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Remove Vermin Edition

Old >>127405667

>Patch 1.09 Info
http://www.jp.playstation.com/op/bloodborne/news/2015/12/update109.html

>Accessing the DLC
http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2015/09/the-old-hunters.html
Note: If the eye isn't showing up, go to: Settings > Playstation Network/Account Management > Restore Licenses

>Co-Op & PvP
http://www.bloodbell.com/
Official PvP Chalice: hizzngr3 (Pthumeru Root)
Saturday Fight Club: 6cb7ieyy (every Saturday 6pm EST, rules:http://imgur.com/1RjNbF4)

>Resources Pastebin - Character Planners, MP Range/Weapon AR Calculator, Where to go next in BB, Guide Scans(Base Game & DLC) and Wikis
http://pastebin.com/aNR8TXUr

>Chalice Pastebin - General Info, Glyphs for Gems/Best Gems Setups, Multiplayer and Speedrunning
http://pastebin.com/489M5NBv

>Media Pastebin - OSTs, Concept Art and Screenshots
http://pastebin.com/t8byCxfj

>Beasthood & Claws Info
http://pastebin.com/jnbs35ZX

>Wheel, Fight Club, Arc 101, Chalice Dungeon Speedrun Info and DLC Guide Scans
http://ssjnugget.imgur.com
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Confederates best covenant
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>>127423471
Something something vermin removal.
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I'm sorry mr Dan Hibiki, I keep getting caught.
I can try just standing to the side instead of trying to stun him if that'd help? It goes against every bone in my body to not try to help though
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>>127423638
Thats not how you spell Vileblood
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>>127423762
Are you still fighting Ludwig?
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>>127423808
Yeah
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So what beast did Valtr eat? Laurence?
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>>127423795
Why would Vile Cucks be the best covenant?
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>>127423853
password?
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>>127423875

How do you eat a beast and not go loopy?
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>>127423889
Best looking area in the base game. I love the snow.
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>>127423965
plipplop

12 humanity left

I really suck at Bloodborne today
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any kind anons want to help a brother out with defiled amy
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>>127424046
I like area too, but that doesn't make it the best covenant.

>>127424043
dude was pretty loopy already

>>127424109
https://youtu.be/7uYl5afN2cI?t=20s
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>DLC with 10 vit
I'm ready to suffer for this Parasite.
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>>127424132
What makes the filthy beast eater, best covenant in your eyes then?

I feel like the Vilebloods were slaughtered for the show of force by the church, and I think the entire reason the player came to Yharnam was to join the Vilebloods. (and some for some reason the place and the queen just clicked with me.)
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>>127424097
I'm gonan make a coffee after this try, I'm starting to tilt. Died to that witch out the front.

>>127424219
Best of luck anon
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>>127424219
You'll be fine, just don't get hit.
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Reminder that all weapons that are not the cane are meme weapons. Users of non-cane weapons should be ignored and shunned.
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>>127424219
Ay least you don't have to fight Laurence. fucker would probably one shot you with every attack
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>>127424285
>>127424303
>>127424340
The Saif guys oneshot me.
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So your astrally projecting pretty much the whole game right?
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>>127424254
Vermin

>>127424097
>12 humanity left
backup so that you can just restore if you run out
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>>127423875

Probably just some random werewolf, I don't think Valtr and his buddies were hunters before chasing it back to Yharnam.
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>>127424043
Probably not as loopy as someone eating pieces of an umbilical cord though.
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>>127423795

Who is this qt

Also, who is your waifu in Bloodborne? Who are some qts in Bloodborne?
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>Sedatives being 5k a fucking pop when I have to use two every time I deal with the singing eyeball things
I bet the church did this
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You all saw that, it still counts.


It still counts.
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I CAN FINALLY GRIND FOR GEMS WHAT GLYPH DO I FARM FOR LHB
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>>127424647
it's complete bullshit

i just use vials instead
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>>127424427
Eh backing up is a lot of effort
I figure if I run out then I'll either keep trying solo or just come back later when I've got more levels/upgraded gear
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Am I to assume that all the people just falling over and dying in the workshop are people who idled with their HP draining equipment on?
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So what's the ideal level for the most challenge on the dlc while still being doable?
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>>127424647
>Sedatives don't innoculate you against frenzy for a while
>You start building it up again the second you pop one

Just burn through heals, sedatives aren't worth it against the Winter Trusts
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>furrylord
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>>127424828

Or using their weapons that take HP, like wheel, Chikage or Bloodletter.
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>>127424887
Level 4
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>>127424647

Just i-frame through the frenzy proc with a visceral.
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>>127424927
Doable for a casul. And don't say level 4.
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>>127425076
40 probably.
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How do I beat Rom?
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So I'm following this. Are there even 18 chunks in Cainhurst + First area before Ludwig total? If so, I apparently missed 8 chunks.
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>>127425114
At 40 you could probably still get one shot by some of the bosses in the DLC unless you dumped all your points into vit and maybe had some HP runes, which a casual probably isn't going to have
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>>127424427
Well... We got the cutscene.

I'm reconsidering that +6 ludwigs sword
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>>127425225
Sounds challenging but doable to me.
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>>127424648
>>127424917

Cool character
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How do I HMS build?
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>>127425201
Smack her until she dies.
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Is there any armor in this game that looks terrible? Or is every set in this game glorious to look at.
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>died 8 times trying to jump out of the elevator into the open window in Mensis
This isn't even hard
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>>127425201
>kill all spiders
>if it stands up, run left or right
>if it rolls over, back the fuck up
>if it sticks it's ass in the air, back the fuck up
>if it flops around, wait for it to finish then whale on it
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>>127425207
1(2?) in frontier
1 in forbidden woods
5(?) in cainhurst

one crystal lizard in the dlc before the gattling gun dude
not sure how many more
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>>127425312
I don't think a self described casual would be able to get through most of the DLC bosses without getting hit unless they just plan on sitting in a corner with cooperators
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>>127425459
>kill all spiders
>it's shooting me with arcane bullshit
I can only survive one of these, not both.
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>>127425201
if you ahve beast blood pellets - ensure you have as little insight as possible to give the biggest beasthood gauge. kill all his spider friends, then unequip your weapon and eat a pellet, hit rom with R2 attacks to rapidly fill the gauge up, then swap back when full and go to town. If you are at a normal level for rom with a decent weapon you will probably be able to knock off 2/3 to 3/4 of his hp, sometimes you output so much damage he can't even teleport. If he does teleport you usually have enough time to rush him, ignore the spiders and just keep wailing, you should be able to get the kill before he makes a move.
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>>127424771
>>127425253
Go home and be a family man.
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>Ready to look for big tier radials
>Killing FRC Watchers for first time
>Separate them
>Cheesing one slowly on the stairs with jump R2s
>Doin my thing cuz I'm worried about half health
>Seems safe enough

>Mistime a jump
>Cut in half

>dead in one hit

THIS AIN'T EVEN THAT BAD I'LL TAKE ANYTHING OVER ORPHAN
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WITNESS THIS
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>>127425547
Yes, you can. The baby spiders are dumb and tend to get separated easily and Rom's attacks have a huge tells. All you need to do is run around and wait for a baby spider to do an easily dodge attack and then counter in its ass while keeping an eye on Rom.
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>>127425676
WITNESSED
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>>127425592
I've decided to go get Ludwigs sword and make it a sinister bell playthrough instead.

I still think we should organise an event where we all start a fresh character and do a sinister bell playthrough one day
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What was your insight at when you first went into Mensis? I think I had like 80+

>>127425676
WITNESSED
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>>127425665
parry that fight, even if you don't have good skill. a few claw mark runes and you are good to go. the saw guy can be a bit of a dick to parry at times, you just need to be more careful with him.
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i dont even care if defiled amy is well designed or whatever, totally boring and shit boss
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>>127425676
MEDIOCRE
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>>127425741
Good Luck
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>>127425547
You only need to kill them all 3 times, the first time is easy since she doesn't attack, when she teleports the try to close as much distance. keep killing those spiders, she will teleport once more. Manage to kill them all again then GG, no more spiders to deal with and she won't teleport anymore.

Also, be cautious about summoning, since that doubles the amount of spiders that are summoned.. Just get bolt paper, a fast weapon and pick off those little spiders. It's long and tedious but very much worth it considering it only takes 2 little spiders to fuck you over.
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Ok, FRC bosses are next level bullshit

Get clipped by a boar's charge while rolling, dead
Get's 360'ed by Undead Giant, dead
Walk inside that giant beast, whatever his name is, and does that stupid long punch, dead
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>>127425826
Did you try to make David Bowie or something?
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>>127425201
>>127425547
At the lake, you should only kill all the spiders the first time, before she aggros.

In the Chalice, kill all the spiders from the cover of the pillars then smash Rom's face in.

>>127425929
Not quite.
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>>127425921
and?

it's not like someone deceived you and told you chalice dungeons were good
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Never listen to Lucifer. Killing all the spiders at the lake is easily done and safer than rushing Rom. just learn to pay attention to the boss and the spiders at the same time.
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>>127426141
Killing half the spiders and rushing Rom is almost as safe and 3x faster.
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>>127426252
Even leaving a single spider alive seems like more trouble than it's worth honestly. Sure there's a 1% chance you'll get distracted and one shotted from the back by it but why even take the risk
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>>127426141
All you need to do is look for an opening in the spider group, rush in, and smack the shit out of her.
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So I aggro'd a crystal lizard/beast and it got spooked and jumped through the fucking wall and off the map.

It then died because I got the souls for it.
Is there anyway to get those upgrade stones now?
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>>127426348
Kek. that character looks absolutely retarded.
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>>127425921
I see it as an anti casual and shitter thing. It filters out the bad players along with twinks and forces them to git gud if they ever want to see those high level gems. I have to agree though, artificially capping ones health is just silly.
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>>127426348

CALL.

ME.

QUEEEEEEEEEN
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>>127425757
>First drop is 27.2% phys with +3.3% stam use

THIS IS EASY
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>>127426348
Are the chalice bosses harder? This is my first time seeing it.
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>>127426452
>Are the chalice bosses harder?
Nah.
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So does the Milkweed Rune do anything else besides its minor effect and turning you into cauliflower?
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Anyone know the skin color that matches with the milkweed rune? Also I would gladly take name suggestions for a cosmic broccoli build
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Am I the only one who finds Ludwig's first phase to be so much easier than the second?

The timing on his swings just feels so much harder to read with the sword
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https://youtu.be/LzeJZZ-eYbg?t=620

>10:20
What the fuck is that
Three hit kill from a beast cutter untricked??
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>>127426424
Haters gonna hate

>>127426452
The chalice ones are usually harder, especially when they make you fight them in tiny little rooms.

>>127426536
No, but I think the second form is way easier.
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>>127426536
Ludwig's second phase is legitimately harder than the first.
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Is there any way I can fuck Adella.
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>>127426451
>tfw over 20 attempts and the first 27 has attack down.
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>>127426603
Not with the Pizza Cutter.
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>>127426534
Wear Henryk's Hunter Garb and name him Hastur.
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What is a good glyph to farm Isz physical gems?

How exactly is the Fire Saw Spear Arcane build viable? Do I need to pop fire paper for it to work?
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>>127426681
Both forms are pretty much a non issue with the pizza cutter though to be fair. Orphan of Kos is also trivialized by it.
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>>127426603
"no"
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>>127426758
Hmm are you sure because I'm pretty sure this video agrees with me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WM-n3nSLY20
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>>127426603
It's actually much, much easier. He's slower and a lot less erratic.
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Which monster would be the best fug?
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>Exploring poison caves in Frontier
>Winter Lantern frenzy builds up
>There's a fucking Winter Lantern trotting in the poison

Fuck me, guess I'm not going that way.
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>>127426724
Check the OP next time m8.

5pwujscd is for physical triangles. Fire weapons for arc builds use fire gems to convert the damage and cold abyssals for sick scaling.
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>>127426425
>>127425921
Its all worth it for good gems

all the blood echos cannot compare to a good gem
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>>127426748
With the PC, his first form is tougher because of how much he bounces around. In his second form you can stun lock him until he is ready to parry, then before he can react, stunlock hum until you can parry him again, then he is dead.
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>>127426824
>bare fists
The one scenario where you'd be right. You can dodge a few attacks and mash R1 on him until he staggers with almost any weapon.
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>>127426829
The slowness coupled with the random burst of quick successive attacks is what makes him much harder to predict than the first form. If you can stagger him in an instant though you probably wont have enough time to realize it. I can deal with the first form without getting hit now, or close to it, but the second form still gets me hit regularly
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>>127426824
>boss is harder at NG+7 with bare fists

WOW
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>>127426906
I fought him with a weapon that couldn't stagger him quickly at all during the second form. mainly because I did absolute shit for damage. believe me, without staggering the second form is a ton harder than the first. not even close.
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>>127426614
>2nd time killing watchers
>+26.3% phys and -10% vs kin

If I knew grinding through the story dungeons was the worst part of all this I would've blown through it much sooner
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>>127426851

They're pretty easy to parry and stumble brah.
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>>127426983
>First form is still easy even at NG+7 with bare fists
>Second form is difficult
Who would have thought the harder form is actually harder when you actually let the boss attack you ?
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>>127426724
If by "Isz Physical" you mean physical triangulars, 5pwujscd is the glyph everybody uses.

Fire Saw Spear needs a single "Add Fire Attack" gem, which converts all of the physical damage to pure fire, then 2 "Arcane scaling UP" gems to boost the new fire damage to insane numbers.

I might be wrong about which fire gem you need, I've never made an arcane build.
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>>127427072
Man, you have NO idea how bad it can get.
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>>127426614
...really? I have fought them maybe 10 times and got enough 27 radials for two weapons, it's easy as. granted they are durability/kin/beast down ones but I don't care about that.
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>>127427103
I panic. I mean, I could have used the Executioner Gloves, but I was already near death.
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>>127427108
>who would have though something is more difficult when you play sub-optimally?
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Can someone give me a run down on the plot of Bloodborne?

So far what I've gathered that you're some random stranger who came to Yarnham in search of a cure. But you get put under anthesia and wake up in an altenrate version of Yarnham? or is it really Yarnham as it is?

Why are there beasts? Djura says they are people, is this true? How did people become beasts?
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>>127427072
>not farming offshape 31.5% bloodtinge gems
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>>127427072
I've spent the last 16 hours of play time trying to farm Watchers for blunt gems. I now have 48 chunks, 12 new 27.2 physicals to put on other weapons, and no fucking blunt gems.
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>>127427171
Play the game.
Read Lovecraft.
Read the items.
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Does anyone have a link to that asian guy who fights orphan at I think bl4, with either a saw spear orcleaver? he doesn't backstab either and fights his second form flawlessly. the game is in moonrunes too.
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>>127427171
You're sick and hear of magic healing blood so you make you start making your way to Cainhurst.

You get healing blood at the clinic in exchange for becoming a hunter. Shit starts going south from there.

>>127427259
https://youtu.be/0TJrw5gwx-o
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>>127427171
A secret alien is fucking everything up for everyone.
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>>127427163
His second form is always harder so long as you can't stagger him in an instant. And if you can do that I don't tthink you would have much trouble with the first form either anyway.
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>>127427292
Don't lie to the guy.
You make it sound as though one of them is actively fucking people.
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>>127426858
Sorry friend but I remember the OP not working for a couple of threads. Thanks for answering anyway.
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I'm at orphan now.

Haven't fought him

I'm kinda sad that it's over.

Is there really no more dlc after this?
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>>127427302
Maybe some people are just better at reading the second form while some excel at the first and this argument has been for nothing.
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>>127427124
Not even joking. It was just so many shitty adept gems with hp gradually depletes, attack down, etc. I eventually did get some good 27% ones though, be it all of them were kin down.
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>>127427285
that's the one, that dude's reactions to the telegraphs is robotic especially in the second form where he has a split second to take the opportunity for a hit on just one attack out of them all.
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>>127427320
Well, I mean, not counting the one that is actively making the dirty with people.
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>>127427197
Does a waning bloodtinge count as offshape?
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>>127427385
killed laurence?
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>>127426920
He has a huge ass weakness in his 2nd form. He MUST finish his 3 hit combo and all of his combo is either long range attacks or GTFO close range attacks. Baiting one and punishing with the appropriate counters makes it really easy.
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>>127427385
just do what he did

https://youtu.be/0TJrw5gwx-o

fight's not even hard mate
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>>127426609

Seriously can I fuck this nun or what
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Reminder that Pizzacutter is love
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>>127427468
Well yeah, how long do you think he has been at it. Also remember videos like these make you think these people are better than they really are. He had to get it perfect pr else he would have died instantly. That doesn't mean he got it in one or even a couple of tries.

It is still really impressive though.
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>>127427575
post one more rude thing about adella and you will regret it
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>>127427575
did you seriously expect an answer

fuck off back to where you came from
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>>127427638
>he didn't do it first go

wow really I would never have guessed
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>>127427559
Ok but his combos have excellent reach and require precise timing. It's easy to fuck up a dodge on one of his combos and take huge damage. He's much less mechanical than the first form and is more about sense of timing and reflexes than pattern recognition
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>>127427735
I know, right?
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>>127427550
Yah.

Killed everyone
>>127427570
I'm not saying it's hard, the hell?

I'm saying that it's all over now.

I want more of bloodborne.
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>>127427654

Try me fuccboi I'm gonna make her bleed.

>>127427668

Your Mom's womb? Some say Mosm's womb?
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>>127427638
That pianist wasn't able to play the piano this well on the day he was born so I guess he's not really good at it
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I need some clarification, Maria and some other hunters killed Kos right? Who else killed Kos besides Maria? Also did they know about the Orphan or is that something the player discovers?
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>>127427932
Just like all abortions

Its murder
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>>127427932
Kos washed up on the shore dead.
There's no real way to tell if she was killed, or if her body just died.
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>>127427976
>Kos washed up on the shore dead.
Okay in that case, whats the big secret about the fishing hamlet then? Is Kos's corpse really the big secret?
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>>127428041
The secret was that the Burger's came in and fucked up the Hamlet folk.
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Post your hunter with their best buddy
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>>127428041
The hunters purged the town and then fucked the dead corpse for its power
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>>127427838
The Pianist doesn't restart a concert repeatedly on the day he is to perform.

>>127428041
That it is the source of the curse, and that the ancestor of the hunters inhumanely experimented on the inhabitants of the village.
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>>127428103
I thought the source of the curse came from the chalice dungeons. Thats were they discovered the first great one isn't it?
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>>127428103
Your analogy makes no sense. the pianist does practice his song over and over until he can play it well, which is exactly what that jap is doing to beat Orphan under these conditions. The point is that no one is ever good at something without putting in some work
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>>127428180
Lucy thinks that the curse is beasthood.
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>>127428180
Different curse

Fucking around with the hamlet is what started Hunters getting blood-addled and drawn into the Nightmare
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How do I into root chalice pvp
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>>127426593
>mfw I missed all the fun because of work
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>>127428226
Lucy also is a cross dresser and thinks he's a girl
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>>127428180
Listen to the guy pacing in front of the hamlet.

>>127428223
I am saying he is just doing it back to back times until he gets it perfect just once then uploads that.

The Pianist practices and practices until he can get it right every time.

>>127428358
sex != gender
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>>127428349
>mfw I miss work because of all the fun

might be losin my job
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>>127428226
I always assumed the beasthood curse was caused by the Moon Presence.
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Are people turning into beasts because of the blood given to them by the Church? is the blood actually the blood that belongs to Elder Gods?
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>>127428401
Don't be a Vaati.
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>>127428464
Calm down, I haven't even mentioned my Patreon yet.
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>>127426838
The dankbeat
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>>127428358
Who isn't at this point?
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>>127428393
>mfw I neither work nor have fun

i have no face
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>>127428401
I think that the MP makes it worse.

Kos cursed hunters with Vermin. Mergo pulled MP close. MP agitates the Vermin causing a widespread and rapid outbreak versus the typical few rare cases here and there.
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>>127428603
>Kos cursed hunters with Vermin
I have serious doubts that vermin have any connection to the Great Ones.
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>>127428603
Lucy please.
You're pulling a serious Vaati.
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>>127428603
Vermin are not said or implied to have anything to do with blood or beasthood. Support this claim.
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I'm going to assume Maria and Gehrman and Co. killed Orphan of Kos in the non-dream world.
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NEED LHB PVP TIPS
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>>127428718

Can someone explain that to me? Are you in a dream state? Or are you awake when you explore Yarnham?

When you use Hunter's Mask it says you "reawaken". Does that mean you are asleep? But then Djura says that you dream which implies the Hunter's Dream is the dream state.
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According to the wiki, transformed tonitrus has 1.4x arc scaling and 1.7x bolt damage

Wouldn't that make this the strongest weapon ingame on an arc build with bolt gems?
Why do i never hear about it?
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>>127428816
Keep hitting until your enemy is dead.
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>>127428818
One theory is that you project yourself into the real world from the Hunter's Dream, which is why you "awaken" in the real world and why Bold Hunter's Marks allow you to "reawaken" at the nearest Lamp.
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>>127428818
Any area not expressly labeled a dream or nightmare is in the real world.
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>>127428818
I think you are astrally projecting the whole game. You project yourself into the Hunter's Dream or are pulled into it somehow and that serves as a hub for you to travel between different planes of existence which is why you can go to the nightmare realm.

I dunno know though
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I think I've seen someone mention that the watchdogs can be encountered as roaming mobs in the chalices. i've never ever seen one. do they drop anything good ?
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>>127428717
Do Vermin drop from co-oping kin bosses? Someone in these threads claimed no. Same with bosses from the Chalices.

So assuming the modern outbreak of the beast curse is caused by Kos, that would explain why Kin bosses and chalice bosses don't drop vermin.
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>>127428849
Tonitrus doesn't have enough base bolt damage to scale well with gems.
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Anybody notice any Berserk influences in this game? I didn't know Miyazaki was a fan of Berserk or JoJo, but the former is somewhat apparent.

>The doll has eyes inside her eyes, just like that egg from Berserk
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>>127429056
Is this your first Souls game? Berserk references have been sprinkled all throughout the Souls games and Bloodborne. You'd have to be totally unfamiliar with Berserk to not see them.
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>>127428818
Dreams aren't zzz dreams. You're travelling to the dimension of the Great Ones in "dreams". They'll often reflect reality in some fashion(but don't have to) e.g. the Hunter's Nightmare reflecting a distorted version of past Yharnam or the Hunter's Dream being a replica of Gehrman's real world workshop. Nightmares can even have people in them who have long past in the real world(Micolash, Orphan, probably Gehrman, Maria, Ludwig, Laurence, basically everyone in the Hunter's Nightmare)
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>>127429056
>I didn't know Miyazaki was a fan of Berserk

Where the hell have you been?
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The entire Micolash fight is a reference to the final scene with Roy Batty in Blade Runner
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>>127428392
Knew it

You're a homo!
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>only 2 invaders in 15 minutes

WHY FIGHT CLUB EMPTY
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>>127429103

Nope, this isn't my first Souls game. You are correct, I am very unfamiliar with Berserk considering I had just started reading it this summer...and I gave up when they got to the flashback arc because it was so long.

I know the plotline of Berserk though, from reading wiki's.

>>127429147
Big fan of Souls, just didn't read Berserk. I heard some guy got off a canoe or something recently.
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>>127428971
All bosses drop vermin. There's no explicit connection between Kos and Kin either.
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>>127429165
What
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>>127429192
>I heard some guy got off a canoe or something recently.
It was a kayak, actually.
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>>127428971
>Someone in this thread claimed

And I'm claiming that if you eat all four umbilical cords you unlock a secret boss that comes after Moon Presence. Beating this boss unlocks the fourth ending where you create a new dream altogether, then Eileen comes back to life before giving you a blowjob. Then all the amygdala come together and spell "Lucifer is a faggot" in the sky
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>>127429247
I believe it.
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>>127429230

really? I heard it was a paddleboard. What was the guy's name? Intestines?
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>>127429223
LIKE TEARS IN THE RAIN, KOSM

TIME TO AWOOOO
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>>127429247
I can confirm this, I just did that ending on my last playthrough. My favourite scene was the part about Luci being a faggot
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>>127429192
>I gave up when they got to the flashback arc because it was so long.
The golden age arc?

So you basically stop reading less than 30 percent through...
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>>127429318
Pretty sure it's Entrails.
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>>127429036
Can it not be plugged with bolt gems?
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>>127429223
The awooo, the way you're chasing him around and the whole aesthetic of the location you fight him in iare a dead giveaway dude
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>>127429358
That's also one of the best parts imo, the build up to the disaster that is the end of that arc is incredible
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>>127429358

I have a hard time reading or watchign build up to something you know that is inevitabley sad/tragic. Like Griffith. Maybe if I hadn't been spoiled, but to be honest this manga is like 30 years old so no way I could had been not spoiled.
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So I wonder where in the world of Bloodborne the fishing hamlet is. We really don't get any info about places other than Yharnam and the immediate surrounding areas. If the hamlet is far away from Yharnam, that might mean other places have connections with the Great Ones in some ways. Really the only reason Yharnam is important is because of blood healing and how the healing church and Byrgenwerth are trying to force evolution.
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>>127429387
The gems will only affect the miserable base bolt damage of the Tonitrus
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>>127429351
>>127429247
no bully, plox

>>127429523
Do they not affect the buff?
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>>127429386

No man, it was Stomachs. Cause he's a Mach-o man and he can't be Sto-pped.
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Lately I've been screwing around with making an Arcane build for AYY LMAO.

And I've been wondering, what is the best weapon there is, for such low stats. I've been using a Saw Cleaver with Fire. A Saw Cleaver with Lightning. And an Arcane Cane. I mean, until you get the Tentacles.
Ignoring everything but the stats in pic related. What weapons should I be looking into for those extra few stat points -- bearing in mind they'd be for my Fire and Lightning damage. I figured I'd put 5 points into Skill, and get two Church Picks considering they do both Serrated, Holy and Piercing. Giving me all groups of damage. Serrated and Fire for beasts. Church weapon for other shit. Lightning and Piercing for Aliens. Plus it has an amazing move set, high stagger, and long distance.
Then that leaves me with two extra points I can put into endurance.

What do you guys think?
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>>127429564
They are affected by the buff but it's still not enough to do respectable damage as an arcane character. tonitrus does more damage with Strength
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>>127429515
The Hamlet, as you see it in the DLC, is above the Hunter's Nightmare.
Where it might have been located in the Waking World, who knows, but it was probably close to the Burger joint.
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>>127429604
I actually took an arcane character with church pick to NG+2 with stats close to yours and I like it
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Does anyone have that cute image of Fool's Idol laying on her stomach just reading a book?

I used to love posting that image when I was in the Souls generals.
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>>127429604
A bolt Saif wouldn't be a bad idea, I don't think. And with that you'd only need two points into skill instead of five.
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>>127428895
>kill almost everyone in two swings

THIS IS RADICAL
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>>127429845
Agreed pick (and pizza) are too many points to spend on an arc build

I'd rather have 70arc
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>>127429907
Never post Shoko in this thread again.
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>>127429750
This?
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>invade a guy

> he kills me the first time due to silliness

> invade again and it's him
>this time I win and he is giving me hate mail fucking hard

What the shit
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How is an arcane axe when using cold abyssals for good scaling?
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>>127430032

Yes, thank you. Huh, I guess I remembered the pic being different, like more chibi and more stylized.

Whatever, this is just as cute. I always liked her theme, it was so eerie and fitting. Perfect for my DnD sessions.
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>>127430039
Post please. Let us revel in his salt. Fanmail is woefully scarce, and I'm always fixing to see more of it.
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>Use same monitor for ps4 as I do for PC
>controller doesn't vibrate when you invade/get invaded/etc like it did in DS2 and DS1
>have to keep switching between modes or just stare at my character
>no enjoyable and surprising sudden buzzing on my dick to alert me to imminent PvP

life is suffering
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>>127430047
Decent. 720ish AR if I recall correctly. That's at 70arc
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>>127429975
that's the only picture I have of her

why is she forbidden
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Ebrietas a cute
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>>127430202
Can't you just use the PS4 gold headset and listen for when you are being summoned?
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>>127430275
Because she is the biggest shit that caused everything to go to hell
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>>127430275
She ruined everything for everyone for all time.
If you have to post girls from that particular animeme, post the stinky hikki.
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>>127430275
Ruined it.
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What makes a kin a kin? Are cauliflower people kin?
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>>127430275
just dont do it man
dont ruin it
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Now that the dust has settled can we agree that bloodlickers are the worst enemy?
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>>127430475
Kin is people you ain't s'posed to fuck, but nobody cares when the 'shine is flowing!
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>>127430538
>not crows
>not dogs
Fuck outta here
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>>127430548
kek
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>>127430538
The shark faggots are

I used to believe in blood suckers to be the worst but fuck them. Fuck the shark fucks.
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>>127430538
No.
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>>127430538
if those are the faggots outside cainhurst castle, then yes. Can't think of any other normal enemies who annoyed me so much
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>>127429907
use bloodtinge
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>>127430670
>Chikage/Bowblade
You are literally a meme.
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>>127424620

this qt3.14 right hree
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>>127430670
>Green hair
Disgusting.
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>>127424620
She's the queen of the vilebloods

I'd smash that
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>>127430670
How do I beat some faggot who shoots a gun for like 200 damage every shot, every time I try to go in on someone like this I get parried
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>>127430602
What sharks? Nigga what are you talking about?
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>>127431032
The giant fish faggot

Holy shit, I one shot every boss

Etc

But those mother fuckers
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>>127431069
>one shot

please stop incorrectly using this.
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>>127431000
What weapon are you using?
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>>127431069
Oh the giants that bellyflop and slip and slide everywhere and have tracking on their meme slide attack?
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>>127430275
When the best girl is the one that gets raped you know there's something wrong about the other one.
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>>127431116
How about I one shot in your mouth
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>>127430858

I bet people who like the doll also choose Rei over Asuka.

Because you know, Rei is an alien being inside of a human clone/husk. I can see the appeal of the doll now and why people make her their waifu.
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>>127431117
bbg says I'm not 'sposed to talk to you
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>>127431000
Loch Shield and transformed attack of this
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>Gehrman

How do I approach this fight? He already killed me thrice and my potions and bullets is gone now. Having to grab money to buy potions and bullets every time I die sounds very cumbersome.

Doesn't feel like he's too hard, I'm just not good enough yet.
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>>127431176
All human souls are FAR souls mang.
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>>127431183
Bbg also says to take a load in your ass

You gonna do what bbg says now?
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>>127431183
Nice! You remembered!
Here's a cookie for being such a good child! :^)
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>>127431237
Farm pigs in mensis with moon runes
Like 100k souls a run

Level up to like 70 and buy some vials
He's pretty easy to parry to deatg
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https://www.mugenmonkey.com/bloodborne/12244

Yay or Nay
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>>127431203
blt is gay tho
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>>127431342
>parry to death

That's what I thought. Well guess I have to find money now, thanks.
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>>127431424
Make sure you use 3 third cords.
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>>127431203
Which dungeon do you get the 27 gems again?
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I wanted to use bowblade ever since I saw it in the DLC trailer but apparently it's cancer?

What about boomhauer?
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>>127431237
Find the runes that restore bullets whenever you land a visceral
Find the runes that restore health whenever you land a visceral
Find the runes that boost visceral damage
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>>127431504
FRC pth ith
Glyph in the op

I know this and I've never even entered a single chalice
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>>127431526
people whine about it's "limited moveset" while using weapons with two moves that are used 90% of the time in pvp
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>>127431526
Why's it cancer
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>>127431526
Cancer? What?
It's an average weapon, and even when playing cheesy you're still vulnerable.

Boom Hammer is for oneshotting PvE scrubs.
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>>127431526
Stop being a sheep that cares about what other people think. If you want to use it then use it.
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>>127431526
it's not cancer
my charged attack strike at 750
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Why isn't there more art like this?

Stuff like the burning of Old Yharnam, or the Mensis Ritual going wrong or right? would be great.
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>>127431772
>3 durability down gems
Fuck me

And i though just one was annoying
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>>127431876
Why does durability even fucking exist in this game? You're never at any risk of being unable to get the 600 souls or whatever it costs to repair from broken, and it just adds a bit of busywork in the dream (and the occasional boss fight where your weapon breaks halfway through).
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>>127431876
if i use the bow, it doesn't take damages
I still have chicago for close combat
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Do people like the doll because she's basically an Elderitch God within a human made vessel?

Or is the doll something else?
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>>127432056
I like the doll because she's cute and nice to me.
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Gehrman built the doll to serve as his "avatar" in the dream, but failed. His mania was "curious" because he wanted to be Maria - that's why he got a set of clothes made for playing dress up.

Gehrman was a crossdresser, not a dollfucker.
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I have 45 vit, is it better to stack damage reduction runes or HP% runes for pvp?
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>>127432056
People like the doll because she's cute and loves you unconditionally
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>>127432056
>Doll
>Great One
Vaati please.
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>>127432020
>bow doesnt consume durability

Is this a grand ruse?
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>>127432273
B-but muh white blood!
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>>127432228
1.15 vs 1/0.9 or 1/0.95

HP Rune is always better
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>>127432114
>>127432256

Does the doll actually love you or is she just really nice to you like Maiden in Black was?

>>127432202
What do you mean by, "mania was curious"? Specifically, what is mania?
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>>127432335
Pretty sure the bow form doesn't use durability. Melee form on the other hand does
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>>127432502
But you shouldn't be using the melee form
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>>127432056
Some people like the Doll because she's hard wired to love you unconditionally and can never say no to you. Some people like the Doll because she's a pleasant reprise from all the blood and beasts. Still others like the Doll simply because she dresses well.

What she is, and what you think of her, hardly matters. She'll always be willing to help, in any capacity.
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>>127432390
She actually loves you
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>>127432783
She doesn't really love you though. She just mimics it. Real love implies that she had a choice.
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>>127432335
this >>127432502
the bow form doesn't use durability, as guns

also, it sounds logical that a bow blade must be fragile
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>>127432390
Among the first hunters, all students of Gehrman, was the lady hunter Maria. This was her hunter's garb, crafted in Cainhurst.

Maria is distantly related to the undead queen, but had great admiration for Gehrman, unaware of his curious mania
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>>127432717

Well, that's very nice. But is the Doll real? I mean, is there some entity inhabiting the doll?

Or is the doll part of your delusion? The doll only moves and talks when you have 1 Insight on you. I assume Insight is like a sanity meter and the more Insight you have the more crazy you've become. If this is true, I adore this mechanic because it adds to the lore quite a bit.

>>127432929
What is curious mania, I do not know the term.
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>>127432783
It's like saying a girl in a dating sim loves you. She does, but it means nothing. I feel like it was a jab at waifu fags
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>>127432891
>>127432783
>"Hunters have told me about the church. About the gods, and their love. But... do the gods love their creations? I am a doll, created by you humans. Would you ever think to love me? Of course... I do love you. Isn't that how you've made me?"
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>>127433060
Yes, she was created to love you. i.e. to mimic love.
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>>127433060

Oh neat, she actually says this. What a qt waifu then.
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is there a single BB calculator that works for elemental gems?
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>>127430670
>this HORRIBLE stat spread
>not even 50 BLT
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>>127433135
Created as a doll, to mimic love?
So, she's like Rei.
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>>127432891
>Real love implies that she had a choice.
Is that the excuse your parents give to you when they tell you that they don't love you?
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>>127433060
Jokes on her, I sold her clothes to buy rocks and blood
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>>127433259

Good thing there's Maiden in Black. I like her voice a lot.
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>>127433034
All the questions you ask pertaining to the Doll are left unanswered, perhaps deliberately. All that we know for sure is that she was given something resembling life through the power of the dream, that she loves the hunters unconditionally, and that she can manipulate whatever Blood Echoes are, and convert them into power.

She also shares some sort of link to Maria, the person her appearance was based on, as when we kill Maria, the Doll tells us that she feels as though a great weight has been lifted. She also displays some sort of emotion when we give her a hair ornament, but as to why, no one really knows for sure.
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Any low level people who want co-op?
Talking like level 4 low here.
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>>127433372

What do you mean a great weight has been lifted? What do you speculate it means?
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>>127430732
There's only 3 BLT weapons in the game, m8.
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>>127433483
she has some unholy tie to the real Maria. Which you freed her from.
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HELP

I decided to finally give a ARC shitter build a go, and as a true shitter should, I ground myself up to 50 ARC very early on. Fast forward a few encounters and I'm at Rom. I summoned the Mensis scholar to help distract the smaller spiders, then dropped in. I expected a bit of a fight, given the potential damage from the smaller spider versus my relatively frail character so I was a little concerned.

Then I pulled out my Flamesprayer and melted Rom in one burst.

No phase 2

No phase 3

Dead in ten seconds

The Bonfire didn't spawn

What do?
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>looking up what kind of builds people are making lately
>arrive at a reddit thread
>everybody unironically recomending 25~fucking 40 end, even on fucking reiterspallach builds
>think the people saying it will eventually get roasted by replies
>everybody compliments them instead
>open up another thread
>they actually make builds at levels like 150 and 200

I seriously cannot wrap my head around that place. It's like the whole thing is a mockery of reality, like it's a giant act or pretend play that nobody told me about, jesus christ.
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>>127433615
don't try to understand

they advise lv120-150 for the dlc
i stomped it at 80
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>>127433615
That's how it was in the previous games so it has to be the same, right?
That guy said so and he has SO much karma.
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>>127433602
Is this your first time playing? Find Queen Yarhnam or Hunter's mark out of there and drop again.

>>127433615
Cause it's a hugbox in there and none of them get into proper fightclubs to get their shitty builds stomped on.
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>>127433483
Maria's seemingly self-imposed duty was to guard the secret of the Hunter's Nightmare, which was the ransacking and violation of the Fishing Hamlet at the hands of the Old Hunters. Killing Maria on your way to the Hamlet means that she no longer has to worry about guarding the gate.

I have no earthly clue why the Doll would feel anything from this, as they are clearly two distinct entities. The only thing that meaningfully relates them in any capacity would be their appearance.
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>>127433545
>Chikage
>Bloodletter
>Bow
>Riflespear
>Reiter
Cannon may as well be a main weapon as well.
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I want to make a kos parisite build. Is there anything special about it? I assume the scaling is purely ARC right? For a bl ~100 build would I wanted to just dumped vit and arc, with maybe a little end?
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>>127433564
Adding to this, the Maria in the nightmare is one that is a manifestation of regret, sadness, and despair. The Doll seems to be the good side of Maria.
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>>127433734
Nah, hunters mark was my first thought, just concerned that failure to proc the bonfire presence would somehow fuck with my progression.
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>>127433742
>>Riflespear
>>Reiter
Only the guns scale with tinge

>>127433742
>Cannon may as well be a main weapon as well.
main weapon that you can only attack with once or twice?
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>>127433679
My very first character finished the whole game at level 73
I wasn't managing my level on that character, I intended to not have a cap for it.

How do people even get that high without farming for hours with the sole purpose of inflating their level.
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>>127433798
the hunters nightmare is where hunters get trapped, I understood the maria the is the real on. The doll is merely gerhmans dream version of maria he loved so much.
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>>127433742
Riflespear and Reiter both don't benefit very well from Bloodtinge though, at least compared to how they benefit from Phys % gems.
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>>127433034
>he more Insight you have the more crazy you've become.
Its more that you can comprehend the world better. More insight means more knowledge about the universe and what it hides. More insight means its easier to lose your mind and go mad though.
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>>127433353
looks like she suffered a lot
i love girls that suffered
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>>127433891
The same can be said for the other 3 as well. phys % work better on them as well.
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>>127433804
Did Queen Yahrnam not appear? You can just ignore the moonlake lamp since it doesn't do anything meaningful.

>>127433880
Cause bad people are bad at stamina and risk management. The only VIT level you need is to prevent one-shots from the hardest to dodge attack.
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>open up another thread
>people are unironically talking about honor as if the "duel ettiquette" was actually an universaly enforced thing and saying how much they despise those who "break the rules"
>rules

Why can't I stop browsing this? I am getting SO fucking visibly mad but I just can't stop reading this shit. Is this what getting pleasure out of sheer rage feels like?
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>>127433941
>using chicago or bloodletter untricked
Why do you think people farm like koreans here.
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>>127433959
Yeah, after a reload. I forgot that was where she showed up.
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>>127433941
Difference being the Chikage, Bow and Bloodletter all do pure blood damage when transformed, and those modes scale heavily off of Bloodtinge. The Riflespear and the Reiter both get next to nothing from Bloodtinge, compared to Skill.
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>>127433915
Close, but actually: "We fail to realize our own latent potential, until the moment it is lost, and we sense its absence. Ironically, this is the very nature of insight, like the moment one licks one's own blood, only to be startled by its sweetness." - Brain Fluid

>>127433941
Chikage's only good in bloodmode and most people don't bother with bow's blade form when they can just whip out the chikage. Only Bloodletter has a decent trick and untricked modes. That said, you are losing only 15% damage if you don't go full korea on off shape gems.
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>>127433679

I bet that they barely even know how to dodge. They probably must wear something like an HP rune and two +vials runes and basically spam r1 at the boss while healing in his face without dodging anything. They also must probably change sets for each boss fight. Basically bruteforcing and outhealing it.
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>>127431176
Rei is shit but she's still less unlikable than Asuka

and yes the doll is best girl. She's refined and delicate. You have no appreciation for delicacy.
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>>127433974
>people who bow to me when I'm a tenctacle monster with a cauliflower head
I don't fucking get this. Does it look like I'm here to have an "honorable" duel with you? You don't bow to monsters in the game, so don't bow to me when I look just like one. Or do and let me get a free hit in.
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>>127433615
20 END on higher level builds is actually very nice as it frees the slot for 7% phys damage resist rune.
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>>127434032
>>127434101
>>127434153
You know phys% gems affect the tricked forms as well right?

korean gem farming really isn't necessary anyway, the droplets from the singing brain ladys are usually enough except in special elemental circumstances.
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>>127431176
It's the other way around.

Rei is a parody of girls like the doll. She's supposed to be a disgusting, awkward version of them.
But because fat nerds can't grasp that and have no comparative frame of reference, they ended up loving Rei because they saw in her what she was supposed to denigrate.
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>>127433379
where do you want to coop?
I've unlock the game except dlc with bl4
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>>127433974
>invader bows
>kill them
>spam vials
>use everything i can to win vs invader
>instant hate mail

i just dont get it, you are INVADING me, why should i refrain from doing certain stuff
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>>127434153
Am I misunderstanding this or is it implying that we are already full of insight and we just discover we have it bit by bit?
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>>127434206
Asuka is flawless
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>>127433974
>murdering honorable Frontier invaders with a single charged attack of MLGS on 99 ARC while they are bowing
>pulling out 680 AR lighting Saif when they invade next time
There's no better feeling.
Kinda happy i've made my BL148.
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>>127434247
You have over 10% less stamina than base with 1 20% rune. 10 levels is easy to spare when you are 140 but for a 43 or 66 twink it's too much to give up for damage stats.

>>127434324
Yeah, I'm comparing 27% to 31% korean gems.
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>>127434373
MUH HONORABLE COMMUNITY
I dunno, it confuses me as well.
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>>127434224
I always make a case to be as much as a fucking asshole as possible when people bow to me while I'm invading. From aggroing Mensis spiders while blocking the way out of the room to elixirs.

I spend so much time invading and I have yet to receive a single fan mail on this game though, dunno why. I got SO much shit on my hyper archer build on Demon's Souls that one shot literally everything with a 1071 atk compound sticky bow with white arrows and a graverobber's ring to be invisible.
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>>127434351
she's a clone that grew up alone in a closed environment

of course geeks love her more than asuka
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>throw a single durability down gem on Saif
>it breaks as fast if not faster than the tonitrus
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>doing co-op via SRRC
>it picks up a chalice
>and nothing else happens
This is beginning to get annoying.
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>>127434324
You're confused. The original point was that the Riflespear and Reiter counted as Bloodtinge weapons, when they get very little benefit from Bloodtinge. No one's arguing that Phys % up gems don't affect blood damage, but the blood scaling on the gun forms of both the Riflespear and the Reiter is extremely lacking.
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>>127434247
I seriously never touch END no matter what the build and I have yet to feel like I'm missing some.

Stamina is a fucking joke in this game.
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>>127434559

>tfw no repair powder equivalent

fuck sake miyazaki
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>>127434416
No, it's realizing that the Great Ones are trying to adopt us and embracing it to turn into wonderful old butterfly men. It's why people with high insight turn into cauliflowers that can speak with Great Ones and those with low insight has high beasthood and turn into beasts.
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>>127434496
>I got SO much shit on my hyper archer build on Demon's Souls that one shot literally everything with a 1071 atk compound sticky bow with white arrows and a graverobber's ring to be invisible.
I miss red tearstone ring and the equivalents. Hyper archers were fun as fuck in Blighttown
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>>127434618
But they're still bloodtinge weapons, even if the riflespear sucks.
The Reiter is the best weapon in the game though, I just wish they fixed the arcane not scaling on it but they never did
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>>127434690
>even needing hyper archery in blighttown then a normal chaos composite bow with fire arrow will kill almost any host in 1-2 shots
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>>127434534
Neither Rei nor Asuka are likable at all. They're both mean-spirited satires of pre-existing character archetypes.

Nerds somehow manage to overlook that fact and end up seeing those archetypes in them, even though they've been horribly twisted by Anno's sick mind.
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>>127434559
what annoys me the most is that durability is only annoying. It's basically free to repair, so it's never something you have to worry about. All it does is make you shit a brick every time you read "weapon at risk" and change to your shitty secondary
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>>127433974
I'll never understand how anyone could be so trusting that they lock themselves into an animation around another player who'll probably kill them, just for the sake of giving a "Hello" to the person they're about to kill/be killed by. It's utter madness.
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>>127434785
>arcane reiter
No.
Just no.
Arcane builds are already powerful as fuck.
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>>127434421
Asuka is a cunt whose only redeeming factor is that she's flawed
Even if you're into femdom and degradation she's still a shitty waifu.
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>>127434658
Ah, it makes perfect sense now. So I was right when I said more insight means a better understanding of the universe. It also means you are a more evolved human if you consider turning into an alien evolving.
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>having trouble even beating FRC bosses once
>people here just farming them 30+ tries with no issues
How the fuck do you farm gems god damn
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>>127434786
I always just used the dragonslayer bow, it usually killed in one counterhit or two regular ones. It was hilarious seeing a host put up their shield in a "lol i got 100% phys you can't do shit" stance and then knocking them off the edge they didn't realise they were standing next to.
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>>127434889
Arcane reiter was my dream build since the start of the game. it's even in the official guide that it's awesome.
I think they got spooked when they had to nerf the arcane riflespear because it was broken and decided fuck the Reiter as well.
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>>127434815
>mean-spirited satires of pre-existing character archetypes
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>>127434919
You have AIDS
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>>127434950
git gud!!!
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>>127434690
DeS had the most fun builds by far. I love how you could be as much as an asshole as you could possibly want in that game.

Scraping spear, acid cloud, baby's nail, hyper builds and being invisible while free aiming a bow on a hyper build to one shot a guy who couldn't even see you miles away was the shit.

I really wish they end up remastering this.

It was also the only game that got invasions right. You got your stones really early on without needing to go out of your way for them and it was very straightforward. You also had a real incentive to actually invade and coop since ghost form made you lose half your HP. They only made multiplayer worse with each sequel, aside from bloodborne's password system that eliminates the bullshit you have to go through just to play with a friend.
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>>127434950
i have a 50skill build and even then it takes 4 parries per watcher and each hit does 80% of my hp

I DIDN'T EVEN GET A SINGLE GEM THAT SURPASSED HAMLET BRAINS UNTIL FRC CHALICES
should have just stuck with those desu senpai

i don't even LIKE pvp
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I'm trying to get the 20% stamina rune which is in a Lower Loran chalice dungeon, but I keep getting the 'requirements not met' error message. I just made the Lower chalice myself, isn't that all you have to do to use other people's glyphs?
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>>127434950
You need to be more specific. Which boss is giving you trouble?

>>127434975
Great bows were always fun in close range duels.

>>127434919
All waifus are shit. Except Deedlit.
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>>127435005
If arcane reiter projectiles were to scale from ARC as well, that thing would be fucking broken on 99 ARC builds with scaling gems. It would probably shoot for so many damage it would put ay other firearm to shame.
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>>127434369
I was thinking of starter areas, if any new players were here
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>>127435043
exactly.
Rei is a parody of the princess archetype, Asuka is a parody of the action girl archetype. Both are purposefully designed to translate their respective archetype into a more realistic but totally repulsive personality.
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>YFW Living Failures summon the cosmos on you
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>>127434785
By that line of logic, the Kirkhammer is a skill weapon because it has a D scaling for skill. I get what you're going for, but it's easier to define a weapon by it's apparent dominant stat, even if it's not "pure".
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>>127433974
If you wanna act like a faggot, go right ahead.

I personally like 1v1 duels with no vials, because vials fights are boring and take forever.
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>>127435158
deedlit a best
but the doll is a best too
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>>127435206
Living Failures have the coolest attack I have seen in a From game. Summoning outer space to blast you with meteors is so fucking cool.
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>>127435151
do you have the loran root chalice AND have you made a FRC chalice before?
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>>127435232
You ever try to hit someone in PvP with that slow ass slab of rock? I'd say it's a skill weapon.

And untricked it's basically as fast as a dagger anyway
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>>127435191
The fact that papers add flat damage to the bullet means I can hit 200+ damage on my SKL builds with no BLT. I shudder to think what nailing someone with 400+ Fire damage bullets after being nailed with an Oil Urn.
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>>127434975
Slow walking fatroll death machine is still the funniest shit i've ever done in DS1.
Chaos pharis bow alone was so fucking damaging most hosts started to panic after receiving a single shot from max distance.

Shit, i have like 250 hours on him alone.
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>>127435095
>yfw ds3 is going to have a prompt for hosts that says "x wants to invade is this ok y/n"
>n sends you back to your world
>there will never be another welcome to dark souls event for ds3 because they're going to ruin the invasion system somehow
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>>127435440
We will always have DS1 and BB invasions in nightmares, at least.
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>>127435360
>I don't have the lower loran root chalice

why the fuck not

>have you made a FRC chalice before?

yes
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>>127435381
Always bugged the shit out of my that the longsword form of Ludwig's Holy Blade and the Kirkhammer are the same, but only Ludwig's gets any scaling benefit from skill.
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>>127435440
>tfw i got to invade and kill dsp on his ds2 run
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>>127435440

If the test is anything to go by it's gonna be the exact same bullshit as bloodborne, meaning you're gonna face ganksquads all the time. Except this time there won't be nightmare areas because there is no bell maiden there.

The people playing these games nowadays are fucking pussies. Just yesterday on /v/ I saw a guy getting mad as all fuck at a webm of someone bullying a host in bloodborne and even said that what he did was eligible for a "report of griefing" on PSN. These are the fucking babies that call themselves fans of these games nowadays.
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>>127435440
>ds3 is going to have a prompt for hosts that says "x wants to invade is this ok y/n"
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>>127435579
I love how everyone on 4chan conspires against him when he plays a souls game. I can't wait to see what happens with DS3.
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>>127435575
Skilled players use LHB over the hammer anyway.
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>>127435554
you need the root chalice of a dungeons to be able to use glyphs
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For a pure BT build it should be lost chikage, lost bowblade and normal bloodletter, right?
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>>127435575
Longsword of ludwig is longer and has better damage.
Kirkhammer was an abortion of Church Workshop.
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>watching the chalice speedrun guide
>needs 6 blood(2) to make second chalice
>he has 2/6 then picks up another 2, yet the vid jumps straight to 6/6

can someone explain what i'm missing?
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>>127435654
>won't be nightmare areas because there is no bell maiden there.
RIP every gimmick invasion character.
>no more iron golems
>no more patches
>no more tarkus
>no more dickass thief
>no more sl16 RPwalking darkwraith
>no more spell spamming Royal Sorcerer Navlaan
>no more fun for actual invaders
>sl120
>no estus
>final destination
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Plip plop plip plop
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The fun and shenanigans of Defied Hotdog never end.
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All the scrubs here
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>>127435782
Or a sinister chalice
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>>127435834
yes
yes
maybe (if you get triangle and waning bt gems then you might want to just use that one)
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>>127435906
>32 bullets
How? Do you equip all those runes that give you bonus bullets?
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I read yesterday that host gets 60% (30% more than in BB) health advantage over invaders.

Any truth to this?
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THAT KNOW NOT OF THE HAMMER
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>>127435875
Eyes. You're missing eyes.
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>>127435654
Didn't they say at some point that the way it was setup in the Network Tests was specifically to test how bad things got with lots of people in the same world?

I remember that the max was Host + 4 whites + 2 reds, and remarkably the latency and framerate were fine. That said, I don't think they'll keep the limit to invasions. Feel free to rub it in my face if I'm wrong, but I think they'll allow for single hosts to be invaded in the full game.

>>127435740
Shush, you.
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>>127436031
am i retarded? ;_;
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>summoned to someone versus defiled amy on my 99 ARC build
>battle ends in like 30 seconds after i repeatedly slam the goddamn things for thousands of damage with ACB
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>>127436108
he picked up 4 ritual blood (2)s
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>>127436108
You are Scott Bakula.
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>>127436108
He picked up 4 Ritual Blood (2)

>>127436019
If you're talking about Dark Souls 3, then the way it worked was that your max health was raised as a host in ember form, by something like x0.45. Enough to be glaringly and painfully noticeable.
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>>127436219
>>127436250
i know
i missed it the first time though
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Anyone feeling like helping me beat pthumeru ihyll?

Gonna start ringing, pass is 4chan
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>>127436019
>>127436250
I hope this is all a big meme and I'm being had.
If this is true it's the last souls game I'll be buying.

And this is my favourite series of all time...
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>>127436202
I've got a 99 ARC build that I just upgraded the stats for so I can wield HMLS. I can't wait to get that thing properly gemmed.
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>>127436340
I can in a minute.
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>>127436372
Why, it would finally make invasions fair, assuming a fair arena is also offered.
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are the first chalice bolt gems from abhorent beast?

he's the 3rd boss of the 4th chalice in the guide and i'd rather getting some earlier than that (for pve maingame etc.)
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>make new character
>gotta do chalice dungeons now
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>>127436470
There's a waning bolt gem in Yahargul, and they drop from silverbeasts at nightmare frontier. You're better off getting two fire radials and a fire waning and using that against everything instead since bolt radials are pretty much impossible to get outside of the Hamlet and the CRF Dungeons.
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>>127436381
Ok, tell me when you're ringing.

Other confederates invited.

pass is 4chan
final destination pthumeru ihyll
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>>127436462
You're telling me that invaders having 60% less HP will make it fair?
Wow, I should have listened to what everyone else said about you Luci.

Please fuck off
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>>127436380
Top gemmed HMLS with 99 ARC has over 400 pure arcane damage which roughly translates into 1100 damage on beam alone, even more against enemies with weak arc resistance.

It's pretty shit in pvp though, but at the same stats you can wield over 800 AR lighting LHB which will deal arguably more damage than physical version on 50/50 thanks to shit lighting resist of most armors.
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>>127436570
I'm ringing via SRRC right now. Hopefully I can get in - I've been having some on-and-off connection issues the past day or two.
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>>127436372
I wouldn't worry about it too much yet. We have no way of knowing what will be final or not, and PvP aside, it's probably going to be a damn good game.
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How rough is the grind for 40% blunt gems?
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>>127436557
silverbeasts drop waning ones though
does abhorent not drop radials?
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>>127436645
Is that you?
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>>127436740
Gems go up to 40%?
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>>127436740
You can farm either watchers for a very low chance or Undead Giant (cannon) a slightly better chance.
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>>127436789
Yup, I'm in. Looks like we're both out, though.
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>>127436005
Yep. I blood bullet the moment I get into the world too and if the host is playing passive I run off and use the HP regen of both my offhand weapons to get it all back.

>>127436758
He can drop offshapes once in a blue moon but no. Bolt 23.1% radials from CRF Isz hunters are the best bolt radials, followed by the 20.3% ish radials from the elders in the Hamlet.
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>>127436684
I mean, yeah, the PvE will be a great experience.
But I don't play these games as much as I do because I like doing the same thing over and over.
I do it because I love theory crafting awesome and fun builds for PvP, I like finding creative ways to fuck with hosts when I invade.

I'd probably end up finishing my first playthrough and just shelfing it for the rest of ever if PvP was worthless.
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>>127436864
Yeah, I fucked up. He threw his boomerang at me while I was making blood bullets.

Ringing again
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>>127436614
>Wow, I should have listened to what everyone else said about you Luci.
Yes, you should have. He's been a retard since Souls threads were on /v/.
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>>127436889
What was the message?
I bet it was a truly fine note.
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>>127436941
No biggie, I'm ringing again too.
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>>127436997
Either "time for eyes", "wondrous beast" or "you must accept yourself, fatty"
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>>127436470
>>127436889

This is just bad advice though. He should farm triangle elementals and cold abyssal radials or one abyssal radial and one waning from the pthumeru elder.

You can get 26.3% elemental triangles easily by killing a lone watcher after the lamp in layer 2 of fnh9ctui
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>>127437057
>want gems early for PVE
>giving me glyphs
thanks anyway

are 2 cold abyssals and one elemental radial the best for pretty much all weapons?
eg. cane/ axe/ saws/ saif
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>>127437259
Yes
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>>127436856
>>127436815
ok I actually looked at the pastebins a bit and 32.6% seems like the highest for blunt, which is like 15% more damage if you get 3 but I donno if it's worth the hassle, I killed watchers a dozen times or so to get my 27.2% and never saw a blunt gem drop
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>>127437057
Your setup should be a scaling radial, 27.2% bolt and an abhorrent abyssal waning. Gets you the most AR at least, don't know how it ends up with multipliers. Works good on the saif.

>>127437259
One elemental triangle. They're the only ones that have reliable 27.2%
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>>127436889
I made my arcane character just to do the same things you do in your webms. I took it a step further and got the milkweed rune, which was a nightmare, I still gotta go through some chalice dungeons before I can properly emulate my idol
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>>127437259
Bolt weapons, especially saif, are best with abhorrent's abyssal though
So 2 cold abyssals and then abhorrent's waning abyssal or if you're korean enough, 2 abhorrent abyssals (one waning, one off-shape) and a cold abyssal
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>>127436614
Yes, invaders have the advantage of enemies, being prepared for PvP, twinking, etc.
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>>127437329
>a dozen times
Boy, have I got news for you
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What's your weaponfu, /bbg/, and then which weapon is your mistress?

My weaponfu is Kirkhammer but sometimes I just have to use the Reiter.
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>>127436941
Sorry man, my connection to you is absolutely awful. Descendant was literally teleporting all over the place and making it insanely hard to fight properly. I'm gonna have to bow out.
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For some reason it says I can't join pwmf22gu, F/R/C Ihyll

I've platinum the game

Telling me I don't meet the requirements. The fuck?
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>>127437460
i'm assuming abhorrent drops a % gem with also a flat part?

has anyone tried tonitrus with those gems because of the 1.4x arc scaling and 1.7x bolt when transformed?
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>>127437587
Beast Claw and Cannon
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>>127437587
Blades of Mercy and Parasite.
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>>127436614
It's 40% iirc
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>>127437628
Have you made a root dungeon with all three rites?

Nah, you haven't.

>>127437654
Abhorrent's best drop is 22.5% + 33.8 flat.
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>>127437479
If you're playing online, you should be prepared for, you know, online multiplayer things. Common sense there really. If you REALLY don't want to be invaded then play offline.

Mobs don't do jack shit, if the host is a PvE shitter then they're just gonna run and hide at the bonfire smashing any summon sign they can see anyway.
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>>127437365
It does but the obnoxious farming is just plain out not worth it for a miserable +15 AR. I personally just stay with whatever non fucked up cursed abyssal radial I get without even bothering about lost version of the weapons.

Would rather have a bunch of abyssal radials I can switch on the fly instead of spending all that time to end up with like one or two "perfect" rolls.

On my arcane character I always have saif, whirligig saw, the wheel, kos parasite, ludwig's holy blade, threaded cane and kirkhammer all properly gemmed because I didn't bother with this.

Same goes for triangles. Why do the obnoxious elemental farming for 27.2% gems when I could just grab the 26.3% from the lone watcher with his exposed back on fnh9ctui in 1/10th of the time?

Farming arcane gems is a miserable thing if you care about these meaningless improvements that won't change anything. Hence why I always recommend these gems instead of the "perfect" ones.
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Is a kos parasite build not really viable without Korean farming?
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>>127437718
Doesn't matter when getting invaded by a twink. They have gear you can't access yet.

>Mobs don't do jack shit
Tell that to the sharks in the well in the fishing Hamlet.
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>>127437698
>Nah, you haven't.

I have

It still sitting there off to the side
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>>127437587
chicago for basic enemies
bloodletter for pvp/bosses
bowblade for cheesing
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>>127437460
His gems add flat damage which is shit for most weapons.
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>>127437805
I'm >>127437762 and like I said it's only gonna be shit if you make it shit.

You can either set for the 1% weaker gems that you get in 1/10th of the time or you can make your experience in this game miserable for a negligible AR advantage instead of having fun.
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>>127437827
Twinks will always exist.
Fucking everyone else in the ass and ruining any fun in the game for a chance at stopping twinks, but probably won't, is naive and pointless. It's only going to ruin the game, as we're seeing happen as the games continue in the series.

If you're gonna fight an invader with a 2/3v1 and run into a sharkman and die, then you have no right to complain about it.
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NEED GLYPH FOR EASY CHUNK FARMING
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What are some good places for the executioners covenant? I want to mainly co-op but with a fair chance of finding a vileblood. I don't really want to be swimming in invasions.
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>>127437460
>offshape abyssals
Yeah, naw
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>>127437827
>tell that to the one mob that is actually harmful unlike pretty much anything else

The exception proves the rule, retard.

>doesn't matter when getting invaded by a twink

Except for the fact that by making things this way they are actually ENFORCING twinking. Just like in bloodborne, where normal invasions never happen because the invader is always at a massive disadvantage and always put against a ganksquad.
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>>127437762
I used to do the same honestly, close enough is good enough. I farm 5pwuj now just because it's so easy with ayysplosion. I tend to have okay luck when it comes to farming, I've done 6 finalised arcane characters to date and haven't had any issues getting abyssal bolt wanings from abhorrent or 27.2% elements from 5pwuj. I really love spelunking with arcane characters just because you shit on everything. Even more fun when /bbg/ tags along.

>>127437440
Gosh anon I'm blushing. Here's my Micolash if you want it.
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>>127437827
Literally the only example you've got though. Your next best option is to bodyblock a doorway so the host is between you and mobs, which is reliable in only a handful of areas.
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>>127438076
this

any easy chalice with two easy bosses?
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>>127437460
what about cane /saws and axe?

do i want a flat% triangle for my 3rd gem?
do arc gems come in triangles like fire ones?
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>>127437874

Indeed. The only weapon people recomend this one for is LHB but I tested it out against a cold abyssal radial with +15 bolt and I found out the abyssal radial is just better by a small margin, but better still. This gem is not the best one for anything.
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>>127438234
>>127438076
If you're up to CRF Isz go huy83p9r.
>turn right, pull lever
>go back, fight boss
tiny dungeon, brainsucker as boss
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>>127423471
How do we feel about this?
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>invaded by a wheeldash twink in frontier while doing a new character
>he kills me with a single dash
>mfw switching to my BL78 arcane build with 620 AR Saif and offshapes in kos parasite and murdering faggot at least 4 times by hosting there in ng+ frontier
Twink busting is fun.
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>>127438317
voting-based awards are just popularity contests. Of course a popular western triple A title would win over a niche japanese game in a western poll.
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>>127438165
>Parasite
>flat arc
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>>127437805
>Korean

The Parasite farm is pretty mild. Elder drops Abyssals pretty consistently, made quicker by savescumming. He's also easy as fucking hell for arcane builds because blacksky eye staggers him. One Abyssal, one 23% Arcane radial from bone ash hunters, and one 27% Arcane triangle from isz Watchers. Not very time consuming. Hardly korean
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>>127438317
Fuck off to /v/.
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>>127438317
excellent game, if only the other two were on the same level. Though I can understand CDPR took all the lessons learned to make W3 as good as it was.
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>>127438379
YER
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>>127438419
No milkweed rune anon, fistycuffs only
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>>127438263
>cold abyssal radial

I mean cold abyssal waning
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>>127438419
If you're not using the rune, flat arc is better for arcane fists
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MAJESTIC
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>>127438317
was that game that good?
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>>127438436
>>127437973
cool cause I mean, I'll pvp on a skill build with 25% gems because 2% can't really make that much of a difference. I wanted to be sure that parasite builds would be fine without top tier gems before I committed to a build of it.
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>>127438479
WHEELS
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I wish I could have as much VIT and BLT as cainhurt hunter.

what a dream
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>>127438650
who would win crowsteel or every boss in the game in the same room as him
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>>127438393<