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>2016 Winter Cup:
>16 Test Cup:
>Previously on /4ccg/:
Faggot OP complaining about anime on 4chan
some Winter Cup logo was posted
system with non-medals being all 88s and 4 gold players being considered
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At least pick a better team desu
I feel that if the second weekend were offered from the beginning then managers would have tried to space out games. Most planned both of their matches when only one weekend was available and now we have all this space .
Also why the fuck is /c/ playing 2 games back to back with a fucking TBD intermission?
might as well post this again if we're talking friendlies
Teams that have only one friendly: /an/, /b/, /cm/, /g/, /hr/, /mu/, /pol/, /w/, /y/
Teams with no friendlies: /3/ (lel), /adv/, /asp/, /biz/, /cgl/ (lel), /gif/, /h/, /i/, /int/, /lgbt/ (lel), /lit/, /n/, /out/, /po/, /r9k/, /s/, /soc/, /t/, /trv/, /u/, /wsg/, /x/
Still a ton of slots open so managers should book shit if they want to
I'm guessing you'd have to talk to one of the teams managers to reschedule and just pick another day; I do believe Tenko said the 2nd Friday will be removed though.
Please pick the second weekend so I can watch
>OP is not better than some insecure teen that gets triggered by drawings
Whatever, you clearly confused me with someone else
I don't know why you're getting pissy over it. I just find Manchester United to be an amusing team these days
Oh, didn't check the wiki.
>/m/ vs /vr/
>tfw Canadafag got got by /merit/
Is there something we can do or are they too powerful?
It proves that they WILL get you if they want. /merit/ are a very powerful bunch and to be feared.
Anyway, w-what's y-your favorite MLP episode? I-I like the one where t-they learn that sharing is c-caring, haha...
oh god don't get me
Please note: Fixed saved has been posted on the wiki page for Test Cup V 16.0.
let's save the thread with some relevant filenames
more NHL screenshots during the ded hours
Thanks mate. I'ma play this going to my game tonight.
/4ccg/, time for a quick survey:
>If they lose their first match in Winter, what's the most likely reason why?
>If your answer to one is /mlp/ and two is "PES'd because there is no way such a dedicated team with great aesthetics, managing, and fan support could lose otherwise", you will not be getting any (You)s today.
Here's the gallery with all 5 of the logos that were submitted via email and one that I only found because someone noted in the OP of this thread that someone had posted a concept in the last thread. Pic related was submitted by an Anon.
Edited versions may be submitted until 12:00pm UTC on Friday, January 15th. The poll will open at some point on Saturday, January 16th, and will remain open for approximately 24 hours. Thanks to everyone who submitted designs!
Whoever makes the next thread, please put this at the bottom of the OP if you see this.
I like them, nothing too flashy but these are all nice logos. I'd go for six too, probably, though I like how simple and clean 3 is.
Isn't that just because it was always the same guy making them?
I'm not autistic, my mother had me tested.
Not that I'm complaining, but I'm amazed that the laurel wreath logo is a contender in this poll because of its simplicity and the fact that unlike all the other logo concepts, I don't see any winter elements in it besides the fact that it's blue.
I don't know. Those were the last edits he made. Probably a case of I know better than you do so fuck you I'll do what I want. If he was sense able he would have realized better, more up to date changes could be made prior to winter instead of the middle of November.
Is twitter a circlejerk? Otherwise I don't know what you're talking about.
Oh, I guess you're right.
By the way, news for all the ones waiting on their stuff: PLEASE forgive me. I have some major stuff going on right now and no time to work. Will resume in maybe two weeks? It's hard to say.
Even if you say stuff like "oh it's for free so don't worry', I still am sorry because I don't want you guys to wait this long
Don't remind me how much I spent on this stuff ;_;
A good moment for test draw featuring
>that almost group H from winter 14
>/out/ beating /ck/ in their last group match again
>/mu/ losing to /wg/ again
>dat group G
Attention like creepyanon? No thanks.
It is, but also >>127924440
But really, it's just to give back something to you people. The reason why I want to give back and the more general reason why I do stuff like this, though, is kinda personal.
>/g/o/h/n/ cena again
/mlp/ /int/ ez, /s/ are overrated and have been for a while and /vp/ stands fucking -20 chance with their awful live managing
/g/ /n/ ez, no faith in maydave or a flow possibly on his own (rip rlk and maybe gummy)
/b/ /an/, really depends on who wins /an/-/d/ since /soc/ are closest thing to free points
/asp/ /sp/, /out/ probably won't sustain their form in 16 and /ck/ already doesn't defense
/mu/ /gd/, le smugleaf sabotaging the /wg/ manager face
/f/ /a/, cheeky 4-4-4-4
/tg/ /fit/ in ANOTHER 4-4-4-4, condiments to /tv/ and /k/ being drawn in such a group
/u/ /vr/, other 2 teams are decent and lucky but i don't see either of the top 2 slipping
>/vp/ wins first match, giving fans hope
>hope is crushed as /int/ and /mlp/ beat /vp/ badly, /vp/ is relegated
would winning then being blown out make the suffering even worse for /vp/?
smug facial expression of girl from japanese cartoon saved in the JPEG or PNG image file formats to the left of text colored green preceded by a greater than sign
second largest testing team in the cup goes a good length, and so do questionable group draws
<Koala> >sugaring your butt
<Koala> would lick
<Smuggles> Do girls get asshair?
<Koala> Pretty sure they do
<Smuggles> ew gross
<Smuggles> What the fuck
<Tunabrain> Of course they do
Join #outlels instead senpai
In the last game, I got
>half the team freezing up and going into civilian mode for a few seconds
>Nigger Winner Furthemore-style bicycle kick goal
>midfielder pulling a Jews and denying my striker a sure goal
>cheeky 90+ heel goal with the striker not even looking back
These tests had better be accurate, I keep winning 70% of the time but every now and then PES decides to give the other team godly luck and I get BTFO no matter what
>go to #outlels
>literally nobody there
You do realize there is such a thing as the luck of the draw, right?
Surviving an elite cup can be easy given the right group.
I know from personal experience. Plus, we saw SocialSpartan get past the group stage not too long ago, and two teams fluked their way past the group stage with only 3 points.
lads, when will /sp/ embrace the genius of Jurgen "Kult-Kloppo" Klopp?
>/mlp/ and some cheeky win teams
>R.I.P. /vp/ for the billionth straight time in a row
>Hentai Derby but /u/ and /vr/ win in the end and jesus fuck they've been drawn together the last three fucking test draws
>small markets and /f/ Group D
>big market Group E
>Group Dragonfag two years past the point where most people would have given much of a shit
>memes and cheeky bandwagoning
This desu, why doesn't /vp/ just fucking roll over and die no one wants such a shitty meme team holy shit.
Even the /vp/ "fans" who have posted in this thread don't even have confidence in their manager or subscribe to the memes around them, leaving only planted pokefags as the remaining fans. It's over, they should just go home and rot in permababby hell where they belong.
You can deny me (You)s all you want but it's the truth.
>/mlp/ and /an/ definitely, maybe /k/ if they're lucky
>/g/ and /fit/ probably, /vp/ loses with flying colors again
>/u/ and /vr/, little hope for /h/ or /d/
>probably /f/ and /wg/, I don't think /out/ will keep their momentum and /r9k/ isn't that great
>/tv/ and /tg/, [s4s] if they're lucky, /a/ has pretty slim chances
>/b/ and /o/, but /pol/ and /lit/ might be able to get through, I don't have high expectations for /o/
>/asp/ and /gd/, maybe /n/
>/mu/ and /int/, although it will be sad to see /ck/ go.
as much as people seem to like scoreless free-points teams, that kind of defeats the point of Elite Cups.
fuck /vp/ for making whatever group they're in 3-team groups or worse, fuck their group for being so retarded they advanced, and fuck their managers for even bothering, they are unfunny meme managers who don't even get results and should kill themselves.
reminder that /vp/ won the group with 9 points, beating the eventual 3rd place team along the way
I'm sorry, but did /vp/ already lose? Oh, that's right. The cup hasn't even started yet. In fact, it's only January. Does not getting favorable test draws in January count as a loss? Is that what you're saying? Because if you're saying that I can assure you that you're wrong. Why would you make this topic when the cup hasn't started? /vp/ are still playing right now and they have been the best team in the Babbies for how many months now? They played one of the worst teams in the Autumn Ro16 who just happen to win the cup because they fed off the energy of playing in Sunday Night Games. But you know what? They still fucking suck. /vp/ are one of the best fucking teams in the 4CC, they got to each of the last three elite cups and would of won Summer if the offense didn't choke. Maybe you should shut the fuck up before you make retarded topics like this. You know why? Because you're going to be embarrassed when /vp/ wins an elite game and someone bumps this topic. Oh look at that, someone posted a test draw and said "rip /vp/", just like Autumn. Are you a fucking drunk? Are you retarded? Are you autistic? You are a fucking idiot and you should never make a topic on this board again and I'm fucking serious. I almost have a feeling you're the only guy making all these anti-/vp/ topics because you're a faggot hater who doesn't like the team because they're good. Fuck you, be good at something in YOUR life and then maybe try to troll these fucking teams on the board, like I give a fuck. It's so easy to spot out your threads now, you're a retard. Always doing stupid shit like this. Why don't you try to be a good poster? Just for once? For once in your fucking life try not to make a topic like this. That's just you, you're always right at getting it wrong. Fuck you. You are nothing.
Nice reddit copypastes you faggots.
Jesus Christ, are all /vp/ fans literally this reddit? It's almost like dealing with horsefuckers here, I don't understand why we don't treat them the same. I mean:
>they're both containment boards
>about magical creatures
>there are planted Pokefags littering the management of several teams
>they're both infested by people who are on average severely autistic
/c/ has some fans
implyingnotbandwagonbut at this point it's like being a Cleveland Browns fan, there's no point in getting mad otherwise you'd probably have broken everything you own long ago
how did any of that post have to do with ronery?
Are /c/ the worst non-6th Founding team of all time? I can't think of a single other team that hasn't had at least a modicum of success. The furthest they've gotten is literally a babby ro16. Even /vp/ have made babby quarterfinals.
Sekkou Boys for /a/ when?
How do I stop my players from running with the ball when they should pass/clear it? Over and over, whether they're 99s or 77s, I see players dribble the ball into an opposing player and lose possession. It is maddening.
probably a combination of support range, positioning, numbers in attack/defense, compactness, and maybe footing depending if you want certain players to cut in or pass from the wings. my "best" guess.
Paging BlenderAnon or someone who knows their asthetical shit, hit me up pls
>it's probably your team instructions and player settings
How insightful. Thank you for that.
If your theory was "maybe you have people spaced too far apart so the AI feels it is safer to dribble than to pass," you would be wrong. There are passing lanes open and nearby players to support, but the AI chooses to dribble pointlessly into a defender or opposing striker anyway. Over and over.
At least I'm nice enough to lube them up before shoving it in.
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input cup people and shitpost loudly
The chance of a relationship working out between Doctor Boris M.D. and (You) is not very big, but a relationship is very well possible, if the two of you really want it to, and are prepared to make some sacrifices for it. You'll have to spend a lot of quality time together. You must be aware of the fact that this relationship might not work out at all, no matter how much time you invest in it.
The chance of a relationship working out between Autocrat and his dad is not very big, but a relationship is very well possible, if the two of you really want it to, and are prepared to make some sacrifices for it. You'll have to spend a lot of quality time together. You must be aware of the fact that this relationship might not work out at all, no matter how much time you invest in it.
Dr. Love thinks that a relationship between /vp/ and an Elite Cup Win has a reasonable chance of working out, but on the other hand, it might not. Your relationship may suffer good and bad times. If things might not be working out as you would like them to, do not hesitate to talk about it with the person involved. Spend time together, talk with each other.
Dr. Love thinks that a relationship between Rorona and EA has a very good chance of being successful, but this doesn't mean that you don't have to work on the relationship. Remember that every relationship needs spending time together, talking with each other etc.
Dr. Love thinks that a relationship between Sou and horsefuckers has a very good chance of being successful, but this doesn't mean that you don't have to work on the relationship. Remember that every relationship needs spending time together, talking with each other etc.
Dr. Love thinks a relationship might work out between /mu/ and /wg/, but the chance is very small. A successful relationship is possible, but you both have to work on it. Do not sit back and think that it will all work out fine, because it might not be working out the way you wanted it to. Spend as much time with each other as possible. Again, the chance of this relationship working out is very small, so even when you do work hard on it, it still might not work out.
literally the same percentage as /mu/'s win rate against /wg/ LEL
<Feedback> I seriously want /wg/ this time around
<JohnnyBravo> !decide "/mu/ will beat /wg/ this time" "/mu/ will NEVER EVER beat /wg/"
<buttbot> JohnnyBravo: /mu/ will NEVER EVER beat /wg/.
<Feedback> stop it jb
<Feedback> stop it
<JohnnyBravo> I swear that question is rigged
<JohnnyBravo> gives me that answer every time I ask
<Feedback> !decide "/mu/ will beat /wg/ this time" "/mu/ will NEVER EVER beat /wg/"
<buttbot> Feedback: /mu/ will beat /wg/ this time.
Dr. Love thinks a relationship might work out between /u/ and /a/, but the chance is very small. A successful relationship is possible, but you both have to work on it. Do not sit back and think that it will all work out fine, because it might not be working out the way you wanted it to. Spend as much time with each other as possible. Again, the chance of this relationship working out is very small, so even when you do work hard on it, it still might not work out.
As just a viewer I'm somewhat concerned that PES 16, while more entertaining to watch than 1.12, will just as much be a diceroll. Can someone say for sure that tactics matter even a little bit?
Also it seems to me that for most Winter teams their biggest win/loss will change simply due to 16. Kinda sucks desu. Some other records will probably be easily beaten as well.
And it was true. PES15 was the worst thing to happen to the cup, even worse than 1.12. Tactics don't matter and tactics don't exist. Tactics have been reduced to switches that don't affect gameplay anymore and are completely useless as they are now. The AI is buttfuck retarded because they can't do anything and there are far too many goals.
Honestly, so far it actually seems to be somewhat consistent. I'm getting 50-70% win rates with the odd PES blowout against or draw. Sure, testing is more tense because even a 3-0 lead can be blown in the last 10 minutes thanks to 16's aggressive momentum swings and worthless keepers, but superior tactics clearly win most of the time - as they should - with some changes being enough to influence an outlier result.
The only thing that's a complete, bullshit diceroll is long ball, because it only works like 25% of the time but when it does there's not much you can do except try to mitigate your losses, because PES WILL make every single pass connect no matter how well you have your defense set up.
Another problem is that passing is much more awkward this time. The AI will sometimes make some questionable choices that will leave you baffled, though some other times it will lead to something amusing and/or cheeky as fuck.
The game as a whole is a lot more finnicky and awkward than 15, but if we do change some things it should be resolved. However, if that is the case, then I'd like to have Winter delayed about a week from the usual date, as I think managers should have a bit more time to adapt to said changes.
New /tv/ goalhorn when?
Also on the list, naturally.
Let's see how he does in the test cup first.
I like the new feature of bobbled passes and such. When players collide is where everything goes retarded. Now when a player receives the ball the defender just runs into them to dispossess and they both flop. for CB's their "vision" has been nerfed significantly. They can't see the 2 opposition players right behind them and turn back to make a weak pass to no one. Strikers choke open shots more, I don't know why GK's are being blamed for that. The #1 problem is the backs/defensive line.
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>eight goals in the first half
of fucking course we blow a fucking 2 goal lead
of fucking course, why would anything good ever happen to us
gg planet, draw was probably best we could have hoped for with the second half being as godawful for us as it was
buff GKs to be quite honest with you
Apart from /dfg/ I don't think Bear has ever made his affliations very clear, I would imagine he would be a /tg/ person if anything. I can't imagine him being a planted Pokéfag.
Yes they were. Complaining about how PES14 was much better and that every PES15 game would end in 10 goals. Same as right now. A bunch of retards who don't test or are just utter shit.
Feedback only likes 1.12 pes14 (for obvious reasons), I haven't heard retort say shit about which one he thinks is better
probably considering he's actually good at both games
/merit/ will claim that Test Cup doesn't prove shit because those teams are not trying hard or that their exports were rushed and we won't change a single thing for Winter, wchih will end up as clusterfuck with /out/ - /soc/ 5 - 8 final.
Nerf medals desu
The game isn't necessarily the problem; we're seeing lower shot totals than pes 15 even. That last game was only 10 shots to 6. The thing that's causing these gigantic scorelines is the fact that golds very rarely miss their shots, so you get statlines like /y/'s 6(6) 5.
I honestly prefer it this way. Better than 10(9) 0 - 1 (1)1 that 2 years ago every game. Better tactics should win and the easiest way to reach that point is the complete removal of the goalkeeper.
>tfw you are in spring and don't have to fear /merit/ going full retard with 2016
Not necessarily, you could probably buff keepers a significant amount and you'd still see the same thing. The strikers would still be putting the ball into the net where the keeper simply can't reach with uncanny consistency.
even taking out those 21 goals you still have 23 goals in 4 games, which is one off from 6 avg
likely a combination of golds being insanely good again, GKs being complete garbage, and nobody knowing the first, second, third, or fourth thing about how to defend yet
Rushing the move to PES16 was worst idea of /merit/ in ages, and considering the amount of their fuckups in the past, that says a lot. AI is more terrible than ever, devs were not even pretending that they are not releasing PES15 again by making shameless carbon copy of interface and tactical options. Conversion of aesthetics, especially old ones based on TGH is a chore and probably half of the Winter teams will end up blander than ever if Smugleaf won't return. We probably won't have many stadiums and balls either. Each matchday will be 8-9 hours long because of 50 goalhorns played on each 8 matches by average and Boris will complain even more how the cup is draining his life force. There is not a single improvement that is beneficial to the cup standards that would justify why we've moved. Okay, changing PES before Winter happened in the past, but that was when konami at least cared a little bit to balance stuff, now we're on half-assed PS3 version that will never have AI patches and last PES in line before 17 being pachinko machine.
>Rushing the move
Stopped reading there. It's how it was done always and it's how it should have been done a year ago because PES14 was utter shit and we shouldn't have stayed on it an extra cup. You opinion is worthless.
Sorry for being late
No, the roster changes he made are not official.
Right now I'm thinking of adding Countrythreads, Alberto Barbosa and Gondola but nothing is final. If you have any other suggestions let me know.
Actually this is a good point. I hope they keep ignoring this thread like they did so far. Apart from acting like assholes, they did nothing wrong in the last almost one year.