Bring the memes back edition
Greymane on the 12th maybe
Cho'gall event ending on the 12th
>where do I find you meme-loving faggots
>What hero should I buy?
Find the ones you enjoy playing and buy those. Don't buy cheap heroes just to get into Hero League, it's not worth rushing into.
>Links nobody visits anyway
Official Site: http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/
General News: http://www.heroesnexus.com/
Tips & Tricks: http://heroesofthestorm.github.io/tips
Hero Rankings and Statistics: https://www.hotslogs.com/Default
Talent Calculator: http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator/
Free Hero Rotation: http://eu.battle.net/heroes/en/forum/topic/13604571130
Previously on /hotsg/: >>128099412
So mad he made a double chin.
Chen's Q is supposed to act kind like Illidan's, where it damages any enemy and places Chen behind them (it's supposed to go through the enemy), so you can body block with your big sweaty alcohol drenched panda manbody
but it doesn't do it consistently and 50% of the time you just damage them and end up in front, instead of behind them and you become unable to bodyblock them
>Morales: "Can Li Li even do damage?"
>Li Li: "Yeah, about 31"
Don't know why I laughed at this, but the Li Li at least did good that match and we won. Have a shitpost.
>they can't even afford to do balance patches every 2 hero releases
My point is simple. Sonya is a bruiser. She shares attributes with melee assassins. But mechanically, at her core, she is a warrior, and she is a tank. Keep in mind I'm discussing without talents in mind, but only stats, basic abilities, heroics & their upgrades. I'm talking mechanically and not about who's tanking the best for their team, which heroic is meta or anything like that.
As every single warrior in HotS, Sonya has a form of self-sustain. Warriors heal and shield themselves to last longer in battle, while Diablo's trait provides bonus health. Melee assassins also have self-sustain, but it's completely conbat-dependent. Only exception is Zeratul thanks to stealth and Blink, although even he gets life steal in the level 20 Nerazim Fury.
At their core kit, Sonya, Leoric and Artanis also sustain themselves through combat, and this brings them closer to assassins, but they remain warriors. Artanis can withstand punishment with repeated shields. Leoric has Wraith Walk to disengage, common asset of warriors. Sonya has Whirlwind.
Leap is like a Heroic form of a position tool some warriors have. Wraith Walk, Dwarf Toss, Burrow, El'Druin's Might. These can be used for engaging, escaping and positioning. Melee assasins on the other hand have movement tools that make them directly assault enemies: Ruthless Onslaught, Dive, The Hunt, Ravage, while Thrall has Feral Spirit to mostly achieve the same goal.
Sonya's lack of cc doesn't make her a non-tank any more than it does Stitches, who has the opposite of Ancient Spear in Hook (though Slam could slow a bit). While she's a hybrid, she remains a front-line fighter that seeks punishment to offer the most to her team, damage absorption and good-ol' damage.
I can't stress this enough but, don't see this the wrong way. I'm not talking meta, or how well Sonya tanks. I'm explaining how her core kit is strictly that of a tank, with elements of assassins that make her a bruiser.
Lili is pretty strong but requires some aggressive positioning to spot heal targets that need it. Malf is a good second healer if you've got a Uther or Morales on your team for the roots and innervate is too good in addition to being a free regrowth bot.
If you do well in QM before you hit 30 you can get tons of bonus points per win because your blizzard hidden MMR is high. People make smurf accounts to do their one hero challenge. People like Chu and ZPs did 5 man stacks in QM to boost their MMR then spammed the hero at 30, getting lots of bonus points.
what hero counters kaelthas. I feel like any team that gets him auto wins
Greymane confirmed tomorrow
Also, no balance changes tomorrow
3 months without balance changes lmao when will the madness end?
Hooray/vg/ I did it ha-ha I'm gold now! Senjinn would be so proud.
>our team so far: falstad, muradin, kael, tyrande
>last pick is undecided, has nothing shadowed
>me: pretty much anything will fit
i don't know why i don't just shut the fuck up
It's your hidden blizzard mmr that's how people get bonus points for starting hl early. If you have a bad hidden mmr no matter how well you do in your placement matches you will get a low rank.
Balance patch is week after Greymane. I know you guys love to lose your shit, but the rescale patch was two months ago and massively shifted the meta, and Blizzard was on vacation for the last two weeks of December.
Anybody else feel as though this game is a bit -too- team-dependant? As in it shouldn't be possible for a single person to set back your team as much as they currently do? Assuming the enemy team is as competent as your other 4.
>Gazlowe: FUCKING NOOBAS
>Gazlowe: WHY NO one didnt help me???????????
It's one of those games
strigly busines :DDDD
tfw still no us10
gazlowe should be a group decision when hes played, laning with him solo for the first 6 levels drags everyone down, but noone realizes that... give him a lane buddy til 6 though if you can afford the switch, and he gets a lot "better"
it's just that the team comp has to support him, so it's a shitty road to tow if noone wants to compromise. qm composition matchups are so hateful
if you are solo queue and enemy is 5 stack their overall mmr is a lot lower than your teammates, i had a team of chogall abathur murky medic vs a 5 stack with standard meta picks and we won.
>Chantodo's Will in the bottom center
>Tracer's guns as well
>Garona's dagger planted in front of Medic
A reminder that the next three heroes to be released will be D3 Wizard, Garona, and Tracer.
>Feral lunge baseline
>Level 1 Talent Spiritwalker's Grace renamed to Resurgence
>Far Sight cooldown reduced by 5 seconds
>Reactive Spark is now a level 4 talent
>New level 13 talent Spiritwalker's Grace - Casting spells does not break Ghost Wolf
>New level 13 talent Reactive Shielding - Lightning shield also deals its damage when hit by a basic attack
>Gladiator's War Shout now also increases Bloodlust's duration by 0.5 seconds whenever the affected attack
Rehgar: Trait - 1 second cooldown on +30% movement speed
Hammer: Trait - more damage with range
Abathur: Trait - spawn locusts
Falstad: Trait - +20% ms after no damage for 6 seconds
TLV: Trait - health regen
everyone else already has their own trait, plus their movement abilities, which you are attempting to use as a "hurr, these characters can also get faster move speed in combat" are longer cooldowns
Hammer - 30 seconds
Abathur - 30 seconds
Falstad - 45 seconds
TLV - 30 seconds
Rehgar - 1 second
So yeah, sure, they can also get their mobility on in combat, but only once every 30 seconds (or 45 for Falstad)
Also, make Misha tankier somehow. Just more health I guess since there's no armor in hots.
Because seriously, Misha only has around 100 more health than Rexxar, who is considered a squishy. I can always see it in the enemy's eyes the moment they accidentally hit misha with a nuke and go, "oh, we can just kill this bear"
>no other character who has an altered Z mentions it in their trait
>Rehgar's entire trait is that he has an altered Z
>that's ok because it's cooldown is lower, even though Lunara's trait doesn't mention her Z even though it has no cooldown at all
if Rehgar's Z was better than a normal Z, I could see it being his trait, but they made it balanced around normal mounting and then advertise it like it's a bonus
Go figure, that is Garona's dagger.
I'm suddenly hype for the first time in a long time.
I think that's suppose to be nazeebo's dagger with his poison on it
I'm thinking the same, the spiders kinda point towards that
If you wanna go full obscure, behind morales in the distance there is a 3 fingered, slim and long hand, kinda looks like abathur's, but really white, like dehaka
>our retarded nova is in the enemy backline, she kills kael
>she's fucking dead now
>enemies attack her decoys
>she walks away in stealth
lmao that was fun to watch
>our first pick shadows kael
>enemy team picks first though, they get kael
>immediate queue dodge by someone
Well the win rate is only 80%. So someone shitter has to lose with it.
this, i love playing valla but she's permanently OOM, annoying as fuck
that would make her pretty OP though
she has great AA damage, AND huge burst through her skills
most of her poking is done by skills, which is not really OK for an AA hero really. i hope they reduce her AA damage and make her more reliant on skills, because that's the fun part about valla
>its a faggot caster who yells for no reason tournament
I'll take What is Golf for 200 please.
It does look like Nazeebos if the artist decided he didn't want to draw that big fat blade. Feel free to stay hype tho, she's in the WoW Movie and probably the only character anyone might give a shit about.
So I uninstalled this game last month after a 12 game losing streak. Installed today and lost 2 in a row. Why bother?
I was in a group of three today.
Judging by my ping they're committing sudoku without my help.
How do you stay motivated? I guess I feel like I can have more fun doing other stuff now.
>How do you stay motivated?
I'm super competitive by nature, so I wasn't ready to quit even in the middle of a shit streak.
The most important thing to take away from a game is: "What did I do wrong, and how do I avoid making the same mistake in the future?". Did you not soak enough? Were you out of position? Did you get too greedy? As long as you make a conscious effort to improve, you will improve.
Failure isn’t fatal, but failure to change is.
Your groupies might be dragging you into higher ranked matches where you are getting destroyed. This is okay. If the game isn't fixin for your fancy right about now, try out something that isn't a moba. There's so much good shit out there.
There you go.
>Durotan, Grom, Gul'Dan, Medivh, Lothar, Blackhand,
>Nobody gives a shit about them.
>Guys guys we're gonna make a movie about The Lord of the Rings
>And we're going to start with The Silmarillion
sure anon, sure
these "death sounds" are
cute and fun and give me a boner
Queue up for a quickmatch quickly with a friend for ChoGall and throw the game when you're noticing you're winning by dying. Drag it out as long as possible by tipping the scales and keeping it balanced. Squeeze ever last juice of that shit. Unless it only applies when the score screen caps. Then win as fast as possible.
lol, fuck me
i queued up for an AI game
got out, and saw this
and fuck me again, as i was typing this, it expires, lol
I was 20 points away from rank 9 then Raynor gets 7 deaths by the end of the game and our anub has 6. We could never fight because anub just used his e to engage when muradin wasn't peeling
pic kind of related
What the fuck is it with Blizzard that makes them incapable of doing normal looking legs?
Both the tiger and the wolf have these inverted joins, what the fuck is that? Wolves and tigers, draenei edition?
I honestly cannot use these mounts just because their legs look so retarded.
looks fine to me, it's crouching a little
they put a fuckton of work into the core parts of that map. It's a shame no one ever sees it because you never fight there.
I got Chen and Tyrael to 9 with the xmas stim as well as Murky 5-9 for free week without trying because I really liked him.
Now I keep playing Chen and Tyrael even though the whole point was I don't play them much. Nova week might have something to do with it though.
reddit deleted the thread, dustin and crew ignored all tweets
/hots/ confirmed too ded for bans
She has lots of good choices, from pink on pink, to black on black
>instead of taking the shot, nova runs away
>Chen runs away
>Nova player has to make a guess to whether Tyreal and Thrall will now turn around and DP her into submission like the star of an H-doujin, and decides to retreat
gonna defend a nova shitter one time
>she was oom can't snipe without it
>she had meme shells so it takes about 4s for an AA she fired one at the beginning
gonna shit on a nova shitter now
>she was 1s away from killing thrall yet she ran away cuz she a shitter
face it, focused attack & stim+w needs a fucking nerf. no "right click closest support or assassin" hero should be shitting out this much damage. 400 damage I listed was fucking conservative, it's closer to 700 on FA shots.
oh didnt realise everyone had that talent and every raynor a-move frontline warriors
Guys i have an amazing idea for a map.
>Random citizens spawn in the city every 5 or 2 minutes.
>They become zombies in a short time
>The first team to kill 100 zombies win
I bet you're one of the faggots who shit talks the entire match and end up throwing the game for your team. Wahh bad matchups, wahhh my teammates sucked, wahhh everyone is a shitter but me, wahhh they cheated, wahhh broken combos, wahhh I'm so much better at this game than everyone else why do I keep on losing wahhhhh
>need to specifically organize your team around 2 potential enemy team picks
>this is balance
do you proof-read to make sure what you say makes sense?
you completely miss the point. morales and raynor is a easily selectable combo. if you seriously suggest every player on a team should preemptively pick a hero w/ imposing presence incase enemy team has raynor then youre a fucking moron. not every raynor a-moves, having one person with IP isn't doing shit
if you're talking about HL then you're a retard and should stop playing. If you're talking about QM your point is moot because QM is a coin toss anyway and Morales is garbage unless she lucks into either Raynor or Sonya
Goddamn that was a fun mission.
Goddamn that was a great game.
Goddamn I need to install that again.
I miss Island Troll Tribes and all the custom games. Life of a Peasant, Footmen Frenzy, Vampirism, etc.
But as a map for Heroes of the Storm? I don't think it would be the best. It's too similar to Shrines. What I've been hoping for is a Starcraft themed battleground that utilizes aesthetics from all 3 races. Not necessarily as intensive as what Battlefield of Eternity does because 3 themes in one map would be over the top.
>Morales is garbage.
Sonya isn't even good with Stim Drone. Ranged DPS is the best.
What about something more similar to shrines?
Each Lane represents one of the races and you have to collect mineral and vespene gas, and turning in on a specific spot for each race, and that would summon a big unit for that one to help you
There's pretty much zero chance that Li-Ming isn't the next hero.
I think that "leak" that got posted here is total bullshit though. There's no way Tracer is coming out this soon when we're not expecting to see Overwatch until May at the earliest.
I could see that working. How about some map that has this mercenary bitch give reward(s) to the team that does/gets the most resources.
It's a little different. Artanis was a bonus for pre-ordering the vanilla LOTV client.
Tracer is a bonus for purchasing that Origins Edition and thus can be redeemed at any time. So it doesn't really matter if she is released a few couple of months ahead of Overwatch's actual release.
They are going to probably want to hype it up for the people playing hots as well. You see tracer on the home screen there to promote the release of overwatch. They want people talking about the game on release, it's not like they won't have any special overwatch thing going on in hots at the same time as well "win 3 games in overwatch get a mount!"
They are probably desperate enough now to put tracer in the game before overwatch launches.
They dont even have to make her available for purchase a week later like artanis, they could keep her as a preorder bonus as long as they want
overwatch doesnt need hots hype, hots needs anything they can get, and getting an overwatch hero a few months before it launches will bring people in
Guess who the autistic last pick was!
I don't normally get upset about QM teamcomps, but this is an exception. It was an incredibly demoralizing game. I don't feel anyone played particularly BAD, we just... couldn't win.
We somehow were three levels down like, super early on, which I assume is due to lack of soak from Zera and Nova, because it wasn't like people were dying left and right.
It just... wasn't fun. Which is weird, because even BAD games are normally kind of fun.
The Artanis scale.
1-10: Decent, can still make plays if lands E.
10-13: Getting Better because of good Ult.
13-16: Can finally start laying down some real damage.
16-20: God Mode has been Activated have fun playing the best character in the game.
The problem is in a lot of games by the time Artanis becomes unstoppable the game's already decided.
We actually fucking won.
The Nova was complete trash. I mean, mentally retarded. She started going B right next to the enemy wall. Missed snipes like a boss. Constantly dying 1v5 hoping to get a kill, usually on Jaina, who would just ice block.
Raynor wasn't much better, we won in a butt cringing moment, all of us getting destroyed on a desperate attack on the enemy core... while Raynor was autoattacking their Sonya.
It was Kael's Pheonix that finished the core, we all died.
1: Season Marksmen or Block
4: Lethal Alacrity or Templar's Zeal depending on build. I've seen people going Chrono Surge now that E is easier to hit and he has more attack range. Haven't tried it yet though.
7: Follow Through or Psionic Synergy depending on build.
10. Blind if they have Raynor or Butcher. Laser for everything else. Laser should still be taken if they only have Raynor and there is a more priority target.
13. Triple Strike
16. Zealot Charge
20. Force of Will or Nexus Blades.
Here's a basic build: http://www.heroesnexus.com/talent-calculator/60-artanis#fUcUkUAAAAHP8AA
There's a few options for 4 and 7. You can either go zeal + synergy for more survivability, alacrity + reaper for waveclear/poke/damage, or you can sub any of those for chrono surge/follow through. I like nexus blades at 20, but target purified is good.
hotdogs isnt great but it has uther at 41% in masters, with a decent pick rate
The biggest thing about him is once you start fighting never stop. Attacking is the only thing keeping your shields up.
Even if you try and run try to attack things you are running by. Minions, walls anything. It all lowers the cooldowns on your shield procing.
This person posts here? I know Ive seen the name is screen shots
I'm fairly certain I remember that anon posting that story here last summer.
Could be wrong though. It hasn't been brought up in a long time though. Didn't even read.
Greymane will be shit tier. Just look at these talents you will be shocked when you find out what level tier they're in.
200 damage -> cleaves.splash for 8 damage
8 fucking damage
is this supposed to stack with some stupid "hit three time gets a crit" mechanic?
is this level 16?
what the shit????
how is a talent this fucking pathetic?
Man, fucking hell, what is with all the warriors being so damn fun? I bought ETC today (I held off for no real reason) and just all of his abilities are a blast.
I also looked up what Tyrael does finally and jesus, lots of really interesting stuff. I had no idea that arch did ANYTHING besides hit people.
Won a qm match....got "Uther stop being a scrub"
/hotsg/ where am i failing?
If you think you'll go oom then you aren't picking up enough globes through-out a match. That talent can mean the difference between staying in the fight and getting several more casts off or being a useless piece of shit that needs to back to be worth a damn, and that goes for a few other supports/heroes as well.
Please, someone, Rexxar seems like he could be so good, but I just can't figure him out.
>tfw having more fun collecting gold and doing quests on my 4 smurfs for the vulture than i am "gitting gud" on my main account
already playing 12 games a day (3 game quests for 4 accounts), not including my main, and that's taking up all of my time already
help me /hotsg/ i'm becoming a casualfag
Quite frankly I'm disgusted that Blizzard is pushing all of this progressiveness shit. I mean, they're adding in a trans hero now? Why would you ever promote that shit outside of pandering to the tumblr audience?
the joke is that Greymane TRANSforms from a human to a worgen on demand Kappa
who should i buy next? i'm nowhere near level 30 yet so i am mostly concerned about what's going to be fun while i grind out 100 quick match games, i don't really care what is top tier
>be last pick
>enemy team has: kael raynor muradin etc malfurion
>our team has: stitches tyrael nova zagara
>Nova: I want lvl 20 on Nova
i locked in abathur and have no regrets
no one dodged, but i soloed enemy camps while my team was getting slaughtered, so that was nice
>(as our core explodes) I want lvl 20 on Abathur
You mean the classes specifically from Diablo? That's kinda splitting hairs. It would kinda be like complaining about there only being one forsaken hero in the game when technically there are 3 undead heroes (from the wc franchise). I mean at that point you're just kinda moving the goalpost so, or at least perching them at a very arbitrary position
Blizzard really should implement a system where you can't bring a retarded friend into HL if they are more than 10 ranks below you tired of these assholes brining in rank 30's. Like 10 ranks is fine 25+ is a big problem
I hate pieces of shit like you that throw the game from the beginning for no reason. You people always pick abathur too, it's like a magnet for shitters.
Yesterday I had a game where someone said "gg we're gonna lose migh as well have fun" then locked in abathur, all because someone picked tyrande who is considered a top tier hero right now.
There should seriously be a function to vote on leaving the lobby without penalty when you get paired with trolls like that.
Usually for me I get paired with a team that averages to my level, one lower, one higher. Last night in a rank 19 match I got paired with an 8 and a 34. We lost hard because the 34 false as did less hero damage than the healer. I got paired with that duo immediately after and lost again because the guy was muradin and retreated at 75% leaving the rest of the team to get demolished.
It really seems to happen back to back also had a guy bring his rank 28 retard friend died 9 times as Muradin got same pair next game went abathur since I expected a loss while cursing them out they tried to spite me going meme'gal when we need tank and heals. I just meme pushed the fuck out of the enemy team since they had no wave clear and we had twin mages and they had a Nova. Was 30 min game though but constant pressure from top and bottom lane kept them split and I just copied Jaina to get free kills on pick offs.
You're right, it wasn't for no reason. The reason was that you were upset that someone picked a hero that you didn't particularly care for so you acted like a spoiled brat and picked a hero that doesn't work at all then didn't even try at any point in the game just so you could get a sick burn on the guy when you inevitably lost.
They should make you verify your age before you play online games, tired of playing with 12 year olds
>guy immediately says this
what the actual fuck
i'm glad he dodged when the enemy team got kael
No. I typically catch Colbert right when I get home but I'll jump on a game about 30 min in after he's done with his solo stuff.
Regardless, I can only typically play about 3 games in a row before I need to take a break. Today was my day off and I only played 10 games.
>win a game, complete stomp
>internet dies while we destroy their core
>switch to mobile internet ASAP
>we already won
>i got no exp / gold for the win apparently even though i missed like 20 seconds of the game at most
>shows up as a win in my match history
so... did I win? did I get any ranked points? did I lose any ranked points? I'm not in leaver queue or anything
>on mobile internet
>lose connection for 2 seconds during draft
>alt tab, try a website, it works
>i had 30 seconds left to pick
>i already had something prepicked
>bnet decides to log me out
>lost 2 ranks
this is some top tier bullshit right here
Oh shit, I just went and checked; we are up to 3!
Someone gave her a horse(not deer) anus and vag in one, and bare tits in the other
>consistently out dps assassins
>get less deaths than them
>not even dps build
Why does this happen? When I'm doing the most damage they start focusing me down but even then my dps doesn't do anything.
>Have only 4k gold
>Have to buy Greymane for $10 today
JUST FUCK MY SHITTO UPPU FAMIGLIASO
10 weeks without balance patch. C'mon Blizzard a moba in the Beta state should get updates every 2-3 weeks.
>skipping out on the best hero to date
Nah, fuck you
>haven't even turned my computer on today
>People already say Gremayne is bad
Is he really bad? Like lunara levels of bad? Gazlow levels of bad? Illidan levels of bad?
Or people don't know how to use him yet?
I bought a leo masterskin.
I don't have much faith in any new hero they release.
The last hero that was OKAY on release was monk,
almost 5 months ago.
there are a lot of non-meta heroes that counter the meta hard. Chen, for example, destroys team comps with morales because of his ability to zone out single target squishies. once morales runs their team crumbles, and with chen you can stick to morales easy.
>chen counters stun meta
Eh, it's okay. The Red on the wolf ruins it.
I'd prefer to do that one with Black and White Tyreal's Charger or the White Golden Tiger.
well, with relentless at thirteen blowing all their stuns on you is kind of a waste. Chen does get owned hard by stuns but with brew masters balance at 7 you can usually escape due to the extra move speed, and they really shouldn't be blowing all their stuns on the tank.
with regen master, amplified healing, and brewmasters balance it's not uncommon for me to be regenning 150-200 health a second late game, add on top of that any heals I can get from a competant healer and blowing all your stuns on chen is just a bad idea.
that covers 70% of the roster
amplified healing with a morales or heal over time like malf and you're set. I'm not saying chen is perfect but literally any meta tank can be destroyed by hunters mark and stun lock as well so idk what you're saying. Is muradin or diablo somehow more resistant to stuns then chen? they don't even get relentless.