- Cloud Strife from Final Fantasy VII is now available as a downloadable fighter.
- Corrin from Fire Emblem Fates is set to arrive as a downloadable fighter sometime in February.
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how can i find people to netplay melee with who arent complete retards but also wont absolutely destroy me since im somewhat new?
Alright that's it. Now you forced me to do somethin I didn't never want to do.
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I will be the best dogoo hunt in ssbg.
>trying to get in more Mewtwo practice before bed
>all I end up learning is that Shadow Ball destroys shitters and people get upset with how early he can kill
>most of which are Mario, Ness, Cloud, Fox or that Villager who plants trees all game and doesn't know what to do if you stop Lloyd and Slingshot
None of my friends are online and Anthers is chock full of shitters using top 8 and the occasional 1/10 nice guy who you learn something from.
>changing language in system setting also changes the smash annoucer, text and a characters voices
Every time I give my dog Dentastix I'm reminded of this fucker. It must be the teeth.
I'm getting a chuckle out of french now to try spanish
I tried there, all people do is argue, post about getting bodied by Sheik, Little Mac, ZSS or Cloud and call them bullshit broken characters.
I might start texting niggas and see if I get a response to practice my main and sub with tomorrow.
>Best girl didn't make the roster
>Ike in Spanish
Think about it like this way
No one cares whether or not you're there, so you can speak your mind freely
It's similar to being anon on 4chan, only thing different is you can't shitpost or people'll know it's you
>everyone on my friends list starting dubs and games without letting the thread know
>no more banter in the threads from these discord lobbies
>dead threads all day and getting worse
RIP /ssbg/ 2014-2016
We had a good run
El pueplbo y la ciuda > Pueblo Smash
Post your fantasy drafts for smash wii u or melee for genesis 3.
Go make one if you didn't
Shut down these hubs that are mainly used for the purpose of shitposting, please
>>ssbg suffered the same fate as mk8g
no, not the same fate as /mk8g/, but /ink/
Have you taken a look at /ink/ lately? Basically only meme shitposting and waifufag shitposting
Someone made a discord group a while back and it absorbed all the regulars there. In fact, it was someone who was in the /ink/ discord group who had the bright idea to replicate the idea in /ssbg/ and here we are now.
I've been in the Discord on and off for like almost 2 weeks now, mostly just lurking around to see if anything goes down.
As far as I know, only like 2 or 3 people are actually in high school, and the rest are in their 20s. And the high schoolers aren't even the insufferable ones. Its mostly the colossal faggots like chazo who constantly try to talk about how much better they are than everyone, then I'm about 99.9999% sure they are the people coming to this thread talking shit directly at a specific person, only because they can do it anonymously.
Its like going to high school again but online.
Not sure if all 8 from Melee are attending but place your bets anyways
I respect your opinions but genesis 3 is the biggest smash 4 tourney to date in quality of players and the crews are stacked as hell
Are there ever any big tournaments in the midwest or even southwest?
wasn't big house 5 a major in midwest lol?
I don't think there's big tourneys in southwest other than local weeklies and whatnot because I never fucking see anyone from that crew play other than K9 in norcal
>tfw u rekt someone so hard and they dont stop rematching you until they get that revenge win but they end up playing too hard and predictable and lose every match over and over again
>tfw you cant post on miiverse because your name is weed related
i should change my name because i actually quit smoking now
>tfw wake up to ADGQ preparing to play my favorite game
Anyone up to play? NNID ProfessorKokonoe
Using the random button and sticking with whoever I get paired up with, no matter how painful it is.
GGs. Your Diddy is solid. I was going to tell you to not always commit to dtilt -> up smash or the kick with side B but you fixed that after just a few games. Your ZSS and Robin looked pretty good too.
I should have gone for the Diddy ditto but I killed myself so many time with my main I didn't want to whip out my shitty secondary.
Honestly I've never used Diddy seriously until today, I tried doing things I've seen on streams but it ended up just being dtilt and monkey kick spam.
I really wanna know how he works and why he kicks my main's ass all the time. A ditto might've been good to learn from desu.
Well, you were doing a good job of emulating it. The banana B reverses and using tons of fair are something you gotta do with Diddy. I like to save monkey kick for recovery and tech chase reads, or using the jump to ruin a bad recovery character's day. Dtilt is one of his best moves though so you pretty much have to abuse it all the time. If you watch Zero play you'll see him pretty much rolling around using it until he can get the grab. Who is your main? I might be able to help you with the matchup but I doubt it since I'm ass with Diddy.
I'm going to do it
I'm going to sell my soul and main this bitch
ZSS was my main. A lot of my b reversed bananas just came out as kicks, or just regular ass banana pulls. The motion shouldn't be anything foreign to me but I just kept missing them as well as actually catching the banana. Really it's just the whole concept of item play I'm not used to, I use Robin a lot but her dropped books and levin sword aren't a staple of her gameplay and neutral like Diddy's banana.
She's fun, enjoy.
>not maining power suit samus
THE PAIN IS A GOOD PAIN
>biggest bracket threat
>Diddy vs. ZSS
When I play ZSS I have a lot of trouble hitting any of the smaller characters like him and the PK kids. On top of that his grab is way better, his options out of shield are better if you're right next to each other, and she doesn't always have the offstage presence to gimp him. I dunno man I'm bad and apparently haven't watched Nairo play against zero and MVD enough to figure it out. Definitely learn to catch bananas if you're going to pick up Diddy and get good at catching them even if you aren't. It's a huge tool for him so if you can remove that when playing against him you're much better off. Plus it gives you a free grab and we all know how much she loves grabs.
Can't imagine that was fun for either of us
GGs The Dude
>his options out of shield are better if you're right next to each other,
Don't forget that banana in hand is an OoS option since you can still jump canceled toss so shield pressure has another factor to look out for.
>up this early
I just woke up.
Sorry for having to bust out Rosalina, non-approaching wi-fi Macs are my panic button. Do you play Yoshi or Pikachu? No idea how to play the latter but please stop Ground Pounding, especially against Rosie
its cool, ive been up for more than 24 hours now and ya pikachu, yoshi and greninja are my fun characters but you kept it 100% and rekt me with ur godlike rosa all night, it kinda made me not want to play anymore which is why i just kept spammin moves because i just didnt have it in me to play anymore plus im getting kinda sleepy
but ya man at least i got a few wins in tho and learned some new things ggs kristian
Because that guy really wanted to jerk off to all three of them together. The man is a national hero, really.
Extremely important Poll
>No DLC character interests me
>See another FE representative
>Oh for Fuck Sa-
>Its a guy/girl that turns into a dragon,just my kind of thing
>ready to buy it on release
i am such a waifu fag
We could just keep using ssbg as we did before. It doesn't help that some of the Discord users are posting stuff like >>127977747.
The threads are slower but still quite active.
>can i suck your dick
A-Anon don't be lewd...
M-Maybe, but just this once.
I'm game for some doubles. It's the Koopa anon.
Not that great of an example since Showdowngg is more well known for melee than smash 4. When there's a major with multiple streams, they're nearly always doing one of the melee ones.
RHS has been on smash 4 melee videos.
Sorry to cut it short, but have to leave for work.
Good games, dubs.
Ggs Dubs lobby. Gamepad is about to die unfortunately but thanks for the set.
Ah ta Chronos. Your Robin Duo though, its like fighting a pair of combat dancers. So graceful looking yet so dangerous! Got a nice Cloud too going there, that double finishing touch was spot on!
Post me some Smash 4 Wii U matches of combo heavy/punish game heavy and/or aggressive Doc, Charizard, Lucario, Sonic, Yoshi, Bowser, Roy, and/or post-patch Mewtwo
Nairo vs ESAM MLG Winners Semi's and Losers Finals
Motsunabe's entire run through Umebura 20.
6WX or SuperGirlKels. No matches that really stand out but both are more aggressive than the other sonic mains, Heero and Komorikiri.
I dunno. Raptor's sets I guess. Maybe DIO.
I dunno. Sethlon's done some things but never outside of his little region.
Chaos' run at Smash 4-Ever 32.
I've just come from playing more traditionally based fighting games and have been having a blast playing Sm4sh with some friends. Are there any good resources for an aspiring Mewtwo player? I love the way he feels and he's just kind of my favourite character in general.
From mewtwo's release. Most of this is still relevant despite him getting buffed since then.
Is useful. While he overestimates some of mewtwo's qualities heavily, he does give a very effective explanation on how to play mewtwo.
Because Mewtwo is such an unforgiving character. You can do great, do combos and hit like a freight train. But 3 mistakes is enough to get you killed. He dies at 70-80% with a strong enough attack which for Smash is super, super early.
Essentially, Mewtwo is a glass cannon with a much stronger emphasis on the glass.
>hahaha you played a character you like
>here's an anime girl for your troubles
It's not that futile though
If someone out the dedication into learning how all of Mewtwo's moves work and how they can be used to trump other characters moves, wouldn't it be cool to see that on a tourney?
>wouldn't it be cool to see that on a tourney?
Mewtwo would literally be incapable of breaking through the top 5 characters. So you might RNG your way out of pools, but you will then be instantly BTFO by even an incompetent ZSS.
It's Smash 4. You can only rely on reads and outplaying your opponent for so long. After a point, you need to switch to a character that can handle the MU.
If you are looking for strong advice for Mewtwo, the Smashboards Mewtwo forums have a lot of dedicated mains you could learn from very well. We don't have any Mewtwo mains here unfortunately.
you can play anyone at a casual level, but if you want to compete with semi-professional players, you need to be realistic.
there's no sense in asking about who you should use if you're just going to play with your friends or on ssbg/anther's. just play whoever you like.
Oh I'm not >>128005903, I play Lucas
I think that's a bit of an exaggeration
>only rely on reads and outplaying your opponent for so long
Reacting also works anon. Instead of sinking them into a trap that they're too smart to fall into, why not react to another person's play style and find their openings?
>Reacting also works anon. Instead of sinking them into a trap that they're too smart to fall into, why not react to another person's play style and find their openings?
Depends on how incompetent they are - but that's going to be what it takes. Why would a character with great mobility and safe options take a risk versus Mewtwo? You'll just get patiently spaced out, forced into a position where YOU have to take a risk, and then maybe you land it - maybe you don't. Defensive and reactionary play will trump all in Smash 4, you're right, but you're assuming the ZSS will senseless take risks. She won't.
That's the difference. The top 5 exist for two reasons: they have unparalleled, safe mobility, and Rosalina.
There is nothing you can do to overcome that, besides switching to a character that can compete. That's not to say only the top 5 can compete - far from it - but there are several characters that literally have almost zero chance. Mewtwo is one of them.
>why does a thread with an average of 90 people have differing opinions
If your sole goal is to win, then play whatever character you can win with.
Some players have a specific character they want to win with. There's nothing wrong with taking that character as far as they can.
aMSa did it in melee. Even in smash 4, Mr. E mains Marth because he wants to win with Marth. If there is a situation where he would rather play someone else than lose the set, he'll go to Sheik.
See, I don't agree with that solely because we're way too early into this game's metagame to completely shut out other characters. You said there's a top 5 that are comprised of safe mobility and Rosalina, but why is Rosalina the outlier? Someone put in the time to learning how other characters fair and how they can use Rosalina's move set to its full potential.
>but why is Rosalina the outlier?
Because you don't fight Rosalina, you fight Luma. In effect, this turns Rosalina into one of the bulkiest characters in the game that doesn't rely on raw mobility.
>we're way too early into this game's metagame
We're really not. The game's not fast or complex enough to allow for the kind of wiggle room that evolves into a metagame - or at least the kind of metagame you're referring to. The only meta that will develop will be between MU's involving the top 5 (minus Rosalina), because their safe mobility allows them a much greater degree of control.
Characters like Mewtwo have a tremendously low skill ceiling, specifically for this reason. He doesn't have the speed, mobility, or low-startup/low-lag options that would let him grow as a character. He's just extremely simple, and extremely bad.
>bulky characters rely on mobility
are you retarded?
And Mewtwo is not simple, he has high speed and a few options, which is better than having only one.
I agree with your other point though, the metagame won't change much.
reminder the worst thing you can do is sharestock your partner when he's 150%+
>>bulky characters rely on mobility
Mobility is survivability. Mobility is life. Thus, mobile characters tend to effectively be the bulkiest. Pikachu will typically live longer than Donkey Kong or Bowser at a high level.
>And Mewtwo is not simple
Too much startup, too much lag. Mewtwo is probably one of the most shallow characters in the game.
Reminder that a fresh stock acting to protect a 150% stock is better than a 150% stock then a fresh stock in a 2v1
Reminder that a fresh stock acting to protect a 150% stock duruing a 2v1 is better than a 150% stock then a fresh stock playing a 1v1
so i feel like learning mario after never using him ever since 64
what are some things i should know besides le utilt xdddd? i'm making an effort to try to cape recoveries and experiment with what it stops to varying success
also managed to get a combo of sorts on a few people from around 0-80, not sure if it's a true combo or if i'm just sloppy at performing it
Use more nair and bair. Both are relatively safe. You can even wall of bair some characters.
Spam up smash occasionally because someone will run into it.
Do the up throw dair combo at 0%.
Nair outta combos if possible. Up B is just as fast and stronge rbut way more punishable.
When your opponent hits the shield from behind, fadeback nair OoS into them to punish.
Up B is actually your fastest OoS option but nair and grab are usually better.
If high enough to do knockback, make sure you walk up and watch for the tech. If they miss it lock them with jab.
At mid percents, the tip of your jab 1-2 can get you a grab.
Fade backwards with your nair. Jump back so that the long lasting hitbox covers more horizontal space.
You can also do that if your opponent is in front of you since it creates space with a hitbox covering yourself.
Kirby's combo and height laugh at heavies/fast fallers and tall characters. So that means that Dorf gets bodied but characters like Falcon have a lot of similar problems.
Kirby has next to no answer against Rosalina and Luma.
Pay off my parents mortgage, me and my sisters' loan debt, buy property far away from flood zones and be a loafing landlord for the rest of my days.
I like your thinking
>there will never be an eccentric billionaire with a passion for smash bros
>he will never host a multi-million dollar prize pot invitational
>he will never fly out 128 of the best smash players from each game to his private venue
>we'll never have the most stacked tournament even possible
Anyone want to play?
Up for anything really.
>almost entirely unpunishable
I lose respect for anyone who plays Cloud.
Shit character from shit series that carries bad players because of how easy he is to play. It's no wonder Mew2King loves him, he always plays the easiest characters in every Smash game.
>Upair, Bair and Nair have no lag and can't be punished if properly spaced.
>Dair can also easily be autocanceled, so you can't punish it.
>Cross Slash has no lag
>His upair does 13%, has no lag, has a lasting hitbox and combos in to other moves.
>Easiest combos to hit in the entire game.
Literally sword Mario
>frame 8+ moves are easy to space
>he can't deal with the most telegraphed autocancel
>he can't punish cross slash
do not stick things in
>>that PK Thunder
it's the best move
i'm stealin your megawatts
I think your attitude is what's holding you back from learning the matchup, which isn't as difficult when you learn the buster spacing and will only become more prevalent since Cloud's most definitely top tier.
If I got my shield broken twice I'd want my opponent to stop getting near me too.
watch the fucking webm, if he hadn't held shield he would have died for sure, had he not slid off stage esam could have come to save him instead of him dying from "must not get my shield broken"