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We live on, all thanks to Koei desu.
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>2 posts
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>there are more ROTK postings on /fgog/ than eagg
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I think they should abandon the one vs million thing
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>>127627678
That's what Empires is for :^)
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>>127628215
What do you mean?
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>>127627678
I think they should abandon the chinese history thing and make dynasty warriors cool like berserk
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>>127628487
It's the "strategy" side of Dynasty Warriors. But instead of actual strategy it's just basically insert yourself so you can marry your waifu.
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>>127628590
Maybe they should, how was Toukiden in terms of plot and characters?
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>>127628590
Considering they have areblasters and ballistas and floating swords, they've already gone that route. Hell, I'm waiting for the obligatory C-Pop idol character if Bao Shittiang doesn't already fit that criteria.
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Koei desu.
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Vertical split option when? With most modern screens being wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide you should end up with two square halfs which isn't bad. Right now it's just significantly harder to see ahead compared to fullscreen and 2P gets fucked in the butt by the textbox
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>>127628590
nah fuck that, [email protected] when
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>>127635796
Don't give them any ideas.
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>>127628674
>tfw me and my roommate fucked around in Char Customization mode for 4 hours striaght just making characters
>Our first playthrough was basically summed up as Jackie Chan and Bruce Lee fighting their way towards absolute rule of all of China with nothing but a bench and a pair of nunchaku
>Also our best friend we met along the way, a man named Dong Tuna
Our first playthrough of 8 Empires was far more entertaining than it ever should have been.
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>>127638696
You've met Dong Tuna as well.
He's also in 8XL and pic related.
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>>127641281
>>127638696
http://koei.wikia.com/wiki/Dong_Tuna
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Shanyue tribe acting as Wu 's Nanman campaign when?
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>>127641281
Kaguya a cute
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>>127629815
Nice, but there's too many characters in DW for something similar.
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>>127646841
I meant like Toukiden musou or a new original cast with musou gameplay. Maybe with not as many characters as DW and SW they could actually achieve something.
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>>127647297
For the former, Toukiden is already getting a sequel and if anything they should just put some of the characters into WO4.

And I don't think we need another new franchise in the same genre, especially considering how many tries they usually need until they produce something of worth.
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>>127638696
The Bench moveset is dope af
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Episodic.
I would shudder.
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>>127651701
pls no
>campaigns split into 3 parts
>all parts released separately
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Why is Wu always the third wheel?
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>>127653103
Wu, more like Whu
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>>127654327
Wufags BTFO
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>>127638696
>>127648514
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>Buy Samurai warriors 4-II
>Expect to see a story similar of the dynasty warrior games
>hoping to get to learn a bit about the sengoku period of japan
>mfw the story is a fucking disordered mess
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>>127658578
>Jackie has become old in your lifetime
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>>127653103
Most of Wu's problems are from their own kingdom. Especially the later Wu,
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>>127663943
Considering it turns into Game of Thrones and their last Emperor was basically Joffrey yeah definitely internal
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Playing Jin's storyline feels so empty seeing how most of the officers are generics.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_TZpk_9H5k
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>>127653103
Too opportunist to be the heroes of the story and China is in love with the Riverlands due to various reasons..
History-wise Wu and Wei are the main contenders and Shu is just a side thing.
>>127663943
The novel puts the blame for the failing of the northern campaigns and the fall of Shu on Liu Shan's retardation and corrupted officers, so that's not really the reason.
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>>127669695
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>that Xiang Yu's last stand in The Story of Han Dynasty
Holy shit, why the fuck he isn't an Orochi character again?
Also, is the guy who have see Legend of Chu and Han still here?
I would like to know how does it compare to it, I've found the old one a bit lacking once the real conflict started, too many things completely skipped.
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amputated officers when ?
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>>127675173
I still have to get back into it, is it a good final stand?
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>>127677774
Yes, he goes full musou.
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>>127660253
isn't story just a big what if every game
same for DW too
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>>127678962
No, DW went "historical" with 7 and SW went "historical" with 4.
4-II is just random retarded character-based shit though.
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>tfw you tell Ina to smile but she starts crying
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>>127680471
is that what they're planning to do from now on? since there's only one "historical" interpretation i wouldn't expect them to do it every single game though

and on the topic of 4-II, i gave it a go just now and it actually feels pretty fucking good. i know it's a revamp more than an expansion but there's no gay shit like DW's weapon affinity and the characters are nowhere nearly as clunky as they were in 3Z/O3U. the AI seems to be more aggressive too
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>>127660253
>learning about Sengoku Japan from vidya
... o-oro?
I mean if you wanna do that, get Samurai Warriors 4 vanilla or Nobunaga's Ambition: SoI,
Personally I prefer the stories not being too historical because I've gotten a bit tired of the same ol' unification story with the Samurai Warriors characters. Tired of it with Dynasty Warriors too, to be honest. Don't mind reading about it or seeing alternate character interpretations going through the motions but with same ol' SW Nobs and same ol' DW Liu Bei and stuff, it just gets dull.
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Personally the way I would do it if you want a change to the system is have the story play out through your in-game actions.
Like if you're Wu/Shu side. You have to make sure the Chi Bi battle is won to keep the historical path. But if you lose and retreat (but not killed), then the story branches off to a what if path.
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Finally. Now starts the long grind for Twilight and Termina maps.
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>>127686731
Ugh, don't remind me that I've barely touched the Master Quest map let alone finish the first map.

Bad idea on their part.
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>>127689875
Master Quest is at least on par with the original map for difficulty (ignoring the "rules"). TP and Termina were basically designed with the logic that you were level 100 to start with.
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>>127690168
All I know is when a Candle card didn't work on a bush, that was the moment I decided to stop playing. Your level means jack when your defense and A-Rank requirements stay the same.
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These people in Nobunagas ambition think they are a match for my age old tactics, do they not know I have experience dating from AD 180
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>>127690673
That's Zelda 1, not Hyrule Warrior's fault, though. The Master Quest map's item cards are and difficulty is based on the second quest. So yes, there are a few weird squares where playing the flute is what you want to do.
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>>127690673
>>127686731
I hated the Quest maps in this game. I especilly didn't like the long, accumulative tasks you had to do in order to unlock characters you wanted.
>Want to unlock Ruto
>Have to get a raft to go that
>Raft is on the other side of the map
>Have to unlock Zant to get there
>Have to find a magnifying glass to unlock the fight to get Zant
>Have to find a power bracelet to unlock the battle to get a magnifying glass
I hated it.

Don't get me started on what I had to do to unlock her 2nd and 3rd weapons, either.
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>>127690878
I read this as "dating experience from 180 AD"
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>X
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>Wei - Wants to establish an empire based on strength and reason
>Wu - Just wants a land where its people can be safe
>Shu - Wants to restore a corrupt government that fell apart in the first place due to said corruption...because muh benevolence.

Why is Shu the worst kingdom?
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>>127676675
Red Hair Shanks
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>>127713343
>cherry picking
>Liu Bei wanted to create a land for the people and stability and he initally thought that was what the Han was but he later realized this would not work nor be the case and died before being able to do anything constructive other than saying this land is Shu
>Wei did nothing but murder there way through China buthering people and exterminating families in his bid for power and greed wich would later be Weis downfall
>Wu was dropped on it's head the moment it was created filled with 'great' minds that created 'great' plans and then died before anyone could understand the plans leaving Wu in a continous state of I think this will work or lets Weaken the Weakest Kingdom of Shu so that we will be safe from Wei
>Lu Bu who fuckinf cares about anything lets create a land ruled by strength
>Ma Chao I really really want to kill Cao Cao and Han Sui keeps complaining his feet hurt
>Meng Huo yeah but have you seen Xu Rongs abs
>Zhang Lu I really like to get high and believe that a higher being will guide me
>Dong Zhou im so fat I need to rule so I actually have a chair that can contain my ass

Everyone and every kingdom was fucked in the three kingdoms hence why non of them emerged victorious or survived aside from people born later
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>>127717692

>Liu Bei wanted to create a land for the people and stability
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>>127720374
I was cherry picking anon by the game he does historically he was a loose follower of confuscius though how he really was or thought of the people will never be known
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>Reminder that if Pang Tong lived, Shu would have won
>Reminder that if wasn't for Meng Da and Fu Shiren, Guan Yu would of lived and Shu would have won
>Reminder that if Liu Bei didn't loose his head Shu would have won
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>>127683973
SW is always more polished than DW
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>>127721938
Reminder that had Guan Yu stayed with Cao Cao then Liu Bei probably would have give up on standing in Cao Cao's way of total dominion, and thus a lot less lives would have been lost.

Reminder that had Guan Yu been less of a cunt, Fan Castle probably wouldn't have happened and a lot of stupid deaths would have been avoided.

Guan Yu a shit.
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What does being a guitar player have to do with being a pirate?
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>>127722637
It's rebellious.
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>>127722637
If you mean Motochika and his whole Jrock theme in SW...

The real Motochika wasn't a pirate. That was something the SB team made up because one of the Chosokabe's alternate clan crests was a sailing ship. The real Chosokabe was kinda boring and really only of note as they were the big dogs on Shikoku. I mean, they did innovate a new type of farming, but... c'mon, which would you rather make, a clan of pirates or a clan of farmers?

No idea where Motochika's visual kei theme came from in SW though. I guess maybe to match the fact he was a prettyboy in his youth (his father called him "princess" mockingly)? But idk. A lot of Samurai Warriors's artistic licences are less history based than Basara's ironically enough, if more believable.

If you mean Gan Ning, not sure where you got guitar playing from with him.
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>>127723551
Definitely meant Motochika.
He could've been a really badass farmer, but whatever. Their game, their weird decisions.
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>>127724151
>badass farmer
I never knew I wanted this, but now I know I do.
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>>127724461
Lu Su gave us the first step.
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It's good to know that this place is still as dead as usual.
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>Page 10
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>>127696101
I know the deal, bud. Lana's Summoning Gate is the worst weapon, and I'm not bothering with the 3rd tier weapon, either. It doesn't help that Ruto is one of the more 'unique' characters to use. Even Fi and Agitha are more tolerable to use.

>>127693806
Either way, it's too tedious for me to even attempt, and that says something when a musou is tedious for reasons not relating to its usual flaws.
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>>127722504
Reminder that if Ma Teng wasn't such an imbecile Tong Pass would have been a resounding success and his clan would be safe

Reminder that had the Xi Liang coalition not been so brittle and fall apart Ma Chao could have killed Cao Cao and his clan would be safe

Reminder that if Wang Yi had not been a traitor then Ma Chao could have taken Xi Liang back and the second part of his clan would be safe

Had Zhang Lu not been such a traitor and coward then the last part of the Ma clan would be safe

Ma Chao the general and warlord constantly betrayed and let down by the people around him
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>>127736806
Short version: The Three Kingdoms are some of the worst places to live.
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>Page 10
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>>127743132
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>>127745136
I rest my case.
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>Page 10
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Would be great if the game details more on the other factions that the main three had to deal with during this time. More battles with Shanyue, the Ma clan, Zhang Li, the rebellions Wu faced with Vietnam etc
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Pei Yuanshao battling Yuan Shao over name rights.
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>Page 10
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>Nobunaga's Ambition SoI
Intense and cool gameplay up until you become big, then either you just hit the "I win button" or send your dudes to conquer other dudes and sit waiting for it.

I miss Iron Trinagle's kessen system. It allowed you to end the game with a bang.
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so what is this general about? games where you kill chinks? or just any dynasty warriors-style game or something? The genocide in the title keeps grabbing my attention whenever I go to /vg/

pic probably not related
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>>127767085
>so what is this general about? games where you kill chinks? or just any dynasty warriors-style game or something?
Both of these and sometimes other games made by Koei. Toukiden, for example, doesn't have the players kill chinks and techniquely isn't a Musou, but is also welcomed here.
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>>127767085
It's largely a general Koei thread with discussion of Musou-esque games as well. There was never much room to come up with a thread title that was more descriptive, so we just accepted the one that was the catchiest.
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>10
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>There are actually people out there that like Yukimura more then his clearly superior brother.
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>>127772592
Nobuyuki is a tokugawa shitter, fuck him.
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>>127772592
Basara Yukimura is better anyways
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>>127773409
They're both flaming idiots
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Still trying to figure out what the deal is with Zhang Bao's weapon and move set.
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not sure if the anon who wanted this is still here
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>>127774412
>Bile Shittiang
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>>127743132
what is this meme? she has a shit weapon, looks like shit, acts like shit, is basically a shit version of her sister who is superior in EVERY way objectively and subjectively speaking
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>>127721938
>guan yu doesn't talk in that autistic way he does in the show
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>>127776340
da qiao has an ugly long face and dead skin tone though
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>>127776340
>Xiaoqiao
>meme
Baofag plz.
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>>127776217
i didn't play as her, whoever made the image did

besides i think it was either guan yinping or bao as the playable choices
>>127776624
what you mean like a complete cockbag to everyone that isn't liu bei/zhang fei
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>>127776340
She has her awesome twin fans back.
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>Page 10
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Koei desu?
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>>127783676
Douzou.
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>>127783875
Wakatteru.
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>>127786697
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>>127777001

>what you mean like a complete cockbag to everyone that isn't liu bei/zhang fei

don't be mean guan yu was autistic
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I am He Man
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>>127787380
Man if I had a dollar for each time someone made a joke with He Man or Dong Tuna, I'd buy us our own website.
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>>127723551
Where do you get all this information from?
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So, after Yi Ling when Wu then had to prepare for an invasion from Wei forces, Liu Bei apparantly wrote to Lu Xun and ask what his chances would be like if he invaded Wu again.

Um, que?
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tekisho uchitotta
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>>127786778
Matabei pls, go back to riding dinosaurs.
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>>127796048
Diegosaurus in SB when?
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I just beat Wei's campaign. Cao Cao was actually based, and I didn't find myself hating him one bit. Best officer dying got me, though.

Wu, or Shu next?
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>>127797526
Wu, Shu then go back and beat Wei's alt ending for the true ending experience

if you're playing dynasty warriors 8 that is
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>>127797526
Wu, they're sorted chronologically from which ends the last.
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>>127797912
>>127798086
XL, and sure thing. I wanted to do Wu next anyway, so that'll be it next time.
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>>127797526
>>127797912
>>127798086
>>127798250
This is the order I played it in for XLCE:
>Lu Bu
>Wei
>Wu
>Shu
>Jin
>Lu Bu hypothetical
>Shu hypothetical
>Wu hypothetical
>Wei hypothetical
>Currently going through Jin hypothetical to finish it off

Oh yeah, can anyone help out? In the stage select screen there's the canon and the hypothetical routes. Then there are a bunch of hidden stages at the bottom. Anyone know how to unlock each of them? Or link to a guide that explains it for each stage?
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>>127800127
I've played a little in Ambition mode, and when I went to finish up Wei, it told me I had more hypothetical scenarios added. Just play more of the game, maybe? Or perhaps you have to do something specific in one of the levels.
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Koei desu.
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Koei koei?
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Is Onimusha applicable here
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>>127808538
Not really.
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Which is better?

Wuzhang Plains or Chibi?
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>>127810805
Chibi. Best DW8 soundtrack
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Can someone direct me to a torrent for Story of the Han Dynasty? I found this
http://www.d-addicts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=74642&sid=d4c3c881f570f7993b065a1cd0b0bfc3#p1193104
but I don't see a download link anywhere
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>>127811693
> "This river shall be the end of Liu Bei and Sun Quan! Go forth my elite troops, and seize me victory!"
best hypothetical
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>>127811902
can't find it so here? i forget which site i used so here you go
>http://kickass-torrent.info/the-story-of-han-dynasty-t3016474.html
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>>127813165
Thanks senpai
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At last, 100% completion.
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>>127814381
No problem
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>>127813165
>you'll never have fancy-ass hair
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>>127790000
various interviews and stuff that Raindrops translated.
http://www.raindropsanddaydreams.co.uk/

>>127745136
Amazing.
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>>127814665
How does it compare to Three Kingdoms?
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>>127815530
production values are decent, if you don't know much about the history it's a bit confusing because they throw a bunch of stuff at you

ps liu bang is a complete dickhead
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>>127818640
get rekt Xiao Qiao
Chunhua proving her superiority.
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Zhang Chunhua is a dike
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>>127818640

>Chunhua
>Angry

two words anyone should never want to see together
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>>127821178
Chunhua fans get angry when they realise the truth.
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/BASARA/ here.
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>>127822964
Chun-Li costume is best
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>>127823098
Agreed.
Is it bad that I like they gave her Chun's hair so now it's impeccably easy to just shoop more Kasuga fanart into existence with some color editing?
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>>127823852
I'm certainly not gonna stop you.
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Good. ;)
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>>127824176
Is there a need to be so lewd?
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>>127777001
>playing dw
>hate the fuck out of lu bu
>fucking edgelord tough kid nothin personnel asshole
>laugh when he gets executed

>watch the show
>lu bu is actually an endearingly simple manchild who loves his diaochan more than anything else and having fun
>i sob like a bitch for half an hour when he's executed

why couldn't they have just made him a dick? christ, that was heartbreaking
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>>127826393
>execute the man who by nature detests fighting
Cao Cao rarely makes the wrong decision but I will admit he did when he gave the order
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>>127826393
You should play Legend of Lu Bu, the fanmod of Legend of Cao Cao. That one has a really well done story despite being just a fanmod and has a very sympathetic Lu Bu.
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>>127823852
>is it bad
Chun costume without the hairstyle is fucking stupid anyway, they should always come as a package.

Pic related is an atrocity and this is coming from a dude who loves short hair so much.
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>>127827516
The fuck.
That doesn't even look right!!
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>>127827516
Looks pretty good desu
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>page 10
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>10
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>>127842737
Did Snoop Draggon start using a bench in memory of his father?
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JYAMADA
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>>127820917
>>127818640
Photoshopped.
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daily reminder to remove benevolence
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>>127834953
Best ROTK design as well as Ma Yunlu
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Koei desu.
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>>127839536
Hot damn, Mago's tiddy game is strong on PS4
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Koei desu.
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So has it been confirmed RoTK13 is getting a january 28th english steam release?
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>>127863253
Nothing is confirmed, but we know it's coming thanks to the Steam DB leak.
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Koei desu.
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>>127863253
Koei hasn't even announced the localization yet.
We know they'll translate it sooner or later, but that's it.
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>>127863253
It's coming out THAT early? No, can't be.
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N I N E W H E N
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>>127870861
We're on page nine right now if that's what you mean.
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Why are the heroes subject Demonization in this timeframe while the villains are given a fairy tale story?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOmWE2-2uHo
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>>127870861
Arrow faggots
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>>127875337
Points of view about heroes got twisted with time, anon.
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>>127826393
trully great man
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>>127885887

>liu bei will never be as stunning
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>X
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>天
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>>127868792
Possibly a mistake.
The Japanese version is out at that date but there's not even a mention of an overseas version.
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>>127893021
>Possibly a mistake.
No mistake, an English SubID on SteamDB just means that the English version is planned, not that it's going to be released on the same day as the Japanese one.
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>>127772592
>>127772859
>>127773409
>Sanadas
Yukimura is a stupid mongoloid who couldn't quit and the fact that several different and unrelated characters fellatio him through the game is mind numbing.

How did this secondary character from SW1 became at the same time, the main protagonist of the series AND the main antagonist? Shit doesn't make sense and he sucks in both roles.
Nobuyuki
At least when HE does something stupid or morally questionable his character sells and reacts to said actions as such.

The anime was even somehow worse than SW4-II for both characters.
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>10
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>X
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>>127899875
Where did you even get the impression that he was a secondary character? The dude is the series poster boy since day one you mongrel.

>shit doesn't make sense
The only thing that doesn't make sense is the gay brother rivalry/bond shit. Yukimura was the last resistance against Tokugawa and naturally he'd be the main antagonist and protagonist, depending on which side are you on.
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>mfw just won SW4-2
Suck my dick, Koei, I would've never paid money for that.
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>>127870861
Soon, possibly. The question is, who will they add and will they cut the roster down?

>>127904943
How?
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>>127906859
>How?
KTE's twitter.
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>>127907014
They were doing a contest?
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>>127909562
Freebie code friday is what they call it.
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>>127909963
Well, shit. Are they still doing it? I was looking at 4-II myself.
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>>127910749
They do it on a first come first serve basis. Gotta input quickly.
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>ten
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>>127911209
I don't have a Twitter account, so I guess I'll wait for it to go on sale...

And Xiahou Ba's Siege Spear, what the shit? I like it, but holy fuck, ancient China was not THIS advanced.
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>>127915442
I don't think ancient China had arm mounted machine guns, infinite ammo gatling gun ballistae, magic fan lasers, flying swords or whirligig saws either to be fair.
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>>127915887
They didn't? Aw.

Whirligig where you're able to take off the saw part when?
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>>127915887
I know, but at least the ballistae, rams and catapults are logical. That spear just stood out to me more than the swords or any of the other weapons. I love Ba and that weapon overall, it just took me by surprise.
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>>127915887

>no magic fan lasers
I don't believe you
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Koei desu.
I realize what I hate most about Ambition mode: I time out more than I get defeated. Those maps and your character being slow as molasses does not help at all, even with a horse.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOmWE2-2uHo

>ieyasu fuck off REEEEEEE
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Koei koei?
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>page 10
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Koei desu.
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Just accept death.
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DAME DESU MINA SAN
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>>127922116
>we will never get this because it's a rerelease and not an expansion
I WANTED TAIKO RISSHIDEN SINCE I LEARNED IT EXISTED NOW THIS HAPPENS AND AAAAAA
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>>127929862
>tfw have been waiting for Osaka campaign since forever
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>>127929862
>>127929965
>>
KYAAAAAAAA
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Who do you think is the character that nobody uses in DW?
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>>127935393
No one.

Even the retarded ones are used by drebin memers or hipsters.
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>>127935393
Xu Zhu
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>>127935393
That girl with the harp, I forgot her name
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>>127936209
Wrong. What >>127935575 said, there's someone for everyone, and it's why I like the main series to all the other spin-offs that tend to overlook their characters for oddballs and flavors of the month. It's funny when the main series has the main faces, the lesser knowns and the oddballs all in one. I'm serious, I'll be more mad if they cut someone at this point.

>>127936701
Cai Wenji, and I use her, too.
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>>127937053
>I'm serious, I'll be more mad if they cut someone at this point.
Yeah me too. There's some that'd make me stop buying the games if they got cut because I got attached to them and then the rest is just a case of "don't cut these fuckers because at least ONE guy will get mad".
Well and if anything I'll be the one to get mad because they really don't need to cut anyone.
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>>127937314
Agreed. As much as I shit on Bao, I'm not wishing for her to get cut. Again, I can't fathom how a main series gets its roster right, but the spin-offs don't even attempt to do that half-right.
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Koei desu.
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>>127935393
Guan Suo
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>10
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>>127946752
Sima plz
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>10
I'm gonna go kill some more east asians with my rocket spear.

Wish me luck!
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>>127951248
I timed out again.
Fuck everything.
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I guess /eagg/ has a life after all.
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>>127956585
Does it count as living when we're dead most of the time until our corpse reaches Page 10?
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>>127956706
No.
It's like when you're an inch from death, and you pulsate another sign of life from your body.
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>>127958829
EXAMPLE BEING THIS POST
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>>127961619
ANOTHER ONE FOR THE HEART
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I wish koei would bring taikou risshiden over.
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>>127966867
There's still hope for Sengoku Risshiden to come over. Don't lose hope, anon.
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Dian Wei's body had more life than this thread.
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>>127969419
Then if we're at least 1/4 as tough, we can make it!
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>>127971840
what the fuck
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>>127971840
>if we're at least 1/4 as tough
I'm not even 1/100 as tough as Dian Wei.
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>>127971840
Zhenji: Page 10
Best girl's sister and Guan Sao(?):Us

Seriously, what is that?
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>>127973743
>Zhenji
>Guan Sao(?)

damn nigga
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>>127974157
Cow shit plz
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So people.
Ever played an old arcade game?
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>>127976203
Hey, I recognize that game. Never managed to finish it though.
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>>127976203
I had been looking into it, but goddamn there's so many versions. I just grabbed them all, I'll test which one is the best. I'm not expecting Sengoku 3, but ROTK setting is good enough.
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>>127976203
>Shit
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>>127973743
That would be Wang Yi, Daqiao and Lu Xun
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So what's the next stupid weapon they can think of?
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>>127976203
Is this the long-running Chinese rip-off of Tenchi wo Kurau?
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So, I'm new to DW, but was trying to get into the series. Which game would be best for me to start with?
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>>127987927
8XLCE
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>>127987969
Thanks for the speedball response. I'll look into getting it.
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>>127988006
I'm sitting here in front of my PC with nothing to do so I might as well.
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>>127988031
Not complaining. I was just expecting to wake up to an answer, not get one instantly.
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>>127988090
It's all good, bro.
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>>127987927
DW7 has better introductory to the story, characters and storytelling, but DW8 has better gameplay. Starting with either one is fine, but only DW8 has a complete edition.
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>>127988231
>DW7 has better introductory to the story, characters and storytelling
He can watch the pre-rendered cutscenes on Youtube, they are the only thing that DW7 does better than 8.
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>>127976203
I miss the age of arcades where there were so many of these games.
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>>127988693
> they are the only thing that DW7 does better than 8.

And the voiced camp conversations.
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>>127990542
Isn't that problem only in the English dub?
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>>127990625
Yeah
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>>127986876
A mech
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>>127986876
Flying Guillotine
Flaming spear
Bow with trick arrows like Hawkeye
Metal knuckles for a non grappling pure beatdown moveset
Acupuncture needles
A spellbook
Flags
Morningstar
Throwing spears
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>>127996618
>morning star
>retarded
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>>127986876
Fireworks.
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>>127904901
BECAUSE he was the poster boy on a Koei game actually, up until that point, beign a poster boy means you get a couple missions dedicated to you and that's it. Hell it's still true to Zhao Yun. Do you even Koei, bro?

>Last Resistance against Tokugawa
>Naturally he'd be the main antagonist and protagonist

SW1: Focus on Oda
SW2: Focus on Sekigahara
SW3: Focus on Yukimura in the Hideyoshi/Mitsunari Ishida Army
SW4: Spread out focus on several clans, still a heavy Hideyoshi bias just by shear character numbers
SW4-II: Fucking Kojuro Katakura reaching a platitude where he praises Yukimura as an example of dumb fellatio to a character that has nothing to do with him.


By the way, all game had an Osaka campaign stage. In SW1/2, Yukimura is seen as a more tragic figure. He "sells" his lost at Nagashino, has a second wind with his Kanetsugo/Ishida friendship (And Shigen/Kunoichi on the first game). When he goes on his Osaka mission, he pretty much knows it's a lost cause. There is more weight to it.

In SW3, he doesn't really give a fuck about any of his constant loses and is compared to fucking Honda Tadakatsu in a couple SW Chronicles stages.

In SW4-II there is a voice clip where he pretty much shrugs the death of Hideyori and keeps fighting anyway, perpetuating the age of chaos and killing a bunch of people in the process because "muh samurai spirit".

Do you get it, the point I am trying to make?
They removed all the complexity of the character andhaving him as the main protagonist in one story and the main antagonist in another sucks because the character sucks now.
Don't even have to go that far, just watch the horrible anime and try to defend neo-Yukimura. You can't, bro.
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>>127904943
>>127907014
Actually SW4-II has a shit ton of content. I'm like 30 hours in and there is still campaigns to do. As far as XL releases go it's pretty decent.
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>>127929862
We might get it if Steam release of Nobunaga's Ambition sels well.
Oh who am I kidding...
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>>128002006
I'm not paying for it beacuse it's a cashgrab.
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>>128001539
This guy gets it. Though hopefully this is just a stupid thing in 4 and Koei will drop it to have a different approach in future installments, or at least go with the anime approach where Yukimura participated in Osaka because he was riled up to do so by many factors, and in the end accepted that he is a relic of old and went to face his death honorably to pretty much put an end to the Sengoku.

>>128002006
Lots of its content is repeated though and if you take a careful look at it, the content sucks a lot. I'd go for a more detail post for why, but it's midnight where I am, so maybe later.
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>>128002274
Nigga you are in a Koei games general.
Do you really oppose expansions that much?
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>>128002367
No, it's just that I'm not overly happy with how SW4 turned out in general
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would 4-ii not simply be just XL with a different name?
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>>127675173
i tried watching the new one. peter ho is no hu jun

it's like the new shui hu zhuan vs the 80 or 90s version. why.jpg

if you want more hu jun check out the great revival.

some other good ones are
>han wu da di
>dan han tian zi
>shui hu zhuan 1983
>shui hu zhuan 1998
>da qin di guo
>jing zhong yue fei
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>>127971840
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>>127678456
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rYUDahgHaU
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>>128007252
>Zhao Yun was the original Jackie Chan, fighting whild holding a baby and not wanting any trouble for his lord.
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>>128008793
>Jackie's name, Sing Lung, means Already a Dragon

Jackie is Zhao Yun's descendant
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>>127986876
A mini catapult that you can ride around, running people over and then fire at people at long range.
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>>128014818
These were already in SW1.
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>page 10
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i got a ps3 any recommendation?
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>>128018937
Demon's Souls is good.
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>>128018937
>>128019380
i mean musou games
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>>128019645
I was joking.

DW8 is good.
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>>128018937
Samurai Warriors 4
Warriors Orochi 3
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>>128018937
If a serieshas a "complete edition" for the system, snatch that.
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If Capcom ever do Sangoku Basara, how do you think the characters would be done?
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>>128021423
Zhao Yun becomes OYAKATA-SAMAAA. And seeing how Xiahou Dun is often his rival in intros, Dun is PUT YA PATCH ON.
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>>128021716
No Guan Yu using his beard to swing the blade?
Or Lu Meng being possessed briefly by Guan and wreaking havoc?
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>>128022072
Hey man, I did two characters. You guys can think of the rest
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>>128022364
They'd surely turn some dude into a lady.
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>>128022651
And someone into a Gundam
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>>128022808
Guandam Yu?
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>>128022364
For some reason I can see them make Cao Cao a shota just because.
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>>128024450
And Sima Yi into a mature lady for some of dat /ss/, right?
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>>128024596
We're talking SB here, if anything Sima Yi is a mature old guy.
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>>128022364
Cheng Pu would be added
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>>128027836
Cheng Pu would be added in the fifth game and be one of the protagonists only to be forgotten on the next installment.
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>>127826393
Yeah the actor for Lu Bu is an incredibly endearing manchild and I love him so much.

He never comes across as actively malevolent, just a poor judge of character and impulsive as hell.
>>
JYAMADA
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>>128021423
A random popular character gets turned into a joke NPC. My vote goes to Zhang Liao.
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>>128036462
His thing will be that his boasts will be cut short by getting hit in the nuts repeatedly as reference to his novel death by arrow to the nuts
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>>127986876
I just played as Huang Gai. Anything is fair fucking game at this point.

This game is just surprising me left and right. How about a gong user?
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>>128041658
>musou plays the SFX when you press start in the beginning
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I gotta admit, I like the bromance that Sun Ce formed with Tai, Ci and Yu. A shame he ended up dying. And something tells me based boat user isn't going to make it, either.
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>>128044883
He actually is gonna survive for quite some time.
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>>128044883
Everyone dies.
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>>128045364
No shit son
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>>128045182
So, the other guy will die then. And I picked him, too. It's Dian Wei all over again.
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Koei desu.
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Koei koei?
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>>128053813
Just give it a few more weeks
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>>128056385
You keep saying this, just how many weeks have it been since you first say it? I have faith we'll be alright though.
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WITNESS MY MIGHT
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>>128062812
>tricked again by the thumbnail
GOD DAMNIT ZHANG LIAO WHY ARENT YOU PANG DE
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wtf

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NObdhsivd4

what am I looking at here?
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>>128064125

silky smooth 15fps
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I enjoyed SB3 pretty well. Should I get Sumeragi?
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>>128065394
Absolutely.
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>>128064125
SoI before the PUK (US version comes with PUK pre-installed). Battles were a lot less intuitive, just press those buttons in the corner of the screen.

I kinda miss how the battlefields ended up looking along with the little camps on either side but I guess that's what comes with making the combat deeper.
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>>128065394
Hell yes. Also
>posting best characters
My bro. Kasuga and Kenshin have pretty neat stories in Sumeragi, imo, even if you can't understand Japanese that well.
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>>128064216
I was more curious about the battle system, it looks completely different from Sphere of Influence
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>>128065714
Huh I see.

Also, how come the crest colors are different in the PK version compared to the original? I saw some screenshots where the Oda crest is yellow+black, isn't that the correct one?
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Been gone a while /eagg/ surprised you're all still alive
any import anons know if SW4E was any good?
is it something worth looking forward too?
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>>128067991
According to people on koeiwarriors, it doesn't feel as lifeless as DW8E, so at least it's something.
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>Proceed down the cliff without getting noticed by Cao Cao's forces!
I don't get it.
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>>128068514
DW8E was pretty much DW7E with a coat of paint.
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>>128063845
Another foe pounded by submissionby Pang De!
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>>128071015
Never mind, I'm a fucking idiot.

How does a leg wound kill you?
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>>128073028
Zhou Yu?
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>>128073028
Disease you fagtron. Everyone knows they coated their arrows with a stinky pile of poo
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>>128073659
Yes, him.

>>128074451
I figured it was poisoned, but I had some hope he'd make it with just a bum leg. Almost every fight ends in a damn death. Wu niggas got it bad.
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>>128075207
Wu usually dies via arrow.
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So, which kingdom actually won this whole thing?
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>>128076773
none
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>>128076354

The Shu-Han obviously

Just kidding it was Jin
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>>128077016
meant for
>>128076773

>tfw 5am
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>>128076773
Technically, it's Jin. But that Kingdom also turned bad really quick like 10 years after the end of the Three Kingdoms though.
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>>128076958
>>128077016
>>128077357
>tfw my Wu brothers failed to unite the land
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>>128076773
Chaos.
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Don't you fucking die on me, thread.
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>>128082910
New games when?!
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I DON'T BELIEVE IN MAAAAGIC
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/eagg/, Katsuyori has decided to hire you as his top strategic adviser. Nobunaga's homosexual son has created coalition against Hideoyoshi together with Shibata, Tokugawa, Ukita, Chokosabe and Mori. So far we decided to postpone joining the coalition so we could destroy the Tokugawa. The Oda and Shibata have been fighting Hideoyshi for a while but have reached a stalemate. Meanwhile, Hideyoshi is being pushed back in the east by the Mori and Chokosabe. The Hashiba, Oda and Shibata are all weak from the fighting, and we could strike one of them while we still have an advantage. We're at a critical point for the redemption of our clan, should we:

1) Join the anti-Hashiba coalition and try to defeat Hideyoshi while he's under pressure and can become too powerful

2) Turn around and engage the Hojo with the Uesugi

3) Attack the Shibata or Oda from behind while they're busy with Hideyoshi and engage him later on

well?
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>>128077910
Don't remind me. Wu is for the children.
Clash of the Sixteen Kingdoms when?
Implying Koei will attempt to go that route with many characters we already have
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>>128084574
Ally with the Shibata, attack the Oda, watch out for the Hojo and Toyotomi.
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Koei desu.
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>>128084207
ONWAAAAARD
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>>128085824
>Wu is for the children.
Take that back you Shu sumbag. Based Sun Jian, Xiao Qiao and Pirateboy are the best.
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>>128002240
Nobunaga sold 17,363 copies and over half of that got bough full price.

Do the math. And most Koei games already come with english translations for Asia and Nobunaga has PC releases in Japan so selling that on Steam is like a no-effort method to make money.
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>>128093510
Too bad Sun Quan is so shit and Wu in general went downhill after Sun Ce died.
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>Why aren't you hunting yourself some merch.

I'll just leave this here.
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>>128093901
Don't remind me. Didn't Sun Quan fuck over Liu Bei and Cao Cao, or at least outlive them?
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>>128093510
That was a compliment, you knob.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BS181X4F3bw
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>>128095216
>That was a compliment
My mistake, anon.
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>>128065914
I kinda wish they didn't pussy out on Kasuga's in the end though and didn't go "lol he's actually alive!"
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>>128094479
>Why aren't you hunting yourself some merch
Because the merch I want doesn't exist.
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>>128096569
A bikini Zhurong figure?
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>>128096569
What are you looking for? I've seen pretty much everything here in Japan and almost every character DW, SW or Basara
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Got this from Greg. Pretty cool guy to sit down and talk to. :3
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>>128099686
literally whu
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>>128099826
VA for Kenshin.
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>>128099869
whoa didn't expect a voice like that to come from someone like him
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>>128099948
http://www.behindthevoiceactors.com/Greg-Ayres/

you'd be surprised of the character's he plays
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>>128100285
I don't watch anime much nor do I watch them dubbed so I have no idea what I am supposed to be surprised at
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>>127665178
Jin's story, especially on Historical path, is basically "Fuck off Jiang Wei, the videogame".

They should really introduce some Late Wu characters, but beyond Lu Kang, I can't think of anyone who's (a) notable, and (b) not a complete asswipe who KT would have to whitewash to make an acceptable playable character.
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>>127675173
They did put Xiang Yu in Strikeforce 2. He dual wields greatswords, and has a few battles against Lu Bu.

>>127774354
IIRC, there's a gimmick with how you use his charge attacks that maximises their range.

>>127776340
She stopped being worst girl when Bao became playable.

>>127792198
I thought Liu Bei was too busy raging and coughing up blood at Baidi Castle to write a letter? Unless it was that smartass Zhuge Liang faking Liu Bei's signature.
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>>128102636
>IIRC, there's a gimmick with how you use his charge attacks that maximises their range.
Some attacks unfold the chain and others fold it again.
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>>128075207
Wu's historical path is conga line of character deaths. Taishi Ci's death at Hefei feels hilariously tacked on, simply because it happens so suddenly mid-stage.
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Wu: Death conga line and pussy leader
Shu: Depressing till the end (except for Liu Shan)
Jin: Shut up Jiang Wei and generics

What about Wei?
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Was Liu Shan choice to surrender a good thing or a bad thing?
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>>128107410
the game seems to imply it's to stop further bloodshed
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http://www.nhk.or.jp/sanadamaru/story/story01.html
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>>128109517
>They actually used the game map in the drama
The absolute madmen.
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Who is the saddest character in DW?
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>>128104245
>Wei
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Juqm94sUV_E
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>>128102104
>(b) not a complete asswipe who KT would have to whitewash to make an acceptable playable character.
I don't see why that's an issue. What's wrong with having a bad guy? I'd fill Late Wu with bad guys, make out Lu Kang as the last real hero within Wu like he was.
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>>128099869
>>128100285
>not Romi Park
>not Jouji "You Better Duck, I'm About To Turn To The Left And I Don't Want To Hit You With Muh Dick" Nakata
That's a pretty weak Kenshin
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Wu gets no love at all
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>>128110668
Ding Feng
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10
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10
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what level should I be (lana/link) before attempting rupee glitches on hyrule warriors?
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Live, damn you, live
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>>128110990
>What's wrong with having a bad guy?
Nothing. And if we lack a good number of them, I'm all for having more storylines where a division is suddenly corrupt and filled with bloodshed.

>>128096183
No worries. Xiaobros are like family to me.
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JYAMADA
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>tfw Tiger Mom is a shoe in for DW9
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>>128135147
>tfw the adds/story focus you want is an unpopular opinion
I just want more depressing bullshit.
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Koei desu.
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>>128139254
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I hate that stage with Guan Yu and his brats. Fan Castle can fuck right off.
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>>128135147
>shoe in
You know, a family without a mother is weird as shit.
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>>128145807
I can see them adding in Guan Yu's wife and another sibling, probably another girl to get otakubux from with Bao Shittiang and YangPingPong.
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>>128147558
And then they're going to make them found a j-pop band or some shit?
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>>128148165
Why not? Hell, the second daughter can use a Guanzi with wind related moves.
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>>128148552
Go away, I'd rather have them actually add the last remaining family member of the faction focused on being a family instead of another fucking Guan kiddy.
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>>128147558
>another god damn Guan
Fuck off.
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>>128144358
>not liking glorious Yu Jin, Cao Ren and Pang De's shortlived spotlight.
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>>128148862
>>128149296
C'mon, it's genius. She can be the imouto to everyone else and cheer them on with her spunky and energetic personality! Even the enemies will find her adorable and she'll have the whole battlefield dazzled by her charm.

Seriously, you know they'll probably add someone like that, with a broken moveset. Bao was only the beginning.
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>>128149743
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>>128149743
Japan doesn't even like Sannyan, so I have no goddamn clue why you're pushing this so hard.
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>>128149892
JAPAN SHIT TASTE OTAKUS FUJOSHI PANDERING NEETBUX MOE KAWAII DESU NYAN GARBAGE KYS
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>>128149892
I don't want another Guan, I was just fucking about. That won't stop the devs from forcing their shit taste onto everyone else. Give me some more veterans and leave the idolshit where it belongs.

>>128149619
They died before they could savor it.
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>>128150354
>That won't stop the devs from forcing their shit taste onto everyone else.
But we're talking about DW here, not SW.
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>>128150518
Fine and well.
How bad is the SW side?
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>>128151012
DWfags constantly compare about waifufag-pandering but SWfags died because of it already.
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>>128151410
complain about*
Shit.
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>>128151410
I'm not too happy with Linkle, so I can only hope things don't go sour from here.
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>>128151410
>>128154923
DW should remove every female in the game because women shouldn't fight and it would cut the bloated roster. They should also redesign all of the fags and gays and make them awesome and cool badasses. The games were so much better back when there werent gayboys and dumb women. Everything was downhill after 5.
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>>128155118
Who let /v/ inside again
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>>128155118
Zhang He is the only fruit we have, and you will not be cutting or altering him in any way shape or form.
>>>/out/
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Come tell old uncle liu bei why you're so dead
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>>128161427
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>>128161427
I wonder why they redesigned him so hard from 5 to 6
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>>128166953
Probably so his ship with SSX wouldn't look so weird/creepy, as 6 is where their relationship started to get more screentime.
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>>128170791
Which is funny since they aged her down too so it's still kinda creepy. If only they had aging models
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>>128170962
Maybe in DW10.
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>>128170962
soon
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>>128099686
Is that Adam Sandler?
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>>128172928
i'd be horribly offended if anyone mistook me for adam sandler
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JYAMADA
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>>128110668
The official suffering rankings

>1) Ma Chao
>2) Yu Jin
>3) Ding Feng
>Sun Quan
>Cheng Pu because he's still not a character
>The people of Shu

Feel free to add more
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>>128182050
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>>128182050
>1)
>Anyone but Liao Hua
Dude first picked up a sword to fight for freedom yet got oppressed mercilessly, wandering aimlessly around the land for 20 years or so, then lived to the rise and fall of Shu, while seeing all of his friends and loved ones died after one and another.
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>>128182050
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>>128182446
Yeah but Ma Chao had that three tmes with one of them being while he was outside his castle walls while his clan had their throats slit and where then thrown over the walls at him. Ma Chao also lost his him lands and anyone else he came across he was straight up cursed with people dying he couldn't take a shit without it somehow causing someone to die.
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>>128182050
there needs to be a tv show where it houses the saddest warriors in all the three kingdoms
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>>128182729
At least Ma Chao was spared to see Ma Dai dying. Liao Hua is literally the last of his generation.
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>>128182050
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>>128182951
a dark humour sitcom set in an inn on a road in the middle of nowwhere in China and they visit it from time to tme
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>>128183190
everyone is on the verge of suicide but they never go through with it
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>>128183116
He coughed up blood when he saw Ma Dai probably dissapointed more than anything
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HI HI
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>>128155118
Is it okay to call this post sexist as fuck or does that make me an SJW?
Can I at least call it retarded?

Seriously some of the most interesting characters in Dynasty Warriors are women (Wang Yi, Lianshi, Yinping, Yueying), and the blandest, least inspired characters are all "awesome and cool badasses" like Zhang Liao, Pang De, Guan Yu, and Taishi Ci.

Like shit, even the blandest most boring woman (Cai Wenji) is more interesting than at least ~15 of the dudes.
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>>128155118
>i've never kissed a girl, the post
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>>128188241
>Zhang Liao
>Bland
Waifufag plz leave.
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>>128189508
"I will be the strongest" is fucking bland I'm sorry.

His Musketeer-esque facial hair does not save him.
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>>128190624
>Not liking twin axes
>Not doing that ballin' two step
>Not getting hype when he powers up
>JYAMADA
To each his own, I guess.
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>>128188241
You have shit taste.
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>>128186939
I thought the consensus is that literally no one likes that annoying little shit, why are you being a contrarian anon?
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>>128192378
Because DW7 introduced a girl that managed to make her tolerable, and eventually, god-tier.
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>>128192580
At least Bao doesn't shout all the time.
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>>128188241
You're a faggot. Not only are the most interesting not women since they hardly did shit historically, the guys aren't bad. Not before you try to shit on me. Xiao Qiao is my favorite, but realistically she shouldn't be playable.
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>>128193112
At least Xiaoqiao doesn't have to brand herself to get attention.
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>>128188241
>Lianshi
>interesting

haha

I do like some of the female characters, but so many of them are just bland attachments to their husbands. SW handles the female characters much better, to be honest.

Also ROTK XIII is looking pretty great. I'm so excited to play a ROTK where you get to be an officer again. VIII and X were my favorites up till now. I still remember this crazy ass playthrough of VIII where I played as the legendary loser Pan Feng and after several defections and rebellions later, basically had my own kingdom in the Wu areas along with Lü Bu tier stats.
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>>127627676
>Zhang Liao
>Cao Pi issued an imperial decree: "During the Battle of Hefei, Zhang Liao and Li Dian defeated an enemy force of 100,000 with only 800 foot soldiers.
>defeated an enemy force of 100,000 with only 800 foot soldiers
Literally how
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>>128196678
>Pan Feng
You dare talk shit about the legendary War God himself?

>>128196989
He didn't. That's how.
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>>128197126
>He didn't. That's how.
You dare talk shit about the legendary War God himself?
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>>128196989
>>128197126
Strategy is one factor. Moral is another. Defeat doesn't mean slaughter.
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