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No pandas, no murlocs, only bwing edition

>Whats New:
Greymane out, cute, and fun
Cho'gall event over

>where do I find you meme-loving faggots
/join /vg/

>What hero should I buy?
Find the ones you enjoy playing and buy those. Don't buy cheap heroes just to get into Hero League, it's not worth rushing into.


>Links nobody visits anyway
Official Site: http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/
General News: http://www.heroesnexus.com/
Tips & Tricks: http://heroesofthestorm.github.io/tips
Hero Rankings and Statistics: https://www.hotslogs.com/Default
Talent Calculator: http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator/
Free Hero Rotation: http://eu.battle.net/heroes/en/forum/topic/13604571130

Previously on /hotsg/: >>128471340
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1st for Sgt. Hammer
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something I did made op without me being the one to post it
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When will the Murloc persecution in this general end? Murloc's are people too!
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4th for panda bears and hungry swords
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>HL
>fp instalock nova
>says something in russian
oh boy, here we go
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>>128617234
I can dig that.
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>>128617442
No appreciation for Hogger here either.
You anons are a disgrace to all of Elwynn.
https://youtu.be/uvW-QTiZLQ0
End discrimination, vote for Greymeme 2016, imported directly from The Order: 1886.
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Where the FUCK is Maiev????
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>>128617834
After Ol' Murk Eye.
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>>128617953
>tfw you look at that pic and pick out all of the individual murlocs there that are Hearthstone cards and then feel bad about how lazy Blizzard is
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>>128618124
>maylgos is some other dragon (Kalecgos)
>bloodmage thalnos is some random skellington (Turov the Risen)
>stampeding kodo isnt a fucking kodo its a clefthoof
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>>128617834
I expect to see her come out on the WoW: Legion release date.
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Is the yeti noise when murky has the murlock skin from March of the bronze the most pleasant sound in the game?
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>>128618808
>Mal'Ganis isn't Mal'Ganis.
>Fist of Jaraxxus isn't a picture of Jaraxxus.
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>>128618808
>>128619354
>Dragon Consort isn't a consort
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>>128619348
Murky doesn't have shit on Lauren Tom's soothing, beautiful, melodic voice.
http://vocaroo.com/i/s05aX8DsBGza
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1qVKipGgdtl
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>suck at the game
>blame team for everything
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>>128617757
That elf skin for Tyrande when?
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>>128619956
>Best voice.
>Not Johanna.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5jKVtTW7Ss
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>>128619956
>tfw Li Li is some old ass lady
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>tfw you live in South America and pretty much only play in the Brazilian server because of proximity and latency
I don't know how shit are russians, but huezilians are insufferable babies and fucking shit at Hots
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>>128620207
>tfw Johanna will never use condemn to pull you close to her
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>>128620081
I do this too, why is everyone except me so bad at this game?!?
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>>128620081
>>128621395
Jokes aside, people who're actually good at the game are less likely to flame their team in-game even when their team does suck. You'll almost never see people bitch unless they're very obviously the worst player on the team.
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>>128621824
>I never bitch at people so I obviously lost because of the guy who is bitching
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>>128621824
>You'll almost never see people bitch unless they're very obviously the worst player on the team.

I seriously wonder if this idea came about because flamers just rubbed people the wrong way and they felt the need to invalidate the flamer entirely.
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>>128620207
Alright, yeah. Johanna is best.
>>128620307
>Calling the voice actor of Samurai Jack's mother an old ass.
>Jinx from Teen Titans old ass.
>Dana Tan from Batman Beyond old ass.
>Amy Wong from Futurama old ass.
Comon man she might as well be voiced by Sarah Silverman. Vanellope is basically Li Li.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/32533763/some%20fuckin%20twat.mp4
>>128621824
Kinda. Generally I like to believe that people realize that there's just not enough time to type out every flaw that is happening when they could be dropping their latest mixtape on a creep wave.
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>>128620207
>Johanna
>Not Nova / Li-Ming
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>Shrines
>we have a Sonya
>keeps getting butthurt at a Muradin that constantly takes merc camps
>not a move I'd agree with but he seems friendly enough so I leave him to it
>Sonya just keeps flaming
>tell them to shut the fuck up
>"B-But m-muh rank 1 means I'm good!"
>look at their match history
>no hero league at all, on a 5 loss streak, no notable win streaks at all
>point out how they've done the lowest damage and died eleven times as Sonya
>they just say the reason I'm still rank 10 is because I focus on stats too much

She blamed the Muradin doing camps for her deaths because we were one man in a fight but if that's the case why jump in like a fucking sperg?

Rank reset when, we fucking need it.
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>>128620207
THE CRUSADE CALLS
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>>128622225
In other mobas you can carry, so like in league if you are bronze or gold it is 100% your fault, but people think they are just being held back by their teams, which is not the case because you can carry games.
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Why is Brightshit so bad?
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>>128622023
I promise, I'm not so saintly that I can keep myself from flaming in game when I get frustrated.

Right now I'm just talking about the psychology though. Bad players are less likely to evaluate their own mistakes and realize their screw ups than good players, if they could, they probably wouldn't be so bad.

That might not mean a whole lot on its own since it only explains why a lot of bad players don't ever seem to get better, but I think it should be a given to everyone that flaming isn't practical. No one ever listens to that shit, and in the worst case scenario you're going to play worse for and your team will play worse for it. At best it's the last resort you go to when you've decided you're doing all you can to win the game and your team needs to get it together.

If you can bring yourself to believe in both of those statements, it draws a pretty easy conclusion. A bad player will not be able to evaluate their mistakes, as a result they will not be able to identify what they can do to win a game, so they're more inclined to flame because a good player in a similar situation will be able to identify what's wrong and find ways to solve the problem, or failing that they probably won't flame because it's impractical when they want to win.

Plus anyways, set yourself aside entirely. Just watch for the people who complain when you're playing, and I bet you'll find that it's usually the guy on your team who's making his own calls when the rest of your team is all on the same silent page.
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>>128623165
>Focused too easily
>Shitters not using blink right
>Shitters not using wind right
>Not picking her for the right comp
>not specing mist and dust with TLV on your team
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>>128623290
>Rexxar doesn't watch minimap
>plays single player in top lane all day
>even though we somehow manage to get objective without him
>whenever he gets ganked he says "that's bs"
What's bs about it?
Do people not realize that every action has a consequence? Can they not grasp the scales of risk and reward?
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>>128623290
you say all this and it makes some sense and i'd like to agree with it, but i have not actually observed this relation in my experience
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>>128623165
>stun + burst meta
>bw has low burst healing
she just doesn't have a place in the game atm
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>>128620207

That's not how you say Valla.

>"You don't touch the Night Elf demon hunters like that."
>whyboner
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so how long until they announce anything coming up?
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>diablo came from dumpster tier to god tier

Wtf happened?
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>>128622294
am i the only one who wants to put Sylvanas' feet in my mouth?
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>Haunted Mines got removed
>While Dragon Shire exists

What the actual fuck?
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>>128632261
>map that requires a lot of teamwork vs a map that snowballs uncontrollably leading to 5 minute game
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>>128632138
naw he's still not good :^)
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>>128632261
>most balanced map is kept
>most snowbally map removed

I had my best winning percentage on mines but it wasn't a good map I miss it though ;_;7
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>>128632496
>bronzedraftchat.png
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>>128632138
He got buffed.
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>>128632556
this was rank1

but yeah my mmr is shit, haven't played a lot yet
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>>128632261
I hope they remove BHB.
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>be tyrande
>diablo on the team
>diablo doesn't want to roam
>"diablo is a pusher noob"
>win, diablo says "carried hard"
i sure enjoy being the only constant
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>>128632702
what is this garbage

i hope you don't spend time on this
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>>128632261
>>128632383
I'd rather have a snowbally map that's fun than a map where,

>pussyfooting over taking shrines means getting the Dragon can take fucking ages, leading to games that just feel like they're dragging
>even when you get the dragon, compared to the plant monstrosity it's completely underwhelming
>many team comps get absolutely fucked due to a need to constantly rotate
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>>128632978
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>>128633665
its because bronzers dont actually know what to do on that map and just zero in on the objective when its better to group up and take a good fight than fucking around in the lanes as 2-3
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>enemy team has jaina and kael
>their burst fails to kill anyone
>enemy diablo charges and gets stunned, tyrande misses her stun
>we're all topped off and ready to go
>our 2 warriors pussy around
>they wait until kael and jaina get their cooldowns back
>ENGAGE
every fucking time
how hard is it to realize all heroes have cooldowns?
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There's some chink tournament going on right now

twitch gillyweedsc2
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suck it smite
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Do people actually play this game in decent numbers? I tried it recently and matchmaking seems dead as fuck.
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Playing this for the first time, is there a certain role that's good for beginners, or should I just go ahead and pick whatever I think looks neat?
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>>128636668
Yeah, the game is fine. I've heard a lot of new players complaining about matchmaking time, though, so maybe there's just issues with the matchmaker trying to find games for players without many games.
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>tfw no murloc army
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>>128636971
You've chosen a really shitty moment to start playing. The current meta is all about stuns and burst damage. So, if you plan on winning, learn to play either Kael, Diablo, Tyrande, Muradin or Raynor. These are the current top picks and they outclass all other heroes by far. Balance patch next week, here's to hoping things change.
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>>128637968
>Balance patch next week
they never said that
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>>128638176
They said they were going to start rolling out some changes in a few weeks and that was a week before Greymanne. They actually specifically said no with Greymanne but after.
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>Gaymane on the team
>he jumps in to kill a half HP tank
>dies without getting a kill
>complains that he doesn't get heals
I'm already sick of this hero
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>Duo on my team
>They intentionally feed
>Other team's 4 man premade has Tyrande Raynor Diablo Tass
That's it I'm done until they completely rework matchmaking
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>three games in a row with muted/flaming teammates or just the worst comps resulting in a loss stomp every time

But nah there isn't a forced 50 in this game guys lol.
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>Artanis free week

Kill me. Why the fuck does nobody know how to play him properly.
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>>128639870
they cant even get regular matchmaking, yet you think they have conspiracy matchmaking
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>>128639870
The comp thing may just be coincedence, but it WILL match you with players below your MMR to "balance" out total MMR on both teams.

Which means it purposefully puts you at a bit of a disadvantage with your teammates.
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>sundering into ring of ice
>balanced
are devs retarded or what?
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>>128639870
>3 games
>anywhere even fucking close to a relevant sample size
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>>128639870
im getting there!
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>>128640514
>abilities are strong
>this is bad
#justrank30things
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Anyone else watching the chink esports on gillyweeds stream?

These casters suck shit
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>>128640912
>Watching gillyweed
>Ever
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What happened to the Asian team liquid stranger who had a green shirt so he could use green screen stuff with it. I remember watching him in the older days
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>>128640993
Sorry
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>our only support is rehgar
>he spends the first 15 minutes soloing and pushing lanes
>"look my siege damage"
>diablo has 11 deaths in 15 minutes
>he's our only tank
>"fucking raynor, 100% pick"
wow
i'm somehow supposed to win this, right?
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>>128641978
O_0
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>>128642130
T_T
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>>128642187
o . o
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Where's the Chinese stream without English retards commenting over it
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>>128642257
-.- ...
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>>128642307
found it
http://www.douyutv.com/cms/zt/blizzardtv.html
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>>128642687
>livestreamer is compatible with douyutv
>but it can't find the stream
what
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She doesnt look good today

>>128642975
?? maybe start here then click the first video
http://www.douyutv.com/directory/game/HOTS
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>>128642893
>Lost Balance on GoT
rip C9
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>>128643029
weird
that link just made things even worse
oh well, i'll just watch it with their player
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>>128622294
>>128620307
>>128619956
Lauren Tom was a qt MILF on Supernatural.
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it is pretty cute that they are using america raynor
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>>128642687
I installed their app and managed to find the game cuz the site wouldn't work :!
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Artanis is really fun
>W'ing fool to death, pretty much no one can stand their ground with me
>trying to escape? oh no you don't, come back here > E
>stylish finisher with Q
>"psssh nothing personel, lower lifeform..."
Artanis is fun
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>>128643746
Im watching it on their website
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>it's a "our silenced kael deals less damage than tyrande" episode
>he keeps spamming pings
>always out of position
>our team has 6 deaths, 5 of them are his
>he added me as a friend after we win
>i accepted just for the lols
>he calls me trash because i first picked tyrande
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>>128643936
On your phone?
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>>128643082
rip your prediction
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>Evil One
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memewolf damage nerf when
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>>128644482
>just
you suck anon
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>>128644482
>Baww why can assassins assassinate me???
Fuck off bronzie
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>faggot first picks lunara
queue dodging should be legal in these cases
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Greymane sure is op
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>second phase of bans before red team has a second pick phase

What
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>>128644709
First week is always rough on new heroes, because baddies don't know what to do with them. It'll increase in the coming weeks
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>>128644709
>>128644569
>>128644512

You realize he's ridiculously strong but most players are shit at this game so you don't actually realize it yet right.
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>>128644709
>b-b-but muh new hero!!
>>128644772
>people said this about lunara
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>>128620081
>be rank 1 god
>keep getting matched with level 30s that pick stitches and die 7 times
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>>128644845
You're right, we need more weak characters like Lunara and Tychus. Nerfs when?
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>>128643846
Tales from bronze where no one picks stuns
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>>128645001

>Lunara

objectively shit desu
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>playing a comfy QM game as Chen
>other team is 3 members of bob Ross fan club
>give up before the game even starts, just casually slapping people with my stick and drinking
>participate in team fights but not putting any effort in
>nova on my team says FUCKING CHEN USELESS SHIT
>he has 8 deaths and less damage than me
>I've literally been afk warned 5 times

Damn. That was a mad nova
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When will I hit master medic
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>tfw derank to rank 11
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Why is Muradin so fun
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>>128644845
>>128644772
yeah he might make it all the way to 45% wins
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>silenced player is last pick
>he picks lunara even though we needed a support
i'm lovin it
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>tfw I'm going to rank to 7 this weekend
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Tassadar meme week is the most annoying shit
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I'm using this build as thrall recently
http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator/thrall#kHkD

What do you guys think?
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>medic and chogall people fell over themselves to defend their shitty release
>greymane people fall over their self to defend his shitty release
Dustin is that you
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>>128646224
not bad, it seems like a pretty standard build
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>Playing Monk in QM you can skip the rest
>Nobody bothering to stop mercs and Graymane from destroying our fort in top
>Ping and go alone until Chen shows up
>Chen chases Graymane all the way back to their gate while our fort is taken down
>"wtf Khara why no chase that could have been a kill"
>we're 2 levels behind now that the fort is gone

So my question is, is kill xp when they're lvl 12 significant enough to not try and save a fort? I told him chasing was worthless at that point and he spent the rest of the match blogging about how I need to learn the math for this game. Oh, and then he blamed me (heal spec) for not securing 3 kills when we lost with like 7 to 30 something kills.

tl;dr I need a HOTS math nerd.
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>>128646260
And artanis.

Funny how people are still buying newly released heroes.
Not even with "muh infinite gold" because they're riding around on circus lions.
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>mfw illidan not buffed yet
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>>128636615
>winning by just shy of 0.1%
yeah fuck you equally underrated MOBA.
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>why did u pick be bro
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>>128646760
havent seen a single lion mount yet
the bundle is so fucking bad its like blizzard tries to get the money back they "lost" during the sale
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>>128646760
gold to purchase hero
cash to buy ringmaster skin
that is how I roll
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>>128647321
I really am curious about how well greymane has sold. I would imagine he's probably the worst selling hero yet
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>Play DPS hero
>Tanks dont know how to frontline and disengage

>Play tank
>Soak up 85K+ damage over course of game in fights and stun heroes who actually need it
>DPS can't figure out target prioritization

Why is solo queue so suffering
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>>128645975
>>128646087
>>128646234
>>128646339
>>128646513
>>128646885
>>>/global/rules/13
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>>128647421
>50% off sale during crimmas may have drained the pocket books
>target demo is back in classes HS & cool leg
>Lunara leaving a bad taste in player mouths
>another hero with a possibly difficult mehanix to learn
>old dude that's kinda obscure
>skin is weird
>mount is meh

pick any of 'em.
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So Towers of Doom is 100% the worst map in the game with Mines gone right
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>>128647894
Without a doubt.
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>>128647894
yes.
poor design, poor music, a boss not worth fighting for.
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>>128647894
I like the idea and the announcers.
otherwise there seems to be some seriously busted issues with the map.
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gillyweed and zoia casting is the cringiest thing i have seen on hots scene in a while.
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>>128644772
>First week is always rough on new heroes, because baddies don't know what to do with them
>>128644845
>You realize he's ridiculously strong but most players are shit at this game so you don't actually realize it yet right.


Leoric was released July 21st. By August 3rd he had the number 1 win rate on hot dogs.

What is with these retards thinking that they have some secret knowledge or skills that nobody else can understand
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What's the best spec for Muradin?
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>mfw playing against a morales/hammer lane

This should be instant b.net ban desu
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>>128645863
Jumping dwarf with both a hammer and an axe. 10/10.

>>128649632
Reverberation, Thunder Burn, Piercing Bolt, Avatar, Thunder Strike, Stoneform and Hardened Shield.

I like to pick Heavy Impact and Unstoppable Force though.

>>128649990
>Infernal Shrines
>My team consists of Butcher, Raynor, Brightwing, Zagara and Greymane
>Playing against Morales, Greymane, Hammer, Nova and Abathur (which clones Greymane)
WinStreak.exe stopped working.
Also, Butcher was like "I will charge Morales and we will kill her, easy win". Good luck with that, Fresh Mate.
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>>128650726

Morales is worse than Rehgar ever was tbqh.
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>>128647814
>He's on both teams in nearly every QM.

Pick one. More Gaymanes than Nova on free Nova week.
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>falstad bitches all game about how bad we are
>says wp when we win
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>>128651517
>Accidently queue AI instead of QM
>Everyone says GG when we win in 7 minutes
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>people say gg
>it was bg
>mfw
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>>128651664
>not saying bg every single loss and even on some wins where your team is retarded
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Muradin is too much fun to play, needs a nerf
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>>128649047
Leoric was broken levels of OP on release that's a bad comparison they needed to nerf 4 times to make him balanced
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>>128636615
>Dark Souls still almost 4000 viewers
I'm impressed
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>>128652052
indeed, 2nd most fun tank after Diablo T B H
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>>128636668
>>128637023
Dota 2 matchmaking ques are just as long. They have longer games but they also have more players.
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>>128617486
I really want to see Undead/Death Knight Li Li.

I love it when cute things get corrupted.
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>>128633697
This is like some sort of abstract art.
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>The Stone Guardians on Sky Temple do the Egyptian dance when caught in a Mosh Pit by ETC

The minor details, man.
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Rehgar is best support. Just a reminder.
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>there will never be a 5 vs 5 custom game made up entirely by /vg/ players
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>>128652206
yeah but the point was that heroes that are "ridiculously powerful" don't have 40% winrates, just because they are new
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>>128649990
>>128650726
unlike most other heroes, Muradin actually has more than one viable talent choice in some tiers and picking Infused Hammer, Sledgehammer, Crowd Control Give 'em The Axe, or Unstoppable Force is all sometimes right.
>tfw Sledgehammer and Thunderstrike on BoE
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>Play Diablo
>Suddenly I am in a team of pubbies versus a five stack
>My team is me, Tychus, Kael, Brightwing, Butcher while the stack is a Tyrande, Diablo, Raynor, Sylvanas and Muradin

Blizzard is a fucking liar, told me they fixed matchmaking and then suddenly putting me in this. Fucking hell, that was the most suffering of a wombo combo I had to watch everyone suffer
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>>128658575
Pretty sure Give em' the Axe is never better than Stoneform. Unless they have that shit of damage. In which case it probably doesn't matter your going to win anyways.
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>>128658780
in a case where Give 'em The Axe is better than Stoneform, you've probably won in matchmaking anyway, but I added it in because it's fun
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>>128649047

Leoric is a very easy hero to play. Almost Raynor tier. Not a big surprise his winrate was fairly even/high first week or two when he has practically no skill cap.

Greymane is actually fairly difficult. He has no defense besides E which goes on cd if you don't open with either ult. He does mad damage though if he gets unleashed as worgen but worgen greymane is also has a guaranteed "focus me right now" effect to every enemy player's mind.

He has interesting talents so it'll be good to see how he settles in coming few weeks. A lot of different builds possible.
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ded
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>>128662567
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>>128659901

>Greymane is actually fairly difficult.

I feel like that's why so many people are sleeping on him. He's one of the few heroes in this game with an actual skill ceiling above mouthbreather level.
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>>128663180
I wish baddies only played easy heroes so they can be useful
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>>128663584

>Tfw play an assassin or something like Raynor
>Get in a game against a competent to good memewofl
>Get jumped on and blown the fuck up because he's not a shitter every fight

>Have memewolf on my team
>Is named Rainbowdash and has fucking downs syndrome

For what purpose
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>>128659901
>>128663180
I've seen people complain that they have to turn back into a human, when I find his human form is actually generally more useful.

His Worgen form is basically like an ult used to finish people off or put pressure on people and then quickly let up. He's not someone you can just charge like crazy with you've got be more surgical picking when to go all out.
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>>128664028

Yeah, I think people don't seem to understand human form is for poking and whittling people down and you pop wolf when you're ready to blow them the fuck up. He seems really fucking strong as long as you're not shit at positioning and timing.
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>>128663714
People really underestimate just how insane burst damage he can really do. 1v1 there aren't many heroes that can beat him.
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>>128664028
>>128664138
he's basically Valla that can turn into Illidan to murder people when they're almost dead
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How do you beat Morales? She seems really, really broken.
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>>128664365
Oh
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Which female hero has the best ass?
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Any players on EU want to team up and farm XP?
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>>128665892

Red haired Nova (aka Kerrigan)
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>>128664028
I like to turn in worgen vs a zagara more often, q destroys creep like crazy
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>>128651664
>>128651719

>ever saying either one
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>>128665892
Tyrande obviously
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>>128665892
female high elf hero when. sick of this purple skinned green haired crap
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>>128665892
Li Li!
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>>128668303
Sylvanas has a skin of when she was alive and Tyrande has a Blood Elf skin.
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>>128668303
She has a high elf skin
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>>128668303
>tfw no Lady Liadrin
this game needs more paladins
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I just had the best vikings game. The art on my team was lv 13 with vikings and he gave me a lot of tips. It was a bit hard though. I've never been terror AND vikings at the same time. Also, splitting up for anything other than lanes is still a nightmare for me. We won though.
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>>128664365
She can only heal one person at a time and has no burst heals. A lot of the time if your team is focusing targets properly you can burst through her heals, but youre better off attacking someone she isnt healing or morales herself if she is out of position enough. She really isnt that broken, rehgar is a better healer in my opinion.
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>>128671064
When tyrande gets nerfed and the tone down stuns and maybe hit burst, Moralas will probably be op.
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>>128671064

She seems to make it absolutely impossible to lose a lane unless she's a shitter or WAY out of position.
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>>128671317
So focus that lane harder or push a different lane and force them to defend. Its not rocket science. Without coordinated teammates it might aswell be.
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how do I impress a girl in this game?
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>>128671924
with flowers, adventure, and brew
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Why is Malfurion a healer? He was never really known for healing in the story.
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>>128672460
because he's a druid, so he has to heal, same as Uther
>tfw no Boomkin form hero
>tfw no moonfire spam
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>>128671924
Ask Abathur
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>>128672850
Druids are more known for shapeshifting than healing
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>>128671924
Play Rexxar and land every bear tackle on a sylvanas, johanna, valla, nova, and tyrande.
Every time it lands, whisper Careless Whispers and say this is how you treat every beautiful woman - with love, care, and compassion.
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>>128672850
I don't know anything about wow but did you mean rehgar
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>>128672850
Uther is based on WCIII Paladins, which were mainly a support Hero.
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>>128664238
>illidan murdering anyone
He does no damage
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>>128673154
Rehgar is a shaman, and he turns into a wolf not a moonkin
>>128673018
not to Blizzard apparently. I Wish they'd kept Moonfire away from Malf or made him a proper Balance druid, since it sort of indicates that we won't get any other druids and Malf is stuck being an underpowered and shitty hybrid
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>>128655970
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>>128632138
He wasn't even dumpster. I played him all the time when everyone said he sucked and my winrate was 65%. After the buffs its 69.2
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Wait, did Blizzard make Worgen's all British sounding stero types just for a Werewolves of London joke
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>>128673467
In the story Malfurion never really healed anyone, he was more about spamming op abilities to kill enemies.
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>>128673467
Uther is a druid?
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>>128671307
this is likely true for a few heroes

even greymane probably would have been pretty good outside of the current cancer meta
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>>128671307
When Tyrande gets nerfed I'm just gonna start playing Kharazim more. He has crazy ass AoE heals and he also comes with the benefit of punching people in the fucking teeth.
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>>128673901
I mean the meta is always going to be cancer, and there are going to be heroes that people complain about. Remember when people cried non stop about Tychus being OP or BW?
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>>128673716
yes. It's also why Gilneas is Victorian England when all the other human kingdoms are generic medieval France
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>>128674148
things havent been this bad for a long time, and when things were this bad, it wasnt for nearly as long
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>>128673716
Pretty sure in there's an NPC named Worgen Zevon in WoW somewhere, or something similar
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>>128674148
Tye randy is going to get the bw treatment
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>>128665892
Master Skin Jaina
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Man...there sure is something about that Win 3 Games quest that suddenly comes with a curse of making you lose games in the most unexpected ways possible

I probably should stop playing QM or Ranked whenever I get that quest
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>>128674625
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Milhouse when?
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blizzard should bring back the old cleanse this fucking stun meta is killing me
literally
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>>128674625
I can't play hots where Tyrande is no longer a viable pick
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>>128675086
ahead of grom, garrosh, medivh, gul'dan and probably kel'thuzad
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>>128675245
nah we need Cairne
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>>128675226
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>>128675424

Nah we need this nigga.
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is there a model viewer for this similar to the wow one?
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>>128675086
>>128675580
You people are like a fucking plague trying to destroy this game even further. FUCK OFF WITH YOUR MEME CHARACTERS!
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>>128665892
Medic is pretty damn thick.

I want a skin of her out of armor like Raynor/Tychus.
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>>128675657
one site had one, it shut down like 6 months ago saying it would be back soon
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>>128675580
>David Bowie just died
>Area 52 has a bunch of references to Space Oddity
Dr. Boom confirmed
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>>128675868
HeroKing right?
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>>128638176
This skin for Cho'Gall when???
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>>128676274
yep. That was it.

The only other choice is some guy has ported many of the models to sfm, or you can import them into something like 3dstudio max yourself


>>128676330
We've all been waiting for swimsuits
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>>128676274
Yeah it was part of ZAM or whatever, same owner as wowhead, it took down a few sites because of server issues, still no news
>>128675580
I would literally take any meme character over dr.boom, no personality or dialog (yeah butcher.) , and a meme because not how op he was, but because blizzard can't into decent 7 minions
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Motherfucking when?
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>>128676996
Like this or riot
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>>128675226
Don't worry people will complain about the next op thing and say it's the most cancerous meta just like every meta, and Tyrande will probably get buffed after being unviable for a month or 2.
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>>128677163
Do you niggers forget the game was Almost balanced before blizzcon

Way the fuck closer than it is now where 70%+ of the roster is shit
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>>128676996
Gnome female when?
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>>128677343
with Jaina and Kael'thas?
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>>128676996
>>128677137
>>128677353
>inb4 Li-Ming has Time Stop instead of a Bronze Dragon
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>>128677512
I remember chu bitching non-stop about Jaina lol now after the scaling changes he doesn't touch her because she is too weak
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I feel like Abathur has a lot of variety in terms of builds, depending on maps and comps. Especially in QM, where he's not relegated to crazy pushing all game.

However, I can't help but worry if I'm fucking my team by grabbing certain talents. What talents are completely worthless or just don't stand alone?

Lately, I keep getting frustrated by Blackheart. My team never seems to be where I want them to be.
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>>128677343
or the fact that we havent had the balance worked on in 2 fucking months, right after the biggest rebalance the ever had effecting every single unit

>>128677512
The most fucked thing were before right now, was when Leo and Jo were at ~70% pick rates
That is nothing compared to the shit we have right now
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>>128677695
Jaina has over 100% pick rate, Kael'thas was up there as well.
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>>128677680
Skip pushing, it's shit, go for teamfight symbiote talents.
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>>128677960
Last full week before the new scaling
2 heroes with 70% pick rates, next highest was under 60%
Also this is how fucking long tye randy has been #1
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when are they announcing their balance changes?
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>>128671924
the only way you can impress a girl in this game is by not playing this game
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Alright /hotsg/ I have a good one for you:
Name me all the heroes that you think are balanced and why
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man i'm getting real tyred of Tyrande
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>>128678915
you have to explain why heroes are imbalanced, not the other way around
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>>128678425
>Illidan was slightly better than Raynor and diablo
>Kerrigan almost there
>Thrall was way below them

Good old times
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>>128678915
Uh... Li Li. Lt. Morales. Valla. ETC.

They do stuff, but aren't end all, be all.
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>>128678915
Almost every support excluding tyrande and probably Tas
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>>128679392
you think Tass is UP/OP? how so?
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Guys

Upcoming heroes vids when?????????????

New event when????????????
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>>128680592
maybe next year
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>>128678915

Jo, Uther, Rehgar, Sylvanas, Zagara

All I can think of right now, my game has loaded.
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>>128646656
it's kind of situational, if the fort was beyond saving and you could have safely secured the kill, I would have went with Chen.
also:
>Underdog Bonus. A team that is behind the opposing team gets an "underdog bonus" for every enemy hero that is killed. The amount of bonus XP earned per takedown will scale significantly based on how many levels apart the teams are, and caps off at a four-level difference. Bonus XP will be granted for each takedown until team levels become even. Additionally, a team that is ahead in levels now earns fewer experience points for takedowns, and the effects work inversely. Likewise, this handicap ceases when the teams are leveled
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>enter draft
>"pro greymane here"
>check history
>lost 3 of his last 4 games with greymane
>check hero collection
>2-3 games away from level 5
>"pick someone else please"
>locks in greymane anyway

New heroes should be banned from ranked for a week or two
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>playing Abathur will never be a satisfying experience
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>>128681728
Don't worry, I'm bad at Abathur too.
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>>128681728
>hiding the fact that it was a 35 minute game and literally every tower and wall is dead on both sides
lel worth it XD!
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Why does Raynor get a 1.5 second stun? What were they thinking?
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>>128682694
>Why does Muradin get a 1.5 second stun? What were they thinking?
>Why does Kael'thas get a 1.5 second stun? What were they thinking?
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>>128683048
Kael's is fine because it doesn't do damage, but the width should be smaller it's way too easy to hit. Mura should only get 1 sec, but Raynor is already high damage and they put a stun on a high damage ability, he shouldn't have a stun.
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>>128683552
But it knocks them away so you can't chase with it and it takes a high level talent.
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Rexxar's fixate should work differently. It should mark an enemy if and enemy is targeted, if that enemy is out of range, Misha should maintain the nearest possible distance.

That and Rexxar should be able to get feign death at least one level earlier.

His main issue is that Misha's control is just clunky due to how leash range works. Either change it to what I've said or simply have Misha control via TLV and give her a damage penalty (40-50%) and hp Regen penalty for being outside "leash range" of Rexxar.

Blizzard can discard a lot of talent and create a Rexxar centrist talent set. Right now Rexxar is just there to support Misha.
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>>128683552
>nerf Muradin
>Kael is fine
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>>128683552
>only ranged assassin with a stun baseline
>can hit up to 3 targets from level one
>easily out damages other ranged assassins while also having a warrior's stun
>fine because it doesn't deal damage
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If more than 1 person DCs they should offer a surrender option fr the remaining people. This is fucking shit.
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>>128684185
Mura needs a nerf, but making the stun harder to hit on kael is a nerf to him, did you not read? He needs nerfs in other areas though.
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how do I build artanus?
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>>128678915
>Name me all the heroes that you think are balanced and why

I'd actually say that the majority of heroes that aren't blatantly underpowered like Gazlowe, Tychus, or Lunara are actually fairly balanced.

The problem right now is that Tyrande is so degenerate that her synergy is allowing characters who normally wouldn't be a problem like Diablo to run completely fucking unchecked in the meta. There's a reason why Diablo was barely picked during Heroes Rising since Tyrande was insta-banned in every single match-up.

Right now I'd say that Muradin, Kael'thas, Tyrande, and Raynor are the heroes that are most deserving of a nerf right now. Once that happens, I think we'll see far far greater team comp diversities then we have before. Cho'gall for instance is a hero that could be good if Tyrande and Raynor weren't so completely out of whack.
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>>128685810
Tyrande doesn't really counter Cho'gall, giant killer is what fucks him up. Cho'gall will be worse when Graymane is viable though since he get 3% max health per hit at 16.
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>>128686046
Vuln and Stun fuck up Cho'gall badly.
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>end up alongside a 4-stack as Greymane
>Dragon Shrine
>mfw they're all rank 1 and I'm just rank 10
>ask what build I should go
>"q build"
>alright
>hold top lane mostly by myself but Khara comes to help for a bit at some point
>laning vs an Anub and an Abathur who's hatting him and put mines everywhere around the shrine
>sometimes manage to make 1v1 trades but still end up feeding a lot
>mfw the rest of my teammates have no deaths at all
>thankfully they don't flame but they don't say anything either, they're just quiet
>mfw eventually joined in on big teamfights and managed to secure kills with my ulti

A bit of a weird experience but was a fun game nonetheless.
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>>128686172
A 1 second stun doesn't really counter him, vaulnerability is brought by Jaina, Sylvanas and nova as well at 16.
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>>128686172
Can't gall still use abilities while stunned? Stunning cho'gall isn't that bad.
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>>128686457
>brought by Jaina, Sylvanas and nova as well at 16.

At 16 is the important part here.
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>>128686293
>4 stack
>not cancerous cunts that suck shit but blame the one guy who's actually trying
things that never happened
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>>128686615
>>128686457
Cho's damage mitigation comes from him using abilities and AAs, so stunning him is more damaging than you'd think.
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>>128686750
>play 4 stack with friends
>we all just scream at each other and tell each other how bad we think the others are
>act super nice to the 5th guy unless hes some foreigner
>end up making quite a few friends like this

This was in Dota 2 though. This game needs voice chat.
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>>128686684
The game is usually decided by around 20 unless it's a stomp, you are just saying Cho'gall will be non-viable unless you are stomping their team before gaint killer or 16.
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>>128686967
>having voice chat
>with Blizzard's fan base

Bad idea.
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>>128686967
>some foreigner
>in an online game
americans, rofl
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>>128685491

W gets every talent passed 10. Triple strike n charge usually.

Some Q buffs (I take the shield cd reduction rather than follow through and the faster cd). Timed/aimed right, you can get shield cd+a second of damage avoidance/escape an aoe.

Ult at 20 dependent on whether you want more shield procs or more rape
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>>128687159
Yeah, when someone's speaking russian in the US West server, they're probably a filthy foreigner
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>>128685810
Were Raynor and Muradin considered OP before the scaling changes though? I know they were good but not first picks
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>>128687453
Muradin has always been good, Raynor was actually getting recognized as being good before scaling.
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>>128687148
how would it be any different than any other online game?
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will u guys be playing D3 today when the new season begins? we could make a group
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>>128688667
I'm going to roll a Fem crusader and some anon suggested to play her as Johanna
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>>128689080
Punish, Condemn, Shield Glare, Falling Sword, Blessed Shield, and Iron Skin?
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>>128689080
i can already see the 4 man group including Khara, Nazeebo, Sonya and Johanna being thematically played
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bets.....
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>>128689972
blue team, rank 1s means victory
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>>128686615
Cocoon and Maw would like a word with you.
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>>128689080
That doesn't sound too good. I'm rolling a Crusader as well probably and I'm going to stay far from that meme.

>>128689910
That sounds like a pretty shitty group honestly. I mean I guess Barb might be able to spin to win if she gets the set bonus.
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Are you anons ready for Tracer?
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>>128690367
If she is anything like Weaver, then fuck yea.
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>>128690367
I'm ready for Tyrande nerfs.
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>>128690367
You know she's not the next character they are releasing right? She's going to come out with Overwatch.
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>>128690630
There's nothing wrong with a little preemptive want.
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Did I make a mistake getting Rexxar?

I played him the first time he was free and I remembered him being really fun. Now it seems like nobody is afraid of him and knows how to deal with him. He feels weaker and clunkier than I remember.
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>>128691165
Greymane can stick to you and people are playing him a lot, he's not illidan tier but any hard chasing hero can lock you unless you get some lucky W's
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>>128690071
to the surprise of absolutely nobody the team with tyrande raynor kt won
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>>128690506
>>128691559
>no balance patch
>just another 40% winrate hero
hhhehehe
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>>128678339
Sure, but not even stuff like ranged locusts? Or is grabbing a few push talents and a few hat talents super bad?

>>128677680
Anyone have some more advice?
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>>128691698
i really like this post desu
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>greymane asking me how I did so much damage

Praise the MOON
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>>128690630
Overwatch is coming out sometime in April/May which means she'll either be the hero after next or the hero after that.

Li-Ming is next, literally everything is pointing in that direction. Tracer is probably after that.

Also, Artanis came out nearly a month before LOTV.
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>>128692207
ignore whoever told you not to take locust talents, they're amazing. 13/16+ you can put out insane pressure on a lane while teamfights happen elsewhere. you do need to actually bodysoak and position aggressively with that build, but if you don't, you're a huge hindrance to your team anyway.

you're generally best off going mine talents at 1, 4, and 7, especially on maps where people rotate a lot. towers of doom and cursed hollow come to mind. slowing rotations is underrated.

use your clone liberally, its only a 50s cooldown. that talent is the only reason aba is still playable since symbiote build isn't great right now.

aba doesn't do great in qm since theres too many meme heroes like nova and cho'gall, and people tend to be less tryhard/coordinated. some games are just unwinnable, don't worry too much about them. aba needs a base level of competence from your team, he can't carry complete shitters.
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What happens if Abathur clones Cho'gall?
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>>128693707
He only moves cho, and the bomb never explodes
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>>128693852
Yeah, it's pretty disappointing.
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>>128693254
Overwatch is coming out early June.
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>>128691763
They've straight up said they are working on changes for her.
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>>128694932
they're also working on bans, a death recap, a passable reconnect system, fixing the past 5 garbage heroes they've released, decent matchmaking, and god knows what else i'm forgetting.

blizz moves at a fucking glacial pace with this game. maybe i'd care what dbro said if he delivered on the other dozen empty promises he makes every single day.
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>>128695387
don't forget the arena lmao. they announce that and its not even coming out till 2017 probably.
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>>128695387
Yeah but those are match making changes. These are balancing changes. If you can't tell the different I'm sorry for you.
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bc you guys can't seem to remember this for more than 12 hours
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>>128695387
>fixing the past 5 garbage heroes

Rexxar, Medic, and Artanis are fixed. Medic is good, Artanis is good but doesn't have a roll in the meta currently, and Rexxar is the same except not as good.

The only hero really in need of completely ground up fixing is Lunara right now.
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>>128695652
Why do you keep posting that? It doesn't prove anything. I could write some crap like that and then take a pic and post it too.
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>>128695652
>there are people in this thread right now that actually think this was a serious post
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>>128695694
artanis is worse than thrall in all situations
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>>128695652
Millhouse Manastorm (February 9th)

Gui Montag (March 15th)

Dr. Boom (April 26th)

Lord Jaraxxus (June 7th)

prove me wrong, protip: you can't
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>>128696005
That's a really shitty argument because Thrall is a shitty Sonya in that case.

Also Artanis can easily beat Thrall 1v1.
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>>128695652
Just to be clear I that was posted after heroes nexus revealed the datamined 12th date for Graymane
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>>128691698
Proto is a faggot anyways
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>>128696371
Sonya doesn't have sundering, so thrall is still better. And 1v1 never matters in serious games.
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>>128696639
Sonya has Wrath of the Berserker and all that natural CC resistance that every has in this Meta. So Thrall can Sunder and then get stun locked all he wants.

Still worse than Sonya.
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>>128696005
They serve completely different purposes in a team fight.
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>>128696639
Thrall is not better than Sonya. Maybe he has an edge on her in some situations because Sonya is allergic to stuns, but you must be high on cocks to think she wouldn't evaporate him 9/10
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>>128696928
He has higher damage, and his heal is very strong. No one can really 1v1 thrall
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>>128696991
You just said that 1v1 didn't matter. Also people can easily 1v1 Thrall. Squishy characters can't, but they aren't supposed to 1v1 people.
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>>128696991
Confirmed cock snorter.
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>>128696928
thrall wins trades with sonya since the scaling patch
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>>128697103
No one can 1v1 Thrall he is too strong right now, his heal is too high to lose. He is the strongest melee assassin for a reason and picked all the time in tournaments.
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>>128697303
Sonya is picked more than him. The only time she isn't is when she's banned because everyone afraid of Sonya Smash.
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>Get paired with Zeratul
>At least 10 deaths
Every time
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>>128696928
>So Thrall can Sunder and then get stun locked all he wants.
This is dumb, if he just sundered that means the opponent's team is stunlocked and, therefore, dead "in this Meta".
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>>128697103
i said that 1v1 didn't matter but the guy you are replying to is not me. He might as well win 1v1, I haven't tested it and I don't care, what matters is that he wins 5v5.
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>>128696886
>So Thrall can Sunder and then get stun locked all he wants.
sundering is the strongest ultimate in the game a high damage aoe 1.5 second stun that can split up the team
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>>128696005
>artanis is worse than thrall in all situations

Because Thrall is completely broken right now? Tyrande is always better than Uther in all situations too, that doesn't make Uther bad it makes Tyrande broken.
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>>128697524
>He targets one character or doesn't hit everyone with it.
>They stun him laugh as he stands there dazed and then murder the fuck out of him.

He's strong but there's a reason why he's not a great pick right now. Sonya isn't a great pick right now either. Tyrande counters them so hard it's stupid has hell to pick them against her because the minute you go into range to attack your just going to be stunned, made vulnerable and be blown up while blowing up the rest of your team because of Chain Bomb.
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>>128696568
why
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>>128698068
Forgot. Muradin can fuck Thrall as well because of his slow on AA attacks which is where most of Thrall's damage comes from.
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>>128697870
That was directed at the part "[Artanis] doesn't have a roll in the meta currently". I just think that if a meta allowed for artanis there would still be no reason to pick him over thrall, because their roles are the same.

>>128698068
>He targets one character or doesn't hit everyone with it.
>They all miss their stuns too and he runs away laughing
See I can do that too, what's the point discussing scenarios where someone fails due to the incompetence of the player?
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>>128699999
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>tyrande is op

when did this meme start? the fuck is happening with this game?
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Wizard better have fucking archon or I'm uninstalling
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>>128698209
muradin fucks everyone though

>>128698391
>archon on wizard
>archon on tassadar
too confusing to the playerbase
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>>128698258
>Thrall runs away.
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>>128698419
>Tassadar doesn't have to be on team with Zeratul to use Archon
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>>128698451
great movie.
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>>128698380
>when
When scaling happened. With everyone's damage being higher at the start, tyrnade gank squads are way more potent. Plus, the shadowstalk buff was amazing.
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>>128698380
She only really effects high level of play when people are able to work with her ability to set up kills, but shitter like to say she is the reason they lost.
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>>128698258
Artanis and Thrall don't really serve the same role at all?

Artanis is a front line bruiser who disrupts and repositions with his E. Thrall is either an initiator or a backline poker who cleans up in melee once the heat dies down.
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>>128698193
Because he acts like a little faggot every time I've played with him (you).
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>>128698802
She can still shadowstalk two times during one fight regardless of the player level and the stun is even easier to land at the low level of play.
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>>128699035
A 780 heal at 20 on everyone over 8 seconds wow so insane. If the fight is lasting long enough for her to get off 2 there is a problem with your teams damage and focus.
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>>128695652
you were right about greymane :ooo
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>>128698391
Archon is one of the most boring spells in D3 fuck off
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>>128698891
I can't remember playing with Proto, but I know I did for sure. There was one guy who still probably plays who joined a 5 stack meme team and then raged at all of us for not trying and criticized all our ranks while he was like rank 35.
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>>128699260
there is actually a nice attack speed + battle momentum build I've been testing that allows her to get off 2 semi-consistently. The problem with it is that it requires to give up the upgraded shadowstalk for nexus frenzy and requires you to conserve mana by not throwing owls and stuns indiscriminately.
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>>128699035
Li li can get her ult off at 20 about every 10 seconds
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>>128699632
not it isn't
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>>128697462
it not used to be like this.
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>See I'm going to need good escape for a game as Greymane
>Hm, maybe eyes in the dark for some stealth
>just kidding, it works about 10% of the time. If anyone has attacked you in the last 2 seconds you will not get any stealth at all. If you have anything effecting you then you will also not get any stealth at all.

Great game Blizzard
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>>128699687
I wasn't commenting on his skill. In fact, I'm pretty sure he's ranked well and competent too. He just acts like a social retard. Maybe he thinks it's funny, but he comes off as an underage dumbass. Played with him a couple times long past, decided to avoid it from then on.
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>>128699873
The problem with LiLi is before lvl 20 in the current meta she is complete garbage.
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>play memeslug
>ahead on everything the entire game
>singlehandedly push 2 keeps with locusts
>keep nova fruitlessly chasing me and running over mines for 20 minutes
>dominate teamfights with jaina clone
>team goes to throwpit with entire enemy team up
>lose
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>>128701106
>Rehgar and Sylvanas's stealth talents are always flawless
>Shadowstalk's stealth is touchy as shit and breaks for anything
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>no items
>no last-hitting
>pretty much just overthrow

this game is so shiet
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>>128699035
I actually got fucked by the stealth on Shadowstalk and Cho'gall. It was weird.
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>Be fullhealth hammer with stoneskin and first aid
>Greymane at 40% health engages me
>He outdamages me with purely with razor swipe and autos
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>>128702813
Were you like, a billion levels down?

I've seen a lot of retarded Greymanes die to Hammer.
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>>128703206
We were both level 23

I just checked the replay Murky fed him gathering power stacks as soon as he respawned
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>>128703735
sasuga murky
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Why is Chen considered bad again?
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>>128704101
>See Chen
>Place your mouse over him
>Wait for him to start drinking
>Mash stun the second he starts drinking or storm earth and fire
>Free kill
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>>128704101
Put a bit of thought into it.
There's a lot of stuns that are widely regarded as overpowered which are causing people to die quickly.
Sometimes one of those people is going to be Chen who gets knocked out of drinking brew at a really bad time.
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>>128704101
Chen is one of the best warriors in the game if the enemy team has no stuns but if the enemy team has no stuns then you could probably win with any warrior
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>friday
>quick match
>auto select

what happened to all the players?
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>>128704101
>>128704498 said it pretty well. chen is actually god-tier as long as he doesn't get stunned. if you're last pick, need a warrior/bruiser, and the enemy team has no stuns, chen is a free win.
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>tfw Diablo 3 new season in 8 minutes.
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>>128705095
what players?
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i don't know if i'm shit or my teams are

>every game get stomped unless we luck out 18+ and maintain momentum from a handful of successful fights
>no one but me attacks supports/mages w/ flanks or whatever, just whoever they a-move onto first
>make retarded decisions like taking a boss at lv14 because we killed 2 but don't actually engage until they've respawned and ignore retreat pings
>tanks tank other tanks -- not setting up ganks on Jaina/Kael/anyone but a tank
>retarded shit like kharazim being only support but takes damage talents

seems like i'm at some mmr where every player thinks it is just shitty free-for-alls or 1v5 are good odds. Unless I play Uther or Thrall I'm probably 75% loss. playing uther at this level is just annoying as fuck too because these mongs think Q has no cd.

i do dumb shit too sometimes (usually out of greed) but these matches are just exhausting.
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>>128705130
>tfw 8 months and still no Season 1 for HotS
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>>128620207
Mary Elizabeth McGlynn is the absolute tits.

I fell in love with her voice acting when she did the opening song to Silent Hill 3 (and a bunch afterwards)
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>>128695652
The releases will not be 3 weeks apart. Feb. 9 is our next hero
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>games with no support

Welp just reminded me why I stopped playing this game. For all the "matchmaking improvements" they are making its fucking vital for a support so why are they making teams without them?

>inb4 why don't you just play support?

Support is my most played role, but I get more quests than just 3 games of support so I gotta play things some time.
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>>128705303
I can tell you the problem with Monk. A lot of people in Quick Match just have a build in mind and don't care what's on the other team and just mindlessly pick that. So if they are picking Kharazim because they wanted to damage, if he's the only support they don't fucking care.

It's why you'll see shit like Jaina not taking Ice Block even though it's needed in some matches or some Kael's not taking Arcane Barrier.
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>>128705095
Just got an instaqueue as Greymane, don't know what to tell you chief.
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>get first pick
>oh boy I get to play tyrande
>alt out after instalocking her
>come back
>my team didn't take a single piece of cc to combo with
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>>128705095
They came for greymane patch and then left because the game is still shit
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>>128704101
I wouldn't say he's bad, he's just very situational. Chen is perfectly viable given the right enemy team. The problem is that you so rarely get the right comp to pick him into, and he gets countered so hard by just one or two picks on the enemy team. IMO Chen doesn't need any straight number buffs at this point. He just needs to not be so binary. He's either okay or useless, depending on the enemy comp.
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>>128623290
this is some reddit tier bullshit
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>stop being a tier 1 tyrande, kael, raynor shitter
>play chen, artanus, kerrigan and still win

hey, this game is actually pretty f-fun now!
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>>128704101
He is useless and boring and bearfags in general are awful.
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>>128710379
I'm currently 18/2 with Greymane right now, he's ridiculously fun and the feeling of chaining his ult and getting a triple kill cannot be matched by anything else in the game. .
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>>128689910
>Monk not throwing bells everywhere and trying to heal people.
>Witch Doctor actually using Wall of Zombies.
>Barbarian actually using Ancient Spear.
>Crusader using shield line.
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>>128709531
>Bronzies are stupid subhumans
>Reddit tier bullshit
Spotted the bronze
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>>128710781
Greymane tips:
Always spec bottle. Never shapeshift Worgen unless you're absolutely certain you can clean up the entire team. Gathering Power is a trap talent.
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>>128710781
>tfw 0/4 with Greymane and not a single one was my fault
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>Towers of Doom
>I first pick Insect vagina bitch
>Teammate third picks Sgt Hammer even though we already have a specialist and rest of the team voting against it
>"Here we go"
>Game actually going pretty well
>32-20 lead
>Realize Hammer was a bot the whole time
>She finally reconnects
>Lose teamfight and shrine
>"All good, were still winning"
>Hammer spawns and goes to boss while rest of team is cleaning up lanes
>She is sitting in the bush AAing the boss
>The boss takes 1 auto attack then leashes back and heals up
>She does this for a good 45 seconds
>"How the fuck do you not see the boss healing back to full?"
>Enemy team is attacking our mid fort while she is doing this
>The other 4 of us wipe trying to defend
>She leaves boss after we die and tries to 1v5 them
>Dies
>Game goes to shit
>Check profile
>Level 6 Hammer
>3 wins

How the fuck do some of these people even breathe?
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>>128713590
Dude cmon it's just HL they're just playing to have some fun if you want to tryhard play Team League or join a pro team jeeze what a nerd lmao.
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>tfw on a 5-game winning streak with murky slime build
I know it's not the recommended hotsdogs build but damn it's fun as hell to just hold Q to win
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>enemy team has group of 4 shitters
>we have a party of 2 and 3 randoms
>one of the guys in the 2 party just starts complaining all game about how it's unfair they are a party of 4
>he and his friend are just running around doing nothing
>I'm bot 4 are mid
>no one is soaking top lane
>we lose a fight level 10 v 8
>he just won't stop fucking typing in chat
>lose
>"gg matchmaking we were doomed from the start"
the game would have been fine, I don't know why people think party size matters, I have constantly won against 5 stacks as all randoms just soak and go to objectives
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>Cursed Hollow
>I first pick Vikings
>Never played them outside of vs ai
>Tribute spawns send Erik to prevent enemy from capping it
>Soak xp with the other 2
>Win with a massive lead
>Teammate says im the best vikings they've ever seen
>Have Olaf capture camps
>Whenever im out of position sprint jump or play again
>People think vikings are hard to use
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>>128704101
Because he only has 1 build and still auto-loses to anyone with a stun, silence, or displacement
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Forced 50 cnfrmd
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>>128705387
This game is too dead for actual seasons to start. Blizzard failed to push this as an e-sport so they've pretty much flat out given up on it.

Game isn't even part of the ESPN e-sport scene.
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>quick meme
>get paired with a duo
>sure, whatever
>proceeds to feed and troll like no tomorrow
>lose horribly
>ends the game with
>smile for the camera, your salt is live on twitch tv/xxxxxxxxxxxx
>his duo friend starts spewing memes (i guess inside jokes from his channel)

hmm... i think i'm done
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>>128716197
I mean it's marketed as a casual moba, but then they try to push esports for whatever reason.
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>>128716910
All MOBAs are casual and yet still have esports scenes
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>>128717062
This is the most casual of them all
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How to fix Doe Cunt

>Melee auto attack animation is now the same as her ranged auto attack
>Health buffed slightly above Jimmys
>Galloping Gait is now baseline at level 1
>Wisp CD lowered to 25 seconds
>Skybound Wisp buffed to reveal stealth units while alive
>Timelost Wisp removed
>New talent Proximity Wisp introduced
>Proximity Wisp explodes upon death dealing small AoE damage and applying one stack of Nature's Toxin to all enemies within range

You're welcome, Blizz
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>>128718382
She will still be weak, her damage is just too low for her to be useful. Galloping gait should be baseline, she is too bad at rotating to objectives
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>>128718219
>this is the most nebulous buzzword of all the buzzwords
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>>128715490
Olaf can't do camps on his own.
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>>128718516
I feel her damage is in an alright place. She is supposed to have high multi target sustain. Her problem is she can't survive long enough to sustain it.
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Hero league, baby
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>>128718875
She can't sustain in a game where every support heals and there's a fountain like 10 feet behind your character
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>>128718870
>Viking bribery
Oh look Olaf can now take camps
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>>128705409
Holy shit that's her? I never made the connection
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whats the average HL rank?
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>>128720113
1
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>>128720113
median mmr is something like 1700 or so, no idea what rank that is. maybe 20s and 30s?
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>>128720516
>MMR coordinating to a specific rank
lol
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>>128718875
Her damage is just bad, her poison is so low it doesn't even register on murky's health bar. It takes 9 seconds for her poison to do 1.5 auto attacks worth of damage from another assassin since her auto is cut in half, half to direct and half to poison.

You can spread out your damage, but just like in a team fight if you aren't focusing down people you are going to lose it. There is no reason to bring a lunara over literally anyone else.
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>>128723032
desu the smallest change Blizzard could make that would make her at least playable would be if autoattacks stacked damage instead of time on her DoT, so instead of doing X damage over 3 seconds or 3X over 9 seconds, it just does 3X over 3 seconds after 3 hits
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>>128723572
I feel like that would be too strong, because at that point with max stacks you're taking 1.5x her auto every second. With the thorns ult its entirely possible to stack that against the entire team in just a couple seconds.
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>>128723572
that would defeat the purpose
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>7 losses in a row
>queue up as Greymane
>Hammer, Tassadar, Lunara, Zeratul
and there's number 8
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http://www.heros-analyzer.com/

Let's see em /vg/
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>unbearable loss streak because of mmr hell
>wake up this morning
>new day, fresh start, here we go!
>get team with Chogall and Displacement Grenade/Medivac build Medic
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>>128724027
It would only be .5 autos per second at max stacks, since over 9 seconds it's 1.5 autos total. .5 autos per second isn't that much.
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How bronze am I?
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>>128725416
>>128725663
>you should probably avoid Raynor and Kael'thas
ripperoni, at least I excel at Jaina, Sonya and Abathur
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>I really want to play a character who can't heal beyond giving one person on my team at a time Vampiric Assault, but guarantees the enemy team gets a healer who will always be better than me at everything but waveclearing
-the mind of a Tassadar player
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>>128726338
do you have any idea what you're talking about
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>>128726417
yes, I have lots of experience in losing games because of solo queue Tassadars forcing me to lose because he literally can't keep up with the healing of a non-retarded support that's playing anyone else
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>>128726523
well then, how come you don't know there's a build for him where your entire team may have vampiric assault for as long as they don't take half a shield of damage?

in your defence, it's still kind of iffy to pick him as a solo healer. but you really should not be giving a shit if it's qm, and the shield is still pretty good
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>>128725416
oh boy
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>>128725416
>47% is above average for Abathur
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>>128726995
>tfw you have permission to be edgy
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>it's a 5man vs 4man + me episode
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>>128725416
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>>128728735
>20 games
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>>128725416

Shes cute cute!
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>qm
>lunara on my team
fuck why can't we surrender?
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>>128731134
>boot up game
>matchmaking is somehow even worse than before
>close game
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>>128731381
>Boot up game.
>Still only one Murloc.
>Close Game.
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>>128719034
>top tier comp vs panda shit
>tied in kills
Yea this is why the game is stupid. You get bad players with good picks and decent players that troll pick.
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>>128725416
You'll never have this much devotionautism
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>>128725663
Take Diablo out, and change Jaina for Raynor, and that's basically what it told me

King of bronze 4eva
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>>128705095
>He thinks that's a long queue time

Try playing in Australia m8
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>>128691559
>Valla going 0-4
Yeah she got fucked bad by the scaling patch.
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>playing with people from /vg/
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Is the balance patch this tuesday? Are there lunara buffs?
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>>128737341
1.Maybe, maybe not.
2.Whenever they do bother with a balance patch she will probably be part of it.
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Greymane is p fun

it'd be cool if I could win games with him though
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>>128738172
>tfw he's cool as shit but I got him right at the height of a big win streak so forced 50 has to take me down a notch before I get to have fun with him
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>>128738172
getting potion kills behind the wall is the best
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>>128738172
I knew it, you're a furry and a liar.
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Don't FUCKING start a game if you're just going to leave 5 minutes in.

I don't care if you're drunk or you play like shit, just finish the fucking game.

I'm mad because we could have won this. Fuck, Leoric ragequit like 5 minutes after Jaina and we STILL almost won. With two fucking bots on the team.
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Good thing i didnt join and lose my mmr :)))))
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Just went up against a 5 stack as a soloqueue.

Pussy Diablo, Tyrande, Uther shit. Balance patch when.
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So what happened to that "new hero goes on the rotation 3 weeks after release" pattern?
Lunara is just not important enough for it?
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