/dsg/ - Demon's and Dark Souls General

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1st for better than estoc

Reminder to ignore, filter, and report the shitposter that frequents this general.

Here is a list of topics he posts:

>how much he dislikes 4kings and the drawfag who is associated with them
>random fanart of specfic characters (Kalameet, gwyndolin, seath, etc)
>fanart made by Menas
>his "Husbando tier list" and specific fanart of Sif and the Everlasting Dragon from ash like.
>picture of all the bosses in DaS1 (with 4kings always blotted or outright removed). He always starts with some varient of "circle your favourite souls boss, /dsg/".
>posts that have extreme dislike towards DaS2 (have some varient of "Dasdreck and DaS2babby")
>a list for "das3 players" about how they should hate DaS2 and praise DaS1

This isn't the only general/board he visits either; he shitposts on /wowg/, /tesg/, /fog/, and on /pol/.


NOW PLEASE FILTER, REPORT, IGNORE, AND MOVE ON.

>>127898515

lads?

>>127899546
Around the 700k to 1.5mil SM range since that's typically when people get to Drangleic Castle

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>tfw dark souls will never be an anime

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>>127899392
I am glad to see that I am not the only one who is annoyed by all of the shit posting.

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>>127899880

Nice.

Who are worse?
a) Weebs
b) Furries
c) 4fags

>>127899235
>sorceries
kill yourself my anon

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>>127899915
epicnamebro

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>>127899889

>>127899778
neat, time to rev up a cosplay

So if you let Lautrec kill the Firekeeper, what other bonfires are good to kindle until you get her soul back to her? I like the one in Parish above Andre's smithy

For a quality build in DaS2, is 28/40 still a good option like DaS? It's 12 points I can shove elsewhere, trying to keep things SL150

>>127900280
40/40 due to how scaling works in DaS2.

>>127900280

40/40 or 50/50. Why 150? No reason to gimp your build.

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Beyond the gargoyle halberd what are some good weapons for +5 chaos?
(20str/16dex)

>>127900494
Heard from a friend that SL150 is the main NG level, with upgrades hits about 2M SM for PVP.

DaS2 has been in my backlog for a long while, so when SotFS I figured it was finally time to try it. I go for a Quality build for the first character every time, it's usually the most fun.

>invading in Harvest Valley/Earthen Peak
It almost feels like cheating. Even when I invaded a host with summons, the victory was really trivial to obtain.

What's your preferred area to invade /dsg/?

>>127900774
>Heard from a friend

Did he tell you how Soul Memory works? It's the main matchmaking method of DaS2.

>>127900674

Claymore is amazing
2H Zweihander for le giantdad xddd
pretty sure you can 2H the large club, which is super fun

that's all I can think of for now

>>127900774
When SotFS went on sale*

>>127900774
your friend is a retard

>>127900869
Mostly in annoyed rants, and it seems an extra complication coming from DeS and DaS. Told me try and stay around 2M for the most NG PVP.

>>127900921
Where's the 'ceiling'? More like 180/200 then?

>>127900774

Yeah that's about the arbitrary cap that was set. Staying at 150 is all well and good, but once you start running into Havel Monsters and Vengarl Idiots nobody will judge you for bumping it up a bit.

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>retard mod deleting dark souls related images
might as well make this a text board

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>>127901239

My images work all the time.

>>127900774
I stop at 150 or 200 depending on the build. You don't need any more SL really. Going max level takes a while and it is boring.

>>127901107
level doesn't matter. what matters is sm. use https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls2 to plan your build and see how far you can go with the sm you want

I want to do a faith based build

What weapons are viable in a pvp situation? I mostly want to sunbro it up or blue sentinel invade, so a couple different weapon suggestions would be fine.

I really like the dragonslayer spear aesthetic, but what weapon hits the hardest with a faith build? I know you cant enchant the dragonslayer spear.

>>127901186
He will get bored of his build before he meets the real monsters anyway. The SM problem is exaggerated except when it comes to early pvp.

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>>127900327

This might be my favourite piece of DaS fan art.

DaS1: What are weapons with good knockback on hit that can be enchanted with Hidden weapon?

>>127900861

Undead Crypt is pretty great. Giant pit for infinite HP shitters, If you're in a 2 or 3v1 you can whack the bell before the fog gate to even things up, or just have a good ol' duel in the room before that hallway.

>>127902009
probably some lightning infused heide weapon with SLB

>>127895263
>>127895360
will the females models look better on the engine you think?

>>127902012

That's true in some cases, but he's making a quality build. 40/40 lets you use damn near every weapon in the game, and powerstance a lot of them. I'd say that he could get some good mileage out of his character.

>>127902009
Defender Greatsword hits like a train if infused.

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post your drunk-pvp weapon.
it can be either the weapon you use to win in pvp even though you're drunk as fuck, or a weapon so stupid only a drunk person would use it.

So I absolutely loved Dark Souls, beat it about 3 days ago and I'm halfway through DS2. But the only thing I'm wondering is how these games are so fucking addicting. Like fuck, it's so hard to stop. too bad DS2 feels way easier, and the enemy designs feel cheaper

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>>127902843
>didn't play the best game in the series.

why would you play the shitty games first.

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>>127902804

>>127903016
I don't own a PS3 family, but I'm really interested now. Maybe if I can pick one up for $100 I'll play it

>>127901765
>Going max level takes a while and it is boring.
>boring
The moment I started filling all my slots with ultra weapons and made use of dual wield/powerstance I had the most fun in the whole series.
This shit isn't really viable until you go past SL350.
Leveling up gives you a constant feed of new tactics to play with.
SL150 just consists of robflynn speed weapon shittery.

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le 70 second post time

>making people eat shit as mirror invader
truly the best feel

Are there any particular soul memories where I can actually invade people as a blue sentinel?

So player attacks in Dark Souls 3 have perfect tracking?

What's a good SM for maximum midgame coop? Got just over 100k and already at Iron Keep/Tseldora

>>127903564
Did any of this actually happen, I've been coming to /dsg/ for a little over 2 years now and I never seen this, or any fallout from it except from one menas spammer who may or may not be menas but spams his art all the same.

>>127903817
Don't reply to him.

>>127903817
Hide and report.

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>tfw yaoi shitposters are fucking up my dark souls threads.

fuck this shit im going to reddit

Man, can you think of anything more pathetic than posting the same 5 things over and over again on every thread ever? How much of a fucking waste of human resource do you have to be to keep something like that up? Think of all the things on this earth that you could be doing instead. I mean, we probably shouldn't pay attention to anyone who does that, but goddamn, at a certain point wouldn't you just want to eat a gun because this is all you've ever done with your life?

Good thing there's nobody that does that here.

>>127904001
Tss, here is a secret.
He's using bots.

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>>127903479
no

>>127904001
It's even more pathetic when you realize that this isn't the only general he shitposts in.

>>127904002
According to who, besides your own autistic shitposting.

>>127903394

I dunno man, I'm at SL 150 I've fought a fairly large variety of builds in the BoB arena. I've been using Pursuer's UGS and fucking shit up pretty consistently.

>>127903016
>why would you play the shitty games first.
always save the best for last. once you've eaten the steak, salad seems like a travesty

>>127904272

He replies manually too tho so it's hilarious how he gets mad.

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Any of you anons who could be so kind helping me trade down onion bro set that I farmed on my 1.1M char to my Siegmeyer character at 412K SM?

>>127904358
>eating the Salad first

Man, do you even into gastronomy?

>>127898880
>stops copies me
wtf

>>127904470
>eating salad
it's like you actually CARE about your health, wtf

>>127899914
>not Kaathe

no dude trust me, I know oolacile totally went to shit cause of me, and then new londo totally went to shit because of me, but trust me my dude, you should totally side with me.

>>127902242
sauce?

>>127904709
>liking the feeling of having energy
>liking not being sick all the time
>liking not feeling like I'm 15 years older than I actually em
>liking looking good

THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN

>>127904495

Pic is a redraw of a frame from Metalokalypse, talking character (lead guitar) has a Norweigian accent or some shit and is an asshole to his bandmate who does the backing guitar in the band.

>>127904862
It's official art, so the artbook

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>>127904495
Haven't seen Metalocalypse? Basically its two fellows with a heavy Scandinavian accents that cannot into English very well, and the Four Kings look like they're from Scandinavian metal band.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7lBigDZVe0

J U S T

>>127904982
thats not on the artbooks i downloaded

>>127904914
>eat salad that have almost no calories or anything, basically pure water
>feel energy
wtf

>>127898880
>>127904972
>>127905029

season 5 when

>>127905032
Nice source you got there, go back to spamming since its the only thing your krokodil brain can manage to do. Hopefully it'll kill you and we'll know when we can have a /dsg/ without shit.

>>127905029
i've seen some clips but i haven't followed it
>>127904972
>lead guitar is annoyed the backing "copies" him
lol
the faces are really similar too
>>127904741
does anyone ever say that kaathe told the oolacilians to dig up manus?
and new londo didn't directly go to shit, after they tried to take over they were thwarted and then flooded

>>127900774
Start as Knight.
40/40
As much Vigor as you feel comfy with (I stick at 30)
Enough Adapt to get 99 Agility
20 End
Dump the rest in Vitality to be wear any armour or wield any weapon.
Or, get Vitality to 14, get a ring called Flynn's Ring for free 50 damage and get 110 agility. Depends if you want to be a walking tank or cloth-wearing roller.

>>127905121
I was speaking more on the 'caring about being healthy' subject bruh. the salad, which is mostly water and plant fiber, help your GI tract by pushing the steak you just ate through properly.

What's the matter junior? Don't you like your veggies? Gotta problem with pan seared asparagas with herbs and olive oil, or squash with parmesan and cracked pepper?

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>>127905121
I don't know then, all I know is it's not fanart

Does channeler's trident as an invader buff the host's enemies or does it purely only work as a buff alies function?

I cannot into a genuine build in DaS2, its all the same variation of the same build with the only variables being weapon and Flynn/non-Flynn

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>>127905496
where did you downloaded these?
my concept art are just pictures like pic related, nothing hd

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>playing DaSII for the first time
>I guess my quest is to try and not be undead
>so I need souls apparently
>don't know who's souls other than some people called "the old ones"
>no one's told me where I might find these old ones, who they were, or how they're supposed to help me reverse the curse of the undead
>no idea where to go, just kind of try and figure out where I'm supposed to go
>eventually get to sinner's rise
>kill some random guy called the lost sinner, he's a pretty underwhelming boss given he's just a guy with a sword, way easier than the shitty boss fight with the 3 ruin sentinels or the pursurer
>GREAT SOUL EMBRACED
>what
>go lit a bonfire
>PRIMEVAL BONFIRE LIT
>level up lady says "you have the soul of an old one, not something many undead can claim"

okay honestly what the fuck. Am I just stupid for not understanding what's going on and who anyone is or what the locations are or something? Because I have no idea why I'm doing anything I'm doing.

In Dark Souls the best weapon ascension is lightning right?

Is there an actual strategy to Demon of Song or do I have to just stand in front of him when his face is exposed and he is doing his arm swipes and stuff and hope to hell I get lucky with roll iframes?

>>127905382
Hawkeye and chester both mention oolacile being persuaded into disturbing his grave by "a toothy serpent" and I'm assuming it wasn't frampt.

>>127905904
Try standing to the side, bait him into using attacks and dart in?

>>127905619
>the curse of being a SL150 shitter

>>127905847
Dark Souls 2 does a lot of things as thought it was made by people who knew of Dark Souls only from internet memes, "Its really hard and there is deep lore and praise the sun" seems to be the only things they really knew about the first game and even then not how to implement those things well.

>>127905904
Stand until he opens his face, then backpedal while he's smacking. On his last smack, roll in and hit his face a couple times. Repeat.

>>127905847
You're not stupid for not understanding what's going on. It's not supposed to be straightforward. You are stupid for assuming it'd be straightforward, tho.

>>127905994
>I'm assuming it wasn't frampt.
why. and even if it is not, there are at least 10 "toothy serpents", you just only talk to 2 of them.

So I hear that joining the Coveneant of Champions in DaS2 no makes enemies spawn an unlimited number of times, is this only in the Scholar of First Sin edition or on the PS3 / 360 version too?

>>127905847
welcome to ds2.

>>127906087
It was straightforward in dark souls 1 though.

"this is nito, gwyn, witch of izalith, and the furtive pygmy, this is what they do, war with dragons, age of fire, first flame dying out, undead curse, prophecy as told by oscar, frampt tells you what you need to do and why."

In this game all I got was a really long cutscene about how bad it is to be undead.

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>>127905672

Not him, but From likes to release only some of the concept art digitally as promotion.

>>127905847
The 'plot' seems to assume that you've played DaS. If you did, you'll quickly realize that the first half of DS2 = 2nd half of DaS.

>>127906538
DS1 is about setting up the world
DS2 is about your character dealing with the world after it has already been established

>>127906770
By nothing you mean everything right?
Traitor = confirmed
No legs = confirmed
Blind = confirmed
Evil science bullshit = confirmed
Kidnapping = confirmed
Retard who breaks his own immortality crystal = confirmed
Bitch ass pussy = confirmed
Seath a bitch who did everything wrong

>>127907030
He also became a spider. Spiders are absolutely wrong. So wrong.

>>127906538
DS2 is about your character going to cure his undeadedness and then accidentally becoming king. It's designed to only make sense if you have spent at least 10 hours watching Vaatividya, The game is quite a lot worse than DS1, so just go into the game with your expectations adjusted accordingly and try to have a good time.

>>127906682
>after it has already been established
But absolutely nothing has already been established.
You're dropped in without context or a meaningful introduction.

If you mean DaS1 establishes things for DaS2, you and I clearly disagree in a lot more than just this, and there's no way I'll be able to fit both how wrong you are and how much I hate you within the character limit.

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Post your favourite fashion by other people

>>127907380
>But absolutely nothing has already been established.
Literally everything you would need to know was established in 1.

But hey you are just a retard out to bitch for the sake of bitching so who cares, retards have been wrong on the internet before and will be wrong on the internet in the future.

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>>127906613
>064.jpg
where can i download it

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>>127907505
Holy shit it's been so long since I last saw this picture.

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>>127907670

Nowhere yet because I'm still working on it. Here's an older scan of the Japanese edition: http://www.mediafire.com/download/fl31fm97s731kma/Dark_Souls_Design_Works.zip The scan quality is pretty bad though.

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>>127907540


I dont like to think too much about das1 lore and how characters are connected becuz it's a lot easier to just summerise what's going on with das3's premise and the whole balance being broken = first flame dying = world reverting to lifeless and deathless etc.

if das3 isnt about the dark lord blocking out light then colour me surprised

p.s. das2 is non-canon except for aldia and new ending.

>>127907746

Recent picture but the outfit is by a guy who's not been online for over half a year and a personal friend of mine. I renamed the character I made to copy his items as his name.

>>127907902

Oh and that scan is missing some pages. I don't know if they forgot to scan them or what.

>>127907902
rip

fucking hell, fume knight is raping me

>>127908146
>p.s. das2 is non-canon except for aldia and new ending.
As I said retard wrong on the internet.

>>127908296

Literally designed to be a throw away title with many forgotten lore tidbits even stuff created for the game that wasn't in DaS1.

>>127907273
In DS2, sometimes the NPCs give up trying to provide exposition and simply ask the player to fill in the blanks themselves

Firekeeper in opening cutscene
>You'll find yourself at its decrepit gate...
>Without knowing why, lol.

Emerald Herald
>Are you...the next Monarch?
>Or merely the pawn of fate?
>I dunno, just take this and go kill stuff...

>You, who link the fire, you, who bear the curse…
>Once the fire is linked, souls will flourish anew, and NG+ will happen.
>It is your choice…To embrace, or renounce this…
>Think up your own head-canon ending...

Aldia
>Heheh, I believe we've been acquainted.
>Young Hollow, conqueror of fear.
>What drives you so, to overcome this supposed curse?
>Can you plz come up with your own motivation?

>I lost everything, but remained here, patiently.
>The throne will certainly receive you.
>But the question remains…
>What do you want, truly?
>Light? Dark? Or something else entirely…
>We have a new ending scene, so you can simply expand your head canon. This shouldn't be hard.

>>127908146
Im still disappointing that DaS2 didnt take place in the age of dark, which was the inevitable outcome of DaS1, and then proceeded to ruin DaS1's lore by introducing a concept of cycles which means that everything in DaS1 was meaningless anyway.

I hate reading /dsg/ because everyone thinks i'm a shitter for liking all 3 games pretty much equally

>>127908860

DaS3 will probably take place in the age of the dark. Also don't worry about DaS2, it will be hugely forgotten and referenced through returning items and spells without acknowledging any plot change.

Embers instead of humanity is a good subversion.

>>127908353
So then logically speaking everything not stated to be false in DS3 would be true.
And color me impressed if the entirety of DS3 is dedicated to decanonizing a supposedly "throw away title"

That's a really nice corner you backed yourself into, but I'm sure you'll just go with some retarded "IF IT'S NOT IN 3 ITS NOT CANON" approach wile ignoring everything about 1 thats not going to be in 3.
Again you are a retard and you are wrong, but whatever helps you sleep at night

>>127908423
A rhetorical question is a question that you ask without expecting an answer. The question might be one that does not have an answer. It might also be one that has an obvious answer but you have asked the question to make a point, to persuade or for literary effect.
Are you this dumb or just pretending?

You are given specific goals
>Go meet the king
>try to go to the king
>Seek greater souls
>You get the greater souls
>King aint at the castle
>Go the the crypt to meet the king
>King's hollow
>Take the ring and go to aldias keep
>Take the ashen mist heart and go to the memories
>GJ you have the giants kinship go sit on the throne
Your goals are pretty explicitly stated throughout the game, the DLC is the least connected and you have the least reason for doing them but even then Vendric tells you to do that shit because
>seek adversity
>seek strength
>the rest will follow

>>127908146
DaS2 is basically fan-fiction. Aldia and the new ending might be higher quality fan-fiction, but it's still fan-fiction.

>>127908860
I think DaS2 IS the age of dark(man). In DaS, the presence of gods is prevalent and you could physically stab them.

Yet in DaS2, you only see kings and lords at most.

>>127909038
I hate reading /dsg/ because most people are blindly rude and resort to shitflinging as a means of getting a point across. You're a cool guy, anon, try to pretend these faggots don't exist.
DaS2 is bad though.

>>127909427
I respect your opinion even if I disagree with you

I played DS2 first so that's probably why I like it as much as the other 2

I'm playing SotFS now.
Is there any order I should do the DLC in?

>>127909075
See the problem with DaS2's story is that the goalpost moves the entire game so you never really feel any accomplishment or closure when its finally done. DaS1 moves the goalpost once, first it tells you to ring the bells of awakening, and then you are told that you need to defeat Gwyn, you are told to get the lordvessel / lord souls too, but its clearly stated that these are so that you can get to gwyn.

If DaS2 had simply told you outright once you found the king what your actual goal was from there, it would have worked a lot better, but the final result feels more like just going up to random people and doing what they say for the sake of doing it rather than working towards an overall goal.

I doubt DaS3 will bother decanonizing any of DaS2, it will probably just do the same thing that DaS2 did to DaS1 and just ignore it and it's themes entirely and just do something completely different, though since it's Miyazaki directing again he throw in a lot of DaS1 stuff for consistency. Really I don't care as long as the animations and overally speed go back to DaS1 levels (or maybe BB levels), as the floatyness and slow healing of DaS2 where pretty frustrating.

>>127909697
Release
Sunken (after rotten)-> Iron (after old iron king)->Ivory (Shrine of winter)
Don't start doing them until you have the ashen mist heart or at least have made it all the way to castle drangleic though, they are not meant for early/midgame characters

>>127909697
Release order. So Sunken > Old Iron > Ivory

>>127909075
>So then logically speaking everything not stated to be false in DS3 would be true.
>And color me impressed if the entirety of DS3 is dedicated to decanonizing a supposedly "throw away title"

>That's a really nice corner you backed yourself into, but I'm sure you'll just go with some retarded "IF IT'S NOT IN 3 ITS NOT CANON" approach wile ignoring everything about 1 thats not going to be in 3.
>Again you are a retard and you are wrong, but whatever helps you sleep at night

>Non-Big M games
>canon

>>127909367
It's the same in both games, you fight the owners of the lord souls, and then the Dark Soul at the end (well, it was the DLC in DaS1, but whatever), DaS2 really just doesnt care about the whole age of dark / age of light thing, since it seems to imply that they just sorta switch back and forth all the time so it doesnt really matter.

>>127909942
I just want to know where they got their scuba gear.

>>127909828
>See the problem with DaS2's story is that the goalpost moves the entire game so you never really feel any accomplishment or closure when its finally done. DaS1 moves the goalpost once, first it tells you to ring the bells of awakening, and then you are told that you need to defeat Gwyn, you are told to get the lordvessel / lord souls too, but its clearly stated that these are so that you can get to gwyn.
Which is the same in 2
You are given 2 total goals, find the king and after that fails take the throne. The 4 great souls are clearly stated that they are needed for getting to the king and the ashen mist heart is clearly stated to be needed for sitting at the throne.

>If DaS2 had simply told you outright once you found the king what your actual goal was from there, it would have worked a lot better, but the final result feels more like just going up to random people and doing what they say for the sake of doing it rather than working towards an overall goal.
Again you are flat out wrong, you are told that after meeting the king your goal is to sit on the throne but you can't do that until you go past aldias keep and get the giants kinship.

> he throw in a lot of DaS1 stuff for consistency
By that you mean he will throw in a lot of stuff because he like reusing his and other peoples ideas?
Half of the core mechanics of DS1 are ripped straight from DeS and make little sense in the new world
>souls
>fog covering the rest of the world
>miracles vs sorceries
>hollowing and undead characters dying permanently in general
DS3 will reference DS1 thats for sure, but its not for the reasons you would think

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>>127910424

Boutta start up DS1 PPTD. Never actually ever got to do the DLC stuff and only fully beat the game once. I'm hype. OFC starting as Pyro or deprived since no soul vessels

>>127910548
tbf the 4kings shitposter often posts in this thread against him self saying "watch this get deleted by the nazi mods who hate 4kings" and then deletes his own post. Wouldn't put it past him

What weapon should I enchant on my sorcerer senpais

>>127910829
Can't go wrong with a trusty longsword

I'm a bit saturated of the townshit meta, trying to spice things up with random invasions.
Been doing the royal forest with a fairly unoptimized hybrid SL70 build using half upgraded equipment, but I'm still winning by a landslide most of the time and this isn't fun for anyone involved.
How do I spice things up?

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>>127910727

That's why I'm not him family. I msg'd menas on devart recently about it because I was concerned.

>>127910959
Cosplay as one of the dickstab forest npcs and wait for invaders. Then backstab them as they figure out where you are

>>127910959

High level souls pvp has always been bad to be honest. Just do invasion PVP like chameleon fall control catacombs, karma justice ascended pyromancy flame Parish or greatbow Upper Blighttown.

>>127903445
>tfw feel bad mirror knighting

especially when it's the same guy over and over again and he clearly just wants to get the boss done

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FUCK
HEXERS
FUCK YOUR LAGGY RETARDED HITBOX SPELLS SOMEHOW HITTING ME ACROSS THE GLOBE
FUCK YOU GO FUCKING DIE

>>127910980
I meant he could be menas and act liek he isn't. It's unlikely, and I don't mean to shit on menas, but idk man. 4shitposter is a strange guy

>>127911148
Don't, they can always burn an effigy to get rid of you

>>127911214

This guy is obsessed with e-celebs so I doubt he's one of the artists at all.
Could be the guy who's false flagging implying it's Menas anyway.

>>127911180
Dark Transgressor's Leather Shield my main man. It blocks 100% Dark Damage

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someone call the /fa/shion police, im ruining moods AND fashion

>>127905847
plays game 2 of a series and understands nothing
gosh I wonder why the intro from ds 1 provides info to play ds 2 without problems

>>127907174
wants to reincarnate
fuug I am spider now
thats what you get for experimenting bad Karma!

>>127908860
the only important thing ds 1 are
the flame needs fuel
you are nothing special
manus died

>>127909118
the great denial fags are at it again

>>127909367
there are no gods either DS1 stop pulling stuff out of your ass they are jus powerfull beings and nothing else
>>127909697
yes and vendrick tells you it
>>127909828
in ds 1 also a random guy tells you to ring the bells and after a retarded snake tells you get the vessel and fill it with powerful souls
wow that is really better!

so you need straight answers in your game then stop playing dark souls since they don´t give straight answers and most is made up fan shit or worship vaati he seems the right guy for you

and rest of your written stuff is your typical it is not like 1 so it is bad shit

>>127910134
and neither ds 1 cares about dark and light it is only the snakes which were pretty much thrown away in the endings

>>127911529

Man Eaters dude.

Is there anything the Bastard Sword does better than the Claymore?

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I want to BREED her

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>>127910980
post rare demons souls fanart
(they are mocking him for using the soul brandt)

>>127911690
Hipster points-

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>>127911720

I've been looking for part 3 onwards of this. I have part 2 and will post it.

>>127911597

jfc the aliasing

>>127911720
Shame Selen isn't actually that cute

>>127911690

Damage.

>>127911702
But you'll be a living one and not a dead one

>>127911605
>there are no gods either
Literally referred to as gods, I hope your not applying some "well they are not the christian/norse/india/whatever gods so they are not gods!"
The game canon considers them gods and a part of the plot is how they are not actually that different for everyone else, it makes them shit tier gods in the grand scheme of all gods in all fiction, but they are still gods.

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>>127911690

Not the Flamberge, Serpent Sword or Obisidian GOATsword/10.

Dude they're humanoid and as much as an animal as the typical devils you see in fiction. They have opposable thumbs dude.

Also tfw Manus is literally siginified by his giant hand because humans are defined by their different hands.

>>127910134
>>127909828
Vanilla DaS2 seems to be about the undead curse cycles repeating but the additions to SotFS made it so that it's about breaking the cycle. Somehow collecting 4 crowns makes one immune to the curse.

From what we know, DaS3 seems to be about the return dragons and arch trees, the age of ancients, the sun bleeding out, etc. If that's really the case, then it's already a reference to the actions of aldia and that one Cursed Undead that went with the alternate SotFS ending.

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>>127911691
Hide abominations threads
Ignore half-breed posts
Do not reply to Priscilla-apologists

>>127907540
>everything you would need to know was established in 1

who are these old ones that I'm killing and why do I even need to kill them? Apparently the king is supposed to help me cure my undeath or something, but what the hell do these souls have to do with the king? I mean fuck you at least got backstory on the souls used to fill the lordvessal and who they were and stuff. And it helped you figure out where you would go to find them, "Oh the gravelord, I probably need to go through the catacombs with all the spooky skellys. kings of new londo, go to new londo. Witch of Izalith, probably near the daughters of chaos. Seath the scaleless, he was gwyn's confidant so is probably around anor londo, and bonfire lady there tells me he's in the duke's archives."

In DS2 all I've done is wonder around and go "oh I killed someone important that helps me in some way I guess?"

Dark Souls 1, best miracles for a Paladin build?

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>>127911881
dont have it but already saw it, he says the game is easy and get rekt by vanguard. i didnt saved because i thought it was meh.

>>127912180
Do you have a problem with completely shutting down hexes with just 2000 souls or something?

>>127912104
>cursed undead
I still can't take someone who can't be arsed with even touching the game seriously on lore.

>>127912215
>who are these old ones
Beings with old souls.
>why do I even need to kill them?
To get their souls to get past shrine of winter.
>Apparently the king is supposed to help me cure my undeath or something
>or something
You can try to make it worse all you want, it just makes you look like that much more of a retard.
>but what the hell do these souls have to do with the king?
The king killed the previous 4 dudes who had those souls. Again you don't NEED the 4 great souls in fact you don't NEED a single great soul to get to the king, they just help you.


>what are these bells and why am I ringing them
>who am I awakening I'm already up what the fuck?
>I'm going to anor londo to cure my undeath or something?
>Now I'm off to fill the bowl with souls or something?

You are trying your hardest to make DS2 out to be worse and DS1 out to be better and thats why nobody cares about your opinion, you are quite literally ignoring the things that are flat out told to you for the sake of bitching about them.

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>>127912178

>twop into dark hand r2
I have discovered the holy grail of fucking with newbies.

>>127912605
>To get their souls to get past shrine of winter
Who even tells you that, did I miss something?

Also you mean I'm killing some of the most powerful beings to get past a gate that has a small pile of rubble blocking it?

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>>127912740
Destroy fluffy
Immolate fluffy
Remove fluffy

God I wish I could have aggro'd her on the spot instead of waiting on the host.

>>127912628
Then don't infuse it. It's still good against hexes. Seems pretty asinine to get so invested in four simple letters added to text

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>>127912628

What the Hell are you talking about sperg?

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>>127912916

>>127912909
>Who even tells you that
The shrine of winter.

Your telling me Havel was locked up behind a flimsy wooden door?
Your memes are weak and worn out.

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I don't want to play this game anymore!

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>Get my first blue invasion
>Guy uses a giant tree seed and hides
>It's the area full of ghost enemies you can't lock onto in NG+

What a faggot.

>>127912628
Waitaminute
Did you just admit to the Dark Chasm being a reference to the best kings?

Well damn means its about time you stop using that one pasta about how there is no reference to them in DS2 then buddy.

>>127913365

?

Did Magic Magic Shield make u become autistic?

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I did it!

>>127913760
So you admit its related?
Damn nigga all that effort wasted on that pasta, what a shame

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>>127913760

How long ago was that? 2014?

Also it's a 4kings reference... baka...

what the hell happened with this genereal
fuck this place

Just hit a wall with my Caestus champion build. Can't seem to beat The Duke's Dear Freja. SL is about 90. Any advice?

>>127913760
Did people stop using lightning spears because DSP called it his "Dick Lightning"?

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>>127914058

Your favourite furry Dark Souls artist #1
Your favourite furry Dark Souls artist #2
Your favourite furry Dark Souls artist #3

>>127914026
>Any advice?
Skip it and come back later if completion is that hard?
If you are not having trouble with the run up to freja then just stay at medium range, bait the beam attack and go beat on the other face

Also depending on your int/faith feel free to buff both of your cestuses/cesti/whatever, don't even need an upgraded catalyst

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>>127914245

Pls submit proofs that DTLS has anything to do with Manus. Dark Chasm of the Old has a similar boss (Darklurker) to the original Kings Field Seath and also looks like one of the 4 kings in design.

I only recall Manus being referenced in regards to the 4 daughters he has.

>>127914026
Did you try baiting it into shooting the laser, run to the opposite head and punch its stupid face?

>>127914458
>>127914781
Never mind, I'm retarded. I didn't realize that thing had two faces.

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>>127914805

Nice not in-game lore.
2nd refers to the daughters by the way.

4 kings is referenced in-game by Old Iron King by the way, Kaathe's equal is Smelter Demon. The city is submerged in the lava :)
DaS2 lmao

>>127914957
That's my typical strategy against it with most weapons, just run out further than it's legs and it'll probably fire the laser. Just run under the legs to the opposite head as soon as it starts firing.

>>127915146
>she

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Why does everybody hide when you invade them as a fucking blue phantom?

>>127913078
>You're telling me Havel was locked up behind a flimsy wooden door

No, I would assume he's there of his own volition given that even if you open the door he still stays there.

And Havel is a minor character, not a major point in the games progression.

Is criticizing DS2 a meme now?

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>Dark Souls babbies don't know what a quality build is
>Or what a quality game is

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>>127915390
>>127915390


?

Also a literal king. They made Seath have his own Paledrake soul and Freja soul because DaS2 devs are retarded.

p.s. this post was ready in advance.

>>127915443
>hide
They are sitting at a bonfire trying to invade, getting to you would just mean a longer trip to get their souls back if you somehow win
There is quite literally 0 reason to look for an invading blue or to try and progress in general

>>127915390
So you admit defeat then. Go back to your life of posting the same shit over and over again

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>watch friend play
>about 250 SL
>20 VIG, 20 END, 50 ADP and 99 INT
>his MLGS does barely any damage
>has to cheese most enemies with spells from a distance
>complains that he's getting 2-shot by people in NG++
>tell him to take some levels out of INT and dump them into hp and endurance
>says he won't do that cause it's capped at 20 anyway

>>127915510
>I would assume he's there of his own volition given that even if you open the door he still stays there.
>Locked away
Keep at it anon I'm sure someone will care. But whatever you ran out of what could be at best be considered retarded and empty points born from ignorance a while ago and are just on to shitposting
So just get your last word in, I know it matters a lot to you

>>127915667
HP is for shitters

>>127915581
>Claims they are trying to PVP
>But that they don't want to PVP
What?

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>full havel
>greatshield
>turtles
>he still dies
just remove the rock neme armor set from Ds3 fromshit, it only encourages shitters to play

bosses that sucked ass in Des;
1-1, 2-1, 2-3, 3-1, 3-3, 4-1, 4-2, 4-3, 5-1, 5-2

even 5-3 as well, at least gameplay wise
take off those nostalgia goggles

>>127915757

I'm done anyway, just funny to own you and make you use your script again.

Enjoy your 4 kings references in DaS2.

>>127915581
>>127915443
In one of the rare instances I got to be a blue phantom, the person was in Shulva. Not hiding, not unreachable, and I destroyed him with my superior Claymore skills. I think they were farming Ascetics

>>127915793
Why would they run to you?
If you invade a sinner then that means the reason he is in the area is because he is trying to invade someone else, and you usually do that from a bonfire
Just go to the bonfire and fight them, that's the norm for invading and getting invaded as a blue. Ff they were scared of you and hiding they would just alt+f4 out of the game.

>>127915837
>Hating on Old Monk
What, did someone break all your gear?

>>127915993
>Being a sinner means you spend all your time invading
???
Do you know how "sin" works? You accumulate it from killing NPCs, as well. So if you finish NG by clearing the NPCs for their gear before going to NG+, you are most likely a sinner and can be invaded by blues.

>>127915991
Owned idiot

>>127916017
nah, i was playing offline to manipulate world tendency

>>127915779
Yeah I don't really know what you're getting at, does someone mention him being locked away as in he was imprisoned or something? Cause I just assumed he was ordered to stay their maybe as punishment and eventually went hollow.

Even then that doesn't really excuse a major point in the game being covered in rubble, there are flaws in DaS that doesn't excuse their inclusion in DaSII.

It's kind of weird to me that you're so hell bent on assuming that I'm shitposting and really are acting smug about it so here's my last word I guess.

booby

>>127912909
>a small pile of rubble
You had to place the lord vessel in DaS1 to make some fog dissapear.
Same shit. At least DaS2 is cheeky about its tropes

>>127916135
Yeah and nobody invades before their build is done
And very very very very very few people try to play the game normally after finishing a PvP build.

What the fuck do I do against an estoc turtling ninja-flipping havelmom?

>>127916140
You can't prove them wrong either, enjoy being violated by 4Dicks :^)

>>127916390
So what you're saying is;
Sinner creates a build for PVP so doesn't want to play the game normally.
Sinner tries to invade because he wants to PVP.
Sinner doesn't want to PVP when he gets invaded.

Is that what you're saying? Because it makes no sense.

>>127916303
>does someone mention him being locked away as in he was imprisoned or something?
Yes because that is literally what that means.

Holy shit I get why you are so upset about this, you actually flat out don't understand english so you got confused by all the "complicated" words in DS2!

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i cant believe i still fall for this goddamn horse hack

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>>127916430
>>127916302
does this confirm that the 4kings guy is REAL and not a bot

he's been shitposting in this general literally everyday for years

>>127916574
Try tongue but hole

>>127916536
>Sinner creates a build for PVP so doesn't want to play the game normally.
Basically yeah
The people with Sin are mostly twinks, and they have beaten most of the game already to get gear
People who bridgeduel don't eve get sin for it.

I'm sorry that you were wrong about how people behave in the game but it aint gonna change facts, if you invade as a blue expect to have to run to the bonfire and fight the dude there, that's what happens 99% of the time, nobody is going to come looking for you.

>>127916404
>das pvp
it's always don't swing, go for backstabs
nothing more to it

>>127916615

He idles in this thread but it's mostly either copy pasta he made for himself or script.

But most important part is that he actually posts and gets angry about 4 kings.

21:11 - [your dad]: i wonder
21:11 - [your dad]: who that person he hates is
21:11 - Segandrew: Me too
21:11 - [your dad]: cuz like
21:11 - [your dad]: if it's an artist
21:11 - [your dad]: who drawn 4 kings
21:11 - [your dad]: and he's still shit posting about it 2 years on
21:12 - [your dad]: how the fuck didnt i hear about this sooner
21:12 - Segandrew: because i thought [yer ma] was the most autistic human known to man
21:12 - Segandrew: I was wrong

>>127916756
I am so bad at backstabs it hurts.

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>>127916561
Just because someone is behind a locked door doesn't mean that they're in a hurry to try and break out.

By "imprisoned" I mean taken there against their will and put up in chains, not just happening to be behind a locked door which isn't even locked if he chose to go up some stairs.

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>>127916708
dont give up skeleton! xDDD

>>127916404
>estoc turtling

Pyro, Shotel, Bleed or Backstabs.

>ninja-flipping

Don't chase them.

I fancy a powerstancing run

What's interesting to start with, two falchions?

>>127917198

I still find those hilarious desu.

>>127917138
Anon
"lock away or lock up to put someone in a prison, or in a hospital for mentally ill people"
You are flat out wrong. Why are you having so much trouble accepting this?

>>127916347
It's magic fog though, like it's clearly some glowy ass magic fog.

It's not glowy ass magic rubble.

Is it really cheeky? Unless someone makes reference to the fact that if only you could climb over some rocks you wouldn't have to go kill old ones then it's not really cheeky.

>>127917353
A dev orange soap in front of the rubble saying "try climbing" would have been funny

>>127917350
The whole argument was about why doesn't havel just break down the wooden door being bought up in response to why doesn't the bearer of the curse just climb over the rocks.

I mean I guess I'm wrong in the sense that yes he's behind a locked door? But he's not in any kind of prison and he could leave if he just took the stairs up.

>>127917353
>the obstacle is actually trivial but you can't get past it because videogames
>not cheeky
Are you and >>127917549 the same person?
Because both of you seem to be having a really hard time understanding that words have meaning and you can be wrong about it.
Speaking of>>127917549
There is no argument, you are griping over the rubble wall while you have no issues with anor londo literally being built on top of the abyss and someone being locked up in a place they could break out of or walk out of because cherry picking is call you can do after being blow the fuck out on everything else your retarded ass tried coming up with.

Any covenants good for PvE?

Someone wanted slutty fashion?
Brigand Armor and Balder Leggings, the leather flaps part right at the goods which are a pair of panties

>>127918008

Chaos or Dark if 2.

>>127917549
I assumed Havel was hollow, he could leave but mindlessly stays put like most characters in Dark Souls.

>>127918008
DaS1 Not really
DaS2 Company of Chumps and Abyss Covenant

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>>127917319
Yeah and get the warped sword asap for the special attack.
Next step is curved nil gs and smelter ugs.
Final step is fume ugs and smelter gh.

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>>127918008
Champions.

>>127917319
I have a lot of fun powerstancing Blue flames in pvp and pve. But it's incredibly squishy due to the stat spread.

Don't really have a win rate to boast about since i've died like 700 times since switching to it. Still, it's fun.

>>127917846
>anor londo being built on top of the abyss

wait what

>>127918278
Look at the ground there
The buildings just hit a flat black nothingness, it's not even that they are far down, you can see the hills in the distance becoming flat and then boom, blackness everywhere.

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>>127917353
>It's not glowy ass magic rubble.
It doesn't need to glow to be magic m8.
It's probably some arch tree material though;^)

If you need my input ill just butt in and say dark souls 2 somehow was made to be even more bare and convoluted than the other games. thats all. You didnt even get a good intro explaining the world and lore.

Did they put all the budget into Majula? Walking around the Lost Bastille and it looks like a PS2 game

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The ruse cruise never ends.

>>127918427
Is that actually the abyss or it just goes black because vidya gaems, I feel like if that was actually the abyss then someone would mention it since there seems to always be an NPC or two that mentions the presence of the abyss like in New Londo or Oolacile

>>127918427
how would the bat demons fly through the abyss

>>127918808
Probably just videogames, only really brought it up because people like ignoring it and pretending it never happened

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>>127918726
>use my blue eye in forest with 20 nodes
>failed to invade

I want to make a fun cheater in DaS1. When you run into a hacker when using Watchdog, do you take what they actually changed into account before deciding to do anything?

>>127918954
Through all the plot holes obviously

>>127918986

Post porn again and I'll show you.

>>127919383
If they're invading me I just kick them out.
If I'm invading them they get cursed.

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>>127919095
Keep trying, I'm getting consistent amounts of invasions at SL60.

>>127917846
Cheeky tends to imply endearing, it's not endearing when something is done straight faced. Something like >>127917524 would've been funny and at least make it a little self aware.

I don't know why you're saying I have no problem with stuff like anor londo or havel, whom I would assume just stays there because he's hollow and I have no idea what you're talking about with anor londo, unless you meant new londo in which case I thought the abyss moved in once the four kings started feeding on humanities and stuff. Oolacile being built on top of Manus' grave is kind of weird especially since there's a dungeon leading right to it.

I mean damn dude I don't know why you're bringing up all this shit from DaS1 when I say something bad about DaS2, yeah it's stupid that you can't open a door from one side that you clearly should be able to reach your hand through to open anyway which happens a lot in DaS, but I'm just saying stuff like the shrine of winter is really in your face considering it's a major progression point.

And my whole original thing I was talking about was that DaS2 doesn't do a really good job of explaining a lot, they spent a whole intro cutscene telling me about the curse of the undead that I already knew about rather than anything about the old ones or what they have to do with the king.

>>127918972
probably cause most people don't notice it.

>>127919638
>Cheeky tends to imply endearing
No it doesn't, are you ever going to stop being wrong about word definitions.
Sorry really can't be bothered with reading the rest of whatever you wrote because for like the 5th time now you started off a post by flat out being wrong about what a word means.

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>these fucking ghosts in shaded woods you can't lock onto

they had this fucking problem in DaS1 with the forest people not being able to be locked on and they patched it because a lot of people said it was fucking annoying, and then they pull the same shit in the sequel?

it's like they're aggressively trying not to learn from their past mistakes

>>127920050
You can get an item that makes them visible and normal.

>>127920050
Get the eye of the priestess or git gud

>>127920246
>the eye of the priestess makes them visible
HOLY SHIT WHAT

>>127920050
lel dastards still trying

>>127920325
Yeah, try it out for yourself

Hi /dsg/

I just killed gaping dragon, do I need to run all the way up through the depths to leave, or is there a back exit?

I fucknig hate navigating the depths

Can you really make custom NPC invaders with CE?

>>127920538
you can get into blight from there

>>127920007
cheek·y
ˈCHēkē/Submit
adjective
adjective: cheeky; comparative adjective: cheekier; superlative adjective: cheekiest
impudent or irreverent, typically in an endearing or amusing way.

>>127920538
There's a back exit. But where it leads is another thing

>>127920538
Backtrack from the arena a little back to where you met the armor merchant. Beside him is a big gate you open with the key dropped by the boss.

>>127920617
cheeky
ˈtʃiːki/Submit
adjective
impudent or irreverent, typically in an amusing way.
Nice try buddy. Feel free to stop being wrong at any time, or refuse to learn what words mean just to spite some random anon on the internet who thinks you are a drooling retard anyway

>>127920538

The Dragon dropped a key. You can use it in the Depths to get to another area. There's another way you can take but you need to walk all the way back to Firelink or Darkroot Basin.

>>127920246
it's not like they're unkillable but it's just goddamn annoying to fight them

why does the dark soul's community do this especially, I swear every time I see someone complain that capra demon is a shit fight there's five retards going "LEL GIT GUD"

>>127920784
"Git Gud" is literally the best piece of advice anyone can give regarding these games. Look further into what the phrase means instead of getting angry at your own lack of skill, and then you will achieve nirvana.

>>127920772

How does one definition for a word make another irrelevant?

>random invasion
>three man gank
>don't do anything cheap
>get my insides rubbed
>well what is it
>point down
>look skyward
>point down

Do they usually do this because they legitimately feel like they accomplished something or just to make me mad?
Because if it's the second, it's working.

>>127920784
>it's not like they're unkillable but it's just goddamn annoying to fight them
Why are you fighting them then?

>>127920784
People got tired of answering the exact same questions over and over again. So git gud was invented to stem the tide of new people trying to take the easy way out. Now git gud or die trying

>>127920923
It's okay anon you'll come around eventually or not because you are a drooling retard, but we can hope
Now then I'm off to bed you keep living in your lala land where locked up mean that someone is allowed to leave and the bricks are not cheeky, I'm sure the rest of the known universe will bend to your autism.
It won't

>>127920050
I like them as an enemy, at least in the foggy area where they're entirely skippable.

Then they moved some to the ruins and later woods making them boring and generic. Really aren't hard to kill though, learning to play unlocked will be the best thing you ever do in Souls games

>Halberd
>350 AR
>B/C Scaling
>6 Weight, 70 Durability

>Blue Knight's Halberd
>350 AR
>C/B Scaling
>12 Weight, 60 Durability

Why ever use the Blue Knight's Halberd?

>>127921163
Oh yeah also they're piss easy to parry, try it.

>>127921151
that guy you're responding to isn't even me but continue being insufferably smug I guess

>>127920784
Disregard the guys invalidating your complaints, those enemies really are bullshit and highlight DaS2's design problems.
Don't disregard their advice though, they're completely right; get good and the problems will go away.

>>127921362
I will continue being smug about not being the retard who doesn't know what "locked up" means thank you ever so much. Sweet dreams anon

>>127921219
Because the scaling favours different side weapons?

>>127921467
>shades
>bullshit
>in the game that has the fucking fire salamander
?
??
Is literally anything other than a hollow soldier bullshit for you or something buddy?

>>127921593
DEX scaling is so shit in DaS2 though, something with a B DEX scaling is going to be weaker than a B STR scaling

>>127921467
>design problem
But shaded woods is one of the highlights and people used to complain that there wasn't more of it.

in DS2, if I die alot am I fucked because of the diminishing health?
How do I overcome it, I have only few effigies left.

>>127921746
Up to the weapons, the way the letters work is 100% bullshit and just something you might have to wiki to find out but there is nothing in the game that makes STR scaling inherently better than DEX scaling.

>>127921746
Have you just noticed this meme?
From likes to put 1 good weapon in each category and make every other weapon in that category suck.

>>127921936
Have you been to Heide's yet? There's something there which will help you.

Also your health won't drop below 50% from hollowing unless you've accumulated a lot of sin by attacking NPCs and other players.

>>127921936
Ring of Life protection
Ring of Soul protection
Ring of Binding
Invade and kill people 100 times for the true fun

farming sunlight medals fucking SUCKS

>>127921936
You can lay down a summon sign. You'll get your humanity back once you fulfill your duty.

What's bad about dying is that online matchmaking is done via soul memory (total souls acquired). If you lose too much souls, you'll be lower level than invaders in your range.

Anyone able to tell me what the best straight physical spear is in SOTFS right now? My guess would be Pate's but would like to know if there's any I haven't considered.

>>127922136
What SM are you at? I was getting non-stop, instant summons at Heide's at 50k SM.

>>127922284
Estoc

>>127922353
6M

>>127922407
Oh, then yeah that must suck. I couldn't get summoned for Loyce farming at 5M.

>>127922407
Try Drangleic castle or Grand Cathedral. Players are usually wrapping up NG at that range.

Beware that some grand cathedral summons are for loyce soul farming. Host will jump ship when ivory king spawns.

>>127922375
>Estoc
>Spear
>Seems legit

>>127922727
No one really uses spears. It's either a thrusting sword for quick pokes or lance for BIG poke-poke-poke.

OK so lets assume I'm a turboshitter and I have 3m+ soul memory heading into NG+. Is it safe to assume that I'm unlikely to see many invasions? Am I also unlikely to see any jolly cooperation?

>>127922284
Pate's or Yorgh's

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>go back to DaS after a long break from souls games
>killing overleveled chuggers in the forest with a 60lvl character with ravelord sword and sub-15 poise
>coop+invasions in Anor Londo
>'Wow the game is still alive, I wonder how /dsg/ is nowadays'
>mfw

>>127922889
3m is about right for NG+

i just did a quick NG+ run and there were plenty of invasions/summons around that tier

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Name
>1 weapon
>1 ring
>1 cast
You want to see in DS3.
Go.

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He's so fucking new that even after attacking me, he still thinks I'm an NPC.

>>127921746
Yeah but dex weapons tend to be fast pokesticks.

>>127923150
Gravelord Sword (or another good-looking bone weapon, the skeleton lord scythe was ugly)

Red Tearstone Ring

Lifedrain patch

>>127921746
Not true.
Try hardcapping the stats like you're meant to.