/ps2g/ - PlanetSide 2 general

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2st for burg

>>127732163
hoped his bonus check covered that.

>aurax ass magic rifle
>DasAutism gives me the leet cheevo for unlocking the Aurax battle rifle
>but not the "it's good, I swear" one for auraxing the normal one
>says I was last online negative six hours ago

Even the stat site knows BRs are shit.

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>>127732631
>implying the NC ever actually get their bonus checks

>>127732957
>still has VS logos
rip

LIVE YOU ASSHOLES, ANTS ARE COMING SOON
YOU GOTTA LIVE

what launcher should i get for tr heavy to replace the one i have?

i tried the annihilator and it was fun but is that the best anti air?

>>127734004
shhh
only despair now

>>127734110
Swarm
But get the Grounder, or you'll really learn to miss your dumbfire

>see inf flying from biolab towards base landing pad
>as he lands he instantly kills me with his short range BASR

fug

>>127736920
u got elusived

>>127736371
swarm is better than annihilator?

>>127737651
Faster projectiles and slightly better damage if they all hit
I do prefer the annihilator because alpha damage, but the swarm is a bit more fun

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>>127732957

>>127558474
>Nobody wants to be that guy who tells people they're retarded
Except AC, DA and other tryhards. Half of their posts are "lol air better, shitter. You're opinion is invalid because my stats are higher than yours"

>>127739339
Even when your stats are better than theirs, they'll try to move the goalposts and come up with something, anything, that makes them superior to you.

The opinions of every single AC, DA, and every other tryhard arguing from a position of superiority should be outright ignored.

>>127739372
>MCY ops night.jpg

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O B S O L E S C E N C E

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>>127719823
Can confirm.

For example, in the entertaining "discussion" I had with a couple people regarding the Dalton's over-use as an anti-air weapon, in which I was mass downvoted to -5 or so for the attached image.

I was told:
1. Because you have to aim it, and its KPH is below Tomcats, it's balanced.
2. It doesn't do better than the A2A ESF noseguns (Yet it's ~2x better if you actually look at the pic)
3. It's only "maybe" better at A2A if you're shooting other libs/galaxies
4. The Rotary ESF Noseguns are shit at A2A and comparisons should only be made with the other noseguns
5. The dalton is used for anti-ground stuff so "of course it has a higher KPH" (outright disregarding the stats are aircraft kph)

I stopped getting responses after pointing out that the dalton was killing more aircraft than dedicated anti-air weapons like the skyguard or G2A launchers.

The PS2 devs need to take reddit's advice with a grain of salt. They have no fucking clue what they're talking about and the retarded vote system leads to knee-jerk hysterics and hyperbole getting catapulted to the top of every thread while reasoned discussion is buried.

>>127739715
Sprjork Karlstrom pls, this is an English imageboard.

>>127739828
Benis :DDD

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>>127739781
Oh and can't forget:

6. Showing the VS dalton stats is biased, thus invalidating the graphs completely.

>>127739372
A sneaky scythe could get a LOT of ramming kills there

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>>127739715
>The banshee was once amazing
Yes. It's still usable if you're not retarded.

Dumb redditorposters.

Where do I find 12 friends to run a squad with?
I wanna fly Valkyries

>>127739715
infantry farming tools have been nerfed for a reason. they should be limited as fuck imo. vehicles and infantry should be generally separate.

>>127739781
>air shitters whining about getting instagibbed.

sorry if i don't care. Dalton should stay the way it is, just so you remember what if feels like to have to worry about some cheese OHK you out of nowhere.

>not a single piece of news in the
OP
Kill yourselves you unimaginative pricks

>>127743140
v8

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Emerald has massive amounts of salt and it is delicious.

>>127743140
Better than your cluttered cuck mess

>>127742571
I hate ESF's as much as anyone else, that doesn't change the fact the dalton is in an asinine balance position right now.

So why hasn't the the air hammer gotten nerfed yet? The thing is by far the best AI nose gun and is also viable if not OP against other ESF's.

Even the pre-nerf Banshee wasn't able to excel in air vs air like the AH does and yet it still got nerfed within 1-2 months.

>>127750110
Because NC is the toddler faction and taking away anything of theirs that is good is like taking away a really loud and annoying toy one of your stupid fucking relatives gave your kid after saying "oh boy, he'll sure be a noisemaker! Haha!" while giving you a wink at his birthday party. Sure, it's the best thing to do, but your kid will cry and the one who gave them the stupid toy will feel somewhat miffed about you having to deal with it because of them.

Which faction is most in need of players on Emerald?

>>127750389
>one who gave them the stupid toy will feel somewhat miffed about you having to deal with it because of them
Higby is gone now, we can nerf the NC all we want.

>>127750645
Not NC.

>>127750389
Pls do not bully my faction you rude shiTR. This toddler would shit on you 100 % in any honorabru fight.

>>127742398
>infantry farming tools have been nerfed for a reason
yeah, none of the devs know how to put a fucking roof over a base or setup an "interior" layout that is NOT boring shit, and especially NOT bombarded by tanks/aircraft from the outside.

> PS1 base interior fights will never exist in PS2
Muh exterior eye-candy base layouts
Muh vehicle camping providing vehicle whores something to do (despite the fact that a "king of the hill" capture type that would include vehicles could solve this by giving vehicles something to do)

>>127750110
It has already been nerfed once and that was to prevent it from one clipping other ESF's

>>127751112
It still does because they increased the magazine size :^)

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>>127751071
> PS1 base interior fights will never exist in PS2
So you want to trade vehicle spam for grenade spam?

>>127751258
>So you want to trade vehicle spam for grenade spam?
Can't grenade every doorway forever, and can't get a grenade splash into every corner either.

Of course if the grenade actually managed to kill its fucking target on the first one thrown without a giant blinking "HOLY SHIT RUN AWAY" signal (that shows up even without EOD implant being used!) the second one wouldn't be thrown immediately after either.

Now if only it was possible for people to accept that grenades costing resources is a terrible balance meme, the grenade bandoleer might actually change to limit you back down to 1 grenade but let them regen automatically (obviously medic revive grenades use old rules) so you'd only encounter a max of 1 grenade from 1 player at a minimum of ~20 second intervals.

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I really wish i could run this game at max settings.

>>127751195
The only people capable of one clipping others with post nerf AH is QRY

>>127752527
lololol

>>127750110
It hasn't been nerfed because it's not an actual balance issue.

The problem with it, much like NC's other shotgun weapons, is that it's frustrating to die from it.

But in actual performance terms, it's being outdone by the VS LPPA by a large margin, and only gains any kind of an edge (barely) in ESF kills.

Personally, I would just nuke all the ESF anti-infantry noseguns. Get rid of that shit, ESF's should be superiority fighters, not farming tools.

But that would also hurt the VS players who keep bringing up 'balance issues' with NC airhammers. Y'all can't have your cake and eat it too. Both the Airhammer and LPPA need nerfs, possibly the banshee as well.

>>127753006
>Both the Airhammer and LPPA need nerfs, possibly the banshee as well.
>possibly the banshee as well.
Why should anyone take the advice of someone who definitely hasn't used one of the guns in question and most likely hasn't used the other two?

>>127753101
speak for yourself

esf anti infantry guns can all die in a fucking fire

>>127753434
Maybe, but at the moment the Banshee is little more than a rotary with shitty enough COF to allow a user with shit aim to land some shots on infantry without being able to aim much.

>>127739339
>>127739526
>These triggered shitters

Its so funny that we dunk on you bads so much to the point that you have to mention our outfits on an anonymous board.

Learn to aim. Learn to position. Learn to get headshots. Once you master these tings, I guarantee that you won't have to shed tears on 4chan ever again.

>>127753565
Lex goddammit, I changed the lock on the cuck shed just so you wouldn't get out again, how the hell do you keep slipping away?

>>127753565
lex pls go

What are best outfits to join on Emerald outside of the spastic ones?

AC - Legit Autism. They literally spend thousands on the game(after crying about how bad it is) and play for 8 hours straight.
DA - Topkek. Bunch of tryhards and hackers.

Any other outfits to join other than the autistic ones listed above?

>>127753821
notorious is the number one outfit on emerald


they have the best infantry and vehicle players on emerald


notorious number#1

>>127753821
AODR

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>>127753880
this tbqh

also theres no minorities in n

>>127739526
Maybe you should stop being a shitter with your 12% accuracy and your 0.8 k/dr.

Once you understand the game, then maybe you wont get stomped by DA.

Shitter.

>>127754041
>no minorities in n
trannies are a minority

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>>127753880
>notorious is the number one outfit on emerald
>On a server with AC and DA

k.

>>127754116
yeah but they're not niggers or jews :^)

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>>127754059

>>127754170
niggers and jews, gender confused- what's the difference

>>127754173
>preppingthebull.png

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>>127754151

I remember when it was all about sexy spandex butts and muh freedoms.

Now it's just autistic try-hard clans that change the squad waypoints every 2 minutes.

>>127754313
>AC and DA aren't even the top outfits in VS
top kek

how do i aim at shit when i'm flying an esf

pitch up/down is super sensitive and my mouse barely moves the crosshair

>>127754427
Welcome to PS2!

>>127754170
technically, anti-semitists are a minority too

>>127754528
not a racial one, though

you can uncuck ideologies, but not nature

>>127753565
>>127754059
You both just proved his point

Not sure if retards or pretending to be retards.

>>127754313
>>127754434
>shitters actually look at that list as if it means anything.

Thats actually the point im trying to get across. You shitters have absolutely no idea what it takes to be good at the game. Then when you get shit on, you cry hacks.

>>127754659
cuck

>>127754659
cuck

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>>127754659
>he takes Planetside 2 seriously

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>>127734004

I remember when there would always be swarms of aircraft in the sky.

Epic dogfights were a common thing.

What happened?

>>127755028
Flyboys got buttflustered.

>>127755028
Still there, they just found out that there were more certs to be had pointing at the ground.

>>127754495
help

i know some of you can fly

>>127755028
I remember when every good fight was constantly camped by podfaggots who could one hit kill you with a single direct hit rocket

claymore nerf when?

>>127756668
its already the easiest mine to see

>>127756730
unless you place it like an actual mine

behind doorways, stairs, boxes, etc.

then it's a guaranteed kill on SOMEONE because it's not enough for it to have a longer detonation range and no warning, it has to do more damage, too

>>127756787
Not him but I really don't care if it's balanced. It's fun to get free kills. I even have claymores and utility pouch on my default engi loadout. It's not like many people use them anyways :^)

>>127756787
they are more restrictive where you can place them, and do more damage as the tradeoff.

>memerald posters
jesus christ what a bunch of shitters

>>127757073
>they are more restrictive where you can place them
as opposed to proxies and betties, which you can place anywhere and have them do nothing?

>>127757073
>and do more damage as the tradeoff.
literally no one cares about the higher damage
what makes claymores so much better is the instant trigger

>>127757828
>literally no one cares about the higher damage
it means you have less of a chance of just grazing the outside of the blast and living, like you can do easily with the other two mines

>>127757828
>Proxies/Betties
+place nearly anywhere there is foot traffic
+can be used offensively if need arises
-large glowy models
>claymores
+can be placed on the edge of doorways completely invisible if done right
+blends with most objects like generators
+directional has a larger distance and higher damage
+less chance to harm self if blown up
+no glowy lasers or lights like the other two mines
+triggers with nearly zero warning
-very slightly more situational than the other two

>>127741720
Find an outfit that is both not too shitter to coordinate, and yet not so elite as to get butthurt over hurting their k/d and spm in the flying deathtrap.

The claymore is meant to have a little red laser on it, it used to. Did they remove that?

>>127763027
Yes, ages ago.

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>roadkills on cloaked infs
delicious

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>>127763148
>the Gatekeeper has the same TER-REP decal as weapon sights

What does it say under that?

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that was totally intentional

>>127763356
See, this is the problem I have against the Prowler. With the Vanguard or Magrider, you couldn't have done that, you wouldn't have enough DPS. It would have taken at least 2.8x the time to do it (so 72 seconds) which is completely ridiculous. I'm tired of this pro-TR bias of the devs, I'm so fucking done. Bye, /ps2g/.

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>>127763257
here's another frame from the original video
"The legal right to be only the to"
"reproduce [space] ? ? ?"

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>>127763539
shut up, it's actually horrendously UP

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>>127763603
I hopped on for a second myself to see; I read it as

>The legal rights to be [double space] only one to
>reproduce [larger space] and/ or ???

>>127741720
>I wanna fly Valkyries
Forget about it. This playerbase is way too retarded for such a teamplay vehicle. I have the Valk almost auraxiumed and it is still basically unplayable to me thanks to this completely incompetent playerbase.

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>>127763915
>get in VR to maybe get a better look at it (didn't work, that's as good as the texture gets)
t. alberto barbosa

>>127764294
Oh hey, I had a similar bug except when I equipped the Gatekeeper it got overlaid by its own 2d interface icon.

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>>127763915
The kept rights to be only are W reproduce and or VR

>>127764471
Kept rights? No way, that clearly says legal rights. Protip for identifying text: look at the spacing and how letter stems go up or down.

Plus kept rights doesn't even make sense.

>>127764591
>Plus kept rights doesn't even make sense.
Why, the rest does?

>>127764696
There could be a texture seam running down the side of the P and between the two spaces in the text. Won't know for sure unless someone finds the spot in the texture sheets, but "The legal rights to be..." and "...only one to reproduce..." are perfectly reasonable parts of a sentence.

>>127764591
It still wouldn't make sense. Anyways, writing random words and blurring it just enough to be unreadable is normal when making video game textures.

>>127764783
If that's ultra textures, finding the actual texture file isn't ginna help much. Only the original high-poly model made by SOE would be more readable.

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>>127765045
Yeah, it's ultra.

>>127764860
It's normal, but usually it's lorem ipsum type stuff- and you can find readable text (and other stuff like old redeploy screens) in lots of the existing textures, it's just hidden in game by overlay effects or not being used on the model (i.e. that TER-REP 0107 part shows up on a number of TR weapon sights, but I've never seen the text under it before).

I prefer the green LCD screen that the flash has on it's actual model to the crappy ES screens we see when sitting on them.

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>>127739339
The op is absurd. Everyone wants to be that guy who tells people they're retarded. It's half the fucking sport. And 75-80% (depending on faction) of the people calling other people retarded are also fully retarded. Most being completely unaware.

>>127765930
I haven't even ridden a Flash in so long. Does it still have the gear selector doodad on the HUD like in beta?

>>127766508
Does that still work for any vehicle? I'd forgotten all about sundie speed-starts

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Seems pretty balanced to me, I have no idea what these shitters are whining about.

>>127766793
All these numbers and yet in-game the Vanguard and Maggie are still a match for the Prowler.

It's like...high DPS is the Prowler's advantage and when comparing that to the other MBTs without accounting for their abilities in return doesn't give a complete picture. Huh!

>>127754659
Every shitter parses the stats to argue they are "'good at the game". If you play for the stat, you aren't playing the game. If you play the game, and still have good stats then you get a cookie. You have dipshit outfits that think a successful point hold against overpopped but uncoordinated random lone wolfs is some kind of talent. Players with a billion base defenses and one base assault bragging about their KDR. Players setup only to improve HSR. All that bounce out of the fight once their stat starts getting hurt. Its all rubbish. Stats only relate to anything useful on objective oriented players. Proof: memerald serversmash performance.

>>127766793
>prowler has 280% dps of vanguard
>doesn't kill 280% more vanguards than vanguards kill prowlers
just worse players

>>127766993
>yet in-game the Vanguard and Maggie are still a match for the Prowler
You know what's really funny? All Prowler guns outscore VS and NC primaries according to most stats.

>>127767264
>doesn't kill 280% more vanguards than vanguards kill prowlers
No, but a comfortable 20-30%, that it sure does.

>>127755028
A2A locks when high, G2A locks when low, both A/G in the the middle. Ground farming a large fight does take a little skill now.

>>127767357
>All Prowler guns outscore VS and NC primaries according to most stats.
Prowler shoots twice so has two chances to rack up a kill.

>>127767357
Banshee treatment incoming. Prowler is not balanced until it scores 50% of Vanguard and Mag.

>That fucking discussion on steam forums about buffing adrenaline pump to 30% bonus

And if you bring up the Surge implant and why that's a fucking awful idea they shout at you and report you for trolling. Why is mentioning Planetside 1 verboten?

>>127767357
What would you even do to the Prowler? No where else besides the 3-4 posters in /ps2g/ who believe it do people think the same way. I have never, ever met anyone who thought the Prowler was as bad as you make it out to be since before HE was nerfed for the first time.

So what would you do the "balance" it? Would you reduce the DPS to the level of the magrider/vanguard? If that's the case, then you have to take away the downside of zero mobility and rework anchor mode into something like overdrive, because otherwise it's useless.

On a side not, not a single webm you have posted with you in your "OP" Prowler have you done anything another MBT or vehicle couldn't have done.

>>127767901
*note

>>127766743
Not sure; I only drive a Lightning and I never tried it there. I know it was apparently super useful on the Vanguard; any burgers around to answer?

>>127767604
this is top tier b8 and i commend you for spamming it

>>127768163
Can you refute it? It's not bait. If you and a friend are shooting at a guy, he's using a battle rifle and you're using an automatic weapon, who is more likely to land the killing shot?

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>>127768280
A Prowler, probably. Because the battle rifle fires too slow and the auto rifle has too much R I D I C U L O U S bloom to be able to stay on target.

>>127768368
Can you truly refute the point without avoiding it with meme pictures and witty oneliners, though?

>>127768440
I'm not even the guy you were arguing with, I just wanted to make the joke.


Because Battle Rifles are seriously fucking awful, using those in a discussion in any form should be like pulling the Hitler card.

>>127768490
Hitler did nothing wrong, though.

Why did Koreans go to Connery and not Miller? Netherlands and California have equal distance from Korea.

>>127768591
I'm not saying he did, I mean the old adage about how the longer an argument goes on, the more likely it is someone will be compared to Hitler.

>"You're literally worse than Hitler! I hate you!"

>"This gun is L I T E R A L L Y worse than a battle rifle! I hate it!"

Just like hitler did nothing wrong, battle rifles aren't actually that bad.

>>127768793
Is there any situation where you'd actually WANT one, though?

I mean, I felt the Eidolon was okay, but I was crutching like a motherfucker on its lack of bullet drop and know I would have done way worse with the AMR or Warden. It was neat counter-sniping snipers who were too dumb to move, but if I didn't have a BR I would have just not shot them or gotten out of sight, and if I wasn't playing HA standing around plinking at them just puts a 'shoot me' sign on your forehead.

>>127768969
When my Prowler gets blown up by invisible motherfuckers on an open field

I'm forcing myself to main the GD Guardian after going through all the hard work of finally unlocking it and in many ways I wish I were just using the warden but cest la vie non?

Using battle rifles for a good while now I've come to have a sort of respect for them, they're powerful weapons but they aren't crutch weapons. The guardian isn't going to pull my ass out of a fire that I didn't see coming but it can certainly put a motherfucker into that fire if you get what I mean.
I appreciate having average capability at all ranges in exchange for losing superiority in any one of them, that isn't for everyone obviously but it suits my playstyle on medic and engie perfectly.

You can run around a corner and drill two bullets into the head of an enemy then turn around and counter-snipe with the very same gun thanks to the magic of the meme-scope.

>>127763027
has green lasers still sometimes if you play on ultra-ish

Have they fixed the prowler bug? It was working last night but I can't seem to get it as of this morning.

>>127773305
>the prowler bug
?

>>127774485
If you entered and exited the vehicle as both the main gun and the secondary gun were reloading there was a chance the secondary gun would start reloading as fast as the main gun. I couldn't get it working on any other MBT so I assume it was prowler specific.

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>get memekeeper
>gunners can actually aim (sometimes)
>breddy gud
you guys were right, guess i'll use this over my newbie-powered fairy/air detection system

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>>127738804

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>mans on the planet
>going slow
"ayy lmao"

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>tfw got burgerized

Guys. I'm looking for a movie. The only thing I've ever seen from it is a gif.
Something like this: "Started planetside for the first time, expected a mix of Avatar and battlefield, what i got" and then a video of the movie. Anyone know what I'm talking about?

>>127777539
edge of tomorrow

>>127777636
Thank you!

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>>127777539
everytime

>>127777636
It's basically a mix between Starship Troopers and Groundhog Day

>>127778307
xaxaxaxa i thought you were referring to planetside 2 not edge of tomorrow

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>>127777636
>>127777997

It's a good movie!

>>127780701
fucking land sharks

>>127780941
she's hot, but the movie is pretty shit.

>>127779170
Starship troopers has less bugs than planetside

>>127782483
underrated post

>>127767217
>You have dipshit outfits that think a successful point hold against overpopped but uncoordinated random lone wolfs

Sounds like you were one of the "lone wolfs" that got shit on. I love your tears.

Shitter.

>>127785906
lol

>>127750110
For it to be effective, it needs to get close. If it gets close, you done fucked up son.

I am a Vanu main (by a slim margin over TR), that's just what faction I started to learn the game on and from experience I can say Vanu is far less powerful than TR. Having no bullet drop is useful on one weapon and that is the VS' battle rifle, which in my opinion is complete crap anyway.

Magrider - weakest of all tanks, it would take 2-3 mags to destroy a certed prowler with a vulcan and AP shells
Scythe - Don't do enough air combat to know
Weapons - Just bleh, nothing special about them. They aren't "bad" per se but they are in no way OP, I think Vanu is easier for newer players because they don't really lean towards any side in regards to weapon damage/accuracy. Making them a little bit more general use, that's my opinion though.

As for the other factions TR has the best assault rifles, period. They also have very impressive carbines (although they suffer at range) And the Carv is dakka love, dakka life.

NC I have trouble with, but there are many high skill players who swear by NC, that isn't conclusive evidence but I do have the opinion that NC is a higher skill faction than the other. In the hands of a competent user (unlike myself) the Gauss Saw is unstoppable. The vanguard is also the most powerful tank, hands down. Keep your strafing, I want the damage stopping sheild.


Anyway, long story short Vanu is very middle of the road and in NO WAY OP.

>>127786975
Is this a pasta? This looks familiar but I can't remember.

>>127785906
No, I was in the squad.

>>127787239
I like to copy-paste comments from steam forum into here and watch the reaction, that's what that is.

Retarded vanu main arguing that TR have good guns and actually VS guns are shit, especially the magrider.

>>127786975
>Anyway, long story short Vanu is very middle of the road and in NO WAY OP.

This is actually true, apart from Orion, VS guns aren't really better than TR ones.

>>127787836
I agree, it's about time people started to realise just how bad most VS weapons and vehicles are.

The magrider is the worst tank in ALL measures, same for the scythe. The Apheleon SUCKS HARD, the LSW SUCKS, Our sidearms SUCK.

There's nothing good about our gear.

>>127788312
Would you say they are...
U N D E R P O W E R E D?

>>127788312
lol

http://www.twitch tv/seph00
get in here baddies

>>127788312
My meme detector says that you are a falseflagging shiTR.

>>127790523
make me you millennial twitch faggot

>>127790523
>http://www.twitch tv/seph00
thats a wierd looking planetside.

joke aside man i havent played this in ages.

>>127764291
this

There's potential for fun, but people are too scared and/or incompetent to get in the thing.

Think the gunners who ditch a harasser once it starts burning as opposed to firing until death (surprisingly often this is the difference between killing the opponent and dying), despite every competent driver having fire-sup for the getaway. That's what its like with valks, but EVERYONE does it. It doesn't matter how good a pilot you are. you'll have a very hard time retaining crew, let alone crew who are willing to go down with the ship. It's a flying harasser, but people seem to ditch it the second things go south like it's a MBT.

You really do need a select few people to coordinate with over mic who understand everything that is going on.

It doesn't help though that most of the valks weapons are the absolute peak of mediocrity at best. If you're TR you can at least run strikers on one side, engineers on the other. Dual lashers/lancers on one side might be pretty decent too.

>>127793082
what do you propose the NC run?

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reviving the thread with CLAB webms™

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Both Emerald and Miller are shitting themselves again. MLGkits are broken again ;_;

>>127759986
Claymores can be placed literally anywhere there is foot traffic

I don't even understand why there are so few dumped around.

They don't even glow. You can literally just drop them wherever the fuck you feel like and someone walking over one is guaranteed to step into its trigger zone and go off.

>>127767901
You're in denial m8

Factual evidence shows the prowler is outperforming the magrider and vanguard by a large margin.

It's not a case of a 3-5% difference like you think it is.

>>127764471
The legal rights to be only one to reproduce and/or use complaints about underpowered weaponry

>>127797154
>Factual evidence shows the prowler is outperforming the magrider

At kills, nobody is saying the prowler isnt one of the best farming vehicles.

The magrider is better at actually playing the objective because its much less predictable than the prowler and can much more easily swoop in and take out sunderers and always keep its front pointed at things.

The prowlers basically for backing up against a wall and pretending to be a siege tank. Its good at that, but that doesnt take bases.

This is proven by the fact that VS win more often on the three continents that arent basically purpose-built for long range artillery duels like indar is, where TR wins more often.

Therefore the only people who think the prowler is best are the people who think the purpose of the game is stat padding and cert farming, and not capturing bases and locking continents.

>>127796708
Most are only placed indoors, because if you put it outside or in the open, it's guaranteed to be spotted/sidestepped. It's not particularly effective outdoors.

A shitter might miss a betty out in the open, but even the most shitter of shitters won't miss a claymore standing there.

Claymores are definitely the most combat useful mine though (ie, taking/holding territory, as opposed to wanking around as an infil). I've never though "damn, I wish I had a betty right now" after I've taken a building. Claymores though, they're so easy to use offensively without risking harm to friendlies covering the same door the claymore is. I'd never chuck a betty down in a heavily contested point, but claymores are pretty safe to do so with.

>>127759986
claymores are fucking annoying and cheesy.

>everyone used to bitch about claymores being too easy to see
>TR got smart enough to only start placing claymores in the places they would be effective
>nobody bothers placing claymores anywhere else now
>people only encounter well placed claymores, since thereis no point even trying to use them anywhere else
>suddenly everyone says they are overpowered

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a reminder that I love planetside 2 and will continue loving planetside 2

also that I finally maxed my first character i ever made

>>127799609
I dont know about you but I see some fucking retards just place them where ever the fuck like they think they can do with VS and NC mines.

>>127799973
maybe on some other servers then.

On connery i only ever see well placed claymores, and i dont see the other mines at all, i just hear them explode behind me :^)

I do run maxed flak armor on everything though.

Is the 5th AT mine from utility pouch worth the 1000 certs?

I've been sitting at 4 for the longest time, and it seems pretty decent with two vehicle kills per resupply. Is there a noticeable difference with 5?

>>127799368
>because if you put it outside or in the open, it's guaranteed to be spotted/sidestepped. It's not particularly effective outdoors.
>A shitter might miss a betty out in the open, but even the most shitter of shitters won't miss a claymore standing there.

That definitely ain't true

you need to start actually just dropping the damn things around willy nilly

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i don't know why i did this

>>127800371
No, not really

You need 2 mines to kill most of everything, so that extra 5th mine is just an odd-man out. I usually pair it with an AP mine instead of using it for AV work

>>127801080
ursa was the single most painful aurax for me (bar literal meme guns)

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wew

>>127790883
I always wanted to join zaps 1shot and brick are old friends and rest of zaps know me as a watty tr, what's the chance of a 1.7 kd hitter joining?

>>127804020
Shitter*

>>127804020
ZAPS is garbage.

>>127799798
Why did you kill you teammates?

>>127804860
There was a sneaky VS on a cliff behind the spawn room. As I was shooting, he flew up into my line of fire and I killed him and the VS at the same time

Holy shit, memetracker's overlay ability has increased my fun on flashes tenfold now that I have a red dot on my screen in 3rd person. I can actually fucking aim without being restricted to having 5degrees of vision. It's like taking a breath of fresh air after being locked in a room full of feminists for an hour.

I can see AND aim at the same time!

>>127804472
No

>>127805225
>red dot on my screen
What overlay? I wish Recursion Tracker has this feature..

Can u post a guide to install the memetracker overlay?

Spoonfeed pls

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>>127805752
>>127805667
Can't remember where I downloaded the actual dot component from but i'll go looking for it now and get back to you.

>>127805752
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/d72j26a0oes34wb/AADRpfIvjtAEhsTeVNLI4Q-2a?dl=0
it's all in the readme file

>>127806325
Thanks fellow tr °¥°

>>127806581
Ah, yep, that's where I got them from. Thanks anon!

>>127806581
>>127806325
Anybody know how I'd go about making one of these myself?

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>flash kobalt
the most underrated weapon in the game desu
its great against babbys with flash wraith module... since you can always spam shots and eventually track em back again really quick

>>127807564
Kobalts in general are pretty fucking great, I think that people assume they're shit because it's the default weapon on the worst vehicle.

>>127807564
do you shoot in 1st or in 3rd person view?

>>127807564

How should I upgrade me flash to do this?
Utility and Defense Slot.

I'm not that guy you're asking but when I'm rolling in my flash I use radar and armor.

Radar should be obvious, armor is a more contentious choice however so I can understand if people don't do the same.

>>127808209
>it's the default weapon on the worst vehicle
what

>>127808209
Kobads arnt default on N e thing

>>127808767
>>127808825
It used to be

I have a few thousand certs to spare, and I want to start certing into my TR max.

Which guns should I get?

Are the onslaughts significantly more close range DPS than, say, mutilators? That 125 damage bullet is pretty fucking offputting, which also makes the mercies look like shit despite the accuracy and lack of damage dropoff.

Could I just buy a 2nd heavy cycler and be fine, or is it better to specialize?

Wish this shit was as straightforward as the max guns for the other factions.

>>127809947
pounders.

>>127808512
Stealth/rival.Avoid running into straight lines.
>>127808349
3rd person.
>>127808209
I think someone said that kobalts have the same DPS as a gauss SAW. Which is awesome.
>>127808736
>armor
>with your head exposed
jej

>>127810181
>Anything
>With your head exposed
kek

Does stealth stop people shooting you in the head?
Does mine guard?

No, there's only one which can actually help you avoid being shot in the head and that's the most cancerous ability of all, so I ignore it.

Your driving skills are what you must rely on to avoid being shot in the head.

>>127810427
>Does stealth stop people shooting you in the head?

It does.
>someone spots me and starts shooting at me
>fall back
>wait until dorito gets out of my head
>advance
>get near him because my vehicle is not automatically spotted
>shoot him while he is completely defenseless
As you can see on my previous post...it works really well.
Also
>armor
>doesn't do jack shit against infantry shots and everything else
jej

>>127810952
No, being spotted isn't a requirement to being shot in the head. Anyone alert will still be aware of your presence, especially after the first death at your hands.

I'm not saying your method doesn't work for you and I did say armor was a contentious choice. It works for me, that's all.

>>127739372

tfw i took that screenshot

PS2 beta was really shit

>>127811303
>No, being spotted isn't a requirement to being shot in the head.

In a clusterfuck where you are dealing with 90+ mindless players trained to shoot at whoever has a different dorito than theirs... it is.
And I believe you may be a victim of a "placebo", anon. That, or you are a flash wraith shitter.

>>127811504
I'm certainly not a wraith shitter anon.

like I already said, I'm just telling you what works for me and I am finding that armor works.

We obviously have different playstyles is all, there's nothing wrong with that.

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>>127809947

>>127811662
> I'm just telling you what works for me and I am finding that armor works.
And I'm telling you that armor is completely useless, since it doesn't give you any sort of advantage whatsoever, since folks will aim at your head;not to your flash. And the only viable option to avoid the chances of getting shot is stealth.

>>127811994
Fair enough anon, we'll just agree to disagree. Note however that I'm not saying stealth is useless, stealth is great, I just don't use it myself.

>>127811940

>Suggesting mattocs ever
>literally worse than falcons in almost every way

shit chart desu

>>127812419
>He doesn't know about mattocks

heh

>>127808901
never was

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>>127811460
it was shit but it was OUR shit

i want to go back

>>127812576
>He doesn't know about falcons
heh

>>127813056
>Relying on splash

What's wrong, can't aim?

>>127812576

I made the terrible mistake of buying mattocs and slugs because they looked cool

They are inferior to falcons in every way, except projectile speed but that hardly makes up for the far worse accuracy, the far worse damage, and the inability to damage vehicles

in short

>mattocks

heh

>>127813145

>Relying on splash
>commenting on being able to aim

If I hadn't fried my harddrive I'd be schooling you with some fine ass webms

>>127813145
>Relying on shotguns

What's wrong, can't aim?

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;)

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Weekly reminder that this is what autism killing KD looks like, don't let it happen to you.

>>127813585
This fucking higbyy hacker in ymir bio

>>127799609
Thought the kill distance and trigger distance was increased

GUYS
THE THING SOUTHWEST OF THE RINK IS THE TOP OF AN AMP STATION
FUUUUUUUUUUCK

>>127813145
>falcons
>splash
You main TR, don't you?

guys
on das anfall stats
what is IVI score, and what is tank score?

>>127814816
One day I'd like to lead an archeological expedition across auraxis for ps2g

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>>127814302
fun guy

>>127815271
IVI score is accuracy multiplied by headshot ratio
don't know about tank score

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2s-thr8ncts
>maggie dumpstering FCRW
this pleases me

>>127801080
Would the Ursa be a better gun with 184 damage per bullet and maybe a RoF decrease to 600 or 579?

>>127816620
ahahahahahaha

>>127816620
lol

>>127818083
>>127818389
what would make the Ursa good then?

>>127818916
Obviously 200dmg at 750rpm with the Orion's handling and a heat mechanism.

>>127818916
Personal skill

>>127819089
you beat me to it faget

>>127818916
The Ursa is good. It's a slightly worse TMG-50.
VS is just used to having easy-mode guns, that when they have to use normal guns they feel like shit.

>>127816059
>tfw maggie will never dumpster a hot, steaming killstreak on your eager, willing point hold

>>127797154
So then answer my question, what would you do to balance it? Because I guarantee, whatever it is, it will give the Prowler the Banshee treatment.

ded

>>127823194
no u

>>127821280
>the Banshee treatment
That was fully deserved.

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>goofing around in VR
>enough of this, go to instant action
>Hossin

>>127824328
>instant action

You're insane

>>127824000
Whether or not you're butthurt, the fact remains that it was nerfed to a point where the other two equivalents are now outperforming it by 30-50%.

>>127752335
>this resolution
why
i like small screens(1400x900), and its much easier to run for the pc, and its also better to use internet imo

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SHHHHH....

super secret fedora euphoria vocaroo
don't tell nobody http://vocaroo.com/i/s1KsKI54OkFS

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This thing can't kill anything and they still want to nerf it.

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>>127825568
They just wanna make it harder to use. In my eyes that means that its gonna be more fun to use. I dont use it because it bores the fuck out of me.

>>127819081
>>127819089
>>127819664
pls shitTRs, if TR had an Ursa instead of the Bull it would have been cried into a slightly better SAW by now

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1/12 sundy is the only thing it can beat 1v1 up close

>>127824435
>it was nerfed to a point where the other two equivalents are now outperforming it by 30-50%
>stupidly OP weapon gets nerfed
>cheeselords switch to something else
>a significant amount of banshee users are new guys
>banshee scores lower
Whoop de doo.
Also, brush it off as anecdotal evidence, but I have 14 KDR and 120 KPH on the Banshee, ~80% of which were after the nerf.

>>127825568
>secondary can't solo a tank at 400 m
lol

>>127824435
>>127826029

I would KILL to have a weapon as good as current banshee as my valkyrie anti-infantry

>>127826029
>a significant amount of banshee users are new guys
Yeah, that isn't how it works.

>>127824435
>the fact remains that it was nerfed to a point where the other two equivalents are now outperforming it by 30-50%
>but somehow the Prowler outperforming the other two MBTs by 30% is balanced
S P A C E
F E M I N I S T S

>>127826565
It's much easier to aim a Valk nosegun.

>>127826658
>280% DPS
>200% more shots
>only performs 30% better
I'd say it's all work out :^)

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>>127826000
>you weren't even soloing it

>>127826730
No it isn't. It's nearly impossible to aim while the Valk is flying.

>>127826029
yet if you see any half decent pilot pick up the banshee the nerfs have hardly effected them
the nerfs only directly harmed the shitters who were dependent on the weapon's overperformance, which is to say the majority

>>127826814
To be fair, it's actually somewhat underpowered.

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>>127826841
>NCR

>>127827106
Everyone says that needler and rotary are better for AI.

>>127827106
>Airhammer is untouched, allows shitters and good players to use it effectively
>LPPA is untouched, allows shitters and good players to use it effectively
>Banshee is nerfhammered, allows only good players to use it effectively, and still underperforms in that metric
>this is balanced

>>127827220
It's the only PS2 related laughing sluts image I have.
Requesting TR/VS ones.

>>127827524
I'll goof around with the hues in Photoshop later and see if I can wrangle up something usable.

I've only ever seen the NC version myself.

>>127827339
The issue isn't it being worse for garbage players its being used less often by the old garbage players compared to post-nerf AH and LPPA

>>127827667
There is only an NC version, Razyda only made the one.

>>127827339
Actually AH got nerfed 3 times since launch. It's still cancer but just saying.

Anyone who wants banshee buffs should uninstall the game and then commit suicide.

>>127827336
Then everyone is a cretin.

>>127827339
>Airhammer is untouched, allows shitters and good players to use it effectively
Given the AH's effective range, shitters are bound to die really quickly, or be completely harmless if they stay at range.
>LPPA is untouched, allows shitters and good players to use it effectively
For your average shitter, at any fight bigger than a 12v12, the LPPA is actually an assist machine.
>Banshee is nerfhammered, allows only good players to use it effectively, and still underperforms in that metric
lol

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>>127827667
Thanks lad!

>>127827667
Because raz never finished the TR one.

>>127827701
Do you have any proof?

>>127827772
I don't want Banshee to be buffed, necessarily, I just want all the noseguns on the same level.

>>127827830
>Given the AH's effective range, shitters are bound to die really quickly, or be completely harmless if they stay at range.
Because adjusting range or manipulating distance is something ESFs have trouble doing?

>For your average shitter, at any fight bigger than a 12v12, the LPPA is actually an assist machine.
It's really not. It doesn't take much to kill someone with LPPA, even with pure splash.

>lol
Unlike others, I actually do have proof. I wouldn't take this stance if I was wrong.
http://ps2oraclestats.com/?stat=q4kills&weapon1=4906&weapon2=4305&weapon3=4605

>>127828132
>just want all the noseguns on the same level.

Just like MBTs right? ;)

>>127828609
Show me where the Prowler touched you

>>127828132
lol

>>127828609
S P A C E
F E M I N I S T S

To end your discussion guys : you are all shitters and faggots.
ESF being a one plane army ruined this fucking game, and it is the main reason why we are ded gaem right now.

AI nose guns shouldn't be in this game and anyone who thinks otherwise is a nigger.
Now fuck off back to reddit.

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>>127828942
>>127828609
>calling other people feminists when you're the ones who don't bring up facts and instead talk only about your personal anecdotes and insult people

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>>127828132
>Do you have any proof?

>>127828875
Show me where AH/PPA touched you.

>>127829153
Nice job cutting out the metric.

>>127829147
>only facts are the ones that TR is UP
>other facts are irrelevant or Terrans are just better players xddd

Fuck off back to reddit facta.

>>127829428
Feel free to post facts, shitter.

>>127829545
Reddit. Go back there.

>>127766793
just better players

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>>127829927
>BWAAAAAAAAAH PROWLER BANSHEE OP FUCK YOU TR FUCK YOU FUCK YOU DONT MAKE ME POST PROOF FOR MY CLAIMS FEMINIST FUCK YOU FUCK YOU
lol

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>>127807564
>5 kills in 10 seconds
filename related

>anon brings up how the prowler outscores magrider and vanguard
>shiTR manages to turn that into "banshee up polls pls buff"
y'all faggots got played

>>127830089
>ah hahaha egdghshx AH/Orion/ppa/magrider/vanguard and everything is op fuck you NC and VS you don't make me post proofs

Back. To. Reddit. Facta. Right fucking now.

>>127830240
wait until you try the renegade
scatmax moving at 60+ km/h
way less EHP, but that don't matter when they can't hit you

>>127830452
>don't make me post proofs
I did, though.

>Back. To. Reddit.
The anal asspain devastation is palpable. Fun fact, I haven't been to reddit in over four months, mostly because reddit is now mostly pro-TR :^)
My job was done, family.

>>127830245
Facta is a /pol/fag and as we all know /pol/fags and feminazis are an opposite sides of the same coin.
You can't have a normal discussion with this set people.

>>127829331
It's Uniques, all other factors reflect the number of users

>>127830703
>same number of users as the airhammer
>worse performance in every metric

>>127830612
>My job was done, family.

I'm happy that you finally got a job even though it was just shitposting on 4chan ;)

>>127830819
nice memily

>>127830962
>not niceme.me
shitter

>>127831171
IT'S A PLAY ON WORDS OF SIMILE YOU DUMBASS

>>127831171
>reusing memes
>not engaging in experimental memitude in a constant push for fresh memes

>>127831259
If you had a clue what you're talking about, you'd know that "simile" doesn't rhyme with "Emily".

>>127831314
>squandering your rares like that
come on kouhai

what gun to use on lightning?

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>>127831909
>Emily

youtu.be/3dErjFPTarc

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>>127830791
Funny thing is the AH performs significantly better than the LPPA despite roughly 30% fewer users

>>127832108
AP for AV
Viper for AI
HE is worse Viper
HEAT is garbage
Skyguard is bad

>>127832248
its ok when NC do it

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>>127831314
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1QSlHKHJNge
LITERALLY THIS
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1QSlHKHJNge

>>127832521
epic op :)

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>>127832521
nice

>>127832521
E X P E R I M E N T A L

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GUYS GUYS
PS2 CONFIRMED FOR NOT FUCKING DEAD

GONE WITH THE BLASTWAVE UPDATED