Heroes of the Storm General - /hotsg/

1st for Sgt. Hammer

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something I did made op without me being the one to post it

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When will the Murloc persecution in this general end? Murloc's are people too!

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4th for panda bears and hungry swords

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>HL
>fp instalock nova
>says something in russian
oh boy, here we go

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>>128617234
I can dig that.

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>>128617442
No appreciation for Hogger here either.
You anons are a disgrace to all of Elwynn.
https://youtu.be/uvW-QTiZLQ0
End discrimination, vote for Greymeme 2016, imported directly from The Order: 1886.

Where the FUCK is Maiev????

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>>128617834
After Ol' Murk Eye.

>>128617953
>tfw you look at that pic and pick out all of the individual murlocs there that are Hearthstone cards and then feel bad about how lazy Blizzard is

>>128618124
>maylgos is some other dragon (Kalecgos)
>bloodmage thalnos is some random skellington (Turov the Risen)
>stampeding kodo isnt a fucking kodo its a clefthoof

>>128617834
I expect to see her come out on the WoW: Legion release date.

Is the yeti noise when murky has the murlock skin from March of the bronze the most pleasant sound in the game?

>>128618808
>Mal'Ganis isn't Mal'Ganis.
>Fist of Jaraxxus isn't a picture of Jaraxxus.

>>128618808
>>128619354
>Dragon Consort isn't a consort

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>>128619348
Murky doesn't have shit on Lauren Tom's soothing, beautiful, melodic voice.
http://vocaroo.com/i/s05aX8DsBGza
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1qVKipGgdtl

>suck at the game
>blame team for everything

>>128617757
That elf skin for Tyrande when?

>>128619956
>Best voice.
>Not Johanna.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5jKVtTW7Ss

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>>128619956
>tfw Li Li is some old ass lady

>tfw you live in South America and pretty much only play in the Brazilian server because of proximity and latency
I don't know how shit are russians, but huezilians are insufferable babies and fucking shit at Hots

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>>128620207
>tfw Johanna will never use condemn to pull you close to her

>>128620081
I do this too, why is everyone except me so bad at this game?!?

>>128620081
>>128621395
Jokes aside, people who're actually good at the game are less likely to flame their team in-game even when their team does suck. You'll almost never see people bitch unless they're very obviously the worst player on the team.

>>128621824
>I never bitch at people so I obviously lost because of the guy who is bitching

>>128621824
>You'll almost never see people bitch unless they're very obviously the worst player on the team.

I seriously wonder if this idea came about because flamers just rubbed people the wrong way and they felt the need to invalidate the flamer entirely.

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>>128620207
Alright, yeah. Johanna is best.
>>128620307
>Calling the voice actor of Samurai Jack's mother an old ass.
>Jinx from Teen Titans old ass.
>Dana Tan from Batman Beyond old ass.
>Amy Wong from Futurama old ass.
Comon man she might as well be voiced by Sarah Silverman. Vanellope is basically Li Li.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/32533763/some%20fuckin%20twat.mp4
>>128621824
Kinda. Generally I like to believe that people realize that there's just not enough time to type out every flaw that is happening when they could be dropping their latest mixtape on a creep wave.

>>128620207
>Johanna
>Not Nova / Li-Ming

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>Shrines
>we have a Sonya
>keeps getting butthurt at a Muradin that constantly takes merc camps
>not a move I'd agree with but he seems friendly enough so I leave him to it
>Sonya just keeps flaming
>tell them to shut the fuck up
>"B-But m-muh rank 1 means I'm good!"
>look at their match history
>no hero league at all, on a 5 loss streak, no notable win streaks at all
>point out how they've done the lowest damage and died eleven times as Sonya
>they just say the reason I'm still rank 10 is because I focus on stats too much

She blamed the Muradin doing camps for her deaths because we were one man in a fight but if that's the case why jump in like a fucking sperg?

Rank reset when, we fucking need it.

>>128620207
THE CRUSADE CALLS

>>128622225
In other mobas you can carry, so like in league if you are bronze or gold it is 100% your fault, but people think they are just being held back by their teams, which is not the case because you can carry games.

Why is Brightshit so bad?

>>128622023
I promise, I'm not so saintly that I can keep myself from flaming in game when I get frustrated.

Right now I'm just talking about the psychology though. Bad players are less likely to evaluate their own mistakes and realize their screw ups than good players, if they could, they probably wouldn't be so bad.

That might not mean a whole lot on its own since it only explains why a lot of bad players don't ever seem to get better, but I think it should be a given to everyone that flaming isn't practical. No one ever listens to that shit, and in the worst case scenario you're going to play worse for and your team will play worse for it. At best it's the last resort you go to when you've decided you're doing all you can to win the game and your team needs to get it together.

If you can bring yourself to believe in both of those statements, it draws a pretty easy conclusion. A bad player will not be able to evaluate their mistakes, as a result they will not be able to identify what they can do to win a game, so they're more inclined to flame because a good player in a similar situation will be able to identify what's wrong and find ways to solve the problem, or failing that they probably won't flame because it's impractical when they want to win.

Plus anyways, set yourself aside entirely. Just watch for the people who complain when you're playing, and I bet you'll find that it's usually the guy on your team who's making his own calls when the rest of your team is all on the same silent page.

>>128623165
>Focused too easily
>Shitters not using blink right
>Shitters not using wind right
>Not picking her for the right comp
>not specing mist and dust with TLV on your team

>>128623290
>Rexxar doesn't watch minimap
>plays single player in top lane all day
>even though we somehow manage to get objective without him
>whenever he gets ganked he says "that's bs"
What's bs about it?
Do people not realize that every action has a consequence? Can they not grasp the scales of risk and reward?

>>128623290
you say all this and it makes some sense and i'd like to agree with it, but i have not actually observed this relation in my experience

>>128623165
>stun + burst meta
>bw has low burst healing
she just doesn't have a place in the game atm

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>>128620207

That's not how you say Valla.

>"You don't touch the Night Elf demon hunters like that."
>whyboner

so how long until they announce anything coming up?

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>diablo came from dumpster tier to god tier

Wtf happened?

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>>128622294
am i the only one who wants to put Sylvanas' feet in my mouth?

>Haunted Mines got removed
>While Dragon Shire exists

What the actual fuck?

>>128632261
>map that requires a lot of teamwork vs a map that snowballs uncontrollably leading to 5 minute game

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>>128632138
naw he's still not good :^)

>>128632261
>most balanced map is kept
>most snowbally map removed

I had my best winning percentage on mines but it wasn't a good map I miss it though ;_;7

>>128632496
>bronzedraftchat.png

>>128632138
He got buffed.

>>128632556
this was rank1

but yeah my mmr is shit, haven't played a lot yet

>>128632261
I hope they remove BHB.

>be tyrande
>diablo on the team
>diablo doesn't want to roam
>"diablo is a pusher noob"
>win, diablo says "carried hard"
i sure enjoy being the only constant

>>128632702
what is this garbage

i hope you don't spend time on this

>>128632261
>>128632383
I'd rather have a snowbally map that's fun than a map where,

>pussyfooting over taking shrines means getting the Dragon can take fucking ages, leading to games that just feel like they're dragging
>even when you get the dragon, compared to the plant monstrosity it's completely underwhelming
>many team comps get absolutely fucked due to a need to constantly rotate

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>>128632978

>>128633665
its because bronzers dont actually know what to do on that map and just zero in on the objective when its better to group up and take a good fight than fucking around in the lanes as 2-3

>enemy team has jaina and kael
>their burst fails to kill anyone
>enemy diablo charges and gets stunned, tyrande misses her stun
>we're all topped off and ready to go
>our 2 warriors pussy around
>they wait until kael and jaina get their cooldowns back
>ENGAGE
every fucking time
how hard is it to realize all heroes have cooldowns?

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There's some chink tournament going on right now

twitch gillyweedsc2

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suck it smite

Do people actually play this game in decent numbers? I tried it recently and matchmaking seems dead as fuck.

Playing this for the first time, is there a certain role that's good for beginners, or should I just go ahead and pick whatever I think looks neat?

>>128636668
Yeah, the game is fine. I've heard a lot of new players complaining about matchmaking time, though, so maybe there's just issues with the matchmaker trying to find games for players without many games.

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>tfw no murloc army

>>128636971
You've chosen a really shitty moment to start playing. The current meta is all about stuns and burst damage. So, if you plan on winning, learn to play either Kael, Diablo, Tyrande, Muradin or Raynor. These are the current top picks and they outclass all other heroes by far. Balance patch next week, here's to hoping things change.

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>>128637968
>Balance patch next week
they never said that

>>128638176
They said they were going to start rolling out some changes in a few weeks and that was a week before Greymanne. They actually specifically said no with Greymanne but after.

>Gaymane on the team
>he jumps in to kill a half HP tank
>dies without getting a kill
>complains that he doesn't get heals
I'm already sick of this hero

>Duo on my team
>They intentionally feed
>Other team's 4 man premade has Tyrande Raynor Diablo Tass
That's it I'm done until they completely rework matchmaking

>three games in a row with muted/flaming teammates or just the worst comps resulting in a loss stomp every time

But nah there isn't a forced 50 in this game guys lol.

>Artanis free week

Kill me. Why the fuck does nobody know how to play him properly.

>>128639870
they cant even get regular matchmaking, yet you think they have conspiracy matchmaking

>>128639870
The comp thing may just be coincedence, but it WILL match you with players below your MMR to "balance" out total MMR on both teams.

Which means it purposefully puts you at a bit of a disadvantage with your teammates.

>sundering into ring of ice
>balanced
are devs retarded or what?

>>128639870
>3 games
>anywhere even fucking close to a relevant sample size

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>>128639870
im getting there!

>>128640514
>abilities are strong
>this is bad
#justrank30things

Anyone else watching the chink esports on gillyweeds stream?

These casters suck shit

>>128640912
>Watching gillyweed
>Ever

What happened to the Asian team liquid stranger who had a green shirt so he could use green screen stuff with it. I remember watching him in the older days

>>128640993
Sorry

>our only support is rehgar
>he spends the first 15 minutes soloing and pushing lanes
>"look my siege damage"
>diablo has 11 deaths in 15 minutes
>he's our only tank
>"fucking raynor, 100% pick"
wow
i'm somehow supposed to win this, right?

>>128641978
O_0

>>128642130
T_T

>>128642187
o . o

Where's the Chinese stream without English retards commenting over it

>>128642257
-.- ...

>>128642307
found it
http://www.douyutv.com/cms/zt/blizzardtv.html

>>128642687
>livestreamer is compatible with douyutv
>but it can't find the stream
what

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She doesnt look good today

>>128642975
?? maybe start here then click the first video
http://www.douyutv.com/directory/game/HOTS

>>128642893
>Lost Balance on GoT
rip C9

>>128643029
weird
that link just made things even worse
oh well, i'll just watch it with their player

>>128622294
>>128620307
>>128619956
Lauren Tom was a qt MILF on Supernatural.

it is pretty cute that they are using america raynor

>>128642687
I installed their app and managed to find the game cuz the site wouldn't work :!

Artanis is really fun
>W'ing fool to death, pretty much no one can stand their ground with me
>trying to escape? oh no you don't, come back here > E
>stylish finisher with Q
>"psssh nothing personel, lower lifeform..."
Artanis is fun

>>128643746
Im watching it on their website

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>it's a "our silenced kael deals less damage than tyrande" episode
>he keeps spamming pings
>always out of position
>our team has 6 deaths, 5 of them are his
>he added me as a friend after we win
>i accepted just for the lols
>he calls me trash because i first picked tyrande

>>128643936
On your phone?

>>128643082
rip your prediction

>Evil One

memewolf damage nerf when

>>128644482
>just
you suck anon

>>128644482
>Baww why can assassins assassinate me???
Fuck off bronzie

>faggot first picks lunara
queue dodging should be legal in these cases

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Greymane sure is op

>second phase of bans before red team has a second pick phase

What

>>128644709
First week is always rough on new heroes, because baddies don't know what to do with them. It'll increase in the coming weeks

>>128644709
>>128644569
>>128644512

You realize he's ridiculously strong but most players are shit at this game so you don't actually realize it yet right.

>>128644709
>b-b-but muh new hero!!
>>128644772
>people said this about lunara

>>128620081
>be rank 1 god
>keep getting matched with level 30s that pick stitches and die 7 times

>>128644845
You're right, we need more weak characters like Lunara and Tychus. Nerfs when?

>>128643846
Tales from bronze where no one picks stuns

>>128645001

>Lunara

objectively shit desu

>playing a comfy QM game as Chen
>other team is 3 members of bob Ross fan club
>give up before the game even starts, just casually slapping people with my stick and drinking
>participate in team fights but not putting any effort in
>nova on my team says FUCKING CHEN USELESS SHIT
>he has 8 deaths and less damage than me
>I've literally been afk warned 5 times

Damn. That was a mad nova

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When will I hit master medic

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>tfw derank to rank 11

Why is Muradin so fun

>>128644845
>>128644772
yeah he might make it all the way to 45% wins

>silenced player is last pick
>he picks lunara even though we needed a support
i'm lovin it

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>tfw I'm going to rank to 7 this weekend

Tassadar meme week is the most annoying shit

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I'm using this build as thrall recently
http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator/thrall#kHkD

What do you guys think?

>medic and chogall people fell over themselves to defend their shitty release
>greymane people fall over their self to defend his shitty release
Dustin is that you

>>128646224
not bad, it seems like a pretty standard build

>Playing Monk in QM you can skip the rest
>Nobody bothering to stop mercs and Graymane from destroying our fort in top
>Ping and go alone until Chen shows up
>Chen chases Graymane all the way back to their gate while our fort is taken down
>"wtf Khara why no chase that could have been a kill"
>we're 2 levels behind now that the fort is gone

So my question is, is kill xp when they're lvl 12 significant enough to not try and save a fort? I told him chasing was worthless at that point and he spent the rest of the match blogging about how I need to learn the math for this game. Oh, and then he blamed me (heal spec) for not securing 3 kills when we lost with like 7 to 30 something kills.

tl;dr I need a HOTS math nerd.

>>128646260
And artanis.

Funny how people are still buying newly released heroes.
Not even with "muh infinite gold" because they're riding around on circus lions.

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>mfw illidan not buffed yet

>>128636615
>winning by just shy of 0.1%
yeah fuck you equally underrated MOBA.

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>why did u pick be bro

>>128646760
havent seen a single lion mount yet
the bundle is so fucking bad its like blizzard tries to get the money back they "lost" during the sale

>>128646760
gold to purchase hero
cash to buy ringmaster skin
that is how I roll

>>128647321
I really am curious about how well greymane has sold. I would imagine he's probably the worst selling hero yet

>Play DPS hero
>Tanks dont know how to frontline and disengage

>Play tank
>Soak up 85K+ damage over course of game in fights and stun heroes who actually need it
>DPS can't figure out target prioritization

Why is solo queue so suffering

>>128645975
>>128646087
>>128646234
>>128646339
>>128646513
>>128646885
>>>/global/rules/13

>>128647421
>50% off sale during crimmas may have drained the pocket books
>target demo is back in classes HS & cool leg
>Lunara leaving a bad taste in player mouths
>another hero with a possibly difficult mehanix to learn
>old dude that's kinda obscure
>skin is weird
>mount is meh

pick any of 'em.

So Towers of Doom is 100% the worst map in the game with Mines gone right

>>128647894
Without a doubt.

>>128647894
yes.
poor design, poor music, a boss not worth fighting for.

>>128647894
I like the idea and the announcers.
otherwise there seems to be some seriously busted issues with the map.

gillyweed and zoia casting is the cringiest thing i have seen on hots scene in a while.

>>128644772
>First week is always rough on new heroes, because baddies don't know what to do with them
>>128644845
>You realize he's ridiculously strong but most players are shit at this game so you don't actually realize it yet right.


Leoric was released July 21st. By August 3rd he had the number 1 win rate on hot dogs.

What is with these retards thinking that they have some secret knowledge or skills that nobody else can understand

What's the best spec for Muradin?

>mfw playing against a morales/hammer lane

This should be instant b.net ban desu

>>128645863
Jumping dwarf with both a hammer and an axe. 10/10.

>>128649632
Reverberation, Thunder Burn, Piercing Bolt, Avatar, Thunder Strike, Stoneform and Hardened Shield.

I like to pick Heavy Impact and Unstoppable Force though.

>>128649990
>Infernal Shrines
>My team consists of Butcher, Raynor, Brightwing, Zagara and Greymane
>Playing against Morales, Greymane, Hammer, Nova and Abathur (which clones Greymane)
WinStreak.exe stopped working.
Also, Butcher was like "I will charge Morales and we will kill her, easy win". Good luck with that, Fresh Mate.

>>128650726

Morales is worse than Rehgar ever was tbqh.

>>128647814
>He's on both teams in nearly every QM.

Pick one. More Gaymanes than Nova on free Nova week.

>falstad bitches all game about how bad we are
>says wp when we win

>>128651517
>Accidently queue AI instead of QM
>Everyone says GG when we win in 7 minutes

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>people say gg
>it was bg
>mfw

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>>128651664
>not saying bg every single loss and even on some wins where your team is retarded

Muradin is too much fun to play, needs a nerf

>>128649047
Leoric was broken levels of OP on release that's a bad comparison they needed to nerf 4 times to make him balanced

>>128636615
>Dark Souls still almost 4000 viewers
I'm impressed

>>128652052
indeed, 2nd most fun tank after Diablo T B H

>>128636668
>>128637023
Dota 2 matchmaking ques are just as long. They have longer games but they also have more players.

>>128617486
I really want to see Undead/Death Knight Li Li.

I love it when cute things get corrupted.

>>128633697
This is like some sort of abstract art.

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>The Stone Guardians on Sky Temple do the Egyptian dance when caught in a Mosh Pit by ETC

The minor details, man.

Rehgar is best support. Just a reminder.

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>there will never be a 5 vs 5 custom game made up entirely by /vg/ players

>>128652206
yeah but the point was that heroes that are "ridiculously powerful" don't have 40% winrates, just because they are new

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>>128649990
>>128650726
unlike most other heroes, Muradin actually has more than one viable talent choice in some tiers and picking Infused Hammer, Sledgehammer, Crowd Control Give 'em The Axe, or Unstoppable Force is all sometimes right.
>tfw Sledgehammer and Thunderstrike on BoE

>Play Diablo
>Suddenly I am in a team of pubbies versus a five stack
>My team is me, Tychus, Kael, Brightwing, Butcher while the stack is a Tyrande, Diablo, Raynor, Sylvanas and Muradin

Blizzard is a fucking liar, told me they fixed matchmaking and then suddenly putting me in this. Fucking hell, that was the most suffering of a wombo combo I had to watch everyone suffer

>>128658575
Pretty sure Give em' the Axe is never better than Stoneform. Unless they have that shit of damage. In which case it probably doesn't matter your going to win anyways.

>>128658780
in a case where Give 'em The Axe is better than Stoneform, you've probably won in matchmaking anyway, but I added it in because it's fun

>>128649047

Leoric is a very easy hero to play. Almost Raynor tier. Not a big surprise his winrate was fairly even/high first week or two when he has practically no skill cap.

Greymane is actually fairly difficult. He has no defense besides E which goes on cd if you don't open with either ult. He does mad damage though if he gets unleashed as worgen but worgen greymane is also has a guaranteed "focus me right now" effect to every enemy player's mind.

He has interesting talents so it'll be good to see how he settles in coming few weeks. A lot of different builds possible.

ded

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>>128662567

>>128659901

>Greymane is actually fairly difficult.

I feel like that's why so many people are sleeping on him. He's one of the few heroes in this game with an actual skill ceiling above mouthbreather level.

>>128663180
I wish baddies only played easy heroes so they can be useful

>>128663584

>Tfw play an assassin or something like Raynor
>Get in a game against a competent to good memewofl
>Get jumped on and blown the fuck up because he's not a shitter every fight

>Have memewolf on my team
>Is named Rainbowdash and has fucking downs syndrome

For what purpose

>>128659901
>>128663180
I've seen people complain that they have to turn back into a human, when I find his human form is actually generally more useful.

His Worgen form is basically like an ult used to finish people off or put pressure on people and then quickly let up. He's not someone you can just charge like crazy with you've got be more surgical picking when to go all out.

>>128664028

Yeah, I think people don't seem to understand human form is for poking and whittling people down and you pop wolf when you're ready to blow them the fuck up. He seems really fucking strong as long as you're not shit at positioning and timing.

>>128663714
People really underestimate just how insane burst damage he can really do. 1v1 there aren't many heroes that can beat him.

>>128664028
>>128664138
he's basically Valla that can turn into Illidan to murder people when they're almost dead

How do you beat Morales? She seems really, really broken.

>>128664365
Oh

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Which female hero has the best ass?

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Any players on EU want to team up and farm XP?

>>128665892

Red haired Nova (aka Kerrigan)

>>128664028
I like to turn in worgen vs a zagara more often, q destroys creep like crazy

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>>128651664
>>128651719

>ever saying either one

>>128665892
Tyrande obviously

>>128665892
female high elf hero when. sick of this purple skinned green haired crap

>>128665892
Li Li!

>>128668303
Sylvanas has a skin of when she was alive and Tyrande has a Blood Elf skin.

>>128668303
She has a high elf skin

>>128668303
>tfw no Lady Liadrin
this game needs more paladins

I just had the best vikings game. The art on my team was lv 13 with vikings and he gave me a lot of tips. It was a bit hard though. I've never been terror AND vikings at the same time. Also, splitting up for anything other than lanes is still a nightmare for me. We won though.

>>128664365
She can only heal one person at a time and has no burst heals. A lot of the time if your team is focusing targets properly you can burst through her heals, but youre better off attacking someone she isnt healing or morales herself if she is out of position enough. She really isnt that broken, rehgar is a better healer in my opinion.

>>128671064
When tyrande gets nerfed and the tone down stuns and maybe hit burst, Moralas will probably be op.

>>128671064

She seems to make it absolutely impossible to lose a lane unless she's a shitter or WAY out of position.

>>128671317
So focus that lane harder or push a different lane and force them to defend. Its not rocket science. Without coordinated teammates it might aswell be.

how do I impress a girl in this game?

>>128671924
with flowers, adventure, and brew

Why is Malfurion a healer? He was never really known for healing in the story.

>>128672460
because he's a druid, so he has to heal, same as Uther
>tfw no Boomkin form hero
>tfw no moonfire spam

>>128671924
Ask Abathur

>>128672850
Druids are more known for shapeshifting than healing

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>>128671924
Play Rexxar and land every bear tackle on a sylvanas, johanna, valla, nova, and tyrande.
Every time it lands, whisper Careless Whispers and say this is how you treat every beautiful woman - with love, care, and compassion.

>>128672850
I don't know anything about wow but did you mean rehgar

>>128672850
Uther is based on WCIII Paladins, which were mainly a support Hero.

>>128664238
>illidan murdering anyone
He does no damage

>>128673154
Rehgar is a shaman, and he turns into a wolf not a moonkin
>>128673018
not to Blizzard apparently. I Wish they'd kept Moonfire away from Malf or made him a proper Balance druid, since it sort of indicates that we won't get any other druids and Malf is stuck being an underpowered and shitty hybrid

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>>128655970

>>128632138
He wasn't even dumpster. I played him all the time when everyone said he sucked and my winrate was 65%. After the buffs its 69.2

Wait, did Blizzard make Worgen's all British sounding stero types just for a Werewolves of London joke

>>128673467
In the story Malfurion never really healed anyone, he was more about spamming op abilities to kill enemies.

>>128673467
Uther is a druid?

>>128671307
this is likely true for a few heroes

even greymane probably would have been pretty good outside of the current cancer meta

>>128671307
When Tyrande gets nerfed I'm just gonna start playing Kharazim more. He has crazy ass AoE heals and he also comes with the benefit of punching people in the fucking teeth.

>>128673901
I mean the meta is always going to be cancer, and there are going to be heroes that people complain about. Remember when people cried non stop about Tychus being OP or BW?

>>128673716
yes. It's also why Gilneas is Victorian England when all the other human kingdoms are generic medieval France

>>128674148
things havent been this bad for a long time, and when things were this bad, it wasnt for nearly as long

>>128673716
Pretty sure in there's an NPC named Worgen Zevon in WoW somewhere, or something similar

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>>128674148
Tye randy is going to get the bw treatment

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>>128665892
Master Skin Jaina

Man...there sure is something about that Win 3 Games quest that suddenly comes with a curse of making you lose games in the most unexpected ways possible

I probably should stop playing QM or Ranked whenever I get that quest

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>>128674625

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Milhouse when?

blizzard should bring back the old cleanse this fucking stun meta is killing me
literally

>>128674625
I can't play hots where Tyrande is no longer a viable pick

>>128675086
ahead of grom, garrosh, medivh, gul'dan and probably kel'thuzad

>>128675245
nah we need Cairne

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>>128675226

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>>128675424

Nah we need this nigga.

is there a model viewer for this similar to the wow one?

>>128675086
>>128675580
You people are like a fucking plague trying to destroy this game even further. FUCK OFF WITH YOUR MEME CHARACTERS!

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>>128665892
Medic is pretty damn thick.

I want a skin of her out of armor like Raynor/Tychus.

>>128675657
one site had one, it shut down like 6 months ago saying it would be back soon

>>128675580
>David Bowie just died
>Area 52 has a bunch of references to Space Oddity
Dr. Boom confirmed

>>128675868
HeroKing right?

>>128638176
This skin for Cho'Gall when???

>>128676274
yep. That was it.

The only other choice is some guy has ported many of the models to sfm, or you can import them into something like 3dstudio max yourself


>>128676330
We've all been waiting for swimsuits

>>128676274
Yeah it was part of ZAM or whatever, same owner as wowhead, it took down a few sites because of server issues, still no news
>>128675580
I would literally take any meme character over dr.boom, no personality or dialog (yeah butcher.) , and a meme because not how op he was, but because blizzard can't into decent 7 minions

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Motherfucking when?

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>>128676996
Like this or riot

>>128675226
Don't worry people will complain about the next op thing and say it's the most cancerous meta just like every meta, and Tyrande will probably get buffed after being unviable for a month or 2.

>>128677163
Do you niggers forget the game was Almost balanced before blizzcon

Way the fuck closer than it is now where 70%+ of the roster is shit

>>128676996
Gnome female when?

>>128677343
with Jaina and Kael'thas?

>>128676996
>>128677137
>>128677353
>inb4 Li-Ming has Time Stop instead of a Bronze Dragon

>>128677512
I remember chu bitching non-stop about Jaina lol now after the scaling changes he doesn't touch her because she is too weak

I feel like Abathur has a lot of variety in terms of builds, depending on maps and comps. Especially in QM, where he's not relegated to crazy pushing all game.

However, I can't help but worry if I'm fucking my team by grabbing certain talents. What talents are completely worthless or just don't stand alone?

Lately, I keep getting frustrated by Blackheart. My team never seems to be where I want them to be.

>>128677343
or the fact that we havent had the balance worked on in 2 fucking months, right after the biggest rebalance the ever had effecting every single unit

>>128677512
The most fucked thing were before right now, was when Leo and Jo were at ~70% pick rates
That is nothing compared to the shit we have right now

>>128677695
Jaina has over 100% pick rate, Kael'thas was up there as well.

>>128677680
Skip pushing, it's shit, go for teamfight symbiote talents.

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>>128677960
Last full week before the new scaling
2 heroes with 70% pick rates, next highest was under 60%
Also this is how fucking long tye randy has been #1

when are they announcing their balance changes?

>>128671924
the only way you can impress a girl in this game is by not playing this game

Alright /hotsg/ I have a good one for you:
Name me all the heroes that you think are balanced and why

man i'm getting real tyred of Tyrande

>>128678915
you have to explain why heroes are imbalanced, not the other way around

>>128678425
>Illidan was slightly better than Raynor and diablo
>Kerrigan almost there
>Thrall was way below them

Good old times

>>128678915
Uh... Li Li. Lt. Morales. Valla. ETC.

They do stuff, but aren't end all, be all.

>>128678915
Almost every support excluding tyrande and probably Tas

>>128679392
you think Tass is UP/OP? how so?

Guys

Upcoming heroes vids when?????????????

New event when????????????

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>>128680592
maybe next year

>>128678915

Jo, Uther, Rehgar, Sylvanas, Zagara

All I can think of right now, my game has loaded.

>>128646656
it's kind of situational, if the fort was beyond saving and you could have safely secured the kill, I would have went with Chen.
also:
>Underdog Bonus. A team that is behind the opposing team gets an "underdog bonus" for every enemy hero that is killed. The amount of bonus XP earned per takedown will scale significantly based on how many levels apart the teams are, and caps off at a four-level difference. Bonus XP will be granted for each takedown until team levels become even. Additionally, a team that is ahead in levels now earns fewer experience points for takedowns, and the effects work inversely. Likewise, this handicap ceases when the teams are leveled

>enter draft
>"pro greymane here"
>check history
>lost 3 of his last 4 games with greymane
>check hero collection
>2-3 games away from level 5
>"pick someone else please"
>locks in greymane anyway

New heroes should be banned from ranked for a week or two

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>playing Abathur will never be a satisfying experience

>>128681728
Don't worry, I'm bad at Abathur too.

>>128681728
>hiding the fact that it was a 35 minute game and literally every tower and wall is dead on both sides
lel worth it XD!

Why does Raynor get a 1.5 second stun? What were they thinking?

>>128682694
>Why does Muradin get a 1.5 second stun? What were they thinking?
>Why does Kael'thas get a 1.5 second stun? What were they thinking?

>>128683048
Kael's is fine because it doesn't do damage, but the width should be smaller it's way too easy to hit. Mura should only get 1 sec, but Raynor is already high damage and they put a stun on a high damage ability, he shouldn't have a stun.

>>128683552
But it knocks them away so you can't chase with it and it takes a high level talent.

Rexxar's fixate should work differently. It should mark an enemy if and enemy is targeted, if that enemy is out of range, Misha should maintain the nearest possible distance.

That and Rexxar should be able to get feign death at least one level earlier.

His main issue is that Misha's control is just clunky due to how leash range works. Either change it to what I've said or simply have Misha control via TLV and give her a damage penalty (40-50%) and hp Regen penalty for being outside "leash range" of Rexxar.

Blizzard can discard a lot of talent and create a Rexxar centrist talent set. Right now Rexxar is just there to support Misha.

>>128683552
>nerf Muradin
>Kael is fine

>>128683552
>only ranged assassin with a stun baseline
>can hit up to 3 targets from level one
>easily out damages other ranged assassins while also having a warrior's stun
>fine because it doesn't deal damage

If more than 1 person DCs they should offer a surrender option fr the remaining people. This is fucking shit.

>>128684185
Mura needs a nerf, but making the stun harder to hit on kael is a nerf to him, did you not read? He needs nerfs in other areas though.

how do I build artanus?

>>128678915
>Name me all the heroes that you think are balanced and why

I'd actually say that the majority of heroes that aren't blatantly underpowered like Gazlowe, Tychus, or Lunara are actually fairly balanced.

The problem right now is that Tyrande is so degenerate that her synergy is allowing characters who normally wouldn't be a problem like Diablo to run completely fucking unchecked in the meta. There's a reason why Diablo was barely picked during Heroes Rising since Tyrande was insta-banned in every single match-up.

Right now I'd say that Muradin, Kael'thas, Tyrande, and Raynor are the heroes that are most deserving of a nerf right now. Once that happens, I think we'll see far far greater team comp diversities then we have before. Cho'gall for instance is a hero that could be good if Tyrande and Raynor weren't so completely out of whack.

>>128685810
Tyrande doesn't really counter Cho'gall, giant killer is what fucks him up. Cho'gall will be worse when Graymane is viable though since he get 3% max health per hit at 16.

>>128686046
Vuln and Stun fuck up Cho'gall badly.

>end up alongside a 4-stack as Greymane
>Dragon Shrine
>mfw they're all rank 1 and I'm just rank 10
>ask what build I should go
>"q build"
>alright
>hold top lane mostly by myself but Khara comes to help for a bit at some point
>laning vs an Anub and an Abathur who's hatting him and put mines everywhere around the shrine
>sometimes manage to make 1v1 trades but still end up feeding a lot
>mfw the rest of my teammates have no deaths at all
>thankfully they don't flame but they don't say anything either, they're just quiet
>mfw eventually joined in on big teamfights and managed to secure kills with my ulti

A bit of a weird experience but was a fun game nonetheless.

>>128686172
A 1 second stun doesn't really counter him, vaulnerability is brought by Jaina, Sylvanas and nova as well at 16.

>>128686172
Can't gall still use abilities while stunned? Stunning cho'gall isn't that bad.

>>128686457
>brought by Jaina, Sylvanas and nova as well at 16.

At 16 is the important part here.

>>128686293
>4 stack
>not cancerous cunts that suck shit but blame the one guy who's actually trying
things that never happened

>>128686615
>>128686457
Cho's damage mitigation comes from him using abilities and AAs, so stunning him is more damaging than you'd think.

>>128686750
>play 4 stack with friends
>we all just scream at each other and tell each other how bad we think the others are
>act super nice to the 5th guy unless hes some foreigner
>end up making quite a few friends like this

This was in Dota 2 though. This game needs voice chat.

>>128686684
The game is usually decided by around 20 unless it's a stomp, you are just saying Cho'gall will be non-viable unless you are stomping their team before gaint killer or 16.

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>>128686967
>having voice chat
>with Blizzard's fan base

Bad idea.

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>>128686967
>some foreigner
>in an online game
americans, rofl

>>128685491

W gets every talent passed 10. Triple strike n charge usually.

Some Q buffs (I take the shield cd reduction rather than follow through and the faster cd). Timed/aimed right, you can get shield cd+a second of damage avoidance/escape an aoe.

Ult at 20 dependent on whether you want more shield procs or more rape

>>128687159
Yeah, when someone's speaking russian in the US West server, they're probably a filthy foreigner

>>128685810
Were Raynor and Muradin considered OP before the scaling changes though? I know they were good but not first picks

>>128687453
Muradin has always been good, Raynor was actually getting recognized as being good before scaling.

>>128687148
how would it be any different than any other online game?

will u guys be playing D3 today when the new season begins? we could make a group

>>128688667
I'm going to roll a Fem crusader and some anon suggested to play her as Johanna

>>128689080
Punish, Condemn, Shield Glare, Falling Sword, Blessed Shield, and Iron Skin?

>>128689080
i can already see the 4 man group including Khara, Nazeebo, Sonya and Johanna being thematically played

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bets.....

>>128689972
blue team, rank 1s means victory

>>128686615
Cocoon and Maw would like a word with you.

>>128689080
That doesn't sound too good. I'm rolling a Crusader as well probably and I'm going to stay far from that meme.

>>128689910
That sounds like a pretty shitty group honestly. I mean I guess Barb might be able to spin to win if she gets the set bonus.

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Are you anons ready for Tracer?

>>128690367
If she is anything like Weaver, then fuck yea.

>>128690367
I'm ready for Tyrande nerfs.

>>128690367
You know she's not the next character they are releasing right? She's going to come out with Overwatch.

>>128690630
There's nothing wrong with a little preemptive want.

Did I make a mistake getting Rexxar?

I played him the first time he was free and I remembered him being really fun. Now it seems like nobody is afraid of him and knows how to deal with him. He feels weaker and clunkier than I remember.

>>128691165
Greymane can stick to you and people are playing him a lot, he's not illidan tier but any hard chasing hero can lock you unless you get some lucky W's

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>>128690071
to the surprise of absolutely nobody the team with tyrande raynor kt won

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sorry

>>128690506
>>128691559
>no balance patch
>just another 40% winrate hero
hhhehehe

>>128678339
Sure, but not even stuff like ranged locusts? Or is grabbing a few push talents and a few hat talents super bad?

>>128677680
Anyone have some more advice?

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>>128691698
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>greymane asking me how I did so much damage

Praise the MOON

>>128690630
Overwatch is coming out sometime in April/May which means she'll either be the hero after next or the hero after that.

Li-Ming is next, literally everything is pointing in that direction. Tracer is probably after that.

Also, Artanis came out nearly a month before LOTV.

>>128692207
ignore whoever told you not to take locust talents, they're amazing. 13/16+ you can put out insane pressure on a lane while teamfights happen elsewhere. you do need to actually bodysoak and position aggressively with that build, but if you don't, you're a huge hindrance to your team anyway.

you're generally best off going mine talents at 1, 4, and 7, especially on maps where people rotate a lot. towers of doom and cursed hollow come to mind. slowing rotations is underrated.

use your clone liberally, its only a 50s cooldown. that talent is the only reason aba is still playable since symbiote build isn't great right now.

aba doesn't do great in qm since theres too many meme heroes like nova and cho'gall, and people tend to be less tryhard/coordinated. some games are just unwinnable, don't worry too much about them. aba needs a base level of competence from your team, he can't carry complete shitters.

What happens if Abathur clones Cho'gall?

>>128693707
He only moves cho, and the bomb never explodes

>>128693852
Yeah, it's pretty disappointing.

>>128693254
Overwatch is coming out early June.

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>>128691763
They've straight up said they are working on changes for her.

>>128694932
they're also working on bans, a death recap, a passable reconnect system, fixing the past 5 garbage heroes they've released, decent matchmaking, and god knows what else i'm forgetting.

blizz moves at a fucking glacial pace with this game. maybe i'd care what dbro said if he delivered on the other dozen empty promises he makes every single day.

>>128695387
don't forget the arena lmao. they announce that and its not even coming out till 2017 probably.

>>128695387
Yeah but those are match making changes. These are balancing changes. If you can't tell the different I'm sorry for you.

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bc you guys can't seem to remember this for more than 12 hours

>>128695387
>fixing the past 5 garbage heroes

Rexxar, Medic, and Artanis are fixed. Medic is good, Artanis is good but doesn't have a roll in the meta currently, and Rexxar is the same except not as good.

The only hero really in need of completely ground up fixing is Lunara right now.

>>128695652
Why do you keep posting that? It doesn't prove anything. I could write some crap like that and then take a pic and post it too.

>>128695652
>there are people in this thread right now that actually think this was a serious post

>>128695694
artanis is worse than thrall in all situations

>>128695652
Millhouse Manastorm (February 9th)

Gui Montag (March 15th)

Dr. Boom (April 26th)

Lord Jaraxxus (June 7th)

prove me wrong, protip: you can't

>>128696005
That's a really shitty argument because Thrall is a shitty Sonya in that case.

Also Artanis can easily beat Thrall 1v1.

>>128695652
Just to be clear I that was posted after heroes nexus revealed the datamined 12th date for Graymane

>>128691698
Proto is a faggot anyways

>>128696371
Sonya doesn't have sundering, so thrall is still better. And 1v1 never matters in serious games.