're a ton of Sonic fans in this tiny town, they probably don't stock much.
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>>128798512
would be interesting. We know almost next to nothing about him, especially post-reboot
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>>128798539
Checkout isles.
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>>128798679
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>>128797696
I can see how Iizuka could not stand to look at Boom's concepts when BRB showed them to him.
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>>128797793
They shouldn't have done it at all and just pretend Eggman didn't mess up everything in WC or just act like the Genesis wave didn't happen at all. This is almost like a Ken Penders type storytelling.
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>>128798595
>they did a near-perfect job
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>>128799017
He's implying Heroes had the best art style in the 3D games.
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>>128798895
And that's it.
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>>128799197
Thanks anon
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>>128798901
I don't blame the guy. For all the shit we give Iizuka, at last he has a head on his shoulders, which can't be said about Big Red Button Entertainment.
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>>128799017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wg-R_qppR4o
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>>128799197
Thanks for the Storytime.
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>>128798901
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>>128799191
That's not unleashed and he would be wrong regardless. Just looking at Heroes reminds me of Adventure but if they made him look more like he did in the Genesis games. It's gross.
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>>128799271
>at last he has a head on his shoulders
I wouldn't go that far to say that about him, or anyone else at SEGA, but I will admit he did kind of help dodge a bullet there.
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And here's a Boom coloring page, because why not.
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>>128799271
It's not the character designs we blame Iizuka for. It's everything else.
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>>128799420
>he would be wrong regardless
>opinions can be wrong
>"my opinions are facts"
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>>128799535
Go color it right now, anon. And you better make sure his arms are tan.
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>>128799271
From what I understand, BRB was a bunch of art people that were let go from Naughty Dog. If they were actually people that did the programming, gameplay, etc it probably would have been better.
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>>128799596
For all aesthetic purposes, it's objectively worse than something like Unleashed. I couldn't care less what he likes better, so keep your panties on.
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>>128799762
BRB was made up of people from Naughty Dog, Heavy Iron, Luxo Flux and High Impact Games.

And Chris Senn too, from Sonic X-treme fame.

Although, a ton of people were let go a few months before the game released.
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>>128799904
>it's objectively worse
I wish my opinions were facts like yours are.
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>>128799197
That is one smug Sonic.
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>>128800081
Oh yeah. The glossy squished bobblehead look from Heroes was so good and not some cartoon reject shit that tried to mix the Adventure style with the Genesis style and resulted in some mish-mashed combination compared to the more moderate and cohesive nature of Unleashed that at least felt like it fit Sonic. But you're just gonna keep cryin about this and that so why am I even bothering.
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>>128799904
I agree with you but calm down with those buzzwords.
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Who would win in a one-on-one fight, Modern Sonic or Boom Sonic?

No assistance from others, no going Super.
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>>128800626
Modern. Boom Sonic is honestly one of the weaker incarnation of Sonic, and doesn't have the experience, skill, or just plain drive Modern Sonic does
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>>128800569
The only "buzzword" I used was objectively and if you think that's a buzzword then you need to go.
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>>128800626
>>128800731
I think the only Sega!Sonic character that would lose to their Boom counterpart would be Amy.
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>>128800541
Not him, but how does Heroes not look like it fits Sonic? Especially if it's, as you say, a combination of modern and classic. Really it looks about the same as Adventure to me, but plasticy.
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>>128801138
Technically he can, but he needs a Hydrodash gate to do so (Or some crap)
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>>128801138
Hearing the Sonic characters drown in Boom was funny.
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>>128801241
>Walk ankle deep into water
>They do a flip, faceplant, and make gurgling noises
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>>128801180
It keeps the huge tubes for arms and legs but it made his torso almost a complete ball again and squished his head. Heroes honestly felt like someone tried to copy Sonic by mish-mashing elements from his whole career up to that point. It's almost parodying itself with how accentuated the style is on his lanky tube-arms. It didn't feel like the style was evolving or growing from Adventure to Heroes, it felt like the person doing concepts's hand slipped while he was drawing and he couldn't fix it. I could go on but I think you got my point.
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>>128800541
Why don't you realize that I don't care about your opinion on the Heroes art-style and am just calling you out on your "Unleashed is OBJECTIVELY better" crap. And yes, "objectively" is a buzzword. You are not looking at the two art-styles from an objective standpoint. You are basing your opinions of them on your personal preferences, and not which one fits Sonic more. In fact, the "objectively better" style here should be Heroes. If you showed anything from Unleashed to someone who's never played it, they wouldn't know that what they were looking at was from a Sonic game. Sonic Heroes looks leaps and bounds more like a Sonic game, with checkerboard terrain and places like Casino Park that you would only find in the Sonic universe.
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>>128799503
>>128799541
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>>128802047
So you're just bitching for the sake of bitching because you can't control yourself?
Also, copying shit from older Sonic games does not make the actual style any more Sonic-like, you dunce. Keep quiet.
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>>128802483
Please explain how Unleashed's art-style looks more like a Sonic game. I would love to hear.
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Both art styles are shit. There, stop fighting.
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Can we all just admit that all the styles kinda suck in general?
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>>128802753
Fuck you, let them argue points.
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>>128802868
How?
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>>128802868
Except Sonic CD.
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>>128801093
Not really. Boom!Amy is only good with her hammer, and can't even spin. Meanwhile, Sega!Amy can do a Spin Dash, Spin Attack, and Homing Attack. She can even defend herself without her hammer, as seen in Sonic Battle.
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>>128803069
GET FUNKY GET FUNKY
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>>128798901
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>>128802141
[laughs] Yesu Commandah, gud boi...defend yo mastah Iizuka-sama.
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>>128802868
No. I'd say Unleashed, Heroes, and the classic games had great artstyles that each did what they wanted to do and did it well. Unleashed did a decent job of mixing real life locales with Sonic characters, Heroes did a decent job of bringing the Classic aesthetics into the modern games while giving it a touch of realism, and the Classic games had a great mix of sci fi, fantasy, and realism that made it stick out from other platformers of the time, especially CD, which did a good job of making Little Planet seem more "alien" than Mobius and it felt really "trippy" if that's a good way to describe it.
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>>128803225
>[laughs]
>gud boi
Stop.
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>>128803137
Why do westerners like to shit all over the superior art style of Sonic and make their own garbage designs?
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>>128803053
It's Sonic. Everything sucks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsEOIpXNyzI
Would you a Sonic game with a soundtrack by Reel Big Fish? They were/are more 90's than Crush 40.
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>>128803302
If only Unleashed and Heroes were good games.
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>>128803137
Heh, I remember people think he was actually reacting like that when someone first posted that screencap.
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>>128802726
Easy. Sonic for one is actually proportional and feels like an actual evolution of the original and Adventure styles without being a disgusting abomination like Heroes or 06. The lush and beautiful environments and drab technological cities harken back to the theme of nature vs technology of the original games while giving the player a sense of actual adventure like they were actually traveling a planet instead of bouncing around a pinball table in the sky.
Now if we're talking locations, Heroes does harken back to the days of the Genesis but it feels too disconnected and not like it could actually be a part of the world you're in. Every location in the Genesis games felt like it could exist together all the others in that world. Heroes not so much. It's just a knock-off of what the Genesis games tried to do in that regard. Unleashed was pretty much entirely new places but still carried the spirit of Sonic, at least partially so, and even then Eggmanland felt like many of the other places he had created up until that point. Now fuck yourself.
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>>128803137
Couldn't resist
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>>128802868
No.
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>>128803782
>nature vs technology
Anon, no.
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>>128803314
>It's Sonic. Everything sucks.
It makes me sad to that the Genesis games, a series of genuinely-amazing classics, are regarded as complete shit by mentally-inept fourteen-year-olds who can't actually learn how to play video games as a result of being raised on QTE-non-gameplay-cancer and mobile bullshit that rewards them with instant gratification for nothing, and that these are the people who's opinions the next generation after them will look up to.
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>>128803828
>yfw Classic Superiority
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>>128804012
Sonic is only as good as his latest game.
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>>128804012
I don't how anyone can feel satisfaction from games like that. Games even rewards you nowadays for starting it.
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>>128803883
>hurr I'm going to ignore Sonic 1,2, 3&K, and CD
It's not just a coincidence that everything is peaceful and beautiful in the natural areas and dark and shitty in the more technological areas that were built by a man using technology to rule the planet. It's almost as blatant as the nature vs technology theme in Crash Bandicoot.
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>>128804023
I can't help it, classic is way past cute.
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>>128804323
>I don't how anyone can feel satisfaction from games like that.
Because getting patted on the back and being told you've done a great job is satisfying for people, but putting in effort to earn that is hard, so now you don't have to put in effort and you get to feel good, so everyone wins. Except dumbing it down isn't satisfying, it's just sad.
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>>128804504
>This kind of mentality is why trash like SatAM was made.
Anon, please stop.
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>>128804612
It's like treating someone like they won the NBA just by picking up the Basket Ball.
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>>128804012
I'm more upset that everyone assumes all Sonic games should be 100% fast and think 1 and CD suck since they aren't very focused on fast.

I'm also disgusted that 2 always gets a pass on its mediocre level design just because you can spindash your way to victory through 7/8 of the game.
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>>128804641
It doesn't matter if satam came from the basic analysis of the theme of the old games, it's fucking child-level observation that you're acting like isn't true. Are you having a giggle?
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>>128804832
>I'm more upset that everyone assumes all Sonic games should be 100% fast and think 1 and CD suck since they aren't very focused on fast.
Or says they're all shit because you can't go fast all the time and have to do actual platforming at points. Also I don't know why, but I enjoy 2 more than 3&K, but 3&K is obviously a better game
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>>128804641
There's a huge difference between acknowledging that Sonic has a general theme of Eggman being similar to negligent capitalists harming the world without thinking about it/ the forces of nature neutralizing harmful industrialization when it grows out of control and SatAM going full retard and thinking Sonic's part of some grassroots movement to stop the evil Mecha Hitler from polluting the world because he likes doing that or some shit.
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>>128797831
Gross!
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>>128804856
You don't see the games promoting a bunch of hippie nonsense like Awesome Possum. Tails uses a fucking Biplane.
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>>128805082
I like seeing Sonic sick.
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>>128804990
2's the most fun to replay on a whim because it's the easiest, most broken, and most accessible.

1 requires more practice and isn't nearly as easy to cheese, CD is a series of puzzle-platforming labyrinths, and 3K is more nuanced.
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>>128805173
You are missing the point on a cosmic level. Stay out of shit when you have no idea what's being discussed.
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>>128804832
>2 always gets a pass on its mediocre level design
Please explain, I didn't think any level in that game was particularly mediocre.
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>>128805303
I know you are but what am I?
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>>128805173
Not that anon but
>If it's not shoved in my face it doesn't exist at all
>A biplane the same as factories horribly fucking up nature
Also, Sonic CD made a huge point about this. The good futures of all the levels have nature and technology existing harmoniously, and the bad futures have it entirely overrun by technology and it's all bleak and shit. That's pretty damn blunt
>>128805261
Your're probably right
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>>128805228
Sonic is cute even when sick
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>>128805405
ebin
true ebin
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This is Naoto Ohshima, Sonic's original designer. He has a special message he'd like to share.
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>>128805389
The game was not designed with the spindash's capabilities in mind at all. Every single level until Metropolis can be brute forced through the use of the spindash if you're tenacious enough.

In Marble Zone you're eventually fucked if you don't properly learn how to tuck and roll, but in similar situations in Hill Top you can tell the lava to fuck off because you can just spindash to your heart's content as long as you make sure to pick up one more ring. The hazards through most of the game are ultimately ineffective due to your ability to instantly accelerate. CD actually takes the peelout and spindash in mind and build several traps and tricks around punishing players for abusing them.
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>>128805802
Was he the guy who designed a Sonic-like character for some random mobile game?
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>>128805976
Got a picture? Maybe.
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>>128805820
>The hazards through most of the game are ultimately ineffective due to your ability to instantly accelerate
Ok, I see what you mean now. Oddly enough, I've never thought brute force with the spindash though.
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>>128806085
Found it

http://www.sonicstadium.org/2015/05/naoto-oshima-designs-guest-characters-in-terra-battle-someone-looks-familiar/
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>>128805820
Being able to just force it is still a pain in the ass to do though and usually requires more effort than retaining a decent amount of speed.
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>>128806578
ahh well yeah, that's him, as it says.

honestly they look pretty shitty imo
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>>128806597
That's true, but my point was simply that the game has more flawed level design than the other classic games. It's probably the most fun to play, but it's not a particularly well designed game in some aspects.
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>>128806085
Ladies**kek** and gentlemen, introducing, Knack.
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>>128807305
What a shit PS4 game.
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>>128807281
I wouldn't call it flawed when it's an inferior option to just playing the game normally. It's just another option for the player to use. I'd say it makes the game more free.
>>128807305
https://youtu.be/McDXSxH3Sx8?t=154
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>>128736491
Algae grows on their fur. They use it to camouflage themselves and feed their young.

I now want to see Sage stuff algae down Bump's throat.
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>>128803782
First of all, I'm not talking about character-designs. I didn't even know the designs in Heroes were different until you brought it up. I'm only talking about scenery, and with that said, great job on not explaining how Unleashed has the superior art-style at all. I mean, come on. What is all this? "Nature vs. technology" themes? Sense of adventure? Disconnected levels? Spirit of Sonic? This has absolutely nothing to do with art-style in the slightest, not to mention that Heroes DOES feel like an Adventure, just a lot more fast-paced and wild than Unleashed, and it DOES carry the spirit of Sonic, with one reason being the aesthetic, which is what we're supposed to be arguing about here, not all the stuff you just slammed on the table.
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>>128807624
That part with fucking Funky Fanfare is my favorite thing ever.
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>>128808000
>you're wrong because I say so
>What is all this?
What you asked for here:
>Please explain how Unleashed's art-style looks more like a Sonic game
Even then I addressed the character design aspect which you seemed to have skimmed over. You sure showed me with this smart and planned out response. Get out of my face.
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>>128807305
How much do you think he got paid for that?
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>>128809587
The
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>>128809634
deer!
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>>128794647
Would expand the conversation. Place is same shit without storytimes.
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>>128807305
That's a straight up trace
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>>128794647
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>>128794647
I feel like I would be the only one talking about certain franchises, so no thanks.
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Which Sonic character would you cuddle?
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>you're wrong because I say so
If you're talking about this part of my post:
>not to mention that Heroes DOES feel like an Adventure, just a lot more fast-paced and wild than Unleashed, and it DOES carry the spirit of Sonic, with one reason being the aesthetic
Then I'll tell you why I think you're wrong about Heroes not feeling like an adventure, even if Unleashed does do it better.
>Adventure: An unusual and exciting, typically hazardous, experience or activity.
Sonic Heroes has all of this. I honestly don't know what else to say here, and as for Heroes carrying the spirit of Sonic, it absolutely does. I already gave you one reason, the aesthetic, but if you want more I can go on. You travel to all sorts of exciting, physics-defying, fantastical locations on your way to stop Eggman and Metal Sonic while not being afraid of anything that comes your way, coupled with the fast-paced gameplay.
>What is all this?
Is that not a valid point to what you posted? None of that had anything to do with art-style at all.
>Even then I addressed the character design aspect which you seemed to have skimmed over
I skipped it because the design-change is so tiny and minuscule that it doesn't take away the Sonic vibe of the game in the slightest. How does Sonic having a smaller body overpower the fact that the game has a very distinctly "Sonic" art-style? If there was a Mario game with the standard Mario art-style, with Mario himself looking only slightly different to the point where it's barely even noticeable, and a Mario game that took place in a more realistic setting, and Mario looked the same as always, which art-style would be better for a Mario game?
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>>128810518
That's not true.
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>>128812715
This is supposed to be a reply to >>128808361
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>>128812715
Who you quotin' son?
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Bully the Sonic
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>>128813126
Actually I feel like bullying anon
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>>128813263
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>>128813126
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Any last regrets /sthg/?
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>>128813126
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>>128813773
That I didn't go faster
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>>128812715
Copying a previous game's locations at the poor quality it did is nothing more than a soulless knock-off. Why did Seaside Hill have checkerboard dirt? Because Sonic did it before. Why did it have a casino level with the main focus being going through pinball slot games? Because Sonic did it before. etc. etc.
>None of that had anything to do with art-style at all
Except it did and it was specifically aimed at the post that requested it. You can't dismiss it as not important when you fucking asked for it, dickhead.
>with Mario himself looking only slightly different to the point where it's barely even noticeable
Don't you dare act like the change from SA2 to Heroes was only slight. The only game with bigger gross mascot heads and lankier arms is 06. It was quite noticeable since it apparently did the "near-perfect" job of pleasing those that didn't like the Dreamcast era design. It's the same shit as if Mario's arms got fatter and his fat-ass stomach poked out like a beer belly.
At this point you've delved into a level of conversation that I refuse to deal with again. Here shortly it's going to become purely opinionated garbage, not like your posts haven't been nothing but that with no reasoning to go along with it, and borderline semantics. Count this as a win for you or whatever because I don't feel like wasting my time further with someone that thinks the chinese knockoff Sonic design was good.
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>>128813126
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>>128812660
Classic Sonic
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>>128812660
I look at >>128693485 and I just want to do that with every single one of them
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>>128754528
>played
>Civilization V

There are already Eggman Empire and Sol Kingdom civ mods.

>read
>The collected works of H.P. Lovecraft

I think we have our next Storybook game! Or our next outlet for Penders/Lara-Su Chronicles mockery (The Echid'nya from Yuggoth, anyone?)!

>watched
>Adam Ruins Everything

I don't even know, man . . .
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>>128815319
Adam can't ruin what's already ruined.
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>>128815319
>The collected works of H.P. Lovecraft
Hey, I suggested that a while back. I can't remember exactly which characters were going to be which, but I figured bringing back the series' monsters instead of making up more would make more sense.
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>>128750296
The Bump.
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>>128815674
Adam would find a way.

>>128816516
So, let's spitball some Lovecraft-Sonic hybridization, then. The Esoteric Order of Chaos? Tikal Alhazred? Dr. Herbert Robotnik? The Blind Idiot God of Time, Solaristhoth?
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>>128815219
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>>128817028
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>>128817251
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>>128816972
At first, I figured Gerald would be more of the Mad Arab (Mad Czech?) because of his research of the various Lovecraftian whotsits, but Tikal makes more sense. The Time Eater and Dark Gaia are definitely within Elder God territory, while Chaos seems more like a Great Old One.
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>>128817373
Yeah. Chaos does seem more like Great Old One-level. And really, it does seem wrong not to have him as Cthulhu.

And thinking further about Azathoth, we could also bring in his messenger in the form of Mephileshotep, the Crawling Darkness.
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>>128812660
All of them
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>>128817758
I like where this is going. So who would be Hast--er, H-Bomb?
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>>128812660
These two
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>>128817373
>Elder God
>not Outer God
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>>128817932
Well, they call him "Him Who Is Not to Be Named". Therefore, the Big H is one of the characters who got Pendered. Summoning this character results in the end of the universe by way of a lawsuit.
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>>128818582
Enerjak?
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>>128815319
>Civ V
Wish we had more Sonic Civ mods. Would be awesome to play a game with the Kingdom of Acorn, Eggman Empire, United Federation and the Echidna tribes. Shit would be so cash.
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>>128818704
Sure, why not?

You know, I realized that with as many creatures and deities running around that could parallel Cthulhu Mythos entities, Sonic's universe seems like a horrible place to live in.

Show of hands: Who wants to send Penders there and feed him to Chaos or something?
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>>128819198
>Show of hands: Who wants to send Penders there and feed him to Chaos or something?
I wouldn't. The monsters don't deserve to be fed something so foul
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Let's talk about how Sticks isn't crazy and how there's a reasonable explanation for her raving about aliens, government spies, and robots taking over the world.
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>>128819198
Well, seeing as the Mythos and the Sonic series are fictional I hope, sending Penders to "there" would require some sort of metafiction-warping powers that would be better spent on things like curing autism or making infinite chili dogs or something. Ken, for all his obnoxiousness, is better left alone.
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>>128812660
Bump
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>>128819493
Sure. If there the slightest indication that any of those things actually existed in the Boom universe, in the first place.

Well, except the robots...but they're all too stupid to do anything by themselves, anyway.

But seriously, is there even an actual Government? Would be better if Sticks' ramblings weren't entirely baseless, or at least had something to back them up from time to time.
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>>128819493
She would have a field day with Shadow. That guy's been involved in so many conspiracies he should be charging royalties.
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>>128819184
Yes. Unfortunately, the Eggman Empire and Sol Kingdom mods are the only two (as far as I'm aware of, anyway). Nonetheless, here's the links for anyone curious:

>Eggman Empire (G&K or BNW)
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=142574925

>Sol Kingdom (Vanilla)
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=240792323

>Sol Kingdom (BNW)
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=518079873
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>>128820143
>>128820171
What if she's actually talking about the Mainline games?

Wisps
Rouge
Eggman
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>>128820346
DEEPEST LORE
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>>128821043
Did somebody say LORE?
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Would you wear, /sthg/?
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>>128821215
Thanks to Penders, the "present-day" events of Chronicles either happened at the end of the timeline, or they never happened at all. Or Eggman killed Shade, thus explaining her absence.
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>>128822814
>or they never happened at all
I am ok with this.
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>>128822814
Or it just hasn't happened yet.

Timeline ain't perfect, but it's a reasonable substitute to the alternative.
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>>128823421
That's what I meant by "at the end of the timeline". Sorry for not making that clear.
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>>128822641
Not outside, but inside.
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>>128823874
Oh. Pardon my poor reading comprehension. I've been kind of out of it, today.

Here have some cute.
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>>128822814
Didn't one of the SOE Community Managers talk with SOJ about this, and they said Chronicles wasn't canon?
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Ah, here it is.
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>>128824876

So non-canon, they pretty much refuse to acknowledge its existence. You know, 'cause of the failed lawsuit and all.
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>>128824189
Thank you for the cute. Have some grimdark in return.

>>128824876
>>128825160
>>128825241
Well, I gues that's that, then. Looks like Emerl/Gemerl and the Fourth Great Civilization need a new backstory that they'll never get under Pontac and Graff now.
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>>128825394
Damn it. Forgot the second "s" in "guess". I feel like Boom Knuckles.
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>>128692386
Do you think Chao will be with him?
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>>128825394
The Nocturnus Clan/Marauders/Fourth Great Civilization isn't even canon anymore. Who knows where the Gizoid really came from?
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>>128825160
Generations already canonized the Storybook series and probably Rivals, so this list is bullshit.
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>>128825985
Gerald's notes in Battle (seen upon completely re-playing each chapter) mention that the Gizoid was a relic of the Fourth Great Civilization, though they didn't elaborate further on what that civilization was.
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>>128825985
"Fourth Great Civilization" is still canon, but they need a new identity. Nocturnus still might be canon in Archie, but are forever in legal limbo because of Penders.
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>>128825996
He probably forgot about those, I guess.
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>>128826436
I'm fairly certain his post predates Generations, so he's wrong in hindsight.
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>>128825996
>>128826436
>>128826571
Regardless, unless further proof is presented, this is Sega of Japan's official stance on the canonicity of Sonic Chronicles.
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>>128825160
I don't trust SEGA with their own canon anymore (see: "Half-faced moon", "Two Worlds", Eggman Nega's "history", and what anon mentioned here: >>128825996 ), so this list is all hearsay to me.
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>>128826825
>Half-faced moon
They confirmed that the reason the Moon is whole in other games is that Sonic's adventures take place on the opposite side of the world.

>Two Worlds
Aside from seeming pretty bullshit, this isn't Sonic X. There's no indication that humans and members of Sonic's world haven't traveled between worlds before. What exactly contradicts this?

>Eggman Nega's "history"
Iizuka confirmed that he was from the future in the 2012 Sonic Boom event. The official Sonic Boom event endorsed by Sega.

And are you telling me that his entire argument falls apart because he didn't anticipate a one-line reference in one cutscene of a video game?
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>>128825160
Not even SOJ knows what their canon is anymore so why would their lackies from SOA/E know shit?
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>>128827598
What I'm saying is, whatever SEGA considers "canon" isn't exactly concrete, as they've been known to change their minds on many, many things. That statement doesn't hold up with their track record.

We're better off just having our own interpretation of how the events in the games connect with eachother, or following post-reboot Archie to make sense of things.
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>>128827598
>Aside from seeming pretty bullshit, this isn't Sonic X. There's no indication that humans and members of Sonic's world haven't traveled between worlds before. What exactly contradicts this?
Sonic Adventure. If this was the case why does Angel Island exist in the same place as Station Square where humans live?
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>>128827598
>They confirmed that the reason the Moon is whole in other games is that Sonic's adventures take place on the opposite side of the world.
what
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>>128828139
The Moon is conveniently facing the side it wasn't blown up on.
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>>128828139
No, wait. I got that mixed with something else. Apparently, the real reason is just that the Moon's whole side just conveniently faces Sonic at all times.

What >>128828383 said.
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>>128828383
>>128828434
that is still ridiculous but ok
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>>128828062
Because it has mystical properties due to the Master Emerald?
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>>128828613
That makes no sense at all, are you using substances?
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>>128827787
Because those "lackies" are simply repeating what SOJ has already told them.
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Do you think penders will try to sue due to Archie not selling the Knuckles archives
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>>128828613
Then why are the Mystic Ruins - the land holding the remnants of the Echidna civilization where Angel Island allegedly rose from 4,000 years ago - also located near Station Square?
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>>128828062
How does Sonic get between worlds? How did the ARK scenario happen at all? How did Gerald go between worlds? Are there seperate sets of emeralds for both or just on Sonic's world. Just having it be 1 world for both Mobians and humans makes more sense and there's really no reason why it shouldn't be a thing
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>>128828828
>>128828869
It was just a suggestion. Would you prefer if Iizuka came on 4chan himself and told you guys?
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>>128829092
It doesn't matter who it comes form, that idea is fucking dumb
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>>128829092
We can't read Japanese.
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>>128828828
>>128828869
This is why all they say should be taken what a grain of salt nowadays. This two worlds garbage is obviously a recent thing they thought up in the office.
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>>128829092
Yes, actually. With everything that's been going on with the series in recent years, I wouldn't mind a word with him.
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>>128822641
>Mfw my sister got me those for christmas and some chocolate
>I got her Guitar hero live
I have mixed feelings about the trade off, but now i can run around the streets with sonics shoes on finally
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>>128829092
>>128829295
Iizuka probably doesn't even have answer himself. The most you'd get out of him is "Pretend all the games before this revelation didn't happen."
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>>128828062
>why does Angel Island exist in the same place as Station Square where humans live?

It doesn't? You have to take a train or boat to get between Station Square and the Mystic Ruins, where Angel Island touched down at least near by, in SA1. We have no idea how long the ride is, for all we know the ride could be anywhere from a few minutes to a day long. Plus it's canon that Angel Island does not stay in the exact same place all the time, it drift through the air constantly to make it harder to find and make the ME more safe.

>>128828383
>>128828434
I wonder if someone could do some math to figure out if that's what would happen if a certain amount of the moon was blown off. I mean would the now heaviest side rotate and become tidally locked to the planet?
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>>128829510
>[laughs] I don't know~
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Tikal is so fucking hot.
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>>128829656
>I wonder if someone could do some math to figure out if that's what would happen if a certain amount of the moon was blown off. I mean would the now heaviest side rotate and become tidally locked to the planet?
We should try that when have the technology to fire a supercharged laser of that magnitude.
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>>128829361
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Is game canon actually important to you /sthg/?
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>>128830529
YES IT IS!
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>>128830786
n-no bully!
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>>128830529
A little consistency wouldn't hurt.
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>>128830032
If we assume their moon is the exact same as ours, we can probably at least guess at how much mass it lost by watching the cutscene and figuring out how big the hole is.
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>>128832935
>Penders
>Mawhinney
>Garbie
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>>128832935
Was this after he turned green?
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>>128833196
The worst part is that in the next issue there's a surprisingly good story about Sonic dealing with the fact that Jules is the only robian that wasn't derobotocized, but Mawhinney's awful art ruins it
>>128833273
Yeah. This was right after he blew up in Mogul's face. He died and became a force ghost. It was fucking stupid
>>
These comics read like fanfiction with a bunch of soap opera family drama mixed in, what the fuck? Was that comic I saw of Blaze about to square off with team dark the reboot or the old one? I can't see how blaze could win that fight but she's got fire powers and that's her gem. Unless Shadow can use chaos control without a emerald like in the games I don't think she's that badly outmatched.
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>>128833386
>We evolve to a higher plane!
I'm out, this is retarded.
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>>128833386
>We of the BROTHERHOOD do not simply "DIE" -- as you so crudely put it, Knuckles!
>We EVOLVE to a HIGHER PLANE!
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>>128833640
That was post-Dark Ages, but pre-reboot. Arguably the pinnacle of the comic's run.

It's always darkest before the dawn.
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>>128833640
>Was that comic I saw of Blaze about to square off with team dark the reboot or the old one?
Old one, but that's after the comic got good (Actually that arc is pretty damn good) And yes, Blaze is good, but Shadow is pretty fucking powerful, and arguably has more experience plus you've got Omega who is pretty much a walking arsenal of destruction.
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>>128833936
>Cream in Omega sidecar
Why is this so cute?
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I need a fucking crop of Locke in panel with "attentive" under it because I can't stop laughing
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>>128833838
>>128833936
Well, if they still act like this in the new reboot I'm cool with it. Cream's adorable especially in those brief moments she gets violent. I remember seeing an image of her watching one of the fights and complaining about cheating in one of these threads. I think it was the one Honey the cat was revealed as an official sonic character.
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>>128834769
>Echidnas laying hard-shell eggs
>Mobians laying eggs at all
This triggers me.
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>>128835083
>Well, if they still act like this in the new reboot I'm cool with it. Cream's adorable especially in those brief moments she gets violent. I remember seeing an image of her watching one of the fights and complaining about cheating in one of these threads. I think it was the one Honey the cat was revealed as an official sonic character.
Oh absolutely
>. I remember seeing an image of her watching one of the fights and complaining about cheating in one of these threads. I think it was the one Honey the cat was revealed as an official sonic character.
You mean this?
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>>128834769
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>>128835252
Whose match was she watching again? Because that's hilarious
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>>128835367
Honey and Tails'
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>>128835367
Tails vs Honey.
>>128835347
Thanks
>>
Is the reason everyone mindlessly bashes the fuck out of every Sonic game ever made regardless of quality, because modern gamers literally can't grasp the concept of practicing and improving on actual gameplay with no instant gratification to be found, or because mentally-inept "PROFESSIONAL GAME DESIGNER" con artists who just like stirring up horseshit said they're bad to get popular on the internet resulting in endless hordes of retards believing them, or a combination of both? I play CD and SA2 all the time and regard them as great, and value them just as much as any other good game.
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>>128834769
>I HAD A BAD DREAM, BETTER MICROWAVE THE BABY
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>>128835252
Big's face gets me every time.
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>>128835429
>Honey pulls out Dudley's cross counter to beat Tails.
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>>128835563
>Is the reason everyone mindlessly bashes the fuck out of every Sonic game ever made regardless of quality, because modern gamers literally can't grasp the concept of practicing and improving on actual gameplay with no instant gratification to be found, or because mentally-inept "PROFESSIONAL GAME DESIGNER" con artists who just like stirring up horseshit said they're bad to get popular on the internet resulting in endless hordes of retards believing them, or a combination of both? I play CD and SA2 all the time and regard them as great, and value them just as much as any other good game.
Because "Sonic is/was always bad" is a popular meme and people want to fit in. Plus people have this misconception that you're always supposed to go fast in Sonic so when you have to do platforming, they carry that mentality and when they die, they blame the game
>>128835617
Father of the year all years
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>>128835563
It's both on top of being a meme.
I remember a guy on /vr/ bitching about Sonic 2's final boss because you don't get any rings. What does that tell you?
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>>128835563
>LOOK NOTHING I CAN DO I'M PRESSING BUTTONS AND NOTHING'S HAPPENING.gif
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>>128835726
>Enchilada's lay eggs.
>Hatch in less then two days.

did it ever say how long they carried for?
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>>128836106
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>>128835563
See >>128804237
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>>128835429
>>128835454
Her first mistake was thinking Tails was a compitant hand to hand fighter in the first place. I don't know how it is in the comics now or in the comics in the before times but Tails has never struck me as a physical combatant Even in Sonic Boom he never goes hand to hand, he either shoots or bashes with his wrench.
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>>128836216
Hang on to your butts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjyWXiZrSlQ
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>>128836272
>Sonic 1, 2, CD, 3&K, SA1, SA2, Colors, Generations, and the multitude of good handheld games are only as good as Lost World
i can into smart???//
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>>128836407
his mistake was falling for the "don't hit the girl thing. and he was Honey's Krillin. his testicles later dropped and he smashed Metal Sonic up good enough to warrant a deathstare and most likely a future fight.
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>>128836446
I can't bring myself to watch this. I just fucking can't. Fuck modern gamers. Fuck them all to death.
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>>128836446
>>128836216
Is this really the level of gamers these days? Sonic isn't even that hard.
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>>128836547
That's how the general opinion seems to work with Sonic. Good game comes out, people love Sonic and his games are good. Bad/mediocre game comes out, the "Sonic was never good" crowd takes over.
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>>128836547
OH SHIT, now I know what he meant, and I've also discussed that in the past. I just wasn't expecting it to be phrased like that. I keep forgetting that when the 25th anniversary game is released, which has no reason not to be excellent, Sonic's reputation will get a massive boost again.
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>>128836809
it's the level that idiots on youtube will sink to trying to get hits on their otherwise uninteresting videos.
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>>128836659
Metal Sonic's always been a bitch, getting puncked by Tails of all people makes me think it's time for some upgrades. Then he'll likely just get smashed by Gemerl or Omega because both are more powerful than him.
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>>128837407
Metal Sonic needs some victories.
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>>128835252
I just noticed that her ears are correctly placed.
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>>128836407
In the reboot comics, Tails has been shown to have experience in close combat, due to Sonic Battle happening.
>>
We need another Sonic game with an interesting, memorable setting, like ARK and stuff like that. Also, give Pontac and Gaff the boot.
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>>128838265
But who would replace them?
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>>128838441
Probably someone from Sonic Team. They did help write Runners and most of the games after all.
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>>128838265
That would requires writing that takes effort and Sega is trying to be as effortless as possible with Sonic while still not pissing off the purists. That's why we;ll never see the extended cast in another mainline Sonic game ever again or the Master Emerald, or anybody besides Sonic being playable. They should of keep the riders series going.. but gone back to the first one's gameplay with some tweeks. gravity and free riders sucked and felt really restrictive
>>
>>128838441
The guys who wrote Unleashed and Black Knight. I want cool, cheesy Sonic back, not unfunny, cheesy Sonic.
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>>128838441
In a perfect world, Ian Flynn. But Senpai has quite a lot on his plate lately, and I doubt Sega/Sonic Team would give him the creative freedom he'd need to make it work.
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>>128838703
>Ian Flynn

Ever think we tend to suck that guys dick a bit too much around these parts?
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>>128838703
>But Senpai has quite a lot on his plate lately
Considering half his Archie workload got cancelled and the rest is slowly becoming more diverse in terms of writing staff, I'd say he'd probably be up to it.

>>128838901
I won't say he's the best writer, but he'd be better than Pontaff.
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>>128838901
Sometimes a little, but the guy does deserve a lot of the praise he gets
>>
>>128838703
Archie canceled Boom and Mega Man, and it looks like he's only doing the occasional Ninja Turtles story. The poor guy is probably is hurting for work.

>>128838901
Eh. He's been cool to us, and he's a decent writer. Some of us don't cut him as much slack as others.
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Anyone else notice how fast we've been burning through threads? Maybe it's just because last month was so slow, but it feels a lot faster
>>
>>128838703
>>128838901
Eh, I'd want to see a sample of how he'd write a game before wanting him as game writer.
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>>128839352
I've noticed that too. We had been languishing in 2-3 day long threads, but now we've been going through about a thread a day.
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>>128839583
Same here.
>>128839594
It's really nice ain't it
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>>128839352
Last time someone said this. Threads got slower.

Anyway, there's game buzz now, which is important.
>>
>>128838901
>>128839020
>>128839132
>>128839583
>>128839747
Hmm . . . Good points, all of you. Definitely struggling to come up with any better ideas, though.
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>>128840256
I'd just go with the guy who did Black Knight/Secret Rings, because he's proven. That or Kojima because fuck it
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>>128840403
How deep would Kojima go with the story? I feel with all that's happened and going on in the Sonic lore, something from Kojima might not actually seem out of place if done right.
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>>128840690
>How deep would Kojima go with the story? I feel with all that's happened and going on in the Sonic lore, something from Kojima might not actually seem out of place if done right.
The fact that GUN exists gives him more than enough to work with here
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>>128840690
>>128840740
>stealth game starring Rouge
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>>128840690
>>128840740
>>128840859
Chaos genes.
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>>128841052
Nanoemeralds, son
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>>128841547
>Not Nanites, son.
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>>128841593
It's been a while since I read the comics, but yeah, that's much better
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>>128833660
Oh, it's even worse when you consider that they've been waiting four centuries for their goddess to notice them, and when she does finally show up, it's to take Knuckles away and ignore all the others.

One of them who died just a little bit before was met by the ghost of his father who told him "something wonderful" was what awaited them.
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>>128842132
>Oh, it's even worse when you consider that they've been waiting four centuries for their goddess to notice them, and when she does finally show up, it's to take Knuckles away and ignore all the others.
And then she makes him relive events and tells him "You only get one chance" and when he leaves she reveals to Athair that she lied
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>>128836659
>his mistake was falling for the "don't hit the girl thing.

Uh no, it was literally falling for "look behind you." Honey acted like something in the ring was amiss and he fell for it. It had nothing to do with her being a girl, don't be a shitter.
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>>128837825
The fuck do you mean "correctly?" They swivel around, they've done that literally since her first appearance.
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>>128840690
Something like this, I expect.
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>>128842268
Never mind that earlier on, the echidnas talked about God, not a "goddess Aurora."

And then Penders has the wolves talking about Aurora.

And then the Dark Legion was FULL of religious symbolism until later on he decided they were anti-theology.
>>
You know I was thinking about ways they could try to make a good Boom game taking advantage of the universe and general style they have and though that a top down Diablo styled handheld game could work well.
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>>128844564
I'd honestly like to see the Boom universe expanded upon, because Rise of Lyric made it seem like there was an actual lore to be explored, but we've gotten very little since then. We've gotten one or 2 occasional things in the cartoon, but nothing besides that
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>>128845280
>but we've gotten very little since then.
And I doubt you'll get more. Rise of Lyric seems so totally different from all the other aspects of Boom.
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>>128845841
Yeah, it's really odd. From RoL I got the impression it'd be more focused on adventure, exploration, and general lore and that the show would be the outlier. Then it turns out that RoL is the outlier. Shame RoL was shit because I actually liked the aesthetic.
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>>128836659
>don't hit the girl thing
nah, I think that's more "male heroes aren't allowed to hit girls", sonic didn't get to hit honey and knux beat amy by smashing a piece of the arena she was on outside the ring
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>>128840256
Who wrote Sonic Battle?
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>>128846891
>sonic didn't get to hit honey

He literally threw her out of the fucking arena after trading kicks with her.
Tails also hit Honey with his spinning-tail-whip thing.
Prereboot Shadow smacked Amy in the face with her own damn hammer, Sonic and Tails both hit Mecha Sally, Amy vs Knuckles was more about a gag than anything else.
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>>128846010
>>128845841
>>128845280
>tfw realizing I have over 50 hours clocked in RoL
It keeps drawing me back in the weirdest way
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>>128846891
>male heroes aren't allowed to hit girls

Like when Shadow hit Amy with her hammer and Werehog punched Thunderbolt across a field.
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>>128847398
Probably some anonymous member of Sonic Team or Dimps who likely doesn't even work there any more.
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>>128754528

> Sonic X Kingdom Hearts

THE AUTISM IS KILLING MEEEEEEEEEEEE
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I'll get next thread ready.
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ok
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>>128849123
>>128849123
>>128849123
>>128849123
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>>128847398
Someone that hates Amy.
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>>128754528
>Hell's Kitchen
Sally would be the first one eliminated.
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>>128850529
Boco?
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