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Everyone Loves Greg Edition

New /gerg/ game, from the makers of Shadowrun Returns
http://battletechgame.com/

Mechwarrior Living Legends:
http://www.mechlivinglegends.net/

Living Legends Installer + Gamespy fix:
http://forum.mechlivinglegends.net/index.php?topic=19022.0
http://forum.mechlivinglegends.net/index.php/topic,20422.0.html

Living Legends Server Stats (Use this to check if anyone is playing):
http://stats.spikx.net/mwll.html

The HAWKEN zombie marches on:
https://www.playhawken.com/

Heavy Gear Assault:
http://www.heavygear.com/

M.A.V. (Now with more Chromehound legal rights!)
http://www.bombdogstudios.com/index.php/blog/

MechWarrior Online:
http://www.mwomercs.com/

New Player's Guide to MWO:
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1bmIEjECA6IbWRm92vmylZNv2QYVc5gXO7CT9jMITOrM/edit

MWO CW Map Viewer:
http://www.norrisdev.com/mwocw/

Kong PodKast #25: Heavy Gear Stuff
http://kongkast.libsyn.com/kong-kast-25-gear-bays-black-market-and-pets-oh-my

MWO Mechlab:
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab

MWO Heat Simulator:
http://keikun17.github.io/mwo_heat_simulator/

Kanajashi's Video Tutorials:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGPYOrhEFtg

Mumble Info:
Kong Mumble: kong-interstellar.typefrag.com
Port: 8270
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I'm number 1!
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2nd for another 748 shitposts
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>warhammers next week

oh boy, time for another pay 2 lose shitmech
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I hate pugging solo but I'm too green to consider joining group(s?)

help
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>>128392035
Kong is a very tolerant and peaceful religion, I mean group sorry.
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>>128392035
Too green to learn from people that know how to play? Is this a thing?
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>>128392153
More like performers' anxiety, really.

>>128392129
complimentary grape drink?
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>>128392153
No. People of all experience are welcome in kong. Just don't be a cunt.
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>>128392203
We only offer two drinks:
1. salty tears
2. salty jizz
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>>128392203
Ah I guess that makes sense but if you are upfront about being green and wanting to learn this shouldn't be a problem.
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Can't wait for the new set of shitmechs with shit quirks, that will then be made even worse when they eventually release for c-bills.

2016, the year of mechwarrior!
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>>128392203
This is 4chins. Nobody here is perfect. Don't stress about it.
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alright gentlemen, how do we fix the shadowcat?
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>>128395083

Double the energy hardpoints, remove the 400 tons of fixed jumpjets, make MASC not shit, give it weapon quirks, and up the engine rating to 300.
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>>128395083
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>>128395083
TT MASC speed values at least, 2E arms, and a 1M LT

A little more ER laser duration quirks too to make 3ERLL more viable with the omnipods we do have
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>>128395083
We:
Bump it up to 60 tons
Ferro
Endo
JJs
Optional MASC
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Shadow_Cat_II
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>they'll never make clam JJs and MASC not fixed
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>>128399397
>they will never give us actual Jump Jets
>we will be forever stuck with shitty "hover jets"
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>>128395083
Make gauss rifle a viable weapon again
Yeah I know, never going to happen
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When you see it
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>>128403032
This happens routinely in the test environment too. Either delete everything in the thumbnails folder, or update the Dire in the camo spec. This is a known thing already.
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>>128404430
I almost had a heart attack since I JUST bought the DW at the time. THought I somehow fucked up and bought the wrong thing somehow.
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>>128395083
play a different game :)
btw where's my waifu 4 laifu horko?
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About to get the pack for the IIC Jenner and Hunchback.

PLEASE DON'T BE A MISTAKE.
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>>128407351
Prepare for disappointment
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>>128407351
Don't feed the PIG.
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>>128407351
Jenners are very good, and the hunchback is super squishy.
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>>128407528
>>128407872
Oh.

>>128409150
Well, I was thinking about being super lame and LRMing with the IIC hunchback.
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So, i'm the one planning to sell DWF an get teh ScatCat to replace Cheater in CW.

I saved whale and got kitty for the testing purposes. Annnd i fuckin love it. First drop in Vitric Forge - we're attacking, like the little shit i am - got myself on the rooftop to annoy defence forces.
18 mins, more than 1000 dmg (1070 or so) and a silly death - resilt of just one my Shadowcat mech, still three left.

Bite me.
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>>128395648

Don't we have ghost heat for 3 clan ERLLs?
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Is there a reason MWO looks like shit yet runs horribly?
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>>128410497

deep-rooted cryengine errr... oh no, it's the other thing.
Lets say - fish.
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>>128409491

>durr, I'm gonna drop 40 dollars on a light and a shitty medium.
>the medium will be used to boat lurms.

2/10.
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>>128406498
ded bro
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>>128411442
What should I spend it on then?
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>>128411661

Bacon.
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>>128411661
spend it on a rifleman you stupid fucking goy

get the Legend Killer while you're at it
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>>128410497

Roughly a hundred years ago, MWO was like any other cryengine 3 game, which is to say it looked excellent.

Late in closed beta, they 'upgraded' their xbox 360 custom cryengine build. This broke the netcode so hard, they had to delay open beta for two weeks, it killed inverse kinematics, somehow erased DX11, and all the fancy features went MIA.

Sometime during open beta, someone at PGI decided it'd be a great idea to optimize cryengine 3 for antique 2006 dual cores, and you probably know the rest.

Last time they talked updates was when DX12 was announced, and Russ made some ridiculous statement that they will never upgrade their potato version of cryengine, because they apparently need DX8 and DX9 support - which were dropped by crytek in 2014.
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>realizing that if I buy a Blackjack, I can cannibalize every part I need for it and it'll just be the cost of the frame
BLACKJACK HERE I COME
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>put twin UAC5s on a Blackjack
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http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=79&l=2687fc03fe4f9997c47f545bd15d5c7d1fae93af
Yes???
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>>128412920
It's pretty standard and should let you wreck faces.
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>>128410497
toaster optimizations
outdated cryengine
pissed off crytek so bad they won't offer any support
all coders are first year interns
original competent code was handed off to the incompetent pig
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So a week or so ago I blew some MC on the hunchback pack and since I've played them quite a bit I'm not really feeling them. Probably wasted too many c-bills on them too in the process...

Any suggestions for a good mech/mastery bundle worth blowing MC on?
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>>128418305

What weight class do you feel like?
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Unlimited small lasers just werk
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>>128418305
Thunderbolts and Blackjacks are the actual best in class mechs right now. There are acceptable alternatives but don't settle for second best. the 5SS thunderbolt literally the most horrifying heavy brawler in the game right now. Should you choose to acquire Thunderbolts, make sure your first priority is to get max MPL range and cooldown for the 5SS. When you get the extra module slot eventually you should put the LPL cooldown module in and swap out an MPL for a LPL.

For real Thunderbolts are crazy good and crazy fun.
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>>128418452
I've only played Mediums so far, I haven't tried heavy or assault, and I don't think I'd do any good at Light. Although I was tempted to jump in as a Firestarter and just learn the hard way.

>>128418795
I haven't looked into Thunderbolts actually. They seem cool.
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>>128419020
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=115&l=af6bc5fecde6ff9f78673b0b015b57df307dbda0
This is what I run on the 5ss with both MPL and the cooldown LPL modules. That graph to the side saying firepower is the alpha strike damage and you might notice that it's fucking huge. Furthermore, you get like 3 alpha strikes before you overheat.
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>>128419020

Do you even trials?
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>>128419020
Don't fall for the Firestarter meme if you want a light. No ECM and it's fucking huge. Get something smaller with ECM, I enjoyed the Arctic Cheetah.
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How do we make the Urbanmech decent?

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=277&l=512c7d73d9f8fab0d2e1bfc29b95873b27c54b47

This build surprisingly works in pubs. Any ideas on how to make it a little less shit?
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>>128421696

I like the part where you combine an ER PPC with 11 dubs, 7 of which are truedubs, for guaranteed zero damage dealt on Mordor and autistic valley.
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>>128420154
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=291&l=0673c22705b1651b68e33300644d53eb895cf864

This build still relevant?
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>spend the entire match flanking in a fucking KGC
What the fuck is wrong with me.
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>actually have a good round in a light mech
>shadowplay wasn't recording
Why did I not turn it on now of all times.
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>decide yesterday I want to buy a Blackjack
>check today to see how much I need
>they're on sale
fucking incredible
this is great
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considering all the sales, pack discounts, rallying to pull more positive reviews and profish release for steam. am i smelling fear and despiration at pgi?

or is this cockroach company gonna continue being shitters in gaming forevermore?
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>keep forgetting that DHS costs 1.5mil on every single IS mech
fuck
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Would an Atlas be a bad choice for someone who is still fairly new? I don't really see any other way of learning it than to dive in head first.
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>>128422072
>http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=291&l=0673c22705b1651b68e33300644d53eb895cf864
Perfectly fine desu.
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>>128426849

>combined numbers SHOULD have had us in the top 45

Russ please. Post some actual numbers or fuck right off.

Its 5am, west coast america, and the #45 game on steam right now with the most players currently playing is "Space War" at 3948 players. Just slightly under MWOs all time fucking high.

Russ, this is seriously pathetic.

http://steamcharts.com/top/p.2
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>>128427931

Honestly, the trial Atlas is kinda fine. I would however like to state that the Atlas becomes stronger the more cohesive a team you have. Atlas's main role is to be in front dealing horrendous burst, then torso twisting and tanking like 3 enemy mechs while your squad shoots past you and destructo's the enemy team. The problem is that you often die even when it goes well so if you don't have a good team to trust it's a little hard to play the Atlas to its full potential, in which case you may as well be the King Crab (the trial of which is also supremely fine).
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>>128428436
>Ultra AC-5s and Medium lasers
>fine
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deb threb
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wow
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>>128434880
wew
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cJKLZg53qw
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>>128435663
Why is the fucking Jenner as big as the Atlas? Why is the Catapult so small? I mean what the fuck, this scaling is worse than PIG.
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>>128435897
They arent supposed to be in scale, the catapult is so small because he wanted to make it at the smallest scale his printer could do
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Guys is mwo p2w?
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>>128426849

They're desperate. Russ knows his shitty company will evaporate when they lose the license in two years, if not before then.
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>>128426849

>we'd be top 10 on steam, guys.
>top 25, I guarantee.
>top 50, swear on me mum.
>top 100, no problem whatsoever!
>what I meant to say was we'd be top 45!

Amazing position changes in only three months.
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>struggle to get any Cbills as a new starter
>takes ages to even aquire any decent mechs
>finally grind out a half decent assault mech
>consult the internet for cookie cutter builds
>raking in the Cbills

god damn no wonder people have this game since you have to spend an eternity in a limbo where you cant actually do anything but use trial mechs which have some of the worst set ups in existance.
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>>128439750

The trials are bad, but they used to be shit, and before that, they were suicide ovens.

PGI developers famously claimed that stock trials totally weren't trash, and that they could totally rank in as *TOP 8 ON THEIR TEAM* in them.
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>>128439750
>he wasnt here for the 3 Paul-economy cbil nerfs
We used to make so much money now you're lucky to make jack and shit you mostly just get shit
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How is the balance in MWO?

Are there objectively bad mechs, downright unplayable mechs or is it the classic, some mechs are better than others but as long as the pilot is good, the "good-ness" or "bad-ness" of a mech is negligible?
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So, why is this game so unpopular? I'm new what is this.
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>>128441726

There is no balance. You get shitmechs, minimally viable mechs, meme mechs that do one thing well, and one thing only, and then there's the top tier.

Top tier is more about your hitboxes, your geometry, size compared to other robots in your weight class, if you have jump jets or not, how high up your mounts are, if you can take a ballistic and tons of lasers, ECM, engine cap, and so on.

>>128441761

Because it's a bad game made by a bad company, that spent many years lying and abusing their customers. Only when it became obvious that they'd go out of business did they start doing work, and now they want people to congratulate them for doing a mediocre job.
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>>128442264
>Because it's a bad game made by a bad company, that spent many years lying and abusing their customers. Only when it became obvious that they'd go out of business did they start doing work, and now they want people to congratulate them for doing a mediocre job.

How sad. So we should wait 2yrs for a hopefully better one.
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>>128442528
>better mechwarrior game
Next one should be in 20 - 40 years. Hope you can wait that long
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>>128435663
That's pretty cool, I wonder if there are already prepared files out there.
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>>128442641
>20 - 40 years

Welp. Guess it's enjoy eating shit or go hungry, then.
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>>128443045
Eat shit for two years, then starve.
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>tfw just started playing a month ago and really liking it but already can see there's no progress to really be made without spending real money after the new player bonus is over
Bought a Timber Wolf C and 3 Hunchbacks in the recent sale but there went all my C-Bills and Mech Bay space. Trying to do Faction War with mostly trial mechs and teams of randoms always against full premades is impossible. GG I guess.
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>>128445831
not only do you need at least 4 mechs for Community Warfare, but you also need 2 more mechs of the same chassis as each of those four to grind out at least tier 1 skills on all of them, then grind the tier 2 skills on the one you want to use. Then you need to grind out the millions of cbills needed to buy the weapon and mech modules you'll need to be on an even footing.

and even then you can't beat 48 mechs on your own, you'll need the 11 other pilots on your team to have done the same grinding as you. Only then will you have bumped up your chances to "hypothetically fair". Your rando pug will not likely have the co-ordination, communication and player experience required to put you on a truly even footing with the premades.

Welcome to Faction Warfare, where only the truly autistic thrive
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>>128445831
You don't need to win to get to rank 2.
You only have to play a few matches and get some kills and damage.
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>>128446876
The grinding of multiple variants of the same mech had to be the biggest gripe with the grind right?
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>>128447093
That's true, but it still makes playing an unpleasant experience compared to quick matches. A real shame too, I think the mode is better than the others from a gameplay standpoint.
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>>128390887
how can anyone hate the cent AH when it's such a perfect backstabber
took down five heavies in my last match with that ac20 srm12 combo, felt like pure sex

pic related
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>>128440376
was that back when the game was 8v8?
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>>128448118
You mean real objectives other than "stand in this square"?
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>>128447652
Yes, by far. Personaly, secound would be the ludicrous price of mech and weapons modules.
>Want a few % more range on ur lazors, goy?
>That's 6 gorillion cbill and gxp
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>>128442161
I am already gone never to return.
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drops happening
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>>128451009
no they are not
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>>128449824
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What's the best clan mech?
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Which is the better medium brawler build?
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=28&l=942a74d11050f39455fe22d45d51105b492ce6b6

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=61&l=b91cb1f7b3afbe92acc3b709706dd987f78b8943
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>>128454305
>medium brawler
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>>128454305
>Trebuchet
>medium brawler
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>>128454168
the ebin is pretty cool guy
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>>128454406
>>128454739
Spare me
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>>128454305
this nigga
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>>128454887
No. What's worse is that you even considered lasers and non ART. srms for "brawling".
Also, if you're going to do mediums like this, XL engines are really the only way to go. Hunchback is the rare exception of "medium that you never put an XL in".
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>>128454168
>annoyed kitten
>hellbringer
>ebin jag
>shitcrow
>dire whale
>cheetah
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>>128451009
I'd like to play with you guys later but I'm not very good.
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>>128458706
Like that stops anyone. If you're new it's the best way to learn how to play. Kong and Gonk both are glorified pug groups.
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How's the Kintaro?
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>>128460187
Shit. Get a Griffin if you want something with MISSILE. Don't do lurm though.
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Rifleman? I'd rather have the Wyvern. It may move like a heavy, but at least it saves on tonnage and has jets.
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>>128460660
Elaborate.
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>>128460878

>small engine.
>saves on tonnage.
>MWO.
>bringing a robot with less than a 250 engine.
>ever.
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>>128460878
The wyvern isnt in this game is it? Its been a while since I visited gerg. Have I missed anything?

I doubt it but it's still worth asking
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>>128461330
No, I meant I'd rather they add the Wyvern to the game.
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>>128461137
There ain't nutin to elaborate. Lurming is for shitters. Griffin is the best IS medium when it comes to missile (read: srm) builds. It has jumpjets, ECM, a good missile hardpoint clustering and high mounts. Even the fucking hunchback 4j outperforms kintaro at lurming. Only really usefull IS mediums are the griffin and the overquirked blackjack at the end of the day.
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>>128461956
I wasn't planning on using LRMs.
Hell, I'd prefer not using missiles at all, but energy+ballistic mediums are basically nonexistant outside of the Enforcer.
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>>128462575
>not using missiles
>energy+ballistic
Blackjack does exactly that. Enforcer is alright, too, actually.
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>>128458706
Playing with a group is a lot more fun, and you'll learn more being dropped into the deep end as well.
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https://mwomercs.com/tournaments?t=201601champion3

There's absolutely no way this event will be a failure.
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OK HEY SO I can't get this fucking game to fullscreen properly

when I launch it it's this shitty little window in the middle of my screen

if I change the settings to fullscreen, it looks like ass and doesn't correctly display where the mouse cursor is. Using Alt+enter to force fullscreen "works" but the resolution is completely shit.

This morning when I launched it, the fullscreen worked properly (correct resolution, didn't look like ass) for the first time ever, and I've no idea why. It has since stopped working. The game is set to 1920x1080, same as my monitor.

Any ideas?
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>>128463070
I have an ENF-4R and love it to death but I don't want to only use it forever.
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>>128463437
The game always launches in a window, once the engine starts up (aka you log in) it should work fine in my experience.
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>>128463218
This event is easy as shit and those are some damned fine prizes
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>>128464025
Well, it does that, sort of, but when it does the game itself is in a low resolution and looks like aforementioned ass (Like it was being zoomed in on; everything is super pixelated, the menus are much larger than they should be) and the mouse cursor does not display correctly.

Alt-tabbing or alt-entering out and back in fixes the mouse, but does nothing for the "blown up" resolution.
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What are the best light mech builds where you go fast? I've fallen in love with the trial Raven.
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>>128463873
You have it elited? If not get some other enforcers. If you do however, you want something different that still uses ballistics and lazors, right? Does it have to be medium and/or IS?
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>>128463437
Just play in full window. Best setting.
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>>128463437
>>128464025
>>128465332
this is what happens when I screenshot everything with the game open.

The black box is where the game window should be, in full screen, on my 1920x1080 monitor. Note the box does not fit those dimensions.

The rest is what is being "pushed over," for lack of a better term, to the second monitor, which is 1600x900.
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>>128465563
you're right, but alas, this is what happens when I try.

using alt+enter while it's like this results in >>128465759
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>>128465508
I don't have it elited yet. Was hoping to get a few different mechs first for some variety before deciding which one I want to focus on first. As much as I love my 4R there might be one I enjoy more.
I also have a SHD-2D for if I actually want to play with some SRMs, but I'm finding I still prefer Ballistics and energy.
Also, IS, primarily. Been fucking around with that smurfy app and I dislike how rigid clan mechs are in regards to armor and structure and that upgrade stuff.
Current options for purchase so far are BJ-1, HBK-4G, VND-1X and maybe a Centurion, nor sure which variant, though.
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>>128465409
Cheetahs, ravens and firestarters are gud.
Cheethas usualy use 6 spl. Raven 3l with 2 erll, 4x with 2lpl or 2x with 3ll. Firestarter 9s or 9a with mpl.
>>128466168
>BJ-1, HBK-4G, VND-1X and maybe a Centurion
Avoid the centurion and vindicator for sure.
Hunchback is alright but the blackjack is better and very much meta atm. Its even discounted as of right now, so I would recomend it.
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>>128463218
>champion cicada
wow it's fucking nothing
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>>128466102
>>128465759
Well shit. Try going to

C:\Users\your username here\Saved Games

There is a mechwarrior fodler. Try backing that up somewhere then deleting it from here, then relaunch the game?
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>>128463218
I look forward to all this free stuff.
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>>128466518
Free mechbay tho
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>>128463218
>'Kill Most Damage Done'

The heck does this mean?
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>>128467054
you did the most damage to an enemy that you might not have killed
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>>128467039
>free mechbay tho
yeah like I don't already have plenty of those as it is
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>>128467054
Get the most damage done on a target that's killed (I think regardless of whether or not you get the kill but maybe I'm wrong)
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>>128465759
>>128466102

I don't know, man. Seems like your machine's not up to snuff/deep-rooted cryengine errors/it's all your fault.
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>>128467285
>>128467218
Oh thanks, that makes sense now.
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>>128467039
>13 open Mech Bays

Yeah no. The only thing that is valuable in that entire grindfest is the paint.
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>>128466694
Well, this let me figure out the problem. After I deleted the folder, it defaulted to DX9 and had the right resolution. Changing it to 11 made it fuck up. That shouldn't be a problem but hey, apparently it is. Cheers anon.

>>128467395
I'm gonna go with "deep-rooted cryenging errors" and/or "it's all my fault"
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>>128467589
>grindfest
>something you should be getting a couple of every round
Fuck off.
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>>128467816

MWO is a literally a spot on perfect game, with cutting-edge graphics, and the best business model ever.

Anyone seen the classic white knights lately? I don't think I've read a single shillpost by Heffay for like 4 months.
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>>128468567
Probably killed himself.
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>>128468567
>2000 a day
>4000 all time best
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>>128469721
https://steamdb.info/app/342200/graphs/

Monday hit them really hard this week.
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>>128468567
True. Guess I'll just suffer through dx9, it's better than the pixelated low resolution hell I was in before, I guess.
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>>128470305
Hey man, they've got 10k total with a whopping 6k these last two weeks.
They're doing GREAT.
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I want to buy a mastery bundle (or a few mechs if clan) but I'm not sure what to get. I'm still fairly new, and so far my main experience has been with hunchbacks (admittedly, I've been LRMing with the 4J lately). I have considered brawling, but I'm not sure if I'm brave enough for that yet.

I haven't trialed any lights yet either, I do see people say the Cheetah is awesome though.
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>>128470806
>Playtime total: 7.5h (average) 47m (median)
>47 minutes
Jesus how horrifying.
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>>128471041
That's like 3 games.
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>>128471119
If you're a new player it's the tutorial or just enough to leave a negative review of the game.
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>>128471509
Yeah I suppose.
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Does Ferro Fiberous armour actually make you more resilient or is it just a tonnage saver?
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>1/10th the players as MWO
>MWO
What in the hell is wrong with you people?
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>>128474945
that game still exists?
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>>128474945
Hawken is an absolute pile of shit, while MWO has some mild fun involved?
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>>128475501
You're entitled to an opinion but if it's that revolting then keep it to yourself.
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>>128474945
I thought Hawken shut down a year ago?
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>>128475910
>actually plays Hawken
The mech design is so garbage it's ridiculous. I don't know how much it has changed since I played it in early Alpha, but it was dogshit back then and I didn't enjoy it at all.
I mean one of the mechs is literally a CRT television on legs, what the fuck?
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>>128476078
You're going to tell me Mechwarrior has great mech designs?
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>>128476078
My experience was that it was literally just a crappy FPS with slow as shit movement speed. Can't imagine anyone wanting to play a game like that.
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>>128476815
Compared to this eye cancer, absolutely. Mechwarrior mechs are generally fantastic looking. You have shit taste.
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>>128476817
Nah, limited turning rates + boosting/dodging/jetpacking makes skillful movement crucial. You also have to juggle managing fuel, dodge cooldown, and weapon cooldown while watching the minimap. That's in addition to actually being able to aim. It's mostly movement/positioning based.

>>128476949
They look like humanoid robot toys from the 90's. I could care less what you think of Hawken mechs but everyone knows Battletech is retro as hell and 80% legs.
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>>128477562
>Battletech is retro as hell and 80% legs.
Good thing I'm a leg guy. :^)
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>>128440376
>top 8
>2/3rds of the team
>possibly the entire team
>something worth talking about
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>>128471041

The game is very bad at generating stickiness. Steam babies don't have the ancient guilds full of old men to peer pressure them into being the nth guy in the drop 'just this once, please,' and the community is at least 50% of the MWO experience.

But surely, PGI knew this, and prepared for it by making better tools for the guilds, a big chat room where you can try to score new players, a mentor system, made private matches not cost real money, redesigned the maps to not be so shit, made the graphics fit for 2016, and- oh, wait, they didn't do anything.

It's still too early to gauge their steam success, but I'm gonna be super surprised if they can even maintain their 2200~ concurrent into february.
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>>128470926

Don't buy anything until you've played for like a month. PGI's most common trap is to snare people with promises of fun gameplay, then once their elo/tier increases somewhat, they realize it's not fun, and quit after having blown 7 bucks on mechbays.

Just grind robots like a normal person.
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>>128463218

So, wait, does it count does it count as a 'kill most damage d>>128473436

Saves weight, costs slots (and cbills). Of course, you could spend your newfound free weight on more armour.
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>>128470926
you should have enough cbills from your cadet bonus to buy your first mech, don't spend any cash until you've played at least like 50 games

>>128473436
it only saves tonnage, and it always saves less than endo. it's only worth using on a few light builds with more crit space than they can ever really use

>>128475910
hawken had some great ideas but the technician and incinerator literally ruined everything. they're antithetical to the games design. i've played on and off since alpha and have technician maxed on xp

I actually like the mech designs
>hawken official website hasn't even been updated to include the incinerator
>mfw
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>>128476815

Hawken's design was so shit and offensive, the first thing reloaded did was remove the CRT recruit, and give everybody an assault instead.

Even the new owner fucking hates the dishwashers and septic tanks bullshit, but was smart enough to realize it was costing him business sticking people with the ugliest robot as the default.
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>>128481368
Yeah, as someone who has only started playing since the Steam release, I have to agree. I don't see it staying above 1000 players soon. It's a fun game, but hellish to play as a new player without anyone else to play with. Faction matches are unwinnable so it's not enjoyable (last one I just did was apparently against a pro German team and they slaughtered us in minutes and spawncamped our dropships) and there's no competing with them with most of the trial mechs. I don't mind the graphics, they look decent enough, and the game runs well for me. But the original community of middle aged assholes taking clan shit too seriously and shitting on new players kill this harder than the absurd grind for money already does.
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>>128481781
>but the technician and incinerator literally ruined everything.
It's a very slightly OP combo but it's not that big of a deal. People still play literally every mech so there's no game balance issue big enough to screw up the game.

>>128482335
Sounds like somebody got assraped by the bsod and never recovered.
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>>128482505
Really there should be non-clan something for CW so that newbie random pugs don't get matched against pre-mades. It's so awful since CW seems to be the actual meat of the game, but it's almost entirely inaccessible for anyone not in a clan
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Are 6 LRM5s really better than 2 LRM20s?
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>>128484087
yes
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>>128483286
not even the combo, just what they bring to the team. in my experience you're literally required to have at least as many techs as the enemy team if you want to win a pub game, and incinerator is just icing on the cake for team pushes.
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>>128484616
How is this thing supposed to compare to the Marauder, again?
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>best robot game of the decade
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>>128484616

Honestly, it looks fucking shit.

I know they've decided not to stick super close to the original, but that barely looks like the source material.

>boob lasers.
>the PPC arms will get fucked over with lego cancer.
>nipple machineguns.
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>>128484616
>>128485456

I'm actually really excited for this, I've been waiting for the Warhammer and the Rifleman since the day the game was announced or rather since Mechwarrior 5 was announced

Today I will remind them https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OC2lsZU_Y4A
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>>128482505
It's bizarre how the casual mode is super fun and you can wreck people with trial mechs, and the autism mode you're forced to play if you want more mechbays is absolutely terrible. Getting matched with a 12 person murderball clan is the worst shit I've ever seen.
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>>128485456
Too bad the source material is stolen from some nip cartoon.
Back to the cuck-shed weeb fag.
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>>128485834

It's almost like there's a reason every other game ever made insists on not mixing pubs and the MLG elite.
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>>128483456
Yeah, it really needs to be changed because it doesn't work as it is.
>>128485834
My thoughts exactly. I've gotten 8 kill matches with a couple of the trial mechs in quick play and it's generally very fun, never feels that unbalanced but the rewards are minimal and the objectives in faction are more fun and interesting. It's just practically unplayable unless you've put hundreds of hours in already to get a full drop of decent mechs and have a full team to play with. I need Mech Bays but it's such a painful slog to get them.
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>>128485834
Most fun I've had pugging in CW was doing defense against the Clans and getting teamed with pre-mades that were short a lance, if you're against randoms you have a really good shot at winning and can still have fun, and if you get matched against pre-mades you still stand a chance as long as the other pugs with your aren't retarded and work with clanfags.
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>>128468567
regulars flood the steam hole looking more like a cult everyday but nothing significantly insane/ lolworthy.
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>>128485789

Here, I made a more realistic version.
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>>128486486
>standalone games
>listed as expansion packs
wtf is this?
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>>128486775
>In-game screenshot
>hehe le it will look like this
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>>128484616
I find this lack of inverse kinematics disturbing.

MW3 > MWO
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>>128485456
>boob lasers.
>the PPC arms will get fucked over with lego cancer.
>nipple machineguns.
>cockpit recycled from kintaro and banshee
>thunderbolt shoulder pads

its shit/10
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Apparently I bought 12k MC at some point. Should I blow it all on Arctic Cheetahs because I have fuck all cbills right now.
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>>128486197
>rewards are minimal
I think as long as you do well consistently you can get about the same amount as you would in Factions. You can do two or three Quick matches in the time it takes for one Faction match to organize and finish.
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>>128488735
>I bought $50 of MC at some point
I've made this mistake too. Don't need mech-bays?
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>>128489579
That is true, but you can't get mech bays, MC, or the bonus gxp and C-Bills for ranking up lotalty.
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>>128488735

Mechbays, a mastery pack that has a good hero mech like the stalker pack, premium time. Other than that, don't bother buying anything else.
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>>128489635
I'm good for mech-bays rigtht now. What I don't have is any lights, and not many heavies. If I blow it on Cheetahs I still have around 3.5k left over, so I could grab some more mech-bays then if need be.
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>>128490565
buying standard mechs with mc is one of the worst investments you could ever do
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>>128484616
>>128485789
Well uhh
it could look worse
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>>128490565
Aight. Have fun then.
Cheetos feel too limited on builds for me personally.
Also not really sure why'd you buy them with MC when they're out for C-Bill, less you just really don't want to grind for them.
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>>128490831
Well, judging from previous comments I shouldn't buy them with MC. Maybe I'll look into a mastery bundle, otherwise I'll just hold onto them for now.
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>>128491272
What mechs do you currently own?
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>>128491272
Yeah, that's the best advice. Mechs for MC, unless they're Heros, is a dumb idea.
I blew my MC on camo's, and have the prettiest mechs around.
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So I'm thinking of replacing a mech in my drop deck with... something. I haven't decided yet. It adds up to 240 with 20 tons left over. Don't know with what or what I need.

>Kit Fox (2 LPL, ECM) I mess with this one's build a lot
>Mad Dog (6 LRM5s, 4 ERMLs)
>Stormcrow (4 ERMLs, 3 Art+SRM6s)
>Executioner (UAC20, 4 ERML)
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>>128491961
In my experience people shoot the faggots that have colourful mechs first. My Jade falcon coloured Executioner draws more fire than it should just by existing.
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>>128492346
My suffering. I want to look cool, but I know if I spend money to change from IS Olive Drab I'm going to get focused down like crazy. Nobody expects anything from Green Mech #20 but the guy in a tricked out Firestarter or a Dazzled up Stormcrow attracts a lot of attention.
Do people still prioritize guys painted say, basic (c-bill) red?
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>>128492123
>>Mad Dog (6 LRM5s, 4 ERMLs)
...so you're one of 'these' assholes.
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>>128492346
...I have noticed people tend to snap onto me when they see my pink and white hunchback.
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>>128492123
>not 4 Mad dogs
Get out faggot
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>>128493159
C-Bill Purple makes you invisible.
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>>128494607
Does it? I figured it'd be good dark environment camo. My question is, does a dark grey/blue/black premium color have the same camo effect or do people still actively pick out the guy in the jet black mech.
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>>128495284
Depends on the map really, but from what I've seen, black tends to be kind of shiny so unless the map is already dark colored or at night it doesn't disguise well. Probably harder to spot than bright colors at any rate though.
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Tempted to buy a Mad Dog for my first ever clan mech. Do people REALLY hate Mad Dog LRM boats as much as I read?
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>>128497691
Nah, Do it, but use something like this
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=212&l=89ceaa9275a615341d8f387ff6379ebadb8fadca
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>>128497691
I don't know why they say that. My Executioner consistently outdamages my Mad dog on a per life basis. People just hate taking damage from things they can't see or fight back.

Like how people bitched about Artillery in WoT.
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>>128495284
>Does it?
There was a legendary Konglet named JackAttack who had all of his mechs colored in C-Bill Purple. He was able to get behind and back-core everyone, he always racked up tons of damage and tons of kills. Nobody ever shot at him either. He was the master shaq player.
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>Event starts up
>LRM boats
>LRM boats everywhere
>LRM boats FUCKING EVERYWHERE
>they'll all just sit there long range-ing whatever they can without actually killing them to reap the goodies

>all the premakes are gonna sip on pissbaby tears because ECM light buttfucking
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>>128498842
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>>128498842
>>128499652

>not running fast mechs with triple ams and ecm
>not raping lrmfag shitters

do you even mech bro?
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>>128498612
>tfw JackAttack will never drop with us again and carry us to the spudland
jack pls come back
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>>128500826
Jack wasn't even that good.
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>>128501425
LYNCH HIM HE DARES SPEAK ILL OF OUR GLORIOUS LEADER
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>>128500826
Jack is dead, Greg. It's a good thing. His body is the great tree that, being felled, leaves room for the rest of us to grow. Rather than waiting for him to come back, maybe you should attempt to take his place.
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>>128503909
>says the yankee
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>>128503909
I agree that we should not look to the past to define ourselves. This is why i have chosen to evolve myself within the Something Awful community.

I would recommend others to follow suit. I dont like kaelus
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>>128503909
>Telling Greg to step the fuck up
>Raptor noises intensify
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>>128485789
I still hate those tiny super-low-slung PeePees so much. So so much.

>5 minutes in GIMP
>scale is 130-135%
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I've never played a full on mech game before. mwo looks pretty fucking cool, even if a lot of the f2p elements are shitty. do you guys hate it as fans of previous mechwarrior games, or do you hate it because it's legitimately a bad game?
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>>128505149
Its an average game. Litterally 6/10 material. We hate the people running the company that is developing the game. At one point we collectively hated them so hard we burned down the internet. Pic related.
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>>128505149
>do you guys hate it as fans of previous mechwarrior games, or do you hate it because it's legitimately a bad game?
A lot of the former and some of the latter. It's not that the game is completely shit, it's that devs that don't know what they're doing are ruining what could be immensely better if they were competent.
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>>128505149
In 2013 the developers blatantly gave up working on the game by funelling millions of founders cash into a shitty star citizen clone. That has pretty much been remedied as of now with transverse failing miserably, leaving PGI the only option of keeping MWO alive.

Second reason people are salty is that once you get into higher elos, the game gets unfun real fast. As a stompy robot game it is the best out there but people expected more, especially after the abandoned 2009 MW5 trailer.

Other random piecemeal things where PGI changed their direction against the founders best wishes and general incompetence over 4 years wore into people. Balance and grind are always cyclically returning issues
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>>128505025
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>>128492123
3 identical Mad Dogs with LRM spam pods, 1 Brawlcrow with SRMs for cleanup.
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>>128391924

Expect to see people using them as...laserboats.

PPCs, LOL.
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>>128445831

If you're not at least in your faction's TS grouping up with units, you're doing it wrong.

If you're having to use trials, you're also probably doing it wrong.

CW is hard mode, because there is nothing shielding you from the top of Mt. Tryhard smiting you with laservomit, as there is no matchmaker like pubbies get. You fight who's there. If you suck, you get seal-clubbed.

That being said, the best way to newbie CW is honestly to just grind out rank 2 in a faction, then switch. Repeatedly. Each R2 you manage is a free Mechbay, and those are by far the handiest things around.
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>>128506373
The preview video indicates that there are very high velocity quirks at least.

I cannot use big lasers on my MAD-3R, I just can't. It feels wrong and I play worse.
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>>128463218

Wat.

>no more killstealing assholes getting your points in a single poke because it's "most damage done" that gets you the reward on a kill
>easily cannibalized for C-bills chassis with a fat 340XL

This is gonna be quick and easy for me.
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>>128483456

Honestly, no. Pugs need to have a 4v4 mode that 1) gets faster games and 2) keeps them out of the big unit shark tanks.

And CW is accessible to single players, mind you. But they've basically got to go on the forums, find out the factional TeamSpeak servers, and get on them to at least be in a properly linked up group.

Liao is like that all the time- our "big units" tend to be more likely half an actual unit + PUGs that get taught to work with the unit. Or multiple lance-sized units glommed into a queue. Again, same difference.
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>>128485834

That's because you're playing with a matchmaker in casual mode.

Rank up a bit and you'll run into the murderball-level players (when you hit Rank 3) and you can experience true robot hell in the pub queue as well.

But that's F2P mode. They -want- you to spend at least a few bucks on enough MC for MechBays- or else pick em up during one of the challenges.

Take the one starting the 14th. You putz around in casual queue, you eventually get a 'Mech- which comes with a free Mechbay. Don't like Cicadas? Strip it, sell the chassis, you got an open bay and money (keep the XL340 engine if you keep anything, as engines are a big money sink).

F2P games are like that. You can do things slow and painful and free, quick with real money, or if you know the ropes, you can at least minimize grind.

Likewise, around Christmas they had one with random prize bits, including MC. A few challenges and you'll end up gradually scraping together enough to keep a decent number of 'Mechs and not go crazy.

It's also worth noting that elite-leveling a 'Mech matters, as it doubles the effectiveness of basic skills- and mastering one means you've got an extra mech/weapon module slot unlocked. Both can considerably improve a chassis's performance.
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>>128501425

Get dunked.
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>kaelus probably won the lotto and now is gonna go make his own KONG
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>>128474945
Nothing has to be wrong. People still play the game and have fun.
>>128475910
preach
>>128475501
bait
>>128476078
>mech design is garbage
>mechs are literally garbage
You did learn something from the game!
>>128482335
>opinion=fact
>>128481781
The big picture for hawken was always more mechs and more playstyles. Were the tech and incin balanced poorly? Yup.
>>128485179
They're only a problem in servers with players that are new or don't know what to do about it. Every tech on a team is the weakest link in the chain. Incins aren't that grand unless the pilot is.
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>>128390887
So is the mumble button supposed to be grayed out or what?

pinging works fine.
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>>128508761
>It's also worth noting that elite-leveling a 'Mech matters
It helps but... it's not super noticable. I mastered one of my lights and other than going slightly faster than my other light lancers I barely notice much of a difference.
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>>128509189
well shit nevermind it's working now.
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Just how are you supposed to use PPCs? It never seems like they do very much even when I hit consistently.
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>>128509380
Speed tweak is a huge deal for lights and then you got stuff like better cooling/turning. For bigger robots the extra agility is a very big and noticeable boost, especially stuff like torso twist.
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>>128510681
They are one of the few weapons that have a minimum range. If you're within 100 meters they do no damage unless they're ERPPC's.
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fuck the whammy
fuck the archer

RIFLEMAN
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I still don't understand how to join specific units and at this point I'm too afraid to ask
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>>128512705
You literally have to ask to join units, is the thing. Ask someone in the specific unit if you can join.
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Every fucking time, Viridian Bog. Only place to make my computer want to melt.
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>>128513798
What kind of toaster do you have?
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hey dudebot, your faggot normie faggot base faggot lol is getting demolished

lol
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>>128513954
one with a computer that needs an external fan for some reason, maybe it didn't come with a good heating system, idk.
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>>128514015
Ok.
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What's the best blackjack variant?
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>>128516085
all of them
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>>128511873
>wanting a shitter Jaegermech
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http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=4&l=892b0f5788a258b36188dd0bc49db1ab352c3454
r8 my shitscraps jenner
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>brush off lurmboat
>average 3 KMDD a match

lmao
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>>128516973
Ditch the AMS, swap the smalls for small pulse, upgrade to an XL300 and drop in two more heat sinks. Who the hell are you baiting?
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>>128517128
suuuure, turboshitter, let's just shit out all the cbills in the world for a fucking xl300
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>>128517623
Are you trolling just to bump the thread? There's plenty of other ways.
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I really hate lasers and like ballistics, what is a good mech with a lot of dakka (not necessarily missiles).
Also, what is the correct nomenclature, I always say Blueberry Pie for B sections.
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>>128517792
all right, fine, then how about this build
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=58&l=98e009b2819799cb5c683a3ecea2b1886f862f2d
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>>128517916
What class and IS or clam?
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>>128518154
Don't know the difference bro, I'm new. Been playing a Dragon for a while.
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>>128518014
Your AMS ammo isn't CASE protected. 3/10
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>>128505025
Russ is super excited to have the Warhammer in the game even though it in no way represents his nostalgia fueled vision of the Mech.

>here guys, give us money for this lego that we call a warhammer even though you will never see it in first person view anyway
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>>128514663
x ray isnt even a real rank in our shit wtf
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>>128516973
>Side torso and legs not at full HP
>head still has 16 armor
>STD engine
>not full JJs with only a half-ton armor
>AMS in a game where nobody uses lurms anyway
>AMS on a light that generally isn't with its team anyway
>not 6 smalls or 6 SPL but mixed wtf lol
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>>128516973
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=4&l=612e2fa10e7a709c97858223ed371c38666e8786

I can't remember if the minimum ass armor was 8 or 7 against an AC20, but whatevs. If your boipussy is eating autocannons, you probably deserved it
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>>128518302
IS(inner sphere) are the green darb mechs. Cheap to accuire, but with shit tech that needs upgrading, like double headsinks. Hardpoints are fixed per variant but everything else is customizable. Clan mechs are the silver ones. Expensive to buy, but with all the good stuff pre-installed. Can swap out whole mech parts(like an arm and its hardpoints), but the rest (mainly engine) is hard wired.

>assault
Dire whale, king crab and mauler are the kings of dakka. There is one banshee variant that can do it, too.
>heavies
Jager is the premier dakka IS heavy.
Most clan heavies can do dakka fine. Timber wolf, hellbringer and ebin jag.
>medium
Blackjack for IS. Maybe hunchback, but blackjack is just op.
Clan mediums lack large ammounts of ballistic hardpoints(except for shadowcat, and its shit), but the stormcrow can load 1 big ballistic and is overall just stronk.
>light
Does not do dakka.
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>2016
>I'd still suck a cock for PIG to just doublestack SRM's on the Timber so that it didn't look like hot garbage

They can keep their cancer tumors for more LRM's if they want to but just holy fuck why they not just split the normal ear in half for SRM's. They could keep the iconic look and everything. Fucking hell.
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First time with MWO, any tips?

Anybody else ever get to use the pods? There was a center near me that I got to use once but never got a chance to go back before it closed down
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>>128520023
>Dire whale
I really should get one because of how much firepower they can have but I'm afraid I'm just too addicted to fast.
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>>128522104
Because fuck you.

>>128522321
Lots of tips. Complete the tutorial. ALL OF IT.
Turn off arm lock, enable throttle decay, hope you have a mouse with extra buttons! Don't spend any C-Bills till you check with this thread first. Use smurfy to your advantage to build, and confer with others the viability of that build, BEFORE you spend any C-Bills. Read the Manual before use. Are you versed in BT lore enough to know the difference between Clan and IS? If not, look into it. DO NOT ENTER FACTION PLAY UNTIL YOU ARE READY. It is the End Game, unless you have a unit who's going to drop with you in a group to help you grind shit out.
Speaking of which, WELCOME TO THE GRIND. C-Bills are precious, and long earned. It is absolutely necessary to max out a Mech's Skill Trees, and to do so you'll have to own three variants of that chassis. Buying them you have to take into consideration the actual cost vs the price on the screen; IS mechs generally cost twice what they're listed because you'll need to buy their upgrades in engines, weapons, equipment, structure, and in semi rare cases armor.
I think that pretty much covers it. First 25 games are in the underhive, they'll be pretty fun, and the trial mechs aren't total garbage anymore.

Missed out on those pods, but VR hits this year, it'll be infinitely better.
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>>128522871
>Turn off arm lock
Going to disagree with this one. Some mechs do better with arm lock on. Just remember its there if you do need to shoot at something outside your torso range, if appliable.
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>>128522871
>>128523096
Better advice is to change the "enable arm movement" bind to toggle arm lock, and just set arm lock to whatever you want. Best of both worlds
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>>128522871
>Do not enter faction play until you are ready
Except this is only way to get more mech bays, so throw that advice out the window.
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>>128523430
It's not the end all single only way to get more mech-bays. Expedient? Maybe. Except for when it's dead, you're up against 12 mans, or are forced to run nothing but trials. When Satan smiles in your general direction it's all of the above combined.
So most of the time it's pretty effectively useless to you even for mechbay grinding. I hate to say it but, if you find this game any fun at all, it's probably worth it to feed the pig just enough for MC to buy mech-bays to at least have a marginally faster time mech grinding. Maybe when the giant CW update hits with 4v4 and other shit this Spring it'll be less of a shit fest for new/free players.
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>>128523734
>spending money on any free to play game
>ever
This is so wrong and stupid it hurts. Not even once. No reason not to just grind out the 10 rank 2 mech bays in faction warfare, wins mean nothing and taking it so seriously is embarrassing.
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>>128522871
Thanks for the useful information!

Should I save up for something at first or spend my starting cash on a medium mech? Should I enter faction with just my dinky 2 laser starter?
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>>128525002
Wait until you've completed all your cadet bonus matches so that you'll have around 20 million C-Bills and will have played enough to start understanding what you like and want from a mech. Try out every trial mech multiple times. Definitely don't rush into spending, you won't be getting money quickly after the first 25 matches.
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>>128524640
Man, it's like you didn't even read my post at all, just got hung up on the "feed the pig" part and your autism instantly sprung into action.

>>128525002
Your Cadet bonus earnings after the first 25 and Tutorial should be enough for a medium if you want one.
Faction Play requires 4 mechs to play with, and like I said, unless you're dropping with a group that's going to help you, then your 4 mechs need to be decked out as much as possible.

You CAN play Faction Play with trials, it just won't be as fun, and your grind will be longer and more annoying to you.
Again, when the CW update hits this Spring it might be more open to new players than it is now.
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>>128525256
>>128525167
Shit I didn't see the other trial ones. Too tired, shouldn't have signed up when I did
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>>128418714
wow a whole 600 damage
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>reading up about Sniper Raven

Holy shit, is this still as good as people were saying it was?
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Good thread. Lots of very useful advice, 10/10.
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>>128529040
That's the RVN-4X variant with the range/duration quirks on it, right? Yeah it's still pretty good. I don't see them very often much so maybe they were better at some other time.
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>>128529594
The build I'm looking at is 3L with EMC and 2 ERLL.
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>>128530632
I use it. It's fine. Raven x4 is fine, too. I like 2 LPL on it.
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Honestly, if you fuck up your money by buying the wrong shit, just make a new account. You get 8 days of premium time again, and you can get a ton of money early on.
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>did 515 damage in my SPL Firestarter
>spent the first half of the match doing fucking nothing but spotting because it's that one map where everyone camps highway and I didn't think to flank around
>Still did more damage than ANYONE else on the team
What the fuck? Seriously, what the fuck?
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>playing trial cheetah
>backcap the enemy's starting point
>get smashed up to half health trying to run away
>enemy cheetah decides to chase me down
>I jump over him and shoot him in the back while he powers down from heat
>climb up the hill and kill a DW
>run back to the point and kill the last guy on their team, who was trying to re-cap it
I really can't understand why everyone doesn't play light mechs. Movement is more complex, the game isn't suddenly all about standing still and firing missiles halfway across the map. And when you're small, nobody seems to expect that you'll run around behind them and kill them in a couple of bursts.
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>>128539417
>I really can't understand why everyone doesn't play light mechs.

Because lights can't do shit unless your teammates wear down the enemy first.
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So for clan mechs, are all 4 types interchangeable? The A/B/C shit seems to change the omnipods, but you can mix and match those to your liking anyway. Is it just for the sake of a different name and a different starting set of pods?
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>>128540675
Yep.

The only part of the clan omnimech you can't change is the center torso.

Some clams have no difference in their CT so it doesn't matter which one you own and you pick those based on which one has the omnipods you'd rather not have to buy.
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Going to buy the mad dog to lrm boat with (lol), but can it do anything else worthwhile like brawl or whatever?
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>>128541164
srm shotgun
streak dog
Asymetrical build with weapons on 1 side

You should buy a Loki
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Hello?
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>steam kids keeping the thread alive in 2016.

Wow.
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>>128545403
The steam peak players is sub 4k.
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Guys is mwo p2w?
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>>128545403
The game was an awful piece of shit back when I played it in the beta, now it's pretty fun.

Thanks for beta testing it, I guess?
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>>128548403
>there are mechs (core gameplay) that can only be bought with real money currency
Yes, you are paying for a possible advantage that free players can't get. You'll argue that they aren't the most meta mechs, but the principle still holds up.
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>>128539417
Because people want something that can go toe to toe and not die in 2 hits. Lights are for more patient players who are willing to hide and wait for most of a match until the time is right to run in and strike. This is dangerous and requires thought when most people just want to sit and snipe or launch rockets for free kills without any chance of dying.
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wew
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ded game ded thread
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I guess the event kicked in?
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>>128555474
No that's just mah dick

You like?
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>>128555582
I dunno, can barely feel it.
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>Team doesn't communicate at all
>I start taking charge, calling targets, announcing locations, etc
>team still won't listen
>"god damn dude do you ever shut up? I've been playing a month I don't need a scrub telling me what to do
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>>128555947
He's right. Tryhard armchair general faggots aren't welcome. If you're just going to try to yell and boss people around (what neckbeards often confuse for leadership, especially the ones who play games like this and ARMA) then you're just going to get ignored. I certainly don't take orders from the likes of you and never will. I'm here to get kills and have fun, if you're going to do that then don't even bother turning on your mic.
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>>128556435
>>128555947
>just slogged through a round where we literally got surrounded 3 minutes in on whatever podunk fucking city the map is called I don't give a fuck
>enemy blatantly behind us, everyone pools onto it, lets the enemy in front of us prior to that just come by and become the enemy behind us, tearing us apart

braindead fucktards do not get a say in what they should or should not do, they should follow orders and be happy that someone is at least attempting to think for them.
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>>128555653
In Breaking News: Cannon fire was heard near Anon's house there is no word of survivors. Person who fired these cannons can only be described as absolutely savage
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>>128556435
I just had a game on Forest Colony where my lance consisting of me in a Thunderbolt, two Atlases and a Direwolf had all but one other member of the team die out compared to the 3 kills we got on them.

We took cover in a mountain pass 300 style and held off the other team, pulling through with a timeout and one less death than them.

All because someone communicated that it was the best idea to hold position and call out targets. We would have lost easily had we ran out there.
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>>128557174
>We would have lost easily had we ran out there.
So what? What's a loss among hundreds of matches
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>>128557261
What's one guy attempting to help the whole team compared to the hundreds of lone wolves?
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>>128557174
That's not the same as someone trying to be commanding and failing, that's just helpful communication.
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>>128557456
Thats all that guy said he was doing in his post. >Call out targets and announcing locations.
Instead someone bitch him out for attempting even that much.

At least, that's what I gathered from his post. If he wishes to clarify further then that's his own prerogative.
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>>128557360
What's one homeless person yelling the world's going to end
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>>128557880
Someone putting more effort in spreading information about what they truly believe is going to happen then the rest of us.

Life is about how much work you are willing to put into it. Half assing things just because there is another day generally won't get you places. Same applies in game. How are you to improve if you don't put in the effort to do so?
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>>128557661
The tone and wording of his post struck me as someone who was less than helpful and in my experience people don't generally get told to shut up unless they're being an asshole. I know the type well and I have a low tolerance for it, but I probably did overreact pretty badly. Obviously there needs to be teamwork, but there's a right and wrong way to go about it and "taking charge" of strangers and getting mad when they have no interest in listening to you isn't the right way. It's silly to expect people playing a video game to follow your orders because that requires respect. Why would I stop doing my own thing just because some guy I've never met keeps trying to tell me what to do? I wouldn't.
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>>128558530
>getting mad when they have no interest in listening to you isn't the right way
I think they were implying someone that's played for only a month calling them a scrub is what made him mad.
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does MWO have a youtube poster boy?
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The B33F

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTlXw2qGB2w
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After playing a few trial games I have one question

How many autocannons can I have on one mech? I want all these autocannons
>trial King Crab
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Why is the machine gun more fun than should be allowed?
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>>128560073
Ballista Hardpoints are your concern
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>>128560073
go with the 000 and run quad AC/5
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>>128560359
because it isn't and you should uninstall if you're using one
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Almost a thousand damage in a light mech.
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>>128509380

Eliting a 'Mech completely also doubles the effects of the basic skills as well.

Given, PGI has left the Mech skills alone for so long one of the elite skills is literally nothing more than a 3000xp sink, as "Pinpoint" literally does absolutely nothing since they had to make convergence instant and perfect anyway. Do it last as a result.

A fully elite'd 'Mech is more agile, cools faster, and believe me- it helps. You'll notice it more with experience.
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Shit event. I KNOW I had enough most damage kills in both the Splatcrow and Executioner games. I still got a consumable pack anyway. Cool shot 6s, ooooh.
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>>128539417

Light 'Mechs are mobile and good at wearing down stuff...

...on the other hand, one annoyed Streakcrow or someone with good aim and you're scrap metal. That being said, lights ARE a big thing, and a good light pilot is a valuable thing.

Just remember that the really competent pilots in the big robots can ruin your shit in a hurry and you need those distractions to get your guns in where they'll do the most good.
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>>128555947

Pugs are pugs because honestly, they're where the Rambo population accumulates.

People who would actually listen tend to end up in group queue/units/CW, and by comparison solo queue is more like a scrimmage than an actual team play.
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>>128562738
I probably would notice a difference once I master more mechs, but the next one I would like to master, Executioner is a bit expensive to do that with. I'm sure the Agility and cooling is way more noticable on that one since mine runs hot.
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>>128563153
Yeah, surprise, they fucked up the tick. Just check your total progress at the bottom, that one's accurate
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So, ive got a question about the faction play thing.
when you are in the queue it allows you to customise the mechs and choose which ones you are going to take.

i have two mechs and for some reason, i can only choose one.

its not like an optional choice either, i just outright cant see/select my Raven
any idea why?
im probably being retarded.

before you say, yes ive checked the tonnage limitations and that shouldnt have anything to do with the fact that i cant SEE my mech, yet alone select it.
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>>128566715
you are in a clan, the raven is an inner sphere mech
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>>128549231
The best mechs aren't cash-only robbits. What cash ro-butts do for the most part is reduce your c-bill grind by 30%. Otherwise, real money just gives you early access to mech releases.

HOWEVER, PGI has a habit or releasing mechs with very good quirks/no negative quirks, and once they become available for c-bills, those advantages are nerfed somewhat. Usually, however, a mech that starts good stays good, it just isn't quite as overpowered once the c-bill nerfbat hits it.
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>>128566807
that is where im being retarded, thanks my man
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how do you do a private game? A friend wants to try his new build without having to fuck up a live game for everyone if it sucks
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>>128568713
You need Premium time to do private lobbies
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>>128560027
Ebin
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start mastering shadow cat or buy modules?

also is there a unit for MWO, all my friends are dead already

>>128560073
if you want to make a living out of it you can run 4-5 on dire wolf and just swap omnipods as you buy new variants
dire wolf is really expensive though
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>mfw just won a match singlehandedly, got all three of our team's kills and captured the enemy base while everyone else was distracted
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are there video games here
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>>128573603
>run 4-5 on dire wolf
Fuck that noise, you can have 6 UAC5s on a Dire wolf. Or a mix of UAC10s and UAC5s.
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>>128578163
There are no games. Only people destined to destroy communities.

Also shitposting
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>>128579007
On one hand you have Greg, who is dopey and annoying but still okay to be around when you tell him to tone it down; on the other hand you have Kaelus, who is a smug Californian who always assumes he's right regardless of the topic and immediately starts to patronize everyone who disagrees with him.

If I had to pick one I'd choose Greg. If I could, I'd pick neither.
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>>128579007
IT'S JUST A JOKE BRO.

You're all literally cancer.
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>>128580014
>if I could, I'd pick neither
then make a new discord and ban them both on sight
usher in a new era and maybe this general will stop being so dead
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>>128580014
>>128580160
Good news! By the grace of Lowtax, we have recieved enough funding for a brand-new Discord server!

https://discord.gg/0lYbgIH17OeggsCL

All are welcome (except kaelus)
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so i just started to play MWO
>1st mech is shit
>slow and hits weak
>2nd mech is slow but hits harder
>lost the game and did shit damage
>3rd mech i make is a 4x flamer thats fast
>win game with a lot of damage being done
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>>128580509
Oh Jesus, please don't be real.
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>>128581146
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>>128581906
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rip dashing
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>>128582385
Isn't that just a default Firestarter or something?
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>>128582385
i have now switched to M lasers
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>>128582869
No, even the default Firestarter at least has back up lasers.
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>>128583423
You need double heat sinks, and probably a new engine.
Why are you not using the trial mechs and racking up your cadet bonus? You fucked that up now it seems.
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>>128583573
well i just started what did you expect. a complete scrub min maxing ?
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>>128583706
I guess I didn't expect someone to jump into something not know what they were doing. I occasionally have to remind myself not to lower my standards, but abandon them altogether.

So you bought a Firestarter, yeah? Which one?
Bordering on irrelevant since you should be completing your first 25 with trials anyway. How did you even buy the firestarter?
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>>128584014
i never said i did, i got a locust
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>>128584316
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>>128584316
>locust
Make a new account, bro.
Next time play 25 games with trail mechs, chech aut what class of mechs you enjoy(light, medium, heavy or assault) and then ask what's good to buy, or just go here: http://metamechs.com
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In Operation Exodus an unknown number of Konglets followed General Kaelusrensky into the region of deep space known only as "Discord", towards an unknown destination and future. It was his dream that he and his followers, or most likely their children, would eventually return to Mumble to rescue a devastated Kong and reunite it under a new VOIP.
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>mfw someone in chat in the match I was just in said "they should make MWO figures"
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>Rancor Connected
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It's time to pay to join GONK.

https://twitter.com/russ_bullock/status/687749292447023105
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>>128587069
That doesn't make any sense.
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>>128587360
>Rust Ballsack
>Sense
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>>128587069
Russ is a fucking madman if he thinks people are going to like this.

>>128579007
I like how this image literally has shitpost in the filename.
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>>128585306
whats a good fast mech
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>>128587360
It makes so much sense anon, we tax the players so they can't be in units, that way we don't have 100man units being so strong they dominate everything! It's perfect!

>>128587653
I really don't know exactly what he thinks it's going to do EXCEPT piss people off

Besides doesn't everyone's group have like 200 million coffers anyways thanks to people thinking they'd do something someday?

on another note, here's the Warhammer scale video with a sneak preview of the new snow map at the very end.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZLT9BKgyEA&feature=youtu.be
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>>128563789

I usually tell people to work with heavies or lighter to start with.

Why? Because honestly, it's a lot easier to fuck up in an assault. You're a bigger, slower target that can't take it even if you can dish it out, because even PUGs instinctively tend to focus on those target types and will put more guns your way than you will in return.

If you're gonna start mastering Clantech chassis, go with the Timber Wolf or Ebon Jaguar. They're big, nimble enough that you can get out of trouble, and well balanced in terms of armor and firepower.
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>>128581906

>flamers
>standard heat sinks
>damage

Troll harder.
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>>128589246
or i could of just blundered that hard
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>>128587069
that's probably his new "unit coffers are useful" idea
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>>128589082
Yeah I'm a hardcore clanner, always have been. Executioner is probably one of my most successful mechs as a whole though. Kit Fox was my first master.
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What are some good DW builds using UAC/20s?
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>>128589082
>If you're gonna start mastering Clantech chassis, go with the Timber Wolf or Ebon Jaguar.

Different anon here, what about the Mad Dog? I've been playing IS since I began playing a few weeks back and I'm thinking about buying my first clan heavy. Mad Dog gets a few mentions on and off, so I'm thinking about it.

...sadly whatever I go with I'd be tempted to boat LRMs or go as long range as possible.
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>>128590653
>using the memewolf
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>>128590653
Not on the Direwolf. It's way too slow to be brawling with. UAC20s are useless past 450 meters.
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>>128591004
The Ebon Jaguar is your guy if you want to go nuts with missiles.
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>>128591240
Mad dog is better for that, and has more potential for second weapons. All the pods with missiles don't have much else for the Jag.
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>>128580014
Why does one have non-alchoholic drinks but the others have what looks like vodka.
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>>128592226
Because Kvass.
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Imagine the lolz that could be had with the whale if we had RACs. clan uac2/5 already look like that for some fucking reason.
ghostheat
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anybody wanna grind some of the event together?
tiers 2 and above, no shitters.
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>>128593552
>tiers 2 and above, no shitters.
>implying the tier system isn't broken as fuck
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https://www.instagram.com/mechwarrioronline/

More of the new map, top three videos
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>>128593552
The tier system means fuck all.
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Cataphract 3D y/n?
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Maximum bullying
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>>128594449
So now it's Hoth.
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>>128594940
no, buy an ebon jag instead and run 3xCUAC5 and 5ERSL
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>>128594449
Thanks senpai

>gee billy, what did everyone about the old alpine
>assaults are fucked 100% of the time if they dont win the mountain rush?
>exactly! Lets put a shit ton of rocks to get stuck on to fuck em up even more

At least it looks kind of nice with the environment effects. Hopefully it will be a -2 temp map.

>not a remade alpine
Inb4 double position change
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>>128595389
It's not a remade Alpine, Alpine is staying in, this is being added, it's a completely new map from ground up.
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>Been doing well with my Zeus
>Buy an AWS 9M because i like the idea
>Can't survive 3 seconds, everyone punishes me hard, have the hitbox the size of the Berlin Wall, stock equipment is shit, PPCs are shit, XL engine on a matress looking bigass mech is the worst fucking idea

Did I get meme'd on or is there a redeeming build for this 11m cbills piece of shit
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>>128593630
>>128594451
tier 5 peasants detected
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>>128596094
If you want to keep on pushing into it, the awesome is actually one of the best mechs. You'll need to go another 15M in until you see the real benefits unfotunately. Also the 9M is actually kindof garbo compared to the 8R and 8Q.

Highly recommended against doing this as a new player, but if you are a meme master, go ahead
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>>128596456
Well that's fucking stupid then. Is the Highlander worth it now that it's on discount?
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>>128596658
no
get banshees or energy battlemasters
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>>128596658
No. I ran one for a bit after I bought it on sale expecting something like the Atlas but with Jumpjets. Was more fragile than my Executioner was.
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I hope we can agree on this.
>good, shitter friendly IS assault
banshee
battlemaster
stalker
>good, but not shitter friendly
atlas
king crab
>somewhere between very situational and trash
the rest
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Warhawk so strong only I can kill myself
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>trying to convince myself to get 10 kills a day so I can get the paints
ahhhh
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>>128598404
What's the problem? I usually get two or three per game.
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>>128596456
how 2 Awesome in 3 easy steps:

>http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=14&l=9bc6b6ce7706ea4c47c79f7cdb325987d6e3b93e

tank everything with your left side, you have enough heat capacity and dissipation to afford to alpha as long as you are not on terra therma or some bullshit hot map

>http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=32&l=9dae1da6308ef01b933f4afa9e202fa67a6cce1a

fast awesome, if you have the balls and are really good at torso twisting you can go ahead and put a big xl in there and be the fastest nigga around (if you put an xl you can fit 2 medium lasers in the empty hardpoints, but i still dont recommend it)

>http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=15&l=9aa48faff20163c1903cd7067070f806a9aa9279

ancient glorious splatcake, wait for the right moment, charge tanking with left arm until you are close enough, then brawl their asses off in close quarters

im not gonna post the lrm-pocalypse 8R because its a misterious build and only dudebot knows how to make it work

(before you start with >hurr durr back armor, i cba to change the back armor values, only maxed it and shaved some off the legs and arms as needed, you should use whatever front armor/rear armor ratio you feel comfortable with)
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>>128598520
welp, meant to reply to this guy here

>>128596094
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Why does this pop up all the damn time?
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>>128598520

>
im not gonna post the lrm-pocalypse 8R because its a misterious build and only dudebot knows how to make it work

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=15&l=f4400676cdbb75a2863e75d55bfacde103244e9e
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>>128599360
>Two Tags
The madman.
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>>128598124
do you have a slot?
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>>128599937
yes
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>>128600130
who is group leader?
i dont have mumble installed but i wanna play some robots
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>>128600892
add ign "dudebot"
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>comment that I want to take the overpass/saddle on Crimson Strait
>guy in the MAL starts calling
>he's actually incredibly helpful and his precise calling probably saves my ass
Matches like this are the best. It doesn't even matter that he only did 179, he coordinated our entire team in a beautiful push.
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>>128600892
>>128601119
FUCK OFF PARDO
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goodbye /gerg/
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BRB taking my dog to church - random konglet who dropped out of group
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Wow, I think I'm in love
>someone tells me I just carried the team
>I didn't do THAT good, did I?
>after battle score pops up
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>caustic valley conquest
>oh great
>go kappa with 2, one person in our lance runs the other direction, enemy team gets there before us
>get picked off one after the other
>look at scoreboard
>our team has capped no points and probably just all rushed to theta then decided not to engage when they saw the enemy

does this ever end
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>>128604221
What build?
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>>128605014
Standard Laser Skirmisher I picked up off of Metamechs. Runs a little bit hotter than I'd like it to, but it shreds through rear armor like nothing else.
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=79&l=2687fc03fe4f9997c47f545bd15d5c7d1fae93af
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two groups
kongstronk
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>>128599251
RIP lobby
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What's THE LRM pissboat?
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>>128608649
catapult painted turd brown or piss yellow
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>kong 12 man
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>14 kongers in the iDOL dome
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Such lust for robots.
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>>128605916
>>128609421
>>128610093
>>128610172
>still playing this turd of a game

Every day in every way you disappoint me Kong
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>>128610564
Mad cuz bad.
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>15 konglings sitting in a room

It's 2015 all over again
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So I got this free shitcaida are there any half decent builds for it
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>>128612558
it's konglet you double nigger
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>>128612906
The build it comes in is just fine, but alter the armor values.
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>>128613281
ok thanks
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>>128612906
6 flamers. No armor. No engine. No heatsinks. HEAVEN OR HELL LET'S ROCK
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>King Crab with camo and paint
>he has three LRM 15s
>he just alpha strikes his missiles until he overheats
>as soon as he restarts, he alphas his LRMs and powers down again
>he literally doesnt even attempt to aim, he struggles to move the cursor to get a lock and then doesn't attempt to keep said lock
>he doesn't move his King Crab at all, it travels maybe 500m the entire match
>when the enemies close in on him, he literally cannot even hit them with his MGs
What the fuck is wrong with these people?
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>>128614424
>King Crab with camo and paint
>has dual ac/20s and a er large laser
>double firing the ac/20s at targets 600m away, missing every time because they're walking slowly
>never see him fire the laser

Man I don't even know
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Best mech for LRM boating? Or best mech for long range anything?

I'm too nervous to try brawling.
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>>128615918
Catapult
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>>128587069

Oh, Russ, never stop being you.
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>>128618152
When are you getting your headset so you can play video games again
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>>128618848

Tomorrow or monday. Hopefully tomorrow. My brother came by and took back his headset, so all I've got now are some shitty earbuds.
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Just started playing and the catapult is so much fun until I get rushed and die.
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#fuckoffgreg
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http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=213&l=5222bc4d3cee641dc854b0a7a7e51f709d3ca574

Is this how Mad Dog's boat LRMs? Also is it worthwhile to change the lasers to mediums lasers and cram on more ammo?
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>>128620658
drop to normal meds, put art on the lurm 5's. more ammo, less sinks.
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>>128620658
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=213&l=be1e7b1386b4cbc85fe2829bf04ec9ba157d179d
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Any good long range DW builds? I seem to get chewed up mid range so I want to be able to hang back and snipe
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>>128621256
LPL's, Gauss, ERLL's, a combination of the aforementioned.
This isn't exactly hard to figure out.
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>>128621473
>enemy direwolf with 8+ ERLL sitting at the back of HPG while the rest of his team just gets melted
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Explain to me why some people actually go to trouble of using aimbots in this dead fucking game?
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>>128622140
Also I didn't mean to quote anybody, oops.
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>>128622202
I find that it's the dead games that have the most cheating and hacking in them. Because at that point even the devs don't give a fuck. Like they literally become nothing but exploiters fighting each other, unrestricted, with every hack imaginable.
It made Call of Duty: World at War a little interesting at the end of it's life for a bit when lobbies were like that. DayZ Mod too. Nothing but people flying around the map at light speed instant head shots on anything and everything.
It got so bad that they had to finally take action when they decided to stupidly throw in World at War with Blops II as like a special bonus.
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>>128622202
Because no one is there to stop them and because shitty people who cheat in games are shitters trying to make themselves feel better about not having any skills
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What's the oldest mech lore wise you can pilot in MWO?
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>>128623650
Orion, maybe?
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>>128623860
Yeah, it's the Orion.
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>>128623650
The Black Knight, probably.
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mechwarrior for Linux ever?
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>>128624308
Orion production year: 2456
Black Knight: 2578
Sadly no.

>>128624431
Pfff ahaha
No.
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>>128623650
>>128624242
>>128624503
Banshee.
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>>128625142
Nope.
Production year 2475.
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>>128625293
Sarna page says 2445.
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>>128625354
It lists both dates, and even says they stopped production of them.
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>>128625142
>>128624503
>>128624242
>>128623650
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Mackie
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>4 kills (3 solo)
>5 kill assists
>645 damage done
>lost the match due to base cap
>pilot skill didn't move
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>>128626717
Oh wait he said in MWO well fuck its the Banshee then
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>>128625293
Introduction year was 2475 production year for Banshee was 2445
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>>128623650
The factual answer is Orion or Banshee
The correct answer is Urbanmech
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The banshee is the oldest robot in the game. It was part of the mackie generation.

The one we have in the game is of the 'modern' 2600~ variety, but all variants currently in MWO are no older than the 2700s.

Another two ancient robots are the commando and the orion. All three predate the 2500s.
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>>128628065

The mechs in Mechwarrior are supposed to have been in operation for almost 500 years? Wat?

These are just the same designs they've been making and slightly tweaking for 500 years right? Not the actual same actual mechs that were in use 500 years ago are still being used?
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>>128628992
Both.
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>>128628992
During the Succession wars mechs became so rare that they were passed down through familes and the same mech was used for hundreds of years. It was only about the 3000s that they really started to get to where they could properly maintain and produce mechs again.
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>>128628992

Blame Comstar.
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>>128628992

Before 3030, a mechwarrior almost certainly was using the family robot that had been passed down since the 2700s.

By 3050, the houses had either bought out most private mechwarriors, or raised mech armies of their own from newly built factories, forming new armies in the style of the ancient star league. Then the clans invaded, and shit got real very fast.
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>>128448501
I prefer the CN9-D, I run the same AC+SRM12 combo, but you get more tonnage for ammo and the DPS is higher with modules. You don't get pinpoint damage but it's amazing for bullying lights and harvesting innards because of the sheer amount of buckshot you can pump into people; 1dmg per pellet randomized onto each component doesn't matter much when you can put 50+ pellets on target in a short period and shred everything in the segment.
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So are the basic cbill colors a one time cost to unlock them on all mechs or do you have to sell you're liver every time you want to paint a mech?
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>>128630594
One time cost.
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>>128466168
>I also have a SHD-2D for if I actually want to play with some SRMs
2K is the meme build. ASRM18, 3ML.
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>>128498612
>>128503909
>tfw I stole his critvomit 2H build and have been stomping faces with it ever since
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how good is the ebony jaguar
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Just recently started MWO, did a bunch of matches with trial mechs and got 15 mil credits or whatever and just bought a bunch of on sale mechs.

Bought blackjack BJ-1, summoner B and Firestarter FS9-A

Any of these any good or are they shitter mechs
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>>128637435
summoner's not that good, consider getting a timberwolf if you want a good clan heavy
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>>128640265
>clan
>good
:)
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>>128644578
fite me
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>>128610172
Accurs3D?
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>>128566715
Why would you ever pick the non-champion ones.

I can see you're a fucking scrub, because you're making a retarded decision.

Here's your trials-only deck where you WON'T get demolished instantly:

Arctic cheetah (c), Stormcrow (C), Timber Wolf (C), Dire Wolf (C).

Then substitute the dire wolf with one of your first owned clan mechs, either a timber wolf, a hellbringer or an ebon jaguar. Do not, under any circumstance, pick the damned Ebon Jaguar EBJ-C trial, unless you LIKE being a fucktoy cumdump to any enemy player.
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So i bought a nova prime and it had a lot of lasers on it. unequped half of them and swaped them for heat sinks?
did i good semapis?
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>>128646432
you fucked EVERYTHING up
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>>128647613
how so?
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>>128590653

Dropping them for UAC/10s. You need the reach and UAC/20's ghostheat on double-tapping, never mind if you double-tap two at once.

Sadness was watching a virgin Dire Whale walk all the way around the mountain on Alpine while his team died left and right.

Gets to visual range, starts firing his dual UAC/20's as fast as he can at 600m or so.

Shuts down repeatedly. Enemy turns around and vaporizes him after doing under-100 damage.

Just don't. Please. Don't.
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>>128604221

>the Locust gets over 800 damage and a kill for second
>under 200's everywhere

Yeah, you indeed carried hard there. GG.
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>>128616038

Catapults were the original rangeboat, both lurms or Gausscat config.

There are better options.

If you're going IS, Hunchback-4J is a nice little lurmer- can go pretty fast, quirked LRM10s.

IS Heavies? Orions do a good job of lobbing missiles around.

Assaults? The Awesome is still champion missile mattress, but heavies or mediums will serve you better in terms of being mobile enough to reposition. It takes a lot to be able to get an Awesome to be awesome.

Clanwise, the Mad Dog and Ebon Jaguar, with the Warhawk being an honorable third.
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>>128637435
The Firestarter is the most OP mech in the game when filled with pulse lasers and a big engine. Like stupidly powerful and maneuverable. It's still made of paper, but the trick is just don't get fucking hit.

It's a flea in assault's balls. It's the backstabber in the night. It's a fucking melting pot of human hatred made mech. I don't know if they will change it, but against shitters and even decent pilots it's a bullshit to deal with.
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>>128654663
Is there any reason in particular why they made AC/20's seem so useless.
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>>128637435

The bad part here is you really need to do 3 of a single chassis type at a time so you can skill em up to their fullest potential. That is, it'd have been better to get 3 Blackjacks, or 3 Firestarters.

Also, almost all of the IS 'Mechs need to be significantly upgraded- engines, endosteel, double sinks, etc. Burning your entire cadet bonus on chassis without upgrades was a painful move you're gonna end up having to catch up on.

Sorry you didn't ask here sooner.
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>>128655721

They're not useless, but they're not a gun you strap multiples on and go to town with. Also, you have to bring them to bear- and Dire Whales are the slowest thing in Clan arsenals. Short range gun + slow-ass 'Mech = SHOOT ME FIRST sign.

There are plenty of cases a single UAC/20 is OK, though- usually as a single main gun for a brawlish type. Hellbringers with a UAC/20 + ERMLs for example.
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>>128656031
Good to know, I'm a noob and I wanted to try running something with dual UAC/20's or maybe just regular AC/20's cause it sounded kind of cool, are there any builds where that's possible and still effective, or is it just a bad idea over all?
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>>128656474

Dual -standard- AC/20s runs a little hot but is doable- Jagermechs are the most common design for that. Basically, firing 2 AC/20's (or in a UAC's case, 2 SHOTS) will trigger heat above and beyond the normal amount for each gun past the limit. That's why dual UAC/20's hurt- you get "ghost heat" firing both at once, and if you double-tap, it's soon enough that it triggers extra heat on both guns on top of what you'd normally expect firing them.

It's why a single UAC/20 is usually enough- even that along will throw up some ghost heat.

Jagermechs (and to a lesser extent, Maulers) can pull off the dual AC/20 mode just fine, with the relatively low amount of extra heat for just two shots at a time. So can King Crabs.

What you usually see with 'Mechs is they'll go with the most efficient ballistics in multiples rather than smaller numbers of big guns. That's why you frequently see IS 'Mechs with large numbers of AC/5 or UAC/5's, and Clan ballistic carriers tend towards UAC/5 or UAC/10's. While each gun may not do as much damage on a single hit, they combine for a respectable amount and 4 AC/5's will get two shots off faster repeatedly for 40 damage total than two AC/20's do. And run cooler doing it.
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>>128656474
Perfectly servicable, you kill people heavy and below in 2 salvos, so just pop out, alpha, reverse up, wait for heat, pop out again and get your kill.

YMMV if you cant aim for shit.
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>>128657454
Alright sounds good, thanks.
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>>128658052
>you kill people heavy and below in 2 salvos

Do not tell lies anon
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>>128391924
Who the fuck preorders IS mechs when its unknown what the dam perks are? Some of the variants look decent in terms of hard points but for all you know PGI could completely ruin them with dumb quirks. Fucking loved me some Warhammers in MW:LL too.

Still it can hardly be worse than the Lurm-wagon Archer's that the average idiot of this game will be rolling in come mid-march.
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>>128395083
>fix the shadowcat?

Play MWLL for a game with a SCat that works.
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>>128658439
20dmg + 20dmg + other weapons (at least 10dmg) x 2 salvos = 100 damage.

Not many Heavies that can take that punishment to a side torso and plenty of them fitting XL's and ammo in there. Mediums are completely fucked. As I said, you need to be able to aim.
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>>128659431
>Does now know about the fundamentals of torso twisting
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>>128659838
>torso twisting
>vs an alpha from balistics

Are you retarded?
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>>128659934
>Alpha of ballistics

Ballistics projectiles have travel time
Especially against clan AC you must never forget the fundamentals of torso twisting
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>>128660581
Yes ... however... we're talking about a dual AC/20 alpha strike, fired at the same time, from the same mech. They're GOING to hit the same location, unless you're so close that trying to shove your mechs dick down the enemy mechs throat.
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Blackjacks are on sale and cheap. Seem to have decent slots and quirks, and I've never elited them before. Are they any good? Should I grab a trio of them before the sale ends?
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>>128658762

Nostalgia boners.

I've got an Archer package on order thanks to losing a bet on a bowl game. At least I know I'm getting a lurmboat that can perform like my Cat-2X with better hardpoint locations. And ECM.
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>>128660990

Actually, yes. They're freaking sturdy things with the structure quirks and ballistic/energy hardpoints in nice places. Not superfast, but very solid.
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>>128660774
Yes it is also ONLY 40 damage

Only light mechs who are not moving and hitting someones back might kill
Most mechs that can equip dual ac 20 are also slow you can easily out maneuver them

Have i mentioned the fundamentals of torso twisting
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Anyone mess around with macros?
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=327&l=29c573fc0d0a622765ddb3c7fcc79a8d76b40314
I'm thinking of putting the AC's on a chainfire macro to just hose people with for max heat control and screen shake trolling.
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>>128560027
Always wondered why he talks like that.
It's not an accent or a speech impediment. It's like a filter.
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>>128661798
Here's a macro I made almost 2 years ago for the 5ac2 jaeger. No idea if it still works or how to use it. Timings probably need to be changed too.

Also
>LL Range
>LL Cool___J
>derp

what do
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>>128664564
Oops, forgot the script
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>>128664564

You should buy hill climb.
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Does anyone have the PGI gif with the eye that has sprung out and the flickering lights?
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>>128664805
>10% better
2meme4me

I love it
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>>128664564
>>128664805
Hill Climb is actually a solid choice on that robot if you don't want seismic, anything that goes fast can benefit immensely from it if they don't have JJs tbqh
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>>128665001
CANT COOK THE CRAB
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>>128664962

Of course.

Can't wait for PGI to split CW into solo and group, and institute c-bill fees for joining guilds.
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>>128665310

>dat supersuperior AMS module rig + hillclimb

I want to 12-flamer Nova it to a toasty red and crack it open with butter.
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Some guy was posting about how the graphics are shit, but forgot to turn off helios.

Oops. Hey, wait, a second, didn't PGI say that all cheaters had been banned?
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>>128666464
I love you.
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>>128667387
>pgi
>caring about the state of the game
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>>128666902
Youre just jello of my supersuperior team assisting

>tfw you deplete ams ammo, while completely ass devestating lurm boats
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>>128668189
>yfw it still doesn't give you money or XP
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shitbot stick to the awesome next time lmao
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>>128667387
>Helios still works
>PGI hasnt changed the game enough in 4 fucking years for it to really need to update that much
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>>128669039

Did you get kicked out of your new group, Pardo?
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>>128475501
>>128476949
>>128482335
What happened billy?, did you get your ass dominated so hard that you need to cry and bitch about it in a weebshit site?
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>>128670470

>responding to factually true posts 3 days later.

You guys are just as dead as your game.
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>>128669039
fuck off pardo
:^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^)
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>>128670880
kek
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>>128670762
>checking when someone responds to some shitposting on a dead general.

ayyyy...
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>>128670880
>cowers behind a hill like a faggot the entire game
>comes out only to get the last hit on someone red cored
>takes screenshot

S K I L L
K
I
L
L
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>>128671886

Get braincancer.
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>>128671886
maybe you should git gud

scrub
c
r
u
b
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>>128670394
He did. He told someone to die of brain cancer and they threw him out.
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>>128671886
Hi pardo I see you removed your name to shitpost Dudebot. But we all can see through your lies
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Anyone remember what Jacks maximum dakka build for KGC was? It was like 3ac2 and 3ac5 or some shit.

>>128672339
>ConnorSinclair.webm
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>>128673361
I believe it was 3ac2 and 2 ac5
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>>128672978

Sounds kinda familiar, but I'm sure he hasn't used that meme before.
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Russ' shit decision to split the totally hardcore and epic CW into groups and solos has set fire to the forum.

Why, I would never have guessed. Just wait until they realize they'll be charged millions of c-bills to join units.

It seems 6 months is in fact the hard limit. PGI can last a maximum of 6 months before they set fire to themselves and the community.
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>>128675138
CW is a broken clusterfuck though. After both 228 and MS swapped, clan awoo lost something like 30 planets in a day.

Granted this isn't as bad as
>"lrms are overpowered"
>"lets buff them XDDD"
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Can someone get on Hawken so I don't have to play with horrible noobs
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>>128676029
I wouldn't play Hawken if you paid me to.
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>>128675138
And the fucking retard STILL hasn't ordered to release the summoners missing variants with energy hardpoints in the side torsos! I'd buy the damn Summoner pack with a la carte if I could get those damn energy hardpoints in the side torsos for a 6x energy summoner build!

Instead, that obese cuckoldian that subsists purely on a cocktail of maple suryp and negro semen wants to super quirk the shit clan mech chassis.
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>>128674046
Thought it might be, much obliged.
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>>128676505
this - the if you paid me
if you did however id do it
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>>128669039
>>128670880
I don't pardo was that bad desu
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>>128680248
think*
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>>128661593
So we're back to a single salvo, despite me saying 2 originally, and your own aiming deficiencies causing you to miss?
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>>128675138

Nope, they noticed that too.

I'm beginning to wonder if Paul isn't sustained solely by trolling the playerbase, like some kind of hate-fed lich.
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>>128676505
>>128678458
>MWO isn't so bad it's better than other games r-right meme
It must be difficult to know that you've spent hundreds of hours trying to grind to win in a broken money-grabbing shell of a Mechwarrior game that will never be any better than it is today, meanwhile I already have everything in Hawken unlocked and can enjoy fast-paced, competitive, and well-balanced gameplay whenever I like and don't have to rely on the carrot on a string illusion of progress and spending hours whining about poor design with an online community of similarly duped players in order to pretend that the experience is worth my time. Hawken has been out of development for over a year and it is and always will be a better and more fun game than MWO.
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>>128682924
>and can enjoy fast-paced, competitive, and well-balanced gameplay whenever I like

....AS LONG AS YOU DONT MIND THE LONG ASS QUEUES
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>>128682924
Tried Hawken, got bored of it after about a week.

Still playing MWO though, even though its a "shit game" after several years.
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>>128682924
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Why the fuck is every team I go on at this hour of the day total fucking ass and unable to do fucking anything whats so ever?
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>>128683442
because you're obviously MLG and everyone else is just a scrub compared to your god like prowess
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>>128682924
You write this like the 2 games are mutually exclusive. They're not. You can play both. Idiot fanboy.
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>>128683781
Its not even that, I just expect people to display a modicum of common sense and be able to actually fucking do something instead of having 10 games in a row where we go 0-12.

It's like everyone is falling over fucking dead doing at most 200 dmg. Its fucking pathetic.
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>>128684107
Do you communicate with your team? Try to at least give them pointers if anything. If even one person learns from you they can spread that knowledge, then someone that learned from them can spread it, and so on.
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>>128684107
I had a match where everyone on my team got hoarded around like sheep by the enemy into a killbox where they had the elevated ground. It was fucking laughably sad, and one guy had the gall to mouth off against me for constantly trying to get them to mount any form of counter-attack.

>>128684345
2/10 times they listen.
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>>128684345
If they listen. I give callouts on positions and no one does anything with it. I'm also not one in a position to give advice since I'm still learning the game myself.
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>>128684428
>>128684475
>acquire Austrian accent.
>sound like the fucking Terminator.
>everybody always listens.

My country might have immigrant problems, but at least people do what I tell them to in MWO.
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>>128683442
Idk man. I'm losing almost every match.
I just sarted playing a few weeks ago, after not touching the game for years, so I had to advance through the tiers. The suffering began in tier 3.
I do everything in the book, carry hard but the pugs in my team always suck so fucking hard that it don't matter. Its rusian roulette at this tier. The team that gets the fools, loses.
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>>128684107
You are playing a free to play game. You're probably tryharding against 10 year olds
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>>128684818
I'm still tier 5 because I literally have less than 20 hours gametime

does... does it get worse?
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>>128685385
Most people leave Tier 5 within a couple of matches...

I've got bad news for you anon.
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Warhammer quirks:
http://mwomercs.com/forums/topic/219540-countdown-to-the-warhammer-release-4-days-left/

TANKY AS FUCK.
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>>128685385
In tier 5 and 4 almost every pug is a retard, so you can carry effectively. Starting tier 3 there are enough decent players that you are at he mery of the match maker. Who gets the retards loses and it matters little how well you do if 80% of the team are absolute shitters.
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>>128686064
Its better if you think of matches as ~3v3 withe rest being NPCs.
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>>128686064
Yeah well I would GLADLY fucking have T3 because I just went 2-12 in this match on a god damn assault map where no one kept their lockons for more than 2 seconds causing innumerable LRM salvos to go to pissfuck podunk ass with and no one checking for ecm lights sitting on our asses
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>>128685954
>low slung hardpoints
>visibly extra low slung ppc arms
It's dead, Jim.
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>>128686797
I gave myself a headache
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>>128682924
Hwken, tell me when your game has 62 base Mech chassis in the game all with at LEAST 3 variants on each chassis, and the ability to fully customize the loadout of each, hardpoint permitting. I can wait a few years if you like.
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>>128683921
>You can play both.
>"play" MWO
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>>128688395
You could always play a proper Mechwarrior game.
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>>128688402
If I wanted Hawkens game-play, I'd play CS:GO, given that its practically the same game, focused on the twitch reaction play-style.
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>>128688395
Why? Everyone uses the same cookie cutter builds on every mech. Either LL spam, ML spam, Or ballistic spam. With some mechs being objectively better than others because of quirks.
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>>128688617
kek because you can totally "twitch" with restricted turn rates.
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>>128686705
>>128686797
Have some funny examples of absolute shitters I've had in my team today.
>lbx 10, 2x lrm15 madcat
>4x alrm 10, 4x ml king crab
>2x erppc, 2 lpl king crab
You can't make this shit up.
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>>128688917
My favorite is the 4 LRM10+Art Atlas with a pair of medium lasers.
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>>128689347
It gets better
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>>128689458
I've lost count of all the lrms boating atlases that I've had in my team.
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>>128684823
Properly. Shame too, I really like the game and how it plays.
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got that event done yet boys?
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>>128690515
shit no not when I'm stuck in T5 pugland
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>>128690515
Yep, super easy one that, its just a matter of "dont switch targets constantly you fucking moron" and had it all sorted in under 20 matches.

>>128690569
>T5 pugland
That would make it easier... those dumbasses just stand there taking shots.
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>>128690872
I suppose I should stop using my LRM boat for cheapshit when no one can keep a lockon anyhow and just sit in my ACH-P on top of a mountain ERPPCing
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>>128690974
ERLL*
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>>128675752

CW is utterly beyond saving at this point. Just a waste of everybody's time.

They're supposedly pulling tons of rewards with phase #3, which will do wonders for CW player numbers, I'm sure.
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>>128690974
Locate your balls and roll a brawler mech if you want the event done quickly.

how are you going to get the most damage if you're just jizzing damage over whatever your shitty allies can be bothered to lock in an LRM boat?

How are you going to do it from 900m in an ERPPC shitbox when the enemy you're shooting just has to go back into cover and you're denied putting any more damage onto him?

Ranged meta was 2014.
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>>128691749
muh cbills

But yeah I want a brawler eventually
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>>128645226
Hello? Is this thing on? This is he.

How can I help you?
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whats a good medium clan mech?
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>>128682924

Most of us have everything unlocked in MWO. There's no grind for us, no battle, no nothing. There is only the monthly shitmech release.

Not like hawken is any better, you faggot. It's the same bullshit, but adhesive were forced to remove lots of the grind shortly before steam, and your new developers have so far managed to a) removed the shitty CRT recruit in favor of assault; b) wasted half a year chasing an employee who knows how to work with the SUPER RARE and ULTRA ADVANCED unreal engine 3; c) made some stipid announcement about how they support gay marriage.

Both games are shit, but MWO has players, gets fucking updates, gets patched every two weeks, and has fucking events. It has a community. It has a history. It's an established franchise.

Fuck you, and fuck your dead twice robot game now owned by Reloaded, masters of APB.
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>>128690974
Nigger are you stupid?

Dudebot and I have been using Streak-30 Crows:

The reason for this is two fold:
Damage padding for kill most damage dealt
Raping lights and causing asshurt

You don't even need to aim, just lock on and mouse1. Literally click to win.
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>>128690974
I got a lot of mine just by brawling in my UAC20 Executioner.
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>>128691716
Faction warfare in EVE was probably my favorite thing about the game for 2 reasons: the dosh was absurd, and it forced you into a position where you could actually lose everything.

Since there is no open-world PVP, the whole concept makes no sense from the start. Not to mention I can make just as much now in a super skill cash mech in 6 minutes than waiting 30 minutes.

>>128692170
But you dont have your precious crabs, big black knights, meowlers and awoofhounds mastered! grind is content!

>>128692301
Yeah, I was done in ~6 matches. You literally only have to left click twice on any same random robot to guarantee a kill most damage.
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>>128692301
>Nigger are you stupid?

I'm sorry, I don't know the intricate mechanics of the game I have not played for 20+ hours because all anyone does is berate me, so FUCKING EXCUSE ME.
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>>128692301
What tier is that at? Because when I tried it, nearly everyone had ECM support, and I got focus fired pretty hard.
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>>128692769
>bringing up EVE in mwog
Careful dudebooty, you might trigger some people.
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I fucking love LPLbolts
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>>128693546
1/2

Or alternatively if Group queue/CW, none

"I hate my team."

>>128693239
Don't get offended; it's just bants. That being said, LRMs are ship weapons. If you really wanna use them then bring a tag.
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>>128694007
Literally who
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>>128693546
T2. You need bap on streakcrows anyways

>mfw cheeter tries to sneak up behind the lance
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fucking hell. That loadout.
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>>128684818

>Tier 3

That explains it. Tier 3 is the top of newbie hell and the point where you can also end up the fodder for a bunch of T1/T2 types.
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>>128694436
>The current year
>still not T1
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Which clan 'mech for LRM boating/long range?
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>>128691716

Nah. It's not past saving.

It's past Paul saving it. But that's pretty much any aspect of the game.
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>>128694615

Depends. LRMs? Mad Dog, Warhawk, Ebin Jag.

Long range? Lots of options.
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>>128694601
>not having literally 2 continuous weeks of kevinbotting padding your stats with suicides back in the day
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>>128695102
>implying 3 year old stats carry over to todays tier system
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>>128695424
Win/loss and K/D carried over but nothing else since they weren't recording any other telemetry of value. I remember doing the math back when they went onto the "new" stats system that it didn't add up properly. Only data that didn't make it was CB and the first few months of OB to my knowledge.

In any case fuck T1. I have it on my other account and it's fucking terrible.
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How is my build? I'm trying to keep my engagements to 600m+. So far this build has been working really well for me even without gauss (which I can't hit shit with for some reason) Any suggestions/tweeks?

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=171&l=3e9b338ed65f3b20bb4fd1dd78a426cc87cd6707
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>decide to flank with lance (who thankfully decide the same)
>they decide, thusly, after reaching enemy territory, to keep pushing in with no one to pincer from the other groups
>five enemies pooled into same spot, same elevation as us
>I'LL JUST KEEP WALKING WHAT COULD GO boom
>OH HEY MY TEAMMATE JUST ATE SHIT YOLboom

:|
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>>128696270
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=171&l=22301d9a611e0e30c82ee40483e6570c1c70fe1f

Run it like an ultra Warcuck.
Fire the pulse lasers in groups of two, and space them out pretty well or you'll be able to cook in your cockpit.
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>>128695045
I was thinking mostly LRMs because I'm boring like that.
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>>128696257
>It's fucking terrible
The game doesn't change at all, everyone still sucks and games are still really easy to pump score in
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>>128694502
Need to get to tier 2 to lessen the suffering. If >>128695424 wasn't the case I would've been there already.
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Best MWO player in this general, ask me anything
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>>128697128
Is mwo pay to win?
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>>128696725
I like that. I just grabbed the PPCs since people seem to back away when they see them fired
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>>128696781
Maybe it was just bad luck. I haven't been on that account in ages so they might have tweaked tiers since then.

>>128697128
What is the safest diameter I can expand my urethra and is it viable to have BBC docking?
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>>128697285
Are you into sounding udebot?
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>>128697162
Yes until you've played enough
>>128697285
It's a black male thing
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>>128697240
People hate PPC's because of the sound, the screen splash, and how they used to be feared for punching holes in mechs. MWO PPC's are garbage though, and really just an energy based AC/10 with more heat. For IS mechs standard PPCs (as opposed to ER) don't even have scaling for range, so at close range <100 meters they do literally 0 damage.
I love face hugging idiots with PPC's and sending them into instant backpedal panic mode.
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>>128692170
How much time and money have you "invested" in MWO so far?
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>>128697739
over 1k
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>>128697614
Why are PPCs so bad? Did they used to be better?

It's gonna suck if we ever get a Nova Cat.
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>>128696270
>build

Shit, here:

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=171&l=9cf058aabb7ea25c6ea4d8a9bbc7f72f914f3954
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>>128697739
Estimated 5000+ hours back from 2012 until now, grab packs have been Veteran, Overlord, Clan sixpack, WIII 3 mechs and a Mauler which is around 400 to 500 dollars
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>>128697739
Remember guys, paying to make something you enjoy more enjoyable is bad.
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>>128697739
$0.00 dollerydoos since I started in 2013, and I intend to keep it that way.
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>>128698064
>defending f2p cancer
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>>128697739

60 dollars four years ago. I only rarely play these days.
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>>128685954
>6R known for it's amazing firepower and poor durability
>tons of structure quirks

>6D known for it's amazing durability
>less structure quirks and more accel

I like this meme
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>>128698397
Whats cancerous about it? You dont have to pay, and you can enjoy the full game.

I dont mind paying a bit every now and then and still get to enjoy the full game.

Whats the problem?
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>>128698434
>my random forum shitpost from three years ago by a literally who badmouthing the devs trumps the fact that the game itself is great and fun and you can play it and enjoy yourself right now
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>>128698896
6R is supposed to be more tanky man.
>>
mech thread up on /v/
who wants to be a bitter faggot over there?
>>>/v/324070792
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>>128700059
>WHM-6D
>An alteration of the 6R model introduced in 2835, the 6D removed the machine guns and the SRM-6 launcher to add an additional four tons of armor to the design,

How wrong can you be? Not only does it have more armor, it doesn't have ammo that can be exploded.
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>>128700312
Its a 6R(s), not 6R.
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>>128696270
>So far this build has been working really well for me even without gauss (which I can't hit shit with for some reason)
Wow scrub detected
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I have a TDR-9SE. what other TDRs should I get for elite/mastery purposes?
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>>128698896

>-5% PPC heat generation.
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>>128700312
For that matter it doesnt even come with a hardpoint to put that SRM6 in either.
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>>128702347
5ss and probably either 9s or top dog
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>when u in group with a-team and they all roasting you on VOIP
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>>128704621
>when you a fucking itty bitty booboo crying blackman
>>
How are you enjoying your CDA-2A(C)?
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>>128704621
I was in a pug yesterday that they ripped on a guy for about 5 straight minutes. I started to feel bad but then realized how retarded he really was. I hope he uninstalled.
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>mfw trying to listen to the Protomen with 10 euro earbuds.
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The fuck is up with collisions? Just had a light teleport past a ppc because he was running into me.
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>>128705028
>mfw finally get used to headphones and one side of them dies
>mfw this keeps happening
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>>128705026
Fuck em, if he's too retarded to mute you he deserves to listen to your rant about his shitty build/play/life.
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>>128705273
That's a netcode thing. I've had mechs phase through me while sitting in a hallway they couldn't possible maneuver past.
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>>128705649
I've never understood this mentality. It's like people HAVE to be experts at the game right away or they shouldn't play (thus lowering the player base) Why not try to help those that are struggling? I try to help correct any newbie mistakes when I can.

>No one ever listens though
It's all about how you do it. Screaming "you dick sucking fucktard how god damn stupid are you rushing in by yourself you faggot!!!" doesn't help anyone.
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What's the disadvantage of just running with override on 100% of the time?
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>>128706296
killing yourself
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>>128689458
How can anyone stand the Atlus' cockpit.
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>>128706296
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>>128706407
reduce your FoV and be zoomed in constantly
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>>128706194
The most frustrating thing for me is dying and watching someone that can't aim for shit. It's always the assholes in their "sniper" build that can't figure out how to lead someone. Seriously how many times are you going to shoot behind the target before you figure it out?
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>>128706382
Well I mean if you manage your heat as you would normally. You just wouldn't shut down if you messed up and went slightly overheat.
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>>128706296
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfnTJmDiIrc
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>>128706296
Nothing at all as long as you dont go full retard with your heat levels.
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>>128705273

Deep-rooted cryengine errors.
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>>128705273
Advanced clanner tech
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which is better for a brawler crab, dakka or alpha?
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>>128709113
Dakka, in most cases dps is more important to brawlers.
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is the warhammer going to be decent?
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>>128709379
so the quad ac/5 would be a better move than the dial ac/20?
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>>128709113
AC20s. While brawling you wanna be thorso twisting to spread enemy damage after you applied your alpha and wait for reload. Can't do that with ac5/uac5. They are for mid to long range.
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So is the Shadow Cat a shitmech or is there something you can actually do on it? Was thinking of buying one to replace my Kit fox in CW.
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>>128709634
4x uac5 and mplas would be my coice
>>128709954
you only have to twits when the enemy is shooting at you, you can be laying into them while their weapons recycle.
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>>128710413
i like my two but i only play pugs, 3 c erllas would work tho.
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>>128689603
>>128689458
>>128689347
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>>128710470
Lol you're negating the dps advantage anyway then. Brawling requires upfront damage and a lot of shielding. AC20s are clearly superior there.
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>>128709579

Probably not.
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>>128710413

It's a pure shitmech, and there's nothing you can do with it. Small engine, a billion hardwired jumpjets, no hardpoints, gimped MASC.
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>>128698896
>expecting russ to know anything about lore

kek
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I want to make a light mainly for capping and legging larger mechs. Any suggestions?
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>>128713562
Arctic Cheetah
Firestarter
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Marauder worth playing? Is it shit like the BLK?
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>>128713926
Marauder might not be top tier but it's pretty good due to how tanky it is. Definitely worth playing.
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>>128710484
>the old low quality one
>not the slightly newer than that one higher quality one
6/10
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>>128714782
"old"
Drawfags were drawing up a storm, I think both were made and colored the same day/night
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>>128716713
like recolor with piggy helm instead of warboss atlas chrome dome
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>tfw greg bully mana can be converted into pure anti-sjr nova rage
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>>128717510
Posting for vent_
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Is the Bounty Hunter supposed to have a built in Warhorn?
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>>128720401
Not as far as I know, but the pack might have come with one preinstalled.
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I am so bad at this game. 50+ games and still haven't finished the event.
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Holy fuck I love the king crab
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>>128709579

It's supposedly a standard PPC specialist.

And standard PPCs are generally shit-tastic.

The one real winner is the hero, which is basically a superior Cataphract. Quad ballistic torso mounts and they're decently high up on the 'Mech to boot.
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>>128722879
>http://mwomercs.com/forums/topic/219540-countdown-to-the-warhammer-release-4-days-left/
Have a KGC 000B how should I mod it?
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>>128722862
Confirmed for shitter.
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>>128688395
MWO, tell me when your game has 128 unique Mechs including battle armor and infantry, hundreds of official and player customized maps and dozens of game modes, can be hosted on dedicated servers with customized settings and has a full fledged single player campaign, all for the price of a normal retail title. That was what was considered normal less than ten years ago.
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I just picked this game up. I bought a Stormcrow Prime with the intention of kitting it out with a gauss + 4x laser build I found that looked fun, but apparently gauss is shit now and the only other one I can find is just a laser build. Anything else I can do with this thing?
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>>128727295
It's the current year.
Grow up pissbaby.
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>>128727469
Have fun settling for mediocrity.
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>>128727351
Good choice, you can do anything on a shitcrow.
Have this: metamechs.com/mwo-guides/clan-master-guides/stormcrow/
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>>128727295
>128 unique mechs
>normal

MW4M didn't launch with half that
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>>128727775
It launched with 36 and had another 8 available with the Mech Packs.
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>>128727649
Have fun never seeing your beloved franchise have another game.
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>>128727890

>yfw MW4 invented on-disc DLC.
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>>128727662

Wait a minute, I just read about omnipods and now it actually makes sense why it's so versatile. So my choice of base mech makes no difference, since I can just swap parts in and out?
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>>128728298
The center thorso in clam mechs is specific to the variant, so the chioce can make slight difference. Everything else is inerchangable.
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>>128728298

Would be nice if there was some kind of built-in feature that tells you what the fuck clans are, the difference between an omnimech and a battlemech, what FF armor actually does, and the true numbers behind ghost heat.

We coulc call it a 'manual.'
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>>128728282
The IS and Clan Mech Packs were back in the day when the expansions were actually new content rather than unlock keys.
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>>128728527
It's a good thing no such manual exists, next to Glossary of Terms & Overview, under User Guide, in the Game section of the MWO website, with links to third party sites that explain in depth the lore behind the Battletech franchise.
Else, people would have to come to this thread or reddit, and watch you bitch about how you think the game hasn't advanced a single bit in 4 years.
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>>128727898
>it's fine for a game to be shit as long as the name MechWarrior is in the title
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The BattleTech Backerkit locks down in about ten minutes. Last call for upgrading and showing off your power level to the world.
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And it's a really good thing that they never got around to adding in pages that list out which mechs are Inner Sphere, and which are clan, and explain the differences in weight classes. And even give an overview of what CW is.

Otherwise, people might have to completely skip reading it, jump headlong into something without doing even the slightest bit of digging on the main fucking site for the game, and post thread after thread on Steam about how lost and dumb they are, and still glean nothing from them.

I'm amazed at the amount of hand-holding Kong thinks MWO needs, yet at the same time the last year alone has opened my eyes to how retarded people really are. I used to hate how dumbed down modern games were, and the joke that was tutorials or locked in coddling for the first baby steps. But now I see that media today is being kept alive by a horde of drooling mongoloids that blame anything but themselves for being absolute uniformed shit.
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>>128730442
>website

Would be better off in the game, at least with on-hover tooltips.
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>>128730442
>shitposting this hard
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>>128729931

Never backing anything ever again. I learned my lesson. Notify me when the game actually releases in 2017.
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>>128729931
>all this useless guff and those cringeworthy jackets
Not even once. I hope the game is great, I'm looking forward to it, but no to all that shit.
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>>128734140

The jackets don't look that bad, but I wouldn't pay 275 dollars for an old man jacket.
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>>128734787
They look awful. That shit is embarrassing. For your sake, I really hope you don't wear shit like that.
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>>128733660
Normally I'd have the same opinion but it's made by guys that have proven themselves for three separate games that they hold up to their kickstarter promises with the Shadowrun games. Dragonfall was a damn good game.
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>>128735064
Better to just cosplay as a MechWarrior than be seen in those "flight jackets". Ever notice how all the live action cutscenes in the games never show the actors in speedos and cooling jackets, let alone actual neurohelmets? It's usually variations of helicopter gunship pilot or tank driver.
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>>128735653
>that filename
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>>128729931
We should try and get the Harebrained guys in a KongKast.
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Is Hawken ded yet?
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>>128735653
Well really that's just one type of MW suit there's a lot of variety, but I agree with you, it is pretty lame how Mechwarriors just get stuck in some shitty flight suit.
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>>128736524
It's perpetually undead. Only like 30 people even play it and it was supposed to shut down a year ago, but it's still going.
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Does anyone have that video of the stalker overheating with one flamer?
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>>128737419
Fitting for a game that only had like 30% of the developers' care put into it.
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>there will never be 64/64 player multiplayer
>map sizes will never be big enough to matter
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>>128738139
We don't know this.
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>>128737067
>japs somehow most fashionable
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>>128738217
All of these games have the potential to just experiment and crank up the map size and player count. Why don't they
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New thread
>>128738967
>>128738967
>>128738967
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>>128736210

Let's not.
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