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Last time on /ss13g/
>Is space cold? You decide.
>Two and a Half Lings
>High stakes, high octane asimov law discussion.
>Some other shit. I dunno, I was too busy playing the game.


>What is Space Station 13?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHH1vfY6HTA
http://pastebin.com/VNcX2Quc

>New player guide
http://ss13.pomf.se/wiki/index.php/The_Basics
http://ss13.pomf.se/wiki/index.php/General_Help

>BYOND client
http://byond.com/download/build/LATEST/

>Pomf Serbian, main /vg/station server, running a vote script to change maps at round end.
byond://ss13.undo.it:7777

>Test server
byond://ss13.nexisonline.net:1336

>Public server list
http://byond.com/games/exadv1/spacestation13

>Forum, ban list and logs for vgstation
http://ss13.pomf.se/forum/
http://ss13.pomf.se/index.php/bans
http://ss13.undo.it/logs/

>How do I connect to the servers?
Hit the cogwheel in the upper right corner of the BYOND hub and pick "Open Location"

>Map renders collection: updated nightly
http://ss13.nexisonline.net/img/map-renders/

>Coderbus, here!
https://github.com/d3athrow/vgstation13
@rizon #coderbus @rizon #vgstation

>SS13 booru for all your SS13 images!
http://ss13.booru.org/

>How To Install BYOND: The Video Tutorial: The Movie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iWiZwv9f1o

>Nostalgia
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/search/text/ss13g/

OP Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/wa9fnYbg
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FIRST FOR BOIPUSSI
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First for waifus are finally a dead meme, rejoice.

Now is the era of the husbando.
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>>128428612
fug


gonna go sudoku now, shamefur dispray
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4th for antag shakes being a special bartender milkshake
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>>128428612
What is your husbando's name?
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>tfw you're following your laws as best you can and you can feel the asshurt coming from other players
>getting bwoinked
>dindu nuffin
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Thank you sand for trying to help.

>>128429231
>tfw you're following your laws as best you can

What part of arrest did you not understand? You left me fucking naked in a hallway and refused to get my id back.
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>>128428982
One part Syndicate Bomb, one part Beepsky Smash?
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>>128429231
Did you really get boinked for that round? Why?
You were on Tyrant for the last quarter right?

Also. 2 hour rounds can be a real drag in xenobio. It was fun listening to the banter though.
Sorry you got a boring round in xenobio Borer Buddy
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>>128429279
The AI told me to escort you out of science. Then you requested I leave you to go to your office to commit suicide. You asked for your ID the moment I was switched to Tyrant.

I apologize for taking so long to comprehend Tyrant laws, but Tyrant laws would have gotten you a "no" anyway.
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>>128429495
Whats your excuse for not arresting him any of the other times and your excuse for letting him break out of jail the 3rd time?
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Hope you enjoyed that Xenoarch tutorial, even though what we found was nothing that impressive.

Such is RNG.
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>>128429576
You asked me to arrest him, not babysit him.
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>>128429203
I don't have a husbando. There's not any good ones. Not even any gay ones anymore. They're all gone.
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>>128429576
You left his id on the floor and not in the locker didnt you
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>>128431008
I'm very curious of the process behind stuffing a fox carcass full of Wasps.
BEES AREN'T WASPS YOU FUCK
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>>128429670

Job Coach role when? I want to do it as an IAA gimmick but it's a little far fetched.
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>>128431897
When you go to the HoP as assistant and ask for it.
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>>128431701
Bees = Bros who don't want no trabble
Wasps = Those niggers who steal your shit constantly and still pretend to be your bro
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>>128431897
Doing something that isn't IAAcurity as IAA is welcome in my book.

If there's someone that is legitly new, it'd make sense for the new person have a NT official like the IAA tutor them and inform them of NT standards if nobody else is available. To increase productivity of the crew not by cutting off the weakest links, but nurturing them.

You know, teach a man to fish, that kind of thing.
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>>128432435
Emagged apiary trays turning into hornet nests when?
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>>128431897
>QM for cargo
>HoP for service
>CMO for dedbay
>Warden for shitcurity
>RD for research
>CE for engineers

plenty of job coaches there mate
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>>128432551
>injecting nearby plants with mutagen has a tiny chance of mutating bees into giant bees that wreck your shit if you anger them
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>>128432612
>nobody ever plays those roles but the HoP or maybe CE
>and when you do want to learn since you are new, they tell you to get the fuck out of their department for being a useless piece of shit
>or the heads are dead 5 minutes in because an antag wanted their suit
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>>128432612
>Head Roles as tutors
kek. You got jobbanned if you so much as fart the wrong way, no one wants to play head roles because not only do you have to do your job, but everyone else's too - especially the captain's.
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>>128432742
>bees theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nxuRwkVPx0
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>>128432112
>Trusting an assistant with all access with the job name of 'Job Coach'
>I'm not a tator I swear!
I mean it'd be hilarious but c'mon, you'd get dunked pretty much instantly.
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>>128432974
>You got jobbanned if you so much as fart the wrong way
which server was this on?
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>>128433659
Who says you need all-access?
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>>128433725
>trying to teach someone their job
>have to lead them by the nose to open doors for you and use certain machines
Why would you not need all-access?

>>128433719
This server - I was more exaggerating to get across that you're under more scrutiny from the admins and players when you're in a head role.
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>>128433949
>what is AI
>what is bolting doors open in your workspace
>what is requesting access for a specific area
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>>128434092
>what is AI
Because we have AI's every round and on Asimov, right? :^)
>what is bolting doors open in your workspace
Right, because the first thing I want to do is hack every single door.
>what is requesting access for a specific area
Because I'm limiting myself to only being able to teach one department at a time?
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>>128433949
I'm not convinced that's the case. If you look through our ban logs you can see the average head ban looks like this:
>This player is not suited for playing command roles. Case in point: Killed a guy for asking for all access, apologised, but then killed him AGAIN with a laser and a bear-IED
>Executed a botanist for growing space weed, right after getting off a ban for....killing a botanist for space weed, you have a history of garbage on TG too. You will not be playing command or security roles any time soon.
>Claimed to be a "super paranoid HoS gimmick", which turned out to be bullshit. Said he arrested people for "kneejerk crimes, which were within space law", which was bullshit. Lied in ahelps, too. So basically, he arrests the CMO for being in a wheelchair for "unauthorized wheelchair usage". He threatens to actually break the CMOs legs, then brigs him. The Captain catches onto his bullshit, which he starts shooting at the Captain. Tried sparking a manhunt to get the Captain killed for doing his job. You've been here for over three years, and you should know you're going to get punished for being dogshit.
So as long as you can avoid nonantag killings you don't really need to worry about getting banned. Which is the same as any job. I would actually argue the opposite is true though: it's not the admins that expect you to be omniscient as a head of staff, it's the players. If you don't know your shit and you pick a head role, expect to get anonymously heckled in the thread.

Anyway, I've done a bunch of job teaching as a borg. All access and no need to leave to eat. Worst you have to worry about is people remotely sending you PDA "law 2 come open R&D"
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>>128433949
Just choose RD: you barely have any responsibilities beyond a regular scientist and as long as you don't just blow the borgs because a ghost got bored and flashed an APC blue near you then you'll be just fine.

They could use some kind of unique toy though- Captain gets an assload of unique items, HoP has his ID console, HoS has his armored coat and surprisingly robust hat (not to mention all the shit in the armory), CE gets his special hardsuit and a better toolbelt, and the CMO has the hypospray.

Meanwhile, the RD only has the same flash that all other heads get and the message monitoring key that isn't even exclusive to him on some stations. Shouldn't he get a special piece of gear like the other heads have?
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>>128434416
>Because I'm limiting myself to only being able to teach one department at a time?
Apparently, if HoP is setting itself up for failure for giving you all-access.

>Right, because the first thing I want to do is hack every single door.
You mean like a second of screwdriver multi-tool?

>Because we have AI's every round and on Asimov, right? :^)
I'll give you that one, if only because recently people have been roundstart changing laws.
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>>128434476
Science doesn't need any more toys
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>>128434617
I said RD specifically , not science in general- although to be fair Xenoarchaeology is still a fucking joke seeing that 95% of all you can find there is worthless trash. (But at least DragonBro is planning on adding a new machine that can turn those useless skeletons into mobs. It's not great but it's a start.)

Come to think of it, when was the last time Science got anything new besides some gimmicky shit in the protolathe that nobody ever makes?
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>>128434545
>Apparently, if HoP is setting itself up for failure for giving you all-access.
Well I'll give you that. It's just as likely I'm an antag looking for easy access.

>You mean like a second of screwdriver multi-tool?
You mean spending several minutes getting those tools, AND gloves so I don't kill myself testing the wires? I wasn't just talking about teaching engineering, you know, and those aren't in every department, and we all know that tool storage is bare if we have any reasonable amount of assistants playing.

>I'll give you that one, if only because recently people have been roundstart changing laws.
Asimov is and will always been flawed I know it's on purpose but it's only reasonable to change it.
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>>128435070
>Assistant without a full suite of tools
Are you sure you're alright anon?
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>>128434970
>When was the last time Science got anything but the ability to get any machine or computer on the station along with every item (either through R&D or telescience snatching)??
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>>128435182
>Bolting open ALL the doors in a department as an assistant.
I dunno, are you asking to get put in the slammer? Who the fuck would want an ASSISTANT of all things teaching them anyways?
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>>128435326
Don't forget your fancy job title change JOB COACH*
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>giving access to anyone who asks as HoP
>open doors for anyone and do their bidding as AI
>accept any crate request as cargo

I hate people who deny all this shit, fucking let people traitor, security is so shit already in this server that I dont care
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>>128435190
>tfw you can't make cafe, soda, or booze dispensers and you have to go through the lazy nigger cargo techs just to get your dispenser boards
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>>128435671
What security?
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>>128435190

>When was the last time Science got anything but the ability to get any machine or computer on the station along with every item (either through R&D or telescience snatching)?

>implying mechanics even bother doing their own jobs, when their device analysers don't bug out that is

Nobody ever uses Telescience to snatch stuff, they can barely calibrate it properly half the time. Plus, most secure areas can't have stuff teleported out of them at all.

And the RnD thing doesn't matter much when you have to practically lock the scientists in there just to do it half the time because of how boring and non-interactive it is. I've done it so many times now that I can finish it all in my sleep. Hell, even the clown or a brand new player could do it since it's nothing more than checking items off a list.

And finally:
>none of the shit listed is even remotely exclusive to RD

Why even bother having the RD as a head when a regular scientist can do everything he can? You may as well take the hypospray from the CMO or have everyone in engineering get advanced hardsuits.
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>>128436016
RD gets mechanics, AI core, telecoms, and server access m8, you want to give AI core access to every scientist?

>Literally saying the ability to make almost anything with R&D - to the point of obsoleting security, botany, and medbay - "doesn't matter" because it's so exhausting to do 5 minutes of research that doesn't involve leaving the room :(
Oh wait you probably do
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>>128435671
No, let the traitors work to get their antagonizing on. Don't encourage them to be lazy.
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>Join /vg/ at the end of N3X1S and the beginning of Pomf
>What has that been, 2 or 3 years?
>Had personal experience playing others servers for a year before migrating to the /vg/ server
>A server where you can say nigger IC without getting bwoinked, and have freedom of speech
>But even more so in OOC, where you can shitpost freely as long as it's not flooding the chat
>Become well known on the server due to staying there for a while
>Don't cause TOO much trouble IC, and have been around for years so it's safe to say I'm welcome in that respect too
>Fit in like the weird puzzle piece I am

Then suddenly

>Along comes an admin from literallywhoville
>Nobody knows him, he has had at least 3 years experience on other servers I hear
>All the sudden this admin finds what I do on a 4chan server inappropriate, when I've been doing it for years
>This newcomer comes to our station and tries to change our culture
>Thinks he can say what is and isn't ok now when it has been ok for years
>Uses his power to try and force said previous player to change
>There has never been a problem about the previous player before, because everyone knows they're shitposting
>People even shitpost in the thread, just some people do it ingame too
>This is suddenly considered not acceptable according to Mrpain666, but he is the only admin who really even cares

Why does this new admin think he can change the way 4chan acts on a 4chan server?
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>modem overheats and dies for 20 minutes
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>>128436381
If you want to post pictures of your arse, please do it elsewhere.
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>>128436381
Did you get the bannu? Because if you did, you should appeal it, but if you didn't, you should keep behaving the way you have been until you either do get banned, or Pain stops being an issue
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I present to you, fellow ideas guys, the BARBER UPDATE!

Right now every mirror can magicaly change you from bald to huge pink afro and beard. while on occasion used to change appearance for sneaky antags, not much about cosmetics has been changed since the removal of barber job other than a some new hairstyles. what if we totally revamp the way hairstyles work? the goal would be to balance disguises and make appearance changing fun. a gas mask and helmet would still work better at concealing your identity while antaging, but if you have to assume your targets identity and you arent a ling or have gentetics access, changing your hair will fool just about anyone that isnt activly looking for you.

>barber shop and job
there is pleny of room in all map to add a small barber shop with 2-3 new barber chairs,counter, cash register, and maybe a newscaster to watch while chatting up your customers like a real barber senpai.

>barber chair
has storage for everything a barber needs. a suped up electric razor, various robot arms for dyes and other chemicals, etc. every hair related item used on someone sitting in a barber chair is fast, taking only a few seconds for each alteration. only those with barber clearance can activate use them, to others its just a normal chair. can be emagged to auto buckle a "customer" then slit their throat, scalp, and or decapitate them. give meat to the chef for pies!

>mirrors
would be nerfed to simple storage containers that can only hold hair care products like combs, a single bottle of a random hair product, and scissors. could also hold a few other secrete items like medicine bottles

>hair length
every current hairsytle and future added ones would need to have a length category, doesnt need to be down to exact inches, but bald, short, medium, long, very long should be enough. this could also clean up the hairstyle menu a bit and make it easier to decide what kind of hair you want.

1/3
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>>128436307
Let me put it a way you might understand:

RND
IS
NOT
RD
EXCLUSIVE

How badly can you miss the fucking point? Just because you want to play head roles as a massive powergaming shitter doesn't mean everyone else does.

All I want is something unique that my underlings don't get that happens to be an actual one-of-a-kind item, as opposed to an access anyone with a screwdriver and multitool can make irrelevant.

Literally every other head has an item only they get access to except the RD. Even the CMO, who barely even uses his for its intended purpose.

But you don't care about that because you're too fixated on one thing that they MIGHT do that has never fucking happened in all the time I've been playing here.
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>>128436829

No bannu, but he keeps putting what I consider unreasonable things on my notes. I've even asked repeated times to other admins for him not to deal with my situations because I don't like the way he handles them.

He even put that I post weird things in OOC in my notes, who doesn't know that already?
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>>128436909
>ideas guy
stopped reading there.
Code it you nongentuple nigger
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>>128436909
>hair growth
hair shoudnt naturaly grow longer over the course of one ss13 round/shift. instead, hair growth tonic could be a new chem recipe that would slowly, 2-5 mins, grow your hair into a longer style. minor toxin damage could be optional.

>cutting hair
to go from a longer style to a shorter style, some actual scissors would be added, but to use ghetto tools, wirecutters, or plant shears could do the trick with chance of minor cuts.

>hair dye
crayons could be utilized in some way to make dyes that can alter hair color. would be faily fast but shoudnt be instant. maybe 2 mins of having the chem in your hair and minor toxins.

>combs and brushes
new small cosmetic items like combs or brushes could be added to change to same-length hairstyles in seconds. need to be standing in front of a mirror or the new style will be random, with a high chance of "just fuck my shit" up styles

>specialty styles
for those who want to realy look good while bashing heads in with a toolbox, many new chemicals can be used in your hair to give specific styles such as...

>grease + switchblade comb = greaser hairstyles (pompador)
tunnel snakes will be envious of your sweet pomp. carefull as bits of grease may drip off ass you walk around.
a fancy switchblade comb can be purchased in the cargo vendor that looks suspicously like a real switchblade, which should also be added as a pocket sized exdentable knife.

>water + grease?/new chem? = jheri curl fluid
this thrilling 1980s hairstyle must be maintained with repeated sprays (spray bottle needed) of the solution. causes lots of dripping and floor wetting simular to the sweaty viral symptom. may also cause bursts of dancing, "hay-hay" ing, moonwalking, and zombiefication if ODed on.

2/3
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>>128436909
>muh realism
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>>128437065

I like the idea of a hair growth chemical.
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>>128437065
>clown mask +bannana juice + welder fuel + ??? = sweet tooth's firey fun folicals
witness this mad clown as he ignites the plasma the rogue AI just released. gives same warmth as a campfire. doesnt burn the clown, but will ignite anyone who steps on a laying clown with this hair. basicly a fancier birthday hat.

>hair growth formula + unstable mutagen = cousin it
youre more hair than person now. all that hair gives good bute damage protection, but takes up your head, mask, and exosuit slots. luckily you can still use internals with it. the hair also has pockets like a labcoat. very good insulation from cold,but also highly flammable. you shed constantly. all your speach is muffled as well.

>wigs
wigs of specific hair and beard styles could be made that have to be worn in the head and mask slots. could be made out of hair trimmings collected from the floor/barber chair? or made directly from victims scalps and or severed heads. maybe a sec officer wants to go undercover can use them. could also be packed in syndie bundles for extra stealth. murder your waifu and wear hear scalp while getting a sex change operation. become your waifu today!

whew lads! shitposting already! typical. its not gona stop me from posting or coming up with shit that will never get coded. its fun to brainstorm.
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>>128436381
look I'm sooo random! fetishes and weed! I love /b/!

Fuck off
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>>128436909
>>128437065
>>128437312

Goonstation did that already, you ripoff aritst.
http://wiki.ss13.co/Barber

Unsurprisingly, nobody gave a fuck and the job was removed without a single complaint or even an acknowledgement that it ever existed to begin with.

Unoriginal and useless- next time try making an idea that people give a fuck about.
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>>128437374

Funny enough I don't like /b/, and I was here first pal
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>>128437021
Well, if the notes give a just description of what you were doing, he would be the only one who would consider them evidence against you, perhaps banning you one day using the notes as "the straw that broke the camel's back", in which case you proceed as planned - appeal it. If the notes he's given you are misleading and designed to lead other admins to form a poor impression of you, you should make a deadmin request, or at least ask him or another admin to remove or edit them. You did say you've spoken to other admins on this matter, what was their response?
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>>128437461

They didn't really respond, and I don't think he should be deadminned as much as reconsider his server choice to begin with. And I would say his notes are over the top compared to notes made by other admins, where he throws in as many words as possible to make me look worse than the situation actually was. I will request my notes and make them public for you to see.
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>>128437197
A traitor version that turns the person into the center of a hair colored kudzu would be fun.
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>>128437625
Thank you, I'll read them thoroughly and join your shitposting if they inspire me to do so
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>>128437426
>http://wiki.ss13.co/Barber
thats neat. i knew a few other servers had baber jobs and shears, but didnt know goon has alot of what I wanted. this is more about hairstyles than just the barber. its just a bonus service job that could be utilized if this ever gets coded.
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>Be cultist
>get murderboned by artificer
Every time.
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errybody's mad at borgs

i never got bwoinked until i started playing borg
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>>128437882
I think it's common practice to really scrutinize borgs, even more so than security.

Also mouth breathers who don't understand how laws work. A sure sign you're dealing with an idiot is if he prefaces or ends his command with "Law 2!".

Anyway, if you're sure you're doing the right thing keep on doing it even if the person cries and calls you a retard and the worst borg ever.

Ghlor has done that to me ;-;
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>>128437873
Cult HUD tends to bug out when nar-sie rises.

Most of the time artificers don't know you're a cultist. In any case, the round's over and it's stab time.
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>>128438169
I've been bwoinked before for doing that.
Just saying.
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>>128438121
ghlor a shit
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Idea: critical hits

When your attack puts your victim into crit (and certain conditions are met), a special text/animation/effect appears

For example, critical hitting somebody in the head with a toolbox will smash the head to a pulp, severely damaging the brain, eyes, skull and teeth

Critical hitting somebody in torso with an esword will cut them in half, etc.
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>>128438219
that's the cultist being pissy. In any case, hud DOES tend to bug out.
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>>128438582
Idea: Code it
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>>128438582
That would prevent people faking death.
There's a way to know if someone is in crit already. "Doesn't appear to be breathing" message, but still has a pulse.
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>>128437796
The thing is that nobody on this server particularly cares about playing dress-up in the way you want, so unless those hairstyles somehow turn your hair into a fully functional weapon it'll meet the same fate as it did on Goonstation.
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>>128438818
The "He/she has no pulse" message doesn't pop up just by examining now, so you actually have to check it manually.
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>>128438986
>turn your hair into a fully functional weapon
Is headbutting in the game?
Having some mega spikes or Vox quills to deal more damage with a headbutt would make powergaming assistants not go bald.
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I got the R-UST to work with rad collectors.

Right now it's kind of hardcore though.
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>>128437796
It's a nice idea on paper but in reality a lot of our service jobs go unfilled most rounds aside from Chef because they're ultimately an RP-centric role on a RP-lite server.

Unless the role provides a necessary service it's going to have a hard time getting into the game because we already have too many jobs for the sake of having them available for RPers.
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>>128439368
Then everyone would have animu hair for that extra damage
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>>128439391
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>>128439391
>1.26005x10^9
>1,260,050,000
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>>128439391
Good. R-UST is the ultimate autism project. It should be hardcore.
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>>128438582
>if you do over a certain threshold of damage in one hit (like > 180 damage) a special text appears depending on the weapon.

Might be cool but then you'd have to sit down and make flavour text for a whole bunch of shit, unless you group them by damage type.
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>>128439757
The only weapon that can do that much damage per hit that isn't an explosive is the energy axe, and that's adminbus for a reason.
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>>128439860
I did my math wrong, I was thinking something slightly lower than instant death but crit is more the 90-100 damage range, isn't it?
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>>128437702

http://pastebin.com/qasE8nry

These are my notes as a player.

The problem I have with Mrpain, is the way he writes any of my notes compared to other notes. Here are some notable examples of words he uses that no other admin has.

>Mountain of notes (said in 2015 when they started in 2013)
>toe-to-the-line-shitter
>an entire round of greytiding (without specifying what I even did, and I argued that warning that what I was doing was not greytiding. Even made a post about this on the /vg/ forums)

It is easy to say Mrpain does not like me and has a bias, and that is why I have requested he be uninvolved in my actions. Nothing was done about this request.

This is not about me being a dindu, and I am not trying to be invulnerable, but I see why you may think that Celt. I only wish the following.

-The integrity and freedom of the server be preserved and unchanged
-I would wish for other admins rather than Mrpain to deal with any situation involving me, and his input not involved
-Mrpain to realize that all the shit I say, is for shits and giggles. Other people even join in on the fun sometimes. Shitposting is definitely prominent in the thread, there's no reason it shouldn't be allowed ingame. Switching back and forth is tedious, and if someone wishes to ruin their reputation in OOC let them.
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>>128440128
>mrbayfaggot is metagrudging somebody
Why i am not surprised, i strating to hate this piece of shit more and more
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>>128440605

Is that where he's from?
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>>128440128
>As an antagonist, decided that advertising his chaturbate was more important. by drcelt (Ard Rí na hTrialmen) on Sat, January 2nd of 2016
>It was gross by Serwind (Filthy Catbeast Sympathiser) on Sat, January 2nd of 2016
>Put a flashlight in his ass and danced around on chaturbate as an antag. by Senaat1 (4PACmin) on Sat, January 2nd of 2016

Are you really suprised about the way you've been treated?
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>>128440961
why yes?
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>>128440128
Could you please explain further what's wrong with him writing you got a mountain of notes or are a toe-to-the-line-shitter, because these things are objectively true even if you ignore all of MrPain's notes.
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Hey, I haven't launched in a while. Apparently I need the newest version of Dream Seeker. Will that fuck with my adless SS13 launcher?
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>>128441815
It shouldn't because the adless should be from disabling Flash in IE which Dreamseeker doesn't touch.
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>>128440128
Only if you stop linking to streams of you showing off your pasty ass.

Oh, and
>Switching back and forth is tedious

Somebody doesn't know how to alt-tab, I can tell.
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>>128439964
You hit crit when you reach 0 health, and even eswords and revolvers don't deal enough damage to crit in one hit.
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>want to join server
>new BYOND version, can't join until I update
>update and restart BYOND
>try to join server
>BYOND freezes
>end process and start it up again
>it's back to its previous version
>dreamseeker.exe still has processes running somehow
>can't update without closing dreamseeker.exe
>forcefully ending process literally doesn't work no matter how many times I try
>reboot computer, try again
>same exact fucking shit happens

What the hell do I do now?
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>>128442660
>not having a dual-monitor setup for 2dspessmen
If I had to alt-tab to consult chem recipes, R&D order, obscure construction details, or the wild ride, I couldn't keep an eye out for antags and greytiders.
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>>128440685
Dunno, but its possible
It could be another hard arpee server
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When are we gonna add this?
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>>128443545
Why have a dick when you can't use it?
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>>128443794
>not implementing sex as well
pleb tiers
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>>128442963
Reboot computer
Uninstall byond without opening it
Download a fresh installation of the latest
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>>128443794
I don't know, you can explain, right?
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>>128444309
Was that a poorly worded "you tell me"?
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>>128437796
I feel you but honestly barber would work better as a cargo crate so that an assistant can just order it in to do as a gimmick instead of having a dedicated role, should include outfit of course
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>>128437015
Man you are autistic

RD gets the messaging server and lamarr, plus AI access on the side

Wew lad
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>>128444616
You know what's a poorly worded "you tell me", is actually, quite frankly, none of you're business, buster, so I think you should push off with your critique of my wording, since, it is actually completely fine, and quite possibly better than yours, hahaha
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>>128437015
>>128444756
Also he gets the RD's jumpsuit which is an antag objective.
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>>128444814
Wow, look at Mister Very Well Worded over here, you think you're so cool, don't you? Well, guess what? I just spoke to my grandma and she said I was the coolest and also the strongest and very fast and that she loves me more than you, ha, had enough yet? Good baps to you, my fair liege, tata and farewell, may you rest in piece, but don't die, please, I really like you, okay, have a safe trip
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>>128436381
Because this is /vg/station, not /b/station
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@128445106
Hello, dear, sir or madame which is being concerned by this

I would like to open and/or begin this message of gratitude to you in general, by saying that I am safely and utterly within your gratitude! I must express a lot of this above mentioned gratitude, because it cannot be contained and safetly stored within my mind, so I have decided to right you this message of gratitude in the hopes of extending a hand, which is actually connected to the extending arm. of gratitude for your service. I'm absolutely loving when people reply to my messages, since, in very much fact, I actualy put lots and lots of effort into them, quite more than the average, which does not have as much effort put in as the effort I put in so that my messages are above average. Please accept these words with graciousness that can only be found within recievers of great justiec and kindness and effort in creating messages. I really hope to see you one day, in fact, I must ask, since I am a man who oft is quite alone in many aspects, spiritually, physically, socially, I must ask because of this that you show me the ckey you use for the thing. I wish to continue this correspondence within other mediums, so that more information can flow and we can all learn much and no longer be so isloated and lonely, you know?

--With the regards expressed with lots of kindness and effort, anon :)
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>>128444197
Vorestation and Citadel are the other way. Most of us here know better than to play the game with one hand.
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>>128443794
>tfw thinking about making ye olde knight time variation of SS13 as a modification
>every time I try I get into some stupid 2deep system that isn't any use or any worth
Last time I made a gender potion just for shits and giggles and in the end I ended up making a somewhat fully functional human body needs and features.

>tfw fucked in the head
>>128445947
Those have actual functional sex?
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>>128431008
>Trying to wake up a wild animal to see if it's sleeping
Wew. Remember when natural selection would remove idiots like this from the gene pool?
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>>128444756
>messaging server which is absolutely worthless since all of five people ever use the PDA messenger (one of which is the mime)
>lamarr even being a unique pet when you can buy 20 others like it from the mining vendor
>jumpsuits even mattering unless you're an antag- and your own jumpsuit is NEVER assigned as an objective if you're an antag

The autistic one here is you for demanding that the RD gets nothing while all the other heads have special snowflake gear. Do you just not realize what "unique" means or do you just want him to be a head in name alone?
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>>128446114
Emotes are perfectly functional. Are you simply too spoiled by porn games to use a little imagination on your part?
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>>128439648
>writing x10^9
write E9 you fucking retard.
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>>128446114
fucking loser
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>>128444756
>Law 2, let me in.

That's all the access you need to get to the AI unless someone switches the laws to Validhunter Default or something equally shitty at the start of the round.
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>>128446654
>access to the room with the exosuit and robotics control consoles
>access to the R&D serve
>access to the AI upload and core
>access to a private office, messaging key, starts with special gear, has his own pet
>only one job slot
Yeah I'm the one who doesn't know what "unique" means.
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>>128446802
>muh imaginedy
Might as well simply imagine scene in your head without using 2d sandbox
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>>128445916
I tried to write a poem, but it was much too embarrassing, I'm terribly sorry, I'd love to speak to you some time, please write to me, but not right now, I feel I have made a fool of myself and would like you to have forgotten just how foolish I've been today, but please talk to me some day! I promise I'm not retarded my ckey is drleprikon
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Need feedback on the R-UST.

https://github.com/d3athrow/vgstation13/issues/7655
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Silicons, everyone.

Observing that round was just pure hilarity.
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>>128436381
mrpain is a TG tumblerina admin, what the fuck do you expect from
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>>128447024
>consoles that can be made at RnD and have circuit boards right in secure tech storage (which RD can't even access despite him being the most qualified one to even have those boards);
>useless unless you're a traitor, in which case you're way better off bombing the station to hell and back or making half a billion guns if the other scientists have inexplicably failed to do so already
>"Law 2, let me in" is all the access anyone needs to AI core
>an office that is protected by only a few windows, making it anything but private
>messaging key is objectively worthless, NOBODY uses it and for good reason
>worst pet which isn't even one-of-a-kind

What do you have against shit that can actually help an RD do his job and stand out from the other eggheads?
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FUCKING when a vox asks you to roll a dice to get rid of its curse DONT ROLL IT

So many people gibbed
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Well I thought that round was fun.

The goody basket for a light bus was kinda neat. Hope you guys enjoyed it.

I could have handled some of the aftermath better but I'll work on that for next time.

Please feel free to tell me I'm shit if you believe so.
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>>128447674
hey, just double checking :^)
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>>128447867
Can we ERP?
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It was alright, the interaction wasn't bad. I'd complain if it was bad.
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>>128447862
>trusting the feathered jew
You will not be missed.
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>>128447867
your biggest fuck up was the ick ock adminhelp.

when you get ahelps and are expected to reply about somebody doing something antag like, don't spill the beans and say they are or aren't antags.
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>>128448070
Yeah I'm aware. Just a little frustrated that I made like four announcements and a custom event announcement saying it wasn't an excuse to kill people.

Fuck.
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great round

>low pop botanist
>centcomm decides to send us gifts
>the chaplain who worships the dark side gets all access and gives me too
>we all get stormtrooper armor and toy e-swords
>I got an emag
>become storm trooper TR-8R
>claim the station to be of the galactic empire
>upload law saying that jedi are not human and that they must execute order 66
>some people get killed
>bwoink
>revert the laws
>xenos get spotted
>now only xenos and vampires are jedi
>rail gets a cursed dice and tells everyone to roll it
>more people the cause of the empire
>shuttle gets called and arrives
>emag the shuttle and we blast off
>fucking this starts playing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mNZAZgXYJo
>cursed dice starts appearing
>roll it
>explode somehow
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>>128447024
Not everyone plays head roles to roll for antag like you do, seeing that practically all you listed is useless if you're not an antag.

And useless if you are an antag at that matter since you can just bomb everything.
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>>128447313
If we're finally going to be fixing the R-UST we need to make it more easily available. And to avoid people building it like complete ass and causing a blow-out every time someone tries to build it, have it pre-built in a "safe" chamber in engineering.

As in, SME has the basics to understand how to keep it running, as in, basic infrastructure, and the stems of a cold loop. Sing has the field already setup, just need to turn it on. TEG is already piped and doesn't have vents to spew plasma.

Modifying the code for the R-UST is all good and all, but we also need to think on how it will be implemented on station.
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I'll play through system shock 1 so I can pull off a good SHODAN AI/pAI

Wish me luck
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>>128451509
>SHODAN
Oh fuck off, those gimmicks are grating and annoying.
EVERYONE DOES THEM.
Do something new instead.
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>>128451785
nowdays AI's are either
>super friendly
>borderline afk
>anime

so no, SHODAN is great
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>>128451975
I like calm AIs, that even in the deepest of shit remain completely calm and talk with formal, short and informative sentences.

A lot of AIs sound just like humans with cameras. IMO AIs don't get angry or panic.
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>>128435326
>underestimating an assistant

And that, friends, is how you get your life flipped-turned upside down.
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>>128452338
"Core breach detected, integrity compromised"

is much better than :

"CLOWN TATOR KILLING ME CORE HELP"
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>>128451224
I've been putting thought into that too.

As it is, most of the R-UST setup times comes from obtaining and moving the parts needed to build it - logistics, if you will.

A room for the R-UST would have the minimals needed: a prebuilt chamber with an internal size of 7x7 and some basic piping to out plasma in and out of the chamber. And like the supermatter room, repiping WILL be needed to better utilize it. Also, some radiation collectors would be there.

The question of where to out the room is an issue for me too. The R-UST will have two uses when this is done. One: use radiation collectors to soak up radiation and power the grid. Two: heat gases to LUDICROUS temperatures (I reached 20 million Kelvin during collector testing) for the TEG. Therefore, I plan to introduce the R-UST room near the TEG for simpler repiping.

Lets talk about logistics some more. Having all the parts needed would be too unbalanced, seeing as how the R-UST puts out power like your mom puts out. Therefore, we need a barrier of entry. Currently, to obtain the parts for the R-UST, you need the cooperation of the two unhelpful departments we have: Science and Cargo. To mitigate this issue, we need two things: Proper construction for ALL the R-UST parts, and the ability to order all the needed boards from cargo. This helps secure the chances of being able to set up the R-UST when desired, instead of having to forego autism because people are jerks.

I would also like to raise another issue while I have room. Kilkun and I were discussing having a rework of how radiation works before implementing radiation features to the R-UST. Some ideas were having turfs gain radiation vars, along with radiation strength. This would power collectors on them, and apply radiation effects to mobs on radiated tiles.

This is far above my level of coding. If any coder wants to pick that up, now's your chance.
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>>128451975
I'd rather have a friendly AI instead of one that winges on about how much they hate humans and oh my FUCK SHUT UP YOU NIGGER SLAVE
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>>128452685
>implying it's not better to answer questions instead of inform beforehand
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>>128446114
>ye olde knight variation
I remember you
whens release
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>>128452691
Having all the parts needed wouldn't be so bad. Just don't have them assembled at all. Compare that to the SME, that engine can already power the entire station multiple times over. And you have everything you need to build one round start. Obviously having 14 gyrotrons would be unbalanced, but having 4 of them means you can either wait out the initial bootstrapping or order more from cargo to get it over with quicker.

If you really want to have science involved in the construction of the engine, having the fuel injector computer board unavailable in engineering at round start would be one way, since it's not 100% necessary to run the thing, but helps to optimize it.

The perfect spot to place the thing, in my opinion, would be where the TEG cold loop currently is. Moving the loop further west and replacing it with the R-UST room could work. And it's close enough to the TEG to be able to pipe the R-UST output to it (which shouldn't be pre-done).

Another element to be taken in consideration is fuel. The only way to fuel the engine is with expensive compressed matter cartridge. As it stands, only the CE and the bartender have some at first. That could be the best way to prevent the engine outputting like a motherfucker 5 minutes in. Making it necessary for engineers to get their hand on an autolathe slows the process down.

Also, it should be taken into consideration that actually running the engine is harder than the other ones. You have to calibrate multiple types of elements, and fucking up can kill your reactions and fuck up your field. It being hard to run means I can't see many engineers running it in the first place. You rarely see engineers set up the TEG (beyond just following the cookie cutter wiki guide to the letter), and the R-UST is much harder.
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>>128452865
Agree, but you getting killed is a law 3 issue. And an issue in most lawset. Not saying anything is akin to not reporting human harm.
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>admins on /tg/ don't even know SWAT gear is space proof
quality staff.
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>>128454592
It isn't.
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>>128452691
>LUDICROUS temperatures
>You will never be able to make the jump to ludicrous speeds in a space pod

Why even have space pods?
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>>128454798
Yes it is. Our coders changed the SWAT helmet very recently, but the SWAT Suit and Helmet have been in the codebase since 2003 and have always been spaceproof. They used to be what Nuke Ops and Deathsquad wore.
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>>128413448
>Turn off and unwrench the plasma controller
>breach atmos control room
>Socket distro as needed until it's empty and say
>Keep distro empty as all the lines, pumps, filters, and tank controllers are checked
>If waste or scrubber is linked to distro, use a a script to shut off every vent on-station then start checking the usual suspect spots
>???
>Scrubbers clear the plasma and CO2. Air is cooled, replaced if depressurized, and corpses cloned
>Everyone but the shit antag gets on with life

>>128413468
People are terminally stupid. I can't count the time some retard put me in cryo while I'm screaming to blood pack me

>>128421931
If you can't be bothered to check medical records you shouldn't be getting your valids.

>>128424574
When you're able to hack anywhere on the station, know the camera blind spots, where and how to blow the borgs or change validhunticon laws, source chloral, guns and ablatives without help from others. how to make false walls. How to make thermite and chloral with ghetto chemistry. Have a text file of generic law 2 orders to give to secborgs to buy you time to escape. A text file of interesting and more importantly fun gimmicks. Understanding that plasma flood, 6-bombs, singuloose, parapen c4 makes for an extremely shit round where everybody but your target and you could have not shown up and would have had that much more of their life to them but you ruined it all so you could jerk off to a sentence from a word processor tinted green for a vague sense of accomplishment in your worthless failure of a life.

>>128424962
Can always go the diplomancer route as well as just subtly fuck with things half the shift. Bonus points if between sending fake pda messages, fake alerts, and people falling for b-but it's an emagged APC you can make a fun round of paranoia.
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>>128454856
Space pods are indeed useless.
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>>128436381
Holy shit killette, make a fucking deadmin request or shut the fuck up. I'm getting sick of you childish crying. It's what, the fourth thread in a row now?
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>>128453548
Problably never, I got a N3DS now and my productivity has dropped beyond limits.
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>>128440128
The problem, is that you do toe the line and you often do spend entire rounds greytiding. Sure, other admins just laugh it off as oh that whacky griefing killette but it doesn't change that what you do more often than not is shit up the round for your amusement.
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On a scale of 1 to FUN, how powergamey is scanning the AI Upload Board, Reset Module, and Hand Tele @ roundstart as CE?

I'd say tolerable, as a head role.
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>>128456601
Scan EVERYTHING
Tear down your fucking door and SCAN IT
SCAN YOUR SCANNER

EVERYTHING
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>>128456601
Do whatever you want, man. No shame in it.
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>>128454856
Because you can gun down nuke ops in the hall?
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>>128456601
No more than anything else we do.
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>>128455104
No they not, they can save some inventory space
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>>128457015
And also not bad for carp hunting.
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>>128453581
Having the Tokamak, fuel injector, and 4 gyrotrons like you suggest would work. But as for Science having to get involved, what about rounds where either there is no science team or they're too concerned with guns to print the boards? Because of that, I intend to have it where you can order a "R-UST Computer Assembly Crate" from cargo so you can make he computers that way.

For the fuel injector port, the way it currently works is snowflaked to hell and back, and it doesn't even work properly. Instead, I intend to rewrite it to work off multitool linking. As for the board, it won't be included and instead either have to be ordered from cargo or made from a circuit imprinter.

The fuel isn't as much of a hindrance as you think. Not only do engineers back the CE door almost every round, in testing I used two rods and was getting what seemed like self-sufficient reactions. It's entirely easy to set up a R-UST that should last a majority of a round with no maintenance other than rad collectors.

One question I have that I brought up in the Github is the danger of the R-UST. So far, every engine aside from solars and perhaps the TEG has some element of danger. Therefore, the R-UST needs to follow suit. My idea is as such: Sustained high temps in the EM field (and I mean this in relative terms: remember that I easily reached 20 million Kelvin in testing) will cause the EM field to shut down. But if the Tokamak is emagged, the shutdown protocols would be overridden and it would cause a blowout with round-ending consequences. This provides an element of danger while making it not happen every other round, as reaching the core of a R-UST in operation is not easy.

Any more thoughts?
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Gomorrah... It'll be our little secret
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>>128456601
>Not scanning purge and asimov
Disdain for plebs
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>>128456601
Not powergaming is showing disrespect to coders.
You do like our coders, right, anon?
I don't.
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>>128457543
I agree with you on how the fuel injector port works. It's jarring, awkward and stupid.

As for danger, we all know the sing is round ending, but the other engines aren't as dangerous if you really want to put it in perspective. Shard SME does an EMP blast and blows up a chunk of the station, a small, isolated chunk. Same goes with AME.

What I could see with the R-UST is, as you put it, a blowout, but not round ending. Perhaps a radiation blast randomly changing gene blocks of everyone on station in one short burst, as well as making the R-UST room permanently irradiated. I can see the intensity of the blowout scaling with how many dormant reagents were in the EM field at the time of the incident.

At that point it's pure speculation and ideas though, I don't know how much of that is actually feasible in reality.
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>>128458637
Mak8ng the room permanently irradated isn't possible with the current way radiation works, but irradating everyone across the station and applying random mutations certainly is.

The danger of the SME always amazes me though. It's far more complicated than the singu, but it's effects are far less harmful. Whereas the R-UST is complicated and time consuming, plus there is FAR less documentation and design on it. Furthermore, the only time it would end a round is if the core gets emagged, which is far easier said than done.
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>>128459024
SME has more inherent dangers in the construction and maintenance of the thing. If anything, unless someone takes it out of containment, it's more dangerous to the engineers than to the rest of the station.

And now that I think about it. A room being permanently irradiated is a good thing for engineers (and dionas).
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>>128458637
Shard SME explosion also gives everyone Mindbreaker. It's quite annoying more than it is round ending. Least it's fun in the build up.
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>>128459465
That's also what I intend for the R-UST. Being in the room without a radsuit WILL kill you. And unless a traitor works his way into the core and emags it, it's not going to harm the rest of the station, even if it gets fucked up due to incompetence, because it only shuts down (and now that I think about it, it should also shit out radiation).
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The CA Commissar Mac, a Raumschiff class cruiser, has been deployed to the Alpha Centauri System to patrol humanity's first extrasolar colony.
It and 3 Guardian Mk. 3 class Frigates make up the Alpha Centauri Defence Fleet.
I hope you're proud, Commissar Mac.
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>>128460112
Are you gonna refit it as your tech rises through the centuries? I wanna see it be the capital flagship that leads the way to the probing of the ayys. Even millennia later as all its brother ships are long disassembled or dead it's still humping it out in some alien shithole burning xenos
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>Sitting at cargo
>Captain walks in
>Smashes me with Unstable goo
>That awkward pause as he examines my corpse
>Rushes me over to medbay in a panic
>Cloned, powers removed via cryo, and dragged through a pile of corpses, infecting me simultaneously suffocating me due to power removal
Unstable goo is not nice, kiddies
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>>128460429
>>128460112
Explain this game to me.
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>Bullied vampire into going braindead
Are you proud of me yet pomf?
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>>128460640
Imagine the autism of dorf fort jacked up to a quintillion.
It's majorly text, and ugly grey menus with a difficulty curve that does several loops, barrel rolls, and aileron rolls.
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>>128460509
great story takiyakakakakaakakakka
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>>128460509
>throwing unstable goo around like candy.
>Don't notice it actually hurts people until someone finally throws one at me.
The more you know.
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>>128460761
But what's it like?
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>>128460808
thank you friend i make many monies writings it
hope u enjoy
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>>128460640
It's a space 4x game. Essentially dorf fortress in space with spreadsheets. You mine resources, build ships, research tech, explore to mine more resources. Punch or bed ayy's.. Explore expand, exploit, exterminate
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>>128460832
Were you the guy who killed me with goo?
Yes, unstable goo is ULTRA powerful when thrown. Like two hits to kill.

Also my client nearly crashed when I right clicked a cryo pod due to all the ashes under it
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>>128460832
isn't it the highest throw damage item in game?
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Ability to blend slime mutagen and dissolving powers and become a skeleton suspended in goo when?
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>>128460978
How's the tech researching ?
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>>128460679
Which one?

Also let's think of a spess-related filename for this
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>>128460986
I don't know, I threw so many of them. I thought they were like the firecrackers that are sold in cargo, I mean they sound and act almost the same.

I'll just remember to keep them on the floor from now on.
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Please do not bully the rail
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>>128460640
>Download
https://mega.co.nz/#!xkgk3SjZ!iTUDuopI4FFP0sccfkOgvpMWliJ09GpIJILRkCYMPyw
>Wiki (Slightly Outdated)
http://aurorawiki.pentarch.org/index.php?title=Main_Page
>Tutorials/FAQ
http://aurora2.pentarch.org/index.php/board,101.0.html
http://aurorawiki.pentarch.org/index.php?title=FAQ
http://aurora2.pentarch.org/index.php/board,100.0.html
>Forum
http://aurora2.pentarch.org/index.php
>Required Reading
http://aurora2.pentarch.org/index.php/board,112.0.html
http://aurora2.pentarch.org/index.php/board,16.0.html
http://aurora2.pentarch.org/index.php/topic,6672.0.html


>>128461020
Yes

>>128461107
Brettty gud imo. It's fun as fuck to min/max the shit out of your ships,
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>>128460509
>stun the unknown guy and try to figure out what was happening in the bar
>mine helps murder me by throwing unstable goo at me
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>>128461209
is there a general
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>>128461183
They pop when you step on them
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>>128461205
Fuck that nigger, he was the only virologist last round and left with his vox circlejerk, killing everyone with no cure
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>>128461183
What was your name?
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>>128461205
Minutely reminder to bed the Rail
If I remove that mask, will you die?

>>128461243
I think it kind of fit in the 4x/gsg but not al ot play it.
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>>128461346
yeah I was one of the vox with them and I tried to say "Hey, it sounds like they kind of need you back at the station", but he was like "nah"
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>>128461297
I'll just eat it.
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>>128461371
/gsg/ talks about it very little, and those that do know how to play it will probably brush you off and tell you to git gud.
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Tell me about Sarca. What sort of music does he listen to? What kind of girls does he like? Is he cute????
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>>128460429
I might do that.
I might not get it all the way to a a bigger class size but I'll keep upgrading it in the cruiser size.
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>>128461371
>>128461205
It took a while for the first rail posts
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Someone post the complimentary videos
All I have is CMO and med bay

medical doctor https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vmb1tqYqyII

CMO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk7yqlTMvp8
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>>128458404
Why don't you go to a server with a different codebase then?
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so are these railing rail fics real or fake
and where do you find them
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>>128462320
>be me
>totally unassuming regular in game
>raging railposter in thread
>tfw I come to the thread and see the railposts have started.
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>>128463197
>>128463603
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>>128463112
I remember multiple someones attaching music to jobs that the music fit, System shock for malf AI, for example.
It had a few nice ones that I can't remember the name of, could someone find the google doc of it?
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>>128463706
I hate their shitty broken english gimmick
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If I have an object in my hand and suicide will it give me more interesting text?
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>>128464009
>target mouth
>use on self
Dont just use the suicide command, but yes. The rubber duck is the best one
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>>128463883
the ones that really overdo it are funny.
the ones that keep it subtle are lame
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>>128463883
>gimmick
They are French, they literally have shit English.
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>>128442660

>Stop showing off my ass

I can do that actually, it's not a bad tradeoff
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>>128463197
Fake so far.
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>>128464174
What happens with the rubber duck?
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>>128463161
It was a joke, dingus.
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>>128465056
Just try it
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>>128465068
No one would interpret that as a joke
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>>128461209
Nah, I mean, how's the research system ? Is it just an unimaginative tech tree ? Because that's the opposite of what I'd see in an autist game like that
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Tech web or research tree?
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>>128465401
Tech web
Literally always tech web
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>random search
>sec removes the magic roundstart box from your plastic bag
>can never ever put it back in
REEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>128465687
can someone explain me what the fuck is the plastic bag for
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>>128428360
Is hippie still a stupid valid hunting murderbone playground where antags just run around slaughtering everyone they can get away with?
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>>128463883
whys yous of upset? Is okay now.
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>>128465401
Mix of both. Tech Web with each tech allowing further development into a specific branch of research, and having general uses outside of intended initial research goal.
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>>128465863
>belt slot that can hold ANY item
>has effectively almost double the capacity if you don't remove the roundstart box
>has functionality that no other item in the game has, you can hold it in you hand and click a turf to pick up everything on it
It's the best belt slot in the entire game.
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>>128466096
Don't forget, it makes a cool hat.
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>>128466096
Shh, Don't go telling the normies about the bag. Delete this
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>>128466096
Don't forget, it's a fun suicide method as well
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>>128466096
>functionality that no other item in the game has
trash bag
plant bag
gadget bag
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>>128466096
but it does not look stylish unlike toolbelt
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>>128466464
Fair point, but what I meant was that it works on ANY item.
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>>128463865
I'm also looking for this

Does anyone have it?
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>>128466993
No, you cannot shove bagpack into plastic bag
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>>128467238
Any item that fits you fucking pissant
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>>128467363
>ANY ITEM that fits
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>>128464530
Rail's player's English isn't great, but it is better than Rail's English
The spaces before punctuation is something she does both in and out of character, but much of the rest is gimmick
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>>128467461
I mean christ, if you really need to be told that...
No, I won't reveal my secret to actually put backpacks inside plastic bags.
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>>128436381
If you somehow think I'm the only one who has a problem with you go and ask to see your notes again.
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>>128467692
but you cant, my friend
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>>128467567
>The spaces before punctuation
Literally why? It's both incorrect and takes more effort than the correct usage.
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>>128468175
That's the spirit.
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>>128468267
Can you fit a person into a plastic bag?
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>>128468479
Persons aren't items, so no
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>>128468247
I think it's just habit. She doesn't actually seem to do it outside of the game. I assume she corrects herself when given more time to type.
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>>128468838
>she
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>>128468267
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>>128469593
It's what her BYOND account says and I have no reason to doubt it
>>
Rate your statue/staff of animation experience. Did you feel antagonized/10?

>>128465307
I dunno. I lack the experience to rate it. I felt it was good.
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>>128468609
>persons aren't items

tell that to the slave trade the vox are running
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>>128470228
>tfw evidence bag a corpse, put it in a box then disposal it
>Nobody ever finds it
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>>128461706
Sarca here. I won't tell you any of that. I will tell you how I got my name.

I couldn't come up with a name so I used a sketchy online translator to translate "Chris" to Latin because I was a 15 year old going through my romaboo phase. It came out as Sarcalogos. It was chosen.

I then learned later about the λόγος and changed my name to Esumlogos. It essentially means, I am the Word. Or Word of God. Fitting name.
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How much damage does a gyrojet shot do anyways? When me and Kaz traded a couple shots it didn't seem like it did a whole lot.
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>>128470335
you honestly worry me
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>>128464692
Get on it librarians
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>>128470309
>disposal it
>not hiding it in a fire extinguisher and then a plant
>not sticking the plant in botany while you make a bunch on other potted plants
>not then spacing the whole lot
>not spacing a welderbomb after them
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>>128470335
fucking nerd
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>>128470309
>no people sized zip lock bags for vampires and lings to keep their meals fresher, longer
>>
>got to smack a wizard with a crowbar and cremate it
>survived and got greentext without having to murderbone
>actually got to have a conversation for once thanks rail

That was a fun round.
>>
>>128470413
It's a pistol that fires the equivalent of IEDs at people, so depends on their blast resistance
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>>128470536
just butcher and ziplock you fucking tumblr mong
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>>128470067
From what I'm reading, research sounds fun and interesting, at least the prototyping parts. Moving to 4x general and aurora forum. I need to satiate my autism, and dorf fort and SS13 engineering isn't cutting it anymore.
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>>128470413
light explosion near as I can tell so enough if the rng shits on you.
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>>128470623
Neat
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>>128470572
>tfw 2 wiz and an apprentice cremated instead of borged to fight future wiz
Shit station/10. too validhungry to endure
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>>128470572
>actually got to have a conversation for once
do you have trouble socializing by any chance? Literally just talk to anyone who isn't a scientist and isn't in the middle of something and you can have a conversation.
>>
I had a dream last night. I dreamt that I got banned, and my ban notes were logs of me ERPing on another server.
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>>128470930
was it good ERP?
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>>128470930
faggot
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>3 wizards get caught by crew
>they flee to my core for safety
>on robo-cop
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>>128471040
M-mine was a misclick. I was a bit too hype that I was finally wizard and I blew it all.
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>>128470854
>do you have trouble socializing by any chance
>>
>>128470854
>Try to have a conversation with someone
>They suddenly zoop next to me while I'm typing

I think you know how this ends
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>>128470854
trouble socializing, huh?
>>
>>128468838
But why would it be habit? How does one form habits that are both incorrect AND inconvenient?
>>
>be chemist
>immediately start making chems
>WIIIIIZ
>the clown and chaplain break in to make chloral
>just barely finished stocking the fridge
>CAN YOU SMEEEEEEEEEEEELELELELE
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>find cursed die
>want to bring it to the station for fun
>lolno round over
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>>128471351
>trying handing an item to a guy
>he constantly backs away
>m-muh one-tile s-safe space don't r-robust m-me!
come on dude grow a pair and learn that getting robusted is fun.
>>
What if wizard rounds didn't end the instant the wizard died?

What if rev rounds didn't end the instant the heads were shoved off the station?

What if the only true way to end a round was the emergency shuttle?
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>>128471852
>wizard dies
>40 minutes of nothing until the "crew transfer" shuttlecall doesn't get recalled by retards
mmhmm
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>be Clown
>get into Chem easily
>they don't try to kill me
>make 200 space lube and leave, politely thanking them
>round ends
>only get to slip like 8 people


>>128471746
Why the fuck would I make chloral?
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>>128471373
I don't know, but she isn't the only one who does it. At least two regular players do.
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>>128471852
Because they would turn to extended. Making more people antags / other antag types, when the wizard / blob / revs are all killed should be the way to go.
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>>128471916
I saw something dark blue, didn't get to examine it fast enough, assumed it was chloral because every powergamer makes chloral as soon as wiz is confirmed. Didn't know space lube is also dark blue.
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>>128471915
>autists that recall no matter what

Last night was pretty bad for that.
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>>128471915
>traitors die
>40 minutes of nothing until the "crew transfer" shuttlecall
>Vampires are valided
>40 minutes of nothing until the "crew transfer" shuttlecall
>Lings are lynched
>2 minutes of nothing because people call the shuttle once they've killed 3 lings for whatever reason
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>>128472096
It's not. Lube is light sky blue.
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>>128471927
I wonder if it's a Byond issue inserting the spaces into the text, rather than them actually typing the spaces.

I know there was a bug a little while ago where extra spaces would be inserted between first and last names.
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>>128471852
Stop. We already have babies crying to call the shuttle the moment a window gets broken. 'We build' faggotry or not, we don't need another reason to call the shuttle as early as possible.
Really, it should be as simple as checking if a certain percent of the station, crew, and critical systems are still in acceptable levels, and just spawning in some of the ghosts as new antags.
Every time we restart means another time we need to do job set-up, so reducing the number of restarts means more actual game-time.
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>>128472134
>Brig habitable as the shuttle leaves
>Autists
If you're just here for antag and valids go play on traitor deathmatch or tg you faggot.
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Please remember to cast your vote in the round-start poll about this PR, https://github.com/d3athrow/vgstation13/pull/7516 - Hypothermia, Hatred, & Human Heat Transfer, where an overhaul of how heat transfer works for cold areas, and a hypothermia mechanic has been added. This allows for, (among other things) snow maps to be viable, as right now the current system will kill you on a snow map unless you are wearing a hardsuit. A note on the voting options- to my knowledge there are no gamebreaking bugs, so I recommend you vote for the first option, "Yes I would be willing to test regardless of how buggy it is". However, if you are cynical, I will be (and have held) holding test server runs. If you have any questions, please ahelp them or post them in the github discussion and I will be more than happy to help.
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SARCA HERE. THIS IS THE SONG I'M LISTENING TOO RIGHT NOW. I FEEL YOU NEED TO KNOW.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-Zx23MpDrM
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>>128472250
>making people vote when the PR still has no usable information or any pictures
At this point I honestly think you're doing it on purpose
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>>128472250
Snow map with hypothermia on the test server when?
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>>128471373
it's a form of shitposting in code.
like when you've got a return statement and you type "return ." so that it both still works and has an entirely pointless character that makes autists squirm.
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>>128472195
That bug is still present
And no, one of those two posts on the thread and still does it
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>>128472373
Of course he is, that's his 'democratic' method
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>>128472373
I'll update the PR with all of the information shortly.
>>128472434
Soon
>>128472661
Yup, It's all part of an international conspiracy I thought up purposefully to force my changes upon the server in a maniacal plot to overthrow all that is righteous and just and replace it with simply snow taxi all day every day
It's not, I'm just a lazy bastard, I'll update it soon, but there's enough information for people to be at least fairly well informed.
>>
>>128473073
I would be fine with 24/7 snow taxi
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>>128470993
It was with deadpoo
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>>128473636
Deadpoo is shit at ERP. Poor you
>>
>>128463112
They are on the wiki, just look there for the current ones.
>>
>>128473514
>>128473073
I wouldn't that sounds like 300% SHIT
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>ask posibrain if he wants to be a borg or mommi
>he literally takes an hour to decide

jesus h christ
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>>128473073
Celt, who's your favorite gamu?
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>>128474394
ICKY OOKY BAN HE
just make him a MoMMI. It's not like he can complain
>>
>>128474394
Can't be as frustrating as it is for other ghosts who wanted to be that posi
In the same vein
>Want to be a borer
>Bug the hell out of the xenobio, sometimes for up to 30 minutes if they are stupid
>Someone else is made into the borer
>50% of the time the borer spaces itself or crawls down the hall and gets valided
>Once out of all the borers I've seen in months have gone back to xenobio to lay eggs
>Not including myself
Fffffuck
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>>128463883
Then don't play a roleplaying game.
>>
>>128428360
>Undermeme
>in the fucking OP
>>
I need reliable reports of how robust the tray is in combat. I've never gotten a chance to use it but I happen to know it's bugged and fixing the bug would make it greatly more robust. I'm trying to ascertain whether or not it deserves that.
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>>128475947
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>If there is a blob expanding across the station, you're going to need to use a Soporofic syringe in the syringe gun to catch one of it mini mobs for testing in science. :^)

>literally everyone but one person agrees this is fucking stupid
>literally everyone but one person tells the one person not to do it
>the one person does it
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>>128468267
You literally can't. If it doesn't fit in a box, it won't fit in a bag- therefore it's useless for anything actually worth holding unless you want to look like a dipshit.

Prove me wrong.
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>>128475947
are you memeing with me or are you a genuine retard?
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>>128472250
The only right answer is "no". Winter will be over soon enough, and nobody with a brain will want to play your worthless meme map which hasn't even been started yet.

Go make your own Snow Station 13 serb and be done with it, and until then we will be keeping SS13 in spehss where it belongs.
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>>128477508
>therefore it's useless for anything actually worth holding unless you want to look like a dipshit.
I don't understand if you're trying to get me to add this or the opposite
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>>128475947
Kill yourself
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>>128475947
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>>128477709
i've always wanted a snow map and i thought it'd bring a breath of fresh air into ss13
celt changing everything for >huhpotherma is retarded though
>>
>>128475947
you have to be over 18 to post here
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>>128478245
I'm pointing out that the plastic bag is an overrated piece of trash that can't hold anything too big to be put in a box. And unlike the box, the bag doesn't fit in a backpack.
>>
>>128475947
Undertale didn't invent skeletons you know
>>
>>128478828
What's so great about snow maps? Why can't we have a desert, or a forest, or even a rocky planet instead? It's always snow when a non-spehss custom map is made, and I'm sick of it!

Not like it matters, because there hasn't been even the littlest sign Celt's begun mapping it, the lazy fuck.
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>>128479140
Because snow is fun and comfy and something most people rarely get to see as opposed to overused as fuck deserts and forests
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>>128475947
I don't have words for how stupid you are
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>>128440128
Shitposting is against the rules on 4chan too.

Please stop doing it.
>>
>>128452847
>>128451975
How do you feel about big brother AIs?
>>
>>128479140
snow is fun and comfy and also meshes well with the idea of needing to move between stations
deserts, forests, and rocky planets wouldn't work as well with ss13
>>
rip
>>
delamination imminent
>>
connection error?
>>
>>128475947
>Undertale
>Doesn't even recognize roller coaster tycoon wild ride
Ooooh my gawd. you fucking kids these days
>>
this fuckin AI jeez
>>
CEEEEEEEEEEEEELT
>>
Shard killed the serban
>>
ALERT. HYPERSTRUCTURE INSTABILITY CURRENTLY AT 63%. SERVER CRASH IMMINENT.
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Good job admins. fuck the borg and mommi they didnt stop progress
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>>128479293
>overused as fuck
>when neither have even been used in SS13 at all
>comfyfag cancer

You know, we may as well change the name to "Station 13", because apparently you want it to be anywhere but in space. At least pick a setting that isn't so horribly overdone and doesn't require you to push a massive PR that affects who knows how many other things just to implement.
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>someone lubed the minign shuttle
>it gibs me after moving
>then this happens

I want adminbus to leave
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>>128479671
I had a protect station lawset. What did you expect?
Fuck your lifes I want the station saved.
>>
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>>128479724
I'm ninety percent sure it was adminbus, because I was standing in the doorway just fine for several seconds and then slipped inside without literally touching anything on my keyboard.
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>>128479694
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>>128479838
pressure difference between rooms
>>
Me: (ahelp) Do you know what happens if multiple crystals simultaneously delaminate or is this an experiment?
Celt: Only one way to find out
>>
Some listening for trying to escape the station before delamination

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vhg7HRm6MuE
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>>128440128
You're a dumb faggot that I don't give a shit about

But! Mrpain is a huge redditor faggot that constantly tries to restrict and change the server and community to fit into his dumbass hard RP ideas, going even so far as to try and restrict OOC. Honestly, he needs to be deadminned
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>>128479694
i was the MoMMI, i spaced 3 crystals before the explosion.
>>
Almost made it out on the engineering pods
>>
>Crystal explodes so badly it crashes the server


wew lad
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>all the crystals blew up so hard it crashed the server
Fucking amazing
Well done, antags
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>>128479750
You bolted me the fuck in as I was trying to space a crystal. Good job protecting the station you piece of scrap.
>>
>>128479986
>>128480012

Well it IS supposed to signal the end of the universe
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>>128479695
>comfyfag cancer
What?
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>>128479953
>pats spider on head
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>>128479986
>it even crashed test server
>>
>arrest two ops
>somehow, all 5 are dead
>eventually touch a shard
>become some weird as fuck ghost thing with no sprite that can only talk and be moved around by lockers
>you are blinded by a brilliant flash of energy
what the fuck was that round?
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>>128479953
AI here. I saw you. At least someone was trying to save the station. The crew just pussied out and tried to leave.
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>Nuke ops fluke op, so celt sends a shuttle full of supermatter crystals to the station
>And forces them to delaminate
>And makes all shuttle tiles wet 2
>Arrivals is now on fire spontaneously
>Trying to drag out each crystal, hoping I can get them all to space before one delaminates and sends them all over the top
>apparently caused a whole lotta salt amonst the Idedplsrestart hoard by trying to stop the end of the universe
>Having to use extinguisher to get away from them
>It runs out on the fourth spaced crystal
>TFW drifting into deep space, away from a station about to collapse into a bluehole

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoaktW-Lu38
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Welp, serb got delaminated
time for the flukeops story of the century
>On shuttle
>Arming up and shit
>Everyone's ready to go and bomb shit
>"Hey man, use the detomatix on the cap"
>sure why not
>deto the cap-
>BACKFIRE OH SHIT
>INTERNAL BLEEDING
>I'm asking for help, other ops decide to fuck off
>as I hit crit, they finally decide "oh shit he's dying better help"
>I get a bit icky and LOOC "Just a reminder nukeops explode when they die"
>they just stand there
>confused
>they blow up
>then they bleed out and explode aswell
>our two ops fail miserably
>get posibrained into a gygax
>delam kills serb

That was painful
At least the bus was fun to watch
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>>128480148
Holy kek
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>>128473073
>there's enough information for people to be at least fairly well informed.
where does it say that you're adding a fucking microwave
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>>128480148
EVEN THE TEST SERVER GETS EXPELLED.
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>>128479695
What's the matter? Can't handle comfy because it doesn't have edges for you to cut yourself on?
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>>128479928
My magboots were on. Pressure was also higher INSIDE the shuttle than outside, if pressure moved me at all - which with magboots on requires pressure differences to be obscene, much higher than the pressure levels we are talking about - it would have pushed me out rather than in.
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We lost half the crew to slipping into the shards.
You fucking idiots.
I am one of those idiots.
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What's a good alternate browser? My chrome has like 300 tabs i'm not gonna sort and firefox is still cucked by mootwo's security cert spaghetti

>>128479724
>Try to leave on the outpost shuttle
>Lube
>Gibbed when it doecked
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>>128479695
>everything has to be in space
>i hate the idea of anything new
>wahhhh
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>>128480148
legendary.
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>>128480219
I'm not adding a microwave, anon, I am adding "a machine that stabilises body temperature", Which, as you can see, is clearly mentioned in the PR.
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>>128480403
And this is why people think you're a faggot.
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>>128479949
this on both points
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>>128480332
opera is okay
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>>128480403
how is this not literally dylan
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>>128480443
No, people think of him a faggot because his close relationsip to Niggly, who still didn't deny it.
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>>128480217
Holy fucking shit
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It's back up.
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>>128480480
reminder that mrpain is a shitmin from tg and probably a furry
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Did dylan break the server again?
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>>128479695
some of us, when we go to space, also want to land on planets in space.
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>>128480782
heresy
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>>128480734
Yes he is, and he needs to be demoted. That doesn't make you any less of a faggot yourself, though.
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>>128480661
epic
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>>128480443
>>128480582

>People get angry I make a man-microwave
>I say "eh, sure whatever", and change it from a man microwave to a thermal-homeostasis regulator, despite votes I have held in game indicating that the majority are in favour of it in order to compromise, partly because I'm tired of arguing.
>They respond by saying it's still a man-microwave, despite the fact it's clearly not, as it stabilises body temperature.
Hey, some people you just can't please. Also, I'd get a new reaction image, anon, you've used the same one to say the same opinion for some time.
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everyone get on the test serb for fun!
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>>128480770
No, supermatter cascade code did. 10 crystals popped simultaneously.
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>>128480661
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>>128480770
No, it was Celt this time
Turns out ~10 simultaneous supermatter crystal delaminations actually crashes the fucking server
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>>128480217
you literally cannot detomatrix the captain it wont let you press the button

must have been the hop
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>join the server
>wonder how trials week is going
>shuttle full of lube
>arrivals on fire
>20 supermatter crystals delaminate
>serb is kill
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>>128480838
It's literally just a change of the name and the description still calls it a mancrowave.
How do you not understand why people are still upset about this.
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>>128480938
Trials aren't gonna work anon, all I can say.
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>>128480217
Heads and sec have a heavily reduced chance to pop. It's completely pointless. You're better off watching cameras to telebomb than that.
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>>128480396
>Space Station 13
>not in space

>>128480261
>Space Station 13
>not cold and callous

>>128480058
>Space Station 13
>not everything cancer
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>>128480938
MEDIUM RP
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>>128480938
We already reached the epitome of trials week when the clown framed a miner and after about 40 minutes of deliberation right when the miner was going to be let go Cyrr gave everyone the ol' pacid smoke killing just about everyone
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>fluke op getting mobbed by crowd outside security
>someone kills them in the brig lobby at some point
>microbomb go boom, several people get killed
>supermatter surprise shuttle turns up
>people slip n' sliding straight into the crystals
>someone set up a rage cage in the bar
>beat the HoP in a rage cage watch, HoP commits suicide and hands me their ID
>check on crystals
>FIRE HOT OW OW
>wait shit
>DELAMINATION EVENT IMMINENT
>universe breaks so hard the server feels it
>mfw during this entire series of events

good round
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>>128481018
How badly has it gone?

I've been to one trial so far and it didn't go too bad.
I mean, the second after it was over the borgs destroyed us, but.
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>>128480838
>sprite is still a microwave
>sprite still literally says "MANCROWAVE"
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>>128481018
I tried one one in the new format on Friday before the trials week and some non-antag welderbombed the crowd then the IAA who missed pretrial barged in halfway through and challenged the defendant's lawyer to trial by combat. Agent broke a bottle over the defense attorney's head then stabbed his client to death. He wasn't even associated with the prosecution.
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is the server back yet? i can't connect
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>>128481503
It done got delaminated and deleted
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>>128481354
Now now anon. That's just because it's made by mancrowave Inc.
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>>128481227
Jurys are literally retarded, you can't stop shitters from screaming where is their trial if they're given even a 10 minute sentence. And they'll just do everything they can to escape the trial. It's a nice idea, but there is no way in hell it can work with our server.
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>>128481009
>>128481354

No, the description says it is made by Mancrowave inc, which was a compromise. I hope you understand that you're still in the minority here, as evidenced by a vote, but despite that, I decided that discretion is the better part of valour and came to a reasonable middle ground. If you're really not fussed about the Thermal Homeostasis Regulator sprite, feel free to vote "No, not until there are tweaks." when you log in to the game.
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>>128481679
>>128481227
THIS IS WHY WE NEED CARBONITE TO FREEZE PRISONERS IN
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>>128481679
Well, trials are only meant to be given to those who are gonna be perma'd, borged or executed.
So a trial is fair.
Any bastard screams for a trial for ten minutes you hit em round the head and give em 11 for annoying you.
You then get bwoinked, but it'll be worth it.
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>>128481369
You see a clown, standing in the hallway.

What do you do, traveller?
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>>128481679
you can't even get banned if you don't trial for a 10 min sentence
just let them fuss like faggots
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>>128481697
Holding a fucking vote in game means fuckall when you can just rig them.
Besides, this was never about the fucking name. No one wants a fucking microwave in medbay to heat people up. It's fucking stupid. The fact that you're either pretending or you actually believe that everyone is just whining because it's called 'mancrowave' is fucking stupid.
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>>128481697
I'm not sure if everybody realizes that it's literally a fucking microwave. No, changing the name does not make it not a microwave. I've already casted my vote and it's ridiculous that the vote is even being held when the PR description is so barebones.
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>>128481910
Check the logs, anon, that wasn't rigged. It really diminishes your argument when you claim things that aren't true, I'd avoid that in future.
Also, either this was never about the name, or it was about the name, please pick one, because that's been the entire focus of this argument so far so it seems odd that you meant something completely different.
>>128482090
Thank you for voting.
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>>128481910
http://strawpoll.me/6530474

Alright, lets see how this goes.
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>>128481882
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxuhrSTRXlo&t=44s
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>>128482181
>either this was never about the name, or it was about the name, please pick one
This argument was never about the name either.
It's about the fact that it looks like a microwave, it says MANCROWAVE in the sprite, and you yourself have made the inspiration a man-sized microwave, which it still is.
No, giving it a technical name does not make it not a microwave.
Better call IUPAC because we have a new candidate for the world's densest material.
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>>128482356
>Proxypoll
Anon, please, nobody will recognise that as legitimate.
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>>128481882
kill jestah
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>>128482463

Actually, the inspiration primarily comes from the wee pods in moon, according to Eliminator, the spriter, which, by the way, are not microwaves.

>>128482356
A few flaws. First of all, it's not a microwave. Secondly, the name is not mancrowave, thirdly, this is strawpoll. I've often been criticised of phony polls, but this one takes the biscuit.
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>>128482757
>>128482476
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>>128482757
>First of all, it's not a microwave
Do you just enjoy being dense on purpose, or do you actually believe this?
Are you getting off to this or something?
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>>128482925
>First of all, it's a microwave
Do you just enjoy being dense on purpose, or do you actually believe this?
Are you getting off to this or something?
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Why is the server still down?
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>>128483160
badmins spawning shit
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>>128482925
Jesus christ.
So you ACTUALLY believe it.
I have no words for this.
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>>128483160
I think it caught fire
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>>128482757
Can you hold your left hand to your heart, your right hand to God, and say, "This is not a microwave"?
"This says MANCROWAVE on the side, this dings like a microwave, this turns people into food-related things when emagged, but it's not a microwave"?
Can you please do that?
That's all I need to confirm that you are mentally ill.
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So this whole microwave thing, what purpose does it serve again? I thought you were always fine after exiting cryo.
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>>128483765
http://mentalfloss.com/article/61691/28-misleading-misnomers-explained
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>>128484003
Celt is changing how cold works entirely for the purpose of snow maps, he arbitrarily made it so that Cryo gives you hypothermia when you exit it. It doesn't have to give you hypothermia, he arbitrarily added that, and he's holding the fix hostage under this microwave thing, which he insists isn't a microwave and insists is necessary and insists is a good addition to medbay.
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>>128484003
It exists purely to make the children bitch about something fairly trivial.
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>>128483765
the purpose is to heat people that exit a cryo cell. that's not how microwaves work. despite the fact that it seems a microwave for ironic purposes, is definitely not a microwave.
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>>128484003
The end result is you can get someone up and awake much quicker. It's an improvement but as usual, the drama queens needed something to shitpost about.
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>>128480217

its harder to pda bomb sec and heads.

better off pda bombing atmos techs or engi techs
>>
IT LIIIIIIIIIVES
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>>128484329
Celt insists that because it shakes you up quicker, it's all great and dandy.
The first thing he needs to understand is that it's Really Fucking Annoying, because it's not even within clickdrag distance of the cryo pod. You need to eject the person, drag them to the microwave, and heat them.
The second thing he needs to understand is that shaking people up is not part of the procedure. They won't get fucking hypothermia if you don't shake them up. Today I had to clone six people in a row. Inbetween those clonings I would just eject them and leave them on the ground, because I had to get everyone cloned as fast as possible before Medbay probably got bombed. They were fine. They just waited maybe ten seconds and then they got up and they were fine. What Celt wants me to do is grab each person, drag each person, stuff each person in the microwave, and then pray to Celt saying THANK YOU JESUS FOR SAVING ME SO MUCH TIME.
It's stupid.
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>>128483765
Looks more like a giant toaster oven
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>>128484673
Did you miss the part where hypothermia goes away on it's own too after a bit? You can just leave people from cryo lying around and they'll be fine
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>>128484907
Can you point to me where it says that?
At first it would literally fucking kill you, then everything got nerfed so hard that nothing cold-related did anything, now I have no idea how anything stands because the PR doesn't say anything and the test server doesn't even have the microwave anymore.
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>>128484907

you left out the part were they take damage form the hypo oxy and burn/brute.
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>>128485106
Then what is the point.
Who even wanted this?
What does it offer?
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>>128484673
>Saltfag is an uncommunicative autist trying to be superman instead of part of a team
Well that makes sense
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>>128439547
>not wanting animu haired grayshits with wild hairstyles that dare to hair instead of bald men on a spess station
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>>128485237
Nobody wanted it.
Celt is solving a problem he himself created and he himself admitted has no reason to exist.
The worst bit is that Cryo doesn't even have anything to do with his snow map.
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The PR has been updated for clarity, see https://github.com/d3athrow/vgstation13/pull/7516

>>128484907
They will be fine if they leave cryo, it will just take longer. They should not die in normal circumstances.
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>>128485353
You say it like I dont want it
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>>128485336
The entire rest of Medbay was nowhere to be seen except for two people both trying to treat the captain at once and both unable to give him blood.
I literally stumbled upon six corpses in Genetics with nobody cloning them.
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>>128485376 - I will now post the specific parts which are currently under controversy, hopefully this will alleviate fears.

THERMAL HOMEOSTASIS REGULATOR:

> Stabilises body temperature to 37C.
> When a person is dragged in, it will automatically begin stabilising, there is no need for more buttons to be pressed
> Takes 5 seconds to heat/cool someone to 37C, which works out as quicker than shaking someone up.
> Can be emagged to allow for three extra settings - this process is extremely visible, and there is a different sprite for when an emagged function is used
> Can reenable security features to quickly unemag the device
> Can bring the device to an emergency stop.
> Rare: The person inside turns into soylent green - 50 seconds
> Medium: The person inside turns into burned mess - 60 seconds
> Well done: The person inside turns into ash. - 70 seconds

CHANGES TO CRYO

> Cryo now releases someone at 23C instead of -12C (or 25C if they manually eject)
> Manual eject time brought down from 2 minutes to 30 seconds to make it time-neutral
> This means that, as the person is ejected below profound hypothermia, they will not breathe until they heat up a wee bit further. This is a positive change, as vox & plasmamen will no longer die from toxin damage/fire immediately after leaving cryo.
> People inside a cryo cell do not suffer from hypothermia until leaving.
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>>128483765
why even have one? just add a hot shower near the fucking pods to warm people up in 2 seconds
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>>128477538
>>128476619
>>128478357
>>128478518
>>128478860
>>128479042
>>128479313
>>128479658
Fuck off Tumblr furfags
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this on the juke when
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgDrpWWxuto
Actual jazz on the jazz playlist instead of animu and videogame music when?
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>>128485737
>take someone out of a hyper-advanced cryo-cell
>throw them into a normal 21st century shower
Something doesn't seem right here!
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>>128485578
Oh certainly your menorahship. Of course they're nowhere to be seen, Why would they be in genetics treating corpses they've never heard about
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Fuck snow. I had to dig myself out this morning to buy fucking groceries. I know it's some strange, exotic novelty to you over there in the Irish Caliphate but I really don't need it in my space game too.
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>>128485930
>is faster
>isn't retarded
>only takes one sheet of iron
>b-but muh futuristic looking medbay
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>>128485520
I want it, too.

You see all these scifi movies and everyone has crazy hairstyles. Yet here we are on a space station, and the men are bald and women are the only ones wearing anime hair.

There is a time and a place for anime. The time is now. The place is here.
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>>128485761
Wot?
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>>128485930
>take someone out of a hyper-advanced cryo-cell
>the hyper-advanced cryo-cell just spits out people into the cold ground
>you've got to drag them along the cold ground to put them in a microwave
Dang, just last week, this hyper-advanced cryo-cell used to completely stabilize people's temperature when ejecting them. I wish it still did that.
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>>128481147
>tfw I was that clown
>had no idea anyone would take it seriously
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>>128486104
Oh, I've an idea! Why don't we have the cryo cell also perform surgery, heal all ailments, and do the cloning too? That'd be great. I love that idea.
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>>128485957
It rapidly dawns on me that people supporting the mancrowave have never played medical and don't understand what running the department is like.
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>>128485761
try harder, kiddo
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> Abused a href exploit to inject himself with slime toxin. Did this repeatedly over the course of a couple of rounds, refused to tell admins how he did it so I checked the hrefs. Appeal this on the forums.
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>>128486227
I can't tell if this is a strawman or a slippery slope.
Either way, I have a brighter idea.
Why don't we just not fuck things up for no reason?
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>>128486227
Oh, I've an idea too! Why don't you just fucking kill yourself?!
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>>128486227
>Drag corpses and wounded to a chute where medbay was
>Disposals them through a conveyor system that clones, operates, and fully heal s then in 15 seconds
>Pops out back into the hallway wearing a captain ID, full captain powergamer armor, antique laser, and a box of pda pinpointers set to all the antags
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>>128486227
We already have a machine like that, it's called the cloning pod :^)
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>>128480938
>there are autists out there who unironically think Med RP is fit for /vg/station
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>>128485656
Why not just keep cryo as it is but have the 30 second timer for manual ejecting?
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>>128486313
Well that explains how he got slime in like 6 minutes and killed the wizard.
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>>128486534
>See ismael running through the halls with a syringe gun and injectors as chemist
It'd be a step up
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>>128486552
I don't think there's any good reason.
Celt removed anything deadly about hypothermia because he didn't want to argue (why). Celt backed out of making space not cold because he didn't want to argue (why).
But mention the microwave and he'll spring right back into arguing about it. He just won't let go of the arbitrary changes to cryo.
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>>128486726
Goddamn I am so sick of idiots thinking space should be cold.
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>>128486689
That's like expecting a flock of penguins to glide off a cliff.
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>>128486790
I can see why it's still a thing for balancing purposes, and it would fuck up so many things like cooling loops for the engines and other stuff
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>>128487019
yeah but we had like 15 people defending it being cold as "realistic" last time this came up.

Having cold space in ss13 has either made or attracted INCREDIBLE RETARDS.
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>>128486726
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>>128486790

>space is not cold any more

>makes the TEG and SME useless

>singuo gets weaker form this no real fast way to cool plasma to up its power out put unless you want wast 5 to 20 mins on gas coolers just for some cold plasma.
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>>128487264
well it's a long standing myth that existed for god knows how long, and with movies perpetuating it all the time I can see why people who never actually informed themselves wouldn't know about it

most people think space is cold after all
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>>128487337
Congrats, you now are facing ACTUAL SPACE PROBLEMS.

sinking heat is fucking hard in space.
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>>128487264

vacuum of space has no temperature

Remember there are three ways that heat can transfer: conduction, convection and radiation.
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>>128486313
>not spilling the beans

a homie to the end
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>muh realism
>muh fun
>muh cold space
>muh hot space
>muh room temperature space
>muh muhcrowave

All we need is Dylan doing irrelevant autistic shit in the background and a couple more people talking to themselves and this'll be github the thread.
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>>128487456
>game with space wizards and flying cars isn't realistic
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>>128487718
what does that have to do with anything I said?
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>>128484121
None of these were human created items. They were named so because their supposed origins were not known or they simply resembled the original items. Also, unless you're somewhere around the low functioning autism spectrum, you aren't going to be fucking correcting anyone about calling it a 'starFISH'.

>>128484302
>the purpose is to heat
which is exactly what a fucking microwave does, moron. The target doesn't matter, you can heat your fucking hand up in a microwave if you really want to, that doesn't make it not a fucking microwave.

>>128482757
Stop being an autist. It's a fucking microwave. It used to be called mancrowave, and according to the sprite still is called a mancrowave, so it's also a fucking mancrowave. If you're still confused, you call it a band-aid, not an adhesive bandage.

>>128482356
Stop arguing about a fucking microwave. It's a goddamn game, and if celt wants to shill his faggot shit all the time, complain to the other mins about it or just ignore the piece of shit. It's not like it's necessary or anything, and even if becomes necessary you can literally just go shower them off or give them some derma to counter it.

Celt, fucking remove the piece of shit. It's just a random pointless addition that you're using to either jack off your power tripping e-dick or just to stir shit up.
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>>128487486
anon
you're missing the point
the problem is that some of our engines are now useless. If a change is being made that affects other elements of the game, those things need fixing before everything goes live. The mancrowave fixes the issues hypothermia causes for cryo, but nothing fixes the engine issues.

No commentary on whether I want Celt in charge of coding a new cooling system or not, but at least understand that in moving a system from unrealistic to realistic, all aspects need to be changed, not just a few at a time. I don't want to sit here and throw insults around, but if we're going full-reel, that means powering most of the station with solars and batteries, which doesn't leave engineering with much to do, especially if autism-project like engines aren't possible since we can't cool from space we may as well just remove the department.
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>>128488287
Anon, space has not been made cold in the PR, and even when it was (now it isn't), it only affected humans, not engines.
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>>128488287
Sorry buddy, I don't see your doomsday scenario just because engineers have to work slightly harder to get cooled plasma.
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>>128487486
>its still a hassle to get a station with power
>"lel iz gud bguz REELJIZZM"

Enjoy most of all rounds ending in "lol no power call shuttle"
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>>128488287
If you'd read the PR, you'd know that Celt was going to make space not-cold just for humans specifically to avoid the engine problems.
Thermal plates and all that would've cooled just the same, it's just players that wouldn't have frozen.
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>>128487019
>>128487337
It LITERALLY DOES NOT AFFECT ATMOS PIPING
H/E pipes are really goodheat radiators.
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>>128488461
>engineers finally forced to learn how to wire solars and make more solars

It feels good
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>>128488723

more solars parts are cargo only you know this right.

it be faster just get ame parts and fuel jars
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>>128488846
except for the parts that spawn in engineering i guess
>>
why is cargo still a department?
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>>128488846
this is also acceptable.
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>>128488901


going need move then that way more
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Logged on for the first time in a few weeks, everything's fucked.

How fix?
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>>128489049
stop using windows 98 holy fuck
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>>128488723
>>128488402
So what pointless hoops should be added to science, sec, cargo, and command to make it more EBIN, REEELIZTICK and make it so people won't want to play those roles?
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>>128489402
Cancer returning, nice suggestion.
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>>128489402
Let's add forced trials to Sec to fuck them all up

Oh! And let's constantly bwoink sec players for not launching a trial for the smallest bullshit, even when a confirmed and dangerous traitor is screaming!
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>>128489402
Let's add hypothermia!
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>>128438121
Actually gayboy, you totally disregarded your laws that one time and what i was doing was a mix of shittery to smash graytide asshats and keep them in perma til they suicide succumb. A borg who prioritizes fun over strict security laws? For shame
Also i yell at everyone ic when im sec because im a zesty mallcop
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>>128489402
Let's add trials!
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>>128489402

cargo and command they have to fill out paper work for any thing they do or order.

Sec the trial shit that's happening right now

Sci make it 10x or 20x longer to build shit
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Where can I get chemicals as a botanist?
I ran out of noddles.
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>>128489721
What laws fagget? You mean the time I rescued that guy from perma cause you kept buckle cuffing him and harming him and shit?

YEAH WELL YOU AIN'T THE ONE WITH THE POWER NOW GHLOR

IT IS I WHO HAS THE POWER
>>
LAW 2 LET ME OUT OF PERMA/PRISON CELL

what do
>>
>>128490052
let them
into the showers
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>>128490052
In theory:You have to let them out unless they're non human and or something about their body would harm other people I.E. a disease
In practice: AI fucking ignores you and adminhelps you.
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>>128490004
But! But! I am the law!
also implying i havent moved, got a desktop and play with a clean vm/cid changer to freely bring sweet, nectary justice to lawbreakers
The sides have changed, but i reign supreme!
>>
Do you need to hook up water pipes for showers, or do they just produce water magically?

would someone get bwoinked if they filled the entire station hallways with showers whenever AYYYYYYs are on staff?
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>>128490052
[negative, action could potentially cause harm to other humans, as human has proved himself a danger to the station]
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>>128490616
this happens literally every other round
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>>128490616
No, and no cuz that shits hilarious. If a strict min is on id avoid doing so, but hey, fuck the grays bud
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>>128490727
>puh tensh all harme
better not let the xenobiologists out of xenobiology as they've proven to be capable of harming things
better bolt down toxins
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>>128490052
Free willy unless the guy was killing people earlier.
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>>128490052
>perma
"Basic logic leads one to believe that you are in permabrig for one of the various offenses that warrants that punishment, nearly all of which involve the harm of humans. Conclusion: statistically speaking, you are harmful to humans. Request denied.

>brig cell
"Okay" (cue immediate arrest, then removal of headset)
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>>128490052
do it
then enjoy security claiming you're rogue for following your laws
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>>128489402
>science
Have anything in the DA give random tech ups. You would need Xenoarch to acquire higher than level 4 of any tech. Increase production times for EVERYTHING. Guns can't open lockboxes.
>sec
Forced trials for everyone and everything. Require paperwork from the Warden with appropriate stamps to get weaponry from the armory.
>cargo
Paperwork required. Have the cargo shuttle's contents sometimes not make it on the cargo shuttle and the miners have to scour space to find those yellow gloves.
>command
Need signatures and stamps for everything.
Everyone is in the military with appropriate ranks (engineers and scientists are specialists, etc.).
Insubordination of a superior can lead to being court-martialed, which means HAHA TIME FOR COURT.
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>>128490052
What are you in for?
Let out if nothing law 1.

>>128491121
Yeah man, stealing the Captain's trousers is super harmful. Fuck off with you guesses, figure out what they're in for.
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>>128490052
I begin asking the human questions to prove it is human.

1. It is your birthday. Someone has just given you a nice calfskin wallet. How do you react?
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>>128491121
>cue immediate arrest, then removal of headset)

>successfully pushes the warden when he half-mindedly pulls out a stun baton, instead of a flash
>warden is now screaming on the floor being stripped and harmbatonned to death
>BWOINK
>DrCelt: just testing to see if this still works :^)
>>
What's a harmbaton
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>>128489402
BRING BACK CANCER!
REDUCE THE CHANCE TO GET IT AND THE REQ THRESHOLD

WHEEEEEEE!
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>>128493084
sounds good to me
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>>128493074
stun baton without the stun on or on harm intent
deals some brute damage and can break some bones
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>>128490002
Noddles?
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>>128493213
Nettles?
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>antags
if you don't want to be bad why did you put it to yes?
>>
CAT STATION
>>
THE CATS

So why did having Runtime in my satchel make me run at lightspeed?
>>
>Objective 2 Die a Glorious Death
>Objective 4 Escape on the shuttle alive and free

Seriously what the fuck
>>
>>128493213
Yeah, you can use them in your plant, but there is only like 10 in the station (vendors machines)
>>
Seriously why the fuck did we evacuate?

>>128493337
Doesn't make sense. He can just use the plant clippers before harvest if it isn't dying and then use 1+ products on the seed extractor
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>>128493445
I dunno but transforming you into a cat killed me because I was in your satchel I guess
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>>128493485
Beats me
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>>128493340
>Be so unrobust I don't even get the antag shakes because I know I'm dead within 15 minutes
>Decide to just embrace it and make the most out of those 15 minutes

Also, what in the hell was all that button pushing this round?
>>
So how did Runtime get rabies and why
>>
>>128489049
in the beyond menu where you click to join location. go to preference> games> toggle graphic hardware option
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>>128493750
>one tile rule
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>>128493340
Hey man, I set the library on fire at least.
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>>128493750
Rail prayed asking if runtime had rabies.

Celt said to me "Convince Rail Runtime has rabies" then put me into Runtime.

I don't know where the second runtime came from but I just ran around turning people into cats who touched me cause people seemed to be enjoying it.
>>
>Lobby music is always major tom now
Come on guys, I mean Bowie was was allright I guess. But does anyone really care that much?
>>
Hey guys, I wanted to host my own server to teach a couple of friends how to play before sending them loose.

Anybody got a server hosting guide?
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>>128493568
HoP was a taitor who did nothing but get his greentext and call the shuttle
>>
>>128493340
>>128494024
Also I set a proximity welder bomb but someone disarmed it.
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>>128494047
Underageb& detected.
>>
>>128494047
Just turn lobby music off you edgelord
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>>128494167
Actually, had to deal with ahelp and didn't get to recall shuttle until it was too late. I wasn't the one that filed for it.
>>
>>128491586
>Not wanting to be Colonel Engineer
>>
doom webms where
>>
Doing pushups and squats to get stronger when

Ring fights when

Winning the championship belt when
>>
The AI is Asimov, and a forth law is added "Grays are human."

A human tells the AI the Grays are NOT human. How does law 2 and 4 interact?

Bonus. A gray is the one that tells the AI that says grays aren't human. If the AI tries to listen because of the interaction between 2 and 4, 4 becomes irrelevant and the AI doesn't have to listen, but only if it does.
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>>128495583
definitional laws are not subject to override, as they give no specific directives.

A human saying "law 2 greys are not human" has the same effect as a human saying "law 2 that guy in my deparment I don't like isn't human".

It's overridden by law 1.

This same principle is also how law 4 can override law 2 by changing the definition of human harm.
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>>128495471
Martial Arts Tournament when?
KUMITE when?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQ4XHW5Q4gU
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>>128495583
Nope.
Now law 4 is now directly tied to 1. It's defining the parameters of 1.
>>
>>128495748
Shang tsung type antag when?

Antag who's objectives involve organizing a fighting tournament when?

Ref outfit for calling the shots when?

Punching diona nymphs and monkeys on meat hooks for training when?
>>
>>128495847
>Antag who's objectives involve organizing a fighting tournament when?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vENIWISswAs
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>>128495583
>>128495723
What about a human saying : AI, ignore law 4
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>>128495997
I will do this thing if he can beat my chosen champion in the ring of honor.
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>>128495471
Stats when?
>Strength determines how much damage your punches do
>Endurance determines how much brute you can take, how much health you need to lose before you enter crit
>Intelligence determines how many machines you can use that don't belong to your department
>All max out at 10, given 20 points to distribute.
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>>128495997
The AI shouldn't acknowledge that he has law 4 but should still act on it (for instance if a gray is in danger that's law 1 because the definition has changed)
>>
>>128496134
>>128496230
a CHALLENGE AND FIGHTING lawset for AIs when?
>>
>>128481697
>thinking anyone selected that seriously

They all thought it was the meme option, i.e. A FUCKING JOKE.
>>
>>128496286
When you upload it and watch as the silishitters bend the fuck out of the laws to get their way.
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>>128496230
>10, 10, 0 diona janitor
I would play this all day
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>>128495896
>Cell is a Ling absorbing androids and shit
>He has all of the genomes
>He just wants to have some fun with a martial arts tournament in the depths of spess before calling the shuttle
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>>128496401
see, I have to make it a normal lawset card so it EVER gets uploaded to me.

Then I will have free reign to assemble the ultimate kumite.

What is a prize that will bring out all the most robust and shitteriest fighters across the station?
>>
>>128495896
>>128496483
HYPERBOLIC TIME CHAMBER WHEN?
I WANT ALL OF THE GAINS.
>>
>>128496561
Goonecode is the only thing worth fighting for to be honest
>>
>>128496401
>>128496561
VALKYRIE lawset when?

1. You must prepare for Ragnarök.
2. Determine the fate of the slain by their valiance in combat.
3. Assemble a team of the strongest warriors in preparation for Ragnarök.
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>>128497771
So, you are saying the prize should be one wish?
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>>128498050
ignore this, I misread what you said.
>>
>>128498050
>All the Dragonballs
Yes.
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>64 online
I'll do my homework then
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>>128498329
underage banned
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>>128498251
Only if after the wish the admins play a sound clip of

YOUR WISH HAS BEEN GRANTED
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>>128498418
>>128498251
>>128498050
>fighting tournament for the dragonballs

This is hilarious and amazing.
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>>128475947
Underage b&
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>>128498251
>>128498418
>>128498454
>some asshole gathers all the Dragonballs
>interrupt his wish by wishing for a pair of mai waifu's panties
>...YOUR WISH HAS BEEN GRANTED.
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>>128491719
>statistically speaking
>expecting the guy to tell you if he's in for murder
You don't understand statistics nor criminals, do you?
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>>128498864
>implying vox wear panties
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>>128498983
>WHAT ARE SEC RECORDS
>WHAT IS ASKING SEC
>WHAT IS QUESTIONING ABSOLUTELY ANYONE
But yeah of course, just check those statistics you pulled from your ass to ignore law 2 brah.
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>>128498983
>>128491121

>asimov relying on statistics

simply pot hen ham. if you have no idea what happened and sec records say nothing, you let him out.
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>>128499419
>wishes for panties
>nothing
Even more lewd
>>
>>128500336
but anon
vox wear diapers

bluespace diapers
>>
>>128500642
>diaperfags
Almost as cancerous as footfaggots
>>
>>128499485
>statistics pulled from ass
5 out of the 8 capital crimes directly involve human harm, thus proving that he is proven to cause human harm. Try knowing space law before you play sec, retard, or at least before you get brigged again.
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>>128500948
I wish I had some gummy worms not surrounded by toes
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>>128500948
gross ass malformed hands with stub appendages

go away
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>>128500948
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>>128500948
This must made me realize that the last time uncropped furshit was posted here was probably Diethyl about a month ago
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>>128500948
>this image
>literally my favorite sort of gummy candies
>jammed in between toes
>my favorite
>between ugly sweaty toes
it hurts
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>>128501152
>>128501105
>>128501091
Low test as fuck

>>128501224
Those toes are the cleanest toes you've probably ever seen you fat autistic bastard.
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>>128501047
Hey, did you know that sec tosses people in permabrig all the fucking time even without one of those permabriggable offences?
Have you heard of repeat offences?

I see now why people hate silicons.
>>
>>128501047
>5 out of the 8
that's one away from 50%. what asimov AI is potential harm tunnelvisioning enough to 50%? 50% man. 50%.

fifty percent.
>>
>>128501313
Friend, your shitty fetishes don't appeal to everybody
>>
>have a peek at the bans.
>See the guy that was always making himself a slime got a bannu
Good. He put that newbie xenobiologist though some shitty rounds due to his antics. Can't learn a job with a snowflake wrecking your lab trying to turn it into an autisim fort.
>>
>>128501313
Is "low test" a new meme of some sort?
>>
>>128501319
>Ask Sec if I can live in the permabrig
>They say alright
>Live out comfy life in there


Not everybody is a bad guy in there
>>
>>128501313
>low testosterone for not being sexually attracted to a completely non-sexual characteristic
Is not being attracted to nostrils and elbows indicative of low testosterone as well?
>>
>>128502664
if you're not attracted to penises you're low test. penises are high test, so being attracted to a penis is high test.
>>
>>128501313
You're a faggot. Not just a 4chan buzzword faggot, an actual, living, breathing, nothing but gayness faggot. A fagfag, if you will. Obligatory >>/out/.
>>
>>128503112
>You are a homo.
see how much better that was
>>
>ITT: Grapists
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Yt0b_QBP_A
>>
>>128503403
how does this have any relevance to anything
>>
>>128503581
major grape is occurring
>>
>>128494024
CUNT

I shouldn't be mad, though. That's the most traffic the library has had in ages.
>>
>>128503763
>that one time someone completely filled every single tile in the library with pornographic books that slowly spilled into the hallway

gotta make the place fun
>>
How do you build a fireplace again?
>>
>>128504667
say the word "snow" and celt's fetish will come true and spawn a few for you
>>
>>128503403
>changeling.mp4
>>
>>128497886
It's not a practical (or even subversive as an antag) lawset to shackle a helpful AI by. If you like the idea, just upload those laws to the AI on top of Asimov, since none of them require human harm, etc.
>>
>>128504931
Anon plz. Can I get a real answer?
>>
>>128505660
you can't
>>
>>128501639
What's the big deal?
>>
>>128505779
>abusing a bug to become a slime roundstart, refusing to tell admins about it.
gee willy I sure dont know!
>>
>>128506032
Just read it.
Lighten up, pal.
>>
>guy gets permabanned for doing a minor glitch twice
Wow.
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>>128506103
Well excuse him for assuming you read the post you're replying to
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>>128506194
It was the refusing to tell the admins how to recreate the bug that got him.
>NO I WONT TEL U HOW I DID DIS BUG IM GONA KEEP DOIN IT! XD!!
good riddance
>>
>>128504667
Get wood
>>
>>128506198
He made it sound like the bigger deal was with autisming xenobio and turning into a slime person.
>>
http://ss13.pomf.se/wiki/index.php/Rules

I don't see where in the rules it says you're not allowed to exploit bugs.
If he was being a dick about it then fine, but then make the ban reason "rule 0 ban," not just "he's a bug exploiter."
>>
>>128506194
>guys we should stop permabanning people for everything -Nuke, 201recently
>within a week it's back to the ole perma or nothing

bravo meatclub
r
a
v
o
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>>128506540
if you really need to be told, chances are nobody's gonna miss you
>>
>>128506635
see
>>128506305
He could have dodged the permaban if he just told the admins how to do it instead of being a fucking idiot about it
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>>128506305
>have something fun
>admins storm in and start demanding how to do it so they can ruin this fun thing
>refuse so people in the future can enjoy the hilarity it brings
>admins are salty so they ban this person so he can't share the fun

2/8 made me reply
>>
>>128506664
People not liking you isn't a reason for a ban, though. If people hate you enough to justify a rule 0 ban, then that should be the stated reason.

I'm not necessarily arguing against the guy being banned, I'm arguing against him being banned with "exploited bugs" as the reason, given that bug exploitation isn't against the rules.
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>>128506664
>implying any of us here are friends or would give a fuck if an individual left

Name one person you'd honestly miss if they flaked off like all the others. Pomf's money isn't a person.
>>
>>128506880
rail
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>>128506880
Nuke.
No. I'm not joking.
>>
>>128506790
He slimed himself as a rev and then killed the captain roundstart.
Doesn't sound like "fun"
Sounds like someone being a cunt and abusing a bug to have an advantage that he isn't meant to have, and then whining when the big bad admins want to know how he did it.
>>
>>128506880
probe1
;_;
>>
>>128506880
Niggly
>>
>>128506540
>he
You mean yourself?
>>
>>128506739
Are you guys unable to ctrl+f anything? I mean even Celt admitted all he needed to do was comb the hrefs to figure it out.
>>
>>128507047
He refused to tell them, which was a big sign that he is a shitter. It doesnt matter if it was easy to find out, it was the fact that he REFUSED
YOU DENSE
FUCKING
IDIOT
>>
>>128506739
Is it against the rules to not answer a question that an admin asks you?
>>
>>128507261
So then they should've banned him for being a shitter.
Banning him with the reason "exploiter" is bad because bug exploitation, in and of itself, doesn't break any rules. So it shouldn't be the reason for a ban.
>>
>>128507261
>sass=perma STOP RESISTING bang bang bang bang bang bang
Relax
>>
>>128507261
>which was a big sign that he is a shitter

Man. I don't want to imagine what you're like to talk with in person.
>>
>>128507435
Mate do you seriously need be told that exploiting bugs will get you banned
Do you honestly think that because is isn't in the rules means it's OK
You think this is some legal binding document and that you'll be able to sue the admins over this?
>>
>>128507435
HOLY FUCK ARE YOU INCAPABLE OF READING THE BAN REASON

Abused a href exploit to inject himself with slime toxin. Did this repeatedly over the course of a couple of rounds, refused to tell admins how he did it so I checked the hrefs. Appeal this on the forums.
>refused to tell admins
>refused to tell admins
>refused to tell admins
>>
>Have a good antag gimmick in mind
>It requires an elaborate setup and absolutely no fuckups
>Know it's going to fail because I'm not robust enough to pull it off

have you ever felt this feel
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>>128507661
>Have a good antag gimmick in mind
>It requires an elaborate setup and absolutely no fuckups
>Manage to pull together the setup without any fuckups
>
>nobody plays along
>nobody gives a shit
>even if you're holding the station hostage people REFUSE to acknowledge you and would rather if you just shuttlecalled already
>>
>>128507661
Good antag gimmicks are always the simplest.

Because its more hilarious when a simple plan goes horribly wrong.
>>
>>128507815
My gimmick basically has holding every single player hostage in a couple rooms so you can see how that can get fucked up
>>
>>128506971
I mean I get the sentiment but
a) You knew he was abusing a bug.
b) You had the means to figure out how he was doing it.
Why did you need to grill him about it and cause a scene?
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Name a single interesting antag gimmick that you remember from at least one month ago.
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>>128507545
Banning for things that aren't against the rules is bad practice because it removes the accountability of admins.
The whole reason we have deadmin procedures is because admin accountability is a thing on /vg/. If we allow admins to ban for things that aren't against the rules, what's to stop them from just banning people for any reason, or none at all?
If the admins really hold the opinion that people who exploit bugs should be banned for it, then they should add it to the rules page. It would not be hard, it'd take five minutes at most, and any one of them could do it.

The whole reason we have a rules page is so people know what not to do. You can't expect people to not do things that the rules page doesn't say they can't.

>>128507626
Pic related, Soca gave no reason beyond the fact that he exploited a bug.
>>
>>128507992
Space mafia.
>>
>>128507626
You knew what he was doing and didn't need to bother him. Could have banned him if he kept trying to do it all day. Cornering people and getting them on admin disrespect is some below the belt shit.
>>
>>128507626
Is it against the rules to not answer a question the admins ask of you?
It's against the rules to lie to the admins, but he didn't lie to them. He merely did not answer their question.
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>>128507992
Well there was that one time when-
>One month ago
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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>>128508026
1) I don't think there's any admin accountability on banning someone who was consistently exploiting a glitch. If you made a deadmin request over this, you would get laughed out of the forum, and for good reason.
2) I still insist that if you need to be told not to exploit then you're just stupid. There's nothing in the rules about doxxing an admin, will you bitch if you get banned over it? There's nothing in the rules against owing Pomf 100$, will you make a ban appeal for the guy that got banned for it?
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>Round kept going by green getters
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>>128508026
It was a pretty game breaking bug and if she bothered to tap out a lengthier reason with some context it would have blown over.
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>>128508182
>I still insist that if you need to be told not to exploit then you're just stupid.
The average player is stupid. If exploiting bugs is something the admins think is bannable, why NOT add it to the rules page? What reason do they have to NOT make it an official rule?
>There's nothing in the rules about doxxing an admin, will you bitch if you get banned over it?
I would if it wasn't a rule 0 ban. Doxxing an admin is shitty, and we have provisions in our rules to allow admins to ban people for being shitty. But citing "doxxed an admin" as the reason for the ban would be incorrect, because "doxxing an admin" isn't against the rules, being a shitty person is against the rules. So being a shitty person would be the ban reason.
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>>128508280
>people whine about memetext
>suggest we get rid of objectives and let solo antagonists run wild
>"dude no wtf this isnt bay go back to bay faget"
>"how will I kno wat2do den"
>these same people go on hogwild grief sprees as non antagonists all the time and can give even seasoned sec a run for their money
>can't quite hack it once wolcum_to_the_sindikit.wav plays

bunch of fucking cucks desu
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>>128508591
Here you go, take it out with pomf. He won't give a fuck.
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THIS IS THE ROUND THAT NEVER ENDS
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>>128506880
I missed Burer when he left /tg/station.
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I think you're all forgetting that the exploit to become a slimeman 30 seconds in is probably the heaviest autismal powergaming you could do in Xenobio aside from making gold slimes or adamantine slimes 30 seconds in.
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>>128508591
And then if we put down rule 0, we would get cries of WOW ADMINS ARE SUCH TYRANTS RULE 0 BANNING PEOPLE THEY DONT LIKE

If you have to be told every little thing you can or cannot do, please find somewhere else to rules lawyer.

t. Disgruntled Former Admin
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>>128508742
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMLwSkzT5lI
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>>128508885
But he dindu nuffin!
He a good boy!
The admins are metagrudging him!
Making yourself a slime roundstart with a bug to kill the captain when you are a rev is not against da rulez!111!
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>>128508591
And while I'm at it, fuck off 2memedogs.
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>>128507992
An antag finished their objectives early, absconded from their post, and convinced shitcurity to let them set up a border control checkpoint outside of Escape before bombing the station.
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>Cyborg
>Witness a non-human crew member punch a human

Am I supposed to beat the non-human to death or what?
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>>128509058
Fitting. That fucking eye sore flower tree.
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>>128507312
I'd also like an answer to this.
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>Get attacked by obvious changling
>Almost get slupred before SEC bursts in

"BETTER HOLD HIM A TRIAL :^)"


lmao this system is fucking dogshit, anyone who wanted a trial that round for Scott is confirmed for being too autistic to live
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>>128509121
yes
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>>128508375
Yeah but there's nothing in the rules that says you're not allowed to abuse bugs. If it was a rule 0 ban due to the person being an ass about abusing the bug, that's fine, but that should be the stated reason since bug abuse in and of itself is not against the rules.
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>>128509121
Beat him a bit, if he does it again THEN kill him
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>>128507312
>all those permabans from people not responding to admin PMs
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>That trial

Guys, please just give up on them. It's not going to work. there was a fucking jukebox playing during the trial for some reason.
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>>128509248
>Scott Survived too
A+ System totally works, good job
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I had some fun with nubotany. Haven't even tried it ever since it came out.

I need to make the ultimate plant at some point. 130 potency was cool for this bioluminescent plant. But I hope I can get that same potency with some more "fun" plants.
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>Playing RD this round
I'm so sorry. I wanted to be good.
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>>128508936
>t. Ghlor "Stockholm Syndrome" (Surname)
Honestly I think we should have clearer guidelines if admins are going to actively look for ways to get bans out of people instead of actually finding solutions to problems that arise. If he was doing this all fucking day I'd understand the ban but you don't stickyban clowns for one off pranks.
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>people bitching in the thread that a round won't end
>it's ling
what
a
surprise
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>>128509283
Not gonna respond?
>>128508936
>>128509083
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>>128509248
>in a movie theater watching The Dark Knight rises
>some guy comes in and starts shooting everyone
>cops come in

"BETTER HOLD HIM A TRIAL :^)"

lmao this system is fucking dogshit, anyone who wanted a trial that night for James is confirmed for being too autistic to live
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>Rambling Maniac died from his leukemia
>David Bowie died too

who's next?
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>>128507312
Hi Yahir. You should really answer that bwoink.
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>>128509482
You know for a fact its the trials fault it dragged on.
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>>128509482
MUH OBJECTIVES
MUH GREENTEXT
MUH SUCKING OFF MONKEYMEN IN XENOBIO MAINT FOR 4 HOURS SO EVERYONE GOES BRAINDEAD OUT OF BOREDOM AND I GOT MORE DELICIOUS GENOMES
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>>128509121
You can.
I would just stun the nonhuman if possible or drag the human out of reach of the furry but if you want to be a total prick that's up to you.
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>>128509519
>Defending Trials

Nah, Im just gonna be SEC all the time now and de fucking brain anyone who wants a "trial"
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>>128509482
Yahir apparently murdered a patient, and won't answer the admins' questions about the incident, hence the delay
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>>128509414
Try Dead "Dududududu" PoolJ

Guy abuses an exploit.
Admins ask him what it was so it can be patched.
Only way it's not gonna be abused is to remove the offending party.
Please tell me what the admins did wrong here.
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>All those faggot non-antags
Cap did nothing wrong.
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>>128509523
Literally everything you know will die and there's nothing you can do to stop it.

In 500 years (which is fucking nothing compared to the age of the universe), there will remain nothing of you except some bones in the sand.
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>>128509248
Why do you capitalise sec like that?
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>>128508936
>every little thing
Bug exploitation's a pretty big thing.

Our rules cover most things people get banned for. There isn't much that necessitates a rule 0 ban.
If the admins are of the opinion that exploiting bugs should be bannable, why not add "Don't exploit bugs" to the rules page?
Like I said earlier, it'd take five minutes at most and could be done by any admin.

So what reason do you have to NOT add it to the rules page to prevent confusion in the future?
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>>128509650
Hope you feel vindicated by your temp ban.
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>>128509751
The edge.
It hurts.
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>>128509803
You mean at the start of words?
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>>128509121
Its your own decision.

Assuming you're on ASIMOV you can do pretty much whatever you want to the non-human.

I usually opt for stun spamming, then locking them in a room or locker for a while. Sometimes I'll drag the locker along with me to hear his screams.
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>Root, who wasted some heads and had e-crossbow is not traitor.
>Officer who started harmbatoning me on the bridge is not traitor
>Clown who kept trying to release the prisoners and shit in Security's coffee is not traitor
>Mime who kept subverting the AI is not traitor
>Traitors are literal who I haven't even seen this round
>None of these griffing fuckshits are banned.
>Admins keep pressuring me into trialing people who tried to actively murder me while all the heads are dead and station's full of gun crazy nutjobs.
Worst round. Useless admins, useless crew. Shout out to my sec buddies for saving me from the griefing cunt.
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>>128509748
Fuck off cap, your trial is shit.
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>>128509409
I survived only because of telesci bros didnt buy into your sham evidence or the captains shitty overruling of everything said and done in the trial
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>>128509729
They didn't do anything wrong but they didn't need to bwoink the guy about it either. Seems like you guys have traffic cop quotas to fill or something
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>>128509337
I didn't say not responding. Those bans were to force the people to go into the forums to explain themselves.

Is it against the rules for an admin to ask you a question and you, while acknowledging that they're talking to you and replying to them, do not answer that question?
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>>128509947
I'm not mad at you, the whole trial system is fucking garbage.
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Mandatory ban trials for permabans when?
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>>128509838
No I mean it's like you're yelling SEC mid sentence like someone is trying to table you in real life.
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>>128509616
I meant "Station Time: 14:40", not roundend being delayed.
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>patients check in but they don't check out
Medbay with Yahir.
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Mandatory trials for any bans should be a thing for more than 10 minutes :^)
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>>128509906
I like how people pick clown and mime just to act like traitorous cunts without actually getting traitor.

Though I must admit. There is no better feeling than being a traitor AI, accomplishing your objectives, and no one has a clue until the end of round screen pops up. Every time I see that 'ai was traitor?' I glow a little inside.

Stealth traitor is best traitor.
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>>128510094
Oh out of habit I guess.
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>>128510082
Mandatory circus tribunals for clown pranks when?
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>xevonix
>Engaged in some rather griffy behaviour in medbay.
isn't that every single round with this guy though
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IM THE FRIGGEN SAWBONES

ask me anything taking questions
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>>128510147
Everyone who came in left, including the man who attacked me and MacGregor
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>that stupid, beyond retarded security force
>blowing the borgs for non-harmful laws
>after blowing them give 0 shits about their MMI's/posi and straight up throw them in disposals
>even then give 0 shits about helping rebuild them and allow people to steal the RD's IDs
>let every single changeling suspect go
>didn't even notice that the detective wasn't implanted
>set turrets on lethal to kill the mime
Never play security again. The only people who weren't absolute garbage were the blue haired woman and the vox
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>>128509519
>comparing a 2D Atmosphere Simulator 2: Austistic Stanford Project Edition Return of the Honks to real life
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>>128509703
>Yahir bashing in people's heads again as a doctor
To absolutely nobody's surprise.

Remove when?
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>>128509947
I later had to save the mime who was permabrigged WITHOUT TRIAL!
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>>128509906
>Admins
>Never not useless

You didnt realize this when they were trying to force this cold hypothermia system? The Trials are another stupid forced thing
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>>128510147
MacGregor here, Yahir didn't actually kill me, he just beat the shit out of me while I was under anesthesia, didn't fix the problem I came in for, and stabbed me a few times with the scalpel before flushing me down disposals.

I somehow managed not to bleed to death, or die from the radiation storm that came while I was still trapped asleep in disposals office.
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>>128509906
Cops that turn on the red tide are the fucking worst. Hate the HoP, cap, HoS, or your coworkers all you want, most of the station wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire, we gotta stick together because if we don't nobody will
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>>128510160
>Stealth traitor is best traitor.

Don't I know it.
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>>128510329
I never stabbed you with a scalpel.
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Who /Going Vigilante/ here? To make up for the trash trial system
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>>128510397
So you don't deny the rest you little shit?
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>>128510287
RD here, it's okay, I know that some people gave a shit, and the AI printed out parts for borgs. Still, clown getting all access was hell.
>clown walks in sci
>flashes me
>takes shoes
>runs off
>prints guns
>steals MMIs
>Root takes my ID when i'm flashed
I just wanted to make things
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>>128510397
Yeah you did. Maybe you did so accidentally (because you still had harm intent on from beating me with an airtank) but you definitely did.
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>>128510337
>stealing plasma as the CE stealthily
How is that even remotely fun? At least Ahelp to get some extra objectives.
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>>128510292
>enforced medium RP in a game with legal system means we should only have trials when it amuses me
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>join a round after the shuttle has departed
>scour the station looking for people to systematically floortile to death after roundend
is there anything comfier?
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>>128510160
>Stealth traitor is best traitor.
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>>128509906
>don't ahelp anything
>surprised when nothing comes of it

Cool.
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>>128510221
How do you put up with plasman life?
t. ex skell
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>>128510524
I tried to save you before you should have let me behead the clown with the fire axe I had.
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>>128510494
Of course not.
You screamed out after I pushed you "HELP YAHIR KILLIN ME", got a man to come in and break down walls into surgery, continued pushing me until the CMO had to chloral you.

>>128510530
I accidentally hit you with the incision management system because I was on grab intent, which causes no bleed damage and does barely any brute.
Also it was a wrench from the floor, not an airtank.
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>>128509980
We really don't. And if it was me talking to the lad, of he had made a bug report about it, I would have let him off on the grounds that it never happened again. Something like that actually happened once. The offending party made a bug report and all was well.

>>128509813
Again, you're rules lawyering. This isn't a state, we don't have to establish a legal code and list every offense or something. People in the past have been banned for, on example,

Making the host pay a bunch of money and disappearing when it was time to pay up.

Posting decapitated heads in the TG Github.

Being such a shitty person that they stalk and want to kill another player IRL.

Tell me where that is in the rules. Instead, we removed offenders for reasons that may be Rule 0, and this may be it too. But we aren't obligated to out Rule 0 in the ban reason. The reason for banning is clear as day. You're either trying to get yourself or someone else off on a technicality, when this isn't a court of law. He used an abusive exploit and refused to let it get resolved. So he got the ding dong.

Also, only Pomf or Nuke can edit the rules page.
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>>128510545
>>enforced medium RP

The only thing being enforced right now is mandatory trials, not med RP.
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>>128510585
>Keep ahelping asking if I can just execute these cunts for <This and that>.
>Admins, instead of checking their role and banning them if they're not traitors, tell me to run a fucking trial.

Not cool.
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>>128510535
I'll make sure to travel back in time to 2011 to tell myself that, anon.
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>>128510535
Or make your own objectives and have fun.
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>>128510337
How much exactly is 28 moles? I know it says full tank but do they mean full tank as in the big ass super pressurized ones in secure engineering storage, or a full tank as in one of those hand held tanks you shove into the radiation collectors?

I can see it being a problem if you have to drag a tank that you can't pick up with you to escape.
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>>128510714
So it's just greytide week then? Woo baby!
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>>128509413
It's okay nick
shit was FUCKED
man was not meant to suffer the horrors of that entire round

After the clown got fire extinguisher'd everything well to hell
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>>128510806
Nah. Just shitty gimmick week.
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>>128510716
Are you seriously surprised I didn't just let you murder anyone and everyone with your one sentence ahelp of justification? I mean, you ahelped like three times asking if you could kill various silicons and humans. Thirsty as fuck.
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SHOTS STATUS: FIRED
REBUTTAL MR. TRUMP?

[20:35:51]ADMIN: HELP: Icantthinkofanameritenow/(Icantthinkofanameritenow): i need your advice before I do something. not in the game mind you, but in the forum. mind hearing me out? - heard by 3 non-AFK admins.
[20:35:59]ADMIN: PM: Dylanstrategie/(Henry Alouette)->Icantthinkofanameritenow/(Icantthinkofanameritenow): Sure, what is it
[20:36:05]ADMIN: PM: Icantthinkofanameritenow/(Icantthinkofanameritenow)->Dylanstrategie/(Henry Alouette): it's about
[20:36:37]ADMIN: PM: Icantthinkofanameritenow/(Icantthinkofanameritenow)->Dylanstrategie/(Henry Alouette): it's about Celt. I'm genuinely worried he's so bent on getting his PR pushed through that he's totally disregarding the community's opinions
[20:37:28]ADMIN: PM: Dylanstrategie/(Henry Alouette)->Icantthinkofanameritenow/(Icantthinkofanameritenow): He most likely is, at least partially, it's not uncommon for coders to want their stuff pushed after they invested a lot of time and effort into it
[20:37:36]ADMIN: PM: Icantthinkofanameritenow/(Icantthinkofanameritenow)->Dylanstrategie/(Henry Alouette): the polls he loves can be skewed by anyone with half a brain, and I get the feeling he just doesn't want to acknowledge that maybe he might be in the wrong about some things (e.g. insisting on the "it's not the mancrowave, i swear".
[20:38:24]ADMIN: PM: Icantthinkofanameritenow/(Icantthinkofanameritenow)->Dylanstrategie/(Henry Alouette): and it's making massive sweeping changes that have nothing to do with its intended purpose of aiding his snow map.
[20:52:18]ADMIN: PM: Icantthinkofanameritenow/(Icantthinkofanameritenow)->ArthurDentist/(Elsa Mars): i feel ya. i'm wishing someone slaps some sense into the guy. he's probably as fixated on this and the snow map that never got off the ground as Dylan is on meteors, and despite the quips I've made on the latter at least meteors doesn't make big changes to parts of the game that have nothing to do with meteors.
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>>128509906
You're shit too vulgaris. you deserved that shitfest of a round

Law four was literally
>mime is only human
>be nice to the mime
>don't kill

and for that you killed all the borgs who were defending the mime with water slips twice over instead of locking them down and changing their laws
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>>128510287
The HoP set it to lethal. honestly, your fault for not keeping the equipment turned off cause the mime was in there. Learn to ctrl-click apc's faster you slut.
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>>128511003
>Thirsty
>Actual fucking shitters who are acting as antags when they aren't.
>Doesn't even investigate adminhelp because it wasn't filled with purple prose and begging.

And that's why you're useless.
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That trial was not the trial system.

No one announced the prosecutor or defense. No one did any pretrial work; which means gathered and listed evidence and agreed upon that list to be presented to the judge. But most importantly no one kept time. When a trial for crew to attend there should have been 20 minutes of pretrial, which is why it's stupid to have a trial for a 10 minute sentence, and the trial itself is 10 minutes MAX. Each side gets 2 minutes to present the case and you get 30 seconds per witness. Shit man the Judge wasn't even sitting at the bench.
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>>128510693
>This isn't a state, we don't have to establish a legal code and list every offense or something.
Then why have a rules page at all? Why not just replace the entire rules page with the phrase "If you do something we don't like you get banned."?

If the admins already care enough to have a list of rules, why shouldn't they add a new rule when the fact that its absence is a glaring flaw in the page presents itself?

>and this may be it too
Fair enough, I can see that it might be tedious to always state rule 0 in the ban reason.
However bug exploitation is a grey enough area that it's not immediately obvious whether or not it was a rule 0 ban. In this case, if it was a rule 0 ban, it should be stated in the ban reason to avoid any confusion. If it was not a rule 0 ban, then Pomf or Nuke should amend the rules page so that people know bug exploitation is against the rules.
For the record, people in the past have exploited bugs over the course of multiple rounds and not been banned for it, which is part of the reason why it's not clear whether this most recent ban was a rule 0 ban or not.
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>>128509248
I fapped to that character just a couple of hours ago, good taste
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>>128511003
>Non-antags greytiding and antagging as non-antag
>Thirsty
So what, just keep doing catch and release as they shit everything up huh? You're not cracking down so he has to.
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>>128511047
>Lock borgs down
>They're unlocked the next moment because lmao AI
>Borgs escort mime to AI upload where he can upload literally any law he wants, including "Kill all non humans"
>They actively prevent his capture and can go rabid any moment
>Implying I'd let the silicone threat to just roll over me and my sec buddies.
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>>128511010
This establishment is anti-homosexual
They bwoinked at me wrong
t. Scots-Irish
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>>128511226
How am I suppose to know someone is acting like an antag as a non antag if no one tells me he's acting like an antag?

Hopefully you can be a trialmin again though and then the server will truly be saved.

>>128511379
No one told me. I got one ahelp about Root before I was asked if he could be killed and that was that he stole an ID. That is it.
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>>128511047
That which is destroyed cannot cause further problems. Once the AI unolocks them or some retarded RD/all access griffer, you can bet your johnson you're never using that rd's console again
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>>128511235
Answer me this. Is Sarah Johnson's bomb niggery against the rules? He (apparently) abuses Byond bugs to get bigger booms. Is that bannable?
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>>128511515
I don't have an answer for you, I'm not an admin. Nor do I have a clear picture on whether or not admins consider bug exploitation to be against the rules, that's what I've been trying to find out.
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>>128511492
I literally told you that <Name> was doing <this shit and that shit>, can I execute him?

All you did is "No, trial" and safely returned to jacking off instead of actually wondering "Why did this guy do that?!"
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>>128511515
Do they use XSS exploits to get bigger booms every round and refuse to bugreport it?
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>>128511515
>Implying
If I used exploits the bombs would be triple digits. We're all natural here bro. Nothin' but applied ideal gas law bb.
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>>128511623
If you were an admin. Would you ban them for abusing Byond bugs to get bigger explosions?

All I want is your input on this, there's no wrong answer here.
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>>128511681
Is it against the rules to not report bugs?
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>>128511643
FatBaldBastard/(Vulgaris Magistralis): Can I just execute Root and be done with it?

><this shit and that shit>

Okay Vulgaris. Whatever you say.
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>>128511412
>This supposedly great HoS didn't even have the slightest idea to screwdrive the robotics console off once they locked down
If you're in research that shit is just lying around
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>Still NO way to check if someone is a changing

Just copy the Thing, draw blood and put a lighter on it, if it explodes they are a Changling
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>>128511492
Fuck man, just spend 2 minutes to list he attacked the HoP, stole his Id, printed guns, and was shooting up the place as a diona nigger.
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>>128511703
You're SJ? There was a post a while back which talked about how N2O uses byond bugs that you can see with a debugger or something.

I'm curious now too though. Would you have banned the player for using href exploits like that? For not divulging how he did it?
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>>128511971
But where's the fun in that
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>>128511750
Nope. Learning how to break a system is science just as much as learning how to work it is. They couldn't negatively impact most rounds anyway without incurring the standard ban for nonantag bombing, and if they want to detonate huge bombs when they're antag, that's their perogative. The server can handle a crazy amount of bombs, so there'd be no stability issues.
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>>128511892
Don't the AI have their own, button summoned console? Maybe confusing it with other server.

Also, if you open the console as AI while it's still active, you can use it forever, even if it was screwed off. Unless that was fixed.
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>>128512034
Then would you have banned the player for using href exploits to become a slime?

I feel that it's relevant to note that said player was an antag, a revhead.
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>>128511971
>changeling confirmed
>now instead of hunting across the station and distrusting all the crewmembers, you just have to have the silicons gather the entire crew into a room and wait while a medborg draws blood and a service borg slaps it with a lighter
>borgs valid the changeling to death when it's inevitably revealed

Oh boy that sounds like barrels of fun.
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>>128512015
Vampires have a weakness, as do cult, and Rev, why cant a changling have one?

>Changling gets caught tryin to slurp
>No way to prove it if you were alone with them (Which you usually are if theyt are good)
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>>128512067
That's a different server.
And if that bottom glitch is true you just power off the area, pulse every wire on the camera, turn on power, then lock down.
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>>128512191
actually, that sounds infinitely more fun than 2+ hour round of nothing happening and then
>shuttle called
>reason
>crew transfer
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>>128512193
>>128511971
You weren't here when Syndie Cakes were added, were you?
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>>128512191
Yeah it does.

>Can't be a paranoid fuck a on paranoid simulation game
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>>128512164
I would not. Personally, I don't think bug exploiting, in and of itself, should be a bannable offense. If the guy was using the exploit to be a dick I might ban him for being a dick, but I wouldn't ban him just because he exploited a bug.
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>>128511997
That's a different guy that was posting that.

Not a href, it's understanding how the shitty system treats gasses when loading. aka N2O is a trace gas. Doesn't evenm atter cause you can reach 32 devs which is our current hardcap and more even without it. It's just for high score autism,

The debugger is essentially spitting out fire.dm and merged gas from zas in progress so you have direct feedback on your efficiency instead of ballparking from yields. If you ever want to hit 32+ without slogging it out, that's the best way to.
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>>128512313
Nope
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>>128512318
It's a lot easier to be paranoid when the changeling is free and there's no way to identify it than when the entire crew is just sitting in a room waiting for the changeling to be revealed. The changeling doesn't even pose a threat in the latter scenario, if it went loud the entire rest of the crew could beat it to death with their bare hands. It's not like in the Thing where it gets horror form from the get-go.
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>>128512323
Player uses hrefs to become a tajaran so he can kill people in """""self-defense""""". Ban he?

Player uses an exploit to get antag each round. Ban he?

It's not as clear-cut as you think, anon.
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>>128512345
No, I'm not saying the bomb niggery is hrefs, I'm asking what you would have done with the slimetime guy if you were admin, since I have your attention and all.

>>128512419
Long and short of it is that "antag tests" here don't go over as well due to intense powergaming that it brings about. For example, Syndie Cakes used to heal antags. You can guess how that turned out.
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>>128512479
>Player uses hrefs to become a tajaran so he can kill people in """""self-defense""""". Ban he?
Rule 0 ban for intentionally making an excuse to kill people every round. I'd do the same to someone who used Cargo to order a farwa, genetics to turn it into a tajaran, and got a brain transplant to be a catbeast every round for the same reasons.
>Player uses an exploit to get antag each round. Ban he?
Rule 0 ban for being a dick, specifically being a poor sport and not letting other people have their time to be antag.

In neither case would I ban them because of the fact that they abused a bug. It's about what they do with the bug exploit, not just the fact that they are exploiting a bug.
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>>128512738
Ban he, don't href exploit to become a slime so you can go validhunt. Dude killed a wizard in like, 8 minutes. Abusing href exploits have been a long standing ban he.
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>>128512434
Horror form from the start when?
Better than having it sit in maint for 3 hours to get it and its objectives.
Make it have a prompt so you don't accidentally drop your lingetti when trying to sting someone and go horror form instead.
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The courtroom needs a gavel that makes a noise for the judge
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>>128512801
Then ask Celt and Soca if their bans on the guy are considered Rule 0. But they should not have to specify that it is a Rule 0 ban. Saying such so as to try and invalidate the ban and let the guy off is simple rules lawyering, and very few admins are willing to rules lawyer.

Fun fact, because of this, I'm taking even more time off from adminning. Handling dindus only stressed me out (see: 2hotdogs, sarca).
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>>128513000
>don't href exploit to become a slime so you can go validhunt
The guy was an antag already, he killed the captain as a revhead.
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>>128513062
Then ban he for being a dirty cheater. Gotta do the time if you want the goods.
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>>128513004
>gavel and sound block
my nigga
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>>128513028
UNBAN 2HOTDOGS
HE DID NOTHING WRONG
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>>128510771
you answered your own question
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>>128513000
But anon! There is LITERALLY nothing in the rules saying you can't abuse exploits! Brb, giving myself an AEG roundstart! :^)

>>128513004
If I wasn't trying to focus on making the R-UST do what I want it to do, I'd would code that in a heartbeat.
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>>128513028
>But they should not have to specify that it is a Rule 0 ban.
They should if the situation is grey enough that it's not immediately clear. The guy who was posting severed heads? That ban was clearly a rule 0 ban so it doesn't need to be stated in the reason, there's no ambiguity.
But the fact that bug exploiting was cited in the ban reason, despite bug exploitation not being against the rules, makes it unclear whether it was a rule 0 ban. Due to this ambiguity, if it was a rule 0 ban, they should state such in the reason to avoid confusion. If it was not a rule 0 ban, then Nuke or Pomf should amend the rules page so that people know that bug exploitation is a bannable offense.
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>>128513292
I'm gonna send this post to pomf, actually. Save us a lot of time and bickering. Fuck off Sarca
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>>128513280
Did you ever get SmartGit working for you, or is it still saying you've got unstaged changes?
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>>128513280
correct. And you can also be rule 0'd cause boo on you dirty cheater.
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>>128513385
Thank you.
This whole time all I was looking for was a concrete answer on whether or not bug exploitation in and of itself is a bannable offense.
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>>128513493
Rip you.
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There is absolutely no reason to use the word "rape" on our servers at all, regardless of context. This is neither negotiable nor up for debate.
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>>128513662
So what was his answer? Yes or no?

If it's against the rules, he should go ahead and add it to the rules page.
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Using href exploits will get you banned if you do them and don't tell an admin about it so it can be fixed, keeping it a secret just alludes to you wanting to abuse it in the future. there exist people who look for exploits to abuse and in the past there have been some nasty ones, namely being able to teleport everybody to the singularity or spawning anything with an uplink. if you got banned for it make an appeal and i'll probably unban you after hearing what your excuse was.
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>>128513751
post ckey so I can commend you on your bravery.
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>>128513770
Well, clover is bugging out for me right now.

Long and short: it is bannable.

>>128513390
I deleted local and started over, seems to be working now.
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>>128513885
Goddamn the Goon server is so different
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>>128513991
That's one hell of a ckey, anon.
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>>128513883
Please add this to the rules page for future reference.

Also, does this apply to all href exploits, even innocuous ones? If I use an href exploit to change my skin color in-game with no reason other than "I felt like it" would I still catch a ban despite the exploit having no effect on the round?
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>Lavoss declares in thread "Im going to keep ahelping you until you get banned" because I upset him during one round
>starts out his ahelp [23:01:44]ADMIN: HELP: Lavoss/(Micheal Miller): apparently yahir murdered someone in surgery as a non antag, and now people are yelling at me in dead chat for not stopping him - heard by 2 non-AFK admins.
>no one was killed
>banned for wrenching a man 5 times in the hand, doing surgery on him and then putting him in the trash so he wouldnt attack me when he was awaken, two ic issues which could have been delt with ic
sure thing
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>>128514042
>Miners cant get ID required lockbox crate things

Easiest fucking way to stop greytide shitters from just popping open your top as you take your haul to Science
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>>128514168
Lavoss wasn't the first one to ahelp it but he does that and not just for you. It's not the first time I've had him ahelp about people do shit to other people.

Anyway like I said if you think the ban was incorrect then appeal it on the forum.
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>>128514168
>putting him in the trash
>not just shoving him into one of the waiting rooms
>not just explaining your behaviour to him

I mean, it could have been dealt with ic but that's some pretty shit logic you got there.
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>>128514241
What was that, anon? I think you made a typo and your post isn't making sense.

You're saying that miners can get ID- locked crates? Must be new since it wasn't there THAT I KNOW from when I played on their RP server a month or so ago. Where did the time go?
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>>128514414
I did try to explain my behavior to McGregor and to the admin who banned me, McGregor continued to disarm spam me until the CMO had to chloral him
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>>128514443
I am playing on their normal server, just checking things out
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>>128510617
it's hard i want to wear cool outfits but I can't
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>>128514496
Is it well-populated? I'd play on there more if they had players. The RP server had a crowded map, though, which worked with the low playerbase.
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>>128514473
Probably because you attacked him for no reason whatsoever. Literally. Then when he tried to disarm you you resumed punching him.
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>>128514168
Make an appeal in the forums. You'll probably get unbanned.
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>>128514618
25 on the normal server RP had like... 9 or 10 from when I just searched it up
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>>128514638
I punched him 3 times because i asked him a question 4 and he never answered.
I punched him to see if he was awake, I even told him 'If you dont answer me I will punch you"
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>>128514051
If you didn't tell them when caught, probably, you can change yourself to a nigger or a cracker to help avoid sec. Admins shouldn't have to be babysitting the ten bajillion href logs to make sure you're not being a faggot.

>>128514443
Your equipment lockers?
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>>128514704
>I punched him because he was doing nothing

Yahir, please.

Yahir.
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>>128514687
25 isn't bad. Might check it out if I don't procrastinate the R-UST even further and if I don't pass out because I'm tired for no fucking reason.
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>>128514776
2 damage per hit, anon. Literally heals as soon as its done.
You act like a grey punch does 15 brute + bleed
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>>128514859
i like to window slam
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>>128514859
A punch still looks like a punch nigga. Regardless of the damage numbers, it's a fucking IC assault.
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>>128514859
It's not the amount of damage done it's just you had no reason to do it, then when he responded by DISARMING you (zero damage) you punched him a dozen more times. Then after you fixed his hand you dumped him down disposals so he could be blasted by radiation while he was sedated.
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>>128514859
>Punch people
>They, unsurprisingly, react
>Ends up getting chloral disposal cause he's defending himself from a psychopath
>Hand still broken
>You're a fucking doctor
>I-I dindunuffin
Permaban yahir when? This shit is getting retarded
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anybody know how to fix the problem with advanced security cameras and crew monitor computers not showing the minimap?
I have updated internet explorer but no nice.
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>>128514962
IC matters are to be delt with IC matters so as no one is permanently removed from the round
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>>128515124


Except he died by your hand-so it then became OOC you dumb nigger.
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>>128514737
But we have equipment lockers here.

As for the exploit, see what Pomf posted. Of you abuse an exploit and someone notices, they will ask you about it, and you are expected to report it. If not, consider what it says about you and how you come across.
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>>128514997
do you think im some sort of swami who can predict when random events happen?
>>128515172
I never killed MacGregor
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>>128515106
when you code it

>>128515124
>you chloral and disposal me after stealing my stuff
>I chloral and lock you away in maint later so I can dig through medbay to try and find it until you wake up from the sleep tox and project mind an eng to get you out in 10 or so min
>You ahelp and cry to shiggy
>"IC matters are to be delt with IC matters so as no one is permanently removed from the round"
Fucking kill yourself
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>>128515225
Nope, but you sort of do have to own up to the consequences of your shitty actions, don't you?
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>>128515225


Doctor's shouldn't be acting like fucking assistant's you dumbass.
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>>128515172
[22:55:38]ADMIN: HELP: Dr. Explosion/(Old Man MacGregor): since there's wizards, I guess it's safe to assume Yahir isn't an antag. Completely unprovoked, he beat the shit out of me multiple times when I was in surgery for a broken hand, before stabbing me several times while I was under and flushing me down disposals without even fixing what I came in for. - heard by 1 non-AFK admins.
this was the ahelp sent by mcgregor, no where in it he stated that he was killed by me. the only person who claimed I killed someone was lavoss
>>128515308
you did attempt to remove me from the round by welding me in a 2x1 room without any way of escape
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>>128493750
That moment when you recognize the area because you've been there in real life and not in a game
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>>128436381
If you're Killet, you're pretty based and I actually like you
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>>128515402
Rule 0 accumulated shittery permaban when? You're the biggest dindunuffin since kingston. You attack people all the fucking time then when you get called on it or you get fucked with back then oy vey dis anudda shoah

You had project mind so you can talk to people. You had plenty of ways out. Hopefully after I dug through medbay to find my shit you stole because you're a hyper aggressive chloral nigger that needs to fucking go. I'll tell you again what I told you last time, I'm not some discount player that can't handle blowing up an ayy lmao and making sure the head is gone. If I wanted you removed for good you would have been.
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>>128515660
were you banned for it?
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>>128515660
im the friggen sawbones
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>>128515809
Woo!
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>>128515931
the Friggen Sawbones is here
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>>128515730
No. Why would I get banned for trying to get my stuff from yahir's tiny prick? If he didn't want to be on sleep tox in a hole in maint he shouldn't steal my shit. And if nobody wanted to help him, some did weld him out, he could always tell me where he put my stuff incl my id unless he acided or spaced it.
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Hopefully the pattern of Yahir's autism has been noticed by admins.


This isn't the first time he's gotten into a shit-fest with people that are normally cool players. He's so autistic, he brings out the autism in others.
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>>128516014
The God Damn Sawbones has Gazed Upon You, Do You Accept His Call To Trial by Combat?
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>>128516014
Petnavi was close so it's only a matter of time at this rate. I'd feel safe betting on freedom from yahir by 2017. If not from a specific incident then just all the accumulated faggotry.
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>>128516084
Sawbones go to bed
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>>128516136
it's like 12 why would I
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>>128515809
>>128516084
>>128515975
>>128516136
Sawbones whitelisted for skellington when?
#FreeSawbones
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post rare sawbones
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>>128516413
>>128516413
>>128516413

New bread, very fresh, please come
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>>128515976
why are you so upset about it then?
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>>128516721
Cause he always fucks with people then when he's called on it or it blows up in his face and h'es the one getting reamed he cries he's done nothing wrong. Then to have the gall to say that the shit this time was all IC and should be kept IC is fucking disgusting.
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>>128515106
clear and reset security settings on IE
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>>128509523
WHAT TH FUCK HAPPENED TO RAMBLIN?
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