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>Shin Megami Tensei IV: Final announced
http://megaten4f.jp/

>More information about Shin Megami Tensei IV: Final
http://pastebin.com/Kj5FyHCY

>Starter guide
http://i.imgur.com/zJcYpuE.png

>Tips and tricks
http://pastebin.com/bd3Bgfj8

>Artbook, soundtrack, manga, and other downloads
http://pastebin.com/Np1ng1kx

>New OST links
http://pastebin.com/kLbYxjFU

>Misc. translations
http://pastebin.com/LHKVLNQB

>Booru
http://smtg.booru.org/

>Recommended reading
http://pastebin.com/YppqPPjf

>Previous Thread
>>127452235
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first for white was right
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>>127801175

First for oh yeah bby
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SMT x Gundam
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I wouldn't mind at all if this thread died.
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Physical (Dex/Guns) or Magic build for first time SMTIV playthrough? I know magic is great in DeSu, and I vaguely remember struggling with a physical build in Nocturne but that was years ago.
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>>127802675
Doesn't matter but the STR stat is useless in IV.

If you do DEX also put a lot into LUK.
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>>127802675
DEX relies on multi-hits, and MAG relies on nuking your enemies with a strong blow. It all comes down to what you find to be the most fun.
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>>127802246
Who is the Char of SMT?
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>>127802946
Dagda has his VA.
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>>127802554
What's wrong with it this time?
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>>127802554
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>>127802797
>>127802941
Ah so one doesn't really stand out compared to the other? Seems like other SMT games there's always one build that outclasses the others.

Probably going to go Dex then since I like using Demons for magic.
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>yfw this song comes on

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gu6mz3Hp7k
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I think a proper historical SMT or spinoff would be cool.
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>>127804257
What demon outbreak would Atlus cover?
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>tfw you named Raidou Raidou in Raidou1 and now get confused when people talk to him

what the h*ck
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>>127804686
I'm sure they could find some event and twist it as the work of demons. Maybe the Justinian Plague or something like that could work.
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What am I supposed to do in burial chambers?

Also how long on average does it take to finish amala's labyrinth?
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>>127805292
I will name my Raidou as Lupin.
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>>127802797
So I should've been dumping into Dex even if I'm not using guns?
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>>127805682
Those are areas to do a boss rush, if you can't do anything with them, it means that you still haven't faced the boss of that specific chamber.
If by the end of the game you beat every boss from those chambers in "X" number of turns or less, you earn a very neat bonus for your NG+

It takes a shit ton, but of course, you don' have to tackle it all at once.
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>>127805682
You can refight all bosses in some kind of Time Trial that counts turns. If you beat all of them in a certain turn limit you can get an extra turn in NG+.
Don't bother with it until you want full completion.
Also Labyrinth takes quite a bit without guides. I'd say at least 6 hours. Always willing to help out if you can't find the way
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>>127806310
Yes, since you can still use physical skills.

But if you want to survive Naraku, you should focus on agility and luck first. And once you get the gun, you can begin dumping most of your points into DEX.
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How much time do you take to finish these games?
Which is the game that took you the least time to complete?

For me, these games usually last me from 4 to 8 months in average.
And the game that took me the least time to complete was P4, which I finished in a month because it was my first megaten and that game absorbed me completely.
It's not even my favorite one anymore, and I don't know how would it hold up now that I have played many other megatens.
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>>127804686
French Revolution. Or Russian, that'd be neat too
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>Snappy resists Phys and absorbs Magic
>1068 HP
What the FUCK am I supposed to do about this?
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>>127808303
Keep using magic
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>>127806394
>>127806421
Does the game note you on the required turns for each boss? The text changed for the bosses I defeated, but I don't know if I did well or not.

6 hours is actually short in my book, but I assume it'll take me much longer because I'm already fucking confused by it.
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>>127808303
It's a trick, his weakness is magic.
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>>127808713
If you beat the Turnlimit the Text on the Tombstone becomes red.
You probably need to hunt for all the fiends too. On what floor are you and how much time have you spent in there yet?
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Juicy thick feminine dick!
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>>127809189
I just started it, on the second kalpa. There's a soul on the first that tells you if there are fiends around, she says there aren't any I should be looking for so I assume I'm fine for now ?
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>>127810028
Yeah you're fine until the 3rd. But considering you said you're late into the game none of the fights should really be a challenge anymore.
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Strange Journey is shit.
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Is there such a thing as SMT speedruns? I like speedrunning and SMT but i've never seen someone speedrun a SMT game.
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>>127804024
10/10
Love how they keep reusing this music from SMT I.
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>>127813405
/thread
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guys I just read the tips and tricks for devil survivor overclocked after my first playthrough and physical isn't really all that hard!
Surely annoying at times, because of murmur and its stupid phys reflect but those were barely ever the leading demon so you could defeat the squad anyways
I just went full glass cannon 40 Str and maxed out AG after that as far as I could until I beat day8
there was nothing but the final boss that Multi-Strike (PhysAmp + Pierce + Drain Hit) didn't oneshot and left me at full HP for the next fight
With that magnetide thing every single Demon in my team had Samarecarm and they just kept reviving eachother, while they spammed shield alls and some Megidolaons. I feel like I unlocked half of all possible titles on my first playthrough and I'm missing only the story ones now
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>>127815170
what.
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>>127813691
There is a speedrun of most games. I know some japs on Nico did stuff for Nocturne for example and the fastest time for TDE, hard is like 13h.
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>>127815286
after beating the game I remembered we have pastebins with tips for newer players and those pretend that going physical only would be insane or something.
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happy year of the monkey
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>>127815170
That's fucking great.
My endgame Atsuro also had the same set-up, but of course your MC must be way more powerful.

I think the main issue from going physical is that many demons reflect or null those attacks, all while Holy Dance gets the job done without a single risk.

What party member did you use for ocasions like that one?
For example, I just came back from beating Bishamon, and I decided to bench my physical users because all the minions of the map had physical repel.

Haru is second best girl.
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>>127816513
Nice Amane. Don't have that one saved.
But now I do. Thanks.
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>>127816513
well I spotted first megido and then Megidolaeon and cracked both of those to give to my healers in case something has reflect
nullify and drain are both ignored with pierce and more often than not its very possible to just ignore reflect (In some cases I was extra bold and just replaced drain-hit with phys drain and healed myself on the phys reflect users)
While Metatron couldn't be oneshot I still beat him in a single turn because of based double up. In chapters prior to that fight I even had animal leg + double up and just zoomed around the map with only the Hero deployed to steal all the exp.
the best party member after Hero was ~950hp Kaido with Final strike.
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How's the difficulty of SMT1?
Seeing as how it's a SNES RPG I imagine it would go in the hundreds in terms of play time hours.
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ONE
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>>127818879
MORE
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>>127818867
More like 40 according to howlongtobeat.
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SMT x League of Legends featuring Ash Ketchum from the Pokémon series
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>>127819241
I WANNA BE THE VERY BEST.
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>>127819314
THE BEST THERE EVER WAS
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TO CATCH

ONE
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>>127819408
TO KILL THEM IS MY REAL TEST
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>>127819582
REJECT ALL THE GODS
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>>127818867
It's easy, just use the maps on GameFAQ

I guess I should also note, part of the reason it's easy is that we know how to break it.
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>>127802043
This friend of mine doesn't know a thing about smt but man all she talks about is wanting nothingness its the most annoying thing ever to help her get over.
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>>127820298
Have her play SMT and maybe see a psychiatrist.
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>>127818867
The game is tough until you get through Ginza and Ikebukuro. After, it gets easy since you get so powerful. The only hard bosses are the two null physical ones.

The difficulty comes more from the sheer numbers of enemies you face and the lengths of the dungeons. It's a game of attrition of sorts.
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>fenrir's 8 bit render is better designed than his soul hacker render
It's like he's a sleeping beast you musn't wake up!
The SH one is just "AYYYYY I'm an electric dog!"
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>>127243343
P1 guy, did you finish it? You were really close.
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>>127823198
What doesn't Fenrir's bark sound like?

Spark spark!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_zihFRp7So
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Is there a way to make money fast besides getting lucky enough to run into Omoikanes or however they're spelled? I already have the rich equipped.
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>It was march of last year when I last played SMT1
sucks to think i might never finish
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>>127833841
Do you remember how far you got?
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>>127835287
Had just nuked Tokyo, was having issues with MAG
it turns out my savestate has been wiped for quite some time. I'm actually about an hour into the game, apparently.
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>>127836337
Hmmm, it's weird you were having issues with MAG in SMT1.
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Oh boy.

Glad I get to kill him again
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SMT x Senran Kagura
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SMT x SpongeBob SquarePants
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SMT x Katawa Shoujo
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SMT x Rocky and Bullwinkle
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SMT x Persona
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SMT x ded
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SMT x Dwarf Fortress
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SMT X Supernatural
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I really hate that puzzle in Nocturne.
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>>127841920
Is that Demi-Fiend?
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>>127842635
Yes.
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poast SMT wallpapers
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>>127842967
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I played Nocturne for the first time a year ago while deliriously ill and have had a hard time believing any of that was real since.
I just started playing it again for a second run through while lucid, and... huh. The art direction is fucking outstanding, better than I remember save for Chiaki's knee pads that make her legs look like giant misshapen fingers stuffed into boots but this gameplay...

>Suicide espionage run boss to discover moveset and weakness
>Die
>Redo entire party into something that resists boss while exploiting weakness
>BUFF BUFF BUFF BUFF DEBUFF DEBUFF DEBUFF DEBUFF
>Repeat for every boss

SMT 1-2's gameplay is nowhere near as deep and has its own issues, but I really liked not running into brick walls at every boss that required me to have a specific party layout in order to proceed. Also this story sucks shit when I'm not blasted out of my mind on cold medicine. Any tips to make this more fun?

Started getting sick again the same day I picked this up again. Game is fucking cursed.
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>>127842967
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I'm afraid that FINAL's cathedral of shadows theme won't be as good as this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Wwq1ywWsbY
how do i end the pain /smtg/?
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>>127841015
I thought this was from smt when I saw it in that thread.
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>>127844697
the red background makes it look like something from nocturne
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>>127844697
Is it seriously from SK?
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>>127844010
Where are you right now? It sounds like you have garbage demons, get better at fusing, your Demi-fiend should do most of the work in boss battles anyway.
Chiaki a cute.
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>>127844950
Yes. It's a giant Yoma. Heres another one
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>>127843847
found a bigger version of this
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>>127845132
Dang. Which game? The newest one?

The first pic kinda reminded me of Castlevania.
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>>127845132
I never would have thought the titty game of the year would have such nice monsters.
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name a game with a better ost
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEtRzDYYBuY
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>>127845260
But it doesn't have the lower left letters lovingly edited out with MS Paint.
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>>127845610
Nier.
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>>127844010
>save for Chiaki's knee pads that make her legs look like giant misshapen fingers stuffed into boots
Fuck you, now I see it too.

And yeah, Nocturne kinda has that issue, that it is very easy to get completely blasted during your first attempt at a boss. I guess you only need to be very careful at fusing to prevent such things.

The story is totally minimalistic, it's only good enough to let you know that you are progressing through the game.
Keep playing to see if the game grows on you, or get sick again.
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>>127845841
the space behind it seems to be black. nothing the paint bucket tool cant fix in under a minute
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>>127820470
>Play SMT and maybe see a psychiatrist
Those seem like conflicting actions
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>>127846224
What do you think?
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>>127807604
I'm still on my first(SMT IV) and I started beginning of last month, I'm about 75 hours in and in Blasted Tokyo right now, I probably would've finished by now but fusing demons and doing challenge quests is a lot of fun.
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>>127846637
nice
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Will STR be useful this time around?
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>>127842967
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>>127846936
No.

That file probably comes from someone who abuses with his saves, relies completely in the new partner mechanic, and uses Charon every time.
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>>127842967
>these pleb papes
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>>127846936
>61 STR
>12 DEX
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Completely forgot about these until today.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nGWEb5QxGA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcSh_wsMIV0
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>>127848172
>that res/aspect ratio
y tho
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>>127848571
You forgot about the shit that gets posted every three threads?
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>>127848352
The most triggering thing is:
>has a physical build
>still gives a slight priority to magic, and balances agility and luck
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>>127848930
Considering that these threads last three weeks, can you blame him?
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>>127849719
>ESL
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>>127849719
They actually last one week, sometimes even 5 days or less.
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SMT x Tom Cruise
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>>127849813
Three months, sorry my English is poor, I know.

D
E
A
D
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Will Final raise us from the dead?
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>>127851629
No, but I know in my heart DDS3 is right around the corner.
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Will we be abandon and then be fused with are retarded cousin /pg/?
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>>127852219
No, my ESL friend.
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Do you prefer the PS1 or PSP P2 OSTs?
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>>127854340
I prefer the PSP version, with the exception of Knights of the Holy Spear. I like the PS1 version of that song much more than the remake.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Deicide_in_fiction
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How should I be building my character in SMTIV?
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>>127845297
Its from Senran Kagura 2, for the 3ds. I got it expecting a stupid titty game, but was surprisingly moved by its storyline.
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>>127858786
Haven't played it, but magic builds are the way to go in these games from what I've seen.
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>>127854340
I didn't really listen to the PSP OST much. I set it to use the original OST when I played IS. EP's PS1 OST is forever ingrained in my head and I have no complaints at all.
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>>127858786
Either go with a magic build with some agility and luck on the side, or make a dexterity build with lots of luck and a decent amount of agility. Strength is shit.
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Is there a reason why I shouldn't buy DeSu2 for DS instead of 3DS? The graphics don't look to have had made a major leap, and the gameplay is pretty much the same. I can also live without voice acting since dubs are a shit.
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Does anyone have that vid of that kid fighting the bed and with nocturne effects on it
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>>127861402
2 has more story.
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>>127861684
I know, I'm asking whether the improvements made in the 3DS version are actually worth the extra $25.
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>>127861684
Sorry, I shouldn't type while distracted. I meant the second version, aka 3DS.

It made sense in my mind...
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>>127861750
While it has more content, pretty much everyone shits on it. So maybe wait for a discount, unless you have money to burn? Or emulate the DS version to decide if you like it enough to pay for more.
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return of kaneko when
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>>127865319
Never ever.
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>>127865319
He is surely making DDS3 for PS4 as we speak.
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>>127865562
Suck it.
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>>127865954
That's gay.
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>>127866110
It's not gay if it's a girl's dick, man.
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>>127866150
No, it's still gay. A dick is a dick.
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futa is shit
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>>127866218
Let's track down Kaneko and see what he thinks of feminine dicks and whether it's gay to suck them.
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>>127866609
No one likes how dicks look.
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>tfw finally got CFW on 3DS and now I won't have to wait for the NEVER EVER release of Europe SMT IV:F
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>>127868185
>implying it's even leaving Japan
Seriously though, localization announcements when? It comes out in a month; even the SMT IV localization announcement wasn't this late.
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>>127868446
Watch it not get announced until after P5 releases.
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>>127868615
D-Don't say that anon.
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>>127868698
I wouldn't put it past Atlus USA.
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>>127847587
>>127848352
>tfw you went a str build and didn't have any trouble throughout the whole game
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>>127869151
The game is so easy you have to intentionally gimp yourself to get any sort of a challenge.
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ded thred
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Is anyone here planning to play Final on release? I don't know japanese but i will give it a try.
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>>127871080
i sold my 3ds after i finished smt4 because videogames are children and it's time to grow up
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>>127871440
Why are you here?
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>>127871538
memes
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>>127871623
Why are you so concerned with childish things when you're not even 18 yet?
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>>127808713
The red text that show if you beat the record is hard to see so put the color on your TV on max or you will probably miss it.
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Holy shit I just got my first SMT streetpass!!!
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>>127842012
Which one? I don't remember anything difficult but I haven't finished it yet I'm a dungeon or two away from completion

>tfw want to play
>won't have much time today, who knows what'll happen tonorrow
>still post here instead of playing
I should get back to the game

>>127807604
Usually a month for a game (40-60 hours).
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>>127807604
SMT2 lasts 20-25 hours.

I don't know how people can play more time than that i was almost max stats by that time i was just getting lost on the dungeons.

Lol i stumbled over Satan and killed it without problem.
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Is there going to be a "White" ending every game now?
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Random thought I had while bored at work:

Is Final going to be the first game where someone actually says YHVH's name out loud in a voiced scene?
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>>127874886
Congrats bro, feels good. I live in a city and am always pleasantly surprised that I get SMTIV street-passes daily, and SH passes regularly too.
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>>127877995
it can't be done so no
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I just beat Mishaguji in Raidou1 and god damn this must be one of the worst fights across Megaten games.

>Hitbox of Tailswipe attack is about 20times larger than it is visually
>Heals are based on max HP so if he charms a demon with heal spells he's immediately at full HP again
>absolutely awful camera
>stupid demon AI can't dodge the charm attack

Fuck him
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>>127861517
Spent 30 min looking for it through my yt history and search terms. I have no idea what to look for in order to find it again.
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>>127861517
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjMk5PL2bjg

>>127879413
Isn't it just pronounced "yah-whey"?
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>>127874886
high five anon, I got my first one on new years eve of all times

>>127881380
Thanks for the vid anon. And as far as I know YHVH doesn't have a defined pronunciation. "The lord" is usually used as a subtstitute as far as I know. Might be wrong tho.
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>>127848571
>the second video
What the fuck?
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>>127881539
>as far as I know... as far as I know
brb sleeping

>>127881691
>he doesn't know that Mastema, Mastema, Mastema is trustworthy!
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Hoy bump.
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"YHVH" isn't meant to be pronounced; the Chosen Race say "Adonai" meaning "lord" which is what is indicated by the vowel markings in Hebrew.
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>>127886018
Yeah, but you're also not meant to punch him in the face, but that hasn't stopped us yet.
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>>127886018
dumb jewposter
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>>127807604
The 3D games usually take you a week or less to complete.
I know SMT1 is supposed to take a month to finish if you weren't so overleveled. The dungeons also are giant if you are trying to complete the map.
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>>127818867
Finished it a few days ago lad.

It's really easy, the game is not dificult at all. The random encounter rate is fucked up so every time you take a step you fight 3 hordes of enemies, you end up overleveled. The bosses aren't dificult if you have certain party members with you. I beat almost every single boss in SMT1 by using Zio/Charm bullets, stunning them and taking away their turn.

Fusing demons is terrible, the menus are really slow. Also, at least to me, it felt like every single demon fusion resulted in a fucking slime.

The dungeons are big and i suggest you use a map if you don't want to spend a lot of time in them. By Ginza i gave up on exploring everything because i already had a high level.

Alignments are important, Neutral makes everything easier since you can summon both Law and Chaos demons.

Inventory space is ridiculous and makes buying new armor and weapons a chore.
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>>127887936
>fuse chernobog
>think I'm real fucking cool for having it
>has a miserable attack animation making it do fucking nothing in combat
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>>127887750
>mfw the PS version gives you way more inventory space, the ability to easily sort items and puts gems in an extra item area, and view type/stats/sexes for equipment
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>>127887936
I like the concept a lot. It just feels like there are a ton of technical aspects I feel could be improved.
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>>127888538
I still wonder why i didn't play the IOS version.
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>>127888616
I think i fucked up my post.

Raidou 1 is great until you play Raidou 2 and realize that Raidou 1 is bad.

Raidou 2 fixed everything wrong with Raidou 1 gameplay.
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Maybe I'm just slow, but this 'Hijiri is Aleph' thing is complete shit right?
>The fake YHVH that the archangels create is the one that promises to smite Aleph over and over again
>The actual YHVH just says he's going to come back to life whenever people pray for salvation
>Nocturne introduces multiple universe theory, so why is it necessarily Aleph that commits the ultimate sin?
>Why not pic related?
>Cerberus shows you his 'master's tomb' which turns out to be Izanagi's tomb suggesting it is far closer to the Megami Tensei universe anyway

Also, what the fuck is up with the infinite universe thing in SMT? Are there multiple YHVHs? If so, how/why do they tolerate each other since smiting 'false' gods is his whole schtick? Or is there just one that preys on multiple worlds at random? Does the universe thing serve any purpose other than to canonize spin-offs (and utterly trivialize the events of each individual game by making the demon apocalypse a mundane, regular occurrence)?
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>>127881380
thanks.
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>>127888750
Is there anything you can transfer from Raidou1 to Raidou2 like with DDS? Because I'm playing on console and I won't be able to play 2 on console.
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>>127818867
Like what >>127819981 says, it's an easy game for people who know how SMT works because, well, we know how it works. This is true for a lot of games, but I feel it's especially true for SMT since a lot of the challenge of the games is understanding the intricacies of the battle system and the demon/fusion system

for example, >>127887750 perfectly illustrates this since he knows to abuse Zio/charm spam to cheese the shit out of demons. Charm shit is only readily available for demons at around the low-20s (Heroine gets Marin Karin, but that's single target) until you get access to Charm bullets like halfway through the game and Zio spam is impossible unless you expressly go out of your way to retain zio spamming demons who are also fast or build the heroine in a specific manner (MAG/AGI points all the way) which already implies a level of foreknowledge about the game. Arguably Law Hero's bufu spam also works but that implies you build the Law Hero a certain way as well.

Personally I'd argue that the game is more 'tedious' than difficult once you know how it works (basically by figuring out the fusion system and the spell proficiency shit to allow your human partners to learn their good spells asap). Most of the challenge is in dungeon crawling and surviving the insane encounter rate, because let's face it bosses are pretty much just there to clean up your party after particularly difficult dungeon crawls. It's old-school that way
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>>127891760
Some low level demons will 'rejoin' you for free. I forget if there's other things.
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>>127890901
actual YHVH curses the shit out of Aleph and Hiroko too, anon. Go back to their final fight, before you fight YHVH he bitches at Aleph for being an artificial messiah and Hiroko for giving birth to him, promises he'l torture the shit out of them in hell, then when he gets bored he'll reincarnate the two and then repeat the process all over again
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>>127879413
>it can't be done
Why not anon?
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>>127892140
Whoops, I did the Chaos ending where he and Lucifer just get catty with each other and ignore you for the most part.

The rest of my points still stand though. This only makes my questions more complicated.
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>>127861402
>spending money on a obsolete game
Either buy the 3DS version or pirate the DS version.
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>>127893186
>going chaos
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What the hell is this about the general moving to a skype group? Fuck off you circlejerking faggots.
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>>127895824
I don't even have a skype account. Don't leave me please.
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Whats the best non dlc armor for magic MC in SMT IV?
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>>127895824
>he hasn't moved to the skype group yet
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>>127896020
Why don't you look up the list of armors in SMTIV and decide for yourself?
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/r/ing the screenshot of Nanashi in a dress pls
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>>127895824
Wait, is this true?
That's pretty good news. All those faggots who came here because "only place on the internet where one can discuss SMT without Persona" and didn't even know about the glorious traditional shit of 4chan can leave and never ever come here again.
I'm moved to tears. All these threads without tumblr, it will be great.

>>127896574
>>>/wsr/
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>>127895824
"Hey! Shut up about pancakes! Like! GOD, CANT YOU GUYS TALK ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE" -u

This meme is stale. There was one faggot saying to make a skpe group and like 3 guys explaining how that'd go to shit.

Let

It

Go

M8
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>>127895824
>>127896735
Stop forcing this meme you faggots
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>>127896020
Magic builds barely need stats.
You just get 99 in magic and laugh.
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>>127881380
>>127892709
That's a BS thing that modern Christians arbitrarily decided. The whole idea of YHVH is that it is an unpronouncable substitiute for the unspeakable name of God.

>>127886684
Fuck yourself, this whole series takes tons of lore from Judaism and that poster is 100% correct.
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>>127901349
I'm at 402 MAG. I think I have a problem.
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>>127901743
>that poster is 100% correct.
>messian rubbing hands.png
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The katakana for YHVH is エホバ
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>>127905345
>E ho ba
So Jehova?
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>>127905345
That's Jehova anon
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>>127905575
Did I say it wasn't?
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>>127905345
>YHVH
>エホバ
>Ehoba
>Yeehovah
>Heehovah
>Hee ho

My god...
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>>127896574
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>>127905773
He looks ita.
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>>127905773
감사합니다
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>Finally convince wife to play SMT1
>Makes it back to nuked Shinjuku at around lvl16
>Gets jumped by level 99 Fiend David
>Hero becomes immediately smitten with David's melodies
>Law and Chaos Hero get fucking wrecked
>I remember that bosses are easily charmed in SMT1
>Give shitty advice to charm him back
>All surviving demons begin Sexy Dancing to no avail
>David plays his fiddle for multiple turns before tiring of their dancing and one-shots them each in turn
>Charmed Hero on constant life support, consuming all healing items including Soma from the Diamond Realm
>Everyone is dead, except for the transfixed Hero
>In between bouts of lovesickness, Hero manages occasional chip damage
>She manages to survive Mr. Bones' Wild Hoedown for upwards of 30 minutes until suddenly-
>DAVID
>WAS
>DEFEATED
>HERO GAINED FIVE BILLION EXP
>PLEASE DISTRIBUTE F POINTS because the points counter can't count above 9
>Breezes through the game with overleveled as fuck demons until just after the Ikebukuro prison break
>Gets bored and drops it for Bloodborne

>One year later
>Finally convince wife to play Strange Journey
>Gets to scripted Fiend David event in Bootes
>Disappointed by the ensuing pisseasy curbstomp
>Gets bored shortly thereafter and drops it for the Old Hunters DLC

goddamned skeletons
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>>127906580
>bloodborne
>SJ
She's got good taste.
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What the fuck is wrong with the encounter rate in DDS

There's a battle every three fucking steps

What the fuck
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>>127908189
get estoma
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>>127891903
> Most of the challenge is in dungeon crawling and surviving the insane encounter rate.

This, SMT1 is tedious because you'll be hitting the AUTO button most of the game.

You also can buy Nerve Bullets, that makes enemies sleep, before the nuke. You can cheese the game from start to finish.
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>>127908189
Learn to love the encounter rate, and look forward to DDS2 which cut the rate in half or more.
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>>127906580
> Get killed by David
> 1/256 chance to encounter him again
> Can't get revenge
> Some anon's wife who has no knowledge of SMT beats him.
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Google is being a shit, can someone post the SUP BITCHES MC IS BACK IN BLACK TO MACK SOME TACKS pic?
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>>127909002
This one?
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>>127909242
Yep! Thanks!
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Why do most if not all hardcore smt games lack in the story department? Great characters, but pretty shit stories. Sans persona and devil survivor.
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>>127909451
>Great characters
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>>127909451
>hardcore smt games
>sans persona

>great characters
>shit story

isthisb8
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>>127909526
Youre right, I exaggerated. Hardcore smt characters are about as dimensional as a cardboard fucking box.
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>>127909451
Characters never really are a focus or strong point.
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>>127909451
>Great characters
>Devil Survivor

About as much personality as writing a half-assed plot on tissue paper.
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>>127909694
>>127909625

do you know what sans means
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>>127909845
Do you?
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>>127909970
yeah they're saying minus
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>>127877321
>Every game
Anon, it took 11 years of Persona success before they made IV, do you really think we're getting another games after Final?
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>>127910039
And that's supposed to modify shit stories. There's no way it couldn't because even though DeSu and Persona characters tend to be poorly written as well, they still do more than just act as a vehicle for an alignment.
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>>127909625
Characters don't have to tell you their life story to be good.

For instance, I think Law/Chaos hero are better characters than Isamu and Chiaki.
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>>127909694
What did you not like about desu? >>127910163
I hope not. SMT IV was a bit of a letdown. They should reboot the entire series desu senpai
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>>127910380
That's not really saying much.
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>>127910163
SJ came out in 2009 anon.
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>>127910380
I did the Law route on SMT1 recently out of curiosity and holy shit. Watching Law Hero spiral into fanatical madness was way more depressing and horrible than I was expecting.

Law/Chaos Hero, Lilith, the Psychodiver, Red/Black Baron, Lucifer, Hiroko, Cerberus, Zayin, and tons more I'm forgetting- the initial storyline of 1-2 was supermassive in scope and had tons of great characters, hampered only by memory limitations. Even the random encounters you talk to, despite not being particularly deep, are often more unique and charming than most scripted NPCs in your average game.

Realizing that you meet and talk with almost everyone in the Hall of Champions over the course of SMT2 was a trip. A++ world building.
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>>127909451
You left out DDS.
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>>127914993
The Matrix: JRPG edition
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>>127915704
There really aren't many similarities.
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Don't know if anyone has seen this yet but: http://personacentral.com/shin-megami-tensei-iv-final-producer-teases-next-project/
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>>127917726
DDS3 confirmed!
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>>127917726
Persona 4 Dancing All Night Every Other Night confirmed!
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>>127917726
this >>127917929
or a new home-console mainline SMT
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>>127917726
Raidou 3 on the PS4 confirmed!
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>>127918158
>>127918249
3DS is just about kill and FINAL was meant to be the last milking of the system they could do, so it probably is a console game. P5's engine and assets must be far enough long to make a console game out of it.
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>>127908309
>tfw I abused Riberoma in DDS
>tfw made mad dosh and was never lacking in skills for boss fights
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>>127918712
Thank god, I want another console Megaten that isn't fucking Persona.
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Vita
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>>127890901
Its just a theory fans created while trying to connect Nocturne with the previous entries.
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SMT x Nitro+CHiRAL
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>>127919924
some kind of DeSu2 spinoff
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>>127920030
Post-Meritocracy ED were you're in JP's and fag it up with Yamato while doing various duties for him.
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>>127920030
With more bad endings, gay sex, guro and cannibalism.
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>>127920514
put it on the ps4 and it mite b cool.
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>>127920782
With gameplay kind of like Raidou? You can walk around with your kawaii uguu demons because it's a World of STR and no one gives a fuck.
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>>127921061
or like digimon cyber sleuth.
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I still think a Digimon crossover would work well with SMT
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>>127920514
>>127921061

Sounds like the perfect fujo cash-in.
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speaking of Raidou, is Gouto's backstory ever told in game? why a cat and how old is he?
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>>127921742
I'd play it and buy all the merchandises of the game.
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>>127922160
Why is this allowed?
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>>127922452
What shouldn't be allowed? The picture or the fact that somebody would play it if it were real?
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>>127920514
Still sounds better than Record Breaker.
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Could Saitama beat the Demi-Fiend?
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>>127924603
Could Goku beat Superman?
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>>127924603
Power level memeing belongs on /a/.
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>>127924889
No, Superman has laser attacks.
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>>127925607
Gohan is now an SMT protagonist.
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>>127922006
Well, actually, play the game
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>>127927381
I am and i'm wondering if it will be told in game
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>>127922006
>why a cat
Because cats are cute and marketable.
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>>127927540
Fine, I was needlessly rude. You do get your answer by the end of the game. Hope you're having fun.
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>>127927540
Are you ESL?
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>>127801175
>otome game dude
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Why do Europoors continue to support Atlus?
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>>127934045
Because if they don't then they really will never see games get localized. You don't actually believe Atlus is smart enough to realize their shit sells bad because they're terrible about bringing things over right?
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Just beat SMT IV for the first time. Law route. Final boss was piss easy.
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>>127934045
Isn't it not Atlus' fault or something?
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>>127934045
Masochism at this point. Although my humongous backlog helps with waiting for new SMT releases.
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FRIDAY NIGHT MOTHERFUCKERS
WHAT SMT ARE YOU PLAYAN/STREAMAN/EATIN
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>>127940334
I'm eating overclocked
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>>127940494
more like overCOCKED faggot
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>>127940558
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>>127940716
Never.
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>Playan
Strange Journey
>Streaman
Nothing
>Eatan
A shitty calzone. Shame because I remember this place used to serve good ones but this garbage has almost no cheese in it. Also had to wait an extra 25 minutes on it. Fuckers.
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>>127942367
>>>/v/
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>>127942468
There's no need to be rude, Anonymous.
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>>127942468
I meant to quote >>127940334.
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>>127940558
>not overcooked
You blew it, man.
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>>127940334
Playing through DDS2 again. Eating people.
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Best DDS party?
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>>127943354
Gale and Argilla in DDS1, Gale and Cielo in DDS2.

You can justify using Heat instead of Gale in DDS1 if your Serph is very magic oriented.

Of course any party can work, but Cielo is pretty trash in DDS1.
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>>127942896
I agree. It was a easy set up. Disappointment.
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>>127808303
O-O-OVERLOAD

>>127943354
World of Strength obviously, STR Serph, Heat and Gale.
Indra for DDS2 if you don't want Heat back.
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>>127945774
I find magic to be more fun in Press Turn games. Not Nocturne, because its skill system is biased against magic, but DDS and SMT IV.
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>>127946016
Magic is perfectly doable in Nocturne, just like Strength imo. Vit based skills are an afterthought sadly.

I'm gonna try to fight Satan with phys only, maybe using Gale's Severe fire spell too. Still need to get it back from my friend however.
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>>127946235
It's doable in Nocturne, but have fun with Lucifer. Isn't there only one spell that can hit him for decent damage?
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>>127946417
TDE is TDE, that doesn't make the game biased against magic. If you're going for TDE, you know what you're in for. You can still do him in with magic only, it just takes longer.
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How does Lucifer's Call run on PS3, is it widescreen or upscaled?
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>>127948856
I don't know. The framerate is fucked during fusion cutscenes though.
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>>127940334
Devil Survivor 1 on my DS
Digital Sevil Saga 1 on PS3
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>>127945774
Don't really know anything about Indra. I'm guessing s/he comes in during DDS2?

Do I have to choose between Indra and Heat, or do I get both?
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>>127950281
>Digital Sevil Saga 1 on PS3
You poor thing.
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>>127950490
He does come in DDS2 only.
Sorry for mildly spoiling you. Having Indra or Heat is dependent on your choices in both games.
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>>127950650
Why?
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>>127951025
It runs like shit and has audio sync issues in cutscenes and gameplay. It was so awful I dropped it eight hours into the first game, downloaded an emulator for the first time and played the games on PC.
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>>127951210
Haven't noticed any problems to be honest. It's running pretty smooth actually.
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>>127948856
Emulate NTSC
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>>127940334
I'm in the middle of a Nocturne replay. By the end I want to superpower a mid-game demon but I haven't done it before and I don't know how much time and macca that would take.
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>>127952338
How does that work anyway?
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>>127950690
Oh I don't care about spoilers, no worries.

As far as I know in DDS I've selected both choices to enable Heat in DDS2, I just wasn't sure if having one meant I couldn't have the other. Thanks for the information.
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>>127952473
Grinding the hell vault + mitama.
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>>127952473
>>127952796
I was thinking of making mitama from elements, and making the first batch of elements out of demons with good skills.
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>>127952636
If you do get Heat he essentially replaces Roland and uses his mantras, so if you want to use Heat you should use Roland before you get him.
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Shin Megami Tensei X Lord of the Flies
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Hee ho!

My name is Jack Frost, let's be friends.
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Shin Megami Tensei x Romance of the Three Kingdoms
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If you had to pick an artist to compose the next SMT game's OST who would it be? Has to be someone who's never worked on SMT music.
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>>127955905
Koichi Sugiyama
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>>127955905
Kanye West
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>>127955501
>not siding with Piggy
It's been like 15 years and I'm still mad.
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>>127955501
How would that work?
>Jack is Chaos
>Piggy is Law
>Simon is Neutral
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>>127955905
I REALLY want Shinji Hosoe or Masafumi Takada to work on SMT. Hosoe did work on some shitty P3 voice mix album that disappointed the hell out of me, but hey.
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>>127955905
Trent Reznor

>>127955571
Where's your brother Pyro jack ho?
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When are you expecting a localization announcement for IVF? Yuropoors need not apply.
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Is there any reliable method of recruiting demons in SMT II. I have no human allies and I desperately need a healer. Demons can two shot me at this point.
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>>127957965
I do not comprehend the question. Are you wondering when the American release date will be revealed, or what the release date will be? Or both?
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>Wonder why everyone is calling me a kid
>Look it up
>Raidou is no older than 19
He looked at least 25, but now I realize how small he really is
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>>127958424
Former.
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>>127958634
he's wearing a school uniform and his face looks girly
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>>127958674
Wouldn't be surprised if Atlus USA put it on the backburner and we get P5 first.
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>>127958118
INT to 10.
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>>127958118
no lol
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How different are the SMTIV endings?

Is there a specific ending I should go for during my first playthrough, or should I not bother with that until NG+?
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>>127965713
They're all opposites.
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>>127965713
Fairly different, and don't bother until NG+.
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>>127965713
Answer naturally and see what you get. If you aren't a dick, it will probably be law or neutral.

Neutral has the most post-lock content. Law has the least NG+ content, so do that if you're a completionist.
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the most fun part about replaying overclocked is
fighting the first Wendigo and having the game tell you that you should back off because he is far too dangerous. Then you just *teleport behind him* with a cap stats Lucifer Lv100 and hit him with 7 multi-strike attacks all doing 30k+ damage, he lives with 1hp and then the absolute madman will tell you that this is not over
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>>127967506
I always look forward to kicking his ass, but I'm only on my second replay and I'm already tired of the early days.
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>>127968012
the early days just consist of me spamming the A button honestly
I tried out every answer once and now I'm just skipping through all early dialogues
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>>127958118
Racial profile the fuck out of each type of demon until you can accurately predict what they're going to want to hear.
>>127962048
THIS
10 Mag 10 Int ASAP
You'll hate yourself and everything else if you don't.
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>>127968159
You don't have to hit A. You can hold L and R to skip (might need to enable it in the options). The tedious parts are the easy battles that consist of using multi-strike 5 times.

Fuck Midori and her unskippable animations, though. Worst character.
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>>127968679
>Racial profile

wow
rude
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>>127940334

>Playing

Soul Hackers on my 3D's

>Eating

Magatama.
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>>127966197
>ban a man from sports for being tall
>+1 law
>we r gud guyz
Fucking lawfags.
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>>127969285
Law gets a lot of points for social niceties, which is why non-dicks are likely to lean towards it. Like the beginning of the game with its

>Extend arm (law)
>Don't extend arm (Chaos)

SMT 4 really could have used some Neutral dialog or at least it could have not tied alignment points to everything.
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>>127969585
Strange Journey did the same thing. In general, moral or sensible decisions give you law points or no points (neutral) while most chaos decisions are Coldsteel-tier.
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Doesn't anyone find it funny that the first two SMT games and Devil Summoner, MAG is a stat you can raise but is completely lost on the Protagonist because he never learns any magic?
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>>127969926
No, because I understand game mechanics.
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>>127969897
There's something that bugs me about this actually. People shit on IV for a lot of things Strange Journey introduced and then turn around and dicksuck it.
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>>127970146
It's all because of the dungeons. Really, Strange Journey is weaker than IV in a lot of ways. Combat is worse. Story is arguably worse, at least until the end of the game. Fusion is less deep than Nocturne's or SMT IV's. Boss fights mostly boil down to just fusing demons of the same alignment with the boss' weakness, except for a few great and a few bullshit fights in the late game. Soundtrack is definitely worse. Side quests are far worse.

But Strange Journey has great dungeons whereas IV arguably doesn't have dungeons at all.
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>>127970394
In a perfect world demon domains would have been SJ-tier dungeons. A shame.
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>>127970394
Removing random encounters was pretty great too.
IV was a little too easy but I'd love to see an SMT with the dungeons of SJ and everything else of IV.
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So can /smtg/ explain why they're always sucking Raidou's dick?
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>>127970594
I wouldn't go that far. I don't like how SMT IV completely freedom'd up the fusion system. I'd prefer something like Nocturne's with all the restrictions but without having to shuffle the fusion over and over until you get the skills you want. I hear P4G works that way.

And then of course you have the MP for physical attacks they kept in IV, and gave physical demons low MP as well.
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>>127970705
Lack of VIT made the game really odd. Demon health and MP was just a ratio so you just favored demons with balanced HP/MP ratio on casters and maybe a little more HP for physical attackers.
I don't see anything wrong with the fusion system other than that luster candy and debilitate are way too easy to get. What changes did you have in mind there?
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>>127970594
>I'd love to see an SMT with the dungeons of SJ and everything else of IV
You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one.
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>>127970926
I'd like more bullshit bosses like SJ too. IV fusion would make preparing for it pretty easy.
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>>127970860
In a game like Nocturne, a fused demon has starting skills and those are non-negotiable. You can overwrite them once the demon levels up and has their skill slots filled out, but not during fusion. You also cannot carry over as many skills as you want - it depends on how much you've leveled up the demons that are to be fused together. This rewards planning and ensures that no matter how well you fuse your demon it will still have inherent skills that set it apart.

In SMT IV you can fuse two demons you just acquired together, carrying over 8 skills from one demon and 0 from the other, basically just transplanting the demon into another skin. There's no sense of loss.

And then you have the ability to transplant all sorts of ice skills onto extremely fire oriented demons that in previous entries wouldn't be able to inherit them.

I'd just prefer the Nocturne system without having to spend half an hour shuffling my fusion.
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>>127970594
I agree with this mostly. My ideal game would also tune up Smirk and add restrictions to what skills can be passed to demons. That, and/or the affinity system and nerfs to how Resist/Null/Reflect/Drain element stacks against being weak. Might be alone on that last one though. And definitely make phys skills use HP again and bring back VIT. Overall IV did a lot of stuff right though.
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>>127970705
>I don't like how SMT IV completely freedom'd up the fusion system
Considering how Atlus has messed around with the fusion system with other games (Persona Q comes to mind), you could say that this issue is already getting fixed.
I also consider that the old system of shuffling through menus until you get a decent, let alone the exact combination that you want is far from ideal.

For example, in PQ, mage demons cannot learn physical skills, and Jack Frost cannot learn agi skills. The only thing it lacked was the advanced searching system of IV or the DeSu remakes.
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>>127971227
>nerfs to how Resist/Null/Reflect/Drain element stacks against being weak.
What do you mean by this? Something like a demon being weak to ice not becoming totally immune to ice simply because you fused a null Ice onto it, instead simply losing its weakness?
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>>127824008
Not yet. I got distracted with Bloodborne, but I'll finish sometime in the next few days. Thanks for asking.
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>Grind the shit out of Raksha's in the Heavenly King temple south of Shinjuku
>Remember that the Renki no Ken is not the Kusanagi Tsurugi and therefore is useless to me
Well, time for bed then
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>>127971641
Yeah, and resist still leaves you weak, but instead of taking say 2x damage it takes 1.5x. The problem is I have a hard time imagining how they'd make a difference between Null, Drain, and Reflect in such cases. It just seems silly to me that a demon that's weak to an element can become able to null the damage from it, or shit even heal from it. Bugs me even more than them being able to learn attacking skills of those elements really.
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Adachi fig review
http://myfigurecollection.net/blog/26353

I know some dude wanted one, I still think it looks shit.
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>>127971889
Sometimes demons weak to an element will naturally learn to void that element though.
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>>127955905
Tim Follin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_gObHt1uZA&index=1&list=PLs8ECUWuwp5FDm4lYvKCBjhSMyalV1qq1
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>>127973020
High Pixie, Inugami, and ...?
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Urgh.

How can you guys like these games when there are not even social links, or breaks between dungeons?
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>>127973456
DEE DOUBLE YEW
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>>127973456
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>>127973456
Shiisa probably.
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>>127973606
Is this from the video where Demi Friend, Raidou and YHVH fight?
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>>127973768
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFNBMLtP2Ok
It's from this one. I haven't seen that one, actually.
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>>127973549
here's ur you
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>>127973879
That video is just what I needed to watch.
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>>127973913
I just watched a review from an older megaten and I had to get that comment off my chest, sorry.
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>>127975036
Why does it surprise you that a long established genre of video games has fans?
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>>127975303
Nah anon, sorry if you got me wrong.

The review itself said that, and that made me angry.
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>>127975507
Ah, my bad.
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I tried playing SMT 1, And when does antiques guy sell guns.

I'm unsure how the patch works because it's in same folder as game copy yet I still can't get guns oddly enough. Going through echo building atm
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>>127978139
Also, Bnes won't read SMC, only SFc
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I want to fug Nekomata
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>>127978698
GET YOUR OWN WOMEN, HUMAN.

YOU ARE REALLY PISSING ME OFF. I THINK I'LL JUST HAVE TO KILL YOU.
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>>127978698
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>>127979378
delete this
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>>127979741
>nekomata smirks
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Alright fuckers, time for the age old question.
wich demon wud u fug
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>>127981348
Tiamat.
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>>127981348
Pic related always. Asherah would be my second choice.
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>>127981348
i'd choose chaos and then watch myself in the mirror while i jack it
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It's 7 in the morning.

I wasted my whole night playing Soul Hackers

Also

>>127981348
Pic related.
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>>127956940
>forgetting best jack
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Uh guys, Bunny got a little too deep in all that pussy and he hooked a certain someone that dosent want to be shared
Lets just say alice might want him to "die for her"

s-should I warn him?
or does he deserve this
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>>127981348
Lilim
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>>127981348
Lilith.

Only true answer

>>127978139
Well I got everything Sorted except using the save state from my unpatched to patched.

that and using anything other than purify to play patched.

How do I move BST files to different roms?
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DON'T DIE FUCK
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>>127990343
Slow today, isnt it?
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>>127990518
>today
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>>127981348
Leanan Sidhe and all that hair.
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I'm going to start DDS1 right now, how long and difficult is the game? I want to know if I should really start now or wait until I finish other games I started before.
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>>127991341
like 15 hours
pretty easy if you're prepared for bosses (right elemental skills/resists), still easy if not but will require a bit of grinding
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Wake up.
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dont die faggets.

Is there a list of damage and what each shell does online?

Is it worth it buying everyone shotgun shells at this point?
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>>127991341
It's relatively short, certainly shorter than Nocturne, SJ, and IV. Prepare for a bizarre-ass encounter, though.
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>>127996995
That should be bizarre-ass encounter rate and god damn that shit can get tedious at times.
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>>127920514
Sounds like it could potentially turn out fun depending on execution.
Just don't make me interact with the other retards again or only minimally.
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SMT V for VITA
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>>128000739
Nobody owns a Vita.
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>>128000739
PS4 please. That or 3DS.
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>>128000739
my dad says it's going to be on super nintendo
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Was P1 the last Atlus game on PC or what?
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>>128001282
Idk when was the P1 PC release?
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>>127969102
>You don't have to hit A. You can hold L and R to skip
I hate myself. I asked about it when I got the game but no one answered.
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>>127984801
>Adachi
Made me laugh.
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>>127993170
Only 15 hours? I thought it would be just a bit less than 40 hours because it's written that it's 40 hour long on the game's box. I don't think I need to wait until the next break to play it then.

>>127996995
I just played it to see if it works and completed the first dungeon, I agree with you on the encounter rate. Though I've gotten used to P2's encounter rate and the battles are faster so I think it'll be fine.
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>>128000739
>>128000932
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>>128002798
Thank yu, saved.
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>>128002893
You are welcome anon.
Someone tell me to stop hunting monsters and start hunting demons instead.
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>>127981348
Moh Shuvuu
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Why are Yamato and Ronaldo such enormous faggots?
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>>128001939
1999, japan only.
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>>127981348
Ame no Uzume
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>>128003371
Imagine came out in 2007 I think so that would be the most recent PC Megaten.
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>>128003612
Damn I forgot about that game lmao. I miss it now.
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demifiend sure is tall
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>>127978139
>I'm unsure how the patch works because it's in same folder as game copy yet I still can't get guns oddly enough.
Honestly I still think this is still broken in the Orden patch, as sometimes he sells them right away, sometimes not at all. In the PS version, he starts selling them right after you get out of the hospital.
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>>127996720
>Is it worth it buying everyone shotgun shells at this point?
Not really, just steal Heroine's sleep bullets before Tokyo explodes, then buy them in ruined Tokyo.
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>>128003320
Better than Daichi. At least they aren't indecisive.
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Also, I think the PS version of SMT1 is actually balanced, in that X-Y attack guns only hit an enemy a maximum of 1 times, making status bullets MUCH weaker.
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>>128003320
Ronaldo is an enormous faggot because he's the DeSu2 equivalent of Law. Yamato is an enormous faggot because he wants nothing more than to get bent over his desk and receive some gratituous bunny dicking.
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DeSu Overclocked is not as fun of a game as you make it out to be. I've been playing for about an hour and it's pretty boring and I like SRPGs.
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>>128000739
>>128001067
>tfw I own a Vita for Persona and 3DS for every other SMT game

Handhelds are great.
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>>128008786
the type of edge in it sits well with teenagers and its often babby's first megaten.
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What do you think of having a quest list in SMT games?
I personally wish they had them, i forget what I'm doing too easily
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>>128008786
I'm sorry to hear that. I'm having a blast with the game. Sure, the gameplay is a bit dated and it sucks that you have no choice in party composition until day 7, but I'm loving the story and atmosphere.
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>>128009491
Play IV then
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>>128009491
Literally SMT IV

That said, IV overdid it. I like having the list there, but the AI pops up at all moments to remind you of the quests and it ruins the mood at times.
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>>128008786
I used to think the same way.
But in DeSu OC the more you progress, the better it becomes.
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>>127917726
Catherine sequel or successor, calling it now.
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I thought DeSu's battles were fun after Beldr. I didn't care for most of the story sequences and the game didn't click with me until my fifth attempt.
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I have to wonder how old the average poster here is if they think Overclocked's story is amazing.
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>>128009491
>What do you think of having a quest list in SMT games?
I love getting lost without keeping track of my shit in the game. It's incentive to keep yourself invested with what's going on constantly.

I always use graph paper for maps and write down missions in a notepad for the older SMT games. Feels pretty good.
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>>128010356
Four more to go!
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>>128010854
It doesn't matter, you would disregard them anyways.
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>>128010356
Congratulations on killing all your friends!
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this general goes full defense force if you say you don't like overclocked or even slightly criticize it.
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this general goes full defense force if you say you don't like strange journey or even slightly criticize it.
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>>128012342
This general hates Strange Journey now, are you surprised? If you ever enter a DeSu thread on /v/ it's all Overclocked circlejerking, waifuposting, and complaining about other SMT games being for hipsters.
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>>128008786
>>128010854
>>128012342
amazing
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>>128012663
I did go into one once and it was full of "Strange Journey is for hipsters" shit.

Guess we know who that comes from now.
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>>128012342
>>128012661
I go full defense force if anyone talks shit about Soul Hackers.

It's only natural to get upset over a game you like being criticized when you clearly think otherwise.
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>>128012663
I don't hate SJ. I just think it's pretty weak in some regards. It's got a good plot and dungeons.
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>>128012663
fucking right on cue lmao!! >>128012661
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>>128012935
DeSu babbys always go for Strange Journey. >>128012867 is right.
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>>128006023
They definitely reworked the later versions for the better. I recall not being able to charm or easily stunlock bosses in the iOS version, although I may be remembering incorrectly.
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Is it possible to re-visit your house in SMT after the Nuke? It's too late for me, Tokyo is under the sea.
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>>128010854

Probably pretty young. See >>128012935
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>>128013087
The only way the PS version is easier is that you have unlimited inventory. A nice convenience, but only lets you carry more of the shitty useless healing items, and the only real benefit is not having to toss magic stones for incenses or armors. Other than that, the PS version is actually moderately challenging and has required me to actually use demons.

>>128013152
Nah, most of Kichijoji is blown out, I'm not sure if there's anything left in that area of Tokyo.
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>>128013304
Man, SMT1 is a sad game.
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>>128013152
Unfortunately no. I was hoping that smug fuckeroo would still be standing at the intersection, informing me about how a murderer was arrested here.
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>>128013232
anyone engaging in this kind of discussion is childish
it doesn't matter how old you are it could be a 80 year old man trashtalking
but arguing with someone over opinions is immature at all ages.
If someone enjoys DSO let him and if someone doesn't enjoy hit let him do that as well
I like DSO because it has a non forced 3 stage lucifer battle that is actually enjoyable
+ the original game was created for the NDS a horrible machine itself. I'm surprised its playable at all.
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>>128013557
> Standing in the intersection for 30 years.
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>>128013375
I was just noticing earlier that the JSDF base from SMT 4 is the same base that Gotou occupies in 1.
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>>128013572
>can't take criticism
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>>128013671
That man was dedicated to his cause.

>>128013304
>the PS version is actually moderately challenging and has required me to actually use demons.
Well shit, I'm going to have to play that now too.
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>>128013702
>can't read
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>>128013304
How's the PS1 version of SMT2? I don't want to play another nintendo game.
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>>128013076
>WAAAH WAAAH! He doesn't like my favorite shin megoomi tensei game!! He's obivously way too young to post here! Only reason he could dislike MY favorite game is because he's an edgy 12 year old!!
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>DeSu babbys think this is good writing
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>>128013909
If you remember where to go, the PS version's not that tough to play. The items/spells have tooltips to remind you what they do, and if you can read katakana you can battle well enough. Hell, I got through Devil Summoner off the same basic knowledge.

>>128014052
Haven't jumped into that one yet, I started IF.. and SMT1 and ended up just playing 1/2 through SMT1 because it's so good.
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>>128014174
>helping their case
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>>128014224
Naoya was like some deviantart kid's Shadow the Hedgehog expy
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I want SMT2 iOS localization dammit
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Welp. I smell a shit storm coming.

Before I fuck off to play some games, I want to let you know that the two sides of this argument are children. Both SJ and DeSu are solid games.
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>>128014860
>Devil Survivor
>a solid game
>dat shitty piss easy gameplay
>solid
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>>128014518
Yeah, people love to hate on Yamato but he's better than that edgelord hands down. DeSu got some great characters but Naoya ain't one of them. The super deep voice isn't helping either.

Also, what the fuck is Honda's deal? He shows up as a desperate office worker, then the next moment he's suddenly Kaidou's stone cold sidekick. Though at least he got a good voice actor.
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>>128015057
I thought Loki was funny but that's all I could tolerate Naoya for.
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>>128014251
That's great to hear, been meaning to check out Devil Summoner but was hesitant for related reasons. Just have to learn kanji faster so I can negotiate properly.

>>128014052
I haven't played it but the petty thing that keeps bugging me is how literally they handled the new background art. In the SFC version Millennium battle backgrounds, you get weird fairy lights over bodies water and it overall has a surreal/comfy Monkey Island 2 pixel art vibe to it. In the PSX version they're just like "they're fucking streetlights, now piss off". Minor complaint that has nothing to do with gameplay but it gets under my skin.

>>128014553
Fuck Atlus USA. I need my goddamn Visionary Item scenes already, especially *THAT* one.
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