/ssg/ - Soccer Spirits General #152
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reminder to get your desired ardor unique as they are all trending right now
quality husbando reporting in, hercules a shit
There's only one acceptable male and it's Kei.
Vitos doesn't count she's a loli in disguise.
Help /ssg/ what does it say?
>About to bitch that I havent gotten a Jenny in ~30 matches
>Look back at the game, have a Jenny
Im sorry for almost saying something bad about you, Jenny, lets go back to the way things were, when you would show up twice every 30 ST or so.
This is literally the only acceptable Kei.
I don't own our boy Hiro, so dunno if it's the actual in-game quote.
We must settle this.
The last one sounds cooler in nip though.
I use rainbow team but am thinking of making a mono ardor team since I have a decent roster of ardor players now. Would this make a good team?
>Roina becomes what Enthia wants to be.
That would be hilarious.
Wait a minute, Wouldn't a roina piercing 2 lines and dealing 50% damage + all her accumulated damage utterly annihilate every single gk in the game?
BB please make this happen.
>dark is being bullied too much
>jeunese is useless
>jeunese is just a shitty version of Kevin now
I dont understand why people are saying roina is kill. It makes no sense
So her %hp got nerfed. Big deal. She's an attacker so she only really needs that % to proc once since she'll already be doing massive damage to whoever she's in front of. And if she has to ram through them again then the %hp literally wont even matter since the opponent will be at such low health anyway.
The only thing holding roina back is the lack of an EE. Not %damage being nerfed.
>The only thing holding roina back is the lack of an EE
The only thing holding Roina back is shes a selfish attacker which makes her fucking useless.
Hell the AI changes mean shes penetrating the GK less anyway
There's only three legendaries there and only one is mandatory.
Khirel could be replaced with Elise which would sacrifice damage a bit, but still make it possible to clear. Beth is a bit harder to replace, I think a WoM Milky could replace her but that might result in not having enough AB when reaching front, despite the Cynthia AS debuff and Milky's AS buff.
WE OWARI NO SERAPH NOW
HERE'S THE DARK/REASON EE YOU ASKED FOR
What the hell happened to the original EE
Adding a bunch of black lines with faces on them in the background =/= effort, but I'll admit, it's far better than most of his other artworks.
Its silk's caretaker
He disappeared because he was looking for a way to cure silk of her dark powers and he ended up absorbing them and becoming a master or them greater than even the likes of kaidomaru.
Im glad they're finally going to be back together again. I expect a pregnant silk skin very soon.
>d-drawing more stuff doesn't mean that he put more effort into it!
Do you not see how retarded your post is? Drawing more things objectively takes more work than drawing less.
Nice logic you got there.
Here, add a bunch of brushes and shit and call it a quality drawing who took you a lot of effort.
quality > quantity
except for breasts
>drawing more things objectively takes more work than drawing less
>Quality > quantity except for breasts
Enjoy your boner faggots.
Are we sure this is a boy? The chest looks kind of round and the face is kind of androgynous
as is the case with all elves ever
Could just be a tomboy trying to pretend they're male
If so, I'm going to have to become a WW main.
Where the fuck is the Snowball EE?
we'll get a beelze/littre transfer thing in this patch, r-right?
please BB, I want my team to pass 12k TA, I'd pay 100 d-stones for it
how can you have such shit taste?
>thinking you have good taste
I wish I could be that delusional
how would it be bad? it wouldn't be as easy to switch from a FOTM to another for non whales since it'd cost a lot of d-stones and probably crystals too
I like both but I hate the people that like lolis because they're all obnoxious and hate anything that's not loli. It really gives the rest of the people who like lolis a bad rap.
>Kei is the arrogant, narcissistic captain of the Rescuers. He enjoys poking around, looking for trouble. He is hated by both the Knights and the Guardians.
Literally us, intelligent, nihilistic and with a wicked sense of humour.
>Kei edges Isillia
Can you stop this Isillia is a boy meme?
They've already moved on. Here's the chat when it came up about A4164 and Kirkius.
Fast climbing CoD and PVP out of nowhere.
raigyo: this guy is well known on 4chan
Trelve: this a cheater?
Blackfox763: apparently yeah O.o
raigyo: no one really can say for sure
Yayificationsxd: Maybe he's just a big baller shot caller
raigyo: hes supporting com2us by himself
BlissfulElin: a6012 is moby dick the legendary whale Kappa
>shitposters busy with twitch chat
>thread starts to die
i'm growing more inclined to believe it really is 3 people and the OP posting in these threads
Just gotta hold on to her and pray she gets the William treatment someday.
>tfw mini celebrity in le chinz,
>tfw can't shipost using my real twitch account
At least I can shitpost using xxxzenchixxx. I know who zenchi is, I know how he thinks, I AM ZENCHI.
>How do we fix Mamuru?
I'll tell you how. You do a clean sweep. Remove everyone who doesn't reach daily accumulative, which is a lot of your members actually. Remove inactives. Recruit fresh, active members. Even if Bronzelord's leader is kill, the club as a whole is still active as fuck.
>see lolibutts/bronzelords tag
>win the tourney
>doesn't tell anyone
Fruity its been 22d, you can login now for the return bonus!
How are your character skins coming along, drawfags?
Hey, as long as I start with the ball and she doesn't get lightly tapped on the ass and become completely useless before she gets a chance to attack everything works out fine!
For some reason people decided to tune in to ZeroKuno's stream. Since it's an SS stream he probably only normally gets 1-5 viewers, so when people joined it was just 20-30 people mostly shitposting, streamer found it entertaining.
He might, he certainly liked the bantz and memeposting though he didn't really understand most of it. He'll probably prefer to limit his interactions with us on streams only though.
I use a few different formations and they use a fair amount of uniques to maximise score.
Due to the QS nerf, the earliest time you can theoretically take an action is 00:12 or 00:24 (00:00 would either require like 150+ AS or is just not possible). The QS nerf also fucks up the frontline, unless you use a second IC assist up top too.
So up until floor 30 or so, I use something like:
Luka IC - Yuri - Striker
QS unit - Nari IC - WoM Beth
Yuri buffs up Luka's raw pass stat to around 850, which means Luka can reach the player score required for player 3 up until floor 32. At floor 32 the player 3 score requirement is 11390 which Luka can reach (850 * 13.6 = 11560). But then you have to consider the floor which has Avnore in it (debuffs pass), floor 30 I think.
Anyway, after 30 or so I switch to:
baltheon SC - yuri - striker
QS unit - Nari IC - WoM beth
avnore ace-totem-totem-totem (teamwide)
The drawback here is that in most cases you end up finishing between 00:24 to 00:48, rather than the constant 00:24. You can only get 00:24 clears with the above setup if Balth has 40% starting AB (40% Beth active, 15%*2 Beth passive), or if Balth has 30% starting AB and somebody else has 40% starting AB, then that other unit passes to Balth which regens the remaining 10%. So yeah, in other circumstances Balth usually just gets left with 80-90% AB and it adds an extra 00:24 to your clear time, which isn't too significant, fuck restarting over and over until you start with the ball AND Balth has 30-40% AB. And the reason I use Baltheon + Avnore ace is because Baltheon ends up reaching 1250 raw pass stat, which is enough to satisfy player 3 score all the way until floor 49 (16766), 1250 * 13.6 = 17000
Floor 37 and 42 are a bit shitty because of thundersluts, I usually swap to Sammy IC mid, Beth uses active and penetrates once but doesn't penetrate through, that satisfies the player 3 score, then Sammy forward passes and it's the same as usual, ends in 1:00-3:00.
Floor 44, 46 and 47 are cancer and usually take a lot of tries, I let striker shoot first to do some damage, then Baltheon counterattacks and uses active for second shot.
Striker shoot + balth CA + balth active + striker second shot doesn't work for me on 48, so it becomes the only floor where I have to use Shu and regular backline units (shu on right, beth on right, ram avnore until dead, then baltheon active + striker active combo to OHKO).
Floor 49 I use WoM Bell. Khirel and Beth get two penetrates in at mid before Sammy forward passes (to satisfy player 2 and player 3 score).
Here's a run of it I recorded: https://vimeo.com/147740317
Floor 50 is just cancer, Jin is so shit and he can't survive 3 shots from Ravian, unless you use healing units. Commonly I just let the ball back, use Princess Meiran and stack her passive twice or thrice, use her active, use beth to penetrate out, sammy in mid active passes (other two units in mid are khirel and sage), standard active pass + shoot again to OHKO (but the past two weeks I've had some trouble doing this, I'm always 1000 or so damage off and I have no idea why).
I probably got a few things wrong, but that's pretty much it. Use: http://ssherder.com/colocalc to understand how total and player scores work.
>So up until floor 30 or so, I use something like:
>Luka IC - Yuri - Striker
>QS unit - Nari IC - WoM Beth
Meant "bell ace-totem-totem-totem (teamwide)". Bell ace and yuri totem is how Luka reaches 850 raw pass stat.
thanks for the help, I don't have beth but for a penetrator who would be better to use between Choi, Hilde and Princess Meiran? Also do you always put Elizabeth in the forward line?
Hilde since she can use WoM + two thunder pen stones + QS unit to infinite.
And yeah I put Elizabeth up top. But one cool thing you can do is put Elizabeth in back on the far left or far right, then you can have three units in the backline middle position (GK + middle placed unit + choice of left or right placed unit), could serve useful for when you want to penetrate right through the middle.
>have hypermaxed Ravian pre-nerfs
>have to struggle to get to diamond due to the fact that you have to get the ball to the front ~5-6 times to win while it only takes two shots for the other team.
>Ravian nerfs happen
>change Ravian with a hypermaxed Sharr
>change Jewnose with Luka
>Get to diamond without dropping a game due to the fact that I only need two shots now to win.
Yep, Ravian was broken guys, Sharr's fine tho.
About to blow these, please give me luck, anons
>All those useless 5* stones
I'm so sorry, literally worse then the 10 crystals.
At least I got a red reflex ;_;
it evolved.Probably the only good thing I've gotten from this event besides the gold.
Ravian was only broken when she had a team with MetaBeth and Quick Starts and all, when a team could reliably act before enemy team several times and was guaranteed to deliver the ball to frontline every time.
If you think about current meta and AI changes that happened in same patch, Ravian wouldn't be popular now anyway when lots of teams have IC passers on frontline.
>assists, leaders and defenders penetrating and shooting whenever they get the chance
>Everyone using their skills independently of the level of the skill(especially since attackers skill costed 1 full bar)
>Defenders retardness, if you didn't put an attacker, no one in your backline would try to breakthrough
You are underestimating how retarded AI was at the beginning. Zibroi was called Godbroi for a reason, all players would try to attack a GK, if both players had Zibroi, chances are that the game would end by time out.
Holy shit what a writeup. Thanks man, this should help me improve my score a bit, even though I don't have Balth.
Wondering about a few things though, is your main striker Lucid, with Sharr for WW/Light GK?
Also, why use Bell ace instead of another totem when Luka has the exact same ace?
>is your main striker Lucid, with Sharr for WW/Light GK?
Sharr. My Lucid is still only 2/5 spu.
>Also, why use Bell ace instead of another totem when Luka has the exact same ace?
I'm retarded, I never noticed Luka's ace. I was aware that every element had a unit which buffs up their own element's pass effect by 55% (Nari, Bell, Princess Meiran, Virgil and Avnore), but never noticed Luka
I fucking hate this "teamwork" system.
It's been garbage since DAY FUCKING ONE.
There's no fun in looking up a fucking google doc document in order to finish these stupid riddles in any kind of decent time. It's just a stupid chore.
And so many of these retarded "waifus" have negative responses to almost anything for seemingly no reason at all. It's aggravating and just annoying.
And it's always the same stupid broken english questions and answers, so nonsensical and meaningless.
Pretty new and looking for some advice. Basic team is pic related, but I drew up a miho, hilde, and now have a yuri sitting in scout I can afford. I guess the most pressing issue is whether to scout the yuri.
Nikita keeps giving me -1 to anything and everything I try. I just can't be assed to go look up the google docs every time... Fucking hell. I hate this shit. It's just no fun at all, I don't get what they were thinking when they made this game"""""""""play"""""""" """feature""". Oh it'll be fun it'll be like you see their personality and shit. No. You don't. It's either just "oh she's a normie and likes being happy and shit so +3's are nice and easy, cool" or "oh she's a retarded edgelord who hates having fun and people being nice, that makes sense".
You want Nera to active pass to Meiran who pens the Bell/Beth and then passes for 30% speed/attack.
This is after your IC Lia passes back to your Nera for a total of 45% team wide speed increase.
>mfw zenchi has been on 4chinz longer than most of us probably
I can understand Renee, but why Luka?
Pen. doesn't seem amazingly useful in pve.
I've been using Silla so far for the AP buffs. I thought that would be the way to go if you didn't have Balth/Renee.
It would all come really close and then it'd vary depending on the DR of the GK. You're right, it'd be more fair to say Renee, Luka and Silla are all between #2-4 after Baltheon for raw damage output. And also Luka can use SC (not saying it's the best unique for her, but just judging from raw damage perspective).
I started playing today and just got my legendary.
Is this good enough to work with or do I reroll?
If you aren't oging to whale, change your striker.
Beatrice,Sharr and Vitos are doing fine. Hiro too but he requires more investment.
If you ever manage to get William, he is top tier and Leventor is also good.
Vonchi is fine too
Guess I'll try to change her then.
She was the only 5* Striker I managed to pull (multiple times) after two days of rerolling so I just got fed up and stuck with her.
Is she bad enough that I should stick a 4* in place of her until I can find something better? I only have one 4* striker which is Blue Dragon.
no you can use her for a while and even evolve/EE her if you can't find something else in the meantime, just don't waste your littres and beelzes unless she gets buffed into being a different type of striker entirely, they're better spent on isillia and bell for now
I literally have nowhere worthwhile place to put this, QQ.
>51 dribble as it's only substat
I'm so sorry
What is the opinion on the wise anons in regards to my shit plan of a team?
How am I able to make it better without making it not dark/light?
>We are sorry to announce, but Metatron will have a change on her skill "Angel's Light II"
>Because she takes too much enemy action bar and also regenerate her team action bar, it will now steal 15% spirit bar upon receiving damage
Would you be mad?
It was the only good striker I was able to scout. I had been playing Orses striker for 2 weeks. I'll change her as soon as I find anything better within Dark range.
Vitos will do. Why is Avnore better in mid? His speed debuff totem?
Remove Yuri, get Mikael instead.
Remove Malcolm, get Jheet instead.
Remove Avnore, use Rasiel if you have her, if you don't substitute with offcolor Kiki.
Since Shura is pretty much impossible to obtain, get Luka for your last top slot since every other dark/light option completely sucks.
You'll probably want Sharr instead of Buttrice too.
reflex and speed debuff, Mikael would be good too as the other anon said as he has good totems.
Enemy would get -30% and -20% reflex, I don't think many would win in reflex against your Metatron this way
Here, I made it better for you.
Use Silla ace and assume the no player is a +160 5/5 Miho.
why even bother with a backline? its not like you will survive a shot without totems. and there is no way you are faster than an ic passer.
Even better, anon
Choi with IC, Meiran with Ancient Stormer. You gotta meme with the best memes on the market.
I currently have this team
+ Erica, Latios and an Extra Jeunese
I have Sammy and Anael on scout right now, who should I get between the two?
a proper backline also doesnt get ohko but the investment isnt really worth it when you can just play ohko by yourself and needs less resources. besides you only loose ranking points if you attack so its litterally not worth it to be devensiv.
I don't think so, they nerfed Heal milleniums ago and it has never been buffed back. She sn't bad, but you would need Silla+Luka imo to make better use of Gravity down.
>Hit decent with common shoot + gravity down
>Most of the enemy GK hp down
That's what you need to try if you want to stick to Ravian, you can't solely rely on her gravity down anymore.
So If I want to remain Dark/Light, I should aim for Vitos or Lucid for Striker?
I've only started playing 2 months and I thought I got a good Striker when I drew Ravian.
>Vitos or Lucid
either would be same seeing how every second GK in game is light
stop talking about stuff you don't understand, retard. Ravian would need 3+ shots on any GK if she crits with that setup. And that's assuming you have +15 FTS and Khirel in team.
Don't. I'm saying as someone who's sticked to Dark/Light the whole time due to Metatron + Beth start, just don't. You can't even imagine how much stronger the team is if you just go rainbow and get an actual striker that's viable like Sharr.
Worst case scenario, get Hiro, not Vitos or Lucid.
It is. Let's not take into account every particular GK, but look at it generally. Gravity's % damage goes 20->14->8->5->3
So if you deal 600 damage with every shoot, you'd need 3 shots. Meanwhile most of the other 5* strikers (if not every 5* striker) will need 1-2 shots with same setup and investment.
I think most of Hiro users switched to something else. Hiro can do fine enough.
Fuck yeah! I did it. No-legendary monoWW team.
Decide to spend 30 crystals on a whim
I used to have linmay in the place Aslan is, but I started seeing some super stacked Williams that was OHKO my BT.
I always changed Saramir/VB to put saramir in front of their attacker, and Magnus/Aslan, so that Magnus would penetrate through their totem.
Uniques used: Earth's Cry on Beatrice, Ancient Stormer on VB, Thousand Watchers on Meiran.
Aside from that, I learned tha Rudiel is strong. She works surprinsingly well at both tanking and stealing.
Only 3 uniques as I listed. Beatrice, Neraizel, Meiran, BT and VB are max superb.
Kiki, Saramir, and Silk are at 3 superb. Magnus is at 4, and Rudiel is at 2. Aslan is there just for the totems.
I don't have any right now, but she was taking from 2,2k~2,5k damage from Sharr/William shoots. She was barely surviving since she had almost 3k HP, but it was enough to get a second shot in.
>I am guessing most of those are max superb if not all and you might have unique stones on all of them.
Here's the mono ww team you're thinking of.
Good luck to you, I am gonna stop at champ now, since I was actually stuck at 2100, but then I got lucky and I got matched against thunder teams at least once per tournament which helped a fucking lot.
So has anyone noticed any recent T R E N D S.
Should I recall Kevin and replace him with Magnus? My current backline is Kevin/Kiki/Nerua/Haru with Kei as the GK
Death Queen - "Rock Spirit" - Increases the MAX HP by 4 / 8 / 12 / 16 / 20% and counterattack resistance by 4 / 8 / 12 / 16 / 20% of the Ardor players within the position
Patricia - "Ebon Stronghold" - Decreases the damage that Dark players within the position receive by 2 / 4 / 6 / 8 / 10% and also increases their MAX HP by 3 / 6 / 9 / 12 / 15%
So the possibility of them tweaking Magnus is quite high. Shitose doesn't even count as she is a selfish unit, Nerua everyone knows she buff hp/def of thunders
Ahahaha oh wow, incoming "I was only pretending :^)". I was talking with that anon about the color only totem and you come talk about the rainbow buffs that all of them obviously have.
Nerua and Death Queen still have other totems not affecting any element in particular. They have 3 totems in total. Magnus, Patricia have two. By your logic they'd change them to have 3 totems first.
No, the thing is that all of which buffs position have at least one on-color totem. Magnus has great self buff, decent position rainbow totem. My Magnus is 3 superb+st with a shitty reflex stone and he hits 1650 reflex + decent stats
Chitose has only elemental def, the rest is personal skill which is why this wouldn't happen to her in case someone try to mention her.
please refer to
>But obviously they will change his HP totem to on-color as every other character that lower dmg.
Patricia/DQ/Nerua meet that thought but Magnus/Chitose don't. That's just 3:2 so you can't say the same thing is going to happen to everyone for sure.
Chitose in particular isn't even a totem so I don't know why you're trying to find a pattern here.
chitose is selfish but i'm afraid of her more than any of the other elemental totems. i've only ran into infinite chitose once and she completely destroyed me, if you thought milky was bad imagine her with defender ai.
I believe it will get changed, honestly I wouldn't lose much because I have BT and other WW character that would benefit from this.
So I don't run monothunder as the guy believes
I don't know about how good she is, I normally see Shitose than a Chitose. She can probably hit good reflex and speed being maxed, whoever runs Light should've invested on her by now imo.
>Not him, but Magnus was released much before this elemental resist was even thing, so he is out of the loop
They had a chance to tweak Magnus back when Nerua's Knight's Oath got changed to thunder only even for Base/E if they thought Magnus's skillset was too damn good outside of the damage totem.
Changing is HP/speed totem to WW only leaves his last passive be a selfish buff which still is 'out of the loop' so he can only get better even if the original guy's right about trying to form a pattern.
even with 90% DR milky way will still take so much damage stealing from william and leventor that she'll be passive and block for the rest of the match. because of this chitose having defender ai makes her more reliable to keep stealing from their frontline after this happens
Ardor reflex, light reflex, ww steal stones. All +12 still
I don't think they will try to carbon-copy all of them. But it seems that Elemental Resist + Defensive boost to GK is a thing. And then there is Chitose, we will have to wait for EE's though, since it is when they make the biggest changes in skills.
>But it seems that Elemental Resist + Defensive boost to GK is a thing
Probably because it just feels perfectly natural for a damage reducing totem to have more utility effects. I don't think BB has some directive that says "elemental resist -> also has defensive boosts".
They're just as likely to come up with some special snowflake and end up with weird shit like Chitose who ended up being non-EE Rudiel with the damage reduction thrown in.