/twg/ - Total War(hammer) General

>>127884529
1st for pontus

Eternal hostility towards Russians, Anglos and the chosen.

>>127881238
>implying they weren't professional

MELONCAT WHERE IS MY AOC FOTE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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Come back, gook!

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>>127885249

wwwDOTtwitchDOTtv/totalwarofficial

Streaming EB.

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>>127885603

>>127885875
>CA doing regular mod spotlight streams.

That's pretty neat.

>>127886149
That they're playing a RTW mod is pretty impressive

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Hey /twg/ I have completed my crusade against the filthy kebabs of Iberia.

I don't really feel like messing shit up in the mainland.

Suggestions?

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>>127885875
>These are the ancient people of Crete, the Eultheroi

>>127886318
Darren is the worst Total War player on the planet, made even worse by the fact that he's the guy who does all the official streams.

Those AoC streams gave me strategy cancer.

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>>127885987

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Should I be concerned? It's been like this the past few years and it keeps getting lower and lower.

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>>127886431

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>>127884529

>decide to try Poland-Lithuania in Empire
>KURWA KURWA
>allied to both Austria and Russia
>war with Prussia
>decide to try some Ulhans they look fun
>25 charge bonus oh boy
>charge into a unit of Prussian line
>3 guys die
>within seconds 10 of my horses are dead
>what the fuck
>zoom in
>they have ring bayonets already

It's like turn 3 you fucks.

>>127886297
Kick the greek

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>>127886791

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>>127887243
>mp4

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>>127887381

>>127887148
Thats a long way.

Guess ill cut a route through the Lombards.

>Darren monologuing about why Caesar is the best man in history.

Make it stop pls

>>127886923
I think the Prussians start with it. That's their thing I guess.

>>127886781
...fucking how?

>>127888351

>byzantinelatinikon: btw did you know that caesar cried when he have seen the statue of alexander the great? it was because he was upset that alexander in his age controlled most of the known world and he havent done anything. i think it happened when he was in hispania(lusitania probably).

TWC Hellas in the house I see

>>127888623
Prussia have bonus military research at the start.

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> Tomb Kings still not announced

Our dear friend and expert modder Radious is pleading for your help. Please suggest new possible units for a medieval mod
I was thinking:
dismounted crusader cavalry maceman
Fire throwing slingers
Kataphraktoi skirmishers
Novgorod longspears
English heavy cavalry halberters

Why can't Celts construct Large Onagers?

>>127890813
Cause Celts a shit.

>>127890758
Give peasant archers swords only. Early swordsman unit for early game balance.

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>>127890075


You must choose, tomb keks on launch and no other factions, or more factions but no tomb keks

>>127890923

Tomb keks on launch

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>>127890075

test

>>127891032
>>127890923
Agreed
>Skelly Orcs
>Skelly Dorfs
>Skelly Elves
>Skelly humans
>Skelly humans with skelly horse
>Skelly rats
>Skelly chaos
>Skelly skelly
and
>Skelly skelly skelly

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I'm really tired with those horsefuckers

Anyone experienced in the third age mod here? I'm playing with MOS and I want to choose an easy faction that aren't elves,any suggestions?

>>127891245
>Skelly chaos

Gimme.

Attila multiplayer on stream! Please log in and kick his ass for lolz

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>>127891780
ok

Wrong thread lads sorry about that

>>127886405
He also has a snippy, effeminate personality that makes listening to him as he plays terrible as well. Just bring back Dawg, he was an entertaining goofball.

>>127891647
I had a pretty easy time with Rohan. Charge and charge and charge again.

>>127892686
Who the hell are you even? Are you mod?

>>127891647
Aragorns merry band of happy little chumps. Great units.

>>127892174
Nice.

>>127893878
It's gook. He thought he must have thought he was in twcenter for a while.

>>127893976
>>127893261
Both sound good,I'l try aragorn's faction first though,thanks for the suggestions.

>>127892870
Dogbert was demoted to Arena coverage only. He sent craig one too many pictures of himself on the toilet.

>>127895941
Was his girth too impressive?

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>>127896062
I can only assume so.

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>>127885145

Few more days, I'm working on the celts and after that it's going back to do officers/standard/bearers and assign proper mount or animation. Which should be quick.

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>tfw no Pike&Shot: Total War

>>127896639
fuck off anime

>>127896586
Have you done any textures for the anglosaxons?

>>127896639
Anime can stay ^__^

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>>127896831

I've completely changed their equipment but I believe I used existing material I've made for FOTE/AOC reskin, not anything 'custom made to order' for the angles. There wasn't anything new I felt I could make from any references, the only helmet we clearly lack is that iron framed horn paneled boar helmet and I kind of found that too ugly so I'm not interested in chasing down an M&B osp to retexture for it.

There is one brand new asset from Avetis' Anglo-Saxon pack. It's the helmet on the rightmost. I'm not sure what the helmet is meant to depict - it is depicted in the bottom right here: https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/a8/60/cc/a860cc2b0536911eaafb7178ae1bd5d0.jpg

But I don't know what the relic name would be (like 'sutton hoo' helmet', 'coppergate helmet' ect.). But I like how it looks and it seems vaguely reminiscent of helmets I can verify historically so I'm using it for the angles.

>>127896745
I just wish there was a TW game that I haven't already played to death.

I also wish that I hadn't quit smoking, because I enjoyed that stuff

>>127896117
Me too, Craig is a notorious scat fetishist and would otherwise enjoy such a photo. They don't call him "Craig the Shiteater" for nothing.

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>>127897672
Who /de bello mundi/ here? Can't decide if I like it or not - the campaign AI is dodgy for the first 30 turns and never attacks non-rebels, and the battles have the occasional weird bug, plus Rome is, as ever, overpowered as hell.

On the positive side, it's comfy, and my computer won't run Rome 2 so it's the closest I'll get.

Is AoC worth buying? Do units go obsolete in AoC like in Attila? Is it balanced? Does it bring anything new to the table? Are there any additions that stand out one way or another? Is it fun?

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>>127898095
Another downside is that the homo Thracians shredded my army in this siege.

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>>127897672
That explains this image.

>>127898201

>Is AoC worth buying?

I think so

>Do units go obsolete in AoC like in Attila?

You mean the replacement thing? No

>Is it balanced?

Yeah

>Does it bring anything new to the table?

Just war weariness mechanic

>>127898893
So thankful I'm not from the UK, lads

How do I get good at dealing with saboteurs and monks in Shogun 2? They're a real pain in the ass and caused my entire kingdom to pretty much collapse to game start levels of income. Granted my three armies took and held Kyoto it was still a MASSIVE pain in the ass.

>>127899051
Replacement thing does happen for the early game units. Levy spears being replaced after a researched technology and all.

>>127902208
They don't really go "obsolete" though

I need total war: warhammer already
Attila is fun and all but I've been playing it for so long.

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>tfw if it was 2017 we would be getting Total War: Age of Sigmar

>>127903510
AoS is awful

the lore is terrible
the story is terrible
the factions are terrible
the game is FUCKING TERRIBLE

don't even joke about that piece of shit becoming vidya, fuck you for even mentioning it.

>>127903686

I don't play tabletop but I really like Warhammer: Fantasy, everything I've heard about Age of Sigmar so far is complete bollocks.

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>>127903686
What, you don't like Sigmarines :^)?

>>127903686
I know very little about Warhammer, 40k, Games Workshop and such, but what was the point of the switch? Both settings (from an outsider's perspective) looked similar but distinct, but the new ones I saw posted look like it's literally the same. Is it even selling? Why does anyone who wants 40k not get 40k instead of this new one?

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>>127899881
Craig is the only person from the UK in the image, and he is also objectively the sexiest.

>>127903978
Warhammer Fantasy stopped being profitable so they removed a lot of lore(basically a total reboot) and armies and "dumbed down" the gameplay. I have only seen one game and it looked like the players were having fun though. I just can't get into the new edition and no more empire state troopers really bummed me out.

>>127903686
The factions are the same though, and the actual tabletop rules themselves are pretty neat.

I agree though lore and story is terrible, give it time to develop though.

>>127904646
The factions are not the goddamn same

they may be theme'd the same in some ways, but some of the factions are even fully removed from the game fool

>>127904895
Not a single faction has been removed anon, they all received updated rulesets. They're going to be introduced fully later.

Alright, I bought AoC. The unit cards look really nice.

What are some necessary mods for AoC?

>>127905162
If you want to be a trash-bathing fag, Theme of Sicily mod.

>>127905162

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=574241893&searchtext=
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=573239159&searchtext=
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?705015-Age-of-Charlemagne-General-Unit-Portraits

You can also try the avetis reskin mods

>>127905162
Age of Charlemagne - UI more immersive.
Age of Charlemagne Slavic Factions + Theme of Sicily.
The Dark Age: Charlamagne Reskin, Rosters, and Fixes

Age of Britannia is a based mod that lets you play as all the Brits with new traits and shit, but it's optional.

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>>127905351
>>127905357
Thanks, guys.

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>>127905238
And thank you, too. I almost forget.

>playing Age of Shiggymar

>>127906747
Yeah, but let's not do this here.

>>127907051
If we can't do this here, can we do that here?

Anyone here familiar with Third Age TW bugs? I'm in my first playthrough as the dwarves right now. I'm doing really well, but my progress has been brought to a standstill since an invasion was called on Moria. I have a huge, elite stack defending with my best general, and I am looking forward to a fight. However the four stacks of enemy armies right outside my doors don't seem to want to attack. They aren't sieging or anything, just sitting there blocking my from advancing towards mordor. They have not moved for 20 full turns. Is this a glitch? It's really frustrating not being able to move my best army around the map.

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besides SS, what is a good med2 overhaul mod?
>inb4 eb2

D

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>>127909627
E

R

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Maybe one day I will finish a grand campain

U

>>127910495
never ever

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Why won't any of those puppet fuckers settle those swathes of great land around them and grow so I can have allies who can do jack shit?

>>127911193
>playing rome 2

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>>127908906
Thera's pretty cool

>>127908906
Broken Crescent for the world of I-slam
De bello mundi for pre ad timeline
Bellum Crucis if you love having no money
True Conquest if you want to experience conquering continents

How do you stop your governors from developing such terrible fucking traits in M2? It's getting to the point where most of my cities actually lose public order and tax income by having a governor.

>>127911193
They will eventually, you just need to give them a few turns.

>>127911461
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3fYtoRNNNQ

>>127911193
Why haven't you taken Palestine and Syria? What kind of Jew are you?

>>127912361
You don't, really. The best way to avoid it is to avoid developing culture-type buildings and keep taxes high. Governors have a very short lifespan before turning Slaaneshi and needing to be sent to the front lines.

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>>127912361
Well, lets just say nobody is perfect anon. If they start really causing trouble just move them out of the city and sends them to your troops. That is why it's important to use the generals the minute you get them. It's good cavalry after all. In fact, you can form a whole army of nothing but generals

>>127913510
Not a jew, went for bronze masked big guys paganism instead.

>>127914865
Laudable, but I'd still get those two for aesthetic borders. If you can't roughly trace your borders with uninterrupted lines, you gotta fix it.

>>127908906
Third Age.

Elder Scrolls.

Call of Warhammer.

The list goes on and on mate.

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Man.. and I thought the over 2gb big Darth mod would fix Empire... The AI is just so retarded, no battle is at least a little bit challenging.
Most of the time it just goes straight into melee right at the beginning at the fight, it can't form a somewhat straight firing line, it's just zig zagging with it's troops.
And the army compsitions are retarded too, 90% of them are just militia troops. really disappointing,

>>127914704
>this will never be your life

;_;

>>127915764
But anon, it's not a woman if it has a penis

>>127916168
But it can be very cute if it has a penis

How the fuck do you use unit abilities in Shogun 2 Fall of the Samurai? I must be missing something very obvious, but I cannot find the button for "kneel fire".

>>127916682
Low tier units don't get kneel fire iirc, try using something better than levies and line infantry.

>>127916842
Are you certain? The encyclopedia states line infantry should have kneel fire. However I also have a unit of sharpshooters and a unit of Kihetai, and I could not find the button with any of those either.

Am I blind or some shit?

>>127917031
Light infantry can't kneel fire. Line infantry can, don't know what that other anon is talking about. The buttons for unit abilities are just above the unit cards at the bottom of the screen.

>>127917280
So it should be up with skirmish mode, guard mode, and fire at will? Is it a research or something? The encyclopedia doesn't mention anything about that. Nor does the unit info.

>>127917031
Pretty sure outside of custom battles you have to unlock kneel fire via the tech tree

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>>127886297
Deus Vult
My friend.

>>127917703
Yeah, it's in the tech tree, same with suppressive fire.

>>127912361
building churches, schools/universities/academies, guilds and other cultural buildings. Every so often you'll need to take him 'for a walk'. Try to avoid building taverns and whorehouses if you can.

>>127915302
Third age is very good,but use MOS or DaC.

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Seriously, how am I going to deal with this bullshit? That conga line stretches all the back to Samarkand.

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>>127919981
Jesus Christ, that makes Call of Warhammer look tame.

>>127919981
Only one option.

Spawn your own armies.If that's even possible.

I ripped the soundtrack from M2TW and Kingdoms. Would anyone be interested if I uploaded it to mega?

>>127920695
yeah

>>127919981
Where are they going, are they just passing through all the way wes?

>>127909627
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>>127910001
fuck those hoof squirrels
fucking annoying

>>127921232
Georgia had much of the Caucasus and half of Persia at one point, so they drew most of the horde towards them. I paid the Mongols to attack the Ayyubids in Mesopotamia to draw pressure off Cilicia and Antioch and so that the horde won't come pouring through Trebizond next.

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>>127919981
I hope they are one unit each

>>127919981
get a bunch of 1 man armies
autowin_attacker
autowin_defender

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>>127921762
>cheating

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>>127921738
It seems the vast majority aren't.

>>127919981
Ally with them,they may leave you alone.

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So, how come we don't ever start up a game with one person for each playable faction?

>>127922464
Like a hotseat?

>>127922654
No, like fucking multiplayer.

>>127922745
Because online multiplayer campaigns have only ever been two players max, unless you try the incredibly difficult to organise hotseat campaigns.

>>127922745
You could do a tournament of battles at the very best. A 17 faction campaign online is just pure madness. It took one group almost 1 year to complete it

>>127922885
not that anon but sometimes I imagine what it would be like if it worked similar to games like EU4 with the possibility of every faction being controlled by a player. Would make for some interesting campaigns that's for sure.

>>127915517
Did Spain have some sort of revolution in your game or is that their flag by default in darth?

>>127923549
That would be amazing, shame CA hate fun / have shit netcode.

>>127923549
There are sync issues all the time with just two. People would be dropping like flies, not to mention someone in the bunch WILL have hardware issues. Murphy's is a cold motherfucker

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Will my r7 370 4G be able to run this game on max smoothly?

>>127924542
uh ... which game ?

>>127924319
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdNJ3BQ_er0&list=PLm0MDLKuRDrn2Sk8dR5aPys0b9Kzj-5G3&index=1

I don't see why there couldn't be a mod for Medieval 2 to allow 17 players to play at once, even if all battles are auto-resolved.

Hell, even Euro Truck Simulator 2 has a mod adding multiplayer support for lots of players at once.

>>127924659
Whoops I'm retarded, I meant atilla

>>127924932
No he's retarded, what else would you mean?

>>127924932
yeah its alright

>>127922039
>playing farily against pure, unconcetrated bullshit AI cheating

>>127919981
kek what mod?

>>127907523
Bumping for an answer. I don't want to continue this campaign if it's bugged out on me.

>>127927389
looks like broken crescent

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>>127884529
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=772581

How's the warhammer game looking ? Don't give a fuck about all that , haven't kept up, but thinking of pre-ordering, looking any good ?

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>>127932160
Looks pretty good so far, some complaints about DLC and the inability to conquer certain territories with certain factions and being forced to start in the same zone regardless of which faction leader you go with.

All in all I'd wait and pre-order a few days before release. That way you can get a full refund without losing out on the pre-order bonus.

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>>127929568
That thread over in /a/ was golden.

How exactly do you capture enemy onagers? I got one once when I had a free slot after just killing everything, but now I just wiped an army with 3 of them with another 3 supporting and nothing.

>>127932939
its random

>>127932160
Simply put, expect the game to be a little unoptimized and requiring the first few big patches to flush out mechanics, gameplay, etc.

There are magic and flying units. Limited but offer huge bursts of power.

You are territory locked on where you start but that has been every TW game so that isn't really an issue.

Vampires and Chaos forces can seed an area with corruption heavily altering the region (similar to desolation in ATW I imagine).

Most important point: expect the game to be "relatively" content dry at the start. This is a trilogy where all three games, DLC packs, etc. will combine to create one fuck huge game.

The only thing that I think is stupid is being unable to attack certain factions/races as a certain faction or race. This is going to make co-op kind of shitty, but I will wait and see.

>>127932463
They really need to fix that startpos bullshit, it's a dumb limitation that makes no sense for these factions. There's so much space in the Warhammer world that it'd be a huge change if different leaders were in different positions. It's also a thing of sense -- if they have a Blood Dragon or Nekhrata leader for VC, they would be more likely to start in Brettonia. Frankly, this game smells a little like Rome 2. It won't be nearly as bad at first, but there will be way too many dumb little things they did to ruin the experience that they'll progressively fix as the game is out.

>>127934382
>this game smells a little like Rome 2
Well its supposed to be bad.
Then the AoS sequel will be R2's Attila and everyone will tell FB to die
:^)

>>127935786
This thing will fortunately be supported more than any other TW, so I don't think it'll be bad in the end. I think it'll be filled with "features" you have no idea why they were added in the first place, like R2's lack of family tree or phone game UI, and we'll have to hope they come to their senses on most of them.

Has CA even said anything about the second or third expansions, in the way of a project road map similar to what Bungie did for Destiny?

Anything that is, aside from the trilogy bit.

>>127936554
Not that I know of, except that it was mentioned that they would be eventually including every "major" race, which I take to mean every one with an army book except Chaos Dwarfs. Although I would pay for a Chaos Dwarf faction pack.

>>127920695
>>127920779
Sorry for taking so long. Blame my shitty rural internet.
https://mega.nz/#!hYVBXTqI!Q8QE4VVZtFXQxa6TMiki6BYZQ9M31THso7xQw_vgOUc

>>127936910
I figure there will be Chaos Dwarves, according to my prediction for the 3 games. The most sensible and easy way to divide the world into three games is thus:

>Corresponding Old World
>Humans, Dwarves, Orcs, Vamps, Skaven, Wood Elves, Beastmen

>Corresponding New World
>High Elves, Dark Elves, Lizardmen

>Corresponding Ancient World
>Tomb Cucks, Ogres, Chaos Dwarves

Ogres and Beastmen might be NPC only, though

>>127937565
My rationale being, if they do a game based on the ancient world region, they absolutely need Chaos Dwarves if they want anything more than Boney Boiz, because they are the only other major, civilized faction around.

>Be me
>Be kinda nub playing rome 2
>Doing some imperator campaing coz why not
>Pick Octavian
>Everything seems fine
>Eliminate blue romans coz they are gay pirates and the senate is ded
>Mark antony doesn't mind me, he's doing stupid shit with parthia
>Lepidus declares me war
>Begin to march towards Iberia
>My Gauls allies inform me that they are getting fucked in the ass
>Fucking germans
>Conquer one village from them
>Every tribe declares me war
>They don't stop sending trops
>For every roman there are 50 germans
>Beat them easily coz they are snow niggers without shirt and instead of throwing javalins they thrown frozen turds
>Can't move from the place
>Almost my entire army are in their frontiers trying to hold them
>Dacio-Gypsies invade the Pyrenees

FUCKING
BARBARIANS

Did that glitch in Medieval 2 where two-handed infantry would always lose to sword and shield infantry ever get patched?

>>127939205
That doesn't sound like a glitch desu.
>Swing claymore
>Blocked by shield and pushed back
>Sword&Shield soldier then strikes back with his sword while two hander is off balance/preparing to swing again

Who /xcg/ here

>>127940062
It is according to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BIT1v28Sb8

>>127942918
I ain't gonna watch that whole thing, but I'm guessing you think he's full of shit?

>>127943110
Just jump to where he starts talking about infantry at about 7:45.

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>>127940341
Me
who /frg/ here

>>127940062
>>127943110
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5NxBzWKdmY

>>127940062
Except that wasn't how it worked, it was more like this
>swing claymore
>peasant stabs at plate with a blunt kitchen knife
>this somehow penetrates plate armour enough to make the unit flinch and interrupt the attack animation but inflict no damage
>get hit again while flinching and this makes the unit flinch again
>repeat ad infinitum until a potato peeler eventually lands a mortal wound

>>127940062
It's stylistically designed to be that way:^)

>>127946495
Hopefully it will work

>>127947154
>>127946495
You can't undo it, but you can diminish the effects with mods.

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>look up stuff for warhams tw
>looks like crap
>tfw RotDG will never be updated because filthy russians
>tfw while i'll always love it, it will continue to be buggy as hell
>tfw i'm sad I don't have the know-how or time to make it perfect.

>>127927974
Dont worry about it, just kill them all

what benefit is there to sallying forth when getting attacked?

>>127949289
If for whatever reason you'd prefer to fight outside the walls, you can do it.

Can be useful if the besiegers are not very strong, or you fear that they intend to starve you out (which means you only get weaker by the turn) or are bringing reinforcements

>>127949289
Sometimes the AI leaves their artillery out and you can kill it.

>>127947670
content?

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Press F to pay respects

>>127951264
Hm?

Is there a let's play that makes battles interesting (mediocre but charismatic player, house rules, etc)?
I recently enjoyed the Massalia Tales but by now it's just steamrolling the remaining hostile factions and hasn't had any defeat or difficult battle in ages.

I realize that probably my grammar is kind of weird but english is not my first language and I am currently spending my friday night drinking and looking for videos of other people playing games.

>>127910495
I hate R2's and Atillas victory conditions.

>>127905351
Send help I am retarded

How do I even download that third one? Is it not out yet?

>>127952058
I don't know if he's any good, but I've seen people link a guy called OfficiallyDevin and he does narrative LPs with house rules.

>>127952769
They're all shit. Either you, podunk barbar tribe of twenty men, take over literally the entire map, or you spend your entire game saving to buy alliances with the entire map.

>>127951702
E

>>127954340
He is the guy that makes the Massalia Tales. His narrative style is interesting and you don't have to watch him managing everything.

But as I said, he is just cleaning up the map by now (I wish he declared war on carthage or something). I guess this is kind of unavoidable as the AI has a lot of limitations.

His other series The Second Messaiah (Atilla Total War) is good also.

>>127938904
Should have went with Sextus brah.

>playing Vikings is AoG
>sacking britland settlements 1 by 1
>easy peasy cause they tearing each others throats
>gets offered 500 gold to stop raiding
>crank it up to 2000 3 factions agreed to this
>sack again
Never had this much fun in TW in a long time.

>>127954528
Yeah i liked the campaign goals when it was just
>take this places
>kill this fucks
>finish by dinner

>>127952769
I guess you would prefer Age of Charlemagne's victory conditions, then, which is why reaching a certain Imperium level.

>>127956552
I just want objectives that would make sense for the group you're playing. Suebi military victory should be to conquer all of Europe, not invade Armenia or some shit. Only Rome, Silly Kids, Macedon, and Epirus should be about taking over the world. Horsefuckers should only want to take over the steppes and Iranic plateau, then have x many sackings.

>>127951704
*meant context

for the picture. That seems like a hard fought battle but I am wondering how it played out.

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Should i let him marry beard-wife?

>>127957409
Pretty much just slaughtered them as they got into the fort.
Katana Samurai are strong as fuck

>>127949289
If you got a cav heavy army such as when you are being sassanids sallying out would be best

>>127957473
Of course!

>>127957693
Anon i feel weird about this.

Are Danes Tolkien dwarves?

>>127957767
Of coursh!

>>127957473
It would be islamophobic not to!

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>>127957473

>>127890075
Post launch DLC.

Dont worry, it will only be a reasonable $29.99!

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>Play Rome after having a blast with Medieval
>The board game dealio is gone, enjoy micromanagement hell
>Try to enjoy it anyway
>Play as Brutii
>Steamroll the Greeks and Macedonians
>Always slaughter everyone because fuck rebellions
>Have 16 regions out of the target 50
>The game is already a clusterfuck and I forget to move agents
>The senate keeps trying to fuck me over
>Keeping track of people is already a nightmare
>The battles can be fun but the campaign map is such a drag I've lost pretty much all interest
Whoever was responsible for the shit tier Civilization copy ought to be shot. Medieval and Shogun got it right.

>>127960191
>insulting the second best game of the series after M2
fuck off, you angry R2 babby

>>127960191
Any idea on the source of that image?

>>127960191
>wahhh it's too hard

out of all the legitimate complaints regarding rome total war, this is not one of them. The freedom to organize armies, cities, and agents to one's liking is one of the pros.

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>>127960191

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>>127960191
All the flaws in your statements points directly at you anon.

How do I become good at TW battles? I am a very timid person who prefers to autoresolve because I'm afraid of losing unless I'm drunk, and I'd like to be able to read or watch something that will go in depth into tactics during battles so I feel more confident about my ability to actually command troops to victory.

>>127961906
Understand what your army is good at, then force that advantage.

>>127961906
Who else holds a certain love for loyal vassals?

>>127961906
Hammer & Anvil is your friend.

>>127962236
Didn't mean to quote, my bad.

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>>127960567
Never even tried Rome 2.
>>127960818
It's just a very dull and slow grind. Unlike games that focus on that aspect there's no real depth to it but you have to keep doing trivial shit turn after turn. It's like civilization 4 crossed with a paradox game but for retards. Medieval and Shogun were quick and played more like a variant of Risk or something and the overmap were just there to give the battles context, it wasn't the meat of the game. Making it less abstracted and waste more of your time doesn't mean that it's more complex or more fun.

Taking a region doesn't feel good at all, it's just another shithole I have to manage and send an autistic relative to. It's just so boring, banal and slow.

>>127961906
create army
create line of sword units
put spear units on sides of line
put ranged units infront with skirmishing turned on
cav on sides
artillery in back
sit and wait for enemy army to attack
use cav to drive off cav
ranged will work until they pull back from enemy, move them to sides with spears
use spears to watch flanks and intercept cav
let swords fight infantry
when cav is gone or far away, move ranged to side of enemy army and let them go to work (turn off skirmish mode)
when your cav returns, hammer rear of enemy line until they rout
in the meantime, use any free cav to take out enemy ranged units, artillery, and then charge enemy infantry rear, pull back, charge again, repeat until they rout
recieve victory

if you have artillery, same as above, except turn them off when lines close
also try to focus their fire on the enemy general's unit, and go cinematic mode as well to shoot faster and more accurate

>>127962728
Take heed! Formations like that are easily destroyed by an experienced player in MP.

>>127962239
I understand the concept but when I use it enemies dont rout as fast as I expect.

>>127962728
What if the enemy doesnt attack, like in Shogun 2 when they just un to the enarest hill

>>127963141
MP is wonderful
>sit still for 30 minutes until your enemy tries making you break formation with a false engagement or to see if you're even there
>get some free kills as you move your army to compensate
>wait for another 3 hours until he charges you
>beat the crap out of him
>Opponent has disconnected

>>127963554
>Shogun 2
Is this FotS?
Apply cannons to all your problems
If its RotS or plain S2, play FotS

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>>127963554
Somethings not quite right with my Family.

>>127963554

If they don't break after the initial charge then pull your cav back and repeat.
However, make sure that they're properly formed up before charging again.

And if the enemy doesn't attack you it means that you're the one attacking (which means that the AI is choosing your battles, instead of you choosing them and letting them come to YOU).

Attacking an enemy who has the high ground is a bitch in itself. Pretty much the same tactics apply.

Thankfully, the BAI of TW games is absolute shit;
Try baiting the enemy to charge by harassing their front line with skirmishers/archers (obviously, you need your army at the ready).

If they won't charge and you don't have any space to do hammer & anvil then you're pretty much in for an infantry grindfest. You'd better have quality or quantity advantage in this case.

inb4 niceblog

>>127963915
The Koran Muslima does not support this action

>>127963915
lol same thing happened in my mercia campaign

>>127963679
Fuck those assholes.

I once fought a whiny bastard in M2.

>he gated all his forces inside his fort.
>I bought 3 mortars.
>half his army were Heavy cav
>started typing profanities, sallied fort
>placed my spearmen in front of the gate
>peppered them with arrows
>called me a cheater then quit

>>127963885
reg s2

>>127963978
So what if, for instance, I have few/no cav?

>>127964374
I was referring to FotS MP, which is just
"run up nearest hill and sit there if your enemy doesnt have cannons"
He had nothing but white tigers so I rolled with it and played Pokemon until the battle started

About to start up a campaign in SS as the Scots
Anything I need to do besides play this in the background?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNyB4bvEzSQ

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>>127964815
Pardon me, I dropped my pic

>>127964815
Kill England early. Dont let them have long-bowmen. Or rush a rebel settlement in the mainland to built trade routes.

>>127964617
Yari Ashigaru Walls to pin them down. Use Samurai of your choice as the anvil. If you don't have them yet, more Yari Ashigaru. Try and lure the opposing general into your ashigaru with missile fire and then shred them with spears.

Vanilla Shogun 2?

Anyone else really hate how anti-comfy R2 is? Once things start settling down, the game decides you're too powerful and every other faction decides they don't even want to trade with you anymore. It's realm divide without the tension. You have to set up whatever trade agreements and alliances you want within the first fifty turns, because you're not making any more after that.

>>127965095
Honestly I'm asking in regards to all TW tames. But as for S2m vanila yea.

>>127964815
>>127964990
Wrong song bucko.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuwmbk3Fx04

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMOUCpoLB_8

What say you now Anglos, Normans and Saxons?
In 1500 years of warfare and oppression you still couldn't keep the last of the Celts down.

>>127966016
What has the celts ever achieved beyond hiding away to avoid getting completely obliterated?

>>127964617
Why wouldn't you have cavalry in your army meng?

Anyway, if you don't have cavalry then you'll need to break your enemy at their weakest point.

Either by concentrating missile fire on a certain flank/on their back and waiting for them to break and/Or by marching whatever reserves you may have and enveloping their weakest flank.

>>127966371


Not getting cucked by middle eastern immigrants for one.

>>127936193
>so I don't think it'll be bad in the end.
>fantasy shit maded only for DLC selling

>>127966947
wat mod?
SPQR?

>>127888695
I've seen them go as low as -259 idek. They're fine once you capture them though obviously.

>>127966846
It's been this way for a while, m8, you just gotta accept these things happen even if you don't like it

>>127886781
I'm kind of amazed that WRE was able to maintain such a homogeneous empire in africa and spain.

>>127967335
>you just gotta accept these things
Which one? Shitty games with 4 factions and without gameplay?

>>127964815
Play without a shirt, paint your face and chest, wear a kilt if you have one, a skirt if you dont

>>127966371
>>127966672

REKT
E
K
T

>>127965095
>Use Samurai of your choice as the anvil. If you don't have them yet, more Yari Ashigaru.
Don't you mean hammer, since the anvil is what pins them

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>>127967869
yes.

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>Vassal is more than twice as strong as me
>Still +225 Friendship/Loyalty
>Crushes anyone who dares attack me
Jesus christ

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>>127967757
God I need to get a kilt.
And they aren't too badly priced

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>>127967172

RTR1.9p

>>127967968
>S-senpai noticed me!

>>127967816
>>127966672
>has to samefag
kek

>play Empire
>AI only builds militia and you can rarely get any decent battles
>play Napoleon
>AI has several doomstacks from turn 1 and spams them out like an assembly line
Is it so fucking hard to balance the game reasonably well

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playing macedon right now
tried to invade the romans with my whole military on hard/hard this is result

wew

>>127968437


>literally no counter argument


lol get BTFO fag

>>127968705
Waht went wrong? Got held up in northern Italy?

>>127967968
Shouldn't they have tried to rebel by now?

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>>127968816

I BTFO illyria and took a city in northern italy using gallic allies as buffer, once the gauls were killed romans started pounding at my city door so I moved all my armies from the east to the west and got stuck in a situation where I had to defend a bridge with 2 armies and the rest just slogged by a ton of roman armies to the west


a couple years later I regrouped and invaded southern italy destroyed a shit ton of cities and moved into sicily where I am currently evacuating my army back to greece

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>>127969072
Do you enough money to take southern Italy?

If you do hold the north until you can cross from Greece. It might also divide that Roman Rave.

Is it possible to convert to Manichaeism in Attila?

I am wondering what its benefits are but it sounds fairly unique.

Playing as Aksum currently. Though after reading past threads it looks like Himyar is the favorite African kingdom.

>>127968784
>counter argument
SNP and Labour, the two parties scots love, are the ones that let them in

>>127969656
Theres a mod that lets you convert to any religion within your empire, you'll probably need to get that. Manichaeism seems to be within mostly Sassanid territory, so go fucking with them.

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Probably the hardest battle I've ever fought.
Ended up with my Line Infantry fighting hand to hand against their General and five platoons of Levy/Line Infantry.
Was VERY close.

I'm having trouble getting an Ostrogoth campaign off the ground in Atilla. I want to take advantage of their faction trait and score some roman military buildings, preferably in Africa. Problem is that you have to wait it out and hope the CAI actually builds them. Does the trait also work with Roman rebel, separatist, and successor settlements?

>>127966672
https://youtu.be/5jWb1dEz6cg
I dunno Murphy, looks like you guys are getting it too.

If a town that you're conquering has more than 15-20k available for looting at the end you bet your ass I'm going to do it.
Just send the Daimyo out with the troops to gain the honor back in combat!

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>Vassal is out conquering Japan in my name
God I love these glorious bastards.
I'll send them 5-10k every six turns or so and they keep up the war effort.

>>127971903
All I have to do is sit back and declare war on the next closest guy on the mainland and keep sending Nobeoka money to keep up the war effort while I rebuild and upgrade my forces.
UNITED STATES MARINE CORPS HERE I COME
GETTING IN PRACTICE FOR THE FORTIES

>>127972817
Enjoy getting backstabbed senpai

>>127973220
If I get backstabbed I'll just turtle my forces on the two islands under my control. I'm already anticipating it and have begun preparations to make them as productive if not more so than all of my mainland provinces combined. I may not be able to win a war with them, but you can damn well bet I won't go down without a fight.

They've been my vassal since i kicked their ass in the very beginning of the campaign, so it's not like they haven't had the opportunity to whomp my ass.

>>127973418
Your first mistake is to assume the AI is predictable, they'll randomly declare war on your ass regardless of how much you cuddle them. So the fact that they already had the oppertunity but didn't means nothing

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>>127973220
Here's their relationship statistics but I'm sure hints at betrayal wouldn't be given away so easily.

>>127973220
it's FotS, as long as they stay Imperial, he's safe.

>>127973712
I've been waiting for them to declare war on me ever since I made them my bitch in our first war so it's not like I'm expecting them to stay with me, I'm really surprised they didn't swamp me before i took the islands and made them strongholds.

>>127973729
Once they get big enough they'll turn on you.

>>127974785
I think we're at that point :^)
Either they declare war on me soon or I will once I've built up a mainland army.

>>127886923
Why is America driving a T-72

>>127970613
Closest battle i ever fought in shogun 2 had 3 stacks attacking a small fort. the final battle was him with one 3/4 unit of katana samurai vs about a total of 60 men from 5 different units in combat at the gate house. and with my generals unit charging in on foot, all 7 of them)

The only unit that survived was my general with 5 men left. but I won the battle. and saved the town.

>>127886923
Bayonets are always the first thing you should research.

Also when it comes to cavalry in empire, your targets are either their cavalry, their skirmishers, their general or most importantly their artillery.

Only charge infantry if the infantry is already engaged in close combat.

>>127903978

>Is it even selling?

Fucking no one knows.

Even people with access to stockholder information don't know.

GW obfuscates the SHIT out of their finances, refuses to talk about it and doesn't want to do market research.

>>127905047

>Not a single faction has been removed anon, they all received updated rulesets

You mean the literal joke rules that require you to ride an imaginary horse, wear a fake mustache and scream at your opponent?

That's not even mentioning how you literally cannot play with your old army if it was heavy on cheap infantry, since AoS only cares about how many models you have, not what they can do.

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>>127885875

lel Darrens explanation of Mods, Copyright and CA at the start of the stream.

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What if we have become the very evil we sought to destroy?

>Decide to try out Medieval II
>Play France
>All is well in the first 25 turns
>suddenly every single bordering nation attacks me for no apparent reason

Why is diplomacy even a feature in this game?

>>127891245
> skelle (not human)

not with their being only one official model in some old metal mercenary regiment

>>127979435
AI diplomacy has never been TW's strong suit, but it was particularly terrible in pre-warscape games. In my current Broken Crescent gane the Crusaders constantly declared war on me and broke alliances for no real reason even as they got swallowed up by the Ayyubids.

>>127979435
> Play as France
> get moors as first ally and they actually stay loyal instead of fucking with me like the italians
> Portugal (who I've been conquering the shit out of) conquers the shit out of them until they have one last city
> pope declares a crusade against it and demands my king participates

>>127898201
Age of Conan?

>>127922745
I mostly pirate, but i have med 2 on steam. I could play hotseat through email if you want. I should be back home in about 9 hours

Does longer campaign length in shogun2 also give me more time before realm divide happens or is the threshold the same no matter what?

>>127978956
I wonder if they're even allowed to stream Warhammer related mods.

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Okay help me out /twg/

>Playing as Lakhmids
>After the 3rd try I get lucky and White Huns rape Sassanids
>I get up to chapter 4 i think?
>See a little cinematic abandon all hope or whatever
>Suddenly I end up going from 5k income a turn to -4k
>Eastern Roman Empire hates me
>Auto declare war on me
>Because of my negative income everyone starts to get pissed
>My 80 year old leader finally croaks
>Civil War
>4 full stacks of Roman soldiers
>Can't hold my miltary centered region
>FML and everything in it

What the fuck just happened? Is Chapter 4 supposed to be like on steroids or something? It's ridiculously hard playing on Legendary btw

So, great migrators. How do I play them and why exactly would I want to leave my built up stuff and trash it and do it again and again?

>>127980126

Something I've figured out is that if you border someone, they WILL attack you.

However, here's a crazy thing I noticed as apart of a Stainless Steel campaign. When I was just releasing troops, lower taxes and stuff to build up chivalry for that tasty growth bonus, less and less people randomly declared war on me, and I could get alliances easier. Turns out that the Trustworthiness of your faction kind of somewhat actually matters, assuming you're bigger / have allies close to you / have a giant stack on your border cities.

Also noticed that you can bribe the pope with a crazily tiny amount of dosh (100 a turn, over 20 turns), and it really slows down other catholic factions attacking you - or in the very least gets them excommunicated and thus other catholics pile on.

>>127984925
At each chapter, the fertility in ALL the provinces drops. Consequently the amount of food, and the amount of money you are getting from food, drops. By the mid-late game everywhere is barren, and it's really difficult to have built up areas. You have to rely on fishing for food, and just break down a lot of your stuff so you can handle it.

The Eastern Romans probably were just waiting for their other enemies to be distracted / cut off by razed provinces to come after you. That or they got a ruler that specifically hates your culture's guts.

>>127985767

A) Because Iberia is flat out better than all the starting positions

B) You can make really insane amounts of money as a horde; just sack, raid, sack, raid and don't really bother with major settlements.

C)You'll (Usually) only be going up against the WRE. Their early units (and mid units) are REALLY bad, and break at the drop of a hat. Just take out the general, and you're done. And because everyone else is usually piling on as well, it's easy to carry out.

D)You'll not see any Hunnic hordes until you're ready.

E)Why wouldn't you burn Rome to the ground?

Where the heck can I download Trom3? all the links for it in the paste are ded.

Are +X experience for recruits items still bugged? I'm not getting the bonus

>>127968851
Not if the relationship is +225.

>>127991087
>rome TW
> +morale building
>it actually decreased it untill they patched it
>not even sure if it is working now either

>>127964815

wrong vid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciPu4DnKBuM

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>>127885875
CA playing Planetwar when

>>127993045
They might not do it if they spot all the copyrighted shit in it.

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Place bets lads

>>127994167
you are defending ofcourse you'll win m8

>>127994167
Why? Even the AI agress with your odds.

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>hm, I havent checked WRE in a while. I wonder how my friends are doing
>oh

>>127995127
I don't know what you expected.

Unless you let them suckle in the nourishing teat of your empire, they'll die.

Follow the example of jew-roman anon.

>>127977641
this is wrong.

Only time you don't engage infantry is if they square. If they don't square, it's like a sword unit in attila that doesn't brace. Cavalry beats everything actually, people think it sucks in gunpowder era but it's even better desu. Line infantry doesn't have to be engaged, it just cant get a volley off on you before you make contact, but there are multiple ways to do this.

Cavalry is made to kill infantry, that's the big thing about empire that scrubs don't grasp. You would already know this if you've played multiplayer.

1)charge cav into flank of line infantry
2)pull through to the other end, with your guys on the wide flanks pulling through and engaging the other line on the other end so multiple line are all engaged in melee. At this point, a single cavalry unit is preventing their entire line from firing. Now, shoot with your infantry and artillery and cause a rout from delivering devastating volleys without receiving fire yourself. If you can catch a line that's not in square, it'll go down easy. Only thing that actually beats cav is square formation and a good volley.

The best strat isn't to pick easy targets for your cav, it's to make your cav be as big of a nuisance as possible, to prevent as many units from firing as possible for as long as possible.

>>127970630
Never managed this myself. Ransacked through all of roman territory and never found a single military or level 3 settlement. Finally settled with rome, built some roman spear armies, and finally got bored with my single roman unit and deciderd to play a roman campaign instead. My only suggestion would be to grt buddy buddy with rome and help defend them until they build a level 3 with a military building

How's Empire these days? I bought it on release but it was such a buggy mess that I shelved it and haven't given it another shot since.

>>127997063
Either go darthmod or bust

>funnel money to WRE to keep them afloat
>pay barbs to attack WRE instead of me
>become bros with the White Huns and Himyar when they fuck up the Sassies and Friends
>churning out money like it's no one's business
I wish we could move capitals so it could be Jerusalem

>>127997063
It still has the most bugs and there are no mods that actually fix the game. Some mods add bugs. It can still be fun if you ignore all that I guess.