/gdg/ - Grim Dawn General

How legit is Blade Trap? The DA% debuff looks good, really good, but I've never seen any one take it. Doesn't it work against bosses?

>>128412490
Is the DA debuff still tied to the CC? If yes, it's not so great then.

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tfw im now realizing that i'm going to need some god tier shit to live as a Conjurer in elite/ultimate

what are your weirdest builds?

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>>128413105
Welcome to the 'I didn't pick either Arcanist or Soldier' club.

Its that time of night again

I need - Lifegiver siget, Avatar of Mercy, Pretty Great Pants, Ultos chest + head, Ulzuin's torment, Ulzuin's helm

I have -

Colossal Grasp
Hammerfall Girdle
Sovereign Ruby of Domination
Touch of the Everlasting Grove
Fiendmaster Rainment
Fiendscale Jacket
Chestguard of Justice
Silverbolt
Deviltongue
Beastcaller's Shroud
Shroud of Illusion
The Final Stop
Death Omen
Time Flux Band
Necromancer's Deathgrips
The Adversary
Vileblood Mantle
Temporal Arcblade
Wildblood Girdle
Demonslayer's Jacket
Recipe - Arcanum Sigilius
Recipe - Beastcaller's Cowl
Recipe - Sacrifice
Recipe - Scourge
Recipe - Reckoning
Recipe - Oblivion
Recipe - Oleron's Wrath
Recipe - Iskandra's Balance
Recipe - Menhir's Bastion
Recipe - Primal Instinct
Recipe - Shard of Beronath

>>128395754
build?

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>tfw gear for your build keeps dropping

seriously, I've found 4/4 justicar armor, 4/4 dawnbreaker armor (mix-matching both for some thunder paladin fun), along with a handful of legendaries for my pistol sorcerer and witch hunter.

all from Cronley's hideout in elite.

at this point it's nuts i do 3-16k light retaliation damage, 86% damage reflection, capped resists, 2 different lightning nova procs when im hit/block, lightning bolts on attack.

Ultos would be proud of this righteous Warder.

>want to make an original build
>the only reasonable way to decrease resistances of my damage type is acid spray devotion
>meanwhile pierce resist can be decreased in hundreds

what the FUCK

>>128414168
Yeah, devotion is a mess right now and Assassin's Mark is legit broken.

>>128414168
>>128414297
CONTENT
COMPLETE

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>>128412549
O-okay, then. I was thinking of making a Occultist + Nightblade DEE caster, but the deeper I look into the Nightblade skills the more sub-par they are compared to anything that the Arcanist has to offer. I wish there were some real choices and not fake ones when it comes to char building.

>>128414362
>content = balance
wew lad

>>128413719

I have an extra Pretty Great Pants.

Duel Shield class when?
I wanna put up a wall.

>>128414764

It'll be called the Trumpeter and it will focus on using dual shields to block incoming damage and using a horn to provide buffs.

>>128414764
>>128414885
I cannot wait to troll trash mobs.
Hope it gets a DoT too so I can go full war of attrition.

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>decide to finally get serious with this game
>sit down with the skill calculator for about an hour meticulously planning out a build
>come up with something that I think will work really well
>build carries me through veteran difficulty with little trouble
>log was hard but I expected that
>can even get through Steps of Torment without *too* much trouble
>figure if there's any measure of a build's worth, that would be it
>assume the build would probably get me through elite
>LOL NOPE GUESS AGAIN FAGET
>THE FIRST HEROIC MOBS YOU ENCOUNTER ARE GOING TO PUSH YOUR SHIT IN YOU FUCKING VAGINA
>YOUR BUILD SUCKS, YOU SUCK, GET FUCKED
>ELITE IS ONLY FOR COPY-PASTE COOKIE CUTTER BUILDS THAT WERE MADE BY THEORY CRAFTING NERDS
>NO CASULS ALLOWED

Yeah, I think I'm done with this game for a while.

>>128414440
I know that feel, My DEE witch hunter used to be my favorite character.
It's not completely trash though. You get a ton of -resist from CoF and Veil, CC for packs with CoF and Trap, PB for sustain and casting speed and BB when shit hits the fan.

http://grimcalc.com/build/AIPzbs

It's not as good as Warlock but still doable.

>>128415351
>pick any class
>pick any build
>disregard damage
>disregard build
>stack metric ass tons of resists and go physique only
>breeze through ultimate in about a year

>>128414635
Sorry was making breakfast

throwing up a room now

lazy title
gdg

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>Vinarius the Backbreaker
>Engaging fight holding right click for 20 minutes while watching tv and activating the odd potion
>All his loot falls down an inaccessible hole in the ground
nice game grimtard

>>128415351
>elite
>hard

you what m8

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>>128415351
The Vet->Elite and Elite->Ulti difficulty gaps are insane. I'm 99.9% sure it's getting tweaked in the next build though, so don't give up now anon-kun.

>>128415938
Well I can't wait to try it out again when they finally finish the game in 2018.

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Does this mean I can use 2 main hands even as a Conjurer?

>>128416269
yep with that equipped you can dual wield regardless of class/skills

I think I'm just going to stop playing until the actual release.

Don't want to burn myself out too soon.

>>128416113
>2018
23/02/2016, senpai.

>"select all the pictures showing swimming pools"
>every image is a pool
>select them all
>"NO NO IT'S WRONG YOU FUCKING RETARD"

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>>128416298
holy shit

>>128415938
It was already confirmed a few days ago that the difficulties are getting tweaked next patch which is due this week.

First playthrough here, I am up to queen ravna.

How much DPS should I be doing for this? I am only doing 700 something atm. I watched a video of someone do it on youtube, at only 2 levels higher than me and they are getting 1.5k+ DPS.

I get raped hard by the queen, what do i do?

Is the blueprint for Squall still a random drop or is it sold by some faction merchant? I can't put my hands on it. :^(

>>128419058
Sheet dps matters only for a handful of builds.

If you want help, you should post your build and resists.

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we rerolling battlemage now
farmin for gear

>>128419395
I'll give you one.

>>128419058
If it's your first time then don't worry about it. Most people who make videos are 99% of the time twinked up the butt. As long as you can kill shit without dying, you're good to go.

>>128420808
>rerolling battlemage
>without looking at the up coming changes this week

Don't blame the game for your own mistakes then if they nerf Arcanist and Soldier and buff everything else.

>>128422427
>without looking at the up coming changes this week
oh? Where can I view those?

>>128422505
No patch notes yet, but

http://www.grimdawn.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30597

>The update will bring many changes to the existing balance of Masteries, including the complete overhaul of certain skills. We took a look at the balance on Elite and Ultimate and made some adjustments to the overall damage and Offensive and Defensive ability values.

Complete overhaul of certain skills m8. I'm refraining from picking any 2nd masteries for my current characters in case Arcanist gets normalized / the other masteries get some new interesting things to tinker with.

>>128422732
ah interesting thanks, I guess I'll just stick it out to 85 on my conjurer for the time being then I guess

>>128422732

I'm more interested in the new gearsets, there are a few big holes in terms of itemization. If they fill one of them I'd be super happy because it would really help my build.

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>>128422732
Can't wait for it.

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so how the fuck do these % chance devotion skill procs work

If I bind one to a toggle buff skill, when will it proc? on default attacks? what should I bind them to?

>Bleed damage all over nightblade
>Bleed damage %, Flat bleed damage
>Bleed damage on skill
>Bleed damage on gear
>Bleed damage on devotion
>Half the enemies don't even bleed
grimtards will defend this

>Activate the Arcanist's Mirror skill
>Invulnerable to damage
>You still get stunned from all this damage you don't take
nice game

>>128426261
>Invulnerable = immune to CC
Nice logic.

>>128426107
dude they just recycled the damage types from TQ for no specific reason other than it was already there so they didn't have to work on it.

They even say the hardest part of development was building classes? Why? because that's the only thing that changed remotely since TQ besides palette swapping. And they obviously suck at making new skills because everything is shit

>>128426107
>Something without blood should be able to bleed
>Doing a purely DoT build
lel & lel. DoTs are a secondary source.

>>128425809
Everything you need to know is written on the skills' tooltips, senpai.
n% chances on attack/crit can only be bound to attack skills and WPS ( Grenado, Belgothian Shears etc ).
n% chances on hit/block/low hp can only be bound on active buffs ( Maiven, Mirror etc ).

>ARPG
>2016
>mobs shooting you through walls for hours without realizing they're wasting their ammo on a fucking wall.
t-they're not going to release the game like this right?

>>128426950
inb4 a monster that can actually through walls
It's a spectral

>>128426950
>wasting ammo

>>128426978
>that can actually through walls
Shoot through walls. Gotta proof-read, even small worthless posts.

>>128426439
>implying stun is a CC
>implying stun is not a reaction to a high amount of damage done in a single blow
How do I get stun from 0 dmg?

>>128427274
>comparing realism to a game with an assload of unrealistic properties

>>128426651
Dots are cool, why would they remove them?

>>128426781
>Dots are a secondary source
Not true, but only a few dot builds are viable at the moment.
Anyway, Crate said they were going to rework them after the game's release, and even mentioned the possibility of them being able to crit.

>>128426950
the funniest part is that sometimes they could take like one fucking little step and actually hit you, but no they seems really intent on shooting at the wall instead

I'm looking for a warp shard. WHere can I find one / does anybody have one?

>>128427336
i didnt suggest that they remove them. I was simply stating that they put in all these damage types without any thoughts on how a build would look base around them.

I mean its extremely evident looking at how little the different skill trees interact as far as damage types go, and how so many skills seem like a clusterfuck of different damage types.

>Hey Crate, what kind of skills do you want to build for X class?
>Just fuck that shit up, f-am

b30 when?

>>128427814
Probably in like 48h

>>128427692
Fair enough. I preferred the homogeneity of damage types in TQ too.

I'd also argue that GD was initially planned with a very limited number of masteries ( 4 IIRC, Arcanist and Shaman were only a bonus ), and they probably wanted to shove as much stuff as possible to cover as many gameplay types as they could.

>>128428623

There's too many fucking DoTs in GD. Everything has a fucking DoT attached to it, I hate them. I'd rather the damage just gets thrown into the base damage, even if it's lowered.

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>>128412325
>the Loghorrean encounter has received a tuning pass that should put him more in line with the difficulty you would expect on Normal and Veteran

And I just got killed with 5k one shot with 11k HP, 80% chaos resist and ~50% stamina resist.

Atleast there's the new D3 ladder to waste time on until release.

>>128428623
what an idiotic move to add 4? damage types while removing 3 classes

you can make an arcanist with IEE and it doesnt fucking matter at all what elemental type you want to have on your equipment, as everything is fucking equal.

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>playing grim dawn with brother
>reach level 30 after 20~ hours
>find the game hard as fuck, both dying quite often
>that retard had it on veteran the entire time

>>128430618
Should be on Veteran, faggot. If you can't handle Veteran you'll die in the ass in Elite.

>>128430618

>veteran
>level 30
>20 hours

Look I don't want to be mean, but really? I assume this is one of your first ARPGs.

>>128430686
not him, but me playing not first time overall, and still have about same time.. im not on veteran though and wasted like 3+ hrs on bounty i can't handle.

>>128426261
While I agree that game has flaws, where the fuck did you read about INVULNERABLE? It says - 100% damage absorption. Nothing about shit that you can't be stunned or poisoned or bleed or whatfuckingnot. So yeah. I don't know what you are surprised about.

>>128427274
Garreth the Master Thief with a jack to the back of the guards head in a metal helmet could stun them. Not exactly scary amount of damage done there, buddy.

>just arrived at the necropolis as a dual gun edge + destr
>everything 2 or 3 shot me now
fuck, I know I'm crap at builds, but still

>+19% aether damage
>703 aether damage
>goes to 719 aether damage

What the fuck? Percent damage bonuses seem to do jack fuck. For reference I am using AAR.

>>128432509
its kill or be killed
dual pistols should 2 or 3 shot everything too
>>128432510
maybe you already have +1000% to aether damage so making it +1019% isnt exactly that great?

What to salvage to get bristly fur?

>>128432510
% increase needs high flat values to be effective. If you have 1,000% increase already, 19% is very little. Doubly so, if your base value is say 100, then you'll increase it very little ( by 19 )

% increase is additive, not multiplicative.

>>128432923
for the record, all damage but "+x% damage dealt to race" and "damage modified by x%" is additive, including total damage

>>128432774
I already 2 shoot everything, but with the swarm of ennemies, I end up kitting for way too long
but I have a lvl20 coat for the skill, and I'm sure I have a lvl 16 or so pièces of stuff laying around

>>128426651
>the best mastery in GD is Soldier, which was basically lifted from TQ

Yeah.. I wish that for the expac Crate will spend some of that Grim Dawn money to hire a fukken designer.

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>>128432867
My dick and balls

During previous betas when the level cap was like 25 or something I made an occultist that was entirely based around three skills - the poison fireball, the spreading disease, and the huge debuff. Is that shit going to be good in the current endgame?

>>128433603
The disease thing is kinda shit right now, but the other two are good skills, especially the debuff.

>>128432923
>>128432774

I'm using Aether Ray, and I've only got +134% aether damage. I feel as though the increased damage should be greater. For reference, my "Aether Damage" stat is 20-54. Does my Aether Damage on my Autoattacks affect AAR in any way?

>>128433869
> Does my Aether Damage on my Autoattacks affect AAR in any way?
No. Flat values are attack only unless specified otherwise. Many of the wording and mechanics is the same as PoE.

>>128430686
I get sidetracked

>>128430680
guess i'm just used too easy old TQ

>>128432867
>using dismantling ever
Just farm boars.

>>128434364

I wish there were a way to see base values. It's frustrating trying to decide if something is an upgrade when all my stats are padded by numerous items and buffs.

>>128433869
Flat damage only affects autoattacks and skills with %weapon damage.

>>128415351
Are you legit autism? I'm on my 4th original build that hasn't had this problem. Seriously are you just bad? I assume so wit such an autistic reaction

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>>128422732
will this kill my builde or i'm possible save because i only got one class

>>128440432
soldier will probably be left as the all-around good class
i have pure soldier now too and want to pick nightblade for cunning bonus and reduced resistances but im so worried those will get nerfed

someone know a good area to farm some equip i'm like 12 lvl behind my lvl with equip and i finished alrdy all hidden areas in normal and dont feel rdy for the next step

>>128441320
bastion of chaos
wait for patch

>>128440432

It's hard to say how the builds will be changed but soldier has always had good survivability.

>military conditioning with flat physical damage
>squad tactics with attack speed (which was then moved to loleron's rage)
>oleron's rage used to be one point wonder (+50% OA, long cooldown)

Maybe they'll make Blast Shield and Lethal Gambit and whatever else semi-useful in the actual release.

Or not.

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I'm looking for some epics that are around the level 25 to 30. My player character is 29. Where do I farm?

>>128435170
>farming boar ever
Just farm vendors.

>>128444065
Cronley/Steps of Torment

What are your most experimental builds /gdg/?

I beat the game. Is there a fucking story?
Because I don't feel like I accomplished anything.

where can i go to see all the unique gear in the game? the wiki doesnt help.

>>128447842
Did you fucking read retard?
>>128447842
This game is not well documented and easy to follow like poe. Also it's a community wiki. Update it homo

>>128448976
http://gracefuldusk.appspot.com/items

>>128447842
>Hi I didn't read anything at all pls why isn't there story?

>>128449137
I did. All i got was exposition and world building. Nothing else.

>>128428897
I do agree with this, it's especially annoying because most dots are attached to spammable skills, and hitting the monster again only refreshes the cdot timer, it doesn't add a stacked value to increase damage

>>128449523
Yes. The game is shit.

>>128449893
>>128449274

So there is no resolution to the story? I don't destroy the Atheral and the other fraction that opposes them? Just world building?

>>128450023
Not yet. Game is set for expansions

>>128450023
you stopped the summoning of C'Thon the old forgotten god whom if it comes back into our realm of reality all life will cease to exist.

you stopped the nuke from going off, but the game leaves open other stories to be tackled in expansions. such as rescuing Ulgrim from beyond, and the threat of the Aetherials, whom the forces of Cairn can now focus on entirely

>>128450187
>>128450203
Ah that makes sense with expansions I guess.

>>128444065
Don't bother farming for low level epics. You'll be level 50 by the time you find the ones you want.

>>128422732
Skills are just like 25% of the game though
Items are the other 75%

>>128450638
Kind of? Somw skills are pointless now and could be changed, a skill change could be a scale change too, ie taking off cold damagw, which would brick a build

>>128447763
Chaos ranged build
Shit literally sux

>>128450696
At least its a complete overhaul. Most of the skill trees need that
Maybe even add new skills. Still 80% of builds are item based

>>128451128
Chaos melee build works ;)

>>128447763
Trying to make a Cold/Vitality Necromancer NB/Occ to work
>Summon devotion skeltals
>Black Grimoire of Og'Napesh skeltal
>Necromancer's Grips spirit
>Curse of Frailty
>Chill aura
>Nightfall for AoE/Life steal
>Pox curse
>Ice spike left click

It's probably doomed to be entirely useless come ultimate, but it's doing allright in Elite so far, level 52. Hoping the coming balance patch will help it along the way.

>>128449745
I thought they introduced stackable dots in a build not that long ago? I'm pretty sure most dots stack

>>128451726
I can't for the life of me find any good melee witchblade shoulders (+Chaos/Physical dmg). Am I stuck rolling on crafted shoulders?

>>128451128
That struggle...
May you one day live the dream.

>>128452206
Frost Necro sounds pretty lichy. I dig it.

>>128452363
I think im using the ones from black legion

>>128451726
Is it me or are ranged builds in general pretty crap?

Will they be charging for the expos?

Guessing yes.

Last time I played I don't even think the third chapter was out.

Is having a large horde of summons possible in this game or am I just going to have to settle for something less fun?

>>128453187
So far my conjurer has 5 summons

Briarthorn
Hellhound
Familiar(Raven)
Primal Beast
And the Revenant

I haven't taken a look at all the times yet so maybe you can get more?

>>128453167
No word yet. It was a mention in the kickstarter, so probably

>>128452363

There are none, in fact most melee chaos gear caps out around 50ish and you'll get stuck using that till 85. Even worse is there are only two decent weapons for the build and the highest level one is 58.

>>128453187
I've got 7

>>128453167
Pledge $45 or more

441 backers

Early Access Edition + Expansion is everything from the $35 tier, including beta access, plus our first expansion (which will be developed after release).

Moni plx

>>128450696
They might change passives as well so there's that as well.

>>128454482
Wrong , level 70 devil crossing faction weapon is chaos

>>128454659

And it's total trash compared to the obsidian jugg.

>>128453064
If by ranged you mean guns then yes. Guns are very lacklustre overall.

>>128451726
What's your main attack for Chaos melee? Cadence? What do you do VS Chaos resistant enemies?

>>128454036
>>128454494
So how do you do it? I assume it's kind of a slow roll to this kind of thing.

>>128454659

Pretty sure that's a rifle and 1handed weapon, the only two decent chaos 2handers are Tenebris and Obsidian Juggernaut.

>>128454907
Don't bother m8. You'll just get diminishing returns if you go over 3 pets as they will just block each other and the AI will shit itself. 3-4 is a good number to be at with pets.

>>128454907
It took me 1 play through to get up to 5, I'm only level 48 at the moment but I'm sure once you get to 85 shit gets crazy

keep in mind my mastery tree is all sorts of fucked and took me this long to max both shaman and occultist

>>128453064
>>128454786
My ranged Fire Strike sorceress disagrees. It's pretty solid damage wise and safer than melee.

Ranged builds are fine as long as you're DW. So far, only rifles/xbows and gun+offhand builds have felt kind of meh.

>>128455849
What level? My DW pistol drops off fairly hard in Ultimate unless I have someone that can take aggro.

>>128455849
I'm playing as a ranged fire strike sorcerer and it's pretty ho-hum. DPS had a sharp incline in the 30's and 40's, but then it slowed down toward the 50's and never really picked up after even with lego weapons. All my melee and casters out perform my gun wielders.

>>128455000

>get to Veteran Log with meme pet Conjurer
>fuck yeah
>only one pet starts attacking his Chthonic face
>whatthefuck.exe
>other pets go full autismo standing around (not unlike myself) waiting for shit
>fight takes forever

At least the adds weren't a pain

>>128454930
Why would you go 2 hand when there is better 1 hand for witch hunter? Plus with 1 hand you can do 2 chaos strikes.

>>128456439
TWO CHAOS STRIKES AND SHADOW STRIKE AND YOUR A FUCKING MAGICIANS GETTING STUCK ON EVERY WALL AND ENEMY WHOOO PATHHUNG YEAH

>>128456439

Witchblade is Soldier/Occultist, not Nightblade.

>>128456849
Oh shit I didn't know two names had witch in it. Thanks video games

>>128456389
I managed to beat Elite Log yesterday as Conjurer. Deathless (nearly died twice)

Don't use that force pet attack skill at all, it's fucking horrible. Just walk around, heal and buff. Do not use that shit skill. I had 1-2 pets hitting log while others were killing adds. Only issues were the unavoidable nukes and stuns (great design btw crate 10/10)

>>128457074

It's silly but yeah. Witchblade doesn't have much to go on with all their maxed out items being in the 50-58 range, the super endgame stuff is caster and light armor. Witch Hunter probably has it a bit easier because of that but still there isn't really a set designed for it. The Harbinger set could have been it but for whatever reason that's built for a chaos ranged build.

What options do Chaos Soldier have for melee attacks?

>Been doing SoT runs trying to get recipe for haunt
>It just won't drop

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>128458762
left click

>>128458762
Chaos strike, candence, anything scaling weapon damage as long as you have phys to chaos

>>128458939
what are the stats on that?

>>128458808
Why dont you dumb faggots just ask here

I would have given you one but not now since youre dumb

Why do people trade instead of using a trainer?

Just sell a random item you have before cheating the item you want in. Literally the same thing as trading.

>go kill some trolls for MIs to craft mistborn talisman
>first troll drops shrewd bonecrusher of the rifthound

i so want to craft the talisman already but damn its good

>>128459304
Why are people buying from stores instead of stealing? Just throw a pennie on the ground before stealing the TV you want. Literally the same thing as buying.

>>128459304
its a slippery slope

>>128459304
For me finding a person to trade with gives almost the same amount of enjoyment as I get from getting a lucky loot drop. Besides, the enjoyment of these games end shortly after I get all the best gear equipped. It's the journey and not the destination. If I'd cheat all the best loot for myself right away then there wouldn't be much for me left to do after a week.

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>>128458762
I have a ~19k dps Chaos Blade Arc character. Shit's legit.

Haven't Augmented my gear yet, so resists will be higher soon.

>>128452206
dots from different sources do stack yes. Spamming one spell and expecting the DOT to stack does not work, nor should it.

But the fact remains that some of these DOT abilities are absoulutely worthless and just seem to be in there as a "hey we did this so you can't say its missing!"

>>128460140
Nice trainer character

>>128460140
What is arc? Can you roll over it and screen shot it?

>>128460140
>that gear
>hasn't augmented

ok

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>>128460140
>this is legit guise!!
>no augments

I can't breathe.

>>128460140

Man, it must be great doing software and not giving 2 fucks about resistances in Ult. Having practically 0 aether resist and those travesties of poison/bleed and trying to step 2 feet into Ult Act 1 is asking to get your shit pushed in.

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>>128462120
>Having practically 0 aether resist
>Implying Aether resist means shit

>>128461951
Sorry you're bad. :/
Gear farmed on other characters. There's this thing called the shared stash.

>>128461629
Is this what you meant? Or did you want the skill level? It's at 23/16.

>>128462465
Post you're tree.

>>128462465

Must have been great plowing through Warden's lab, AKA Aether THE FUCKING ZONE as well as Cronley's place like that. Then again, it must be nice just dying left and right and giving zero fucks.

>>128462465
You didn't answer the question, though. Why aren't you augmented? Why are you evading this hard?

>>128460140
>>128462465
Just fuck off back to the official forums where you belong with the rest of your ilk. This is getting pathetic.

>>128462465
Post deaths.

>>128462465
> :/
never return

>>128462465
Thanks, I didn't know what arc was. Appreciate it!

Why is everyone ripping on this noaugment guy?

>>128463419
Jealousness.

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>>128462782
>Why aren't you augmented?
Because I don't have Revered?

>>128462768
>Must have been great plowing through Warden's lab

You realize there's like no Aether Damage in Warden's Lab except for those really squishy summons and the Warden himself?

>>128462645
pic

>>128463497
Can you post a video of it? Why have you maxed curse?

>>128463605
>Can you post a vid of it
Want to wait till B30 so assess the damage that'll be done to Soldier first, before committing to a build/video post.

>Why have you maxed curse?
-%Phys resist so that I can better deal with Chaos-immune enemies (Harbingers). I have ~55% Chaos Conversion, so I'm split pretty evenly between Chaos and Physical.

>>128463809
Why no Sigil and no Possession?

Also how come no nigger uses shields? Worthless end game?

>>128460140

Sheet DPS doesnt really matter for the build, attack speed inflates it by a ridiculous amount. I'm rolling with a blade arc Witchblade and it's ok, fun but clearly not the best due to the limited range of blade arc.

Main issue is the gear

>Very few pieces over level 58
>Stuck using caster gear for chaos damage
>Resists on chaos gear are terrible, stacks you with chaos/vit/fire and nothing else

As this anon pointed out >>128462120 resists on this build are really really bad and there isn't much you can do about it. Your only option is to drop a few chaos pieces for high resist tank/physical heavy armor and just deal with being suboptimal.

>>128463497

>farmed on other characters
>couldn't be bothered to transfer over 2x rep mandates to new character
>couldn't be bothered to use DPS augments at honored even though you brag about your damage and care nothing about resistances

>>128463939

Because you don't need shields on SC when you can just port back and continue DPSing after dying.

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>>128463497
It's impossible to not have revered and be level 85. Literally impossible. Now fuck off.

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>>128463939
>Why no Sigil and no Possession?

Sigil is really only worth it if you're willing to max both halves on a Chaos build. The skill itself scales Vitality Damage, but you want to max it for the lifesteal, whereas the modifier scales Chaos damage (and meme-fire damage).

No possession because there's no way in hell I'm going that deep into Occultist.

>>128463967
Yeah, resists are going to suck even after I Augment. Might trade out the Devil's Cage chestpiece or whatever the fuck it's called for a Clairvoyant's chestpiece, but I need to get another to drop. :/

>>128463989
>couldn't be bothered to use DPS augments
>using DPS augments
niggawut

Troll Wart Powder or get the fuck out of Ultimate.

>>128464192
>It's impossible to not have revered and be level 85. Literally impossible.
picrelated

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>clearing random shit
>exact gear i was looking for drops from a chest

wew lads

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>>128464358
You get more rep in each difficulty + you're doing the quests again for rep rewards.

Literally.
Impossible.

Just admit you're a fucking cheater and move on, preferably to reddit.

>>128463497

>Oleron's rage instead of doom bolt and possession
>All those wasted points in fighting spirit, field command, and laceration
>Level 85 and not revered with ANY rep

You made a 2h soldier and just took one real skill in occultist, that's not really a chaos build.

>>128464358
I'm revered on my level 56 with two factions. I'm agree with the other guy, I don't believe it's possible. It's ok if you used a trainer guy, just admit it.

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>>128464705
>You get more rep in each difficulty + you're doing the quests again for rep rewards.
True.

>Literally.
>Impossible.
False.

Fuck, I took the bait.

>>128464809
>All those wasted points in fighting spirit, field command, and laceration

So let me tell you about this thing called 'Crit Damage'.

That's how you make Blade Arc builds really work. Laceration + Fighting Spirit give you an insane amount of +Crit Damage (and Laceration lets you hit more targets which is better sustain (lifesteal)), and Field Command boosts your OA by basically a max-level -of Attack affix.

>Oleron's rage instead of doom bolt and possession
>Implying doom bolt and possession are better than Oleron's Rage
Doom Bolt does not have sufficient damage for Ultimate to warrant its cooldown and Possession's casting animation is far too long to use reliably.

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>>128464192
Not him. 900+ hours in and none of my 20+ characters has ever reached Revered as I can't be arsed to grind for reputation.
I also don't give a shit about being suboptimal and just want to have fun.

>>128463497
>Decorated Soldier
>wants to do Chaos damage

whew lad. You don't know anything about this game, do you? You're fucking losing DPS.

>>128465276
(Assuming this isn't bait)

Took Decorate Soldier for the resists. Especially the Slow Resist; that's fantastic to have in Ultimate.

>>128465251
You'll get the reps to revered by Ultimate even if you don't grind. You only need to grind if you want them earlier.

>>128465251
Literally impossible, unless you're some sort of mongoid just sitting around in Normal all those 900 hours doing nothing.

Not that i have any faith that you're anything other that a complete fucking retard.

>>128465180

Judging by your picture you don't have nearly enough OA to be worried about crit builds in ultimate. Laceration especially is an ability you only need one point in to increase the targets for blade arc, maxing it out is pointless. Possession comes with not only a massive damage boost but also reduced damage taken, it's far more useful than a little bit of attack speed.

Honestly you'd be better off dropping chaos entirely, with those skill choices it's just holding you back because you're a bleed/speed soldier and not a chaos/lifesteal witchblade.

>>128465442
>>128465251

This, only reps you won't get revered if you grind to 85 is the Black Legion since it doesn't give any rep for mob kills. Shit like Outcasts, Homestead, Rovers, and Kymon/Vigil will get revered fast as fuck especially if you moved over mandates because WHY THE FUCK NOT.

>>128465740
>Judging by your picture you don't have nearly enough OA to be worried about crit builds in ultimate.

18.5% Crit Chance vs. most Bosses. Peerless Eye of Beronath is a good item, yo.

>Honestly you'd be better off dropping chaos entirely, with those skill choices it's just holding you back because you're a bleed/speed soldier and not a chaos/lifesteal witchblade.

If I was going for optimality I'd be a Battlemage. But I already have shitloads of those. By the time you've played as long as I have, you don't really care about what's 'the best' anymore.

>>128465402
You do realize that the phyiscal damage% doesn't get applied to the damage that you are converting to Chaos, right?

>>128466067
Yes.

>Took Decorate Soldier for the resists. Especially the Slow Resist; that's fantastic to have in Ultimate.

Doesn't look like I took it for the +% Phys, does it?

Although as I said >>128463809 here, I have ~55% Chaos Conversion and a lot of +Chaos and +Phys. I think I'm at +750% Chaos and +530% Phys, which is nice.

>>128465158
>It's ok if you used a trainer guy, just admit it.
>tfw use trainer for all items in the game
I don't care for the item-hunt, I just like theorycrafting builds, taking them through the difficulties and seeing if they end up viable in ultimate.

Do you hate me, senpaitachi?

http://www.grimdawn.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30597

;( so sad

>get first devotion point
>have no fucking idea what to do next

I'm Nightblade/Occultist with a focus more on the nightblade part if that helps.

>>128467361
you can always respec, it doesnt matter silly boy

>>128467420
>respc

Why would you want to taint your character?

>>128466335
Only if you pretend it was legit and tell us about your end game builds that doesn't mean shit if you can't actually level with it

>>128466981
What is sad about that thread, anon-kun?

>>128467509
What? It's an option in the game

>>128467584
;( they've come so far


>>128467509
?

>>128467741
>>128467675
Live with your choices or start a new character. Respeccing is pathetic.

>>128467420
That's not an answer.

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>>128467908
>complete nooblet
>max blast shield because I keep dying
>spend devotion points all over the place without any plan
>come to gdg for help
>muh live with your choices
>mfw
If you're not baiting, you're the worst kind of elitist faggot

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>>128467908

Getting the last 5 devotion points on Ult. I'm playing a tank and need more damage. Torn between taking the Bull for the flat internal trauma damage (stacked with Oleron) and assassin's mark debuff to put on blitz. Or should I go hawk for the +%OA?

Already have Ulos, Crane, and Throne for resists. Shieldmaiden, Anvil, and Boar for defense. Oleron and hammer for damage.

>>128468665
Assassin's Mark, senpai. - % resists is godly

>>128467908
XD

bamp

ded gen

build 30 is out

http://www.grimdawn.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30753

>>128473083
>The area in front of the boss has been slightly enlarged and more pets can now target it at the same time.

Finally

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IT'S HAPPENING

http://www.grimdawn.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30753

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>lease Note: due to changes in the Arcanist Mastery, the Reckless Power Transmuter (Unlimited Power) will be removed with Build 31. If you have any points in this skill, remove them prior to the February release, or else they will become lost to the Chthonic Void.
KEK

How FUCKED is their game engine? Are they serious? Not a GD/Crate hater but wow this is fucked up.

>>128473640
How are they supposed to edit your characters ? Anyway, nobody on earth has points in kekless power.

>>128473931
Some do. Seen a B29 character on that compendium with it. It isn't an awful skill as such, just niche/risky.

>"we have no plans nerfirng the loxmere nightmage"
>Loxmere Nightmade Energy Burn reduced and spawn set so that he will only appear at level 60+

>Blood of Dreeg: cooldown reduced from 24s to 12s, allowing it to be continuously active. %Heal now scales from 15% to 25% by rank 16 and 30% at max ultimate rank and regen scaling reduced slightly.


neat

>Lethal Gambit: Pierce and Cold damage increased and range on the Cold Damage removed for greater consistency. Cooldown reduced from 2.5s to 2s
Meh, it needed a complete overhaul, not some minor tweaks to its values. It's still a meme skill.

% attack speed returned to squad tactics

AW YEAH FIELD COMMAND JUST KEEPS ON GIVING.

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>Phantasmal Blades and its transmuter have been reverted to their original form, where the transmuter, renamed "Frenetic Throw" removes cooldown.
>inb4 they revert it next build

>War cry now taunts

honestly, finally, it makes sense to make that the soldier taunt and not blade arc

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That looks really good.
Also >elemental storm buffed
Aw yes

>Sigil of Consumption: radius now scales up with level.

Fuck yes. Also I can finally take points out of Solael's Witchfire and dump them into Squad Tactics.

>>128475387
looks worse desu

Hello /gdg/, is Soldier/Demolitionist the path to go to be a big bastard of a tank who throws explosives at people?

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Also, check this out

This patch is great. I'm glad they are working so hard to balance this single player game.

how are your characters faring after the update?

my Warder Thunder Paladin lost 1k health, 20% block chance, but gained 2k dps, and an official taunt in war cry.

I'm also noticing so far that war cry "hits" the enemies around me, and sometimes triggers on hit effects.

honestly I'm happy with this. I'm still at 12k+ health, and my resists/armor are all high as fuck.

Thanks again to the anon who provided this bleed based DoT/ Pox build last night:
http://grimcalc.com/build/oZTtIQ

It seems to be working out pretty well thus far.

>>128475862
hot damn blast shield is dope now.

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>>128475862
breddy gud

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>>128476579
You're welcome, senpai. Now I need to level it up too

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>Grinding in a single player game

>>128477091
Nevermind, not the same pox/swarm build I've linked here:^(

>>128474601
>>128474524
My soldier/occultist support build has an absurd erection right now.

>>128475387
Looks too typically fantasy-ish imo; previous map art was better, suited the gritty, grimy art style of the game.

IT IS HABBENING!

>>128477310
It has multiplayer

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>New Legendary set
>For 2H ranged weapons

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>shaman
>nothing but buffs

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>>128478540
>Grinding in a multiplayer game with no anti-cheat that is open to modding

>>128477310
>>128478540
>>128478884
>Giving a fuck at all.

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>>128478884
>Cheating

Can I make a decent pure occultist of any kind?

How many points should I put into physique and cunning?

>Loxmere Nightmade Energy Burn reduced and spawn set so that he will only appear at level 60+

Hah

>>128478480
http://www.grimdawn.com/forums/showthread.php?p=314467#post314467
B30 OUT!!!!

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>possession is now a toggle

>>128479316

Finally a reason to use it. I remember when Oleron's Rage and Menhir's Bulwark were temp buffs before November. Wew

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>>128479316
>It still sucks cock

My Battlemage Status: BTFO
>Block nerfed
>Devotions nerfed
>Blindside worthless
>Damage reduction from war cry scaled down

Fuck, I don't feel like playing to see how bad things are. Maybe start a new character.

>>128480230

I might just retool myself to be 2handed Aether Battlemage since I have a lot of gear for it. Don't really care since DD comes out in 2 days.

Can you respec devotion?

>soldier and nightblade didnt get nerfed in a notable way
ah yes time to keep doing the full crit build

>>128480627
yes it costs an aether crystal per point which is literally nothing

>cannister bomb (1pt) with 3/3 concussive bomb + 1 point in improved casing for fragments

>attach elemental storm to cannister bomb

>throw at group of mobs. >they're all stunned and are standing in elemental tornadoes that shred them to bits.

I do love this game.

>>128480829
What does improved casing do to fragments?

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If i were to make a Demolitionist Caster build (Mortars, traps, bombs) i should focus on Spirit, right?

>>128481291
oh snap your right, I though it gave fragments, but their built in already. oops.

oh well 1 extra point for something else!

>>128481394
for damage yes, but generally all builds are better if you put points into phys for survivalibity

Why isn't bloody pox spreading from enemy to enemy?

>>128482017
How significant is the difference from stats you get from leveling up anyways during endgame?

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>>128479976
>65% chance of 100% skill disruption protection
When? For how long? or just when you get hit by skill disruption?

>still this chance bullshit

>>128482290
For one instance of skill disruption.

>>128412325
Will I have to start a new character for the new patch to take effect or is it applied regardless?

I assume its just applied

>>128482650
It's the same files that are being overwritten, so what do you think fag

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>>128479258
>On Elite/Ultimate difficulty, the boss has received a slight damage bonus on several of its abilities and some of its spawns are now more dangerous.

Unrelated question to B30 patch, but is armor absorption capped at 100%? I seem to be slightly over and was wondering if that did anything.

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Is this bugged? Pox is supposed to be an AoE DoT right? It still says in the skill description "a virulent plague to spread amongst foes"

>>128483290
so whats the consensus on this patch

Also,
>% fire dmg on consecrated blade
What the fuck, what the hell is that supposed to do?

>>128483290
Why would you want to make a Pox build anyways anon? It's literally just "apply Pox and run in circles", who would consider this fun?

>>128482280
its basically an additional equipment slot that grants total of few hundred attributes
if your equipment gives you a ton of physique, go spirit. if a ton of spirit, go physique.
either way, its pretty significant

>>128483529
As opposed to what, "use clunky ass aether ray"?

Pox is probably the most fun skill in this entire game.

Killing a group of 100+ trash enemies with one cast is the coolest idea ever. They recently added something similar to path of exile and it's fucking great
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNVcuB-0pVM

>>128483980
>Pox is probably the most fun skill in this entire game.
>Killing a group of 100+ trash enemies with one cast is the coolest idea ever.

Uh. Your definition of fun is pretty shit desu senpai.

>>128482549
shouldnt this be just 65% skill disruption protection? why bother making it so fucking weird if the end effect is the same

>>128484343
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9iXlOHtzV4

>>128484343
Because 65% skill disrupt protection would reduce the duration of a given disruption by 65%, rather than completely negating 65% of disruptions inflicted upon you.

>>128483290
It casts on one, then as it ticks, it spreads to multiple targets. At least, it's supposed to.

>>128483529
DoTs are fun. You cast your DoTs, debuff, and watch things die.

>>128484753
if you want dots, go make a bleeding build around that one rifle with -100% bleeding resistance and rend from devotion
shit gets crazy with 100k ticks

>nerfing canister bomb

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>>128484753
>DoTs are fun. You cast your DoTs, debuff, and watch things die.
There's nothing comfier than spreading space AIDS to a big pack of baddies and watching them die in a slow and painful way.

>>128483980
fore reference, that build is not demonstrative of the typical gameplay of that build.

Whoever made that build did it in a shit way

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>legendary drop rates significantly reduced on normal/veteran
this is fair, but i don't like it. i want to be a shitty casual and get cool gear

this patch is shit and did nothing to the OA/DA meta. They didn't even talk about how much they reduced monster DA so any of these changes to OA ar e fucking irrelevant

They should have made OA easier to get for other classes. Not shit for everybody

>>128484553
why wouldnt they change it to like an increase stun threshold? So that a larger hit would be required to stun you. Or is that not how they figure stun?

>>128485989
I'm pretty sure player characters are unaffected by damage-based ministuns. Otherwise regular stuns follow the same logic in that % stun resist reduces the duration of an applied stun.

Besides, that would kind of undermine the effectiveness of overall CC.

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>>128485989
>To help emphasize the function and relative power of each, "%Total Damage" and "Damage Modified by %" have been changed to "%All Damage" and "Total Damage Modified by %" respectively.

U wot, mate?

>>128486154
In what way would that affect player CC?

You add in a stun threshold. Abilities can now reduce it or increase it. The player can be resistant to stun in a logical way and enemies can be made more vulnerable to it.

Instead its just fucking RNG like every lame proc in this game

If I start a character now, will I have to restart once it's released in February?

Also, are soldiers fun?

>>128486223
>Build 31
>To clear up confusion, "%All Damage" and "Total damage Modified by %" have been changed to "More of Damage %" and "Damage Total % Modified", respectively

>>128486443
soldier is easily the most versatile and fun mastery, even solo
it can go with any other mastery and make a very viable endgame build

>>128486443
>If I start a character now, will I have to restart once it's released in February?
No, there won't be any data wipe.

>>128486443
>If I start a character now, will I have to restart once it's released in February?
No, the game is effectively live now and has been for a long time.
Right now they're just working on polishing things for the final release.

>Also, are soldiers fun?
Yes and no. It's hard to fuck up as a soldier, and you're going to have survivability out the ass, but it's going to be a bit cookie cutter and generic.
As the other anon said, it can pair up pretty well with any other mastery, which, along with its survivability skills, is why it's such a popular second mastery to take.

wow. the new overworld map doesn't fit the art style at all, but i fucking love it anyways. it's nice to have one vibrant thing in an otherwise grimdark game

based on these new patch notes, is anything in a better position to be built around right now?

i like that the map shows everything now. was wandering around wondering where some shit is.

>need 5 severed claws for juggernaut relic
>each severed claw needs 4 chipped claws
>20 full chipped claws
>60 chipped claw parts
>they arent available for sale either in normal shops or the super sekrit one
>ashen waste gives 1-2 parts per run

welp
i guess this is where i spend next few days of my life

>>128487958
chaos/fire builds got a pat on their backs, and thats about it

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Let me get this straight:
>Nerfed shield classes
>Not only nerfed shield defenses, but also HP and what little damage bonuses they had
>Reduced OA & DA for everyone, can't hit shit now if you were barely making the cut before
>Enemies do a variety of damage types now, further forcing you to sacrifice offense for defensive resists
>Final boss is even more difficulty

I thought this patch was supposed to make things more viable, not fuck us in the ass and make it less so.

>bloody pox is broken

Cret pls

>>128487958
DoTs probably would be, but I don't fucking know because bloody pox doesn't work.

>>128487604
yeah its like opening a pop up book

>>128487604
>the new overworld map doesn't fit the art style at all, but i fucking love it anyways
My thought exactly.

>the world map is bright, colorful and full of green
>the actual world is full of corpses and it's raining
Reminds me of my trip to Brazil.

>>128488552
Reduced enemy OA and DA ... not players.

>>128488552
>final boss is even more difficulty

Literally most builds could do the last boss fine. I completed the boss with 3 characters, even streamed my level 44 doing it with 0 chaos and 0 vit resist and deathless on vet for /vg/ last week. he wasn't that hard, he was just impossible for specific builds (IE PETS) because of how buggy it was to try and get your damn pets to hit him.

He did get nerfed anyways, why don't you try playing instead of shit posting faggot

>>128479258
>All those +%'s to bleeds
NOYCE

>>128489428
A bunch of devotions with OA got nerfed, and a few skills too, I think.

So yeah, less OA for players too.

>>128490035
Ok, but with less DA for enemies, who cares?

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FIX BLOODY POX

REEEEEEEEE

>>128490035
>>128490035
You could try speccing cunning fuck face

>>128490558
>points into cunning
>get a tiny shitty amount of OA
>get less HP, can't wear heavy armor
nah
my chance to hit/crit dropped from 100% / 20% to 98% / 13%, i'll be fine

>>128479258
so what's the hot new build?

>>128490454
>Bloody Pox: Bleed and % Current Life damage scaling increased while cooldown and contagion interval has been reduced.
Seems better to me

>>128490983
>tiny shitty amount
well, % values scale off of the base, so a "tiny shitty amount" is better than nothing

>can't wear heavy armor
what? I've got like 600 physique and i'm like 60/40 with physique cunning, it's not that hard to have physique for armor
>get less hp

but you get a tiny shitty amount of hp per level :^)

>>128489562
I face tanked him up to elite and now trying for Ult. Are you clearing him on Ult.?

>On Elite/Ultimate difficulty, the boss has received a slight damage bonus on several of its abilities and some of its spawns are now more dangerous.

He got nerfed for Normal/Vet kiddies.

i want to go sword n board soldier but can decide on what other class to roll with since they all seem meh

>>128491267
yes, but his spawns are less over all, which was the main problem people had. Also, the void whips will cast more danger zones less often. The mobs themselves just literally hit harder

>>128490983
didnt the first soldier passive got a buff to physique?
i didnt put a single attribute point into phys and yet can wear all heavy armor lol

>>128491170
my dude is a sorcerer so he gets very little phys from mastery points, so getting more of it is more important

also it's really easy to get a significant amount of OA from gear, bypassing cunning completely

>>128491568
You can spec physice all you want, just don't complain about oa when you put literally 0 points into it

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>>128491048
>Seems better to me
Try it on a pack, then tell me how better it is.

*much

>>128491346
Commando should be pretty solid now.

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>Melee builds get to use fun weapons but they're all literally just "toggle buffs and press LMB"
>Caster builds utilize a variety of abilities but don't get fun weapons to play around with

Why must life hurt so much?

>>128490428
its a zero sum gain presumably. Just now the numbers on your screen are smaller. There will most likely be no change in how ultimate feels. So fuck you, this patch did shit

Also
>increasing cooldowns on any skills, while increasing player default cast and attack animations

What the fuck, do they want us all doing auto-fucking-attack builds?

>>128492590
They didn't chan-
>check my abilities
>chaos strike went up 1 second
damnit

>>128492480
Just play a Callidor build and be a melee caster. :^)

>>128492590
i wouldnt mind auto-fucking-attack if it was something more interesting than a normal attack but more damage/small aoe.

id love something like falcon swoop or tsunami as a main attack rather than a fucking 15% chance.