/dsg/ - Demon's and Dark Souls General

>>128586021
Black Knight, more like Slut Knight.

>>128586232
>haven't even played the game
Nice shitpost.

>>128586459
Please don't ever acknowledge Lucifer's existence.

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What does an Ash Estus Flask taste like?

>>128586726
ash

>>128586726
Estus

>>128586021
>>128586218
>>128586350
Whoever makes a new thread, please link this pastebin: http://pastebin.com/ziC2tqt4

>>128586726
Ash estus

>>128586726

Looks like Ice Estus to me desu.

What are some cancerous level ideas that can be in DaS3?

>Valley of Blightgutter in DaS3
>even more swaying bridge
>toxic great-archers
>poisonous leeches that attack one more time after dying
>hidden blacksmith that has 75% of all the boss weapons trading/creation
>poisonous leeches can aggro onto the blacksmith and can kill him without you being there
>NPC dark phantom that spawns on the other side of the map and waits for you in a hidden area
>only 1 bonfire

>>128587035
>toxic great-archers
I literally just shivered in fear reading that. Fuck you, man.
>greatbow that literally just fires small trees covered in poison
>during a swaying bridge part
>miss a dodge and you die, block it and you get poisoned and panic
How absolutely devilish.

I just realized that I'll need to avoid this board from the time DS3 releases in Japan to the time I beat it in NA.

That's gonna kinda suck, where am I gonna do all my shitposting?

>>128587140
if they miss, the greatarrow explodes into a toxic cloud

>>128586726
Blue raspberry kool aid

>>128587303
The explosion goes through shielding.

>>128586726
windex

>>128586459
Actually, I have. Even if I hadn't that wouldn't dimish what I said.

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>>128587035
Summon sign mimics.
A giant swarm of dog-sized gargoyles as a bossfight.
The obligatory level up waifu is actually just Maldron the Assassin crossdressing. He riposts you right as you kneel to him, then goes to kill every NPC in the hub area.

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>>128587432
>no scales
>no legs

seath = a bitch who did everything wrong

>>128586726
Toothpaste

>>128586726
Peppermint tea

>>128586726
Pepsi Crystal.

is there a list somewhere for all of the 1H/2H weapon options for every base-SL DaS1 class?

i'm trying to figure out something interesting to do
thinking of maybe an SL3 Wanderer with 2H Gargoyle Tail Axe

I've beaten Dark Souls 1 & 2, and have Bloodborne ready to play

Is Demon Souls worth playing, or are the controls / gameplay outdated compared to Dark Souls 1 & 2?

>>128587737
I mean, I agree, most of this place is complete cancer, but it's still nice to have a dedicated place to talk about souls 24 hours a day.

even if most people hate me for daring to enjoy ds2

>>128587778
this. and normal estus tastes like really spicy sweet wine

>>128587887
DeS is still far better than DaS2 and one of the best Souls games in regards to PvE.

>>128587887
Demon's Souls is excellent, arguably the best in the series in some aspects
It plays very similarly to Dark Souls 1, there's no real reason for it to feel aged to you.

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>>128585614
It's pretty common

Ask debug anon for a pic next time he drops by

>>128587887

It's like Dark Souls, but without poise so the combat is faster paced.

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>>128587627
>Malyurt the Silent Assassin appears as an actual NPC for the hub area
>doesn't do anything besides giving a gesture and the occasional summon for an area
>hub NPCs start dying errywhere
>kill Malyurt because sinister yet godly voice acting and he's using a shotel
>Turns out he's completely fucking innocent and was hunting the hub NPC assassin himself
>Letting Malyurt live eventually yields a badass ring and armor set
>Killing Malyurt before all the hub NPC are murdered yields nothing

Is dual-wielding maces still OP as fuck in DaS2?

>>128588335
I think they nerfed it. I used to be able to stunlock ruin sentinels with a single L2, but I cant anymore.

They still seem super good now though

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>>128588245
How new?

>>128587035
>>128587627
>White ring returns
>when you use it with a red soapstone it appears white to the host.

>>128588694
>reposting my content i posted in the last thread without giving credit
downvoted

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ADP to 30 or what?

>>128588694
yes
YES

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>mfw seeing someone write a shitload about how they think the legends concerning artorias are fake since when you meet him he's a berserker who screams

how can you miss the point this fucking hard

>>128588842
Either more endurance or vitality for extra stamina.

>>128588926
Is that pic supposed to be Artorias talking to Ornstein? I know the helmet thing doesn't look like Arty but the sword kind of does and there's the lions mane thing on the guy he's talking to.

>>128588842

Endurance is very useful up to 99.

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>>128588828
Bitch please, ive had this idea forever. And so has everyone else.

>>128589109
Yeah but I had it first.

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>tfw no isometric dark souls

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>>128589059

>>128588965
>>128589067
VIT then, even if it does mess with my OCD to get rid of that perfect 50% weight thing I had going with my paladin costume.

>>128589257
Path of Exile is probably the closest thing.

>>128589257
I'd kill for an isometric RPG with good action combat.

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>>128589267
Fuck me I've seen the "shit dude you only got 10 int" for years and never saw the source, thanks anon.

>>128589318
Having a tiny bit extra is nice if you need to swap some rings out for heavier ones.

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>>128589454

There's actually a full version of the 10 int edit.

>>128589192
No, it was me.

Does anyone still play das 1?? ;_; i miss our fight clubs

>>128589267
thanks, i've been looking for this too
>>128589059
looks like what someone might have thought a restored version of artorias' helm might look

>>128589757

Still doing Forest PvP every now and then. Some guy was hosting FCs a couple of weeks ago, and people actually attended it. I'm EU and he was US so I couldn't fight, sadly.

>>128589267
I know this is just a fluff comic but is there anywhere that it's said that Artorias likes stuff like cats and mushrooms?

I guess because Alvina (or the illusion of her) leads you to Sif?

>>128589631
looks like the autistic result of a "fill in the blanks, /b/" thread

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>>128589257
>not paper mario souls

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>>128589973

I think it's just because of Sif, people think Artorias is friends with animals. The game doesn't mention this at all.

>>128590223
SOLAIRE YOU PIECE OF SHIT, STOP PRAISING AND ZAP THE FATTY

>>128590660
>>128590689
Don't reply to him you fucking idiots, report and ignore

>>128590756
Needs endlessly respawning soul-draining mosquitoes.

>>128590756
No, the poison gas is coming from dragon asses
Hundreds of them

>>128591127
>they can drain levels from you
>you don't ever get them back

>your actual Soul Level for matchmaking purposes is unchanged, only your stats drop

>>128587630

I think he is an interesting character
he is smart, the discoverer of magic, has a huge library, and performs perverted experiments like Mengele.
The other dragons, apart from the serpents, just seem to be dumb big animals.

So if you were a npc phantom what boss/area would you be found at?
Friendly or hostile?
What weapons?
What armor?
Would your AI fall to its death constantly, charge into mobs of enemies with little regard for the host? Maybe it would just spam HELLO carvings.

>>128591263
Its like the punishments from FFTA. I never want to see those again.

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>>128591395
Because all the other "dragons" are imperfect dragons or distant kin.

Seath, Kalameet, and the stone dragon are the only true dragons left.

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>>128591415

>>128591415
>would be npc invader
>Ugs or halberd, a few offensive spells, greatbow on the side
>medium armor
>plays opportunistic as fuck, if spotted early will bow, then attack the host if you guesture, otherwise will try to ambush the host.
>will almost kill host then find a way to choke and die.

I remember some guy suggested that 4 Kings are actually Death Kings. Any evidence/lore supporting this?
>>128591395
seath was a faggot but his contribution to faggots is unparalleled
>>128591415
i'd be a very helpful phantom, showing the major traps of an area, protecting the host, showing him shortcuts. then i'd drop a warmth on the boss and stand there spamming "i'm sorry"

>>128591415
Shulva or Pharros
Friendly
Yorgh's Spear or Santier's Spear
Pharros Mask, Engraved Gauntlets, and Northwarder Trousers
Wildly swing the spears around and sippy whenever I get below 75% hp

>>128591969
>>128591972
>>128591986
Stop replying to him you dumbasses

>>128591881
Rosie turned out to be a dude
Ipikku wasnt good ever
Afro is a slut
Lucy is shitposting here
Fuck vaati

Emarrel is the only one i mourn, but he is having fub with monster hunter sp who cares.

>>128592082
>>128592064
What the fuck? Is he seriously using a proxy or another computer just to shitpost on /tesg/? Look at those post timers.

>>128592268
cellphone, tablet, whatever

Tips for beating Taurus Demon?

>>128593093
use the environment

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>>128592824
me too.

>>128588015
>implying it doesn't taste like Sunny D
I thought this was well established.

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>>128591840
The main reason that guy thought that the Four Kings were supposed to be called the Death Kings is because in Japanese the number four and the word death are both pronounced the same way. He was most likely trying to rationalize the fact that there are in fact five Kings in the boss fight (the last of which shows up if you don't defeat the penultimate king quickly enough), but the theory falls apart when you realize that while the two words might be pronounced the same, they are written using different characters, which is what FrogNation looks at when translating the names.

The moral of the story is that From is an incompetent developer

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Thoughts, suggestions?
Ignore it saying Fire Tempest, I clicked Black Flame but it insists on putting Fire Tempest there.

>>devotee scarlet

most useless summon?

>>128593414

You don't need more than 50 VIT. Also demon weapons are perfect for the crystal upgrade path.

>>128593270
Sunny D tastes like shit. It's like someone was challenged to make orange juice without any actual oranges.

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>the two Wolverines with infinite stamina after Twin Dragonriders

HA HA HA VERY FUCKING FUNNY FROM

FUCK OFF AND DIE

>>128591415
Friendly neighborhood helicopter
Powerstanced Twinblades
Somewhere high a helicopter would go like Dragon Aerie
Will hover in place and unleash Air-to-Drake Missiles

>>128593306
They are all drawn by the same artist who once visited this general. If you're a newfag and wasn't an acquaintance with her it's alright, kiddo.

>>128593745
Wolverines? You mean those horse statues?

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>all these posts getting deleted

scared

>>128593867
He means the manikins after the statue room.

>>128591395
>and performs perverted experiments like Mengele.
You fell for the popaganda m8

>>128593762
>quadblade
have you seen the moveset? it’s basically dual halberds. total waste

>>128594035
YES

THOSE WALKING PIECES OF HORSE CRAP

>>128594035
Oh, I'd hardly call them that in any spectrum of my imagination

>>128594468
Take it slow and kite them by the door, kill one and bait the other to the golem. Easy

>>128593592
Well then where do you suggest 16 points go to? Because I'm not using anything other than Black Flame and the fashion is decided.

>>128595179

Resistance.

Does anybody have that picture of a weapon tier list for DaS2?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOpr4ofhc4c

fucking lol

>>128594984
>Press START
>Skeleton pops out
>Menu Bossfight

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>>128595520
You mean this?

>>128595520
it’s bullshit, SCB being that low. Just test weapons and see what you like most. if you insist, you can check the archive

Why is poison even in the game? It's annoying as fuck

>>128595520
When did people start taking it seriously again? It's a retarded list, stop asking for it, jesus.

>>128594359
Don't crush my dreams of being a helicopter

>>128595824
you answered your own question

>>128588047
>one of the best Souls games in regards to PvE
Fuck no. It has some great environments, but way too many gimmicky bosses. If you include the DLC in both DaS games they are head and shoulders above DeS

>>128596113
Very carefully

>>128595824
>dual poison infused claws
>can never proc the poison

So frustrating. Also how do you beat these niggers who spam soulmass and then run away to heal?

>>128591881
>no lucy
thank god, have you seen /bbg/ aka /lucigen/? I got bloodborne recently and delved into that place for knowledge and all I got was a whole thread giving it attention

>>128596010
It has one puzzle boss. The other bosses are great.

>>128596187
See >>128596251

>>128596010
they are fun. unlike a lot of das bosses like all the demons.

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>>128596187
>>128596251
>>128596318
and that's my cue to get the fuck out. Enjoy it, faggots.

>>128595762
Yeah I did

>>128595792
What's SCB?

>>128596187
He gave me good information the other day, why is he so hated?

>>128596916
sanctum crossbow, SaC in the list

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it feels like I do shit damage to snakes in sens
how fucked am I if I don't go farm green titanites for +5 divine?

>try to do spells builds
>they fucking suck
>want the achievements

>>128597112
you're supposed to critical abuse the snakes, much like the rest of the game. got through the area fine with a +8 mail breaker (lucky 2 shard drop on the first bug, no farm done)

>>128597038
Because I use a trip. That's pretty much it.

So I've killed Sif, what remains is Pinwheel, Four Kings, Seath, Nito, Firesage, Bed of Chaos, and Ceaseless Discharge

>>128597112
you don’t need to use the spells, just have them. also, divine sucks major ass, only good for the despawning property. go to the depths and get the large ember if you haven’t already. or, if you wanna go full fag, go to demon ruins, get the the large fire ember, farm a few greens in blighttown and go back to the asylum. then go to vamos for a "quick" +7 fire weapon that will shred most enemies

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>>128597427
Have you ever considered NOT using a trip?

>buy Das2 in sale
>play for roughly 50 hours
>literally zero invasions
>start new character because lol soul memory
>get invaded in Heide's tower of flame
>cool, some low level pvp!
>it's a cheater
>oh

Don't suppose there is anything like pvp watchdog for DaS2?

>>128597112
Parries and and fire weapons help. BKGA used to rek their asses too, but I am not sure how good it is since the nerfs.

>>128597670
Yes, decided against it.

>>128597670
but then how can he brag that he’s kind of known in a forgotten corner of a desolate board on a semi-obscure website?

>>128597776
no

>>128597864
being known for being a samefagging autist with 90% bad opinions and shit at the games he posts about is good now?

>>128597864
4chan hasn't been obscure for quite some time now.

>>128597289
doing, still seems shit.

>>128597582
>>128597846
>fire weapons > divine weapons for faith
well that's unexpected and weird
guess I might do that then

>>128597112

Just backstab sneks.

>>128598131
go grab the hornet ring

>>128598131

Even with 50 faith a chaos weapon beats out divine in a lot of cases, it's trash.

>>128598131
Fire weapons are better early game because you lack the stats to boost the scaling. Even at end game you are better off just having a regular +15 weapon and use miracles to buff your weapon as opposed to using faith weapons.

>>128598131
>guess I might do that then
lol nevermind he's the cunt in the catacombs
fuck my life

>>128598131
>doing, still seems shit.
How much damage are you doing? With 316 AR you should be two shotting sneks with backstabs.

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I'm worried Dark Souls 3 will be -too- action oriented.

Bloodborne was understandable since they're all wearing leather stuff, but with knights?

>people with cosplay usernames that look nothing like the character
why?

>>128591531
Was the real ancient dragon an actual dragon?

>>128598750
If you invade them as they prep it, understandable. If its like tier 35 sm/ over 100 sl and up, no excuse

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How do I git gud at pvp in DaS2? It feels fucking aids compared to DaS1, fucking rapiers are broken as shit with their god damn fucking retarded damage and shitty fucking hitboxes.

Tried the Zwei and holy fuck, literally 440AR at +9, what is this cancer.

Honestly so far seems to be nothing but a fucking rapier/straight sword meta shit.

I tried that Nil Curved Greatsword thing, and upgrading from base to +5 only nets 100 AR. what the fuck is with this game.

>>128598748
Me too my man. Did you see the last trailer with the murakumo? That flurry of attacks was unreal, even if it looks cool, Dark Souls is not a game to look cool.

>>128598131

Faith builds are just bad in general because the magical part of the damage you deal gets resisted a lot, especially by bosses and ESPECIALLY in the DLC part of the game.

>>128598636
riposte + hit to finish 'em
am I just being unreasonable in expecting to one shot riposte them?

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>Old Dragonslayer
>A dragon literally 50 feet away from him that he's not slaying

>>128598924
The curved nil scales off what ng+ you are on, maxed at 10. Honestly, ultra weapons arent terrible but you have to learn how to bait.

>>128599013
Yes, you are.

>>128599054
That doesn't work for pvp.

>>128598924
>Honestly so far seems to be nothing but a fucking rapier/straight sword meta shit
that's what it is, don't get fooled by the webms of people beating retards with meme weapons

>>128598924
Get a good shield and shitstomp faggot rapier users. Or just get to 30 poise and get a katana.

>>128599040
That's not a dragon that's a wyrm. Huge difference.

>>128598923
>invade anal rodeo
>trusty patches
>oh cool, i wonder if he has got the face correctly
>sk shield, bks
>father mask, havel’s gauntlet and leggings
every
fucking
time

>>128598924
i-frames and animation cancelling are key. You can win with ultra weapons, but there really isn't any reason to use them unless you want to get actually good and have fun with the game.

>>128598924
http://www.twitch
.tv/apkoha
just learn to cancer up the fight

>>128599365
Do your job you fucking pussy. No excuses

>>128599123
What doesnt? The scaling or baiting?

>>128599793
The scaling. It's only for PvE.

What weapon is the most satisfying to win with in DaS2?

>>128599963
ladle

>>128598924
Pick a mediocre weapon and play to have fun. Winning because of your build isn't satisfying at all.

>>128599963
Pickaxe or Drakewing Ultra Great Sword

>>128599890
Oh, never knew that.

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Is Crystal Soul Spear worth the 2 slots I use for just regular ol' Soul Spears?

Damn it, Grant, why must you be so heavy?

>>128600000

What are good poisebreaks in DS2? 76?

>>128600873
Does anyone even bother with it in DaS2? Every souls game other than DaS1 is fashion souls.

>>128600461
and have retarded high stat requirements while doing barely more damage than the great club

Does this build at least look fun? I want to make it in the spirit of one of my fun builds from dark souls 1. He will be fatrolling 24/7 II.
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/darksouls2/37951

>>128600873
They aren't that high. 15 for arrows, bolts and throwing knives, 30 for rapiers and longsword 1HR1, but that's invalidated if they have stone ring so it's a shot in the dark. All in all I just like to wear fume mask because my waifu is a monster and gyrm gloves because that poise to weight ratio is ridic.

trolling as a white phantom is fun, making webms maybe if I can figure out how to make them with audio

>>128601502
can't upload webms with audio on 4chan

>>128601618
You can, just not outside of the gif boards.

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>Dark Souls 2 has "memories", where you enter a mind-space where the final events of a creature's life is played out
>Bloodborne develops that idea into Nightmares, where the environment and architecture can be twisted and abstract.
>Implying Dark Souls 3 won't have a development on the concept, and this isn't a representative screenshot of the concept in action.

After The Old Hunters, that's the only way I can interpret it, and a version of the concept was already in Dark Souls 2, if not Dark Souls 1's Kiln of The First Flame.

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Anyone have that video about cracked red eye orb farming? I'm retard and didn't save it when I had the chance last time

just saw a dragon sign in cardinal tower...is there a way to get that early or was I against a CE user?

>>128602161
Here you go m8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQ6RecDK_pA

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>>128602334
Many thanks anon

>>128601380
I just like the Gyrm Gloves because they're fingerless hobo gloves

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>>128600850
Reading Claymore was one of the things that got me into dark souls 1, I used it to kill everything.

I can't stop wearing elite knight. Help.

>>128602290
Agape.

>>128602815
At least use the Drake Sword too.

>>128602676
Oh shit, you mean I can get pokemon trainer gloves in this with a good P/W?

>>128602881
Drakekeepers won't give me their gauntlets or boots to make my fashion, so I'm running 3/4 EK until they do

>>128602932
Hell no.

>>128602939
I wish, Gym Gloves only got 8 Poise and 3.6 Weight vs Gym Warrior Gloves' 14 Poise and 5.4 Weight. BUT
FINGERLESS
HOBO
GLOVES

Perfect when you're out on the side of the road to Drangleic begging for Souls so you can get your next hit of Elisabeth Mushrooms or a bottle of Divine Blessing.

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>invaded the world of-
>Buttbudy Pussout has been summoned

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>>128595762
Why doesn't everyone just use offhand Bandit's Knife with a Reaper

>keep getting summoned for twin dragonriders at 2m sm

>>128603515
Why? It's really fun in level 125 duels, especially the fan mail you get when you win, then apologize for using such and OP weapon.

Backstepping into a 180 running attack is my new favorite move

>>128603591
Fuck off Paddrick I hate you.

>>128604290
Good

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mace looks pretty good in 3
predict when a guy's gonna run it, use your battle art, win trades

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>>128603647
are you me

>>128604401
Curses.

OP's image makes me want to make a female Black Knight

>>128604428
A lot more fluid comboing it seems like too which is nice

>>128604428
Did my weaponfu the rapier get into the network test? I'd really like to see how thrusting swords handle.

I hope das3 has Velka's rapier

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>shield bash at opponent
>he puts his shield up in habit
>gets bashed
>gets 1hko'd

>>128605521
I want the return of Espada Ropera and Royal Dirk. Mainly the former, but both for fencing

>>128605636
How?

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>tfw seeing the power creep in vids of DaS3

I'm really not a fan, I loved how a lot of the stuff in DaS was very grounded in reality, as in most stuff behaved how you would imagine it would in our world, and swords taken from reality were accurately depicted.

Now looking at DaS3 if you powerstance or whatever you can perform an attack that launches people 5 feet straight up into the air.

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>>128605340
Nope.
Longsword, legion scimitars, battle axe, spear, greatsword, mace. That's it.
Only other shown weapon so far has been the shortbow, which wasn't in.

>>128605636
My favorite part of bellbonging Lost Bastille

>>128605728
did you forget about black knight weapons in DaS1 retard

>>128605725
>How?
Host doesn't have his shield up, you go into the animation for shield bashing and he automatically thinks it's an attack, so he puts up his shield. The bash connects, and you kill him in the riposte. It's pretty simple to understand.

>>128606231
No, I never used them. And I'm pretty sure you can perform that attack I mentioned with just a regular greatsword which I'm assuming doesn't require the same stat investment as the BK weps

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>have 99 Agility
>35% Equip Load
>still get backstabbed and ghostranged while rolling
U N I N S T A L L E D

>>128606315
Yeah, I just re-read it and I feel like a fool. I thought he was talking about bashing someone with a shield, since I heard there was one shield that could do massive damage when buffed or something like that. Thanks for explaining anon

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>excited to fight aldia for first time
>its literally just dont stand in red shit the fight

>>128606565
should have gotten 105 agl
roll twice, too

What's considered "the pvp soul level" in DS2?

>>128607463
>DaS2
doesn't matter, level to whatever you like, your SM matters more
>DaS2 SotFS
if you are a brotherhood of blood arenafag, 150. outside of that, SL doesn't matter. blue arena doesn't have SL matchmaking.

>>128607636
Lol, I use my sl 200 guys at the BoB arena. Am I a scumbag?

>>128607636
I understand there's no SL matchmaking, I was just wondering if there was some conventional balanced spot people prefer to fight at.

>>128607762
It'll just match you with people in your range. If there's nobody, it mgiht match you with people below. It's SL based since 1.10, according to wiki

>>128607762
there are quite a lot of SL200s in the arena, but they have shit builds and are easy wins

it's easy mode

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>>128586726

Don't even fuck with this opinion senpai. This is official.

>>128608135
I'm probably one of the shit builds. I do a dragonrider cosplay and a flame knight in the area.

>>128607767
I typically stop at 150, or 200 because after that its just way too much of a grind.

>>128608306
i mean REALLY shit builds
we're talking 30 vig 50 end 30 str 70 dex 15 adp builds

>>128603676
lucy what platform are you on and whats your psid

>Burned two ascetics trying to get the Drakekeepers to be kind
Please fucking drop some gear already, this is getting concerning

>>128608549
could've just joined CoC.

>>128608202
gatorade or kool-aid roll off the tongue more easily

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>>128608549
>farming in DS2
>not in company of champions

m8

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>No Ornstein armor in DS2 but his spear is

WHY EVEN PUT THE SPEAR IN IF I CAN'T COSPLAY AS HIM FUCK

>>128606440
the greatsword is also a UGS, same shit

>>128608621
>>128608715
Too late for that. To be fair, I took about a year of a break from DaS2 runs, so I forgot you even get infinite respawning enemies with CoC

>>128608626
no pain no gain nigga

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>>128608764
So you can roll in the Ironclad Set and pretend you're Brer Terrapin.

>>128608818
what are you even farming

>>128608462
Back in the Day it was 360. I am mostly Playstation now. I never bother getting it on PC because of the cheaters.

>>128608818
What do you mean too late? Start now so you dont end up on NG+6 tryna farm. CoC NG+2 is significantly easier than that.

Kill them outside of CoC till they despawn, joining will respawn them

>>128608902
Just the gauntlets and greaves.

>>128608872
Just isn't the same. Gotta be Drakekeeper for my fashion. I do need to farm the Ironclad Helm, though

What's some fun powerstanced movesets to try out?

In order to get the achievements, do I have to get all spells of the same type on the same character?

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>speed leveling for pvp in SotFS
>see a dragon sign in no-man's warf
>fully expect shitshow
>spawns in wearing full havels
>I take off all armor
>he lights a torch and proceeds to light all the fires in the area
what a swell fellow

he wouldn't fight me after I got what I came for so I killed myself to give him a victory for helping

I wonder if buffstacking will be possible in Dark Souls 3. Sacred Oath + Axe battle art + resin/weapon buff. I really hope that his isn't the case, though.

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>>128609249
>Get to 1-3 for the first time in DeS
>Get invaded
>He kills all the enemies

>>128609419
Anyone else mad as fuck that Resins last 5 seconds tops and don't even increase damage that much?

Leo Ring builds feel really strong for PvE in DaS2. I'm using the weapon "spear" and a chariot lance.

>>128609780
I would be fucking glad, I'm sick of paperfags in BB. However it doesn't seem to be the case as of the last gameplay preview, the guy buffed his murakumo for a minute with Charcoal Pine Resin.

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>>128609249
lmfao and I just realized I need the flexile soul for my build, welp gg dragon bro's kindness made me forget my purpose

>>128589973
He was the leader of the Forest Hunter covenant before he got corrupted.

>>128610096
Hmm, maybe it was updated like the difference between Estus healing instantly in the preview videos and Estus healing fast like DaS1 in the Network Test videos.

Thank fuck in that case.

>>128589973
Alvina is Ciaran's pet.

>>128609001

we're talking dks right?

Is this a good Ds2 build? I like the armor look at least. Not sure about the weapons/stats, I just went up to some caps that made it easy for me to pick equipment.

>>128610802
Yeah it looks good

>>128610802
Oh shit, forgot the link

https://www.mugenmonkey.com/darksouls2/37964

and I got an 80 some second timer for some reason too, really getting sick of this asian-knockoff moot

>>128610802
You're good to go bud.

>>128610589
I assumed Souls in general.

>>128610953
>20 str
>14 dex
>No other offensive stats
Have fun with all raw weaponry.

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>yfw actual swordfighters do "Well, What is it!"

>>128602026
pretty sure the memories were time travel a-la AotA

>>128611480
Yeah, I haven't a clue how it scales. I was ust told lower equip load = larger rolls. This better?

https://www.mugenmonkey.com/darksouls2/37969

>lose 100k souls to shitty fucking ice Sanics

I hate Eleum Loyce.

>>128611743
Yeah, looks better. I would drop the ivory warrior ring for the third dragon ring though. Its a neat idea but the ring is way to fucking heavy.

So I got myself Forbidden Sun and found it doing really pathetic damage, I don't know what's wrong. I have about 20 Int, 20 Faith, and a +10 Pyromancy Flame at the moment. Fire Orb is hitting a lot harder. Keep in mind, I'm using this in PvE, don't care about PvP.

>>128612638
Forbidden Sun just isnt very good. I think it was considered OP in vanilla (high speed, high radius, high damage) and it was one of the things that was irrepairably destroyed. Similar to Avelyns, broken santiers, and mundane infusions in general

>>128609780
That seems to be a bug or whatever in the network test. In the newest trailer you can see the charcoal pine resin being active for ages:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjK5f7ozzOM

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Welp, finally did it, beat all three games; took me ages to get around to finishing DeS.

Now it is time for SL1 runs.

"Best" twinblade to build around?

>>128612983
SL1 is really fun! I've done it in DS1 and DS2.

Giant Blacksmiths hammer is OP in 1, Mace is OP in 2

>>128612847
If i remember correctly, forbidden sun either oneshottet you or took like 80-90% off of your hp bar.

I kinda miss the old meta. Buffstacking haveljesterhexers with monscim and syan halberds. Now we have robflynn poke meta.

>>128613386
I more or less know what I'm doing for 1 and 2, not so much in Demon's Souls. I have far less experience in that game than the others.

>>128613368
Red Iron Winblade.

>>128612847
Was balancing like this in Ds1 too? Something's overpowered or imbalanced, so it gets so heavily nerfed that it's practically useless?

>>128613368
Red Iron Twinblade or Santier's Spear

>>128613368
Red Iron is pretty good. Dragonrider's if you go int.

>>128613952
Tranquil Walk of Peace can still be used, but it's basically a giant bluff.

Claymore was also nerfed but by no means is it useless, still wrecking idiots with it, poise break or not.

>>128613952
On one hand there's the crystal ring shield and magic shield, on the other there's twop and pyromancy.

>>128613368
Red Iron is the best. Gigantic damage. They call it the Winblade, because you win with it.
Santier's Spear is next up there. Very versatile moveset, good reach. Make it Raw. Don't just 2hr1 mash with it.

The actual Twinblade and Stone Twinblade are about equal.
Despite the Stone's higher scaling and AR, it has a 0.85x damage multiplier and does only about 5 more damage while costing far more stamina.
While you can get the Twinblade early on, it's a STR weapon that requires 26 DEX, and doesn't do damage until fully upgraded and with high STR.
You can't really build around it.
In PvP, they're very average. Requires a lot of skill to use effectively but doesn't reward you much, though they're not bad.

Sorcerer's Twinblade might as well not exist.

So, grab Santier's Spear, break it on the crow's nest, and use that until you get the Red Iron.

>have specific build in mind
>plan route to get all the gear asap
>get tons of souls along the way from enemies dying by falling to their deaths
>get tons of soul items
>get required stats for the item I'll need before I fight a boss other than asylum demon
>feel so overpowered
>no joy

even if I were to play the game naturally and gather the build's items naturally I would still get overpowered and the victories would feel empty.

I feel like I've become so skilled that this game is finally below me. And I've done an SL1 run, and an SL1 run without spells, a perma gravelord aggressive mod run, etc so don't suggest those.

I can't wait for DS3

>>128614830
Oh, and the Dragonrider Twinblade is pretty good.
Straight upgrade to the Twinblade and Stone Twinblade if you can handle the weight, but not as good as Red Iron.
Same moveset, but actually does damage.
Don't infuse it, but do buff it.

Was the reasoning behind removing full orbs from DS2 explained? Like not lore wise but what about full orbs did they feel was bad and have to remove them?

>>128613952
dark wood grain ring was also nerfed, but it was deserved and is still kind of OP
fog ring too and it's useless now

>>128613952
Magic Shield and Strong Magic Shield used to be 30 seconds long.
Strong Magic Shield used to make you completely invincible while your shield was down.

Now it lasts like 10 seconds, and Lingering doesn't work on it.

The Pickaxe and Warpick both had their poise damage reduced to the level of katanas.
This + the hammer stunlock nerfs made them suck ass outside of high damage leo counters.
Which halberd did better and still infinitely stunlocks with.

>>128615147
They never really gave an adequate explanation, it was just a stupid mistake they made.

Full orbs back in DS3, though, so thats pree goo

>>128614830
I'm not really sure, but i think Santier's is the only twinblade that doesn't have a hitbox at the back of the user.

>>128614980
Get INT or fine with none?

>>128615147
>Tanimura: Yes, this game actually went through quite a troubled development process. Due to a number of factors we were actually forced to re-think the entire game midway into development.

>>128615441
Well, it's got 20% str, 25% dex, 40% int scaling.
The phys scaling is laughable, the int scaling is better than most infused weapons but still kinda low.
I'd at least have enough for great magic weapon.
Its strength comes from its high base damage (for a twinblade) and RoBFlynn + a buff.

>>128607762
>>128608039
>SL 100
>matched with SL 150's in the arena

>>128616564
Because most people in there are 150. If it cant find anyone, it goes up until it finds someone looking

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>Give Rosabeth a full set of clothes
>Decide to change one part of the outfit
>She takes everything off but that one piece

Rosabeth? Honey? That's not how clothes work.

>>128616626
damn. co-op gets really sparse after iron keep levels of SM IMO

>>128616925
She has the autism

Also, this is my first time pvp'ing with magic. Most of my ranged spells seem to hit the opponent in the face but do no damage...is that lag? is it pretty much par for the course?

>>128615731
Really, fuck twinblades then. I refuse to be a part of the RIT and Santier's crowd

>>128617282
What Santier's crowd? I see more great scythe 1hWD spammers than Santiers users these days.

>>128617201
Yeah, try to use magic to get them to roll into a setup with your weapon, homing soul arrows are king for this and soul shower too. The soul spears are really great for killing runners as it has insane tracking

>>128617201
Magic build effectiveness is determined by how many projectiles you can toss at an enemy and how lag happens to interact with them
Imagine there's an invisible luck stat affecting it

>>128617026
Maybe it's that I just end up being overleveled every time I play a Souls game (I tend to finish Scholar at SL 190-200, PtDE at 90-100), but I rarely see any co-op once I get to the Crown DLCs.

>>128617412
Its a crowd I will not be a part of regardless of population

>>128617463
>>128617510
alright thanks. I'm doing a fucked up blue flame hybrid build so my ranged attacks are mostly to bait them into soul greatsword anyway. Thinking of using soul barrage because why not.
>>128617681
It's really a shame because the DLC bosses are great for co-op

>>128617818
I only summon for Elana and the optional trial zone bosses, the former because of the multiple enemies and the latter because of that reason for two out of the three of them and the fact that I don't want to have to do the run back every time when I get killed because the fights are bullshit.

>>128617818
As long as the opponent feels like they're playing some high pressure bullet hell game you'll do fine

Anyone up for some oolacile pvp on pc? Currently level 120 and willing to host or invade.

Black Witch Staff still the best, most versatile spell catalyst?

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This shit is annoying.
If someone dropped me a trident would I still be able to get the achievement or does it not count it unless I got it myself?

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which one looks better, guys?

>>128618494
I like left a little more but it's so minor I would suggest just going with whatever works better for your stats.

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Is Drakekeeper's Straightsword still good? Did any of the DLC's add a better SS? I fucking loved that thing in base DaS2, dat poise damage and range was great.

>>128618494
Chariot.

>>128618070
I'm scumming around township and swapping between my 120 and 105 builds but I don't know how much longer I'll be around

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>>128618757
>dat build

This like my 6th play-through of DaS1 and every fucking time the FUCKING CAPRA DEMON still gives me trouble. It's won or lost in the first 2-3 seconds of the fog gate.

>>128618765
>>128618728
cool, was leaning that way anyway. Thanks.

>>128618757
It's still good in my opinion. As for the DLCs Fume Straight Sword is basically a greatsword with the Sun Sword's moveset. Slap on a dark resin and get the damage of a greatsword too

>>128619113
Sheeit sound pretty good. What's a decent build for that?

ATM I'm just 30/30 fth/int infusing my Drakekeeper's with Dark, I'm assuming this wouldn't be very good for Fine SS? Hell I don't even know if it's realistically good for Drakekeeper's, but I get better AR on this build than I did with 30/30 str/dex. Bit confused coming back in.

>>128619054
breh, everyone has that one or two or three bosses that give them trouble no matter how gud they git.

>>128618757
It's still one of the best.
The DLC added Fume Sword, which is a Sun Sword with long range.
But it's DEX / Dark, with low split damage, 40 durability, very high stamina usage.
Longsword's still better.

There's also Ashen Warrior Sword and Possessed Armor Sword.
Ashen Warrior Sword has the Short Sword moveset, long reach, low durability, and built in bleed.

Possessed Armor Sword has an ungodly amalgam of the worst straight sword / axe moves, including the Red Rust Sword's 1hr2.
It's cool looking, and has a L2 self-buff which is the best looking in the game, but it lasts a sad amount of time.

You will likely never see them used by other people.

>>128619054
Drake sword
No regrets
JUST for the ONE boss

>>128619497
>You will likely never see them used by other people.
I mean the last two. Fume Sword is relatively common.

>>128618276
someone pls respond
I'm in my own personal brand of hell and I'm only 30 minutes in.

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Does the Daughter of Chaos outside the Bed of Chaos have a unique face? She uses a player model so I'd assume so.

>on my third playthrough of Scholar, now capable of beating the Ancient Dragon in one try

You know, it was always a really shitty fight, but at least the bullshit level made it tense, even if that's a bad reason for tension. Now it's only boring.

I'm currently dual wielding an estoc in the right hand and a falchion in the left hand.

Good idea? Bad idea?

>>128619748
>now capable

m8 ancient dragon is literally, without question, the easiest boss in the game. There is only one thing you ever need to dodge

So, I'm pretty much a casul when it comes to Dark Souls 2. Just how important is armor? Does poise do anything worth noting, are elemental resistances important, all that jazz.

>>128619780
Replace the falchion with a warped sword and it'll be the best idea

>>128619975
That's what I plan to do once I have the stats to powerstance the WS.

>>128619732
Nope. She has no face data, like Ciaran. She'll appear as the standard blank baldie.
They're the only two, though.

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>>128618276
>>128619662
PLS
I WANT TO GET OFF THE RIDE

>>128619941
elemental resist is way more important than poise or phys def in DS2 IMO. Also the way elemental resist and physical DEF works is different. I believe 10 elemental resist = 1% resist while phys DEF isn't percentage based and basically sucks. You're generally better off putting points into VGR instead of pumping up VIT so you can wear armor.
Poise is important if you have a really slow weapon.

>>128620021
Okay, it's still a good idea with the falchion anyway

>>128619941
Check the op for a more detailed explanation, but armor is pretty useless for anything but elemental defense and poise

Does equip load still basically have its own stat in DS3 or is it better integrated into the other stats?

>play Demon's Souls for the first time
>get to Maneaters
>die
>had 10k souls
>fall off the fucking stairs on the way back and die

I haven't played since. I feel like Souls are hard to come by in this game and losing 10k was a big set back especially when I'm trying to get enough stats to use this fucking Meat Cleaver.

>>128620652
You could just dupe if it meant that much to you

>>128619975
>>128620021
I'm doing righthand Warped Sword and lefthand Falchion power stance right now, it's pretty great.

I played the shit out of DaS1 on console for pvp

I got DaSII on console also, but stopped when I got to the poison valley place.

Is it worth picking up again and rolling through if I'm a twink tryhard faggot who's just in it for the pvp?

Should I just wait for DS3?

>>128620652
you could just not suck, des is best, git gud

>>128620952
Why don't you decide for yourself?

I got 1 humanity left, any summons around to help with Capra Demon? I've beat this fucker many times before. Tonight is just not my night.

>>128620952
This isn't a good place to ask. Everyone will tell you that DS2 is fanfiction and not worth the time of day

I personally really love DS2, sometimes moreso than DS1. Just play it to figure it out man

>>128620137
I guess she would look like her sisters, with the long black hair and all. Fair Lady would have black hair too if she wasn't near death?

>>128620952
You stopped while in the middle of the worst of the game's five initial paths.

>>128620171
Do you only need the trident?
What SL?

You finally find the corpse of Leeroy, the great and mighty and brave paladin of the Way of the White. It's half-way inside a little tunnel in Nito's chamber. He died crawling into a hole in the ground, terrified and desperate to escape
God. This fucking game.

>>128620952
nah, twinking is more fun on DaS. Just wait. I like DaS2, but if thats all you are doing its a ton of work for little reward.

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In the undead asylum, during the first visit, what causes the slamming noise when you're by the hollow soldier near the gate to get the ring? Is it the Asylum Demon or the Stray Demon?

>>128621316
SL80
No, I still need to get boss weapons on my second run.