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But can any servant defeat EMIYA?
And I'm not talking about Shirou Emiya. No, I'm not talking about Servant Archer EMIYA. Hell, I'm not talking about Counter Guardian EMIYA either.
I'm talking about Counter Guardian EMIYA with infinite Prana (which is capable of Unlimited Blade Works with Excalibur, Avalon and EA), his two original Kansho and Bakuya (which grant him magic resistance, STR, AGI, MGI and Monster slayer buffs) and infinite swords from his back (capable of using Caladbolg, Hrunting, Rho Aias, Gae bolg, Caliburn, Nine lives and even the whole Gate of Babyloni(capable of using ea and Enuma Elish) and a Arodnight because he is a master in swords, a perfect Excalibur (that can use Avalon), control of both Saber and Rin , with Dark Sakura Matou shadow and face implanted on his chest, his four Clones from all routes guarding him and Berserker with Nine Lives floating behind him AFTER he absorbed 7 servants from the First Holy grail, entered Archetype Earth Mode, call the Types from the stars on everybody and used Unlimited Blade works: infinite creation of swords so he can use their weapons while they are under even more swords.
Reminder that even nips know what is the reason why a Servant gets EAM.
Just started the game. After all these fucking lancers I finally got something else.
1 memeroll left after losing 80 quartz
>Fuck off elevens aka target market for FGO
Remember kids, patience is only slightly rewarded
>spent 200 crystals and 5 tickets
>decide to do a 40 roll because still no golden servant
>Someone posts source materials of a character he doesn't like
>That someone needs to be banned now for pointing out a character's strength
Janitor isn't a delusional whiny baby like you are, that's why "jetfag" doesn't get banned.
If Alter's the absolute pinnacle of what 4 stars can offer why would a version of her that is literally an upgrade on every point only merit a rating of "decent"? Think for a second before you post, dipshit.
Jetfag is the literal definition of delusional whiny baby. He has yet to post anything from the materials without drawing a demonstrably incorrect, hilariously biased conclusion from it.
But he isn't, you are. He posts canon material arguments and you post memes as a response. Who do you think should get banned? Definitely not the one actually posting something worth rather than muh unwanted.
>I don't like this character so anything that points to him being top tier is wrong and badly interpreted!
Who is the whiny baby again? What makes your interpretation better than his? Your bias? You wanting to find excuses for every single quote that you don't like.
still on the fence on the paid gacha. How often are two 5* draws from that thing?
You're insane. You are literally describing what the jetfag does in reverse. The materials he "quotes" are always taken out of context, and any counterpoints made in the SAME materials that disprove him, he claims are misinterpretations to besmirch UNRIVALED
I need help with building a team, /fgog/. inb4whale, but 420 gems with no currybro gave me a Jack and Waver instead. Refunded anyway.
The obvious for me was to go with Jack/Okita/Sluts or EVIL CAT(both with NP2), with Twice/Twice/Knight's Pride but shitting out crits gets stale.
Been thinking of an Arts team but I need a Tamano/Arjuna support. What CE's would do great though?
Got triple Kaleidos but nothing really worthy putting them on except Arturia/Vlad/Salter.
I don't see him replying with muh bait images when btfo though.
>posting material statements means being delusional
It's the other way around, you bitching about every single canon fact is being delusional.
How can you send it right back? Go ahead, do it if you are so good.
Why don't you post the context or counterpoints then? Because they don't exist. I'm getting tired of faggots like you that think they know shit when they don't. I can fucking bet my account that you were one of the people memeing about Zero being a spin-off.
>poorfags hate Gil because they cat have him
They arent. The only quote with a counterargument is the Diarmuid entry. No one has been able to say anything about the Nasu comment or Arondight entry other than delusional answers or bait images/smugarchers.
This was a Super Success meme roll.
The braid, sharp eyes and mouth/teeth, swirling red shit in the back and overuse of tattoos is really over the top.
White and red design with a bit of black isn't that bad. But this is just too much.
Except, you know, he fucked over a whole kingdom because he couldn't keep it in his pants and killed his own master in a Grail War, so he is shit from an objective point of view
He is probably a good guy that acts edgy in order to prepare the MC for the real battle that will begin after the first year.
He probably saw humanity destruction already and all this year is part of his to stop it.
Why do people like to find excuses for every material entry here? This is not a Lancelot only problem, I have seen this happen to Numeral of the Saint, Kosmos, GoB, Caliburn, God Hand and even Avalon. What is the point of wanting to deny everything you don't like even if it's obvious when you are wrong?
>Waste 8 tickets
>Get seven 3*CE and the Kariya CE.
I think this game is trying to tell me something
I'm not saying he's shit, I'm saying jetfag is completely over wanking him and won't accept he could ever lose.
For example, he takes a quote from Nasu that Berserker is very good at killing other Servants to mean he literally kills every other Servant in the 4th war with ease. This DESPITE in the same breath saying Diarmuid can beat him because Nasu was clear on the matter and he can't argue it.
Yet he doesn't mind ignoring Nasu's opinion in other instances, like where Nasu stated the only reason Berserker was able to survive GoB spam was because of Mad Enhancement, yet he consistently refers to ME as a nerf and that sane Lancelot would have blown Gil out even harder.
Then there is penchant for very selectively choosing what quotes from characters are facts and which are opinion. He believes when Tokiomi states Gilgamesh was at a disadvantage against Lancelot it is to be taken as fact, but when he got involved in the Cu vs. Achilles shitposting he was ADAMANT on Shirou's statement that Cu could throw Gae Bolg to the other side of the planet was just opinion because it was stated by a character and not a perfect narrator.
The guy is a hypocrite and a retard and only newfags who haven't read anything he's posted still defend him.
Watch him call me a Gil and/or Cu fag for this post, then rant about how he's proved that all his detractors are one person.
Sad tbqh i bet you also beg for 4* giveaway
The good reason is because TM isn't a powerlevel franchise. This has been proven countless times and most people citing source materials try and disregard it.
The bad reason is because someone is fucking baiting and people bite.
>Rolled over 400 quartz
>no new 4* or 5* servant at all
I'm dying inside
>roll 250 quartz yesterday
>fucking dupes non stop
>roll 250 quartz today
>dupes again only this time ti's more infuriating since the gold archer card turned into orion
I don't know how whales do it, I honeslty don't know how they don't mind being scammed this much by the gacha
>tfw I'll never roll pirate sluts and do over a million damage NP to beast and caster servants
just fuck my shit up
Last I checked my team didn't have any 7,5 servants so I guess that means your team is the welfare one
>he takes a quote from Nasu that Berserker is very good at killing other Servants
That's not what the quote says. It says he is too strong and he can easily beat other Servants because of it, where the fuck did you get it meant he is just good at killing Servants?
>like where Nasu stated the only reason Berserker was able to survive GoB spam was because of Mad Enhancement
Wrong again. It says he was doing as good as he was because of ME, putting a good fight, not that he was able to survive because of it.
>yet he consistently refers to ME as a nerf and that sane Lancelot would have blown Gil out even harder
I have barely ever seen this one, I have seen people say Kariya nerfed Lancelot and that he may have a swordbeam as a Saber. Not being able to handle a certain enemy as good doesn't mean you are weaker either, you just aren't as good as battling that enemy anymore.
>he believes when Tokiomi states Gilgamesh was at a disadvantage against Lancelot it is to be taken as fact
It wasn't Tokiomi alone, it was Kirei, Kiritsugu and Julian too, and even the narrator at times.
>but when he got involved in the Cu vs. Achilles shitposting
Wait, so you are indeed thinking everyone who doesn't agree with you is the same person? Fuck it, I'm not going to keep reading this, I'm done with your delusional ass.
>Jetfags whine and holler that no one has ever actually posted examples of how they misinterpret the materials
>They start calling him every boogeyman they can think of
It was so predoctab I don't know whether to laugh or cry
I would trade the account.
It's got just pirate sluts and CEs Prisma Cosmos 5*, Gandr 4*, Kariya 4* and Gem Magecraft 4*
The account is level 2 and all quests are still untouched, story and free quests.
Biggest wall of (You) in the history of /fgog/
>None of that is what I think, let me restate exactly what you said I think to show what I really think
You have no right to call anyone delusional
>Using Prisma as a source for Fate/Zero
Holy shit, kill yourself you dork
And that someone is also a confirmed autist. He legit believes Gilgamesh is a good guy that dindu nuffin.
His interpretation is trash too, completely wrong, adding or removing stuff he doesn't agree with. Thats no longer interpretation, he is completely changing the statements to suit his headcanon.
>tfw can't shitpost hard enough to get someone so buttblasted
thanks for carrying me bros
I'm gonna do it!
I'm going to use all those quartz I've been saving as a F2P to get a 5* servant!
Good luck, anon.
I hope you roll whatever you want.
Well, that went better than expected.
Also got Deermud, couldn't roll him for shit
Well, first roll.
At least I got two 4* CEs, a new servant and I can finally upgrade my Jing Ke's NP, so it's all good.
Going for the second roll.
How does this look for a starter account? No quests were touched so all that free quartz can still be obtained. It has 1 5* CE and 3 4* CEs
I want to trade for any account with just Arturia
Japanese CE Tierlist
Ryumyaku - Ley Lines
Imaginry Magic and Imaginary Witchcraft are the same.
>hodgepodge no syngery team
No wonder why you shitpost with your welfare team.
>mfw waiting for the giveaway anon to post Tamamo
>mfw thought /fgog/ would be inactive and boring
>mfw Jetfag vs Gilfag going at it again
Fuck yeah! All those 4-5* CE in one roll, with two Brocks+A Kaleidoscope.
In b4 I wasted all my luck with this roll
Anyways, onto the third!
He didnt say that. He said he could win the war in a night, not solo all Servants. Diarmuid can also win the war but its not by defeating other Servants. If Lancelot loses to Gil is because of Kariya running out of prana as it was implied twice in the novel.
Too many to to list tbqh. Enjoy your useless no syngery team.
You wont respond because Nasu never said that and neither you have a citation for it such claim.
Saying you wont respond is the easy way out as you cant back up your argument with facts.
Nice meme poorfag.
Couldn't be more happy, got Okita on my paid roll.
No its not, its winning the war, not soloing. Urobuchi said that Nasu sqid Gilgamesh cant beat Arturia even when serious. That alone confirms its not via soloing. No, Avalon has nothing to do with it, it was never mentioned.
Damn, how do you change the google account you pay with?
I'm trying different methods, but it seems like I'm stuck with my old account
Urobutchi said "Serious Gilgamesh doesn't exist" and "Well serious this vs serious that, Nasu said there can't be an answer" he said that because serious Gilgamesh doesn't exist.
Oh hey, two new 4* CE and Diarmud, which I think completes my Servants encountered (Not owned) pokedex.
Also yes, I didn't have a Shinji before this.
Onto the fourth!
I was so happy when i saw the thumbnail thinking that she was Mashu.
>waver and lancelot in a crit team
Nice autism, i also see you stopped posting your shit team since it is all you have not even good ces either. No wonder poorfags shitpost
Unlimited Blade Works was also Gil's natural enemy, but we all know both Shirou and Archer would get wrecked by a serious Gil.
Lancelot's power wouldn't be able to affect Enuma Elish just like how Shirou wasn't able to trace it.
Headcanon, the question was who wins between serious Gil and Arturia. He said serious Gil doesnt exist, but if it actually happened, it was a tie, Nasu said so.
Diarmuid is also stated to be capable of injuring him and escaping.
Lancelot is said to counter him and even Kirei states it was a relief to have Lancelot on his said as nothing else was a threat anymore.
So now the author's own words are headcanon
I'm telling you that you're cherry-picking the statement to mean exactly what you want, Urobutcfi said both of those things I just said there.
Shirou Saber isnt Kiritsugu Saber or Rin Saber. If you think its incomprehensible because you simply dont like it, too bad. It still exists regardless of what you want to believe.
I had that same thought too, then i realized it was boats
I just so funny how we shit on your Gil then you start talking about how you have an NP2 Okita, Waver and Lancelot.
You're just proving our point even harder.
Just feed him to mashu and save your team the trouble.
>implying I don't agree with him wholeheartedly
>implying he isn't right
The delusions of you 7,5 shitters never fail to amuse
That's not what happened, he was more than ready to fight her when they met during the final battle, until Shirou told her to go away.
When they met at Ilya's castle though, his target wasn't Saber, his target was the only one he considered a potential threat to him there, which is why he decided to get rid of the faker while he was weakened.
Even Rin comments afterwards, "You know its pretty fucking strange he only targeted Archer, not Saber, Not me, not anyone else. Its almost like he was wary of that guy". This is supposed to clue you in on something here, which apparently you did not understand at all since you going "Uhhh wee, look how scared of Saber he was".
It was confirmed in the data books and the game that the only reason he ran off really was because his suit was getting dirty, since it was his way of saying that their lives meant less to him than this suit. It was him being arrogant basically, he never felt much regarding Rin Saber.
>Perhaps because he has been living in human society for the past ten years, he seems to be hip on the latest fashions. He owns various casual clothes, but his favorite is the biker outfit he wore in the Rin route.
>Well, he liked it enough to overlook Shirou's group and leave instead of letting it get dirty, at any rate. I can't believe the protagonist's life was worth less to Gil than his coat…!
He was going to fight her when she tried to fight him at Ryuudou Temple, and called Shirou a retard for telling her off. It help if you didn't fanon quite to this level that you missed what actually happened. He was wary of Archer, but Saber was something he was going to meet head on without question.
Not even him,
given up on continuing with someone who is ust a shitposter with nothing of substance to add. Its already obvious only poorfags who dont have gil shitpost about by him
I'm sorry for asking but I haven't got any reply on the mail so I was wondering if you could reply here if you sent a message? If that email provider is a problem then i could make another one.
Why is it such a taboo for me to get a single 5* servant? Spending 37€ to guarantee one is outrageous.
The affected stats are the only relevant ones in terms of battle. If Saber being faster, stronger, and having more energy somehow matters, then Gil being faster, tankier, and having more magical energy would matter.
He jumped back immediately after Rin Saber appeared, Gilfag. Just fuck off already.
He couldnt afford to get close like he did against Shirou Saber because he knew he was about to get wrecked.
Holy Fuck I just tried out the meme Chinese trick and it worked. For me. Was hoping for Scathach behind that gold lancer summon as I squealed but its still a 5 star.
>feed servant or CE in till great or super success
>roll (i rolled fp) until a 3 star (i got red black keys)
>roll single (ticket)
An amazing tactic, if you can't refute something, then pretend to that the other person said something entirely different, so that you can go "Can you believe this". A nice strawman attempt it seems, but you can look at the post you were replying to as well. Since neither "Well GIlgamesh solos" or "Well Avalon" were part of it.
What was said was entirely relevant to the French interview, where Urobutchi said serious Gilgamesh doesn't really exist, and neither would win. We don't really know what exactly he means out of context because of the way he answered, seems he's been getting tips from Nasu how to answer like an asshole and just say vague shit that doesn't mean anything.
>1 decent skill
>NP hits like a wet noodle
>archer modifier on everything he does
He never was, he was only overhyped by you shitters based on his animations and the fact that he can generate some stars
I already drew him. Hes right here. His stats kinda sucks tho.
No it wouldn't, because Gil doesnt know how to fight up close. It would matter far less than it does to someone like Arturia.
Having more energy means better prana burst, idiot.
>950 quartz spent
>Alternated between 10s and single rolls
>300 mana prisms worth of 3 star Servants
>25 Laws of the jungle
>40 (FORTY) Gudako and Gudako CES
>One Imaginary Around
>4 Extra Rins
>Zero five star Servants
I want to cry. I've been saving for Karna since the day the game released. I thought I'd at least get one 5*, even if I couldn't roll him. I just wanted Karna
I just wanted Karna
I'm thinking it'll end up being the earliest mention of Super Excalibur, in that a clash between the two would kill them both or something. Or just something really lost in translation.
Read his comment, he said Gil solos. He was corrected, Gil can win the war, not solo.
Again with the doesnt mean anything meme. He cant beat Saber, why is that so hard to accept?
Fate Gil can fight Saber just fine, letting her get close and then spamming her away. Now, if Saber is ranked up in melee stats and Gil is ranked up in melee stats besides strength, what changes? If Saber has more energy to attack, Gil has more energy to spam. There is nothing that changes the dynamic by being boosted when Gil is comparably boosted himself in Zero.
Because it makes zero sense. There is nothing Saber has that should make her equal to a serious Gilgamesh considering she lacks Avalon. Uro saying it's true doesn't make us just accept it, it makes us scratch our heads and ask "HOW?"
>No it wouldn't, because Gil doesnt know how to fight up close.
He does, he's just not a master at it
You see him fight up close in Fate route, CCC, and Grand Order.
His style of fighting that allows him to survive and even truimp at times over people with far superior skill, in a sense, is to keep changing blades in his hands and keep switching what he's holding as the opponent can never get used to the strange effects of shit that he's holding.
He basically demolished Fate route Saber in an up close battle very briefly by just switching repeatedly until her instinct told her to run back, since she couldn't get a grip on it. People will probably call this wank to mention this happened, but we should all remember it happened.
This tactic just isn't useful against Shirou in particular, for reasons that are obvious. Since he can analyze the blades, and basically do the exact same thing within UBW.
Against other servants though, they always gotta be wary of the strange effects and shit he's pulling out since they can't gauge anything. Against Arthur he pulled out a sword that goes through any armor, one that freezes everything it touches, etc.
You're one of those "muh headcanon" guys, aren't you?
>Despite both Nasu and Shirou reiterating that UBW sucks cock against regular Servants, it must be better because Nasu is a hack!
That just makes Uro's comment even more nonsensical. Following the release of a story written by Nasu, who went in with the expressed purpose of taking a better look at Gilgamesh's character, wherein he goes serious and devotes 100% of his ability to the fight, and Butcher goes "nah he doesn't exist"?
So I'm planning on making a team full of bronze servants. What would be the best choice of servants to make a viable team?
I'm using Andersen for sure
No more than 1 servant per class
Jesus, you king of faggots, why does expressing confusion over a nonsensical statement make me a Gilfag? Wanting to know how a lopsided match up winds up a tie is somehow unreasonable?
UBW not being a better GoB does make sense though. GoB has better shit in it, more variety, and can be used for cheap. UBW is a constant drain where the only advantage is how quickly it can make, ready, and fire weapons while active.
And guess what he didn't do? Use UBW. The scene explicitly states it was just him using six unique methods of killing, none of them indicative of any sort of identity. The literal only thing we know from Nasu's mouth is that he at one point used Overedge during the fight (which makes them A-rank?).
Local terrorist tries to kill Catholic Saint
Y-you guys said CCC is all about fun and sex
Holy shit she's basically every NEET ;_;
UBW is the reality marble. Anything else is just tracing. UBW is an advanced form, the pinnacle, of his tracing. It's just a landscape full of weapons he has traced. So it's the other way around from your statement. The weapons don't come from UBW, UBW is made from the weapons.
Man, Jinako's story really hit close to home.
I hope there was a Jinako route where the game just becomes Nasu's version of EoE.
The true ending was pretty cheesy and I could smell the sakurafagging from miles away
>Y-you guys said CCC is all about fun and sex
Nah nah, shit is bittersweet as hell, especially later on.
However it has an icing outer coating of fun and fanservice up front. Normal endings are one of the more depressing things I've seen out of TM to date.
No, it's some weird situational draw where they seemingly both die without any context as to how it happens.
He beat Saber twice, let her get up both times, and then lost to a perfectly set up counter that relied on getting BTFO both of those times to work.
He lost to Saber because she kept Avalon a secret until the last moment, so Gilgamesh couldn't react to her counterattack after no-selling Ea. She won the battle by fighting intelligently, and it's a trick that only can work once.
If I kill a man who has a cannon using a pistol, does that make a pistol more powerful than a cannon? No, it just means he didn't have time to pull out his cannon and fire at me.
I could swear there's something odd about this
When is Merlin actually going to do something useful and not just yell FOU FOU FOU all the time
Read the VN secondary shit. Every weapon gets stored inside Shirou's mind(UBW) and is brought into reality from that storage(UBW).
The process is slow because Shirou has to access his mind and take the blueprint from there, then he projects it into reality.
That's why when he's UBW all weapons are already there and no tracing is necessary, they're all ready to be used. Which is the reason UBW>GoB.
I finally got best rider and I got two more 4* CE.
Still no gold servants though
Onto the fifth.
While it would, it doesn't mean that UBW is better GoB - for one thing, if one can withstand swordspam for a few minutes, then it's over. Plus, there is more shit in GoB than swords.
I'm not saying he doesn't pull them out of his mind, just that he had to add them there first by analyzing them. He didn't always have UBW, by he was able to trace and analyze. This us about the reality marble itself, not him summoning the weapons.
That nigga is top tier.
His NP is 40% attack, def and star gain party buff (though rng can screw you over) with heal over time thrown into the mix, for 3 turns and he has the means to get to 100% NP charge within those 3 turns again to keep the buff up.
Also crit stars per turn skill along with a party crit damage buff skill.
Who and what do I change before leveling them?
I dont have 2nd kaleido nor IA
>Karna more because he was so bro
Yeah, and he's never gonna stop being one either.
Yeah, but doing it in a magical pink dimension as they walk to the door to the new world while talking about 愛 was pretty damn cheesy
I know that it fits perfectly into the game, but little too much for me
>Fate/side material is a material book released on January 30th, 2004 with the First Edition of Fate/stay night.
Fuck off retard, that was said when only the servants from the 5th war existed. There were no other servants at the time.
Stop bringing it up as a fact.
He's not wrong, it's literally the fact that no other servants existed at the moment the materials came out. He's talking about the 5th war.
>I don't like this official idea that goes against my headcanon, so I'm going to say it's outdated despite no evidence of that actually existing.
The fact that Saber can only be Saber is outdated. That UBW is shit is not outdated. Also note that it says most opponents, not most Servants. Meaning that it's a general characteristic and not something limited to the war.
His mind isn't UBW though, it's just the crystallization of his mental landscape. He's bringing his mind out into the open. UBW is the reality marble which he summons. It's not UBW until he summons it. You're making the exact same point I am except you're using UBW and his mind as the same thing, whereas I'm only talking about it in terms of ur being summoned.
They earned that level of cheese
All of them basically died several times, had to keep restarting the world, and went through all kinds of shit to finally reach some semblance of a good end like this. The amount of people that are still dead to reach this, is what made it happen. Its like Pinocchio, the fake people finally became real in the end, and were born again into the world.
Cheese feels good when its deserved
For example, you have super regen and get shot in the leg, let's say the bullet stays there. Regen will work in all the affected parts except the parts a bullet is in the way.
>letting some potatonigger's spear triumph against his waifu's ace in the hole
>>I don't like this official idea that goes against my headcanon, so I'm going to say it's outdated despite no evidence of that actually existing.
Because that's exactly what it is, a material that came out with F/SN. Against F/SN servants it wouldn't completely work, or do you think Archer wouldn't kill Mata Hari with it?
Well, this just happened.
I'm having trouble to find the good side of this roll, aside of Kiyohime being cute.
Onto the sixth I guess.
UBW beats GoB, therefore UBW>GoB.
I don't care if GoB works better than UBW against other oponents, it doesn't matter. What does matter is that if the two clash, GoB will lose. Therefore UBW is better than GoB.