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old thread:>>127627713

Dead inside edition.

>New league Talisman info
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1478438

>/poeg/ HC guild (No sporkers allowed), drop your IGN if you want an invite
https://www.pathofexile.com/guild/profile/740

>Helpful links
http://pastebin.com/2a5WBcBP (embed) (embed) (embed)

>"Hey guys what's the price on this piece of shit item"
http://poe.trade/

>Read this before asking for build advice
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/510084

>2.0 Passive Skill Tree
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree

>2.1 Offline Skill Tree Planner
https://github.com/EmmittJ/PoESkillTree/releases/tag/2.2.3

>Wiki
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Path_of_Exile_Wiki

>Delete This
https://github.com/ben-wallis/Filtration
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>>127847886
>>127848015
Beautiful, I'm proud of you
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rate me
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is trading as bad on hc as it is on sc
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>>127849581
Nice try, next time kill faster
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>>127849581
Embarassing, I was literally at more than 120mil on dried lake at level with crap gear and 4 links.
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>>127850340
no

low tier and leveling shit actually sells
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Hate trading in this game sometimes
>WTB your Kaoms for 6.5exalts
>Puts 5ex in the windows
>???????
>I said 5 exalts

Fucking down syndrome
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Vaal Spark fags on suicide watch
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>>127851187
>2+ months to make currency and rmt it all

yeah...about that suicide watch
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diablo 3 general
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>>127851187
>>127851421
yeah, if it's safe til then maybe ill try it
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>>127849581
thats amazing anon good job
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>>127853530
thank u anon
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>you can't make builds
>you only follow streamer/popular guides
>you think there are only a few viable builds

Why haven't you killed yourself yet for being the most useless person there ever was?
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>>127853649
hi PT
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>>127853649
no matter how useless i am, i'm not you
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>>127853649
>playing anything but ziggyD's builds

ayyy
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>>127853950
>watch ziggy stream
>he drops 2-3+ maps per map
>no shit low level maps

nice game poetards
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I found a Soul Taker, nearly perfect roll too 140% IPD and 24% AS. Never played melee so this sjould be fun. Thinking of making a build with it rather than selling. What's a good skill to go with it /poet/? I was thinking of a multistrike build but not reave I want something more edgy so maybe Dual Strike? Auras I was thinking of Grace+Hatred and something like Dual Strike-Multistrike-Melee phys-Melee Splash-added fire and hypothermia when I get a 6L astral plate. Will get Iron Reflex and some hybrid one hander nodes that should put me at 24% block.
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>>127855967
exaclty
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>>127855967
blasfeeble is better than grace
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You know GGG fucked up hard with balancing when you're playing a wander spec and coc barrage with bladefall is your strongest multitarget that just shreds bosses.
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>>127857157
I prefer CwDT + Enfeeble. 35% Blasphamy really killed it for me to use it in any regular life build.

>>127856834
Exactly what?
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>>127857686
but you are already saying you want grace

with blasf and charisma cluster you can squeeze AA in there too
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>>127858591
Grace+Hatred puts you at 100% mama reserved. cwdt+enfeeble works pretty well since you're always in melee range. I don't think its worth dropping neither auras for a 35% bladphamy enfeeble aura. Charisma alone won't drop Blasphamy from 35 to 25%. You'd need a 25% free mana to fit in AA since Hatred reserves 50% mana.

https://poe.mikelat.com/#cKgd2h/0=r1I8lh

With charisma + blasph + hatred you're at 79% reserved mana. AA requires 25% manager so won't fit in.

With charisma + hatred + blasphemy + AA it would put you at 102% mama reserved. I also want to point out that Charisma is at a retarded long spot I'm going either with Scion or Marauder and picking up the leech nodes at the bottom so there's little need for Vaal Pact. Going there will severely reduce the points you can spent and gimping your build.
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>>127859818
you are forgetting AA also dips in charisma

so you end up with 96% reserved
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I had to try
Any tips for when she splits in 4?
I got her to 50%, healing stage is fine, solo is fine, but 4 of them I just hit 2-3 things in the face and that is
I am aware that my hp/es is ass but my gear suck atm
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>>127860295
use poison meme probably
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>>127860431
I mean, when theres 4 of the its overwhelming
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>>127860151
derped forgot to calculate the 4%, you'll sit at 97% mana reserved, but yeah you're right. To reach it takes 9 nodes, makes me wonder if it's really worthed though. If I started as melee ranger or shadow it's alot easier and I agree worth in getting the cluster.

For HC I strongly dislike the idea of a melee Ranger due the lack of life on the right side compared to the left side. I did abit of planning on the tree, and at around like 90ish I should have around 7.5k life (256% life with jewels), which is a pretty good amount. I tried Southpaw reaver ranger in Wardbands and I found it quite challenging to get sub 5-5.5k life.
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>>127860676
>>127860151
9 nodes only if I start as a Scion traveling from Harrier to Charisma. If I start as Marauder never mind going to the Vaal Pact area.
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>>127860676

Evasion characters can generally have less life because they generally get hit far less.

Armour characters have to survive all the hits of a pack, an evasion character only has to survive one. I've played plenty of evasion characters to 90+ and getting 5k life is enough for it. Evasion and 7k+ would be completely obscene.
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>>127860295
the 4 split phase is a dps check
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>>127860295

>that total life pool

absolutely disgusting
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>>127860613
just dodge with whirling blades
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>>127861158
>5k life is enough
dunno about this. all my eva chars i build with ~200% life and end up with like 6.5k and i dont feel its "more than enough"

>>127860676
yeah if you arent going for vp or ranger already its not worth it
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>>127861158
When you do get hit it hurts, particulary on hard hitting mobs. Lightning Coil is pretty expensive on HC it's like 5+ exalts currently. I wouldn't feel comfortable playing an evasion melee character without a LC while Armour based character can get away using a astral plate even if you're a melee.
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>>127861647

How do you even get 200% life on an eva character without ditching so much to travel to the entire life wheel.
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>>127861759
Maybe he's scion. One of the SA builds in the ladder was a Scion too.
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>>127861759
you can get 7% on each jew slot
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Guys what would be a good build atm?
Want to restart a new char that is well rounded.
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>>127861932

You can generally get a around 150%-160% life without much extra travel on the right side.

To get the remaining 40-50% you need to take 6-7 jewel sockets and good luck with that on the right side.
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>>127862138
just see how far you get with default attack and go from there
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>>127862187

you need 180% before jewels optimally

this means that if you start ranger, youll need to dip into some duelist life, or if you are shadow, either some witch life or scion wheel. either way its more than doable
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http://strawpoll.me/6479236

G-Guys... Hi.
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>>127862354

I didn't say it wasn't possible, I said you have to give up a lot. Life is stretched thin on that side. My ranger has all the life nodes from duelist to shadow and she only has 153% before jewels.. It'll only be 165% after I get the last 3 less efficient 4% nodes.

No other position in the tree has to travel so far to get high life totals. That is the point I am making, not that it wasn't possible if you wanted to thin out all your other points heavily for life.
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>No lighting fist
>No death wave
>No Voll smash
>No Voll charge

Fun skills when?
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>>127862646
>if you wanted to thin out all your other points heavily for life.

thats the compromise of hc builds, no matter what side/defense choice they have

on sc 140-160% total may be acceptable if your dps can pull you past dangerous shit fast enough
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>>127862832

>No Voll smash
Ice Crash

>No Voll charge
Shield Charge
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>>127862832
>no super slow missiles nova of doom
>no ''Deep one'' pool spamming skill
>no Gull corpse bombardment skill
why live
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>>127862879

Nigga I got 92 (beyond), 90 (bloodlines) in other leagues and currently 87 (HC tali) now with evasion acro builds with 160~% life and no LC's. These builds ARE hc viable.

These characters felt more than safe and were still alive when I stopped playing (I don't play that much which is why I cap out at around 90).
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>>127863225
i bet you've never left t8 maps

you clearly have no idea how hard higher level maps are if you unironically consider eva/acro to be viable
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>>127863303

Two of those characters existed before "tier" maps but I was doing 78s (which were the max then) without hassle friend.

I've already done t10 maps on my new character though I haven't had the best map pool on that one to advance as of yet.
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>>127863225

The thing with evasion characters is that i feel like they end up taking way less damage than armor ones.

With armor once you start getting hits you keep getting hit. With evasion you just get the occasional hit, while moving around.
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>>127863595
Yeah or the ocassional one shot, thats the whole problem with it. With armor you're getting hit, but you can take the hit no matter what. With evasion you might just drop dead for taking that one hit.
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>>127863225
Untill the woops happens, you get a hard hit with a crit. You'll get one shotted. Your build is build around that "99% I won't die" 1% is bound to happen eventually. Shit hits alot harder at T8 and up, no LC as evasion build is def not viable on higher tier maps. Even with LC you need also ToH in some cases to up your mitigation even further.
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>>127863501
What if you get shit like 80% extra damage as lightning or fire damage or some other crazy damage mods? Do you chaos over it? With your builds you probably need to.

Also Armour characters are usually Scion or Marauder which have insane life usually around 7k or more taking damage is ok. Also alot of builds utilize Life Leech together with Life regen making the damage you take less significant and stack that together with block or spell block I could keep going.
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>>127863303
ive done up to t12 fine on an eva char

ive would have done higher but i couldnt get better maps before i ripped to a dumb risk
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>>127863883

All characters can eat a stars align insta rip/rolled the map too hard and get crit one shot.

There is NO character or build that is 100% safe from dying. All you have to do is understand the weakness of your build and play accordingly.
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>>127864085
The chance you get a one shot with having 7,5k life as an armour base character is less likely than getting a one shot as an evasion character with sub 5k life.
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will we get a tree reset for ascendancy?
If I'm a scion summoner, am I fucked over for not choosing witch? (no difference in my build engame)
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so I am a ranger and I want to build DW crit sword ice crash

please don't ask me why I don't play duelist/other better memes

currently my build look like this:

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwIAAAYAXgHcBS0GIAguDY0R1RQgFfYZjiP2JP0oKi5TMHw1kjfUOJZDMUd-Sn1M_02STeNOKlBHUUdW-leXWHVbr18_YEFieWNwZU1vO3SgdO12rHfXd-N4DXlofyuA4YTZhVKHdotPjX2SfZd5mG-bapuNqW6tjbXytxe9Nr6nwBrBBM9-02_Tfti92WHawdwj4l7jn-RR5c_nVOoY7T_tg-4O7w7vevaj9zL8xf6P_94=

my damage is okish but defensive I can only rely with some half assed evasion.

I get ass raped with only 3K health around when I face something can't freeze or hit and run ranged mobs.

anything I can change on the passive tree, beside my shitty gear?
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>>127863881

People keep talking about occasional one shots, and yet whenever im watching videos of one shots, its ussually 3-4 hits that instantly kill people which is 100% prevented by evasion.

I think there are like a handfull of things that can actually one shot you if you have 6k hp with maxed resists.

And the HURRR MUH ONE SHOTS. If you get one shot trough 5-6k hp you would need crazy ammounts of armour to survive, and guess what with like 15k armour getting hit for 6k hp, would mean that you still take like 4.5k dmg. And guess what, with armour that sets you up for a stun that lasts for a few seconds and the mob that hit you for 6k will kill you guaranteed because you cannot evade attacks.

Evasion is superior to armour especially since you have so many dmg reduction buffs in the game, and just thank god there are people like you who still fall for the armour meme because it keeps evasion gear cheaper.
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>>127864051

>With your builds you probably need to.

Wow, it's almost as though you play to the strengths and against the weaknesses of a character!

Do you do BM maps with an aura bot? Do you do no regen with RF? No? Then you don't roll retarded stacked extra damage as evasion because you need to survive that one hit.
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>>127864173
thats why you build eva chars with 6k+ life
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>>127864173

Why are you comparing a fucking 7.5k hp armour char with a 5k evasion char?

Guess what faggot, a 7.5k hp evasion character has a huge chance to not die compared to a 5k hp armour character.

>>127864240

Funny thing, doing high monster crit maps on evasion might be a lot safer than with armour characters. As on super high evasion monsters basically cannot crit you.
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>>127864206
why are you going so far for things you can find near you? unless I'm missing something
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>>127864206
Why not marauder hege crit ice crash? Hege is made for Ice Crash crit, I think it's alot better than goig sword unless you're going to buy some very expensive rare pure phys swords.
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https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwQAAF4A7gUtBbUILgiJFSAZjhm0Go0i4iP2JT8qTSzpLYMuUzBxMHwyATKUNZI31DpCOuE_J0MxR35H4krIS3hNkk3jUUdbJl1oXzlh62KsZU1sjG6qdO11y3pTeu99W311fwJ_-4azivCNfY1-jb-VBZrxmyabLZuNnaqjiqQ5plem4KfUq9KsR7Crshm0xbXyt7a74702vqfC7MSCxKLKqc9602_TftQj2L3ZxtqN2sHdqOjW6UbtP-2D7g7vevJF9qP-Cv6P_rr-yA==

Is this enough dmg? Also what should i change besides swapping the duelist start for ranger start and dropping the 2 duelist starting nodes?
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>free zana guys i'm doing you all such a favor of sharing this wild zana
>get 6 t10+ map drops

:^)
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>>127866357

Player # does not increase map drops m8.
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>>127866450
I still refuse to believe that.
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>>127866552
Would Chris lie?
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>>127866552

Its true, the thing is map drops feel like they come in bursts, you either get nothing or maybe 1 map in a full clear. Or you get showered in maps and get like 5+ maps in a map.
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>>127866684
no
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>>127866881
but he's been caught lying several times

and he always fucks things up on release so he can swoop in and fix it later like a superhero and make more money off the lebbitards
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>>127867073

Nope, not lying, he is straight up retarded, and actually believes what he is saying.
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>Will I be able to enchant corrupted gloves/helm/boots in Ascendancy? Will the Enchantments override the implicits obtainable through corruption or can itens have both?
>Ascendancy enchantments override corruption implicits. This is why we picked gloves/helms/boots, because they don't have corruption implicits as frequently.
right, cúck wilson, because why would anyone ever want +1 frenzy charge or free curse on hit
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dead
guild

Invite me already
PaidToShank
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https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwAA8pfYTZtdlKComtpiWlJ7w2h0GFZKyPnobqo_J7XyKk01kn1bR-IA7v6P2L2sRyLiLOlN4_4KUUykORUgplfyRcpKLYM64V-wGbSbtb6nwzp1y25pZU2J4BmKIuq3tupi1fi9NuZYlwbo1o1-R36TH8SimyYFted0QzFJE7vj35gyARqNjb9tbNrBwzP-umJashlbJlFH1CM2PbVIdO0uU1oaz3p_-z7PN9QwfJ2qVYV2ggUt029h673m7T-NfWyMpcvIDHrvelMj9mKsTZKGs2-e8bNLV8DjhMWwq8SCivDpRg==

Any opinions on this build for MF?
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>>127868257
Forgot to add that its supposed to be caustic arrows taking from here

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1381964/page/1
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>>127868067
>officers
>browsing the thread

lel
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>>127868257
it's okay, there's nothing I would change
you might need some int on jewels for inc aoe/conc? I am not even sure about which links does CA use nowadays
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>>127868802
Guide says this link:
Caustic Arrow, Void Manipulation, Rapid Decay, Increased Area of Effect, Slower Projectiles Empower

Also how do MF builds differ in quality? I was also looking at this one

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwMAAW8EBwceDXwOPA5cEVARlhRxFy8ZihpsGo8bJR1PHaofAiSwJbwnCylPKhMspi0fL280CjW5NsU3ZjeDOlJFfkZxSVFJsUuuTLNV1lfJWOVZ81orXGtcil-wYVJk52ZUZp5oZWr6bRlvnnC7cg9yqX5Zf8aApIMJg7aESITFhmCG0Yt6jHaP-pDWkyeUb5UglS6btZ2unjyhL6Kjo_Km66cIpyusqrQMtzG-isHzwzrDbcpKytPQH9Wm18_YJNkT2Vva3dtP34rfv-DD4Yji9-Qi6QLqGOq67BjvTu-I7-vw1fPd9tr3MvfB-Ov5N_rS-wn-SQ==?accountName=dulahan200&characterName=Brujitasexy

and i dont really know how to decide which one is better?
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>>127868628
>>127868628
Might as well remove the darn guild from OP then
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>>127868943
what the fuck is the second one, it's a completely different thing, looks like an aurabot build but with... ancestral bond?
anyways, on your original CA there's something I would change: hired killer is kinda shit, you can repath through finesse and take the ranger start life instead, and you could also grab druidic rite if you have mana problems
https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwAA8pfYTZtdlKComtpiWlJ7w2h0GFZKyPnobqo_J7XyKk01kkfiAO7-j9i9IuIs6U3j_gqkOYazFSCmV_JFLYP2ozrhGbTver6n0351y25psKtlTX11t7bqYtX4xIK9Nv66jX6K8Ed-u-NDMelGxKLawcMz35iXBnTtLlNaGmJaGYoFLdNvwzp674ngm7Ui6uZYhMXo1pMfmyYFted0SRMyARqNjb9tbLIZWyZRR9QjNj21SM96f_s-zzfUMHydqlWFdoJh673m7T-NfWyMpcvIDHpTI_ZirE2SAF4Zju2DCC4=
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>>127868957
I messaged a guild officer, I hope he sends the invite soon, but they normally don't care much.
From what I've seen, the leader, hashtag, plays like 2 weeks on new leagues and then quits and is not seen for the rest of the league. He also doesn't want to kick inactive people. The officers are either finns who don't give a damn about non-finns or people who no longer browse /poeg/
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>>127869068
Yeah, it's an aurabot build taken from a different forum guide.

basicly i have around 4 ex starting budget and want to make an MF build for t7-t11 maps.

Im looking at the character creation screen now and trying to find a build that looks good so i can pick the respective character and start leveling
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>>127869184
do you have a group to play with and cull or are you going to play alone?
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>>127869251
I'd rather focus on group play and cull for the increased quantity boost of groups.

If playing alone is the better option i'd also go for that.

The second build i linked (the witch) has the problem of using a shav which is too expensive for me atm
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>>127869349
You didn't respond my question, do you already have a group? like friends or guild, if you want to do some kind of aurabot you'll need a reliable team.
Anyways, I might be wrong but I feel like you don't know what you're doing. The itemization for a MF aurabot would be kinda hard since there are a few uniques you need to use for IIQ/IIR that don't have many ES, and getting good ES MF gear would be really expensive.
The CA build you linked first is definitely for solo. But really any build that is not extremely gear reliant can MF; just get the IIQ/IIR gear. A friend of mine did SWT and geared for MF early and had a flame totem linked with IIR and culling for example
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>>127869163

I am an officer, a non-finn and I browse the thread here and there.

I just never browse the thread and play at the same time and I can't be assed loading up the game.

Just get someone to tell you the name of an officer and whisper them when they are online and they'll probably do it.
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>>127869729
I have a couple friends with whom i map on a regular basis.

I really dont know what i'm doing MF build wise, i have only ever played tornado shot, arc and discahrge mjölner.

So basicly i can slap the same IIR/IIQ gear on the CA and the aurabot build, but the difference is that the CA doesnt contribute much to the group except for the culling while the aurabot does but cant solo anything?
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>>127864239
Evasion needs to be paired with enfeeble or acro, armour needs to be paried with fortify or endurance charges. AA and block is always nice. It's as simple as that.
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>>127864206
My eyes hurt
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>>127870062
the problem with CA is that it's not a very party-friendly build because it's based on degen so even if you have very high damage the life modifier from party makes the mobs have much more life, which means you'll kill mobs much more slowly. In general, people who play CA play solo.
I think aurabots are much better if they focus on the aura aspect rather than trying to get MF gear on an aurabot.
If you want to do a party friendly culler, I would suggest going life based support curser: it's much less gear reliant, which means you can fit in more MF uniques and can support the party with both curses, auras, ele equilibrium and charges with conduit.
The tree should look something like this http://poeurl.com/vCT
You would basically use a quill rain to curse and a defensive quiver with resists + life which you will need to cap ele resists. With the tree alone you'll have 2 curses (which you can apply with ice shot GMP CoH, which applies chilled grounds, but you'll need a 5l quill rain), you can get more with either doedre's rings or windscream (or a +1 to curses amulet, but they're rare and expensive) but I'm pretty sure you would rather fill those equipment slots with MF gear. I guess you could use something like greed's embrace for chest, sadima's or aurseize for gloves, goldwyrm for boots, perandus belt, and maybe a goldrims, well rolled ventor's or andvarius for rings, and a golden amulet with IIR. I'm not entirely sure how does MF gear itemization work. For the auras I'd run something like grace and an offensive one, and maybe clarity if you can fit it in. Apply EE with ice shot if your friends aren't doing cold damage, or use AoF instead if they aren't doing fire damage. If there isn't an element they aren't using, then drop EE. Generate charges with a frenzy setup, in fact you can also use it as your culling setup (frenzy GMP IIR culling) and get one or two vaal haste with inc duration
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Guys, help..

I actually want to try out a Zeno build :/
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>>127871070
Thanks, looks like this is a good option.

Speaking of life based builds, ive come across this one, its kind of a mix between solo and group play:

https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwUBBAcEswYOCaoJ9g3NEFgQzBEtFCAaOBzOHNwfAicvJ-0qEytQLJwyNDLRNZI6WDrYPC09D0VHRZ1G10rITLNN41BHU1JVxljlWfNaK15dXz9j_WZUZp5nm26qbztxhXIPdhF4DXrmeyB7w3yDfLuCm4Nfg8yD24V7h2WKr4uMjxqQEZBVmjua4KIAo_KmV6eUrj6vp6-3sUK18rc-wBrAZsCaxPbGrtAf0f3UfNWm2L3Z_Nq54XPkUevu7DjtPO8O7-vwH_iT-d3-Cv5U_of-jzrh

This is the guide, it doesnt use exessivly expensive gear and seems to perform well

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1482597
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Anyone wanna run some pretty nice gorges with me. I hate to have these maps go to waste on just me. ign Hustleboner
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>>127871808
also, I'm texas or dc server.
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>>127871070
how would you go about leveling a culler/curser like this?
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>>127871808
I think I'm gonna onslaught them.
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>>127871895
which league
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>>127872083
Hardcore taliwacker
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Only nice builds please!
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>>127871531
IMHO incinerate totems don't look as good as they did in 2.0, as incinerate was heavily nerfed, so I'd rather do a similar build but using flame totems instead. This build doesn't have huge clear speed, but it's pretty solid, cheap and not gear reliant, so you can fit in your MF uniques http://poeurl.com/vCZ, I made a new tree because the one from the guide was shit. The links would be something like flame totem - fire penetration - faster projectiles - controled destruction - faster casting - iron will. The only problem is getting enough dex to use a high level faster projectiles, since we're not grabbing any projectile speed from tree (it's on the opposite side of it). I would also use a wand with projectile speed, spell damage, added fire to spells and cast speed.
>>127871896
I'd personally level it with either cyclone and trying to get into the duelist area without spending many nodes or flame totem and getting into the templar area. You might need additional regret points though, the ones from the quests might not be enough
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>>127870523

Evasion is naturall to be paired with acro because its just convinient if you are in that part of the tree.

You can just as easy pick up fortify on evasion as you can pick up endurance charges (at least the base 4).

Enfeeble is as just better on eva compared to armour, armour uses and requires it as well. I mean you have way more defensive options as evasion compared to armour.
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>>127872281
Do you not use the IIR and IIQ gems in the links?
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>>127872363
oh yeah I forgot about those. Well, I assumed you were on a temp league so no IIQ gem. I am not sure what is the optimal option for MFing, if you're only going to cull rares, uniques and bosses I'd rather get a separate setup like flame totem - culling - IIR (- IIQ?), but if you want to use it on the main links I'd go for something like FT - IIR - firepen - faster proj - CD - (IIQ? or faster casting)
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>>127872363

IIQ gem

M8... pls m8
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>>127847449
>>127847547
>>127847741
>>127847886
ilu guys
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https://gamesdonequick.com/tracker/bid/3698

lel kek xd
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>>127873337
I heard ChrisWilson on the announcer but wasn't really paying attention and didn't know it was related to this.
OHHHH this should be fun.
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>>127872515
CD is controlled destruction?
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>>127873994
yes
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Wanna sell my voltaxic, dont wanna set up a shop or talk to anyone.

Just neet problems
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tfw dying a stupid, clueless, shitter death in merc dried lake while leveling
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What do you think of my tree for Soul Taker /poeg/?
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwEAKCqLT5d56hjZfIIH73yf3zwFGJG8n9rBOlJfP64-hmDG2LhHe4zkUSmldPER1WBBV5djcGebC2HsOITZZlR07XrvBS3Tby5T8kX-Cv6POuGmV03jNZLYve9Or2w9_IzP9khHfmVNvTZVqZe0agFAoFhjgpuaO5HOu-1oZfPdOtgaOCcvkFWFe_cyxq5hUloawzM8LYNfg8z468VTSHjcMgU8xPavp1BHFCDvDjrtwYvT_DXvgUHbpwlYdqzPfiFgDjzAZhRxHM4NzStQ_lRyqZOoirNXVKIA8B8Es7c-vqdo8l4TQzEAAAAA

Highlights:
>245% life
>5.4% life regen
>2.2% life leech so we dont need a life leech gem
>around 24% block
>str, life and gear included a base life around 2310 x 3.45 = 7969 life at lv90
>Iron Reflex combined with grace shpuld put out aroumd 15k armour atleast

With 4 Endurance + Enfeeble + Fortitide + 24% block + 15k armour should be enough to tank all the donkey monkeys if i need more defense ill pop a granite or ToH for bosses.

Any other suggestions?
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>>127878358
elementalist is a shit node, specially for melee phys
also care to explain what do you plan to dual wield? blade barrier is kinda shit, rampart is not extremely good
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https://soundcloud.com/couchtruthing/vote-for-trump

MAKE WRAECLAST GREAT AGAIN
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>>127878358

drop all the armour you can and just go end charges
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>>127878567
>elementalist is a shit node
can we please stop with this meme
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i really really like this general
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>>127878818
okay, I'd say it could be passable for a caster/elemental based build, but for a melee phys build it's quite bad.
The worst thing about elementalist is the 8% nodes surrounding it, you're just wasting points traveling through them
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>>127851187
>killing fun

Future is looking bright lads
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>>127878358

drop armour
get 6 endurance charges
go attack damage leech instead pf straight phys
play around with ir and grace maybe evade is better or it's only needed for like vuln maps so you drop hoa or something. if you have the stats aa will be a good option to have as well
rampart is not worth if you do the maths
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>>127878358
also unyielding is kinda poop if you don't invest properly in armor
148% is kinda low
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>>127879062
They need to nerf parties. If someone wants to run vaal spark they should have to run through the map twice to even the playing field. Loot bitches are op.
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>>127878567
I played around with Soul Taker already, I forgot to include RT, but without RT crit chance was only 5%. The chance to freeze is noticeable from Elementatlist every now and then I break mobs into scraps of ice.

>>127878567
Because Soul Taker doesn't have that high phys damage. A good rare one-hander can reach way higher phys damage. Last night I was able to craft a pretty amazing flat phys DPS one-hander (i84 btw) with 360ish DPS after like 3k Alterations I was about to give up then bam!

The Blade Barier + Ambidex seems pretty standard like every dualwield build has it so I figured it's good enough. I'm not sure what other DPS increase i can get. I want to use a sword in main hand so i can utilize Whirling Blade, it kinda sucks playing a melee without Whirling Blades.

>>127878739
>>127879175
Only armour nodes I grabbed is Unyielding, isn't the -20% critical damage taken worth grabbing them? Even if i get rid of that cluster it frees up 3 points getting 2 endurance charges requires 4 points, but could settle for another endurance charge at the very least.

>>127879175
Starting either as Scion or Marauder so won't have as much evasion as a Ranger. Using stuff as Lightning Coil and Devoto's Devotion will greatly benefit from IR. Devotion alone will net a flat 1,1k armour for a helmet if I have IR.
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>>127880638

> Last night I was able to craft a pretty amazing flat phys DPS one-hander (i84 btw) with 360ish DPS after like 3k Alterations

I bought 430+ dps 1h swords last league for less than those alterations cost you wtf man
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>>127879062
Every build that is stronger than mine should be nerfed
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>>127880638
see how ir and evasion with grace go endgame, it might just be nice to scary maps with vuln or some other mod i can't think of.
you don't have enough armour for it to matter. endcharges and aa will be much better. just drop all the armour
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>>127880741
It's a flat phys 1-hander not hybrid with elemental damage. They are pretty expensive I could sell it for atleast 5-6ex on THC. Even on standard pure phys sword is fairly expensive and there arent many that are around 400 DPS. Go look on standard league, I can't find a single pure phys sword that's above 360 dps and ranging in the 30-40 exalts. Lastly 3k alts is only 3 exalts.

>>127880838
Will play around with it and test how it turns out.
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>>127881204

>Lastly 3k alts is only 3 exalts.

I paid like 1.5ex~ each for 420 pdps swords in Tempest. I guess the price has gone way up.
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>>127881204
>Go look on standard league, I can't find a single pure phys sword that's above 360 dps and ranging in the 30-40 exalts
I'm seeing a handful of 350+ pDPS 1h weapons at 8-10 ex, not 30+.
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>>127881427
Yeah, pure phys swords are very expensive right now on THC as well as in the Standard permanent league. I haven't played a dual wield since awakening so I wouldn't know how much they were before.
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>>127881493
http://poe.trade/search/areduogoramero

>346 DPS 10ex but kinda meh APS
>350 DPS 50ex
>355 DPS 35ex
>391 DPS 50ex
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Exiles, are there any perma standart newbee friendly guilds for me and maybe my bro? Just came back in game from 1.8 and was kicked from some 30ppl shit
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>>127881660
You can also compare standard prices with like pure phys harbinger bows which are also around the 20-30ex range
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>>127881660
>>127881780
I must apologize, I was looking at standard talisman, of which there are indeed a few 350+ pdps 1h for less than 10 ex.

http://poe.trade/search/irahikikeniiza
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>>127881857
>http://poe.trade/search/irahikikeniiza
Swords are more popular because you can Whirling Blades with Sword, Dagger, Claws but not with axes. There's lower demand for phys axes that's why the price for like a 350+ axe isn't as high as a sword.
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Is /poeg/ going to watch the diablo speedruns at agdq in an hr for some nostalgia?
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>>127882519
And there's a sword listed there with 357 pdps for 8 ex.
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>>127882636
You're looking at Normal Talisman not Permanent standard...
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nooooooo!
Chris Wilson might lose the bid war on diablo!
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>>127884110
The french restream dude donated $666 out of his 5k donation to the filename
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Ok guys, I am an arc witch with ~4/5 exalts worth of currency right now.
What's the best next upgrade for me between those 3 choices:

-Void battery for 5ex
-Tabula rasa with +1 to gems as well as empower for 8 chains
-Waiting for a 4B1G Lightning Coil to be sold for a decent price?
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>>127884407
>considering tabula instead of cloak of flame
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>>127884610
I am considering Tabula because it gives me an easy 8th chain for my arc without the need of chancing a lvl 21 arc. It's also a fairly cheap 6L.
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>>127884407
>4B1G coil
>not using cloak of reliance

Why?
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>>127886192
I am pretty sure you are memeing right now but how is that better than a coil?
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>>127886556
Because you're trying to get a 4 off colour coil when you can get mitigation from a cloak that costs 1c
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>>127887072
But a 5L Defiance still costs 1ex.
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>>127887284
>cloak of defiance
>same as cloak of reliance

I am pretty sure you are memeing right now
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>>127857196
what are your links anon ? im also playing cast on crit and have a level 20 bladefall from levelling
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>>127887407
Same question applies for Cloak of Flame if that's what you meant then. And the only one available is still at 55c.
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I just played some Grim Dawn, and in that game was a based Shaman of many lightning strikes

How can I achieve a WIIIIIIINDS build in this game? Preferably melee.
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>tfw not sure if I wanna roll crit EK or block EK or a mix of two
end my suffering
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>>127887675
Just 6 link it yourself, and sell 5 links

People buy them
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Miss Nuro "Fishfox"

Donation: $2,051.34

"The Dread Thicket is always 50%."

BWAHAHHAHA OK WHO WAS IT??
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>>127888809
>Just 6 link it yourself
I don't feel like ruining myself but thanks for the suggestion I guess.
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>>127888849
i dont get it
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>>127888849
Should've fucking done it for d1, we already had the d2 filename on lock
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>>127889025
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is this game good now? i want:

>less dull as fuck animations
>less dull as fuck sounds
>no desync
>respec, even if it costs a lot
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top kek, the runner is wearing a chainmail shirt, and a guy on the couch is weating a Poe Shirt.
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>>127889578

If ur'r shit the game is shit
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>>127889783
so is that a no
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>>127889578
>less dull as fuck animations
>less dull as fuck sounds
>>>/diablo/
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Are necromancer builds good?
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why are poetards shitting up the speedrun with their epic memes?
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>>127889894
alright, i'll go play a better game, thanks for the recommendation anon!
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My hardcore minion spammer just ate a dick in act 3.

Fuck playing normal mode, whats a fun Melee build?
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>>127890118
Flicker strike. Dual strike. Reave. Prolif glacial hammer
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>>127890212
I like it, duelist start into iron reflexes?
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>>127890505
Which one do you like? I don't even know if prolif glacial hammer works anymore
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>>127891046
I assumed you meant to use those skills all in tandem
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why are you ugys even playing hc for this game?
Like, I totally understnd the trill, but I just got lagged the fuck out by the servers for no reason and died with things not even moving on the screen. I would have been mad if this was hc.
Also I saw a friend turn is graphics to toaster-runescape level so he would play with the least lag possible. okay...
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>>127891216
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Tasty freeze?

https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwMBBUINfBBYEQ8RUBSwF1Qc3B1PHaod2R8YH8cgbiKBJNgo-ipTK3gsnC2LMjQ1uTeBOlg7DUGWQ1REq0WdRnFJUUmxTC1Ms1AwUEJRdFH7UilSslM1U1JT1FRHVa5VxlXgVkpXyVhaXGtd8l8qYpVtGXC7dFV-x3_GghCCHoRIhTKFbYhCjDaNgo48jumPGo9Gj6aP-pMnlQSVLpitmuCboZ2unqGexJ8BoS-io6aZpr6nCKcrrJius6-bsnC0DLiTvorBxcNtytPNFtDQ0eTVgdfP2CTbXt-w4YjjVuTr5Yvr5Ovu7BjviO_r8NX31_k3-dv-SQ==
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>>127891179
....

at most you could use two, flicker strike+something else
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>>127891216
people bitch and moan about technical issues but personally ive only lost 2 characters to issues out my control, playing since closed beta, and they were both to desync, which is gone now
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>>127891324
what?
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playing memefeathers build
i have too much attack speed, my poachers mark can't keep up with the cyclone anymore.
Which mana node should I get poeg, i already have primal spirit, so the choice stands between essence sap cluster or mana flows.
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>>127891597
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>>127891781
essence sap
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>>127891892
yeah it's probably best. Why i considered mana flows is because it's just two points, mana regen is amazing and the +int is good. But essence sap might sustain my mana better. will get that after I socket my sweet ass jewel.
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>need 200m xp to lvl my gem from 19 to 20
>character is lvl 84
>only needs 100m
ok.
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>>127892802
and? Do you think getting your gem maxed should be EASY ?
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>>127892802
lvl 20 gems is luxury shit
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So is Ascendancy going to be a new act, with more story progression and world building end exposition, or is this labyrinth thing just like a new side-area/side-feature?

It kind of sounds like this is just a new challenge area or whatever off to the side, and not what we find after we exit the beast.

Did they even end up completing that beast escape scenario they wanted to add in, after we kill Malachai or did they forget about that?
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>>127893910
no, still 4 acts for ascendancy. The thing about ascendancy is "subclasses" more or less
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>>127893145
Eh, doesn't seem that much of a luxury considering you can buy a lot of corrupted lvl 20 gems for less than 10 chaos. Granted they are corrupted but it doesn't really matter if you're not going to try vaal'ing it yourself anyway.
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>nobody even talking about the d2 run

fucking reddit shitters
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>>127894202
what do you want to hear us say about it friend
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>>127887849
anything lightining crit based with HoT
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something about finns and genocide
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>>127894202
I like nova
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friendly reminder to buy your jewels from poetrade, dont roll them yourself
i bought two jewels with double res, high area damage, high melee physand attack speed for 3c a piece. Great dps boost on both, and resitances I need. Rolling your owns and regal them is terrible, i used to do that before but it's super easy to search for good jewels on poetrade
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>>127894939
>jewels without life
they're trash, no wonder you got them for 3c
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>>127894764
B A S E D
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>>127894939
>buying gems without life
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just dropped a voltaxic, do I sell or keep for reroll?
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>>127895250
sell
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>>127895250

if you dont like bow chars/builds, sell it. it can get you one or two top tier upgrades for your current build
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>>127895021
>>127895059
yeah, it's on sc
but my hc tree got like 180% life on tree, i can live without 7% jewels and get dps instead.
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>>127895473
The last time I played with a bow, TS was king. Is LA worth it to try something new or is TS still superior?
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is there a mod for torchlight that adds discharge to the game? :^)
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>>127895906

people say LA is good and TS is ass now but ive no experience with either this league, however, ice shot is excellent and im running a voltaxic blast rain and it has pretty good clearing (currintly doing t6-t7s), and single target is better than any other bow skill ive used recently
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>>127895679
>only 180%
>thinking he doesn't need 7% on every single jewel

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>>127896248
why tho
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Path of Exile
It's kinda like an updated version of Diablo 2
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>>127896630
you arent supposed to play that game without synergies you dum nignog
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>>127896854
why tho
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If I'm running Iron Reflexes and my physical damage reduction is only at 35%, should I just drop it altogether and go for Acrobatics?
Is IR even viable without Grace?
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>>127896386
le shockwave totem
just stand back and enjoy the show
im level 84, not dead yet :^)
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>>127896915
With pure evasion gear and IR you can easily get double the armour than if you had pure armour gear.
A great armour chest has 1500+ armour while a good evasion chest can hit 2k+ easily.
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>>127897105
Hmm yeah I guess I should get a better chest. I'm using a 600 armor 500 evas hybrid chest just because it was the best 5L I could find. What about acrobatics though?
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>>127896890

adds an "adventure mode with crafting hub", an endgame, adds stat-based scaling to previously fixed damage skills, more hero monster, champion monsters, several endgame sets, etc

in general it improves the game
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>>127897432
acrobatics is very nice until you get that one big hit. Make sure you use taste of hate/lightning coil or some kind of mitigation paired with high hp
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>>127897432
>What about acrobatics though?

dont go into acro unless you are full eva (no eva/armor), and unless you have some other mitigation layers planned for your build
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Sell or use?
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>>127898573
sell
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I just vaaled a tabula rasa i found and it rolled +1 level of socketed gems.

Do i keep this or sell it for the 3 ex i can prolly get out of it?
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>>127899741
its not worth more than 5c

whats your ign?
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>>127888849
some reddit furry

>>127889578
>implying
>implying
>check
>check
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>>127899992
:^)
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>>127899741
i'll offer 6c

whats your ign?
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>>127899741
7c

final offer

ill throw in 2 necropolis maps
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>>127900510
40c here
ign: fuccboi124
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>>127899741
i'll pay 1.5ex

ign: krippers
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>>127899741
ok, 2ex but no more.

ign: fuccboi124
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>>127899741
420 ex offer from me d:^)
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How are your troves coming along, /poeg/?
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I just started for this season, got to 71, only did a few maps mostly just dried lake farming though.

I just realized I haven't found Vorici even once. What the shit? Am I bring stupid or just unlucky? Is there an area where he spawns more often?
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>>127891216
There is a reason babycore exists for the scrubby players like you who feel hc is too intimidating :)
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>>127902817
generally begins since a3 normal I think
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I was thinking about making a ele bow crit build, I guess most people go for windripper, but I checked it up and there are harbingers with +200edps and good crit which are way cheaper than windrippers, what are the advantages of going windripper other than the IIQ/IIR? is it the higher APS windripper has?
also, pls r8 my tree http://poeurl.com/vDH
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>still no cellphone app for trading or even for trading request notifications
>still losing 1-2 ex a day on missed trades

mfw
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>>127903656
probably too much mana leech

no frenzy charges

fine survivability but might be ass for damage
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>>127904159
how would I even generate frenzy charges
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>>127903656
map drops
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Haven't played since open beta
Is desync still a problem
Are duelists still shit
Did they ever make pants
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>>127905229
>Is desync still a problem
not as long as you have a good connection, they introduced a new type of protocol named lockstep which fixes desync but if you have latency the game feels choppy
>Are duelists still shit
still not optimal for anything, but ascendancy will probably fix that
>Did they ever make pants
no
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>>127905369
I didn't expect a reply so quickly, thanks
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new guild when
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>>127904259
blood dance
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>>127904259
Frenzy dipshit, you're on a bow build
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sell vaal spark jewels n shit or play it for another week or two?
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>>127907952

GGG announced they are nerfing them so its close to worthless now. ill give you 5c and 230 wisdom scrolls for them. whats your ign?
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>>127908208
no fuck off, everything is worth the exact same and might even go up the last few weeks of the build's life.

have a couple of sacrificial harvests, a chill, a call of the brotherhood. think i might play it another few days.
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>>127908404
5c+230wisdom and a bricked goldrim (still looks like goldrim when you put it on). thats my last offer
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>>127908991
ok. i have an atziri's reign for that price. pretty good piece of vaal spark gear, you'll be op man.
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>>127908991
the fuck can goldrim even vaal if it rolls well?
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rmt
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>>127903714
>cellphone app for trading
wow i could shitpost people irl through the game and buzz phones like mad
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Is there a new temp league for ascendancy?
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>>127912531
fucking retard spoiler that shit
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>>127912531

>5312x2988

Nice fucking job, Soda.
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>get all my rigwald armor pieces
>sell all my unneeded stuff for 7000 forum gold
>just chilling to sell my equipped gear for an extra few thousand forum gold


Good to know this game is only worth playing for 2-3 weeks every 4 months, now we get jack shit until june when ascendancy comes.

Guess I'll just stick to diablo 3 season 5 on Tuesday.

>b-b-b-but it comes out after the 3 month leagues!!!

kek, enjoy having another 1 month flashback league and another 1 month shitty event because the expansion isn't ready yet.
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Lv 80 totem witch
How can I improve my damage?
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Hello, I was pointed to this game because I wanted to play a game with a poison/plague class theme.

I imagine Shadow or Witch would be what I would go for, but which one gives me more poisons and similar themes to work with?
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>>127913590
>he doesn't do chaos damage
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/poor/ here. how to acquire lods emone?

inb4 rmt
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>>127913605
get the fuck out of my general
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>>127913590
your cast speed is weak as shit

even mediocre cast speed on a wand/jews would bump you a lot
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>>127913680
>>127914358
Should I buy another apep's rage or?
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>>127914087
ur'r a jk
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>>127914087
you could try sucking dicks in the alley behind Leo
and use that money to rmt
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>>127913605
shadow has all the poison shit near

but witch and ranger can dip in to it easily enough

it really repends on what skill you want to use and defensive setup
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>>127913605
shadow is probably more poison themed and it's probably the better option.
Right now, there are four main branches of poison characters:
-Essence drain + contagion: Essence drain is a projectile that applies a damage over time. If you apply contagion, the enemy spreads the essence drain effect on death. This build is cheap
-Fire to chaos conversion, with a dagger that makes your chaos damage poison. Some people even dual wield it with another dagger that makes the poison spread on enemy death. This is pretty expensive
-Lightning to chaos with a bow named voltaxic rift. With either a poison gem or snakebites, your chaos damage can both poison and shock. This is expensive as well but maybe not as much
-Physical poison: you use physical spells or attacks that poison. One of the most popular builds of this type is bladefall trap, which throws traps that deal massive damage and inflict poison, but there are also shit like using the dagger which spreads the poison and using a bear trap with massive single target damage which spreads and multiplies
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>STR gives damage % and health
>INT gives energy shield % and mana
>DEX gives accuracy and evasion %

>STR side of the tree gives Resolute Strikes so you don't need accuracy
>Iron Reflexes exist

For what purpose is there to DEX when it gives
>shit survivability that's not Life or ES
>accuracy - implying anyone cares about this, especially when spells can't miss
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>>127914628
>poison voltaxic

the high variance in lightining damage pre-conversion makes iffy for poison imo

its better to just go raw chaos damage
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>>127915015
>spells can't miss

yet
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>>127915028
yeah, well, might be a downside
apparently I heard that LA with chain was applying a lot of hits which means a lot of poison stacks, but I am not sure, I haven't personally tested it.
I just wanted to mention some of the most common poison builds
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what if someone held the GGG devs are gunpoint, leaked the source code and server files so people could mod the game into private servers and fix everything for them

fund it pls
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>>127915015
>accuracy - implying anyone cares about this
what is crit?
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I tested this meme a few days ago and it was awful
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>>127918310
are you surprised?
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>>127918310
seeing your flasks and the links, it seems you just didnt build it right cuz of badness
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>>127918943
ok genius tell me how would you build it
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i need somebody to do low maps with, talisman is losing it's novelty
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>>127919468
you arent using rapid decay, you are low level (seeing how your blasphemy has small aoe and low life), 1h+shield isnt a searing touch, and we cant see your jewels but you may not have 50% totem on them
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>>127920181
well I didn't get to develop it further, my investment was really low (I wasn't encouraged to buy even a searing touch which is cheap basically because I dropped the build really early), but the problem wasn't really it's damage the problem is that the enemies just move constantly so you have to recast it multiple times to finish a pack.
It wasn't really that bad, it was just not good. I played SWT earlier that league and it was much better.
I just expected it to perform well without much investment like old searing bond, and it did not
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>First Uber Atziri kill on HC Talisman
>get to vaal bosses
>exit to log in screen
>close video
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>>127920729

dunno if you are using EE either since its not seen applied in your screenie, but yeah it takes some investment for it to be good. and then its never really close to the current fotm skills in clear speed
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>>127921086
the only way to apply EE with ancestral bond would be traps, and it would be a pain in the ass
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What are the best skills to compement a cyclone build right now?
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>>127921208
gmp chain lightining trap isnt bad at all for the job.
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>>127898573

Sell.

Fuck that flask. It is only worth using if you are a dedicated wet-noodle Group Culler.
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>>127898573
Pretty nice for Dried lake farming. grab a ventor's and sadima and watch the loot explode.
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>>127922878
Why use Culling Strike when Explosive Arrow has it built in?
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So does everyone only play standard/HC or THC? No one in TSC ? ;-;
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>items literally make or break a build

>>>good game design
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>>127923303
Its like 20% THC
55% TSC
24% SC
1% HC
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>>127923303
I'm in TSC.
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>>127921497
>lightning trap
>chain

Is this "I dont know what I'm talking about:101" ?
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just hit 87 and still havent found a carto box what the fug
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>>127924959
Welcome to the improved mapping experience
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>>127924515
do you teach that course?
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so what's mapping exactly

you just go through maps to get drops and better maps?
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>>127925937
Welcome to the mapping experience
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so...how much time will it approximately take to get through normal and cruel with a decent currency wallet in THC? Also, any build recommendations for new character?
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oh wow the standard league finally reaches that point - chaos orb = useless currency. you can't buy shit with chaos, you can only buy shit with ex. people are constantly trying to get rid their shitty chaos for other currencies.

good fucking job bro I only got 1 ex time to RMT
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>Guy selling Unique Barrel for the challenge in Global
>Buy for 3c
>Clear it for him as well
>Get Consuming Dark

Woo
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>>127926102
>standard league
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>>127926079
4 hours
Dual Chaos Crit Poison Magma Orb Totems
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>>127926319
>standard is bad meme
other than the legacy cancer(because devs forget what does BALANCING means) things are well developed and not a ghost town. and I don't want my shit gone every few months
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>>127926472

4 hours for both? How do I do get through so damn fast? It took me a shit ton of time to finish in Merciless, that being said the character that ripped was my first character to ever hit Merciless. (played 2 years ago before i actually got a little bit more serious this time)

And what build is it that you refer to? Really can't make use of the words except for the totems.
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does anyone have any general/personal guidelines for pricing shit on hc? played sc for the longest time but i hate how you cant sell decent items after a few weeks in a new league because everyone wants top tier shit
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better arpg when

someone ask agdg to maek gaem
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>>127927264
20c
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>>127926959
Oh, youre actually new?

4 hours isnt going to be attainable for you until you just get used to leveling. There are a number of tells for zones that tell you what way to go. Youll also need to learn what is worth stopping to kill and exactly what each mob is capable of.

As far as gear goes id put Wanderlust/Goldrim/Tabula Rasa/Lifesprig/Night's Hold Talisman(R or B socket) on the shopping list.

If youre going to level an melee youll need a Limbsplit and a Geofris Baptism. Once you get to the mid 30s I would search for some decent rares of the weapon your build will be using.

For bows you just kinda pick a skill and put on a deaths harp.

That should be a basic overview, if you need more there are a million guides out there about leveling.
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How are summoners for Atziri?
Just started one and its pretty fun.
Entering cruel atm, hoping it stays safe long enough.
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>>127927789
>agdg
>making anything playable
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How do I make Acquisition to recognize the character I have logged in?
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>>127929725
animate weapon and srs are good, rest is shit
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>>127931515
You dont, but its not a big deal.
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Duelist area has been changed so many times, will ascendancy finally revive this class?
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>>127932163
its a melee class in a spell/ranged game. kind of hard to revive.
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>>127932282
you're a melee class

faggot
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>>127932163
Yes
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>>127932875
looking forward to all the ascendancy trees getting nerfed weeks before release
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>>127933020
Its either that or they just buff the rest of the game.

But yeah, some of the trees are completely broken no matter how you look at it.
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>>127931967
Why is trading so stupid difficult in this game?
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>>127933402
How is it difficult?

You search for the stats you need, find an item you like and click the whisper button.

If theyre afk or offline you move to the next one, youre only one step away from an auction house.
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>>127924959
I found my first one at 89

at Dried Lake ;^)

At least I got the god damn challenge.
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why hasn't ggg made it so you actually see the damage you're doing in the tooltip instead of seeing a wrong number

literally retarded chris wilson you piece of shit
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>>127933525
Why are you justifying the lack of an auction system?
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>want to buy a 6l item
>ask some faggot if he is interested in my item plus a couple chaos
>refuses
>stop playing for weeks
>come back and the faggot still hasn't sold his fucking item for a bajillion exalts
>ask if he is interested
>"noty"
:^)
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>>127935619
>being poor and bad
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>>127935553
Im not, you said it was stupid difficult and I showed you its only slightly harder than using an auction house.

I actually prefer the auction house system and wish PoE has something similar, but its unlikely Chris will ever cave.
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>>127935619
Dont try to trade items.

The last thing that somebody selling an item wants is to have to sell another item to get their profits.

Youre probably the same fucking guy who tries to give me an inventory full of vendor uniques and some gcps/regrets for my items
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how far will silverbranch carry me on autistic arrow

is it okay untill +2 or am i g onna have a bad time
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>>127938025
+2 bows are laterally 1c
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Spec into Acro and Phase, what would be more reliable against bosses:
Hyrri's Ire + Arctic Armor
or
Lightning Coil + Purity of Lightning?

The main skill is CA, so pretty easy to try do dodge from hits and slams.
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>>127938418
that's not the question nigger
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How do I find somebody to nolife this game with me?
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>>127938478
Lightning Coil+AA

Adding more evasion doesnt help prevent you from getting 1shot
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>>127938503
Its shit until 31/38
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>>127939171
you have a few options
1. join the guild
2. join the discord group
3. go to reddit
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>>127940332
Nobody invites for the guild, what's the discord info?
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>>127936041
i've bought a 6L many times by trading my 5L + currency

it will be a lot easier to find someone who can afford a 5L than it will be to find someone who can afford a 6L
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>>127940981
Pm vowel for standard guild
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>>127941154
Fuck off vowel nobody plays standard
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>>127940981
https://discord.gg/0YDYbTjSD4nRmCB7
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>tfw made it to maps on my first hc char

:)
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queen of the forest is ~~fun~~
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>>127943259
absolute madman
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>>127943259
I hope you rip :D
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>>127943423
GULP
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>>127943259
grats! now it's time to farm the dried lake :)
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>>127943535
D:
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>>127943550
indeed, i have like a 100% uptime on quicksilver and evasion flask thanks to primal spirit and poachers mark
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>>127943423
I never understood why people stopped taking Phase Acro. Its probably one of the strongest keystones in the game and youre already right next to it. It also helps smooth out the scariest type of damage for an evasion based character.

Did some streamer decide to not pick it up and then suddenly everyone though it was a pile of shit that should never be picked up?
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>>127944606
10 dodge and 30 spelldodge for 4 points is pure preference

when you only have so many points you have to make sacrifices and spell damage can be countered in other ways

phase acro isn't bad or anything but 4 points is a lot
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>>127944606
it's coming, dont't worry. I just felt like charges and some jewels were more important. I have atziri step for spell dodge. But yeah, i'm lvl 72 atm, phase acro is right after i finish up the shadow frenzy
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>>127944928
What exactly are you using to counter Physical Spell Damage? Even after LC+ToH I still want these nodes, and before those items I consider them mandatory.

I just cant see anything beating 2.5% dodge and 7.5% Spell Dodge per point besides health, and there are only so many health nodes you can pick up in a build.
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>>127943423
post your dps or a video
I want to see if you actually do damage
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>>127945304
movement

vickas is annoying as fuck but what other phys spells are you actually getting hit by
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brety gud :D
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>>127943423
Does the -50 damage taken from animals really do anything? I accidentally 6-linked a Queen this league and it worked alright, its no Lightning Coil, but I didn't exactly have 20ex lying around for it.
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>>127945701
><GULP>
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>>127945701
:^)
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what do i do with this kaoms heart and exalt i found in tsc ;_;
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>>127945784
any projectpt build
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>>127945701
>going to all this trouble to fake a trove for a shitty mexican image board
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>>127945415
this is what it looks like most of the time, since, as mentioned, iget flask charges all the time
and i kill monsters fast as hell since i move from pack to pack in half a second, so blood rage and frenzys a up always
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>>127943259
grats bro
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>>127946279
>iget flask charges all the time

how? you don't have any crit.
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>>127946002
Mings is a survivability increase if you consider reflect, and do you actually think anyone is wearing that belt?
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>>127946346
poachers mark and primal spirit
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>>127946440
Mings is the best choice there, but why Apeps Rage? Sure Bladefall has 120% effectiveness and scales well, but spell damage/spell crit is much much stronger especially since you can scale it with mings/hatred
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>>127946573
I decided to play it non-crit after playing crit builds for years.

Apeps is actually outperforming an 80% spell 15% cast wand, and its hard to find anything better than that on THC right now.
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>>127946573
Whats your BV setup? I'm playing CoC Cyclone and i noticed you had BV up.

CWDT+BV??

Also, if you're not using BV, you should consider BV+CWDT+CoH+Poachers/Warlords Mark.

BV+CWDT+Blind works just as well
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>>127946715
If you dropped Apeps for something else, you could probably lose the mana flask and run an Atziris flask which is arguably better for defense, damage/gameplay and utility (chaos res+leech).

Wands can also roll +added X onto spells so think about that.
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there are people right now not using darresso's defiance + cwdt + ic + id
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>>127946947
Youre probably right, I picked it up early on and got attached to it. The mana flask is just there for group play though, I can keep up Vaal Clarity permanently when im solo.
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>>127946989
uhh

Warlords Mark is better.

So yeah.

CWDT+BV+Curse on Hit+Warlords Mark as Cyclone is god tier
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>>127947208
You could also keep up Vaal Haste indefinitely instead probably.
Always strive for more damage.
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>>127947378
>Always strive for more damage.
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>>127947223
Dude what?

where's your immortal call at? Don't tell me you self cast that shit
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>>127947459
>>127947208
well, if you can't clear t10+ maps efficiently you're not gonna hit level 100

having to GULP GULP GULP all the way to 100 must be hell
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>>127947378
I would be using a mana flask then, I only have 39 mana per second.

Bladefall is so retarded I can cut out damage and clear just fine. I also think Vaal Clarity is underrated and you can do some cool things with it.
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>>127947608
>well, if you can't clear t10+ maps efficiently you're not gonna hit level 100

please post your 100s
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>>127947595
CWDT duh.

Daressos is still shit though.
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https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwMBAuMEswagB6ULYQ48EMwRLRRxGS4aOBo-Jy8n7SkuLJwspzLRNZI62DwtRUdJskrEVw1Y5VnzWiteXV8_ZIRmnmjybqpyD3sgfIN8uIIHghCCm4Nfg8yQVZo7ogCj8qeUr2y18rc-wGbDE8T2xq7R_dIh1abYvdlh2XzfsN-_4XPr7uw47TzwH_Gs8kH2rviT-b3-Cv6H

I have 25 points and 24 refund points.

How would you convert this Flame Totem build or change it into anything. I have enough to spec out of totem shit.
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>>127947789
Why? That's not how it works. If anything, you should post someone who got to level 100 without doing T10+ maps.
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>>127947989
>>
>potions not classified as regeneration

Should have figued. Not sure why I though potions counted as regeneration. Zealot's Oath even worth taking?
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>>127948164
burden of proof always falls on the one making claims
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>>127948283
This is false. Don't mistake proving somebody wrong for negative proof.
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>die in a map
>try to get back to hideout
>failed gto join instance because: disconnected from server
>go to town
>go back to ho
>portals are gone
what the fuck ggg
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>>127948283
Well, I can post accounts of people who have gotten to level 100 exclusively doing T10+ maps.

Probably a better sample size too.
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>>127948283
>i regurgitate things i hear on reddit with no real idea how arguing works
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>>127948476
did you forget you were in hardcore
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>>127948256
get out shitter. read the op next time
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>>127948445
false. Dong for negative prong for negative proof.on't mis is istake proof.wron't mistake proof.g for nega
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>>127849013
That "I just woke up" Tabula Rasa look ^
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how long can i abuse night's hold + FT? can i ride this to merc?
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>>127949803
Yeah you can.

Also frost blades is pretty fucking dope in a night's hold.
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>>127949803
drops off at na4/ca2
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>>127949803
i used nights hold to lvl 55, then i got floral gift 5l staff
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>>127949896
Frost Blades is a pretty good leveling skill now if you can get around the whole namelocking thing.
>>
I'm REALLY drunk and i want to play asgain
last time i played was shortly after the act 4 launch and getting a hc league character with facebreakers and ice smash or whatever to near max level


what should i play right now guys
dont give me some fucking pussy ass flame totem suggestion
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>>127951360
Wait 7 days and just play D3.

Not worth getting into PoE until ascendancy at this point, league will be dead once D3 comes out anyways.
>>
Post the cheapest and memest memebuild you can think of
I want to see how far I can take it through hc
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>>127951560
But I hate D3
I played the last update and maxed two characters and it's shit, honestly.
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>>127948476
you lost me at

>die in a map
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>>127951660
Pretty fun for a couple weeks with friends.

I agree its a mediocre game though. PoE will still be dead in a week.
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>>127951745
I honestly don't care if PoE is dead
I enjoy PoE most when it's global 1 and there's just a small group of dank memers constantly shitposting
Game doesn't need to be too alive for me to shitpost in there desu

also I don't have friends
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>>127951360
bladefall
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>>127951631
bladefall totems
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>>127951631
anything totems
anything traps
dont even need items
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>>127952339
>enemies can be hit multiple times
I am SO down
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>>127847449
>>127847547
>>127847741
>>127847886
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>>127953997
(You)
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bweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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>Open up a standard character
>Have 60+ remove only tabs
>No easy way to just combine all that shit, or say you only want to keep currency, uniques, and yellow+ maps

Holy fuck how do people play this league, do they just not play anything else?
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>>127955015
delete all standard characters
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PlayerAuctions safest place for RMT if I make a dummy account to buy from then trade back to my main for a few shit uniques?
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>>127955112
>Not keeping them for build testing, cross league trades, etc
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>>127955297
I keep my hardcore characters
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>>127955015
you can donate them :^)
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>>127955015
>trying to act like you only play hardcore
you only have all that shit because you're playing SC leagues that end, and/or you're actually fucking bad at the game and keep dying with huge stashes in HC
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>>127956609
you're fucking stupid lol
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>>127956609
>Standard character

You're a fucking retard, not one part of my post said anything about being HC only. It's not like the SC temp leagues existed or anything
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>>127956669
haha xD

No, detected the shitter though.
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>>127955169
Safest way is uninstall the game, shitbag.
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>>127956727
you literally have 0 reading comprehension
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>>127957176
You literally have 0 skill
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>>127957076
Why are you upset? $10 is like 30 mins of work and gets me easily 200x more currency than 30 mins in game would give. It'd be retarded to not do it, you're not retarded are you?
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>>127957231

>I resolve all issues I encounter with money :^)

Why not just play p2w games where you can do this without any issue?
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>alt-tabbed to shitpost in AGDQ for a second in act 1 normal caverns hardcore talisman
>came back, died to one fucking squid fuck

I deserved it.
At least I literally didn't do shit on that character yet.
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>>127957231
not that guy but if you are going to spend money on a game, why not do so on a game with legit cash shops?

chosing one of the very few f2p game with no cash shop to buy a difficulty knob from a shady vendor makes no little sense. unless thats your thing i guess, to use your $$ to try stay ahead of the curve and make the game easier
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>>127958382
>>127958341
Because I enjoy Path of Exile?
Sometimes I want to try a build that requires a retarded expensive item, and I can choose to nolife farm, trade, flip, etc for hours and hours and hope to RNG it, or I can just drop $10 and get the item to enjoy my build. Some people find more enjoyment out of farming for their items for their future builds, I enjoy playing the build.
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>>127957231
not even >>127958341 and >>127958382 tbqh but your RMT bullshit does not belong here. You are literally a cancer in the community if you fund those RMT sellers. You encourage them, and give them more reason to spam in chat more and be more cancerous themselves.

Go play a legit P2W game.
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>>127958546
Honestly, you're safe just buying it and getting it straight. GGG doesn't actually pay attention to RMT transactions, they don't even care. They never ban spammers for RMT sales in chat either. They legit don't care.
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>>127958546
but you dont enjoy path of exile if you pay to skip playing it and make it easier to play

but eh, to each their own. im ok with the challenge the game puts you up to and dont feel like i need a difficulty knob to have fun
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What is the dankiest melee setup right now, /poeg/? I am in my 90s on HC with Ice Crash, but I wondered if meta has changed with the Cyclone nerf.
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>>127958546

I don't play that much and almost never trade and I always have the money to make what builds I want work senpai. Generating currency is actually pretty easy.
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>>127959046
still cyclone
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>>127959276
you must play dumpster builds
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>>127959046
I would say ice crash, cyclone and reave are the only skills worth a damn currently

all the other ones are just bad - requires manual targeting, too much moving from mob to mob, or like spooky toss, just an inferior reave
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>>127959353

I've generated like 20ex without any hassle and extremely minimal trading nigga step up.

>hurr I need to spend 50ex on every character I make :^)
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>>127959606
You're either lying, or just find a multi-exalt unique every day, either way your opinion can be discarded
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>>127959046
Lightning strike
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>>127959565

This is just wrong.

Splash skills (like Infernal Blow/Glacial Hammer/Dual Strike etc) are all GOOD. Sweep is top tier, Frost Blades is pretty good. And Lightning Strike is currently pretty crazy.

There is a lot of vairety possible with "melee" skills, people just don't WANT to because ">muh cyclone is the only good skill" mindset.
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>>127959606
retards who only copy streamer memebuilds but cant into trade are the ones rmt the most. im not surprised

>>127959801
you are truly retarded or extremely bad at this game if you believe you cant make at least an ex a day, even in chaos equivalence
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>>127959801

Yet I, and the small group of friends I play with who all do minimal trading all manage to generate enough exalts to do as we generally please through the leagues every league.
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EK or spec throw?
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>>127960407
EK
Spec throw takes a lot of building and setting up to reach what level 1 EK can do
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>>127960407
havent played st in a long time. EK is legit tho. specially this league, with the op poison
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>>127960407
Poison EK Chain is great, Deadhand Talisman's make it viable single target too
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Nice. I'll give it a go and save some spooky throw for when ascendancy makes everything OP again.
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can you IDIOTS stop playing vaal spark, u're ruining the fucking economy AND the servers
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>>127960740
lmao no :^)
I even bought a dagger with tons of attack speed as well as good stats for vaal spark so I can whirling blades even faster
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>>127959606
define extremely minimal trading
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>>127960568
is chain really needed?

most packs would be dead in 1 or 2 echoed casts without it anyway

>>127960740
blame chris
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>>127960871
Personal preference, most people I see running high level maps are running it. Simply because feeding a Deadhand Talisman grants tons of damage with it to bosses
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>>127960823

I only sell things worth like 20c or more, everything else I keep and I barely maintain any level of shop which barely ever gets updated
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>>127960823
not that guy but whay i understand from minimalistic trading is only 2-3 stash tabs of shit for selling focusing mainly on things with actual demand
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What is this vaal spark meme? I'm out of the loop. Basically, VS+jewel for souls, or something trickier?
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>>127961163
yes that's basically it
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would you guys hire piety for her "services"
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>>127959935
how is it wrong?
skills requiring a manual melee target to hit are all shit for clear speed, and will propably give you carpal tunnel from all that shift holding.

you also have to be in mobs faces nonstop, where in cyclone you can phase directly through AND have stun immunity.

lightning strike is alright until you use it on a shrine/allies cannot be killed pack where your framerate will drop to single digits - not to mention the projectile being stopped by any form of rubble

only tooltip fags who jerk themselves off over their 250k dual strike plays with this shit, and you shouldn't either when spells, especially fire converted to chaos, bladefall, even fucking traps will do the job way faster, easier and on a lower currency budget.
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>>127961163
yes, it's practically what you mentioned. Vaal spark linked with spell echo, faster projectiles, pierce, life leech and increased duration. You go LL because you need the damage from PA in order to actually clear shit. Then you use call of the brotherhood to convert 50% of lightning damage to cold in order to freeze and shatter, which generates extra souls with chill of corruption. Then you use two or three sacrificial harvests for more souls.
Basically, it's the fastest clearing build in the game but only for certain maps. It's the build that can clear dried lake faster so it's used to farm it. But it's also the build that can net the higher xp/hour in a party, in which you run maps that are basically linear corridors or stuff like that. I played vspark with a team and we ran gorges, arid lakes, canyons , volcanoes, dry peninsula, plateau and springs. The downside is that the vaalsparker itself is pretty fragile as it sacrifices defenses to maximize the clear speed and the fact that it doesn't work in anything higher than springs
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I really want to run PtL with Lightning Strike but cant really make up my mind. I get that I could run Lightning Penetration and make good use of the multiplier. Would also make reflect and leech easier. But is it really worth it to blow two support slots for that?
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>>127961460

>skills requiring a manual melee target to hit are all shit for clear speed

They are barely any different from cyclone you dense shit

>leap/whirl into pack, one multistrike hit packs dead
>leap/whirl into next pack

You are delusional if you think cyclone is somehow magically much faster clearing.

>muh slow as balls movespeed while I kill a pack with less aoe reach is better :^)
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How much attack speed do you need to travel faster than spectral throw with whirling blades?

The threshold jewel intrigues me.
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>>127961748

>I could run Lightning Penetration
>COULD

No, you HAVE to. Running entirely one element then not using pen is just retarded.
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>>127961969
Epic meme, there are tons of builds that run 1 element and don't run pen
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how much does the exalt:chaos ratio fluctuate in hardcore? it's going to be 90:1 on tsc soon
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>>127962174
thc has been floating right above 50 all season
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>>127962174
kek

its been steady at like 52-55 in hc
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>>127962174

It's been pretty steady at around 55:1, though it may push into 60.
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Is it viable to use Flicker as occasional gapcloser without reliable frenzy charge generation?
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>>127962148

Name a single element build that running pen isn't good for.

You realise Pen is one of the best dps gems available right?
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>>127961839
cyclone IS faster, and also much easier

an actual upclose melee build has too high risk of death because multistrike locks you in place for too long, so stuff like cannibals who all throw their projectiles at once is a high risk factor. you also risk potential stunlock unless you go for unwavering.

if these skills are so top tier as you say, why does almost nobody play them?
when was the last time anyone in this general posted a screen where they weren't just playing fotm stuff?
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>>127962529
also, cyclone with templar aoe cluster, aoe gem, master of the arena and a 2h axe is pretty big
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>>127962415
tooltip warriors dislike pen
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>it's a curse immune map
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>>127962529

>because multistrike locks you in place for too long

Fuck off with this tired meme, multistrike locking is like a half a second for most builds. Everyone uses echo and nobody complains about "echo lock".

Cannibals also through their projectiles at range while you run/leap/whirl in, then you kill them before they throw again. Also stunlock fucking RARELY ever happens. I played splash IB to 88 this league and I don't even remember getting fucking stunned once.

>why does almost nobody play them?

I already explained, because people have the "MUH CYCLONE" mindset just like you and have never even tried anything else.

>when was the last time anyone in this general posted a screen where they weren't just playing fotm stuff?

Because people in this general are retarded sheep who have proven time and time again they can't make builds/think for themselves so they just do the same shit over and over/copy streamers.
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>>127962529
>when was the last time anyone in this general posted a screen where they weren't just playing fotm stuff?
The possibility this general's attitude could do something with it didn't cross your mind now did it. Every time I tried discussing uncommon interesting builds which I had success with was met with memes and one-liners.
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>>127963047
>splash IB
How was it?
Why would I switch from Ice Crash?
Any tree gimmicks you need to take, or plain hp+phys dmg would do?
Any gem gimmicks, or just melee phys+splash+FA+whatevs?
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>>127962415
Mjolner, Cast on Crit Cyclone, Vaal Spark, any conversion build
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>>127963523

I did it with an Oro's (because I had a 5L one) so I just scaled all the wed/fire damage and ran anger. It was nice because all the fire damage/elemental damage went into also scaling the explosion.

But just doing an absolutely regular no gimmicks phys IB is perfectly fine. Scaling the explosion damage much is pretty irrelevant because you near kill most things with the splash anyway and the eplosion just finishes things off.
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name a better mf skill than caustic arrow

YOU CAN'T

don't say vaal spark pls...
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>>127963047
you're tinfoil hatting so fucking hard

the skills suck, nobody uses them when racing to 100 in a new league.
I've played tons of builds, melee included, and the risk vs reward just isn't there for it compared to ranged builds.

sure it's fun and it can work, but it will never truly pass the point of mediocre unless chris fucks the balance.

>>127963136
this general does shit on people for doing stuff outside the box, but why?
have you considered it might be because there might be some truth to it and your choices just aren't optimal?

and if you don't care about having an optimal build, why play this game?
D3 has better gameplay but has lobotomized build depth for this exact reason
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>>127963794
coc cyclone with discharge and blade vortex

oh, and vaal spark
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>>127963691

Mjolnir can and do use pen. Discharge + Arc + Pen would be the best 3 link.

CoC builds don't use all one element and just use good spells for critting. And they all use physical spells now.

Vaal spark is not a single element, its 50/50 cold lightning.

Pure conversion builds that go fully into another penetrable element would still get an increase out of it, chaos conversion builds only don't run it because one doesn't exist.

>>127963908

>the skills suck, nobody uses them when racing to 100 in a new league.

The skills don't suck. The builds people use at the very top of the ladder aren't a pure representation of good or bad.

The "there are only three good builds in the entire game lmao" mindset is literally the worst.
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Anybody here run a curser?
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>>127964187
there will always only be a handful of top builds, it's almost impossible to balance everything to the same scale.
it's like this in every other game with that many options and combinations of equipment and powers.
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>>127964187
> Discharge + Arc + Pen would be the best 3 link.
Maybe if youre only running Dried Lake on softcore

CoC builds generally are running Mathil's garbage right now, which relies on lightning discharge.

Vaal Spark would still benefit from either Pen, especially cold, but doesn't because it just isn't as good as other supports
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>>127964514
i did a few leagues ago
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>>127964619
>Name a single element build that running pen isn't good for.

>vaal spark would still benefit from either pen

so would literally every skill that does any elemental damage

cyclone with hatred would benefit from cold pen

that doesn't mean it's good you retard

move some more goalposts holy shit
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>>127963908
>have you considered it might be because there might be some truth to it and your choices just aren't optimal?
Oh, you are one of those..

I am, actually, playing D3 and Grim Dawn and D2 HC and TQ. And PoE. Because creating builds and looking for synergies is fun. And playing those afterwards is also fun. Like, just fun.

And you are exactly that kind of guy who replies to uncommon builds with oneliners and memes. Thanks, anon, when I think poeg hit the rock bottom it's dedicated posters like you who prove me otherwise.
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>>127964691
I'm just tryin to find one that can keep up with my vaal spark
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i have 135c 1exa on scrubcore, that's more than enough for a set of rigwald weapons right? sword + axe wombo combo
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>>127965056
would probably have to be some form of blasphemy curser

ball lightning/arc/whispering ice couldn't keep up

would be rough on ice shot/frenzy other bow skills
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>>127964846
You're right, Vaal Spark technically isn't a single element

That still leaves 2 very popular builds that don't run Pen simply because it just isnt as good, despite being single element. Usually running LL is what takes Pen's slot
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>>127965185
i'm pretty sure they're dirt cheap id'd

check trade buddy
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>>127965190
having auras helps a lot, and the curses on map bosses makes the single target a lot more bearable.
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>>127965014
so you think that you just know more and have more experience than most people in this general to disregard all criticism?

and I never replied with a meme or oneliner, genuinely interested in knowing why you think these are good when the vast majority of players disagree with you
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>>127965398
yeah, just saying it would be hard to keep up and apply curses before shit gets shattered with a well geared vaal sparker. your best bet would be an ice shot curser like that niceshot guy runs
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>>127965585
it's also nice to have somebody looting for you as a vaal sparker.

finding a person who plays a curser without a carry already is difficult though
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>>127964552

Sure there will always be a mathematical "top" build.

But that doesn't make everything else garbage and the differences are minimal at best generally.
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>>127965687
It depends what you're looking for
Vaal spark will take a big shit on anythign else in clear speed, but sucks at Atziri
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