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lewd edition

old thread:>>128207267

>New league Talisman info
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1478438

>/poeg/ HC guild (No sporkers allowed), drop your IGN if you want an invite
https://www.pathofexile.com/guild/profile/740

>Helpful links
http://pastebin.com/2a5WBcBP (embed) (embed) (embed)

>"Hey guys what's the price on this piece of shit item"
http://poe.trade/

>Read this before asking for build advice
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/510084

>2.0 Passive Skill Tree
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree

>2.1 Offline Skill Tree Planner
https://github.com/EmmittJ/PoESkillTree/releases/tag/2.2.3

>Wiki
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Path_of_Exile_Wiki

>Delete This
https://github.com/ben-wallis/Filtration
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Friendly reminder to open up the guild profile page and whisper an officer if you want an invite
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>>128360560
*it was a hologram*

I SAID no touching, didn't I?!!
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>>128360276
Friendly reminder that poeg guild is pure cancer
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>>128360687
*travels back in time*
*turns ur mummy into a hologram*

now u r nuthin........


...........but dust in the wind
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>>128361728
>museaum no hidden

spoiler that shit
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>saw some nigga with two wolf pets following him around
What?
How?

>also saw this like... golden pet with wings but it was a lion, cant remember the name of that creature
what is that
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>>128362747
you can have 2 pets now

people paid an obnoxious amount of money for supporter packs and got an equally obnoxious pet
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>Vaal Arc
This is fun
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Who /comfywithcocoa/ here?
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>>128364886
>comfywithcocoa
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>>128362060
museum is GOAT for sac farming, silly faggot
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>>128365284
you can farm this sack, bitch
*grabs balls*
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OMG!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>128366293
5/10 would use against Weaver.
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>>128365187

I want to drink cawfeá directly from her vagina, poeg!
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>>128367226
>cawfeá
???
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>>128367296
i meant urine
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>>128367518
gilrs dont pee out of their vagina, silly.
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How do you check which of your characters have microtransaction effects equipped? Is there any "recover all" button?
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>>128367582
virgin spotted

women have a single orifice for all waste removal / insemination purposes, much like birds
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>>128367983
cant check, there is no recover all button
you have to go into the character to see

i use portrait markers to mark which characters i have mtx on and which i dont
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>>128367983
Contact the support team and they'll help you find where they all are.
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>not buying the Ascendant supporter pack
It's literally a steal
You get what you pay for in points, and on top of that you get all of those nice cosmetics, and signed art

Literally why aren't any of you buying this?
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>>128369229
i could also buy 440$ worth of dirt

>but you get your money's worth!
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>>128369229
go away chris
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>>128369229
i got a second mortgage on my car to buy it. i HIGHLY recommend anyone to do the same
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>>128360052
I hate to be a saucefag
But
Source?
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>>128369229
It also comes with a hidden bonus to your general RNG, courtesy of Chris Wilson!

:^)
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>>128370408
are you new to this malasian website?
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>>128368847
>>128368363
It should be impossible to delete or lose a non-consumable mtx in any way right?
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>>128370603
Google image search stopped working for me. Cleared cache, c ookies, deleted system32. Nothing
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>>128370698
Correct. You don't lose them.
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>Fixed a bug where the Death's Oath aura dealt too little damage to monsters and too much damage to players.

Anyone confirm how substantial this fix is?
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>>128370408
seconding this
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>>128371230
I can confirm that it's still not worth using
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>>128372572
Thanks, that's enough
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>>128372572

I don't believe that you tested it liar
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Why are there Rooster Demons in Daresso's Dream?
Is it supposed to signify that he's a cuckold or something?
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>>128375248

cockdemons mean daresso is a fuckboy
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post them
sct
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>>128378024
nice
how many you running?
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>>128369229
i've bought three supporter packs already in various prices.
i have 28 stash tabs.

the awakening tshirt took half a year to arrive.. so they aint getting no money from me. I dont even like the pets or portal effects this time.
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>>128378242
>the awakening tshirt took half a year to arrive
same
when I got it I was like "what the fuck? Oh... Oh yeah."
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> post advice about ice crash build on reddit
> played it myself to 94 know the flaws off the skill pretty well
> get downvoted
> while shitty one liner gets upvoted

Now I remember why I rarely go to reddit.
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poe is more fun than wow desu
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>>128380231
hello reddit

in all seriousness, yeah, reddit is literal garbage for every purpose other than a concentrated news source
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just got my first exalted in talisman standard
what should i buy on my memefall shadow, my dps is more than adequate and defences are p good. any good uniques going around idk xD kinda bored just doing challenges
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THX FOR THE FUCKING MAP KID
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>>128380231
>that image
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>>128370603
New to this general.

Google images brings me path of exile templar build forum what the fuck?
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>>128381592
google "orangutan"
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>>128380959
two mings heart = 2c
the 80c leftover you can give to me
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>>128381893
You orangutans are monkies right? If you google orangutan you're just going to get pictures of orangutans not some girl.

Are americans really this stupid?
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>>128382406
epic bait
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>>128381592
>>128381893
>>128382406
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>>128382406
>>128382406
orangutans are apes, tardy
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i dont even play this game but whos that semen demon in the op
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>>128384983
Bex

shes our community manager
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>>128384983
>liking unshaved
Ewwwwwwwwwwww
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>>128384447
And apes are monkies, and monkies are mammals dipshit. They all have mammies therefore mammals.

It's called a subset. Holy shit these are elementary concepts how do you now know this already?
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>>128385251
nope

both monkey groups are sister groups to apes. all of which are primates. you literally dont know shit about cladistic taxo
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>>128385164
wtf cant find the original picture
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>level up
>check vendors
>no 6L
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE (frog noise)
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>>128385681
you wont find it. she sent that set to the first player to reach level 100 in hardcore talisman league
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>>128385681
That's because it's an arbitrary picture of some ledditor that someone pull off /r/gonewild a few months ago and posted it here as a maymay.

It quickly became a "le ebin sekrit klub may may" because of all the people asking for source and few people actually knowing what the source was.
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>>128386495
Based truthbro.
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>>128386495
its been reposted on other boards
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Is 200 ping an unreasonable ping to play at? Haven't played at that high of a ping and that's what I'm expecting for the next few weeks
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What is unarguably the best bladefall variety?
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>>128387219
poison
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>>128387219
crit bladefall
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>>128386773
you'll get used to it, at least as long as it's a consistent 200. don't play anything stupid tho. predictive was actually improved in 2.0
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>>128387219
crit totem poison rainbow bladefall
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>>128387345
>5% base crit
>scaling

why would you ever do this
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is there even any reason to play any more
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>>128387368
Do I need to play in predictive at that ping?
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>>128387706

>play poe
no
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>>128387706
new d3 season this friday

then wait til march for ascendancy
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>>128387748
you wont only need to, but you will want to
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>>128387882
>two months of d3
I'd be surprised if I can play it for 2 weeks
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>>128387748
yes, unless heavy stutter is your thing.
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havent played since memelines
ama
btw captcha = 420
DUDE WEED LOL
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>>128387963
it's getting better, slightly, at a snails pace...
at least the gameplay isn't ass
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>>128366293
I once did a build with fairgraves tricorne, Rise of the phoenix dream fragments and this boots. fuck you they are good. Never been so tanky in my life
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>>128387429
>wasting a link slot on totem
>wasting link slots on unfocused elemental damage when you could focus on large chaos and/physical increases
>having such an inefficient passive tree that rainbow even makes sense

Top lel
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>>128370408
found it
https://tineye
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Had to crop it then run it through tineye.
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will we finally get a cloak? I bet those are the most expensives
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>>128388467
Based.
Absolutely based.
Thank you.
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>Buy an item for 1ex sell it for 5ex
>Buy an item for 5ex
>Actually an upgrade vs current gear
>Sell current gear for 7ex

THC btw
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>>128389560
>>128389692
>deleting just because uograde vs upgrade
Anon
You really didn't have to
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drillneck just dropped

what's the #1 snowflake build for it?
I mean I guess I could try ele TS too. I like ts till I don't...
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>>128380231
>screenshot of a reddit post
>post about a reddit post
>in path of exile general

fuck off
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>>128380231
Reddit is fucking cancer I've not seen such a cancerous community where you get downvoted for stating the truth or making a contributing post that's relevant. With other forums down vote means when the post isn't relevant, in reddit there must be a down vote squad monitoring every single post.
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>>128389873
poison arrow is easiest and best drillneck build

or you can just sell it and buy gear for the character you're already playing
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is catposter dead?
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>>128390449
hes in wowg
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>>128390449
probably just sleeping
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best talisman to use for setting up exiles with talismans?
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>>128391717
>facebook meme
>autistic as fuck vocaroo
>cross-general shit-throwing
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>>128391198
bonespire
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give me webm suggestions
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>>128392535
make a nice close-up comparative webm of every potential PoEfu so we can all judge them one after another and argue over who is best girl

I think Vanja is bangin' desu
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>>128390449
Yep
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>>128391717
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1f659UQfBUQ
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guy that posted you bladefall passive tree, if you're here, ive got a question

you take the vaal pact keystone, but you have no life leech taken on the tree, other than 0.4% from physical attacks only, which you're not using if you're doing bladefall

my question is if that keystone is really even worth it with this build. seems kind of out of place and redundant since you take a bit of regen increase in another part of the tree


is there really a good source of life leech when you're playing bladefall that's possible?

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwYAsNii2cgU9W9qjBa_df0mlYRvYeLUQlVLtUhtbOtjNj3ndBEvnaro1isKbIwi6psmBbVd8mKswzoyAQZwjb8OSCo4shlOn1FH1CMRls96en8wfDBxf8YHHmHrjX3dqJMnlS56UyP2S3hsC--I8NVNkjpCIvT5N4_6SVFtGdfPXEAti5f0CPRJsVS9H8dSU8BUFe0reD1fakOWiyyc1bkRLXyD6-4y0ZrgHNxFR0WdjxrAZlNSPAUEs-98ogDwH5eVTLMEB4PbVcY6WNAf7-u-iqEvvOrmgcu9N9TtP5u1hMU=
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>>128394678
use the f*cking gem m8
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>>128394949
aw aych ee double hockeysticks
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>Would it be possible for players to pay for the design costs of an item's 3D art?

>Yes… though the ones that are not done yet are often the expensive ones. Email me if serious about this.

Poetards?
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:^)
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>>128395179
I'm on it.
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>>128395297
i wish i had empty tabs to do jew art with
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>>128395324
>Are custom (paid) leagues still something you'd like to see done?

>Yes. It hasn't been prioritised yet as it doesn't add content to the core game itself. Now that the core game is looking pretty meaty, this is the type of thing we can investigate in the future. Do people still want to pay for custom private leagues?

Chris is a fucking jew. Wont take long until you can rent skill gems for a limited time and those will be only available in the shop
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>>128395596
>paid leagues
literally WHAT
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>>128394678
I picked up Vaal Pact after I 6 linked my chest and tossed on the Life Leech gem, so its a late game survivability increase.

Im 99% sure id be dead without VP and the LL gem though.

Its also pretty fucking difficult to get 200% life without getting any regen.
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>>128395695
Buy more tabs goy :^)
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>>128395596
FUCKING FINALLY

FREEFAGS BTFO AT LEAST

$20 paid leagues when
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>>128395596
>>128395695
>>128395875
I mean; What the fuck would a paid league even look like? What would the incentive be? Why would it be paid?
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>>128395596
Essentially it's paying to have you own league hosted with custom mods that you could have private for you and your friends to play?

That sounds pretty fun.
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>>128395960
This was a good idea when they originally posted about it all those year back.

Now it sounds like a terrible idea, the game doesnt have a big enough playerbase to support something like this.
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>>128395865
Okay, thanks.
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>>128396050
Wow anon, you must have a lot of friends to be able to disrupt everyone else.
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>>128395954
you can pay to have it customized to your liking (drops, mob density, difficulty, restrictions to trade AKA self-found, etc)
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>>128396195

He's right tho.

Nobody wants to invest in a game where the devs clearly have no idea what they're doing. Specially now that GGG cannot use D2 nostalgia/D3 failure at launch anymore.

GGG shifted their business model from "a small yet loyal fanbase that purchases packs to help us develop a game" to "sell stash tabs at weekends".
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>>128397631
what the fuck is this resolution are you kidding me
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Price check THC???
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>There are new maps based on the Ascendancy tilesets.

back in awakening, ggg office
>chris, players don't like certain maps such as orchard and arsenal, what should we do about it?
>let's make them higher tier then, so they'll be forced to run them instead

implying this isn't gonna happen again
prepare your anguses for t1x pit and desert
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>>128397839
4c
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>>128398415
i would NOT eat green eggs and ham
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>>128398534
thanks 2bh
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>>128398534
ive selling something similar forever at 2c and its still unsold. may end up moving it into the 1c tab, or just for 1 fuse
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>>128397839
>not displaying ilvl
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>>128398994
>>128398534
>>128397839

This isnt sellable

I wouldve left it on the ground and picked up a rare or chrome in its place.
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>>128399426
a 3-5c storm bow is more useful than 95% of other leveling bows
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can i feed bonespire talisman to Voll or something, just for the sole purpose of kill other players in thc?
is there a better talisman for pk
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>there are people here running hybrid builds that don't have at least 5k-6k life along with the ES buffer

Enjoy your pseudo low life build with no chaos immunity :^)
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>>128401507

>you drop talisman at vol
>I go pick it up before he can

>you drop talisman for voll and he picks it up
>I walk away

lmao great plan
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>>128401672
how do i kill people then? back in times in beta it was much easier
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>>128402018

>standard
>another generic bladefall chaos memer with mings heart

incredible
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>>128402018
back to reddit
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>first time playing shadow for any length of time
>class actually looks pretty good in most armor sets
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>>128402015
There's always the bandits method.
That's the only method I've ever known.
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>>128403142
I thought it was known that Shadow's model was used in every promotional art for each set. Seriously, check out the website.
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>>128403142
I'm just discovering this too.
>that aesthetic body
>those stances with various weapons
>that general proneness to evasion gear which tends to look best
Shadow best class
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>>128402018
>>128402339

>couldn't even commit to his post
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>>128403142
he only has to fix his posture.

though i hope GGG never does it, some head MTX that doesnt look good on others looks good on shadow and vice-versa
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>>128403293
>aesthetic body
>posture of a software engineer

pick one
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>>128395297
Make a kitty :3
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Ok so its pretty clear Fire Golem is a girl and Ice Golem is a boy

But Chaos Golem?
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;_;7

It's never easy
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>>128406992
Ice is definitely the girl, dem legs and dat azz
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>>128407049
>dying before maps
>dying to rakango that everyone avoids
baka fami
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>>128406992
Chaos golem is tumblr
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>>128407252
Literally did not even see it, basically an offscreen oneshot
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>>128407356
but its tails are right there
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>>128407427
And I died before I had time to even recognize there was an enemy on the screen

Oh well, see you guys next year
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>>128407512

>uninstalling over a single sub 60 death

why do you even do anything in life if you are such a quitter
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>>128407512
kek

you shouldnt play hc if you take a death so badly m8
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>>128407605
Softcore feels pointless though

I was already pretty bored and the idea of having to re-do everything I've spent the last 3 days on just doesn't seem worth it
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>>128407805

>3 days to not even get to merc

You'd have to be playing less than an hour a day to only be a4 cruel.
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>>128408048
Was more like 20 hours total to get to a4 cruel, sorry I can't get carried like all the streamers do to hit merciless in a day
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>>128408413

>carried streamers are the only people who can hit merci in a day

Anyone can hit merci in a day. Getting into cruel takes like 2 hours tops.
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>>128408746
And then you die to normal dominus because you're 6 levels underleveled and are wearing complete trash gear because you haven't spent any time grinding, haven't had fans feeding you drops, and don't have toadies around to come oneshot the boss for you
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>>128409005
>because you haven't spent any time grinding

you should really not be playing hc if you arent comfy running past normal at least

there is zero need to grind until a4c, and even then to just hit some build milestone
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>>128387882
>yfw people still play D3 and are not memeing
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How does /poeg/ feel about Devilian? I think it's p fun
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>>128409736
>>128409736

never quite got into it

played it during its closed beta a bit
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>>128409005

You sound retarded

probably better that you uninstalled
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>>128409736
it's p2w casual garbage
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>>128409908
>>128410141

but is it fun
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>>128410426
no it's not. fun is being lvl90+ and doing rippy bosses in hardcore playing poe. devilian is gook p2w casual garbage trash. fucking fuck off heathen interloper
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>>128410539
okay sorry but i think it's fun
and i think poe is fun
i'm gonna keep posting in these threads
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>>128410708

i found it to be so easy/uninteresting that i kept nodding off

and it is p2w
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>>128410801
I think it's a lot of fun. zoom around casting spells and such. wowee! you get hyuge damage numbers like diablo3. it's free. what's not to like? you even get a ssj transformation
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>>128411275
i like how you sound like a marketer who misunderstands what appeals to poe auties
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>>128411421
i like you too anon! let's try devilian together sometime! See you in the virtual world!
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>>128411616
I kow!! Just for 15 days you can enjoy awesome login rewards! Install Devillian NOW!
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>>128411753
this was fun anon let's do it again
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>>128410539
hell in poe you can do both.. just play perm leagues, rmt gear, do ultra ultra rippy bosses and see what happens
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>Auction House - can we expect one any time soon? I am a completely new player to PoE. Having to use third-party tools to search for items for sale is painful. Not having an automated way for something I post for sale to be bought and delivered to a customer means I will never sell anything, as I play the game to play the game, not to be a merchant.

The trade improvements will never be in the form of an auction house that has automated buyouts.

>There are many reasons for this, but the short answer is that trivial trading has a very negative impact on games. There are other trading improvements coming. Just no automatic buyouts.

fixed trade autist btfo
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>>128413064

I just skimmed through that Q&A thread because its full of the same shitty obnoxious questions.

Every nigger wants a better trade system/official xyz site.

But flooding every single question thing with the same whiny bullshit over and over wont make it any faster. They've also said there will never be any sort of auction house yet faggots can't let it go.
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Auction house is a bad idea anyway, they should just make their own version of poe.trade on their website
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>>128413273
bed awaits, chris
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>>128389873

Voltaxic pierce poison spark.
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>>128397839
shit base 2-4c at best
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>>128413526
this is what i'm thinking

buy xyz, buy acquisition, improve them, and then add a reputation system to keep the bad mannered shitheads in their place
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>>128414427
>Reputation systems
>Ever working
See: Reddit
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I did it friends! Thanks for all the support! I'd like to also thank my mum.
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>>128415836
that's not really a rep system, more like a faggot system haha
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>>128416168
gj m8y
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>>128407049
Literally all you need is fire res
Gtfo
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>>128416168

All it took was you for to play cyclone for the 50th time :^)
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>>128416168

Party when? Hopefully youll wait till i get home.

Now all we need is for soda to hit maps, and we can call the league a success.
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Why do my cyclone do not get more than 60k of dps?

I have WOE (perfect roll) 6l , but every build at level 80+ have more than 80k of dps

4k hp , 8k armour and all res max inclusive chaos.
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>>128418336

Better build
Better jewelery
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>>128416168
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>>128418336
>4k lyf lmao
>8k armour lmao
that armour means nothing just drop it and get end charges
also please post your tree
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>>128418336
get a better fucking weapon
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>>128419827
I will post tree when i get home , work atm .
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>>128420242
thanks senpai
i'll be waiting
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>>128415836
It's just reddit the biggest tech site in Netherlands/Belgium also consists of posters with a down and upvote system and has no issues with massive cancerous downvote squads that downvotes every poster.
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>>128418336
post tree
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So guys. Me and very few guys have the idea about PvP in PoE. Kind of Dark Souls with little differences. But now I realized that a lot of players feel comfy to grind maps without fear to be invaded and be killed. So I've made a strawpoll to know how 4chan thinks. Feel free to say "Fuck you" my hands down already.
http://strawpoll.me/6524667
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>>128421118
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How do I have fun again?
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>>128421118
no idea what you're talking about
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>>128421118
path of exile already has something like it, you know that right?

it just hasn't had any events of it because there isn't a demand
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http://strawpoll.me/6524721

Which league do you play mostly /poeg/?
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>>128421389
Which game is that?
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>>128422129

Looks like your standard flashy, substance-less korean shitfest
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>>128403142
>razer footprints
Kill yourself. GO HOME GAMERGIRL.
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>>128403142
>>128422671
gamergirls hmu
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>get bored of mapping with LA ranger
>take a break to level Shadow
>Essence Drain + Contagion is fun as fuck
i picked the wrong build for my main
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>>128422925
ED drains your brain, you will be bored of it by lvl40
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>>128422671
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>the league is a little over 4 weeks old now
>project PT has died 7 times so far. Nearly 2 times a week
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>>128424927
so? i've died 9x so far
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>>128425052

How?

How do you even have the strength to go on?
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>>128425131
im shit but in a good way
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>>128425131
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>>128425994

>dying once a day, every day, for 89 years straight
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>>128426116
One day i'll make it to Merciless
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>>128426116
Cast on Death is a hell of a build
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>put item on sale without a b/o price
>random guy pm me
>hey i'd like to buy your item
>offer?
>no u offer xD
motherfucker there is a reason there isn't a b/o tag on it
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>>128427369
>saying offer

u deserved this u cunt
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You guys still play this garbage? Back in closed Beta this was a 10/10 game. now its just a trashy clusterfuck of a game. I wouldn't piss on it if it was on fire.

Do yourself a favor and quit. This genre is dead.
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>>128427662
?
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>>128428159
imagine putting your car in your front yard with a for sale sign on it without a price and then asking every person who's interested in it to "offer" on it

imagine how stupid you would look

now apply this to poe
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>>128428840
>comparing real life and video games
pls stop
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:^)
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>>128428840
First off your analogy is retarded and second if I actually had a fixed price for which I would be willing to sell my item then I would have put a b/o tag on it.
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>>128429041
despite your endless supply of excuses saying offer is rude as fuck
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>>128429227
offer?

LOL
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>>128429227
How is that rude?
I put an item on sale without a pricetag, therefore if you are interested in it you should be the one offering a price.
If you pm me and you expect me to give you one then you are retarded.
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>>128429616
Its like you walk to up to a maccas and ask for a qtr pounder then the staff are all "offer!?". You obviously have an assumed value but you're not throwing it out there because you wanna scam a moron. How's he gonna read your mind man.
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>>128427369
I aways offer like 10 alch for any item even if worth 10 mirror.
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>>128429902
Okay you're definitely stupid.
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reminder to ignore anyone that says offer when i ask to buy an item
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>>128430174
>buying items without a buyout
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Dunno why everybody loses their shit over bladefall.
Ye the dmg is insane, but selfcast its super aids to play...
Having FC: Echo and the nimbleness cluster the delay and AoE is still shit.
I switch to EK...same clearspeed..less ebola.
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>>128430174

You shouldn't be asking to buy the item without a price in the original whisper.

You've been looking up shit and similar shit, you know how much that shit is worth. List your price in the opening whisper.

Just whispering people "Hi I wanna buy x" is stupid.
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>>128430372
you need to download more ram for you're brain
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>start game
>takes a year to get to the title screen
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>>128427369
You deserve it you mongoloid. If you had any clue what the item is worth you wouldn't need to say "Offer". If you want them to pay more then add slightly more to the price.
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>>128430008
You must be genuinely retarded. What everyone said is spot on and you're a fucking faggot for asking "offer". Go watch the Yoji trading etiquette if you still don't understand what's going on.
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>>128431128
Uh... And why exactly should I take some random faggot's opinion as fact?
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>>128432318
Do everyone a favor an uninstall PoE
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>>128431128
S>trading etiquette
LMAO eat shit
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thinking about rolling IW RF ED contagion for thc. how fun is ED contagion?
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>>128433941
It is slow at higher maps like tier 10+
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>>128429902
>maccas
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PSA

Most people ask for offers because:
>they are too lazy to look up the actual price
>they are overly shy faggots who can't just ask people

These reasons do not make it okay
If you ask for offers, please step the fuck up and stop being a faggot
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A week of botting. This is not including the few ex of items I have for sale, 500 chromes, jews and 1000 alts. Botting is literally killing the economy.
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>>128435445
almost only a sc issue so it doesn't really matter
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>>128435445
W-what bot do you use?
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>>128435662
Yeah, nobody bots HC.

>>128435863
Exilebuddy
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>>128435445
Unless you have a bot farm with 10+ bots, this will never beat the jewconomy.
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>>128436074
Looks pretty nice senpai I might try it out, thanks.
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>cruel in 2 hrs
Nobody really expects this to be the average, right?
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>>128436074
How much are you paying for it?
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>>128436917
Not that anon but it's 28$ USD for a lifetime sub to one account.
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>>128436979
Or register at codedeception.com and use Buddy products for free.
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what's a gud spell for IW marauder?
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>>128437186
Let me just guess, bladefall is god tier.
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How fucked am I going to be in Merciless?
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>>128436074
Are you maining on your main or are you using another acc?
I am tempted to bot on my main as the only risk from getting banned seems to come from botting for too long.
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>>128437727
>maining
I meant botting
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>>128437096
Thanks family.
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>>128437186
something fire because of all the fire nodes
so unless you want to try incin you could go for bm fireball with the new jewel maybe
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>tfw OP image is my shitpost
>tfw haven't played in a long time

So, is this game still shit or is it still shit?
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Why is Blast Rain so good?
I use Split Arrow w/ CoH+Ass Mark and it just makes for devastating single target nuke.
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>>128437727
Another account. I have too much money invested in my main lol. I don't trade currency between them, only items I buy with my bot account. The last part is true though, I've had an account banned that I got greedy on an left running for 36 hours lol. I only 10-15 hours a day now.
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>>128437186
>>128437825
oh there is also gc with aof and cold to fire then you also gain half the phys as free firedamage though you might be getting low in sockets with
cold to fire - firepen - iw - spellecho
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>>128437096
Does this require a subscription as well?
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>>128438125
Yeah 36 hours in a row seem like way too much. I'd probably just run it while I am sleeping or something.
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>>128438020
The current topic is botting and rmt, its shit
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>>128438557
botting is a sc topic lmao
rmt if we're talking about hc it's really just d2jsp which i don't feel is an issue when it's just turns into cross league trading from temp league to temp league

though i don't deal in either almost everyone i know does one of them
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>>128438923
>mfw killing my bots so they always stay in the map drop range, dropping rng cards
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>>128437096
How does this work? Do i need to buy VIP or what?
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>>128438125
Do you run it on a vpn or something? Cause when they ban your bot account wont they just ban every account on your IP?
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Remove Soda from the guild when
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>>128438923
You can easily bot in HC
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>>128440527

yeah man
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>people here actually boting and considering boting
S T O P
T
O
P
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>>128440656
it's sc lmao why not encourage them to make their league shitter
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>>128440656

>spending your time willingly slaving away on chris' bullshit

you fucked up
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PvP dailies are such a blast with an essence drain character. Haven't lost/died once in weeks.
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How would this work for an IW coc build? using those iw gloves and fireball, arctic breath, and arc on coc.

https://poebuilder.com/character/AAAAAgMAJbzgw9tP378OPBRx-OvqGPcycqmsqlnzcg9mnvrSHRSPRqcI6-58gxEtjr6Swd-wRKtVriycj6aCEK-bEFiVBHYRMjSvt-Tsh2VfKuvkBAcfAqyYdFXdjNlf4BKNGX6vEQ8tfcG071C1hVPUjYLR5J8BF1RMLSKBnqFWSo48LpSXhTT3IbDxbOxVKo1JGzbYUDDbXq-NcXkXHBJp98EabJ2uRtdXKXGFsULaufMR1XXMt3rmY_0wlzmKjDZQQlM1kyd_xqKjwfOCHhSw34QC_kLDfjNd8qSRE57ljp1jpLHz6ioLcFKJ03DVuMo7fA_EU1JFnZrg
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>>128441070
>PvP
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>>128440982
>playing video game
No, you fucked up
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>>128441214
>>
invite me to the TalismanHC guild
ign: Lets_All_Love_Lain
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>>128441392
???????????????????
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>>128437096
This is literally not working for exile buddy
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>there are still undiscovered vendor recipes
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>128441548
yeah it's someone from exilebuddy shilling
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>>128441214
>49% life
>regen applies to energy shield when no energy shield nodes have been taken
It's shit
>>
what's the cheapest and most viable (can run maps and shit) build to go for when you have literally nothing but 4 stash pages and 5 wisdom scrolls to start with?
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>>128442735
shockwave totem
bladefall
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Does Zealot's Oath regen only effect the normal way of ES restoration, or does it constantly regen like normal HP?
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>>128442735
Something something Blast Rain/Split Arrow Ranger.
It's pretty cheap and easy to play. Bladefall and Shockwave Totem are good options as well.
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>>128442883
the normal way ES regenerates is called "recharge"

ZO will add regen along with it
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>>128442735
Essence drain contagion. Can literally run t7 maps with 0 spell damage on gear and 4 links
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>>128442883
It constantly regen like normal hp, it's not that good unless you combine it with shit like binos or ED's regen
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>>128443578
>running 74s is an accomplishment to /poeg/
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>>128442837
>>128442935
>bladefall

i keep hearing that, starting to seem like the choice for me

anyway, was asking because i'm considering to do an alt account and set it up to merc so i can try multi clienting lol
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>>128443864
did you just stop reading at

>can literally run t7
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>>128443864
>wannabe elitist missing the point

What else is new. Gotta find a way to bump the thread I guess.
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>>128444195
it means you can't run t8's familia
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>>128422129
lost ark
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>>128444281
except he can

he said he can run t7 with almost NOTHING
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>>128444687
clear speed is abysmal
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>>128427831
>230 million players worldwide
>dead genre

Haha
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>>128445285
cite your sources chris
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>oh hey i got a unique
>mouse over it
>tabula rasa
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>>128445423
>oh hey i got a unique
>mouse over it
>fencoil
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>>128445496
>oh hey i got a unique
>mouse over it
>shackles
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>>128444846
If you think clear speed is abysmal with ED you suck ass at this game.
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>>128445380
230 million players in Garena
5k players in Steam+intl stand alone client

do the math, tard.
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>>128445593
>230 million people playing Path of Exile in Garena
?????????????
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>>128445593
>230 million
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>>128445552
If you think +15 minute clear speeds is acceptable, by all means play it.


OKAY DUDE
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>>128443578
IS runing t7 maps running a thing?

Wew i guess my cyclone with 60k dps is not bad because i can run t12 maps easily , even with physical reflect.

And my build is totaly focused in physical.
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>>128445423
you have to mouse over it to figure out its a tabula rasa?

I figured the 6 white sockets all linked together would be a dead giveaway
>>
Who invited all the fags into this thread?
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>>128445593
hOW CAN TEHRE be 230 milion palyers ingARenma if ther are only 7 milion people in the PLAanet?
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>>128445851
The same guy that invited you.
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>>128445798
What if you can only see in shades of green/blue and red sockets look white?
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>>128445940
i dont think that really maters anon

if a unique drops for you that is 6 linked at all you're either the luckiest mother on the face of the planet or its a tabula
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>>128445940
>6L simple robe drops

i wonder what unique it could be
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>>128445717
This is embarrassing to read. I had the naivety to think most posters here were experienced players.
>>
>mfw colorblind and can't see the difference between rare and uniques
>>
>>128446062
>if a unique drops for you that is 6 linked at all you're either the luckiest mother
>can't scour uniques
>most unique chests are shit
>most 2h weapons are shit
>>
these colorblind posts are reminding me of that edgy motherfucker from /wfg/ that could literally only see in shades of grey and red
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>>128446278
>mfw retarded and can't change colors in a loot filter
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>>128446278
>mfw colorblind and can't tell the difference between white lolis and brown lolis
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>>128446259
>muh elitism
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>>128446259
I feel better when everyone is trying learn about the game and not showing off they stuff like the /global en
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>>128446725
Indeed. Which why you shouldn't spew bullshit like "ED is shit and takes 15 minute to clear maps" when you obviously have zero experience with it. That's just embarrassing.
>>
>>128446389
that wasnt even me and i was on that gen for like 2-3 years until the archwing shit
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>>128446985
he posted about it after archwing
>>
mindbreak is great
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>>128446358
unlucky would be the better term then.

either way its a really low chance
>>
>this sucks!!!!!
>no, not really, it's decent as fuck
>WOW FUCKING ELITISTS HOLY SHIT
10/10 you guys are hilarious
>>
>>128449230
>no one responds to you for 45 minutes
>better make some more posts about myself

here's the (You) you so desperately crave you pathetic fuck
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>>128449230
we try
>>
>>128449374
wasn't even that guy but knew you'd reply
thanks m8
>>
this meta is the best since ele prolif
there's a decent amount of build diversity
but it's probably just because the incinerate/cyclone/SRS meta was shit
>>
>playing ED Contagion
>using blasphemy tempchains
>using chaos golem
Everything is purple
It's so pretty
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>>128449579
>this meta is the best since ele prolif

well considering there have only been 2.0 and 2.1 since the prolif era, that's not hard to achieve
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>>128449579
>poison
>chaos conversion
>memefall

dat build diversity familia

>don't listen to me I actually agree 2.1 has been one of the best things that ever happened to PoE
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>>128449769
chaos conversion is the best thing to happen to this game desu
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>>128449769
poison and chaos memes are hot af
you can stick poison or chaos convert anything that hits fast enough and it works
>>
deadead
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>>128447883
Sure is

There's this one where the girls are like working at a fast food place and it involves public use too

One of my faves
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holyshit, just used poetrade for the first time and wow.

2 ex and 29 chaos later, my build as improved so much I dont even recognize it. Why did I play self-found for so long.
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I want to roll a new character but I'm not sure what.

Already played to death:
>LA
>lightning strike
>snoreclone
>caustic arrow
>split crit
>blast rain
>ground slam
>ed / contagion
>reave


thinking about doing sweep or a summoner.. maybe even blade vortex..

definitely leaning towards some melee shit

facebreaker immortal blow?
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>>128452687
Face breaker anything is fun as fuck
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>>128452574
What did you buy?
>>
>>128452820
stuff
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>>128452971
Nice posts man
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>>128452820
Pledge of Hands, some +2 summon/resist/300 ES helm, some gems (vaal haste, quality minion damage).
>>128452971
nice post, self
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>>128452574
roads to banishment is not entertainment designed for self play
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>>128453501
srs build?
>>
crit shockwave totem

poeurl.com/vQQ


I'm about to roll this gents, did I fuck up?
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>>128455048
yes sir. Very fun
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>>128455080
>endurance charge

Why
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>>128455080
>poeurl.com/vQQ
http://poeurl.com/vQR
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>>128455080
you can shave a couple points if you optimize your pathing around the templar shit
ditch that frenzy charge for life
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>>128455096
>>128455218
>>128455339
>>128455420

Thanks a bunch gentlemen
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>>128455819
you go crit anyway and still use controled destruction
also you use physical to lightning for great dips and shocking
>>
Does Fortify gives you dmg reduction also for non physical attacs?
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>>128455819
you can put hatred or phys to light to freeze and shock

there is even some aof build that does burn with it (but its wonky)

>>128455984
yes
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>>128455984
yeah it's global damage reduction, it reduces even chaos damage, the only thing it does not reduce is damage over time
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>>128455096
I've never tried srs, do the skulls automatically acquire targets or do they need you to aim somewhere like other minions?
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What is this cool new meme trend im seeing in global chat`?
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>>128456564
>20c
>le meme face
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>>128456132
Damn then fortify is good as fuck.

Gonna start using it asap i'm at cruel
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>>128456970
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>>128456970
kill urself my good man
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>>128456405
yes. but I'm using it atm with:
+ minion damage, + melee damage, + melee splash, + multistrike and the skulls can hit whatever they want, whole groups of mobs goes POOF in maps.
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>>128456970
that's a pretty nice crow
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>>128457112
should I touch it?
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>>128457315
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Anyone know how rare +1 End Charges are? Thinking of vaaling my headhunter
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>>128457558
don't do it retard
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>>128456970
i would fuck that crow
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>>128457558
V A A L
A
A
L
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>>128457609
>>128457784
The question was how rare are +1 End charge implicits, I think I've vaaled a couple dozen decent belts and still not a single one.
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where my trade system at you fat kiwi
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http://strawpoll.me/6524667
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>>128457897
My favorite one, especially with flask Duration being one of the most OP stats in the game.
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>>128458123
>captcha
nope

also

nope.

no one fucking cares about PvP. it was a fuckfest in d2, and it's a fuckfest here with the same concept of who can shoot first.

if anything we need real content like more maps, better trading systems and maybe, the removal of cruel or better act quality than act 4
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>>128452574
>wow guys if i treat a video game like a job while oversimplifying the fact that trading in poe is like a job i can now finally play the game the way it's intended to be played -- a job that you don't get payed to play or if you do you make less than a burger flipper
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http://strawpoll.me/6524667
So, what ideas do you have?
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>>128458290
I wish I could treat a job like a videogame
I wish I could get a job that I could enjoy like I enjoy videogames
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>>128458352
>>128458123
fuck off idiot. literally no one cares about PvP. even standard players don't care about PvP.
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Is there any point in doing the Fairgraves A3 quest? I always do it because I'm a neet but it gives nothing except a trash ring right?
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>>128458658
>he doesn't know
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>>128458059
He doesn't look well at all, is he dying?
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>>128458758
he's already dead inside
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>>128458727
Are you trying to meme me?
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>there is a faggot who keeps deleting his posts as if it wasnt an anonymous chink forum
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>>128458446
that's exactly what poe is my friend a job you don't get paid or get paid too little to get by playing
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>>128459249
but its fun.

its more like a hobby that gives you like 2$ an hour, which is better than most hobbies where you invest 500$
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>>128459249
I want to get paid to do something I enjoy, but I assume if there's something you enjoy and you start getting paid for it you will no longer enjoy it after a while
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psa: you can keep reave stacks if you zone into another area the exact second it wears off, you dont have the indicator at the top but the increased aoe stays. it goes away in you go to a town or master area.
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>there are people here who don't RMT their items at the end of the league

literally free money as I'll personally never touch my items again once they're in standard if I was really hardcore I'd delete my characters but eh. I like getting names
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>>128459352
>>128459370
that's the whole point. it's not fun playing poe like a job because that's the only way to experience the game. a job that doesn't pay good enough to do anything.
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>>128459512
>literally free money
yeah, nah. i'll be forced to play self found and not "playing" your job.
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>>128459512
>literally free money

the good rmt sites all need me to give some kind of personal info or something

and others rmts just want to jew me like i was peaceful palestinian enjoying life in gaza

i rather delete those chars with everything in them
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>>128458352
i already fucking told you yesterday this game already has "dark souls pvp". there just isnt a demand for the event to begin again
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>season hasn't even begun yet
>poe already btfo
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delivering on the daily meme :^)
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>>128460964
I know a lot of ppeople here don't keep up with D3 but their Dev team is actually one of the better ones that Blizzard owns. also I really enjoy playing on the PTR
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>>128461505
>le power creep
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>>128461980
How is this an argument, PoE does this exact same thing

>buff every spell by 20%
>give new mechanic (jewels, ascendancy classes, new support gems)
>nerf only the FOTM shit by way too much

The only thing nerfed in D3 was SC monk (which was broken in groups, balanced for group play now as of PTR) and support monks (unintended design of mantra of healing +blinding light).

D3's gimmick is already getting 12 lines of damage, isn't that the point? Unlike PoE GRs progress exponentially in difficulty without a cap, whereas PoE caps at t15.
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Daily missions in PoE really grind my gears. Whose fucking idea were they? This shit belongs in WoW.
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>>128461980
>calling d3 out on power creep when poe is literally a power creep simulator
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>>128462689
At least PoE's mechanics are much deeper than DPS and damage reduction.
Literally all Blizzard did in the new patch was either buff the damage bonuses of shitty items by 1000% or add conditional 50% damage mitigation.
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>>128419827
>>128420862
Here the tree
https://www.poebuilder.com/character/AAAAAgQAFey5HelGypCE2b02R36-p2VNeWipbnfjAdxfP8EEmSu9gamUeHqHaoTvqScS4aLqXhOS0Eh43DLFU2FS704FPCcgiiIs-yFVwKYHddw9028uU9rBWhrDM0Mx_muuUGEhZacTye8OFCDkUVBHKS58uBo-OQ4Jlpd5hVLrCVcN2WG77ZHOlmz462hl890TTCb4F-FOMmRSWf4wd-JhwaPGroNfPC1o8q9sC2GiAPAfBLPAZu98PAV82fcy6hhyqcT2bzvAGg==


In the pic my weapon i use Cyclone+Conc+fortify+MP+BM+Addedfire damage.

I use Determination + Hatred since herald of ash only give 3k of the dps to my build i prefer to have more 4k of def.
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>>128463142
>At least PoE's mechanics are much deeper than DPS and damage reduction.


>lightning coil
>binos
>mjolner
>shavs
>any of this
>deep

>>128463142
That's because *gasp* they're different games!

Literally every support gem in PoE is 50% more damage or some lifestyle change, runes in D3 and masteries change the way you play, not the items. And even then, set bonuses are the ones that change gameplay - see Raekors, Weight of the Earth, Inna's, that new Thorns set, Firebirds. Those fundamentally change playstyle.

Heck, even endless walk is much better designed than most endgame uniques in PoE.

I play PoE way more than D3 but come on man, your post was low hanging fruit
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>>128463391
what the fug
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>>128463391
wtf are those links.

are you retarded
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>>128463391
ye this aint a skill tree for wings of entropy so you should just put a diff axe desu
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>>128460964
Yes because views clearly is a good indicator how good a game is right? I mean Black Friday from Rebecca Black has over 88 million views must be a good song right?
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>>128463142
>At least PoE's mechanics are much deeper than DPS and damage reduction.
LEL

that's exactly what poe is, retard.

you can slice it in precisely the same number of ways.

the only thing poe does is calls the same thing a different name

>lel guise es is totally different because you can't use life flasks
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>>128463902
woah are you mad.

but honestly D3 is really fun. just like grim dawn. if you can't see the good qualities in D3, how can you see the bad qualities in poe? both games do something better in their own regard, and worse in something else.
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>>128434872

London Caliphate McDonald's
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>>128464058
>mad
Keep thinking that.

I had fun playing through D3 content too but endgame was pretty boring to me desu. The bad qualities of PoE is that the story isnt as well told as in D3.
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I want D3 babbies to leave.
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>>128463825
I have all the refunds, what you recommend to remove?

I think i see what is wrong i don't picked the block chance from the tree...
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>>128465949
d3's story telling is the absolute worst. the only thing good about the story is the production value of the cut scenes. the story itself is completely and utter shit, made worse by its game crippling presentation. the story is literally the reason they had to make adventure mode it was so shit people hated it so much the fanbase demanded a way to level without suffering through it,
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>find some nice upgrades for my witch
>equip
>the helmet looks dumb on her and doesn't mesh with the rest of the gear
>explain to the seller and ask for my money back
>he adds me to his ignore list
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>>128467101
Use skin transfer faggot
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>>128467101
>sell headgear to some witch
>finally got enough for the item I want
>she messages me
>"your hat looks like shit give me my money"
>yeah no
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>>128466312
I thought D3 story was pretty good presented. In the end it all comes down to an own subjective opinion I guess.
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>>128467281
literally pay2win
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>>128466059
the weapon is wrong
if i did a woe build i would do something like this

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwYAsNii2cgU9W9qjBa_D6smlW1sYeI2PbVIVUudqlWFbIyly2KstMXC7NvnBbVHBo2_0NBRR16Lj_rP6T7PMHzd5_DVXEDrjr3mjX2DvUlRlS5UvZP8I_YHHhXtLghNkqOKlovuDrGz1bn8xQxzG60NjZVmW6-HdgOHTipnoOOf035M_0p9AF59dUMxGY7-utrBV5fDM-2DdO0R1VoaCC4FLWNwLIV672BBIWC-p8GLdPGwq2VNgUHbpymlxIK9NjXvCViK8Ed-Ou3T_OlGhNmE76LqEuFhIa5Qe3Rlp6knkGyHag==
with the chaos support and some other stuff
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>some anon told me I'd be sick of ED+Contagion by level 40
>it's only gotten more intense and fun
your build must have been shit m8
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just one week of playing in the new league.
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>>128468005
how much does chris pay you to shitpost about essence drain
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>>128468323
>4 tabs

huheuahuehauehhehauehu
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>>128468323
>vendor trash uniques
>you don't vendor them
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>>128468497
i fucked up and bought Grim Dawn, still i have an entire account of little shits and their inventories full of perandus crap.
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>>128468323
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>>128467484
>D3 story was pretty good presented
>Cain
>Butterflies
>Saturday morning cartoon villains
>Medieval pagers
>Hell's greatest tactician telling you his plot the whole way through
>scripted cut scenes
>segregating the bosses from the flow of the game in order to make the retarded story presentation work

the only good thing about it was the lore books because they didn't interfere or slow down gameplay in any way.

the boss fights are particularly egregious. they break the flow of the game and serve as a presentation platform for their hideous story and cut scene elements. every boss fight feels like a retarded version of a WoW raid boss. they should have just copied how diablo 1 and 2 did bosses where they almost all spawn in the map without a retarded immersion killing introduction. the diablo boss fight alone is so bad holy shit i want to kill myself now.
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>>128468323
>4tabs
Cmon anon you gotta gitgud.

Pretty decent haul tho
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>>128468323
>all that shit filling your tabs

something tells me ggg is running out of ways to make money

they should just switch to pay to play. coming from d3 with free skin transfers and tabs and much higher quality everything

i just can't say poe's model is going to work going forward. they bought it on themselves. they wanted to make a niche game, saw dollar signs, started pandering to reddit casuals, developed a huge playerbase and now they don't have the talent to keep those casuals buying shit
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Can anyone give me pointers for elemental equilibrium? I mean, I understand that if I hit a mob with lets say aarc, and then throw a lightning or cold spell at him, he will take 50% more damage from that spell. However, how reliable is this? I'm looking at a SRS build using arc to help but SRS goes everywhere all the time and the arc totem cant possibly keep up with that, so I'm assuming that its not THAT usefull for such a build. Is this correct?
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>>128467664
If everyone thought that way GGG would go bankrupt. Its like a few bucks or do you really think every f2p game costs no money to develop. There's people that keep buying supporter packs but I drew a line somewhere I don't want to spent more money on PoE anymore.
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>>128469695
I mean arc THEN a ***fire*** or cold spell
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>>128468863
>Hell's greatest tactician telling you his plot the whole way through

this irked me

this VA was well done tho, as well as his gf's

D3 has a superior waifu tho, and she's still to come back from ded
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>>128469695
minions won't proc your EE

if you EE with arc, they will stay debuffed and take 50% more fire/cold, even after getting hit by srs

if you have the spare links to use EE, you should
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>>128469632
I think on average people pay at least 60 dollars on the store if not more. A lot people get multiple supporter packs. Compare this to D3 which costs 50-60 bucks and 30-40 for the expansion. In the end you spent about the same if not more. D3 prices are fixed while in PoE its not maybe you want even more tabsbor that sweet looking skin transfer which costs you RL money.
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>>128470164
OH. well that changes everything then, thank you.
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>>128470670

is there even a d3 gen again?
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>>128470354
>I think on average people pay at least 60 dollars on the store if not more
so you think they've made over 660 million dollars on poe? i really doubt they've made anywhere near that. not a half or a quarter maye a tenth that?

i think the filler crap they're blatantly putting in the game is a sign they're desperate to sell stash tabs, their money maker. it will work to a degree, it's a sign there's a lot of accounts out there active without stash tabs.

really like i said they've ran into a problem by changing from a niche game to a mass appeal game. it's still a niche game that is far removed from the mechanics that made it a niche game, without the development team to pander to casuals. this is a recipe for disaster. it's like they want the best of both worlds but really it's neither.

this is one of the reason's i feel d3 is looking more attractive these days. poe failed to be the game it wanted to be. d3 was never the game i wanted but at least it does what it does well.
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>>128470354

thats an extremely high average

i would place it at a $20 average at most
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are you a "ty" or "t4t" guy?

no bonus points for being that " " autist
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>>128473802
i just say "gl"

or ty4 scam
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>>128473802
ty when buying
ty enjoy when selling
tyty if im really feelin it
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>>128452687
I'm playing Voltaxic Barrage with the new jewels and quiver at the moment and doing really well

Kinda the same playstyle as LA but barrage feels so much better to use
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>>128476192
which quiver?
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>>128476704
good one
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Just got a voltaxic from an inner treasure mob, is it fun to play or should i sell it?
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>>128477171
do you like the build you're running

if yes sell it and buy gear for your char

if no roll voltaxic la/blastrain/>>128476192
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>>128477171

no one is playing these leagues anymore, so its nearly worthless

leave your ign and ill take it off your hands for 5c
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there are people in this thread who think the tooltip dps isn't the true dps

>but muh projectiles and muh multiple hits

it's all fucking calculated faglord

>b-b-but blast rain

Nigger can't you read? THE TOOLTIP IS 100% ACCURATE
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>>128477869

pls stop
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>>128477440
Im running a MF build and i sure as hell dont like running around doing 0 damage
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>>128473802
"Thank you"
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>>128477869
there are people in this thread that are gonna fall for this b8
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>>128477171
it's pretty fun. LA with it is nice. You can do spark if you want to be a meme.
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>>128473802
always "ty" nothing extra
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So who was "Iron Will" and did he get a gem named after him? The comics dont expand on his char at all.
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>>128473802
tyvm gl when selling
ty when buying
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God damn it I'm getting addicted to this madness. So much fun. Just need some proper life/ES gear drop now and its golden.
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>>128473802
t4t ss
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>>128479254
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>>128479345
"ss" has to be the gayest thing you can type, grats
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>>128479730
only to faggots like you who fap to straight shota
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>>128479690
desu senpai I think it could be a great hc build. I might try next season, of course I would need to grind for hybrid build a lot more aggressively, some of my items are still sub-par.
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>real money auction house
>fixed game currency price player to player trades
>self found character creation option inside of each league

This is the best possible trade system. Developers make money to fund their game. You make money. Purists have a superior real money valuated trade system and self found player creation option. Why keep pretending like RMT doesn't exist? It has to happen.
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>>128480780
sc pls go
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>>128481116
>starcraft please go
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>>128481116
playerauctions.com rep pls go
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>>128477869
are you fucking serious?

point #1 penetration
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>>128481481
nobody uses pen
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>>128481481
>falling this hard to b8

and i bet hell reply 5 paragraphs to this >>128481607
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I want to level a ranger as fast as possible, what are the essential leveling uniques and skills i should use?

Death harp? Something in nights hold?
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>about to log in
>server are downs
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>>128482678
Chain+split arrow
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230 million strong
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>>128482678
storm cloud, golrim, wanderlust, ondars, tabula, 2 elreon rings, ice shot or sa
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Is there a standard talisman guild?
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>>128473802
"thanks, gl"
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>Hey I just started playing this game, can you give me tips
>Yeah get these 10 uniques. What do you mean you can't buy them? DROPPED
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so i managed to drag my glacial cascade witch to merc and i'm sick of that weak ass spell, it's too tricky to make powerful enough

what's 'the strongest' spell in PoE? i guess i could try and see if i can somehow salvage what i got
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>>128483189
no, poopcrow

>>128483549
who are you quoting?
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>>128483549

bye
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Any opinions on these 2 trees for a voltaxic LA build?

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwIAAF4B0QUtBiMILg2ND6sWvxmKGY4hdiPTI_YkiyT9JpUqCyo4LlMwfDH6Nj031DnUPs9DMUd-SRNKfUtXTP9Nkk4qUUdVS1oaW69d8l-wYENh4mKsZU1sjG1sbj1vJ2-eb_JwUnTtdct293cHeu97FH11fyuDCYTFhs6HE4d2idOJ4Iw2jX2Nfo9gkx-XBppqm7WcpJ2qoJ-hIqGkokCjiqfUr-u1SLe2u-O9Nr3mvoC-p8DjwTPDM8M6xKLKStNv037WitrB4dvjn-ZY51TqYu0_7YPuDu968bP0-PzF_rr-yP_e

and

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwIAm40ILu2DGY4AXtN-73p9dUQN9qP-usjwFSDdDSzpW6-GswDukAoUdQ2NTiohdipNd9eHdkz_I9OGzj8nR-JW-thg459DMY9gwTNKyCLifyvXLUp92sGNfsMziq9uqqQ5OdQwfEkPdO0uU7e2WhqQEbXydveNfVFHBS3Tb3XLe8M1kjH6I_Y31I2_51R67-pivqf-j9i9oJ9Nku0_BbXUIyT9ZU1N4_4KBnDC7BqN_969NqZX8kVOn7TFWyZHfjrhen8M8mKs2-d_-4TZpctsjGwInarxijY9bWwPq7VIFr8mlWHiVUuMNonTcFIqC2_y

I'm kinda new so i'm playing softcore still
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>>128483549
Who?
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>>128483549
it was fun and rewarding when i got into poe because there was no one holding my hand and donating gear
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>>128483802
try looking up a guide, both trees are bad
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>>128484045
Both builds are from guides that have lots of views and comments on the forums first page
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any pic of the new talisman, cant be ingame for some hours
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PATCH IS UP

W I T C H K N E E S
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>>128483802
top tree is fine, I started shadow and took the ele damage line out to trickery in place of the projectile ranger nodes. also instead of going deeper into duelist, I grabbed vitality void and spent the rest of the points in the north side of the tree getting the lightning wheel, lightning damage, and shock nodes.
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>>128484357
>Both builds are from guides that have lots of views and comments on the forums first page

if thats so, then its very sad
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fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck

They fixed the double dip bug for armor & evasion nodes
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A
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G
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>>128473802

ありがとう
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>>128485801
Why? Whats the proble with the first one?
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>>128477171
im trying to make a real railgun build for it (shrapnel shot + point blank)
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>>128488541
>>128488541

very point-intensive build with small amounts of life, literally zero defenses, and only one jewel slot suited for static electricity
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>>128484467

heres the hc one. generic spell damage talisman
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>>128490224
This is all pretty typical for softcore builds.

>>128483802
Youll get further by looking up HC builds and playing SC like its HC. If you enjoy trading in arpgs at all youll want to get out of SC asap.

You should try to cut trees down to 110 or 100 points, 120 points is unrealistic.
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>>128490864
>This is all pretty typical for softcore builds.

good sc builds dont skip defenses. you literally CANT level past 90ish if you die enough to average a single death every 10 maps
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>>128490224
https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwAAOyjylwOWm11uPaiaYEO-gFpSe8ODCUrIb55uqj8nykrxs5yktfIqTV-wS1eHE3JsNZJH4gDum7XA43cHbEb-j9i9IuIs6cM6hMUyCU3j_gqkOYazFSCJ4BmKKjgki6ZX8kUtg90N5liXBg-rOuEZtFuvkx_Eoha_bWy-pxR1DY1OKiF2SRMmlTY9tUjssGVNpMKHdiPThs5h4p2qG8iMC702Z6Djn49gbyfBM1VLbIzP3bl8R35KfZpq4J-MNmKs8YoFZonTcFIqC13yDkgRlpOVBx6tM5UuGdfw1UlR

t.ree railgun anon
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>>128491082
You can actually live in high tier maps off of just life and evasion as a crit bow character.

You wont be running any hard mods though.
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>>128471925
Let me rephrase that , I meant all the active players. I didn't mean all accounts. There was a research on another f2p game that had micro transactions. From the active players players would averagely spent around $60 and there was a good amount going even over that.

PoE F2P might be a strong model but also has a weakness. Its accessible to new players. But if you're a real serious player doing endgame maps and stuff you're forced to buy several bundlesbi think you run out of tabs pretty quick at some point. I personally never bought any cosmetics besides skin transfer. They are pretty expensive I think its 500 or 600 points for the infernal set that's like 50 to 60 dollars. I still see a lot players end up spending more than you'd pay for a F2P game like D3vor GW2.
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>>128491304
i doubt you can do that 155% life, even assuming coil and blasfeeble which you will absolutely need past t10 maps
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>>128491682
Well there were 2 builds, one of them could easily have 180% life after cutting points.
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>>128473802
Thanks, stay safe

Hotkeyed to CTRL+2 thanks to Lut's AHK, lazymode overload.
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>>128491864
is vaal pact with like 6+ %leech not a good defense mechanism together with coil / Ic anymore
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>>128491620
>would averagely spent around $60 and there was a good amount going even over that.

i dont think you understand what an average is
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>>128492161
as long as you have enough life to not get 1 shot
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>>128490861
thanks. aint that bad I guess
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>>128491620
>I still see a lot players end up spending more than you'd pay for a F2P game like D3vor GW2

I'm pretty sure both those games have made a lot more than PoE.

There was a time I would have agreed with PoE's business model but I just think they're being held back by it now and will continue to be in the future.
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>>128492883
heres the second one
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>>128491273
Why take crit nodes on a voltaxic build?

Seems like a waste of stats to me with that fucking base crit
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>>128493157
Theres no such thing as a non-crit bow build.
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>>128493281
not that guy but you can just not take crit nodes and scale chaos a bit harder. thats what id do anyway,
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>>128491682
One of the builds was a build from the #3 ranking player in sc talisman, so i guess it kinda works?
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>>128493281
but you'd have to scrape shit together and use bullshit like maligaro's and rat's nest with double crit rings and not even get over 35% crit

I'd honestly rather stick with my snakebite, devoto's devotion and stat stick jewelry while having much higher base damage
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>>128493483
Its still terrible compared to going crit.

Even with a 6% base.
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>>128493737
You have 35% crit chance with just power charges
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CI sucks, that's all
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>>128493578

imo a build is good when it gives anyone using it a solid footing into the game, not just someone who happens to be skilled at playing eva builds or managed to get enough currency to cover the build's weaknesses with very good gear
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>>128494162
A build based around a multi exalt unique is not a build that has to follow those rules.

Anyone playing Voltaxic already has experience playing the game.
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>>128494517
then why isnt everyone with a voltaxic already 100 or close?

rng doesnt grant you experience with the game
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>>128495040
Because this game is fucking boring as hell past 90 and only complete autists get to 100 before rerolling.
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>>128495131
i still doubt having a voltaxic or any good unique instantly makes you an expert in this game
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>>128495480
I never said that.

I just said that if you have a Voltaxic youre likely not completely retarded and have played through the game once or twice.

So theyre likely at a point where they can learn how to survive with shit defenses and they might actually know what killed them when it happens.
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>>128494157
Its good if you spend over 9000 ex in gear
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>>128495703
>>128495480

In fact this is exactly the kind of build that someone with some game knowledge should be playing.

Those tanky never die builds just set you up to act like a complete fucking moron and sit in everything. The second they venture out of that build they die to every mob and start bitching about how the game is too hard.
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>>128495964
>In fact this is exactly the kind of build that someone with some game knowledge should be playing.

someone who fits in that profile would not be looking at the forum for builds tho
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>>128496456
Ive looked for forums builds my entire poe career.
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>>128496602
i havent looked at a forum build in over 3 years

usually i have a pretty good idea of i want/need in a build. but i guess to each their own
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>Get whisper WTB your Vertex Mask listed for 2 exalts
>Invite player
>grab mask
>Trade
>Player puts 1ex in window and hits ok
>Cancel trade
>Player asks ????
>It's 2 exalts, look at your whisper
>1.5ex
>No, 2 exalts
>leaves

Fucking retards everywhere.
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>>128497131
while he did say "listed", not "for"

that he didnt actually haggle and expected you to take the price cut does mean hes a retard
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>>128497131
>>128497941
people do that all the time to me. if you want to haggle then haggle. i dont get what their problem is

>maybe if i surprise him with my offer in the trade he'll just accept it as his fate!
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>>128499273
>maybe if i surprise him with my offer in the trade he'll just accept it as his fate!

Any item I have up for 5 or less chaos ill just accept whatever they put in the trade window. I dont feel like dealing with people.
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Are any of you guys active in the SEA servers? I haven't played for more than a year, is desync still a thing?
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>>128499707
ty for scam :)
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Who Tobaxxo/SSC/BMSR here?

Best grinding music
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>>128500426
I prefer to listen to the FF13 soundtrack. Its easy to listen to, but it doesnt put you to sleep.

Say what you want about the game, the music was top tier.

https://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=7C498688F14F6A0D
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any of you play linkrealms
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>>128501069
>Say what you want about the game
k
its shit
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>>128502196
I liked it.

Better to have straight lines than an open world with nothing in it.
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Found this gem, would it work well into a hc viable burning shot build ?
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>>128502086
no but it looks interesting
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>>128502562
The only reason to use this jewel is if you were playing Flame Surge with a bow and you linked Burning Arrow to a totem with chance to ignite and faster attacks.
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>>128502793
it is but i haven't played it in a while. i just got an email about an update. it's kinda like ultima online.
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>>128493916
are you retarded the base crit is only 5%

even with 5 power charges you'd only have 17.5%
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>>128497131
>has a shop
>complains about it
simply retarded
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Oh man, red Blade Vortex.

What will the brilliant minds at GGG think of next?
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>>128503731
blue?
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>>128503731
red bladefall
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>>128503613
the base crit is 6

still it wouldnt be 36
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>>128503613
6% Base
332% Crit chance from tree(Could easily get more)
150% Crit from charges
482% Crit

4x6=24
4x.82=3.28
24+3.28+6
33.28% crit
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>>128503731
those look a lot like dragon dildos
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>>128503929
Whoops, I messed up that second line, its actually 34.92% crit
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>>128503929
how would one procure these fabled power charges without selfcasting like a shitter?

already using hot to curse warlords for end charges and I don't think those are worth giving up for a marginal increase in damage, already melting bosses in 5 seconds with current aura setup (HoT, AA and PoL)
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RF/Doon spellcaster with efficient training? yes/no?

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwAA2E2UoNpiaHQYVvnoQYe3PoPM_go8LfJF2L3GroNfOuE1kgthrj4MX8T2plf-j69sZ5scpyftTeNo8uRRU6UGDhku8B9QR9R82WGiAO8OCfatjQSzFCDPfsBmXz88BUVH9kjvfDLRxFjr7prgfIOnCEWdES2PRlNSLJyboSt4GGofxzlSLYtYB20Zl_QI9CL0UlPAVGwLPV9qQ5Mnf8bviBGW-TcOSNfPtzBJsehaJoiXlUyz0B_v6wQHg9tVxuvkXyrFiny7OtgnL5BVGjgHHpUu8NVJUY_6XECHy6ebdZ7PFQ==
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>>128503929
>all that spaghetti arithmetic when you can just do 6(5.82) like a normal person

>>128504325
probably with volls, would be the simplest way

likely not worth it tho. if you had 2x you would be able to use ass mark but you didnt plan for that
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>>128504325
Well if you only want to use 1 curse and its going to be Warlords, then youll need a power charge on kill neck.

If you want to do double curse you can use Windscreams and continue using HoT curse on hit. If you have a second 5L I prefer to use Split+Chain+CoH.

Personally I would use HoT+Assassins and just cast Enduring Cry because thats how im used to playing everything.

This is also without any other crit gear, so you could make it up by getting decent crit gear.

>>128504624
I was doing it in my head and splitting up numbers into quickly solvable problems and then adding them up is the way I learned.
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>lockstep still desyncs
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>>128504624
Im using meme coil though

>>128504815
power charge on kill neck is way too difficult to get with mods and rolls you want

enduring cry is definitely an option for end charges, but at the moment my dps is so high with voltaxic I can coast through all sub-t10 content at level 72 currently so I'd rather focus on defenses
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>>128504832
>having shit ping
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>>128501069
>say what you want
Ok :^)

The FF13 soundtrack was shit, and if you have listened to any of the others, i'd actually be surprised that you found it enjoyable.
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>>128504574
is this for some meme conversion spell?

im doing something similar for bv. it works
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>>128491620
>you're forced to buy...
no faggot
it's a game you play for free
if you want more tabs to store things, you can pay
paying a tiny bit for stash tabs when you've played long enough to get to end game is still cheaper than buying a new game
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>>128441214
>>128504574

Honestly you need to stop with these joke builds

I laugh for about 2 seconds, but only if I'm drunk.
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>>128505859
what do you mean conversion spell?
>>128506070
Whats memey about my build?

Its a standard RF build except less on the red side of the tree. Was hoping I could still scale strength with jewels placed somehow
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>>128502331
a straight line with nothing in it still isn't good buddy
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>>128506201
https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwAABAcEswceCPQLYQxfDkgRLRGWFCAYVhhqGS4aOBynH8ci9CaIJy8reCycLYsy0TWSOVI62DrhPAU8LT1fQYdFR0WdSVFJsUyzTeNQR1JTU1JTpVXGVw1YB18qXz9nm2hlaHRo8mpDbAttGXyDfLt_xoIHg1-DzIPbj0aQVZMnlKCVLpeVl_Sa4JuhogCmV6cIrY2uPq9stzC3PsBUwGbEWMWKxq7PftAf0iHUj9fP2E3Yvdlh2mLkUeha6-Tr7u8O73zviO_r8B_w1fJB8kXzm_ZI-Tf56P4K_o8=

>>128506070
>>128441214

this any better?
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>>128506232
True, but I still enjoyed the game.

I enjoyed it more than the first 9 at least.
Dunno why all the shitty earlier games that didnt age well at all get ported to pc but 12 gets left behind.
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>1% of Damage is taken from Mana before Life per Power Charge

Is this substantial enough to care about? build 9 charges around?
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>>128504832
>desync no longer desyncs
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>>128506436
>I enjoyed it more than the first 9 at least.

well this speaks a lot about the state of your brain, young man
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What's the lore explanation for the fact that I can literally get to the western forest passage faster than Piety can get to it and block it off...

But I still can't enter before her?
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>>128507194
she held you back with her thaumaturgical skills
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>>128507308
but I was using my own thaumaturgical skills that allowed me to move faster than her and i reached the doorway before she did???????????????
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>>128506436
>I don't like it therefore it's bad
it's like I'm really on /v/
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>literally got banned from global 1 for 2 because I said "ty for scam" in response to some other player that posted another bit of the meme
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>>128507994
or /mu/
or /v/ (I mean, we're on /vg/)
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>>128508106
>for 2
I never typed that though
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>>128508106
>turn chat on
>lose 20 fps

nice game poetards
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>>128508579
This simply isn't true.
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>>128508929
It used to be when people used trade chat
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>>128509168
trade chat does not currently, and literally had never had an impact on my FPS

I've been playing since 2011

I guess that doesn't really mean that it wasn't a thing, but,,, I can';t relate to the post,
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>>128509398
Back before 2.0 it would make my framerate and latency go crazy, I assume it had something to do with people linking walls of shitty items.
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probably the best item I have ever picked up. Too bad I can't use it :(.
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>>128510021
why cant you use it?
what league?
can i have it?
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>>128510112
Don't have a life based build and my other char is MFer. I could make something I guess but I don't want to level again. It's TSC. I have it on poe.trade for 2ex.
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>>128510280
>SC
>2EX
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I rolled a contagion/ED build and its so ass, I want a free respec
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>>128511591
>ummm... this build is bad. where is my free respec, GGG?
>>
How much do those tabs you can name yourself cost when they're on sale?
>>
>Malachai Tele-Explode on a zombie
>a cloud of SRS is also there attacking a random mob
>Because of minion instability, this cause the whole area of minion to explodes as well, killing Malachai
top lel
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>>128512429
Sale prices are literally random

It's part of their RNG game
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>>128512914
>it was talisman standard core
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What's the deal with hall of grandmasters?

Some of these assholes are completely unkillable, I can't get through their ES, they hit like trucks...

I have 70k WW DPS (flasked) and 5.5k life.
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>>128497941
Just no. If I go to the black market and buy this book for 10 bucks and only put in 5 bucks without saying a thing how do you think the seller reacts?

he is retarded because kept spamming ??? and acting suprised I did not accep the 50% lower amount after whispering me he wanted to buy it at the b/o price listed on poe.trade.
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>>128514056
you cant exactly 1vs1 some asshole who is wasting your time (tho being able to initiate combat on your own hideout would be cool), but there should be a rep-based system to rank buyers and sellers
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>>128513753

Lots of them are maxed block/spellblock with aegis and shit.

There is practically no reward for doing it though, just vendor the map desu.
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>>128513753
Thats because your build is shit.

>>128515654
>implying

their chests at the end have guaranteed items, unqiues, currency, quality gems and chance at cards for mirrors+atziris disfavour.
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>>128515943
What type of build would one need to even stand a chance? I am level 88 using taste of hate + atziri's promise, 70k WW DPS, 4500 armor non flask, 6k life, 45 LGOH, 3.4% leech running AA/Hatred/HoA and I can't dent a level 85 assholes energy shield which regens nearly instantly.

There is no opportunity to gain flask charges in the fights.
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>>128516134
my SRS did it pretty easily in 2.0 - the ONLY person I couldn't kill was that Dyness tank dude because his CWDT+Firestorm but otherwise I could do everything deathless and easily, including Aegis faggots and permafreezers

Your build is fucking nothing kiddo.
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>>128516134
>6k life
>a lot
>70k life
>a lot

I take it you've never been level 90+
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>>128513404
indeed, and?
>>
Can you mf cull barrels?
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>>128518630

No, IIR and IIQ is not applied to barrels, chests or strongboxes of any sort.
>>
sc > hc
>>
are you retarded?
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>>128520854

>gear has no value
>bots flooding the market
>100:1 c:ex
>challenges mean nothing
>content means nothing
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>>128521467
>>128521467
>>128521467
>>
Havent played or even bothered to read up on the game after a few months

Any fun cheap builds you recommend for me to dive right back into with?
>>
So, I've found some ____fun_____.

Arctic Breath linked to Power Charge on Crit and GMP, in a Bitterdream. I'm also /kinda/ aiming for this skilltree. Though it changes as I work my way through things. Just cleared Normal. Should get more interesting from here with monsters getting more res.

https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwMBBUIQWBEPES0RUBXnFvMXVBzcHaofGB_HIG4igSL0JNgmPCt4LJwtiy-dMjQy0TW5N4E6WDsNPAU9X0GWRKtFR0ZxTC1Ms05tUDBQQlF0UftSKVJTUrJTNVPUVEdVrlXGVeBWSlhaXfJmVGwLbRlwu3OzfIN-x3_GghCCm4UyhW2Fe4w2jYKOPI7pjxqPRo-mj_qTJ5UEl5WX9Jo7nDKdrp6hnsSfAZ_foS-io6XEppmmvqcIpyusmK6zr5u0DL6KwGbBxcrTzRbQ0ND10eTVgdWm2CTbXt-w4YjjVuTr5Yvr7uwY7DjtPO987-vwa_nb_kk=
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>>128506475

Its not super huge and something to build around. But if you are crit mom its a really nice thing to have.
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>>128523057

You know what anon? That does sound like fun.

Why do people keep throwing fun builds at me, i just got my oro flicker striker running.
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>>128516134
EA will tear through grandmasters because it's the most broken skill in the game pvp-wise
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>>128523556
I literally had a buddy go "Hey, I got an itch to play (some new build he had in mind), you got anything you want to start on?" and I thought of doing something fun with Arctic Breath. This is where I am after a week or so if tinkering.

Build is cheap as shit so far as well.

Bitterdream, Icetomb, Rime Gaze when I've got the level for it... Shavronne's Pace and an Imp Dagger in my off hand. I'm kinda glass cannon-y, but that was the plan all along.
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>>128523057

Corrupt the bitterdream so it will get a lvl 10 faster casting implicit.

Free 10 link.

>>128523903

Not just pvp related, it recks hall of grandmasters because the exiles start out in lines, so you can stack up a shit ton of dmg on them as they activate instantly wrecking them.

For other skills just slap a reduced block chance into it.

>>128523982

Awww snap, im on HC, i need some defences.
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>>128524082
I'd have to get more Bitterdreams to brick. I'll work on that.
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>>128523556

Friendly reminder that Oro flicker is objectively worse than Oro IB.
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>>128525219
what's the downside of it?
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>>128524387

What do you think about a hybrid life ES build with it

http://poedb tw/us/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwYBAW8EBwVCBx4N0Q_EEQ8RLxGWFr8XVB1PHwIgbiTYJpUqCysKLJwtHzW5Nj02xTeBOlg7fD1fQZZFfEcGSVFJsUwtTLNQMFF0UlNSslPUVUtVxlxrXfJh4mKsY0NknWyMcFJ_xoPbhEiFbYnTi3qMNo2CjumP-pMnlSCVLpeVl5edqp8BoqOmmacrrrO0OLjKwfPDbdAf0NDQ9dHk1YHXz9gk217i9-NW44Tk6-UZ62Pr9e-I7-vw1fId8uH5N_v1

Enough crit?

>>128525219

And objectively way less fun. Also flicker oro could be a lot better at single target dmg.
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>>128525749

Downside of ORO anything is 10% increased phys dmg taken, and pure elemental dmg which is harder to scale.
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>>128525783
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>>128525898
Loaded just fine for me.

>>128525783
Pretty interesting. I'll bookmark that in case I head that direction later.

However...
>not using the delicious witch
...I'll have to tweak it a tad.
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>>128525783

All fire, elemental and area damage you use to scale your Oro attack is also applied to the IB explosion make it one of the, if not the best, fire scaling melee skills.

Also Flicker is dangerous because you can't control where you go.
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>>128525898
>>128526054

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwYBAW8EBwVCBx4N0Q_EEQ8RLxGWFr8XVB1PHwIgbiTYJpUqCysKLJwtHzW5Nj02xTeBOlg7fD1fQZZFfEcGSVFJsUwtTLNQMFF0UlNSslPUVUtVxlxrXfJh4mKsY0NknWyMcFJ_xoPbhEiFbYnTi3qMNo2CjumP-pMnlSCVLpeVl5edqp8BoqOmmacrrrO0OLjKwfPDbdAf0NDQ9dHk1YHXz9gk217i9-NW44Tk6-UZ62Pr9e-I7-vw1fId8uH5N_v1

Here alternative in case it fucks it again.

>>128526067

Wont even argue that flicker strike is not dangerous.

I had quite a few almost heart attacks with my phys flicker, when it jumped me into packs of bearers. The positive thing is tough that you dont need to run, its a movement + dps skill.

Honestly, i just want to give it a good go. IB hits slow and hard and clears packs easy, maybe struggles a bit with solitary bosses. But damn is flicker fun with a ton of aspd.
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>>128526610
Oh, I should also note that I'm using Frostbite with Blasphemy. Fuck I wish Blasphemy had been around longer. Shit's cash.
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>>128527597

Blasphemy was the best support gem added ever in the history of PoE.
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>>128526610
looks like a sc build
if it is then i guess it's fine
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>>128528262

SC?

You wat? 120% life with 160%+ ES should get me around 7k total hp pool easy. Im not going low life and everything will be covered with ice ground.

Do you only play builds in HC that have 250% life and at least 350% ES?
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>>128528262

There, cleaned the build up a bit, took aditional frenzy charge because it would use Bitterdreams for frenzy charges. And yea, im worried about not having another layer of defence besides a huge hp pool as well, i could grab 2% block chance and 5% spell block, but not much more you could gain in the witch tree.

The only adjustment that could and maybe should be made for HC is to change from shadow to qt 3.14 witch for the more defensive starting nodes compared to shadows ele dmg up too Trickery.
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>>128528869

Fucking derp

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>>128528401
chaos damage
you still need a good life pool for hybrid
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>>128529092

120% hp is not good enough? The fuck?

People were running low life with 0% life with 60%+ chaos res.
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>>128529157

if you have run low life with 60% chaos res an have no shavs/lorica you will die to almost any chaos damage
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>>128529157

Its still suicide without shavs because low life is around 50-200 life. That's still a near one shot even with +60% chaos res.
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>not blasting the Katamari OST while playing PoE
Naaa Na Na Na NaNaNa
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMH49ieL4es&index=6&list=RDgFLJX-T7LPk
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>>128530990
holy shit my nigga

favorite vidya of all time, love that ost too
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>>128530625
>>128530858

You guys sure you are playing the same game?
You do realize base hp has been buffed a ton? Low life at lvl 80 is 330+ hp. With 0% increased hp and 1 str.

And chaos dmg is balanced around having 0% chaos res, so getting it to 75% makes you nearly immune to it, especially considering there are very few pure chaos attacks and most are composite.
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>>128530625
>>128530858

Also keep in mind im not running low life. I only said that people who ran low life with high chaos res were fine, i will have 120% life + life on gear as a buffer.
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Rate my Duelist build. Viable? Planning to have fun with two-handed mauls.
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>>128531262
Hell yes
A+ taste

>>128532384
it's decent but you should try adding some skill points to your tree, they help with livability desu senpai
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>>128532384
>>128532446

I'm a derp.

https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwQBuR0V7JkrvYHKkITZqZSHanh6qSeE79rBLlPTb0Mxv9VTu0SeIWB08SmlQKBeEyFVLPuKIicg3D0HdcCm705hUpOoERpza1dUirNhIRpVNugB5xv6Jd-2LKQZpzCfy57N8pxul_e-0iFqHmo7HOfyLxo-fLgpLvGsXz8UIO8OUEfkUZd5CZY5DusJnld2f37ghMR7jFcN85toZfPd-OvqGFHmd1M7O57FlIe0LyE0QT_fsvcyfNlyqVWpl7RqAYnYaFjXlsT2xq79MIiPGuRqpYZg5K1nWGCRGelgxDpSDjzfv9tP4MMlvLyfGJH8SxRN829J1Qm7
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>>128532467
https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwQBuR0V7JkrvYHKkITZqZSHanh6qSeE79rBLlPTb0Mxv9VTu0SeIWB08SmlQKBeEyFVLPuKIicg3D0HdcCm705hUpOoERpza1dUirMB5xv6Jd-2LKQZpzCfy57N8pxul_e-0iFqHmo7HOfyLxo-fLgpLvGsXz8UIO8OUEfkUZd5CZY5DusJnld2f37ghMR7jFcN85toZfPd-OvqGFHmd1M7O57FlIe0LyE0QT_fsvcyfNlyqVWpl7RqAYnYaFjXlsT2xq79MIiPGuRqpYZg5K1nWGCRGelgxDpSDjzfv9tP4MMlvLyfGJH8SxRN829J1Qm78kGCB9l8

Just realized I could save three points and get lots more armor.
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>>128532593

I was about to meme you with LMAO NOT EVEN 250% life

But dude, that bait build really fucking hurts my eyes. Its something someone would actually plan for and that is why it sucks so bad. Its genuinely believable.
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>>128532764

B-but... I was serious...
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>>128532764
Can you explain what is wrong instead of being condescending towards him? Come on anon
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>>128532384
>>128532467
pretty disastrous, most people here would consider this a bait build and not even reply but I will give it a try I guess
you are stubbornly avoiding all good %life clusters in plain reach and grabbing WAYYY too many, way too inefficient melee nodes

here's my attempt at salvaging, from 78% life to 222% with less points https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwQBmy1fOYrw6UbEgrCrvqdlTb02R36E2QHcd-OpbnlowQRfP_ZIjM89_FhjxtgUIO8OUEfkUVW1ns3ynG6X977SIfJBggfZfBRxDjzfv9tP4MMlvKcwn8sB5xv6Jd-2LKQZFE38S7yfGJHAGm87eA218nJsbEYyCTWS2L3-CvJFOuGmV03j_o-plIdqNuiGYGFSxVPcMkh4BTyTqBEac2tXVIqz705eE0CgIVXcPQd1wKZ67wUtdO346-oYdqzPfq2N9zJ82XKpVamXtGoBUeZ3Uzs7nsU=
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>>128531902
you need a decent life pool for hybrid. like 5k minimum with with some chaos res aswell
go ahead and run your sc build and see how far you go
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>>128532764

Dude, even on SC you want at least 130% life, thats like the minimum for a melee (unless you are ci).

And never build 123 point trees. Always go for around 100 points, everything above that is luxury points. And with that in mind look at the tree at 90 points and set priorities. What to get first what to get later. Do you push for dmg first or get life and armor first, and with that in mind plan your pathing one by one point over the tree.

Also 123 points is a tad unrealistic, because you will most likely take at least 2 bandit rewards making it more like 121 possible points max.

>>128533021

Ofc i will reply seriously, i mean i will still be condescending because fuck you. But i will at least put in an effort to educate him. But at no point it is required from me to be nice.
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>>128533095
Thanks! That really opened my eyes to some obvious flaws and easy ways to overcome it. I didn't realize how easy it would be to hit that huge life %+ circle just above the Duelist start area.
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>>128533179

Meant to link >>128532849
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>>128533179

Thanks for a more serious reply this time. The fact that you explained why certain things matter and why I should plan lower were very helpful. I'll revise the tree and repost it in a few thanks to both of your helpful input.
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>>128533095
>>128533179

I put it at 105 points to properly express all of the important bits. The last 20 points or so can go to some nearby damage boosts that are type-specific, or maybe elsewhere.
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>>128533705
did you forget the link again anon
DID YOU
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>>128533705
Forgot my link again! AGH

https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwQBuR0V7JkrvYHKkITZR369NmVNqZSHanh6qSeE79rBdO0FLXrvQKAhYHTxKaVeEyFV3D0HdcCmLPuKIicg705hUpOoERpza1dUirOGYDboWK-pbsAabzt4DbXyNZLYvf6PTeOmVzrh8kX-CjGeAecb-iXftiykGUSeU7u_1RRN_Eu8nxiRpzCfy57N8pxul_e-0iHyQYIH2XxqHmo7HOfyLxo-fLgpLl8_9kiMz8RYPfxYY8bYFCDvDlBH5FGeV3Z_fuCExHuMFHEOPN-_20_gwyW8
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>>128532593
>>128532849
The problems are:
You only have 92% increased max life, you'll want more atleast 170% (i'd say)
The tree uses 123 points which is excessive, your build should basically be done at around 100 points imo
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>>128533095
You can save like 5 points with better pathing near iron grip
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>>128533775
And I forgot Resolute Technique. Well, meh. It takes me to 109 points to have it. I also just now noticed that 10% all resistances node that would only cost 2 points to pick up. I'm bad at this. I don't need the most optimized thing really.
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>>128534096
lmao nigga what are you doing
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>>128534175

I don't know what I'm doing, really. That's why I ask for help.
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>>128534096

First locate cornerstones of your build. The most important keystones.

Aka, Resolute technique.
Then check the second most important thing. Hp clusters on the way to the keystones.
Third, decide on what you are using as a weapon if melee (mace, sword axe staff). And pick just the most optimal clusters that were on the way.

Then start branching out for more health, and always look for paths that lead past dmg clusters as you are going for hp and defences.
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>>128533775
its ok
it's wasteful to pick up those 10-12% melee phys nodes at marauder and duelist when you already have 300%+ damage bonus and could pick up more health or attack speed without travel instead but whatever

>>128533950
resistances from passives are a nice bonus but ultimately undesirable as you can easily cap resists with just your gear, it's fine for leveling but you'll want to spec out of those marauder resists eventually too

it's a practical enough build for a new player, dont worry too much about the details for now
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>>128534295
i always make a build and then check what other poeple have done to make sure i didn't drop the ball
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>>128533179
>But at no point it is required from me to be nice.
Well I'd hope not
The fact that you aren't required to be nice on 4chan is why it's so valuable and precious
Requiring people to be nice just makes it a formality instead of a kind gesture
You're not a robot, that's why I care about you <3
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>>128534776

I care about you too Lain poster.
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>>128534372
Ok, using your method I've restarted with the keystones that redefine the gameplay for the build (here Blood Magic, Resolute Technique, Unwavering Stance, and Iron Reflexes).

I think I got all of the HP clusters including the one out of the way. (I know I passed up Barbarism but it's right there so I can grab it with a few points.)

Then I tried to optimize the damage clusters, with some error factored in for my aesthetic preference.
How is it? Exactly 100 points, so there's room for me to beef up with some really good nearby clusters.

https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwQBuR0V7JkrvYHKkITZqZSHanh6qSeE79rBdO0FLXrvQKAhYHTxKaVeE-9OYVKTqBEac2uKs1dUhmA26AHnpzCfyzpSDjwUcfjr6hj3MnzZ37_bT-DDJbxYr6luwBpvO3gNtfI1kv6PTeOmVzrh8kX-CjGe2L2ezfKcbpf3vhRN_Eu8nxiRIVUs-4oiJyDcPQd1wKbyQYIH2XxVtcEEXz8UIO8OUEfkUfZIjM_EWD38WGPG2ESeU7u_1eStZ1hgxBnpYJFHfr02ZU0=
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>>128534995
pls no
just look up a build
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>>128534995

Starting to look a bit better.

Here my take on it.

http://poedb tw/us/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwQAAecFLQd1CZYOPBEaFCAUTRRxFewYkRnpIVUhYCW8JyAppSz7MZ41kjboOQ46UjrhPfxAoESeR35N41BHU7tXVFhjWK9eE18_YJFgxGFSZU1nWG87c2t07XTxdqx4DXh6eu982YIHhNmE74VShmCHaooiirOMz5Ool3mZK5_LplenMKknqW6plK2NtfK5HbyfvTa9gcAawKbEWMbYypDPfti92WHZfNrB20_cPd-_4MPkUeSt6hjrCe8O707yRfZI9zL46_xL_gr-jw==

Also look at the hp clusters. Nodes that give you just 4% are usually inefficient. So are most minor nodes unless they are on the path to something.

Still no idea why you would want to build around a lifeleech build, i guess maybe with the unique belt, but honestly. I would rather go with something like this:

http://poedb tw/us/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwQAAdwB5wUtB3UJlg48FCAUTRRxFewYkSE0IVUhYCW8JyAppSz7MZ41kjkOOlI64Ts7PfxAoEE_RJ5Gt0d-TeNQR1HmU7tYY14TXz9lTWhlbzt07XTxdqx3U3fjeA14enloeu982YIHhNmE74VSh2qKIozPl3mZK57Fn8umV6cwqSepbqmUrY20L7XyuR28n702vYHAGsCmwQTEWMqQz37Tb9i92WHZfNrB20_cPd-_4MPkUeoY6wnvDvJF8932SPcy-Ov8S_4K_o8=

And even this could be optimized a bit depending on what skill setup i would use.
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>>128507473
She owns the seal, those spiky things are just decorations
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Got my challenge and regular lv 90 achievment.
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>>128535552

I see what you're doing, and I think I get it now. Thanks!
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I Want to try a voltaxic build in softcore, the current build im at is only at 160% life from tree and is full evasion.

I heard its generally enough to not die in every high level map, what do you think? Should I get acro/phase acro/arrow dancing?

Im going sc cause I already have a voltaxic there and just want to test it a little
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>>128536726

>should I get the three best keynodes for an evasion build

idk its hard to say
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>>128536895
Im asking because the different builds I looked at only used either arrow dancing or acro and none of them used phase acro
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>>128536726

The fuck? Literally the best tanky nodes and you dont want to take them?

The only questionable node is arrow dancing, but then again you are a ranged character, you should not let melees hit you (except fucking devourers). Gotta keep on moving.

Also picking up just acro, is amazing for 1 point. Compared to the 4 point investment that is phase acro. But damn does that increase survivability.
>>
unironcally going to play d3 sc
>>
Should i spec for non-specific weapon damage (as in, "increased damage with one-handed weapons), or is it better to focus on an specific type of weapon (as in, *increased damage with daggers")?
>>
>>128536348
>9k hp
Grats anon

>>128536726
I'd say arrow dancing is bad, the rest are basically mandatory imo
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Why is shavs still allowed to be so good? I thought GGG hated fun and broken shit.
>>
>>128538009
whatever is more efficient per point invested
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>>128538258

>near immunity to all the extremely dangerous projectile attacks that shoot at you from the edge of the screen isn't worth a little melee evasion loss

heh
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>>128537689
no one plays hc in d3 anyway
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>>128538258
>I'd say arrow dancing is bad
I would have agreed in the past
However, with Blasphemy TempChains and being ranged in the first place, melee shouldn't be hitting you often enough for the evasion loss to be an issue
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>>128538809
there are barely any dangerous projectile attacks in the game. or ranged mobs in general

meanwhile enjoy getting your ass torn apart by blue grapplers
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Is this a bug? Alot of the same items dropped all at once?
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>>128539165

>projectile chaos snakes don't hurt
>cannibal firebomb throwers aren't fucking insane and one of the rippest big mob packs in the game

>grapplers being an issue when there is a cooldown and only one can flicker to you before they all die

Projectile attacks are far more dangerous than melee hits because 99% of melee hits can't be avoided by just being in melee range. Especially now with the global cooldown on mobility skills. Plus you can still have plenty of melee evasion anyway.
>>
>>128538258
Ty, pretty normal for a Kaoms BM build anon
>>
>>128539383
call ur isp
>>
>>128539406
from my experience, every projectile attack in the game can be sidestepped easily.

but there are melee attacks in the game that cover a huge area or involve a some swift gap closer. Kaom's doggies. Grapplers. Devos all popping up on you at the same time. bonus points if its a blue pack with some attack speed mods. god forbid you meet the groundslam exile with some rippy map mods
>>
>>128539913

I have no issue with any of those things, hell I almost never get hit anyway even with the 25% less and never hit with projectile attacks.

It's more than worth it in my experience.
>>
>>128483642
>m sick of that weak ass spell, it's too tricky to make powerful enough
cast on crit
>>
Muh "Self found" fags are actually so fucking cancerous. Is this the Crossfit of Poe.
>>
>>128539913
I've had no problems with Devo's since the patch to their AI making them unable to all pop up at the same time
Grapplers are dangerous due to discharge which you can't evade
Kaom's doggies are annoying, true, but I'm more scared of the chaos snakes because their damage comes in faster and chaos res is a pain to get in my build

groundslam exile isn't really effected because you can't evade groundslam
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>>128541487

>groundslam exile isn't really effected because you can't evade groundslam

lol? You can evade GS nigga, it's not some fucking spell or something.
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I did it anons! I just wanted to tell someone

It took 36 fuses
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>>128541484
No, hardcucks are the crossfit of poe.
>>
>>128541796
nice senpai

now what?
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>>128541910
I'll try to craft and multi mod it, not sure i have enough currency or if it'll out compete my current sword but we'll see what happens.
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>tfw dom blow crit facebreaker

This isn't working at all but I'm having fun.
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>>128542651
if you're having fun, it's working
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>>128542983
i would fuck that anime
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>reach merc dried lake with my own witch build
>tfw can't clear the lake fast and reliably without dying
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>>128541484
does "self found" refer to just self found items or both items and the whole build?
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>>128543473
>dying on dried lake

shaking

my

head
>>
>>128543473
If puncture fucks you up you can run the aqueduct

>>128543606
How does one self find a build
Self found means no trading
>>
>>128543606
it refers to (You)
>>
>>128541757
xandro has RT tho
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>>128543363
pls no sexualizing the lain
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>>128530990
>not blasting 3:16s theme - 10 hours
>>
>>128499707
IGN?
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After accumulating half a tab of jewels of all kind, is there any good build using a ton of them?

Also, I just realized that the Through Sacred Ground quest now reward jewels (first league I'm playing since the corrupted area update so a bunch of stuff are new to me)

thanks
>>
>>128545385
vaal all green jewels

thank me later
>>
https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwEAe4zG2FhjPfyMz_ZIXz8UIO8OUEfkUZd5Z5soKq4-i0_GrgthPC3E9q9sg1-DzK-ncqlo8rc-HM73MlWp8B_-CitQ6hh82Ze0ogDyRdi9Dc3463asagEEszrhNZL-VLvt890Ucc9-wGamV_6Pkc5oZdl8Djw8BU3jggc6Up_f73y8n4ZgmjsYkWFSgpvvTpOo7DheE4qzOtiFe0CgV1QnL2ZUeu9GtyFgkFUFLdNvwYt08Ro4dO2BQdunKaXawTXvCVhDMTrt0_xXl8MzEdVaGmNwYEG-p2VNvTZHfoTZ

Anything I should do different?
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>>128545468
oh I didnt try to vaal them yet, interesting
>>
>>128541796
Now get 3-4k alts and get that merciless/Tyrannical and get flat phys.
>>
>third toon i've lost to lag spikes
this is the only game I have this problem with
>>
What should I do for my next build in HC talisman be?
>>
>>128541487
>Needing to evade ground slam
>Not getting stunned by Ground slam
>Not face tanking ground slam
>>
>>128546464
honestly, play sc talisman if this happens to you.
I will play hc when they server behave themselves properly. Just like when I tried in beta and kept dying to desynch.

No point of restarting a character jsut because you got a bit of lag.
>>
>>128546548
>
>>
Ok guys, I am about to blow 200 fusings to try and 6L my Lightning Coil, wish me luck.
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>>128541796

>hatred only
>mana potion

what the fuck
>>
>>128547137

>trying to 6L without at least 1000 fusing saved up

lol
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>>128547137
>>128547308
reporting back :^)
>>
>>128547308
>he is that shit that he needs more than 50 fusings to fuse anything

Stop being bad at this game.
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>>128547395
Very nice.
>>
>there are people who are actually going to play d3
>>
>>128547948
>there are people that actually care what other people play
>>
>>128548860
>>128548860
>>
>>128547948
>>128548838
>there are people that actually are people
>>
>>128539383
reporting to Jay Wilson
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