/kfg/ - Killing Floor General

Range or Splash for lvl 20 FB?

>>128443440
Splash so you can do 2x more damage with the Microwave gun, just be sure to aim at the Zed's feet and tapfire it.

isn't this horse dead enough?

>play Gunslinger and Berserker up to 20+
>both really good and contribute a lot in their own way
>star leveling Commando
>feels like I'm doing nothing

>>128445387
I've been playing a ton of commando lately, as long as you're on a map that's good for commando you should be doing a ton to help the team. Just focus on getting headshots and killing trash and extending zed time.

IMO don't waste your time playing commando on really tight maps where you can't get distance from zeds. Catacombs, and farmhouse are good examples of maps where I wouldn't bother playing commando. Where as outpost, evac point, burning paris, etc are great.

>>128443608
I can never tell if I'm actually hitting zeds when I shoot at their feet

>>128446217
It doesn't matter, as long as it's close to their feet the splash damage will take care of it, it does even more damage than a direct hit

Brilliant TW balancing

It doesn't happen super often in a real game but decapping a scrake or fp is orgasmic.

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New update when?

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>New update just a month ago
>Thread is on life support

>>128446750
Game is still fairly active but what's there to talk about?

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>stupid fucking ana playing demo raged two fp for no reason
>good thing i'm good at parrying so it only knocked me across the map
>later lead patty to her and got her killed by body blocking her escape

>>128445387
Commando is the best perk for Siren and Husk removal.

>>128447324
Gunslinger is better imo. one headshot with .500 or two with deagles. Commando is still good though. I generally focus on siren killing when scrakes and fps come out since the team loses focus on trash and often gets swarmed by sirens.

>>128447324
I just feel like the only thing Commando is "good" at is trash removal but to be honest I'm really efficient at doing that with Gunslinger already. And when it's time to take down scrakes or FPs gunslinger can contribute while Commando just kind of stands at the sidelines and either spams an entire mag into them doing barely any damage or saving it up and letting the rest of the team deal with them.

>>128447324
I play commando but gs is better for siren and husk.

>>128447465
1 bullet of .500 or 3 bullets is SCAR is basically the same, but SCAR aim is a lot better.
Deagles are bad with their stumbling power.

>>128447540
Ideally commando clears trash when big zeds are out. Keeping zeds from body blocking teammates or raping them with fire/siren screams. Also triggering and extending zed time for easier headshots and whatnot.

>>128447540
Taking care of trash while the team takes down a big guy can be very important so you don't get overwhelmed. Shit happens a lot in pubs.

>>128447832
the thing is that Gunslinger can generally quickswap instantly to their threat-killer weapon and go back to trash killing without committing to anything. With Commando your weapon swap is so fucking slow.

>>128448017
>using quick swap
>ever

>>128447886
>>128447876
well yeah but as I said, Gunslinger can do this just as well. I can clear entire hallways with only headshots in about the same time it would take a Commando or even less.

>>128448140
why the fuck wouldn't I. Walking slightly faster while aiming is useless since you get the same effect by simply not aiming at anything close range if you are good at headshotting without ironsight.

>>128448142
Oh don't get me wrong I think gunslinger outshines commando, but commando is far from bad or useless. Callout alone is worth having a commando for imo. Commando is probably the most balanced/middle of the road perk right now.

>>128448276
because it's a fucking liability more than a perk.

>>128448450
because you're fucking shit at the game. It's only a liability if you have literally no sense of your ammo count and overshoot your weapon when it's empty.

>>128448276
because of the auto switching. Faster gun switching is godlike, but the auto-switch is so fucking bad. It's a liability that usually ends with peashooting FPs with your 9mm and all guns empty

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What are some good feels you've had, /kfg/?
>play catacombs as firefag
>team camps out in dark staircase area just straight of spawn
>anytime see group of trash or crawlers through doorways throw flaretov downstairs
>kill them instantly, ground burns to soften other enemies up and flare helps preserve teams light

>>128448581
well if you don't keep track of your ammo count. If you can do that you just reload when the mag is empty. Tho I really fucking hope they make the autoswitch modular on the perk. People shouldn't be forced to take something in conjunction with a good perk that is arguably a downside.

>>128448565
there it is again. calling someone shit is the biggest cop out in any argument. why even bother joining the discussion if you're going to do that?

>>128448767
well because it's related to you being shit. A better player than you can keep track of the ammo count and never runs into the downside or can even make the "downside" work if he weapon cycles in a duel against a Scrake or FP while your Scoot'n'Shoot character empites his mag and gets raped in the fucking ass.

Would medic be better for the game if
1) darts autoaim required using iron sights
2) Acidic Compound was a passive with enough damage to kill a crawler?

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Cmon Tripwire.

I get your low on manpower but would it hurt you to do smaller more frequent updates?

Hell, just do some experiments with the game for players to try out. Experiment with stumble and knockdown more. Wait! Maybe make some kind of weekly mutator thing like L4D2 does I don't know.

>>128449193
3) healing actually granted xp
4) iron sights disabled auto aim

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>>128448986
lol get over yourself. there are threads complaining about this exact same issue on tw/steam/reddit forums.

calling others shit doesn't make you win the argument, it makes you look retarded because it shows you have nothing to refute.

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>>128449459
lol just found this 7 page thread

too bad you're better than all of them

>>128449459
>>128449783
well yeah, what a big surprise. The majority of people who play KF2 are shit at the game. Thanks for reminding me

>>128450124
assuming that's true this is still what you're implying
>a level 5 perk skill should only be useful for those in the top <1% of players

Keeping in mind that if you're counting shots you could just manually press the weapon switch buttons to achieve the exact same effect. There's absolutely no reason to have the automatic weapon switching baked in.

>>128450506
a game shouldnt be balanced around shit players. Go back to Hearthstone if that's what you want.

>>128450124
Keep telling everyone how good you are at the game, we're all impressed.

For everybody else please participate in the poll below to show how impressed you are. All participants will receive an $10 Amazon gift card in 5~10 business days.

https://strawpoll.me/6527527

>>128450592
It should be balanced around the median player.

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>>128450646
>>128450661
>literally this mad at being shit at the game

>>128450795
>calls everyone bad and mad and providing literally zero valid counter arguments and being in a minority opinion

At least the thread is active.

>>128450912
shit tier trolling is better than the guy calling everyone a white bitch i guess

>>128450912
>counter argument

what's a counter argument to shit players? "Uh stop being shit I guess?"

Predictions for next update?
>medic nerfed to shit
>zerker nerfed to shit
>firebug nerfed to shit
>support untouched
>demo untouched
>hans untouched
>patty buffed for no reason
>stay tuned

>>128450506
the skills should also be choices, not mandatory to play a perk.

shoot n scoot is preferred if you ADS a lot
quick draw is if want the 50% swap speed and like to spam through ammo without having to reload until everything is empty

woks best against FPs to build your rack 'em up counter with the 9mm, switch to the deagles, spam his head as fast as you can, then quick draw changes you to the magnums then you shoot him in the leg when he charges for the knockdown, then finish him off with the last 9 shots.

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>>128446652
Very soon

>>128451518
*works

>>128451518
you can manually change weapons, there's no arguable reason for auto switching.

>>128451782
>no arguable reason
preference
It's like Regen vs Lacerate for medic
both are so shit that it really doesn't matter which one you pick

>>128451931
preference? you don't get an option right now it's just baked into the skill.

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While we are all staying tuned. I thought we could do something fun.

/KF2G/ DUBS- Killing Floor: Uncovered

video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSJHrZ1hyDI

script:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1x9BqJA3Pl8VkCPcMPZ6G75gJ-9kzXp8Sfb4wregIaao/edit?usp=sharing

send vocaroo/clyp links idc just something that works.

No limit for roles. Go crazy and record anything thats available.

>>128452008
that's why shoot n scoot exists.

>>128452189
Again my comment was there is zero arguable reason to have weapon auto switching included in faster weapon swap skill.

>>128451453
Sounds better than what we have now.

>>128451518
>woks best against FPs to build your rack 'em up counter with the 9mm, switch to the deagles, spam his head as fast as you can, then quick draw changes you to the magnums then you shoot him in the leg when he charges for the knockdown, then finish him off with the last 9 shots.


yeah we've all seen that video. the conditions needed to successfully pull that off will never exist in any sui or hoe match.

also

>woks best against FPs to build your rack 'em up counter with the 9mm, switch to the deagles

fleshpounds has a 15 second rage timer which only resets when it doesn't see a player for more than 30 seconds. unless your whole team is out of sight you don't have enough time to fucking shoot at his face and do the whole combo you pretending shitter.

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>>128451453
>everything becomes shit
>feel less bad for playing one of my favorite perks
I'm oddly okay with this

>>128452693
is your favorite perk support?

>>128452841
Demo actually, support was my third most played though just after zerk

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god we need more content

>>128454264
We need a balance patch far more than a content patch.

>>128454963
Lets talk balance then, anon.
What do you need to get off your chest first?

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>>128453802
My Demo brother

>>128455196
Shrapnel, microwave and support ammo costs for a start.

>>128453802
I actually like having a good demo on the team. They make fleshpounds significantly easier. And if the demo is 25 with nuke it's gg.

>>128455580
>nerfing firebug to shit when gunslinger and zerker are both stronger

why

>>128455827
Show me a screenshot of a firebug or gunslinger with 600+ kills while the second best player has less than 200.

>>128456010
no but I can show you a pic of ur mom's clam

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>playing Outpost
>Medic level 18
>team is fucking amazing, coordinated as fuck and everybody's good
>get to the boss wave
>its fucking Hans
>of course everybody but me dies because lolmelee
>ask people if they're fine with me kiting or if I should just die
>they want me to kite
>do so
>for 40 fucking minutes
>they all left one by one as time went on
>Hans decides instead of standing still for grenades that he'll just run at me full speed while chucking them at the very end
>can't outrun him because only level 18
>die
>40 minutes of kiting all for nothing

>>128455196
Not the guy you're talking to but my personal balance wish list
>hans melee nerfed, fight in general reworked to be less shit
>armament fixed to be useful again
>commando bullets can now penetrate once
>support ammo and weapon costs fixed
>give demo some way to be more useful before fps show up
>fix firebug splash damage -- probably just replace the skill with something else, replace fully stocked with a better skill
>remove fleshpound and scrake auto-rage

probably other shit I can't immediately think of

>>128456192
As expected of Firebug apologists.

>>128456010
Did you mean zerker? Because I constantly see zerker and gunslinger topping both the damage and kill charts -- additionally they both have better survivability than firebug and don't have the same ammo conservation issues. Firebug typically only tops the large zed kill chart or if they're solo holding down a doorway they can be up there in kills, but rarely are they leading. Firebug gets more assists than anything on most teams.

>>128451567
stop getting people's hopes up

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Is support just a trash clearer at this point now?

>>128456469
You obviously have not witnessed a firebug abusing his perk so much that there are just no zeds to shot for every five other players.

>>128456821
support is just trash right now. They still do decent damage to large zeds but don't have the ammo to do much else.

What should i do as a berzerker against the Patriarch? More than parrying his blows.

>>128456821
Only when he's having a bath

>>128456858
I find it pretty damn unbelievable that a firebug can hold down every single doorway in the camp spot, and not immediately run out of ammo. Firebugs being conservative as fuck typically run low on ammo only using the mwg for scrakes and fps. Honestly I'm finding your claims hard to believe both as someone who plays firebug regularly and plays with firebugs pubs often. Firebug just doesn't have the ammo to steal every kill.

>>128456469
Firebug can be literally untouchable between the Pushback skill, fire incaps AND microwave incaps (which are separate and can be both be abused). The only thing that can pretty much fuck you up is FPs and bosses.

Zed Shrapnel trivializes groups of trash too, and the MWG is fucking ridiculous. The Caulk is dirt cheap so you can buy one for 200 (don't even need to buy ammo with the level 5 skill) and tap that shit all day

>>128456932
Body block his ass when he tries to flee for an easy win.

>>128457282
And none of that actually makes the firebug stronger than zerker, medic or gunslinger. I don't see how firebug is "overpowered". Good, sure. OP? Not at all. Pushback is buggy as fuck and doesn't work once a zed locks onto someone for a melee attack due to snapping and is still less consistent and effective compared to a zerker blocking.

Firebug also struggles against sirens and husks.

>>128457221
You know a firebug have 50% chance that every zeds he kills explodes as much as an hand grenade? With that, you need a ridiculously low amount of ammo.

>>128457006
>you will never wash a support player

>>128457719
It sounds better in theory than it does in practice. Generally speaking by the time the zed dies to trigger the explosion all the surrounding zeds are already dead from the fire you used to kill the first. It's really not even what makes firebug strong, you can argue it's annoying for the rest of the players though.

>>128457863
Also I get the feeling most people who complain about firebug don't play firebug. The complaints tend to seem more theoretical than factual.

>>128443170
how the fuck do you deal with boss melee as a berserker?

>>128458203
parry, kite, heal, get pampered by medslut

>>128454264
Wait, does that AA12 eject Tootsie Rolls?

>>128457863
>It sounds better in theory than it does in practice

No, it is perfectly possible to be as good in practice as in theory. You just have never tried to abuse this mechanic, which is kind of understandable as it requires to play the exact opposite of what other perks do.
Please stop saying that berserker, medic or gunslinger are as OP until you play with a player knowing how to abuse this game.

>>128458531
Honestly show me someone abusing a firebug in a suicidal or HoE 6 man game and I might believe you. Zed shrapnel is not that abusable as you pretend to think it is and if it actually WAS it would make the flamethrower better than the mwg. Explain to me how it's as abusable as you think it is because it really isn't.

>>128456932
I usually just stick the saw up his ass

>>128456932
Your EMP nades can disable his cloak for a small while. Makes it easy for others to blast his ass while hes sperging trying to find someone to hit.

>>128458714
The saw does considerable more dmg than say spamming m1 pulv hits?

Does Firebug's splash damage perk also increase zed sharpnel damage?

>>128460041
Doubt it.

>>128460041
No, only the fire left on the ground deals a tiny bit more damage but it's barely nothing. You use the skill for the Microwave Gun.

>>128443440
Use range in early waves until you get microwave gun, then switch to splash

>>128461334
So that means if I use flarotov I would get a little boosts? Sounds kinda useful on doors.

>welding will never ever be useful

it's a bad feel

>>128462915
A level 15 demolition says otherwise.

>>128462992
>that skill
>useful

I don't think i've ever seen a demo even bother with it. I'm guessing there's a good reason.

>>128462992
Explosive doors does 200 damage.

The same amount as a single zed shrapnel.

>>128463068
>>128463302
When I'm soloing as a demo I usually wait until the big zeds come in and all trash spawn. I lure them to a door and save myself a rocket or a c4. And take down the big zed afterwords with no trash to stop me, at least until the next wave spawns.

>>128463976
Single player results are pretty different than 6 man suicidal/HoE games. But if it works for you have fun.

>>128463068
It MIGHT be useful if doors respawned and the sliding zeds was fixed.

What if martial artist grenades triggers zed time

>play commando
>no stalkers here
>don't play commando
>constantly surrounded by a hoard of 4 stalkers doing cartwheels into my asscheeks.

>>128465080
Would make the game even easier than what it is

I am so hoping for SWAT to have a riot shield.

>>128466361
I can't imagine how it would work without being broken.

>>128464370
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udUCjJphE-0

>>128458289
Yes.

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>play pub
>everyone has the shortest attention span imaginable
>can't stick to covering 1-2 entrances
>they move in a pack stumbling on each other running to the nearest zed they can see

>finally get to the last wave
>team of randoms seals me in room
>can't find any way out
>almost finish the wave
>die to skrake with basically no health
>wave immediately ends
>thy pick up my shit
>they sell it
>I end up having nothing for the boss round

what a game, what a community

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>>128465080
Za warudo

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>>128465476
>no commando on team
>boss is patty

>>128465080
Partially localised slomo.
Unreal tournament 3 had that.

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>>128470065
And this is why playing with pubs suck. Come play with /kfg/ and git gud

Rising Storm 2 stuff if any folks here care http://steamcommunity.com/games/418460/announcements/detail/987779204833737941

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>>128471167
>where the competing forces are (mostly) armed with automatic weaponry, as well as having even more supporting firepower available, in terms of artillery and air support.
>In general, we are aiming to promote more defined firefights between players, enhancing and updating some of the core shooting mechanics.
>The lead developer for Rising Storm 2: Vietnam is the team that brought you Rising Storm
COD: Vietnam confirmed

>>128470065
Call me a masochist, but I fucking love it. I feel so alive when I'm fighting against my teammates' stupidity as much as the zeds.

All those times I was abandoned and managed to clutch a round without even realizing everyone else had died - hard as a goddamn rock and I'm not ashamed to admit it.

>>128462992
A level 15 demo that can't do shit against sirens

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>>128473058
>not being a good "on contact" perk user.
Get laid m8.

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>>128471848
I have no idea where the fuck you're getting that conclusion from.
Cowadoody is running around in minuscule maps with terrible spawns emphasized by the god awful fov while getting shot constantly by hitscan weapons from every direction and bullshit killstreaks with gameplay that consists on shooting the other dude first and hoping you don't die.

RO/RS is running around in large maps with way too much open terrain where you're constantly fidgeting around and getting caught in geometry because Unreal is a fucking piece of shit while getting shot constantly from the other side of the map by cunts camping with LMGs and sniper rifles with gameplay that consists of trying to sneak up on squads and shooting them in the back because the three SMG slots on your team are filled and that's the only way you're ever going to get kills with a bolt action without immediately getting shot afterwards.

If anything giving everyone jamomatics will probably improve the game.

>>128474441
Yoshiro just confirmed most people are going to have automatics. The only map we've seen so far seems small, and is full of trees so most combat will be close quarters.
Plus the lead developer is the guy who made Rising Storm, so it's probably going to be arcadey and generally shittier than RO2

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>>128471167
You know, if Tripwire had handled KF2 well, I'd seriously consider buying this. Given their record though, why am I supposed to care about this. They'll probably pull the same bullshit on this game.

Also, I really think they should have focused entirely on KF2 while it is still in Early Access and still in dire need of ways to make people want to buy the game and keep them playing. But instead, they, a small company, go ahead and divide themselves into a project that's still in its infancy and another that has just been conceived. I mean, what the fuck.

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>>128474886
Do you not remember RO2's release?
>we'll totally have the Panzer III and light tanks in the game at release

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>>128475486
>RO2 at release

is there any way to watch an RPG fire from the 3rd person without having another player in the game?

>>128456265
Hans is such a fuckhead.

>>128476473
win a game

>>128478251
is there a 3rd person view that can be accessed from the command line is what I'm asking

>>128464370
*unsheates katana*

>>128478508
Try ToggleBehindview

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Martial artist pls

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>wanted to do some relaxing hard
>team was a clusterfuck but pulled through
>demo did most healing even though we had a level 12 medic
>medic had most assist kills
>support got most headshots even with a slinger on team
>slinger got most kills

>>128480035
But did you relax?

>>128480035
I always notice that support gets a lot of headshots pretty easily. Is each pellet that hits considered a headshot?

>>128480605
Not as relaxing as I thought it would be

>>128480712
Yes

>>128480874
ah, would explain why my shitter friend always tops me in that department

>>128479697
thanks m8

>>128480030
>Wanting a shittier Berserker

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>finally level fatport up to 15
>get tac reload
>clearing trash at sanic speed and building money up quicker
Its a shame it loses effectiveness past the level 15 skills

>>128486608
That's not CURRENT YEAR

>>128487051
The game died last year, we're just playing with its corpse

there any way to disable infinite rage on fleshpounds? I'm trying out solo tactics on a test map and it's annoying

Fun Fact!
According to the game code, the healer fluid is made of smoke and fire, colored green and with bubbles in it

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>>128489119

>>128489363
>>128489119
It's amazing how this stuff works...

>>128480030
martial autist with shadow ferret back pls

More poking around in the files
All current bullets are in the category "small".
This implies there will be "large" bullets later

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>>128491394
Also
40mm confirmed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-k4i0JBs8E

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When can I join suicidal? I want to get out this hell hole of hard.

>>128492447
Level 15 preferably

>>128492447
Level 15. Unless you're a Support, then never.

>>128493303
>80 minutes
how long did you have to kite to get that much time wasted?

>>128493767
Probably 30-40mins

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>join over 10 different games
>not a single zerk in any of them
Weird shit

>>128480030
>wanting the worst perk possible first

>>128492447
>there will never be an edit of this gif where squidward's eyes open to show that his eyes are closed, looping endlessly with his infinity eyelids
i dream of little things

I wonder if we'll get another perk with Sharpie.

>>128498394
I wouldn't bet on it.

>>128498394
>First update gave us no perks
>Second update gave us two perks
>Third update gives us one perk

I don't know what to expect anymore, nothing good for sure

>>128498895
We will get half a perk this time then.

>>128496743
Speaking of which, is it worth learning how to use the default melee weapons? They're fun to use in Normal, but otherwise they seem pretty shit.

>>128496743
I don't even bother playing suicidal games without a zerk. They always end in a wipe at wave 7

>>128498979
But Support's already in.

>>128499194
Not really. Some people swear by using them in wave 1-2 to save a few bucks in dosh but in my opinion you make more money than you waste if you just use your 9mm. The knives are only good at killing clots anyway

>>128499194
Just use side attacks while aiming to the head like you'd do as a Zerk, ez money on wave 1.

Helps a lot as Demo.

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>>128499301

are they gonna add more weapons to already existing perks? cause it seems underwhelming compared to kf1

>>128502516
Of course
You gotta keep in mind that at this point we already have more weapons than KF1 at release

>>128502516
Sure for 5.99 per weapon pack :^) but don't worry they will be shared across the server

>>128502516
Once the game's out of EA we'll probably get a few with every holiday event, like that one year KF1 got a whole bunch of new guns for the Xmas event.

>>128503230
wtf EA made this game?

>>128503327
Yeah, don't tell me you haven't bought Killing Floor 2 Premium yet? You'll miss out on all the new maps and weapons anon

>>128503327
EA = Early Access

ded

>>128491783
M203 soon then?

I guess we'll die again, see you guys in 3 months

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>>128511014

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>>128511014

At least the thread's dying instead of becoming a circlejerk about lore and gay fanfiction.

update

when

>>128513679
see
>>128511157

>>128503045
are there any other weapons that are shared other than the zweihander?

>>128491783
Am I missing something?

Is this not for the m79?

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Ill never be able to do this alone

>>128522563
shut up white bitch

>>128526675
No i wanna finish all the achievements

>>128526706
shut up white bitch

so how the fuck am i supposed to solo a fleshpound as a berserker? I
ve tried and tried, but the mother fucker always rages and i can't outrun him nor parry when he's raging

>>128527309

>Buy Pulv
>Right click until it dies

Problem solved.

>>128526874
Why are you so rude anon

>>128528437
shut up white bitch

>>128528757
Made me fuccboi

>>128528858
shut up white bitch

>>128529063
Make me fuccboi

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>>128529879
I DONT KNOW WHY

>>128530005
i know exactly why, it's because no content

>>128531639
THESE WOUHNDS THEY WILL NOT HEAL

SWAT when?
anyone got any info on this perk?
>there are people who actually want the martial autist

>>128532371
Pretty sure there hasn't been anything of note since those old-ass pics of motion capture for some SMGs which many take to mean the SWAT will be using those.

I'd probably like the Martial Artist if they went for, like, the classic rogue/thief archetype for him. All about being a sneaky shit avoiding Zed attention and stabbing stuff from behind for massive damage. It would be a nice way to differentiate another melee perk from Zerk's "charge in and smite everything in the face while shrugging off damage" playstyle.

In any case, Sharp should be the priority. Waiting nearly a year (or longer) to put in one of the most iconic KF perks is very nearly criminal.

>>128532892
>smg dedicated class
SWAT confirmed for garbage
medic could get away with it on KF1 because they weren't damage dealers, but having one class specifically for SMGs is shit.

>>128533028
wasnt there a twitter pic of some people doing the motion testing for the SWAT perk n one had a m60?

>>128533132
i don't know, i'm just an internet troll

>Killing Floor
>you don't kill floors

nice game you have there KFbabs

>>128532892
yeah i agree about the SS, madness

>>128533028
What if SWAT is a second healer perk?

>>128533392
id be down for a deployable amour like supports ammo, then main role as a tank

>>128533548
As incredibly improbable as it is, I'd rather like some KF1 style Medic weapons to reappear. SMGs with healing darts that don't autoaim but deliver their healing instantly rather than that mediocre 10hp/sec.

I'll take literally anything but SWAT as Commando Lite and another addition to the Unnecessary Trash Killer squad, though.

>>128533852
yeah same here, desu i can imagine him being able to stand up on his own to trash kill with the smg's, then when it comes to the big zeds either tank with the riot shield or fight with the m60,hopefully his perks reflect that.

>>128534142
i know 100% i did nit type desu wtf?

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What do you guys think they will add to electric weapons and these categories?

>>128534221
desu baka cuck senpai

>>128534221
You probably typed an acronym indicating sincerity which is currently wordfiltered on 4chan into "desu" for myriad reasons.

>>128534456
u wot m8

>>128534385
could do with electric ones, maybe a crossbow will be added since all the symbols are of weapons in game atm, aside from the hunting rifle

>>128534385
Never noticed the electric weapons tab uses the MWG for its icon. That's kind of odd, I wonder if its just a placeholder.

>Rifles
LAR.
WHEN.

>>128534385
Taser for swat, maybe?
For stunning them big lads.

>>128535045
that would be funny as fuck, friendly fire pls

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>>128454264
Fixed perk trees, for example zerk changes imo:
because they are mostly shit. Zerker should receive HP per level , 1 per level so at the 25 level it would make a bit more sense to pick Vampire perk. (fortitude would still only increase your hp up to 175)

Also Vampire perk skill should heal you per-hit on big zeds/bosses, half of the amount ( ie 2 hp-healed ) and full amount ( 4 hp healed ) for each successful parry. It could stack but heal is over-time, not instant.

For support I would change the following things:
>Bombard , the longer you shoot the zed the more damage you do to it due to armor shred with your shotgun, debuff also works for teammates so they deal more dmg
>20: Strength you can carry more and also your perk weapon bash is a bit faster and will knockdown the big zed if you hit the head
>20: tenacity: you can carry more grenades and you have cluster grenades now.
>25:covering fire: shooting zeds in zed time if they target your ally will slow them down, each successful shot restores 5% of your armor. Slow lasts for 2 seconds post-zedtime
>25:barrage: your shotgun pene is increased by additional 100% and bullets deals additional explosive dmg on top of the normal damage.

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>why always the chainsaw?
>I HATE scrakes!

>there you are, fleshpound!
>fleshpound, so big!

I almost think Anton was built to be a demo.

Rank each class in the following categories

Overpowered

Strong

Okay

Weak

Trash

>>128537619
>Overpowered
Flamebug

>Strong
Zerker
Medic
Gunslinger

>Okay
Commando

>Weak
Demo

>Trash
Support

>>128537747
yeah i can get behind this

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Is there any point to playing demo or support at this point?

Zerks are able to deal with fleshpounds thanks to pulvs as well as take their damage, whereas demo needs space and gets easily shredded if they get too close since even their explosives can fuck them over

Firebugs can clear crowds easier and with less effort, as well as trivializing scrakes thanks to MWG, support costs too much money and the AA12 while great, runs out of ammo way too fast and costs a fuckton whereas firebug can make mad money easy and conserve their ammo since they get a large amount for dirt cheap

>>128538554
play whatever perk you want to man.

>>128538671
>>128538554
this, unless your playing to win

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>>128538554
T-Thanks Tripwire

>>128535614
I think Vampire should let you overheal yourself to an extent. If you're killing trash and taking very little damage, letting a zerk work their way up to the old 200 hp wouldn't seem very out of line.

Not only would it free Zerks from relying on Medics a bit, it would also allow Medics to free up some attention from the Zerk - so long as he's over his normal max health, they can't really help him with healing so they might as well pay more attention to the other players.

>>128539571
would be a good idea as it would reward better players

>>128537619
>overpowered
no one

>strong
berserker,gunslinger,firebug

>okay
medic, demolitions

>weak

>trash
commando, support

>>128540875
next time just write

>I have a shit opinion lol

it's faster.

>>128540875
>okay
>demo
>medic
wat

>>128540875
>putting medic and demo on the same level

>>128541107
rekt

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>>128538554
Give demo's On Perk skill the damage bonus too, as well as buff the Off Perk to 30% as well, because there's just no reason to not go On Perk, even at the start of a game since 10% is nothing.
Considering you get a pair of them when they arrive, it will save you a lot of ammo and having to walk backwards through half the map just to slowly kill one

Support idk, give AA12 and ammo in general a lower price again, let AA12 give you 5 drums naturally instead of 4, so when you pick Ammo you don't have an awkward drum with 16 shots putting you to 96 shots, instead you get a well rounded set of 120 shells so there's at least more reliable power at the end.
Support has a lot of room for improvement at this point, i'm looking at the 20+ skills in particular.

>>128541413
Considering you get a pair of fleshpounds*
Realize saying 'them' wasn't smart with no mention of funpounds

NEW UPDATE WHEN ?

>>128541413
Off Perk is the goofiest goddamn skill at the moment because it encourages you to use weapons that won't get you any Demo Exp, at the cost of things that make the Demo a goddamn Demo (Scrake knockdowns and FP stuns being the only cool toys a Demo gets other than Nuke, in my opinion).

It's well-intentioned, and lord knows I love using off perk weapons to good effect, but jesus. What were they thinking?

>>128541413
Would giving Support's Lv 25 skill the effect of infinite% penetration be OP? I think it'd be great to have Zedtime proc and the Support clear an entire hall of trash with 3-4 shots, or get good DPS on stacked big guys

>Wake up
>Thread is still here

Hopefully the WWAUT this week won't be too awful so we can at least discuss something

>>128484209
That bobby is tipping that chav lady for some reason.
>offisah woman, I'm telling yoose he dindu nuffin
>m'lady

Why are shotguns projectiles again?

>>128542257
I don't think it'd be OP at all. They already get 625% penetration so what's a few hundred more in the best case scenarios?

Plus it would look devastatingly awesome when it paid off and the game could always use more moments like that.

>>128541107
>>128541132
>>128541202
rating as in how good they are in team playing
not as solo mode, otherwise medic, berserker, gunslinger, would all be at the very top

Stop playing in pubs and you'll agree with me

>>128543502
yeah solo they are the top 3, but whos lonely enough to play solo?

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>>128543610
Y-Yeah

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>/kfg/ gets some good ideas for the game
>sad knowing that they'll never get implemented because tripwire only listens to the normal crowd if ever listening to players
Why must we suffer, boys?

>>128544849
Let's make them into our own mutator and host our own servers for it

>>128544849
there are a couple threads on the TWI forums complaining that a lot of people with high skill and a ton of love and experience for the game don't get any say in balance or anything

it's a little stupid when EA is literally just for that, community feedback

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>>128451567
Where did you get that pic?

>>128545765
Demo a cute, would tank fleshpounds for/10

>>128537619
>Overpowered
Firebug, Medic, Zerker

>Strong
Gunslinger

>Okay
Commando
Demo

>Weak
Support

>Trash

>>128537747
This anon speaks the truth

>>128544849
Once mod support is properly implemented we will just make our own game

>>128540875
>okay
medic, demolitions
>>128543502
rating as in how good they are in team playing

Surprised your wrangler lets you use the internet tbqh

God Commando sucks so fucking bad. He doesn't even really excel at trash clearing

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>>128550395
And that's why people say medics can easily put them out their job

>>128550395
Use a crosshair and select single fire. It's the most efficient trash cleaner in the game.

>feeling comfy w/ 18 medic
>want to try Sui first time
>play Burning Paris
>25 commando joins half way through
>get to 8/10
>team slowly die 1 by 1
>last man alive
>commando goes apeshit on me because "Do your job, Medick!"
>game ends
Are these people rare to find on Sui/HoE or should I just stick to Hard and git gud?

>>128550395
>Not having 500-600 kills per game and the highest headshot count at the end of the round

Look at this fucking pleb

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>>128550395
Get good shitlord.

>>128550679
Because people don't know how to play either perk efficiently

>>128552020
Tell him you let him die on purpose, that usually shuts them up.

I don't ever expect medics to heal me so I play cautiously.

>>128552020
How could you possibly git gud playing hard?

>>128552221
>commando says know your role
>burst firing and hitting nothing
Sounds about right

>>128552020
You won't get gud by sticking to hard, as long as you're spamming darts and keeping everyone at 100% at all times you're fine

People can still die, shit happens, big guys happen. Your darts cure HP, not stupidness

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>>128552561
Again, get good shitlord. Using a gif to try and cement how bad you won't prove anything.

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>>128552020
Honestly the only reason I play my 25 medic in pub games anymore is to stop healing in the later waves to watch them all die, then clutch and quit before killing the last clot.

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>>128552760
>implying I play cuckmando
Nah mate, I have self respect and don't play the generic class every FPS kiddie picks, real men rock the dual pistols/revolvers.

>>128552814
>not throwing their weapons out of bounds, throwing all your dosh in a crawler vent, killing the clot and then suiciding with your knife out so they get nothing

>>128552814
Some fag tried pulling that yesterday but nobody died.

>>128553065
No, you do it when you're last man standing. So they have to watch every last second.

>>128553176
I'll take alt tab for $500

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>>128553038
>muh cowboy shoot n scoot
Real men are efficient at every perk and don't have to bother with complaining about other videogames when talking about them.

Get good, shitlord.

>>128551978
>>128552221
I'm not saying that it's incapable of killing shit, my point is that it's basically a straight downgrade from gunslinger. I can trashclear with gunslinger just as well and actually stand a fighting chance against Scrakes or FPs if I'm the last one standing. With Commando that shit is straight up impossible if you are matched up against a couple of Scrakes or FPs because your ammo count is pitiful, you deal literally no fucking damage and you can't outkite them because you are slow as fuck. Commando is such a shitty fucking class because it does everything worse than the other classes and isn't good at any of it.

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>>128555018
Get good then, shitlord. Just because you are too braindead to kite and make headshots doesn't mean the rest of us are.

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>>128555328
>he thinks commando needs to be better than gunslinger at headshots

>>128555328
are you retarded? Are you incapable of reading a basic sentence written in English?

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>>128555651
You should be making headshots with every perk minus FB because his abilities are broken

Maybe that's why you're trash, you waste SCAR and AK rounds body-shotting clots.

>>128556041
You can headshot Bloats and Gorefasts as FB too

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I hate this commando is bad meme. Maybe YOU are the ones thats bad!

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>/kfg/ using only GS, Berserker, and Medic - the most idiot-proof perks
>too stupid to see their own mistakes and just blame pubs

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>>128553585
>>128555328
>>128556041
>>128556416

>>128556416
>Implying I don't play every perk depending on the team setup

>>128556357
stop this shit. It's bad compared to other classes. Doesn't mean you can't play it but in direct comparison only support and maybe demo are worse.

>>128556912
Commando may be a little behind other perks but It's alright I think tiny buffs would make it perfect
>bullets now penetrate 1 enemy
or
>bullets travel in real time during zed time

the latter may even make the perk OP.

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>>128556912
>stop this shit. It's bad compared to other classes. Doesn't mean you can't play it but in direct comparison only support and maybe demo are worse.

baww is it because you can't all me with Commando?

Commando is just as good as GS. A Commando works incredibly well with Zerk with its zed time extends and Zerk's emp's.

>>128547245
IMO nothing is OP right now maybe zerker

medic, firebug, zerker, and gs are all in the strong category, the rest I agree with.

>>128474886

Apparently RS2 Vietnam is being handled by a modding team while TW is just the publishers.

So I have decent hope for the game.
I will definitely volunteer myself to make some maps of certain places from vietnams history that didn't make it in the game. So history buffs get ready to inform me on some interesting locations on Vietnam.

>>128557234
what I would change about it:

since it's a trash clearing class give it a perk that actually makes it feel better at doing that. Right now a lot of smaller Zeds don't immediately die if they get decapitated. So why not give Commando a perk option like "decapitated enemies instantly die"

It would allow you to actively conserve ammo without getting pushed back by hordes of Gorefasts that refuse to die for another 10 minutes.

>>128557686
Bad news, it's the modding team that made Rising Storm.

>>128556357
BOY HE ABOUT TO DO IT!!!

>>128557598
>Commando is just as good as GS.

lol. GS can solo FPs and Scrakes without breaking a sweat and are "slightly" slower at trash clearing which is fucking irrelevant because trash is not threatening anyway. What would I rather have, the ability to go toe to toe with any enemy in the game or ammo efficient trash clearing that can be done almost as good with a GS anyway.

Go kill you are selfe

>>128474441

I have such some cool mechanics I would like to see in a shooter game.

>depending on players view when players are looking up the sway becomes more intense then players who look downwards with there weapons
>Giving the illusion of the power of the high ground

Something like that.

>>128556357
Kermit's a damn bitch

>>128557741
I'd be okay with that change, would help greatly with zed time extension and the bodies would fall down and stop bodyblocking my bullets.

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>do pub
>tell a guy the grenade launcher is the worst, bar maybe the nailgun
>"nah, the nailgun rocks"
>tell them it's useful to know what affects what
>"nerd incoming"
>tell them scrakes RESIST explosives and their rage never wears off
>demo unsheathes his rpg at them every single time
>end up with 4 fp kills as medic, 3 of which by pulv because they never focus fp down and I end up having to bodyblock it my kevlar
>friend commando tops damage dealer at 98k
>even though there was a lvl 20 gunslinger in the team
>commando also tops big zeds kill
>said gunslinger somehow had 50 less kills than me as medic
I'm continually impressed by how bad some people are, and how telling them to improve is met with a resounding 'lol nerd, play CoD if you want to measure weapon stats' or even 'lol, he reads patch notes'

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>>128557901
>trash isn't threatening
Stop playing on Solo Normal then you shitlord

>>128558127
I play exclusively on Suicidal and HoE.

As I said:

Go're

kill

you

are

selfe! """

>>128558127
It can be 6-man HoE, unless you have a pack of gorefasts in your face already just shoot them in the head. With anything, even a fucking med pistol will do

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>>128557901
Hothead GTFO

Just use the damn scar boy! And aim too if ya can ya dummy.

Go back to playing meme indie art games cause thats where ya belong!

>people think FB is overpowered
>rarely tops kill charts
>almost never tops damage charts

I agree that the mwg is too good against scrakes/fps/bosses for a trash clearing class but I've yet to see this game breakingly overpowered firebug everyone seems to complain about. Meanwhile zerkers consistently top both kill charts, damage charts, have the best survivability, and are almost required for Suicidal+ games.

>>128558337
damage charts and kill charts are irrelevant.

>>128558103
>baby difficulty attracts soft players

Why exactly are you whining, cry baby?

>playing on ganja farm 2
>fp spawns, follows me around
>try to lose it by the solar panels
>it rages just as i get there
>run up a solar panel and jump off
>fp hits me while i'm in mid-air
>go soaring out of the map, eventually fall about 1.5km below the trader before dying
community maps are shit

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>retard says Commando is bad
>gets BTFO by everyone else
>"IT'S NOT IDIOT-PROOF ENOUGH TO BE GOOD, TRASH ISN'T WORTH KILLS, DECAPPED ZEDS AREN'T THE SAME AS DEAD ZEDS, TRASH CAN'T KILL ME I'M INVINCIBLE"

>>128558476
I'd at least expect levels 15+ to have an inkling of an idea how the game is played.

>>128558337
The damage output to skill needed ratio is the lowest, but yeah you're right.

>>128558472
Then what the fuck could anyone be using the measure overpoweredness? Honestly? If you have mediocre survivability, damage, weapons and kill potential how exactly is a perk considered overpowered by any measurable means.

>>128558701
>saying that a class is objectively worse than other classes means that this person must be bad at the game

that's literally retards like you. Go kill yourself.

>>128558735
I can certainly agree with this. FP is pretty brainless and easy compared to other perks.

>>128558876
firebug not fleshpound kek

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>>128558785
It does mean you're bad. No perk is useless you just need to know what you excel at, that doesn't mean being able to solo everything all by yourself, there's a reason this is a team oriented game and not a "whoever can top the scoreboard wins and everyone else loses" game.

Get fucking good shitlord.

>>128559106
>there's a reason this is a team oriented game and not a "whoever can top the scoreboard wins and everyone else loses" game
People being reasonable? In MY /kfg/?!

>>128557764

I won't say rising storm was bad because I really do enjoy playing it.

They had some really cool ideas and mechanics with the banzai charges and such and its been a dream of mine to make a game similar to it but even better with the suppression mechanic and that cover mechanic.

I have the system and design plans all written down and someday I hope I can make it real.

>>128558749
What matters is how much a class can contribute in moment to moment gameplay. Commando excels in killing shit in low-pressure situations. Those are the moments where you don't get swarmed by Scrakes, Sirens or FPs. That's why the kill count is so high. The thing is that any class can handle low pressure situations. Whether you kill a group of Zeds a few seconds earlier or later doesn't matter if there is no pressure. What matters however is when it gets chaotic and a bunch of shit pushes into you. Firebug, GS and Berserker are really good at handling those situations. Commando's only advantage is ammo efficient trash clearing in situations where you don't give a shit about ammo efficient trash clearing. GS advantage over commando is that he's relatively good at doing that as well but also packs a punch against high threat targets. That's also the reason why a group of 6 Sharpshooters in KF1 outtrumped a group of 6 Commandos. Sharpshooters could handle trash just fine, not as good as Commandos of course but it wasn't like they literally couldn't deal with it. Vice versa Commandos can't handle big guys just fine. They are ammo efficient at trash clearing in a game where trash clearing is a non-issue.

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>>128558785
>objectively worse

>open /kfg/
>Cuckmandos shitting up the thread again

this general needs to die again. Commando apologists are in denial and retards. DON'T ARGUE WITH THEM.

>>128559360
I want support players to leave.

>>128559227
>GS better at trash cleaning in a chaotic situation than a commando

Please teach me your logic senpai.

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>>128559227
>resestting zed time isn't useful in high pressure games
>trash clearing is a non-issue
>Commando can't handle big guys efficiently
Just stop.

>>128559615
>GS
>more movement speed
>can incapacitate Scrakes or FPs that charge at your team with a leg shot
>can quickswap to deagle which has inherent penetration and can deal with entire groups with one or two shots
>fucks your girlfriend while you cuckmando yourself on an FP that you can't get away from because he bodyblocks your sight while you scream: "B-BUT THIS REALLY WORKS. AMMO EFFICIENT TRASH CLEARING. DON'T LAUGH IT ME. THIS REALLY WORKS"

The thing I like about playing commando is commando is really good at trash clearing. While GS and Firebug are okay at clearing trash they are expected to handle scrakes and FPs when they appear. As commando I just keep killing trash which despite what shitters think actually helps the team a fucking ton. Nothing worse than trying to dance around a scrake with a swarm of sirens and gorefasts up your asshole. Plus zed time extension and callout are really useful for the team.

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>Commando can handle big guys

is that what you are saying you fucking retard?

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>>128559837
>chaos
>lining zeds for penetration