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Care for your servants edition
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Xth for daddy issues.
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EVIL WITCH
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>Still not scanned
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Xth for where the fuck do I get these?
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Xth for Nobu a CUTE.
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>>128046385
>7.5
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>>128046570
naisu meme fampai
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xth for MEMETEAM
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MASHU
A
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H
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Dat Andersen
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>>128047981
>maxed but only 2 skills
why is this allowed?
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Xth for Neutral Evil
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LIZ THREAD
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>>128047981
>rad vlad
>not shining gold for glorious BBBBBBBBB deck
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>>128047991
What does she means with that?
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xth for loving and grail ascending Mephisto.
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>>128048073
>Golds with only two skills
Why is this allowed?
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>>128048126
Objectively the best alignment
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>>128048159
He said MEMETEAM, anon.
Kintoki in another league.
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>>128048009

Why is it okay to sexualize children in Japan? What's the difference between a shotacon and pedophile?
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Best Archer.
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>tfw no Arjuna
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>>128046385
Okeanos
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>>128048323
But Kintoki is actually synergetic with the other two
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>>128048159
GOLD exists in a realm outside of memes
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Rider is the best class!

My Captain being the best of the Riders of course.
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Merlin forcing random people in Japan to shapeshift doujin when?
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>>128048159
He is there, but as a sub unit laughing at the frontline memers.
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Every thread until Atolfo
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Have you forgotten about Olga already?
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>>128048328

2D beings aren't children.
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>>128048592
Who?
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>>128048382
Already posted >>128048126

>>128048430
I'm not sure you thought this through, anon.

>>128048436
Lancer > Rider >>> The Rest.
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>>128048650
I want to love all of them
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>>128048436
There's too many great girls in the Rider class, it's almost criminal.
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>>128048328
Drawings are not children
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Is there any Servant that could defeat a full power Ayaka?
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>>128048382

Oops wrong pic
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>>128048592
I haven't.
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>>128048382
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>>128048785
Lancelot, Achilles
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>>128048785
My dick.
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>>128048547
>le GOLD man XD
>muh busters
Kintoki's like a walking version of reddit
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>>128048735
How could you forget her?
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>>128048785
>full power Ayaka

What?
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>>128048126
I love evil!
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>>128048769
>that head
delete this
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>>128048436

Oops wrong pic
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>>128048436
Sooner or later we will get him.
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>>128048785
Huh? How powerful is Ayaka potentially?
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>>128045352
I care about them.
I try to fou and use all of those I like. I don't call any of them waifu though, my waifu is not in the game.

On a related note, those that are original from GO don't have great appeal to me. Only Ushi has been someone I like because she was my first servant and the little personality she has shown is appealing to me.
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>>128049190
>Reddit the servant
Good luck dealing with your manchild
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>>128048126
>not being Lawful Good
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>>128049354
IIZO IIZO
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>>128049352
It like you the fun or something.
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>>128049354
>Lawful Good = Solomon
Too edgy for me.
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>>128049354
>not being Autistic Good
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>>128049026
Probably referring to the joke in the SoL drama cd where Manaka says Ayaka must have used some hax skill to beat her and save the day.
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>>128048982
>>128049190
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>>128049354
CG, NE, LN and LE are all better than LG, although LG can be best. It just isn't in nasuverse.
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>>128049354
So how did Solomon end up this way? Did his Wisdom corrupt him or something?
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>>128049354
That mouth scares me.
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>>128049652
He spent too much time in /fgog/ the jetposting was too much
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>>128049652
No he's just a massive doucher
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>>128049652
He seems to think it's pitiful that humans have failed to overcome death or something, so at this point sort of like Gil I guess. There will probably be some twist though. He seems too campy evil to be a Nasu villain. Even Zouken gets some depth to him.
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>>128049652
Heresy.
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>>128049652
He's destroying humanity for all the good reasons. Just ask Nasu.
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>>128049771
So he decided to become the hero no one wanted?
>>128049808
>>128049886
What do i need to read to find out more about him?
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>>128049953
If you mean the actual Solomon, biblical texts
Nasuverse Solomon we have almost nothing at all.
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>>128049026
>MANAKA: Ufufu... What are you saying, Ayaka, isn’t the Holy Grail War over because of your awakening? Indeed, you abandoned the witchcraft that you were no good at, discovered a new talent and, after developing into a possible monster, mastering with astonishing speed consecutive Gandr, Unlimited Blade Works, Ionian Hetairoi or something like that and those sorts of techniques that require cheats to master. After that, you continued to consecutively summon Aristotle, Plato and Socrates and using their powers of persuasion, annexed everyone! There were zero deaths! Didn’t it end like that?
If we can't trust comedic audio dramas to give us unbiased and objective information about powerlevels, then we can't trust anything at all.
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>>128049953
>What do i need to read to find out more about him?

FGO
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>>128049953
>the hero no one wanted
>hero
Anon please.
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Alter Egos + BB when
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>>128049953
Someone on BL translated the only scene he's been in literally twenty minutes ago, so there.
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>>128049953
>What do i need to read to find out more about him?
The Bible.
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>>128045370
>おい!マスター?行くぜ!クエスト行くぜ!
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>>128050058
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>>128050015
>Nasuverse Solomon we have almost nothing at all.
Thats lame.
>>128050073
Will do
>>128050104
Already read about the biblical Solomon, not as exciting as this one.
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>>128050073
http://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/6031-Fate-Grand-Order-Story-and-Lore?p=2212337&viewfull=1#post2212337
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>>128049354
I just realized that the skill he uses when you fight him is called Inspection. So he's debuffing you by just looking at you.
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Got this error while binding. Doesn't seem to be the usual error, anybody encountered this before?

>inb4 banned
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Let's say Alter Ego Violet is in an upcoming paid gatcha. 1 percent chance of getting her, otherwise you'll just get a 5 star like the last paid gacha. Would you roll it?
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???
Demon marshal, Gilles de Rais. Empire founder, Romulus. Hero scout, Jason. And, godlike genius Nikola Tesla.

???
I expected them to be at least a little useful, but... this is disappointing.

???
Worthless. Truly worthless. Humans really are deteriorating with time.

Dr. Roman
Dammit, Shiva won't stabilize! I'm only picking up voices over here! What's going on, Mashu!?

Mashu
I-I don't know. Some kind of human-like shadow is walking toward us...

Sakata Kintoki
...Get back, Lady. That thing's bad. It's not something a nice girl like you should look at.

Tamamo no Mae
That's right, that's right. I'll run away, too. With one tail, I'll probably be tainted just laying eyes it.

Sakata Kintoki
(I think you'll be fine, though? In fact, shouldn't you be out in front?)

Mordred
Oi, what's with this ridiculous magical energy? Even dragons don't put off this much. It's just like...

Shakespeare
Could it be, the domain of angels and demons spoken of in legend? Nay, even that pales in comparison.

Shakespeare
Though I may not be a proper magus, this sorry excuse of a Caster can tell.

Shakespeare
This inexhaustible supply. This dominating power whose mere existence crushes the space around it...

Shakespeare
This creature stands side by side with God! Perhaps it's even God Himself!

Shakespeare
Andersen, my friend! I dare say it's about time we take our leave!

Andersen
Do you always have to be such a blow-hard? To begin with, there are all sorts of gods, and the only kind I fear is editors.

Andersen
...Though, I agree with running away. To think such a big fish would show up at this stage...

Dr. Roman
Big fish!? What's going on!? Gudao, give me a report!

???
Oh? A fellow disembodied voice, is it?

???
Since Chaldea was disconnected from the axis of time, it has become a place that can't be found.

???
Even my eyes, which foresee all futures, have difficulty perceiving it.

???
Therefore, it survives. Uncouthly. Miserably. Futilely.
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>>128050304
That design is so fucking bad. A new low for Takeuchi.
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>>128050403
DING DONG
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>>128050258
Eh this really does make him look like a stereotypical villain.
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>>128050427
I'd roll it because I like the idea of a guaranteed 5*. I'd actually be really annoyed if I rolled Violet
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>>128050457

???
A pitiful boat adrift in a vast sea of nothingness, rejecting the history of destruction that has already been decided.

???
That is your precious Chaldea, one they call Gudao.

???
Is that the name of the one last fool who opposes my grand work? The last stain on the burnt out husk of human history?

Mashu
...Doctor. There's something appearing in front of us now...
1: Who are you!?

2: Is it the "king" Lev mentioned!?

???
Hmm? Shouldn't that already be obvious? Are you a monkey that needs to be spoonfed everything?

???
But, very well. I've taken a liking to that unsightliness. If you wish to know, I shall tell you.

???
I am the one you seek. The one who subjugated the 72 demon gods, who would destroy mankind from his throne.

???
My name is Solomon. Know me, one of the seven standing at the summit of the Heroic Spirits.

Dr. Roman
So... Solomon!? Did he just say Solomon, Mashu!?

Mashu
Yes. There's no mistaking it.

Mashu
He definitely called himself by the same name as the ancient king of Israel, who ruled in the 10th century BC.

Dr. Roman
No way... it's really him...

Mordred
Ha, so we've got ourselves another celebrity, do we? So what's your deal? You're a Servant right?

Mordred
Don't tell me, you were summoned as a Heroic Spirit and got a second lease on life to wipe out the human race?

Solomon
Quite the contrary, Londinium Knight. While I'm certainly a Heroic Spirit, no human summoned me.

Mordred
What?

Solomon
Don't place me on the same level as you incompetent fools. After I died, I resurrected myself and sublimed into a Heroic Spirit by my own power.

Dr. Roman
H-He resurrected himself...!?

Solomon
I am a living Heroic Spirit. Consequently, I have no Master lording over me.

Solomon
I began this undertaking by my own will.

Solomon
All for the sake of eradicating you humans -- garbage perpetuating a foolish history, the single greatest waste of space in the universe.
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>>128050258
>Hmm? Shouldn't that already be obvious? Are you a monkey that needs to be spoonfed everything?

Solomon goes on /a/?
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>>128050457
>Romulus
Isn't the big bad of Rome Attila?
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>>128050482
Villains need more tats man you just dont understand his art.
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>>128050543
Given that the Grands are supposed to save the world, I'll be he's lying/skewing the truth about making himself into a Grand and that he's actually somehow protecting the world by doing all this. Attila's the one we really have to watch out for.
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>>128050457
>Andersen
>Do you always have to be such a blow-hard? To begin with, there are all sorts of gods, and the only kind I fear is editors.
Heroic Spirit Editor when?
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>>128050457
>Sakata Kintoki
>...Get back, Lady. That thing's bad. It's not something a nice girl like you should look at.
ANIKI
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>>128050773
>Sakata Kintoki
>(I think you'll be fine, though? In fact, shouldn't you be out in front?)
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>>128050258
>Andersen, my friend! I dare say it's about time we take our leave!
>Do you always have to be such a blow-hard? To begin with, there are all sorts of gods, and the only kind I fear is editors.

Fucking Andersen
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>>128050647

1: You can do that...!?

2: Like hell you can destroy the world...!

Solomon
Of course I can. I have the the means, the will, and most importantly, the results.

Solomon
Your era is already gone. Destroyed by my 72 pillars that surpass time.

Dr. Roman
Surpassing time... then, those demon gods are really the demon gods from the Lemegeton...?

Dr. Roman
No, that can't be, it's too different from the folklore! There's no way King Solomon's familiars could be such disgusting monsters!

Solomon
How pitiful. You sit at the forefront of history, yet your interpretations are so antiquated.

Solomon
The 72 demon gods were incarnated and reborn, anchoring them to every era.

Solomon
They are lynchpins to stop the planet's rotation. The band of light whirling through the heavens is my Noble Phantasm.

Mashu
Band of light whirling through the heavens... then, the ring of light we've seen in every era is...

Solomon
Precisely. It is my third Noble Phantasm, Ars Almadel Salomonis.

Solomon
Each ray within it carries heat on par with a holy sword. That Servant you lot were playing with earlier...

Solomon
In terms of scale, it is hundreds of millions of times greater than King Arthur's holy sword. Quite simply, it is an anti-Humanity Noble Phantasm.

Mordred
H-Hundreds of millions of times greater than father's sword... so, you'll burn all of history to ash!?
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>>128050678
I think he was talking about those he personally summoned/manipulated into being. Attila was Lev's doing.
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>>128050482
A bad design for a disgusting jew. Fitting if you think about it.
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>>128050647
>one they call Gudao
Is that silly fucking name really the MCs name? It sounds like a clowns
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>>128050918
But wasn't Lev working for Solomon?
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>>128050905
Solomon
Well. There's no point telling someone who won't live to see it.

Solomon
I've answered your questions. Now it's my turn, survivors of Chaldea.

Mordred
You son of a bitch! Get ready Mashu, Gudao!

Mordred
This guy's the wire-puller, right!? In that case, all we have to do is beat the shit out of him here...!

Mashu
B-But... that Servant... there's no way...

Dr. Roman
Mashu, get ahold of yourself! Take a good look at your enemy!

Dr. Roman
No matter who he is, he's still a Servant, right!? Which means you can beat him!

Dr. Roman
Don't forget, the Heroic Spirit inside you was chosen by the Holy Grail! It won't lose to Solomon when it comes to rank!

Solomon
Ha! Heroic Spirit rank? You truly believe you can measure up to me?

Solomon
Ignorance is a sin. I thought your commander might be wise in his own way, but it seems he's just a trifling magus.

Solomon
Still, you've piqued my interest, girl.

Solomon
Let's have a nice chat, shall we?

Solomon
This is a special occasion. In deference to your courage, I'll only use four.

[Battle: vs Emissary's Four Pillars]
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>>128050678
No its roma gathering previous emperors of rome to "test" nero without knowing hes being manipulated by solomons lackey lev.
Lev only summons attila as a last ditch effort only to get rekt by attila who basically tells him to "fuck off" by cutting him in half
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>What, you're saying you only came here to piss on us!?

>That's right! That's exactly right! Actually, you lot are even lower than piss!

Lawful good everyone.
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>>128051091
Attila truly is the best
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>>128050482
The only bad thing about it is the hair braid with inexplicable red things.
Everything else either has precedent or works fine. But that's just a distracting bit of hair.
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>>128050952
I think the translator is just using it as shorthand for "insert your name here".
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>>128051063

Solomon
Do you see now? This is what happens when mere Heroic Spirits stand on the same stage as me.

*Kintoki, Shakespeare, and Tamamo vanish*

Mashu
...Doctor, start the rayshift. At this rate we'll all be killed...!

Dr. Roman
It's impossible...! There's no way to anchor the rayshift through his force field!

Dr. Roman
As long as Solomon is there, I can't bring you back!

Mashu
Then... at the very least, Senpai...

Mordred
You sure like to hear yourself talk!

Mordred
But, you're definitely not bluffing, either... more than rank as a Heroic Spirit, your output itself is on a whole other level.

Mordred
What the hell are you!?

Solomon
It's just as you've said. It's not a difference in our rank as heroic spirits, but the rank of our classes.

Solomon
Now, burn together with that trash.

Solomon
Kingslayer Mordred. I'll be sure to take special care with you.

*Solomon attacks, but Mordred is still standing*

Andersen
...Are you kidding me? This is what happens just from blocking once? I guess as a Caster I really can't oppose you.

Mordred
Whelp...!? What are you...

Andersen
It's just a whim, don't worry about it. I owed you for all the work you did for me anyway.

Solomon
...You were still alive, writer?

Solomon
I thought I wiped you out along with all the other small-fry. You did well surviving with such meager power.

Andersen
Hmph. I hate manual labor. I was simply observing until now.

Andersen
But. I figured it out, Solomon. Your true colors. The unbelievable truth.

Solomon
Oh? Speak, improviser. If I like what I hear, I'll grant you an easy death.

Andersen
Then listen well, Philistine. This was written in the Clock Tower records.

Andersen
Heroic Spirit summoning is the summoning of the counter force -- that which ensures the continuation of the human species.
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>>128051185
>torture and murder a loli
>Chaotic Good
>wish for the happiness of the worlds children
>Neutral Evil
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>...Are you the biggest idiot in human history?

well..
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>>128051220
Expecting her to appear out of nowhere and cut the jew in a half
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Haven't played in months, what are the best overall CE now a days is it still Kaleidoscope or one of the 25% boosts?
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>>128051220
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>>128051295
Andersen
They materialize in seven vessels, to defeat a single adversary.

Andersen
And what is that adversary, you ask? Could it be more obvious? It's a great disaster that threatens our world!

Andersen
An incarnation of the end that will not destroy the planet, but humanity, and the civilization that we've built!

Andersen
A devourer of civilizations, born from civilization -- it is none other than an apotheosis of our own creation.

Andersen
And. The ones summoned to defeat it are those who stand at the pinnacle of all Heroic Spirits.

Solomon
Indeed. The seven Heroic Spirits are heavenly emissaries sent to destroy a certain evil.

Solomon
The seven greatest knights of that era, who protect humanity's foundations. The first seven who stand at the pinnacle of Heroic Spirits.

Solomon
Originally, the evocation ritual "Heroic Spirit Summoning" was meant to save the human world.

Solomon
It was your summoning system, the Holy Grail War, that degraded it into something that could be used at the convenience of humans.

Mordred
Hey, who're you calling degraded...!?

Andersen
Calm down, Mordred. It's not a matter of rank. It's about the vessel, the authority.

Andersen
He's simply a Heroic Spirit that manifested in a superior container.

Andersen
If we're weapons to oppose individuals, then he's a weapon to oppose the world.

Andersen
One who stands above all other Heroic Spirits of the same type. In other words, a Servant with a Grand vessel.

Solomon
Yes. You've finally arrived at the truth!

Solomon
I am king among kings, Caster among Casters!

Solomon
Thus, you may hail me as Grand Caster, the King of Magic Solomon!

Dr. Roman
Grand Class...!? Are you saying you're a Heroic Spirit chosen by the Root!?

Solomon
Well then, here's your prize, improviser, as promised. I'll dice you up into a hundred pieces and carefully burn them all.

Andersen
Guh... guoooooh...!

*Andersen disappears*
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>>128051347
Depends on what you're doing and who you're using. Best for farming, certainly.
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>>128051347
There is no best overall CE, but Kaleido and the 25% boosts are still top tier.
Although 3 maxed Twice CEs might be the best CE set up.
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>>128050482
A lot of Takeuchi's stuff recently is too similar, Solomon really stands out so I like it. He's an over the top guy with an over the top design, it's cool.
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>>128051305
Alignments work in mysterious ways.
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Reminder this is literally what happened when Numeral buff was gone.
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>>128051347
It depends of the team. 2030 CE is one of the best now too.
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>>128051617
Fuck off shitposter.
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>>128051695
>even bothering to reply
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>>128050304
Is this silver ring on his right middle finger supposed to be special?
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>>128051617
Be quiet kid. We're reading about someone who can rape your failed maymay 11 times out of 10.
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>>128051457
>>128051523
>>128051635
Alright, thanks. Just trying to see if they were still worth it or if I should reroll from scratch.
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>>128051695
>>128051782
>Can't even handle one single strike without his Super Saiyan active
No wonder he got a sword that's not even fairy made.
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I still think Solomon is just testing us or something to face the real big bad. He's just too cartoonishly evil.
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>>128050176
I don't know why you expect anything else from him, he was introduced like two weeks ago.
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>>128051456

How can one Caster be so based?
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>>128051956
Reroll anyway
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>>128051456
Rofl I bet he can one shot scat
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Is Solomon the most powerful heroric spirit? Can a regular heroric spirit best him?
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>>128051456
>They materialize in seven vessels, to defeat a single adversary.
Jesus christ Primate Murder is ludicrous.
And some people think any heroes are comparable to Types? Earth can't even make a real Type.
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>>128051887
>We're reading about someone who can rape your failed maymay 11 times out of 10.
Can't wait to see him have trouble with Saber Lancelot in Jerusalem.
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>>128052304
>Is Solomon the most powerful heroric spirit?

He is until we see more Grand Servants.
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>>128052304
Haven't we had this discussion quite a few times already?

The guy is powerful, yes, but any other HS in a grand container (instead of a regular one) would wreck shit.
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>>128052304
He is one of the top 7, not necessarily the best.
And no, since he can explicitly just unsummon them.
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>>128052024

Nigga this is a free to play phone game not war & peace. Don't get your hopes up.
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>>128052304
Well, he's just made from better materials. Its like copper sword and armor vs steel ones
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>>128052304
He says he's part of the top 7. In this case, it's because he's in a container so far above everyone else. As a regular Servant, he's probably just top tier.
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>>128051456
Mordred
...Bastard.

Solomon
In the end, Servants are tools that can't do anything unless summoned by a living being.

Solomon
You will never attain true freedom like me. Do you see now the insurmountable wall between us?

Mordred
...Ha. You're pretty full of yourself for someone that's already had four Holy Grails snatched right out from under his nose.

Mordred
I bet you only showed yourself now because losing half of them to Gudao has you in a panic.

Mordred
How disgusting. Nobody likes a sore loser.

Solomon
...Are you the biggest idiot in human history?

Solomon
You think I'm here over four measly Grails? Don't make me laugh. I've finally destroyed everything.

Solomon
One Grail, six Grails, it makes no difference. It will be a long time before this "Gudao" becomes a threat.

Solomon
Anyway, it's time for me to go. This took longer than I expected.

Mashu
Eh?

Mordred
What!? You're gonna leave, just like that? Why did you even come here in the first place, then!?

Solomon
A mere fit of impulsiveness.

Solomon
It's normal to get up and relieve yourself in between finishing one book and starting another, right? That's all this was.

Mordred
What, you're saying you only came here to piss on us!?

Solomon
...Ha.

Solomon
Hahaha, bwahahahahahahahaha...!

Solomon
That's right! That's exactly right! Actually, you lot are even lower than piss!

Solomon
You mean nothing to me. Whether you live or die here is utterly inconsequential.

Solomon
Understand? I'm not overlooking you. You weren't worthy of my attention in the first place!

Solomon
Although... hmm. Should you resolve all seven singularities...

Solomon
Only then will I recognize you as "a matter I must handle myself."

Dr. Roman
We're saved... I think? I can't say I like being spared, but I'm not going to argue...

Dr. Roman
Huh? Gudao!?
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>>128052304
He's the most powerful right now because no one else has a Grand vessel to stand up to him. As a Heroic Spirit he is powerful of course, but not the strongest.
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>>128052497
I can, because I ran out of quartz.
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Solomon vs Origin Boosted Gil

Who wins?
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>>128052497
>rolling the gacha when there is no event or free quartz
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>>128052552
This
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>>128052473

>And no, since he can explicitly just unsummon them.

What about counter guardians? Can EMIYA beat him?
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>>128052471
But Grand containers are clearly a "fits only this one guy" flavor so not everyone can be one.
Though there are only seven, I wonder if there could be a Grand Avenger or Grand Savior.
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>>128052304
Any Servant on the high tier with a Grand container will be probably at that level.
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>>128052535
1: Why are you doing this!?

2: Do you enjoy destroying the world!?

Mashu
Senpai...!?

Solomon
...Oh? You surprise me, human.

Solomon
You want to know if I enjoy this? If I take pleasure in destroying the human race?

Solomon
Ah... Of course, of course, of course, of course! Nothing could be more fun!

Solomon
If it wasn't, I wouldn't do it!

Solomon
Watching you die is the best.

Solomon
Your end is exhilarating! Your death throes are sublime!

Solomon
And, it is your highest salvation.

Solomon
Because none but I can make use of the human race down to the last man, woman, and child...!

Mordred
Get back, Gudao! Talking to this guy is pointless, he's rotten right down to his core!

Mashu
...King of Magic Solomon. You're the same as Lev Reinol.

Mashu
You have no gratitude for life. You toy with the lives of humans, of the planet...!

Solomon
...

Solomon
Girl. Humans have no right to speak of life. An opinion that takes death for granted is worthless.

Solomon
Gratitude for life? I doubt you even know what that means.

Solomon
What have you humans accomplished these past 2000 years? All you've done is sit idly by and die.

Solomon
You are minds that could not conquer death, yet continue to fear it.

Solomon
Even though if death is inevitable, you should have thrown away your fear of it.

Solomon
Even though if you think death is so fearsome and tragic, you should have thrown away your intelligence!

Solomon
Pathetic. It's so pathetic. And the same goes for you, Master from Chaldea.

Solomon
Why do you fight? A life that will eventually end is already over.

Solomon
Why do you continue on, even knowing that there is no salvation?

Mashu
...

Solomon
Heed me, young human. Humanity's final Master, Gudao.

Solomon
This will be my only warning.

Solomon
Abandon everything right here and now, if you know what's good for you.

Solomon
...Burn until not even ash is left. That is humanity's future.

*Solomon leaves*
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>>128052394
Why do Lancelot fags like Lancelot? I'm not trying to start shit, I'm genuinely wondering what makes him likeable to people? Or is it just ''muh unrivaled'' for the sake of shitposting?
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>>128052497
Another lost soul.
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>>128052542
>>128052529
>>128052471
It is said that he is in the Grand class because he is the strongest Caster.
The Grands aren't just 7 strong guys with buffs, it's the seven best in their class further buffed to fight super enemies.
Solomon is the most powerful Caster and the other 6 will be the best in their classes too.
The guys entire introduction is 'he's totally out of your league', and this is when you meet him with like 7 Servants.
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>Solomon is smug as fuck
>the only reason he's so powerful is because the Root summoned him
Why the fuck is he so smug if he's not even powerful by his own merit? If he just happens to have a fancy container this guy has no grounds to act like he's better than anyone.
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>>128052737
Mordred
...Well, this is it. It wasn't pretty, but at least we got the Grail.

1: ...Sorry.

Mordred
Don't apologize, idiot. I'm the one that's pathetic.

2: ...That's right.

Mordred
I haven't be so overwhelmed since father's spear... no, no, nevermind.

Mordred
Still, we saved London. Not bad, if I do say so myself.

Mordred
The only thing I regret is that this is the end. Frankly, I'd like to go with you, if I could...

Mordred
But this is my limit. Now that the singularity is resolved, I've lost my place in this world.

Mordred
After all, I was called here by the mist from the Holy Grail. With no Master, this time I have no choice but to disappear.

Mordred
...It's vexing, but that guy was right. We can't fight unless we're summoned.

Mordred
That is the limit of Heroic Spirits, of Servants.

Mordred
The ones who build an era are the living humans of that era... the leading edge of the future.

1: ...Mordred

2: Living humans...

Mordred
Yeah. That's why... you'll make it eventually, Gudao.

Mordred
To the place we can never reach. Overcome the seven Holy Grails, and march into the future.

Mordred
You'll corner that Grand Caster asshole. It's something only you can do.

Mashu
...Mordred.

Mordred
Don't make that face, Mashu. I can't stand shield bearers, but you're different.

Mordred
We'll meet again someday. And when that time comes, I'll lend you my help once more.

Mordred
Seeya, Gudao. And remember, even someone like me was able to save London.

Mordred
So, cheer up a little, and go save the world!

*Mordred disappears*
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>Care for your servants edition
>haven't played with waifu in days
I feel bad now. I wish this game wasn't so bad.
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>>128052745
Maybe they can relate to his personality.
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>>128052679
They should just be really good containers from the sound of it. The Servant containers are degraded versions, but they can house any spirit just fine.
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>>128052679
>But Grand containers are clearly a "fits only this one guy" flavor so not everyone can be one.
Not really.
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>>128052873
He didn't get picked at random to be a Grand, he is a Grand because he is the best to begin with.
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>>128051887
https://youtu.be/nwrzYrpCHz0?t=4m17s
Literally holy Arondight vs Solomon.
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>>128052873
The root didn't summon him, he summoned himself.
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>>128052873
According to him, he brought himself to that level.
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>>128052892
Mashu
...Servant response, negative. Senpai. This era's Order is complete.

da Vinci
Ah, testing, testing. Good, the video feed is back.

da Vinci
Are you two all right? You're all right, right? I'm not seeing any abnormalities in the observational values.

da Vinci
The mist is returning to normal, too, so there's no reason to stick around there.

da Vinci
I'll initiate the rayshift now. You don't have any unfinished business, do you? No?

da Vinci
Then, rayshift start! Good job, everybody!

da Vinci
Welcome home, you two. Another safe return... is what I'd like to say, but hey, at least you're back.

1: By the way, why are you handling the rayshift, da Vinci?

2: Umm, where's Dr. Roman...?

da Vinci
You wanna know about Romani? Well...

Dr. Roman
No way... no way...

da Vinci
As you can see, he's been useless for a while now. Maybe you can snap him out of it?

1: Get a grip, Doctor!

2: You really are chicken, Doctor!

Dr. Roman
Uwah!? W-W-When did you two get back!? ...Ah. I see. Leonardo handled everything.

Dr. Roman
...Sorry. Even though you two were the ones in trouble, I... it's just, the shock...

da Vinci
Yes, yes, you can stop being depressed now. There's no need to be a baby about it.

Dr. Roman
R-Right. Sorry, Mashu, Gudao.

Dr. Roman
I should have initiated a compulsory rayshift earlier, but I was too late...

1: Don't worry about it.

2: There was nothing you could do.

Dr. Roman
But, if Solomon had killed you...

Dr. Roman
...Ugh, I'm... I'm so useless...

Mashu
...Doctor. Raise your head.

Mashu
You're the only reason we can continue fighting.

Mashu
It's true, you're a coward, and you're always being negative.

Mashu
In a word, you're chicken. As a man, you're too effeminate.

Mashu
Your hobbies are too introverted, and the way you rely so much on that virtual idol is disgusting.

da Vinci
Ah...

Four
Fou...
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>>128052850
>>128053036
No, it's directly said he is the best because he is a Grand Caster, not the other way around. Let's see, he is probably top tier in the Heroic Spirit league, but being summoned as Grand Caster makes him outright ludicrous.

He wasn't even picked to be a Grand, he summoned himself in that container.
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>>128052915
So they relate to him because they also fuck up constantly? I mean objectively there's not much to like, sure he was a skilled knight, he was also babied by the lady of the lake. But in spite of all that he literally kept fucking up during most of his life
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>>128053119
>Your hobbies are too introverted, and the way you rely so much on that virtual idol is disgusting.
Who?
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>>128051456
So was Solomon one of the people that was fighting against Primate Murder?
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Probably should.
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>>128052552
>>128052658
>>128052663
>>128052753
I just keep clicking buy more quartz
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>>128052873
He summoned himself to be a Grand Servant. Also he's probably the most powerful human mage in the Nasuverse wih maybe Merlin being the exception.
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>tfw there's a chance that grand Berserker is lancelot
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>>128049652
>>128049475
How much does it take before you realize there might be more in play than what's going on, rather than exactly what you were told as though there's no twist coming. Despite every Nasu game to date having a twist near the end.

Its one reason that people assume that Solomon is just acting foolishly evil in order to test humanity, because he's not the ultimate evil here, but he needs humanity to be strong enough to face what's coming. So he plays the role of the villain, in order to whip them into shape, and give them something to hate so that they get good enough to take it on.

Points in favor of this theory so far
>He left the heroes alive, with a lame excuse of "Well you're not worth killing", when he could have easily done it.
>Is supposed to be the wisest man in existence
>Is confirmed to be summonable eventually
>Directly confirmed that he can see all of the future and past, as a passive thing.
>He tells you to gather the seven grails, and then he'll appear before you again.
>He's a grand servant, which are meant to save humanity from some great evil, which has been alluded to in the plot once or twice before already.
>He's a hero, and hero's are innately good at the end of the day, in some way at least. Even if their goodness is warped, they are still called heroes for a reason. Even Saber realizes this at the end of Fate route.
>Lawful good

Points against this theory
>We know that he's only going to appear after the seventh area in the game, meaning the secret eighth area. However in order for there to be some bigger true boss beyond him, DW would have to put in a nineth or even tenth area, in order for this shit to not just come out of nowhere. I don't know if they feel like putting that much effort into this story.

I'd go as far as to say that there's a specific reason that he's picking the times in history that he's sending you to for a reason, because its all connected somehow.
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>>128052304
Achilles and Jets
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>>128053119
1: ...Umm...

2: Mashu, have mercy...

Mashu
But... the fact that you always try your best anyway is what keeps this place going.

Mashu
When Chaldea was bombed, you were the one who restored power, rescued the survivors, and took command.

Mashu
If you have one fatal flaw, it's this: you underestimate yourself too much.

Mashu
The only reason Chaldea still exists is because you were here. Everybody here now owes you their lives.

Mashu
That's what I think.

1: That's right.

2: You shared your thoughts.

Mashu
...Yes, Senpai.

Dr. Roman
...

Dr. Roman
Thank you, Mashu, Gudao. You're right. I don't have time to be depressed.

Dr. Roman
At any rate, now we know who's behind everything. There must be some logic to that bizarre strength.

Dr. Roman
For now, we'll keep planning. We'll fix the remaining singularities, and keep the world and the future from being incinerated.

Dr. Roman
...That man. The King of Magic Solomon. What will he do?

Mashu
Grand Caster. Our true enemy...

1: Next time we'll win!

2: We won't lose a second time.

Four
Fou!

Dr. Roman
Ha! That's the spirit, Gudao.

Dr. Roman
Okay, it's a bit late, but good job again everybody!

Dr. Roman
We'll take care of the cleanup, so you two go get some rest.

Dr. Roman
When you wake up, it'll be time to tackle the fifth singularity. We're counting on you!

Mashu
...Here we are. Take care of yourself, Senpai.

1: Right back at you.

Mashu
There's no need for that. I'm a Demi-Servant, so there's no problem with my stamina.

Mashu
Though... I suppose there's still magical energy depletion, so... maybe it's all right to say I'm tired.
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>>128053193
No, it's the opposite.
>I am king among kings, Caster among Casters!
>Thus, you may hail me as Grand Caster, the King of Magic Solomon!
I am [best] thus I am [Grand] is how that reads.
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>>128053036
It's directly said there isn't any difference with the other Heroic Spirits outside the container.
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>>128053303
Forgot Gil and Heracles too. And Li Shuwen.
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>>128053341
You shouldn't believe what characters say without asking questions.
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>>128053319
2: It's all right, I'm not that tired.

Mashu
Umm, then... I'm sorry. It was simply an idiomatic phrase.

Mashu
And, I think you're more tired than you realize. Try to rest.

Mashu
...By the way, there's something I wanted to ask you.

Mashu
What do you think about what Solomon said? Particularly the part about effectively using the human race?

1: It's ridiculous.

2: ...What do you think, Mashu?

Mashu
I... I couldn't disagree.

Mashu
I don't understand myself. But, I can't simply disregard his words.

Mashu
The pointlessness of life, the hopeless future... he spoke so hopefully about such gloomy topics.

Mashu
...My apologies. This is the start of our battle, but I'm talking about something strange.

Mashu
Goodnight, Master. Show me an energetic face again tomorrow.


And that's the end there.
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>final Order is a series of boss fights against the Types during Notes
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>>128053272
No there isn't
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>>128053341
But he is the best because he is the Grand Caster.

>Andersen
>Calm down, Mordred. It's not a matter of rank. It's about the vessel, the authority.
>Andersen
>He's simply a Heroic Spirit that manifested in a superior container.
>Andersen
>If we're weapons to oppose individuals, then he's a weapon to oppose the world.
>Andersen
>One who stands above all other Heroic Spirits of the same type. In other words, a Servant with a Grand vessel.
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>>128052658
If I'm new should I be waiting for such a thing? I've been saving me quartz anyway.
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>>128053193
He was picked to be a Grand originally.
The Grands were the seven strongest Heroic Spirits pulled together to fight a world ending threat.
The Solomon now summons himself after that, but he was still put in that class originally.

Andersen
They materialize in seven vessels, to defeat a single adversary.

Andersen
And what is that adversary, you ask? Could it be more obvious? It's a great disaster that threatens our world!

Andersen
An incarnation of the end that will not destroy the planet, but humanity, and the civilization that we've built!

Andersen
A devourer of civilizations, born from civilization -- it is none other than an apotheosis of our own creation.

Andersen
And. The ones summoned to defeat it are those who stand at the pinnacle of all Heroic Spirits.

Solomon
Indeed. The seven Heroic Spirits are heavenly emissaries sent to destroy a certain evil.

Solomon
The seven greatest knights of that era, who protect humanity's foundations. The first seven who stand at the pinnacle of Heroic Spirits.

He is overpowered because of his class, but he was put in that class in the first place because he was at the top to begin with.
He is shitting all over you and impossible to beat because of his class, which Andersen points out, but he is still the best outside of it even if he would be fightable then.
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>>128053225
After the world ended, he repurposed a chunk of Chaldea's computing power to simulate his favorite net idol, MagiMari, so that he could keep visiting her blog.
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>>128053209
>King Arthur was a knight living in ideals, as I once had. But we age. People age. We cannot be everlasting like the King. There is far too little time for us to live by ideals. I had no longer been the knight that the King had such hopes for. What I committed with the Queen unexpectedly proved that. I even felt relief that the King would know of my disgrace, know of the limits of a man, and punish me for my disloyalty.
>Muh no character
Come on faggot, he literally has more character than Gil ever did with that one paragraph.
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>>128053548
>One who stands above all other Heroic Spirits of the same type
This again implies that it's "only for this person". I don't see how that can be interpreted as "anyone summoned like that is this quality".
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>>128053553
If you want to.
I usually wait Rate ups for certain servants to roll the gacha.
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>>128053694
The one summoned as a Grand Caster stands above all other Casters.
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>>128053671
That literally proves what I said though, as skilled as he was he was also a shitty knight that kept fucking up
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>>128053484
Is Mashu our only servant? Jesus. The story acknoledging that we use servants that leave her in the dust no matter how much she tries should be acknowledged.
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Why is she so perfect bros?
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>>128053804
And Solomon was summoned as Grand Caster in the first place because he stood at the pinnacle of all Casters.
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>>128053671
>He didn't read the vn
>He didn't play CCC
>He is not reading srange fake
smugredman.jpg
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>>128053778
Fuck off frog fag.
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>>128053671
>muh punish me
You do know that is exactly the reason why he's such a manchild?

>>128053694
Don't nitpick like that. It's bad.
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>>128053804
That's a stretch of an interpretation. It's far easier to read as "the one who is the best caster is Grand Caster".
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>>128053880
>Liz
>perfect
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>>128053556
>>128053884
Nobody was picked to be a Grand, Grands are Heroic Spirits summoned in that containers to protect the human world. Nowhere it's said that they were summoned before once or never, or they being special snowflakes that are summoned in that special class, just that it's a system that exists that brings the pinnacle of Heroic Spirits to save humanity. And said pinnacle is directly said to be that because of the container and not a matter of rank.

>>128053694
That implies that being summoned as a Grand Caster puts you on that level, as Andersen explains of it being a matter of the vessel.
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>>128053880
Cunt and a serial killer, no chest either.
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>>128053880
I want to cum in her dragon pussy
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>Solomon is a grand caster
>but at the end of the day he's in the caster class so all other grand classes will shaft him hard
can't wait for all of his shit talking to blow up in his face
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>>128053880
Because she's pure
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>>128053839
It is acknowledged back in Fuyuki that you do summon servants. However, due to obvious limitations in the story a mobage can do. They decided to go do a neutral route in that Mashu is the one to talk during the story.
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>>128053671
Most berserkers don't have a personality to be honest, even Herakles we have seen only shades off. There are exceptions sure but most servants that only appeared in GO already have more personality than most berserkers
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America when?
New event when?
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>Grand Servants are meant to protect the world
>the only Grand Servant we've seen so far wants to destroy it
I don't get it
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>>128050403
Wrong password or code

Your fucked
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>>128053839
>the most boring piece of shit in the entire franchise is our only servant
Plot in GO seems hilariously bad anyways
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Just finished leveling my Waver to 90 time to level his skills to 6 because I am too poor.
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>>128050125
We are out of milk.
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>>128053484
Thanks anon.
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>>128054043
He does say it picks the 7 at the pinnacle of Heroic Spirits. And the first thing he says is that he's one of those 7. That doesn't mean other heroes should be barred from becoming Grand, but we'll probably have to cheat with Holy Grails.
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>>128053884
Nowhere is said he was even summoned as Grand Caster before or the system was even used. Now he just summoned himself.

>>128053985
There is a reason why Andersen explains that it's not a matter of rank but just a container, if there wasn't like that he would be just "welp he is the best and that's all folks".
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>>128054056
>cunt
Prove it

>serial killer
underage moralfags get out of my 4chan


>no chest
That's your taste faggot.
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>>128054043
>Nobody was picked to be a Grand
It literally says it, in that conversation, that the Grands are the original 7 Heroic Spirits summoned to stop a world ending threat, which is implied to be Primate Murder
It says humans copied that system to make normal HGWs, which means the previous system was already in place and was around to be copied.
The Grands were already chosen as the best Heroic Spirits in their class.
That's why there are 7 original Grands.
GO isn't the first time the Grand class has been used since we knew about the 7 who stopped Primate Murder for years.
Solomon, if summoned as a normal Caster, would still be the 'strongest' Caster.
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>>128054183
Because he's not on duty right now. He doesn't have to protect shit if he doesn't want to.
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Where can I find an overall summary of the story for FGO? I've been reading the translated portions on the web story simulator but there isn't much.
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>>128054230
>90
for what purpose
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>>128054281
No, he says that Grand Servants are the pinnacle of Heroic Spirits, and explains that they are because of the container and not a matter of rank. In other words, Solomon is not a special kind of Heroic Spirit but a really good Caster summoned in a really good container.
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>>128054297
>Prove it
She literally treats other human beings as if they're pigs who should be slaughtered.
>moralfags
Are you saying killing people by the hundreds just so you can look pretty is okay?
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>>128054443
I wanted to suck his cock while he is fully erected.
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>>128054173
Their personalities are in their backstories. Makes sense since they can't talk, right?
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>>128054419
You'll just have to lurk on BL's story thread for F/GO. The guys there will eventually summarize the events as it happens though.
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>>128054056
She just knows how good she is, she's gotten better. Tits are overrated compared to a tail.

>>128054152
Purity is always good. Too bad its so rare and unappreciated these days.
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>>128054297
Flat chest is inferior to full chest.
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>>128054484
>underage moralfag
Fuck off retard
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>>128054297
>>serial killer
>underage moralfags get out of my 4chan
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>>128054446
???
My name is Solomon. Know me, one of the seven standing at the summit of the Heroic Spirits.

Solomon
The seven greatest knights of that era, who protect humanity's foundations. The first seven who stand at the pinnacle of Heroic Spirits.
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>>128054286
Andersen explains that the way he is right now, able to just destroy all of human history, is because of the container.
But he also says that Solomon stands at the pinnacle of all Heroic Spirits with the other 6.
>>128054446
You have it backwards. They explicitly say that the ones summoned as Grands were summoned because they were the best in the first place, the container makes them more best.
Solomon and Andersen both say that.
The pinnacles of Heroic Spirits, the seven greatest knights of that era, the first seven who stand at the top.
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Thread Theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISuqZxWonMM
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>>128054396
>The Grands were already chosen as the best Heroic Spirits in their class.
No.

>That's why there are 7 original Grands.
Likely, but there are a few problems with that.

>Solomon, if summoned as a normal Caster, would still be the 'strongest' Caster.
Likely, but irrelevant.

Rest is fine.
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>>128054230
>45 Pages
>too poor
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>>128054597
why can't you all just love both
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>>128054446
>The first seven who stand at the pinnacle of Heroic Spirits.
>pinnacle of Heroic Spirits
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>>128052471
>I mean he's strong, but literally anyone else in a Grand class as well would wreck him

Hot damn you're retarded; its not JUST his grand container that makes him a threat. The reason he got the Grand container in the first place is because he's in the top seven of heroic spirits out there, the peak. He's one of the only people who could use a grand container properly even.

Even when you put Andersen in a normal servant container, he's already maxed out in a sense. When you put Solomon in a servant container though, he's horribly gimped at best. A grand container allows him to use his real power, as opposed to a lot of heroic spirits, where even a normal heroic spirit container is more than enough for them to demonstrate their power. A grand container fits Solomon because he's ten kinds of bullshit already, not just because he happened upon it.

No its not "Well anyone would destroy him if they had the same container", rather the reason he has that container is because he's already one of the strongest. Because in the past he was once summoned in the container before.

You could go through almost every servant out there, and give them the same container as him, and they'd still lose. Because his power is honestly quite legit.

There are some exceptions, heroes who's power can also only be expressed through a grand container, and are also horribly gimped in a normal servant container though, Like maybe King Arthur, Heracles, or Gilgamesh. If they were given the same container they might win one on one.
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>>128054718
Ma nigga.
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>>128053832
He kept fucking up because he is human. He is doing it on purpose. He realized humans have no time to be living by stupid ideals. Look at what happened to both Shirou and Saber in the end thanks for living by retarded ideals.

>>128053951
>Literally only read the last part of the whole paragraph.

>>128054173
Lancelot does have some personality though. We see some of it during Zero, then some more during Einsbern Consultation Room and then some more in Garden of Avalon.
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>>128051456
>the seven people who stand at top of an era
So each of the grands are from the eras we went to?
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This fucking nip
I swear it was only Lv. 3 about 2 days ago
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>>128054718
Actually, I do appreciate breasts of all sizes. I'm just shitposting. Sorry anon.
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>people still don't understand how Grand Servants work
Seriously? This again?
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>>128054597
>shinji poster is shit poster
No surprise there.
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>>128053517
Actually, who could fit grand berseker? Samson?
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>still hating on Liz
>not helping her get better and still doubting her
And I thought I was a faggot.
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>>128054396
It says there is a system that does that, but it never says that it was used. It also never even says it's limited to the Primate Murder, maybe is just a defense mechanism that uses Heroic Spirits, and as Andersen says, all Heroic Spirits are supposed to be protectors of humanity.
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>>128054692
>we have known for years that seven heroic spirits kept PM in check, either before or continuously
>the system is clearly an actual device since it's explicitly copied by humans
>Grands were never summoned before
Come on now
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>>128054396
>which is implied to be Primate Murder
"Implied to be" might be a little bit of a stretch. Literally the only thing connecting Primate Murder to the Grand Servants is a single years-old interview where Nasu said it takes 7 Counter Guardians to control Primate Murder.
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>>128054610
>you can't like villains because they are evil and bad
Go watch capeshit
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>>128054908
You can recreate an engine that's never been turned on, anonymous.
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>>128054891
The moment you insert your dick in this whore she will cut it off with her claws.
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>>128054763
Like with S&E, being put into a Grand container will probably boost them to a higher level in the same manner as the CCC Origin boost. That doesn't mean Andersen could equal or beat Solomon, but he'll probably be much stronger.
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What if Solomon was Olga the whole time?
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>>128054861
Nobody does because the whole thing is explained in a really vague way so Nasu can alter the whole thing as he sees convenient when he needs it, as he always does.
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>you will never know the pleasure of summoning Liz and then using a command seal to make her kill herself
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>>128054923
And the bit where that interview and GO both straight up say 'this is where HGWs come from'.
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Where is the best place to farm those weird crystal things?
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>>128054763
You're hilarious anon.
Switching "shit" for "him" is a pretty funny move.
And no, it obviously wasn't meant to be "his shit" It was "shit" in a global sense.
Go back to school.

The rest of your post is also pretty funny, although irrelevant.
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>>128055069
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>>128055031
>A rank magic Resist
>Battle Continuation
I mean if you have a death wish
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>>128055009
She's dead, and never coming back.
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>>128054889
The maddest guy around.
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>>128054783
>Look at what happened to both Shirou and Saber in the end thanks for living by retarded ideals.

They end up in a magical paradise and live happily ever after?
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>>128054783
>Look at what happened to both Shirou and Saber in the end thanks for living by retarded ideals.
Don't forget Kerry.
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>Hans needs SIX HORSESHOES
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>>128055031
>You will never know the pleasure of summoning pic related and using a command seal to force him into anal sex.
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>>128054923
Two things. It's also
>And what is that adversary, you ask? Could it be more obvious? It's a great disaster that threatens our world!
>An incarnation of the end that will not destroy the planet, but humanity, and the civilization that we've built!
>A devourer of civilizations, born from civilization -- it is none other than an apotheosis of our own creation.
Added to a statement from Fate/Hollow Ataraxia, of "the dog" being able to kill all humanity faster than 6 billion curses. (They clearly weren't summoned to deal with "the spider" because the spider is not a threat that targets just humanity, but the whole planet.) Primate Murder, the white hound of Gaia, was made exclusively to kill humans and nothing else.
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>>128054996
That's okay I don't need to have sex with her to love her. I'd be fine with no sex. Never had it so far anyway!
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>>128054895
Even if it isn't limited to PM, Andersen and Solomon both say that the original basis was seven specific HS, one of who is Solomon.
And it has to have been used because PM isn't murdering humans constantly, it's a system keeping him in check.
>>128054959
How could you recreate an engine that you didn't know exists? The system is run by otherworldly sentient concepts, the blueprints weren't just in a draw somewhere.
It has to have been observed.
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>>128054889
Kiyohime after you betray her
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>>128055069
Berserker 20AP daily.
The Okeanus quest never fucking drop them.
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>>128055149
I know to check the drop-map, but I still can't get any of them
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>>128055208
You obvioulsy don't need command spells for that silly anon, he would gladly do it if you ask in a cute way! That's why I love him so much
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>>128055207
The shitter needs Homo babies, Pages, Gears, and Horseshoes, like what the fuck?
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>>128055234
>How could you recreate an engine that you didn't know exists?
Magic eyes that see through time?
Fou fou.
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>>128055228
Good. Sex is bad Civilization.
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Can she win?
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>>128055234
PM is supposed to be a counter to humans, but nowhere is said he is supposed to destroy all humans. Maybe Gaia just uses it to control human numbers like with True Ancestors.
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>>128055318
That's because the drop rate is shit everywhere and there is no best place.
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>>128055180
Sure, whatever you say.
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>>128055461
Easily.
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>>128055425
But pillaging and raping are good civilization.
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>>128055407
first three are baby tier thanks to London + Blackbeard's interlude
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>>128055221
>A devourer of civilizations, born from civilization -- it is none other than an apotheosis of our own creation.
>born from civilization
Atila comfirmed terminator and final boss
:^)
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>>128055475
Angry Manjew straight up says the dog is for one thing and one thing only, killing people
And materials say it needs to be physically kept in check by HS.
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>>128055425
I WANT ATILLA TO DESTROY ME
>>128055461
Liz obviously, she actually managed to handle gilgamesh by herself
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>>128055009
>Grand Servants are supposed to protect humanity
>Lawful Good
>Solomon disguises himself as Olga and creates Chaldea to protect humanity
>appears as a "villain" to test our strength and tell us about the Grand Servants
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>>128055046
It said that HGWs came from the Grand Classes. There's still nothing concrete linking the Grand Classes to Primate Murder beyond just being "seven Heroic Spirits."

In fact,

>>128055221
>>A devourer of civilizations, born from civilization
If anything, that seems to imply that whatever the Grand Servants fought IS NOT Primate Murder, because Primate Murder came from Gaia, which is practically the opposite of civilization.

But in the end, I'm not trying to argue conclusively that they certainly did not fight Primate Murder, I'm just pointing out that it, currently, is not certain. So that people don't bitch if, somewhere down the line, we find out conclusively that they fought something else entirely.
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>>128055221
Is the dog stronger than the spider and arcueid
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>>128055461
Unless Arondight saves him from Gae Bolg Alternative, the black knight has no chance.
If she summons one of her heroic spirit allies, there's less than none.
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>>128054169
It would be at least cool they give special dialogues to servants team that defeated the story arc boss or at least for the final boss. The best they could so.
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>>128055425
Liz is just too pure and I'm just too shit.
Besides idol activities demand her be pure.
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>>128055675
The question that mentions PM and 7 CGs literally says "Servants of the Grail War are based on these."
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>>128055675
It's the Beast of Revelation, mark my words.
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>>128055518
Fate Shirou ends up in a magical paradise with Saber.
UBW Shirou doesn't regret his ideals like Emiya and in the anime adaptation "route" he ends up living his dream with Rin alongside him.
HF Shirou drops his ideals for Sakura.

There are a lot of bad ends, but if you're going by the good/true ones he doesn't end up regretting it.
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>>128055475
>Literally the beast of revelation
>nowhere is said he is supposed to destroy all humans

u what
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>>128055675
>If anything, that seems to imply that whatever the Grand Servants fought IS NOT Primate Murder, because Primate Murder came from Gaia, which is practically the opposite of civilization.
The reason for its murder was because the monkeys were up to some really weird shenanigans and earth got spooked.
Though I admit that's more like "born in response to civilization" than "born from civilization".. I'd have to see the japanese
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>>128055834
>Fate Shirou ends up in a magical paradise with Saber.
Some fractional percent of Shirous do.
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>>128055675
>It said that HGWs came from the Grand Classes. There's still nothing concrete linking the Grand Classes to Primate Murder beyond just being "seven Heroic Spirits."

>Q: About the power comparison between Arc and Servants, would the Arc being compared be the 30% one or the full one?

>A: That would be the 30% Arc. It takes 7 Counter Guardians to control the Primate Murder and the Servants of the Grail War are based on these.

>Solomon
>Indeed. The seven Heroic Spirits are heavenly emissaries sent to destroy a certain evil.

>The seven greatest knights of that era, who protect humanity's foundations. The first seven who stand at the pinnacle of Heroic Spirits.

>Originally, the evocation ritual "Heroic Spirit Summoning" was meant to save the human world.

>It was your summoning system, the Holy Grail War, that degraded it into something that could be used at the convenience of humans.

They literally spell it out.
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>>128055610
Yes, but killing people doesn't mean killing ALL people. As I said, he is a counter, not a mass civilization murderered. As far we know he should being killing people to keep humanity in check as one of Gaia's counters.

And following that logic I don't think PM has seven Grand Servants restraining him 24/7 either.

>>128055896
Nowhere is said that the Primate Murder is the Beast of Revelation, stop the headcanon please.
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>>128055829
But which one? There are two.
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>>128055461
Not even A AGI + Instinct can save someone from this.
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>>128055584
A fucking 2 stars shouldn't need that much of rare mats in the first place.
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>>128056125
But what about [Protection from Arrows]?
Remember Scathach has "literally every non-unique skill in the game" at rank B or A
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>>128055968
>>128056019
So what did they do than pissed Gaia so much?
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>>128056230
According to the prologue of Tsukihime, it's their nature of being intelligent creatures that do not rely on the world but stake out their own existence that frightens the planet.
Humans don't anger the planet, not really. The planet at first sees them as interesting, but scary. Later, it sees them as a fun set of toys to play with, basically sharing the opinion of Crimson Moon Brunestud. Mankind's apocalypse is a game to Earth.
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>>128052304
>implying Shirou can't trace Ars Almadel Salomonis powered by the seven holy grails and destroy the original
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>>128055820
>>128056019
Good point, I completely forgot about that part of the quote. But, to continue playing devil's advocate, the phrasing "it takes" sounds more like a hypothetical or simply a description of how it works than something that actually happened at some point in history.
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>>128056230
Gaia is just tsundere.
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>>128056029
Nasu has said on at least two different occasions, years apart, that seven HS control PM and keep him in check.
He has also said on two different, separate occasions, that the system used to control PM with 7 HS is the one that the HGW is based on
It has to have been used at some point, since PM has been around for a long time, manifested physically since he knows Altrouge personally, and humans have directly copied that exact system. Humans who couldn't do anything like just tap into Gaia or Alaya and take a peek, either.
Solomon was one of the original 7 Grands, who has summoned himself because he's a cunt. But he was a Grand before GO.
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>>128055157
She dead?
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I want to lick every single piece of muscle of Kintoki
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Enkidu is grand Berserker


Tiamat is grand Lancer
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>>128056576
That's a bit of a stretch until they confirm it directly. There is enough leeway for Nasu go into other direction and people whine because "it wasn't like this". We should be always careful with whatever new lore tidbits they throw because what people calls "retcons" comes from assumptions like these.
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New player but old TM fan here, how are they justifying summoning people like Sherlock Holmes (who is just a character in a story) and Merlin (who's supposed to be alive)?
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>>128056776
I'm hoping for Heracles as Grand Archer.
We don't need more Gilgamesh wank.
He already gets Grand Gilgamesh as a class anyway.
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>>128056830
The rules don't apply any more because of unexplained reasons. The most explanation we have is 'it works differently'.
In short, they don't.
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>>128053880
>cute
>good singer
>cute
>A FUCKING DRAGON
>fashionable
>cute
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>>128056830

Arsene Lupin when?
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>>128056213
That won't work against missiles because MUH AoE. Sniping works too.

PoA isn't invulnerability against projectiles either, it's just a very good protection against them. Vulcan at mid range is so stupid not even Instinct could predict the initial velocity of the shower of bullets.

>Protection from Arrows is an increased defense against ranged attacks by predicting the projectiles' trajectories through exceptional means, such as hearing the sound of air being cut, or sensing the killing intent of the enemy.
>as long as the shooter is within his line of sight, he can track down ranged weapons with his eyes and defend against them. Does not apply for attacks made from super-long-range or with a great area-of -effect.
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>>128056830
Fictional heroes have always been able to be a thing even if they keep making them the "person the story was based off of" and Merlin will be like Scat probably (i.e. "i dunno").
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>>128056830
Holmes might be a grand Servant otherwise there's no reason why he would be missing from London

As for merlin he's not a Servant yet. He's just being a neet in avalon
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>>128056830
We don't even saw any of them yet.

And it depends, Jekyll and Frankenmoe were actually people that got a story based on them. There are two versions of the same legends who existed at the same time in kind of quantum way (Siegfried and Sigurd), the past and legends are odd in the Nasuverse, humans beliefs seem to shape it in one way or another.
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>>128056971
>>good singer
I've got some bad news for you anon...
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>>128055829
It would be hilarious if Manaka shows up and hijacks the plot with a reveal that Solomon was just preparing you all along to fight her.
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>>128056971
She's as good at sing as she is at cooking
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>>128056576
There's still two wrinkles in that theory.

The first is that it was never stated that Primate Murder is what the Grand system was actually, specifically designed to combat.

The second is that we have no idea how long Primate Murder has existed for. Specifically, how long it existed before being Altrouge's bitch, if at all. It's possible that Altrouge is older than PM, and that she made it her bitch from the very beginning, meaning it's never really had a chance to slaughter indiscriminately in such a way that would require Counter Force action.
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>>128056805
What, you think Nasu is going to backpedal and have Grands be random people who are just fucking around when Saber is Grand Saber?
Don't be insane, Takeuchi would never let him.
Grands are the best who save humanity, put in a boosted class on top of their superiority, lead by Grand Arturia in all her seibahface glory.
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>>128056675
She died in the explosion at Chaldea and her spirit rayshifted to Fuyuki. Lev sends her spirit on its way at the end of the prologue.
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>>128057073
>>128057161
She's the toppest of all aidorus, what are you implying?
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So I was reading the Fuyuki storyline and saw this. Does this mean that Fate is the canon route?
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>>128048192
As her senpai, she wants you to have your own senpai room to do your senpai things in. Senpai.
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>>128057220
I guess this happens when you skip everything and only care about the pokemon part of this game.

How sad, she was cute.
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>>128057187
That's assuming even more.

Actually, I think that in the story itself we will only get to see Artoria going Grand Saber and we will fill the blanks with the Grail Ascensions.
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>>128056993
Are you french anon?
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>>128056830
Merlin is still alive. Merlin is Fou. The little white squirrel lookin nigga. Merlin is one of your companions in Grand Order.

Ever since Extra have we established that even people who were just story characters become servants. Its nothing new.

The real big change you should be made aware of is that gods are now able to be servants as well.
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>>128057332
In the continuum F/GO exists, yes.
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>>128057332
No, because it's obvious going through the Fuyuki storyline that many of the Servants that were summoned don't match up with the FSN Servants. Primarily Cu as Caster and Ben Kei as Lancer.
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>>128056830
The novels are treated as stories based on actual people, like Mary Shelly just happened to know of the magus Victor Frankenstein and his creation.
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>>128051305
People are stupid

It was a war, she knew what she was in for by accepting the conditions of entering the war, she tortured and killed people as well, she wasn't a little girl, she wasn't a person at all.

Hot damn, people always go "But he's so evil, he killed a competitor in the same war as himself, that's really fucking evil"

Ilya herself has done worse that we've seen, and no really thinks she's evil. Because its a war, that's how it works, you are trying to kill each other. Only Shirou is the outlier, he's not the norm here. Its like entering a chess tournament and "What the fuck, you're not supposed to play chess here, get the fuck out you bastard". No you aren't evil for killing people in a war where they entirely enter the contest knowing this is a risk and volunteering while knowing the risk and being willing to do the same thing to others.

>"But he cut her eyes a bit".

Meanwhile she turned people into her eternal torture puppets after ripping their souls out, among other things. Its a war, they were all prepared for that shit except for Shirou.

"Well Evil cat wished for the happiness of all people ever, clearly she's ultra fucking good"

She used to kill people that lost to her in a race, voluntarily she created that rule, and enforced it. And Neutral Evil doesn't mean "Mwehhehe, I'm so evil, I like doing evil things". There are entire ranges for how this works if you've done D&D, no, no matter how much you meme "Nasu's saying she's so evil and kicks puppies, Naus is stupid, she likes kids so she's not evil, she's not evil" all you're showing is that you have no idea what alignments even mean. No this isn't a contradiction, not really. Neutral evil just means you're generally self serving, and do what you need to do to get ahead. It doesn't mean "Mwehehe". Who really verifies for a neutral evil character in fiction, you'd be damn surprised considering how people think this works with "Oh, it means they're just evil".
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>>128057332
>>128057494
They are talking about what happened in this version of the war, you will see.
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>>128057473
>Merlin is Fou
What.
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>>128057332

Heavens fell is the Canon route
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>>128057407
>never get Grand Saber or Grand Caster of our own
It's much more likely that all the Grands are specific characters, best in their class, and the player promotes their own 7 Grands to fight them, IMO.
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>>128057332
It could be sort of said that Saber won the Zero war and UBW as well.
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>>128057473
It's more likely that Merlin is watching everything through Fou. He specifically releases a familiar at the start of Garden of Avalon, so that's likely Fou.
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>>128057589
>being this late
>missing all the hints and even the leaks
>not realising the design
Jesus anon you are blind
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>>128057332
The HGW5 in GO was a bit odd. Cu changed classes to Caster and Benkei was the Lancer.
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>>128056998
>That won't work against missiles because MUH AoE
Tell that to Gilgamesh's Gate of Babylon, then. Cu survived twelve hours of it and there are many AoE weapons in there, Vajra being a notable one that shows up a lot.
By "great AoE" it means shit like anti-army noble phantasms.
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>>128045116
Who /jeanne/ here!!!
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>>128057568
>this autist is back
Do we really need to point out how completely wrong you are about Atalanta again?
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>>128056971
I love my waifu!

>>128057073
You just can't handle the dragon.

>>128057161
Her cooking skills can't matter to me when just about anything I eat kills me anyway.
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>>128057713
I just started playing this week.
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>>128057332
Were you paying attention to the story in G/O at all? If you were, then you'd realize that no, not exactly.

Also there is no "Canon" route, there are only time-lines.

What you should be asking is "So G/O happens in the same time-line as Fate route?". Saying "SO THIS IS THE CANON ROUTE?" makes you retarded.

It would make sense if this happened after the Fate route, considering Waver's novel happens after UBW, and Fate/Strange happens after Heaven's Feel.
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>need 96 more tusks, 40 Phoenix plumes, 60 more dust and 33 more chaos claws

Maxing Okita's skills is suffering ;_;
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>>128057589
That's how it is mate. F/GO is pretty much a game of cat and mouse with merlin and solomon. Though the latter didn't realize fou was merlin when they met
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>>128057589
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>>128057756

How would Benkei have done in the 5Th war?
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>>128057685
Probably the likely scenario. Its still something under Merlin's control either way.
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>>128057568
>self serving
>literally one of the least self serving characters in the entire Typeverse
>self serving
Stop shitposting because you don't like evil cat.
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>>128057808
Leave my daughteru alone!
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>>128057589
Maybe not him directly (it's his familiar), but by proxy it's him.
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AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>128057817
>considering Waver's novel happens after UBW, and Fate/Strange happens after Heaven's Feel.

Explain.
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>>128045116
>>128057987
My daughteru!
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>>128057817
>considering Waver's novel happens after UBW
What? Case Files is set before the HGW, they don't even got to that in the story, it's going to happen in the near future.
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So, when will be the Moon Cell chapter released?
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>>128057685
Fou is merlin controlled though. It went absolutely nuts when roman called merlin a filthy NEET and it always reacts when someone mentions him. Plus it looks just like him
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>>128057907
Original design Benkei with Bazett would be pretty broken.
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>>128057907
Hard countered by Kojirou.
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>>128057907
Benkei canonically beats both lancelot and gilgamesh in his interlude.
Hes also like a much better version of memecelot with his np taking on top of his own nps.
The only thing hes missing is raw stats and dealing with god hand reliably.
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>>128057313
She doesn't even have an idol stat profile. Hell, she's not even signed with a label or an agency. The only living creatures who would listen to her sing are wild animals she intrudes on, and they hate her for it. I mean, fuck, not only is she a bad idol, she's actually not even a real idol.
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F/GO anime when?
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>>128058030
First it's untrue and the second is just an assumption that will never be answered as Narita already said in the afterword.
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>>128050427
No, because if I'm saving all my quart for the Alter Ego I truly love... Meltlilith.
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>>128058069
iirc someone who did Mordred's interlude mentioned that Fou looked happy when Mordred sorted her feelings toward her father.
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>>128057987
But she's my waifu!
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>>128058126
He also loses against herc
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>>128058034
>the loli turned to this
What went wrong?
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>>128057907
Doesn't he lose to a Saber Alter who doesn't have infinite mana in GO?

Not too well,imo
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>>128058202
OVA by DEEN in Autumun 2016.
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>>128057825
Maxing anyone's skills is suffering. Just do it casually as something to keep you occupied while there's nothing else to do, and celebrate every skill level as a small victory.
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>>128058261
Yeah that too

Honestly merlin looks and sounds amazing so I hope we get him for clearing the story
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>>128057589
>>128057815
Check out>>128057862

That's Merlin's official design. Its still a mystery who are what Fou is for characters like Mashu and the MC/FeMC. Mashu says at the beginning he just showed up at Chaldea one day and started following her around and after awhile everyone just got used to seeing him around.

But we as the player know what Merlin actually looks like so we can put 2 and 2 together to get Four. LOL fuck I'm good.

But yeah, Fou is either Merlin himself shapeshifted or Fou is a familiar being controlled by Merlin. Whatever it is, its directly related to Merlin. And now with Solomon entering in its pretty apparent Merlin will be a big part of the rest of the story to come.
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>>128058030
Just a general theory so far; there's a plot point in volume two of F/S that basically says it could only happen in HF route, or some route that we've never seen before. Basically it involves the Einzebern's, and the fact that the grail was destroyed recently, but not in a way where it could be Fate or UBW.

Also people always go "Well Case Files should have Rin and Shirou as characters, they're Clock Tower characters, its stupid that they're not there" or something. Originally people bitched in /a/ threads that it was Waver's story, because people bitched that there should be a canon continuation of F/SN that only takes place after UBW route in Clock Tower with Rin and Shirou as lovers or whatever, as they solved all of London's problems as a super canon couple. They said London story needed to happen, but it only works with Shirou and Rin or something.

So people assume it takes place during UBW, or eventually Rin and Shirou will be there as characters.

If each story has some continuation like this, then it fits I guess.
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I kinda want to see Meltlilith molest Liz.
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One day. One day, I'll roll her.
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tfw you give away your main and the person who took it didnt even say thanks ('<_')
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>>128058371
That Gudako is clearly Gudako Alter
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>>128057763
PoA not working on the weapons doesn't mean that they will get BTFO by them by default. Anime Lancelot could block Vajra without problems and he doesn't have PoA.

GoB also has anti-army NPs and Cu survived it, does that mean PoF protects against that too and maybe Anti-World too? Stop being retarded, please.
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>>128058482
>tfw have rolled her 8 times and her younger version twice
FUCK OFF MEDEA
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>>128058482
>not having a silver who has been out for months
Literally how
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Daughterus?
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>>128058482
wat

I rolled that bitch like 10 times already.
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BB dressed as Big Boss when
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>>128058406
I expect him to be a world unlock with the same exclusivity as the rest of them.
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Illya should have summoned Kiyohime.
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>>128058449
SF happens after Case Files, because Gray appears in SF v2 with Waver when they see Flat in TV and sending them Gilgamesh photos.
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>>128058542
I don't even know why but this is so incredibly cute it makes me want to kill myself.
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>>128058563
>>128058585

It's the desire sensor fucking me, man.
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>>128058149
>Hes also like a much better version of memecelot with his np taking on top of his own nps.
But he can't use random shit as exchange.
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>>128058371
Gachas.
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>>128058569
I will find you. And I will hurt you.
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>>128058641
Gray would be around with Waver in all the routes though because she meets him before FSN even starts.
That connection doesn't change any theories about when SF is set.
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>>128057862
Myddrin when
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>>128058641
I wonder if Waver is going to fly to 'murica and stand off against Gilgamesh again to save Flat later in the story.
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>>128058763
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>>128058261
Yes this is true. Its what you said. Its noted Fou looks happy when Mordred admits that she really does love Artoria and just didn't want her to be lonely and adds that it would be incredibly embarrassing if any of the other knights of the round table had heard her.
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>>128057862
Who drew that anyway? Was it taiki?
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>>128058627
this desu
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>>128058551
>GoB also has anti-army NPs
None that Gil ever activates. It just has some explosive weapons. Gil doesn't use the activated NPs of his gate very often.
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>>128058658
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>>128058789
I don't think that they would never reveal any clear route connection, Narita seems pretty adamant in that and Sanda is probably the same. I think they believe that only Nasu is the one who should write a direct sequel.
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>>128058482
>bottom right corner
at least get a non fucked version of that
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I want to read a book.
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>>128058627
I wonder if she would still try to make a lover out of a literal child. Or an animal...
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>>128058563
To be fair I've only ever rolled one Caster Gilles ever and hes been out since launch.
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>>128058942

That's from Garden of Avalon, so Takeuchi doing character designs with Koyama doing coloring
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>>128059016
>I think they believe that only Nasu is the one who should write a direct sequel.
I would be inclined to agree, if it wasn't for Narita respecting the property more then Nasu does right now.
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>>128058995
If you are going to argue that then I can argue he didn't use any weapons with AoE either.
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>>128058942
>>128059090
https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts?tags=taiki_(luster) it matches his style so I think he might have done that page at least. Doesn't resemble takeuchi/koyamas art at all
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>>128059090
I would love to see Takeuchi's Merlin concept art.
Fate/Grand Order Material when?
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>>128058847
How is Waver going to save Flat when Flat is far more powerful than him as a magus? Flat was Brand level during Case Files according to Touko, that's Kayneth tier.
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>>128059081
Caster Gilles is quartz gacha only. Medea can be pulled with FP, so she is much more common and easier to get despite being newer.
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>>128059247
Flat is also retarded and needs all the help he can get.
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>>128059190
Saying Gil used his activated noble phantasms, which he has done exactly once ever (Merodach), is not out of line. He uses weapons with large devastation left and right, even normal gate shots leave craters and nearly every single time he uses it there are mentions of mysterious weapons that do bizarre things like freeze the air or explode into multiple bullets and shit.
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>>128059247
Flat has more talent and raw power, Waver has more experience, knowledge and practical ability.
Waver is also much smarter.
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>>128059214
Why do the best artists attached to go only do one or two characters?
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>>128059247
Flatt is also retarded so there's that.
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>>128059214

Takeuchi was listed as the illustrator for GoA so unless that guy's in the small print somewhere, it's takeuchi
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>>128059247
I don't think his ability as a magus matters much when facing a Servant. I was thinking after something like Jack dies, Flat is around Gil for some reason, Waver arrives for whatever reason, stands facing Gil in the same way as Zero, and then Gil spares them both for X reason.
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>>128059370
>Nobunaga
>Picture of a man
NASUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
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>>128059441
>practical ability
Waver's a D rank failure in terms of ability, even as Lord El Melloi II.
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>>128059370
Or he would just survive through sheer and pure luck. Add to that performing impossible magecraft just because and using a magical system that it's supposed to be rubbish that doesn't even work (Chaos Magic) but that it does work because we are talking about Flat Escardos, someone who is able to summon a Servant without a circle, an incantation and with a toy catalyst.
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>>128058569

How would Tomaru do in a HGW if he summons rance?
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>>128059536
>implying Waver won't use his buffs on Flat and make Gil go ONORE ONORE ONORE
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>>128059527
Takeuchi just did the cover.
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>>128059628
I mean that Waver has actually used magic in a hostile position before, and has been studying and experimenting with his own magic for years.
Waver knows very well what he is and isn't capable of, Flat just runs headfirst into shit and worries about consequences later.
Flat getting into a situation that he can't think his way out of but Waver could isn't exactly impossible.
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>>128059418
Who says he needs to activate them? Look at the weapons he threw at Chtulu. Saying Gil used weapons with AoE when he has only done so against a few enemies is also stupid. He didn't use any of that shit against Heracles, what makes you think he will against Cu?
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>>128059527
Yeah I don't know. That merlin page still doesn't look like something takeuchi would put out due to the colors used and the way the eyes are drawn. Maybe I'm just not used to seeing him draw guys nowadays
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>>128059527
>it's takeuchi
Takeuchi can only make one face and Merlin doesn't have it
Also pretty sure Taiki was comfirmed as Merlin artist
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>>128059859
>Who says he needs to activate them? Look at the weapons he threw at Chtulu.
You mean the ones that blew away 1/3rd of the mountain sized fleshbeast?
Those are pretty AoE to me.
>He didn't use any of that shit against Heracles
He was toying with Heracles and shooting at Illyasviel, using explosions that would go around him would be against that spirit to begin with.
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