It's my second thread edition
>Corrin Chooses to Smash!
>Fates NA Website ("Full site coming soon")
>new thread moments after I just fucking made one
I'm gonna have an aneurysm.
>PoR run at AGDQ is giving out a FEif Bundle
>gotta wait til midnight
>gotta pay $20
>gotta hope my name gets chosen in a sea of hundreds
Someone dissuade me from donating cause the temptation is fucking real.
i won't post it again until tomorrow, dw
You do realize it just makes ad posters, right?
And is run by Jewyama's aunt?
Prevent Cancer does jack shit to actually further research. All donating does is line Jewyama's pockets.
SGDQ's different since Doctors without Borders actually does something.
Okay maybe that last part is bull, but the fact still stands that PCF is a laughable charity & organization.
>"worried about the future direction of the franchise"
>"Favorite game: Awakening"
What the fuck am I doing wrong in fates chapter 5? Everyone gets mobbed as soon as they get into range. Club girl and ninja keep getting 1-2 shot by everything. Can't get kamui into range to do anything without getting killed by the wyrmslayers.
I know I'm bad but fuck I must be doing something horribly wrong
I'm on normal classic
I was just being retarded and kept trying to get to Ryouma because the boss kept killing him but it turns out that didn't matter at all. I beat it now
>all these shit games
>all these games no one has ever heard of
>only one fire emblem
>only one final fantasy
at least the reverse-boss order lttp should be pretty cool
to be fair, Fire Emblem speedruns aren't too interesting to most people
people generally aren't interested in super fast menuing
the RD run last year was poorly received
I want to
takeElise to a carnival and eat cotton candy with her.
best girl's already in the thread: >>127322310
I want to
painther nailsand brushher hairthen pat her head and tell her she's the cutest imouto ever.
The best when it comes to maingame
What's big, black and made Elise bleed after it was inside her?
Siegfried. Serves that silly brother stealing cinnamon roll right.
Shut the fuck up Cockura you're next
>FE threads on /v/ have fully turned into censorship fearmongering
how is it possible for thread quality to be so consistently poor in so many different ways
>no sidestreams allowed
>no swearing on camera
>always stop talking when donations are being read out
>50 people rereading donation messages over and over to ensure no innuendos slip through and the only ones that make it through are KICK CANCERS BUTT SAVE DA ANIMALS HOYP HOYP HOYP CMON EVERYONE HOYP GREETINGS FROM GERMANY
>tiny build logo bigger than the game window
>no fun allowed on the couch
>serious time repeatedly interrupted for donations
Just gonna watch the PoR run and then bow out desu
Am I the only one who wished Sacred Stones wasn't so fucking easy? Even if you play on hard and don't abuse farming methods like the Tower of Valni, it's still a cakewalk. I want to play and enjoy the game again but I know I can't just because of how stupidly easy it is.
Name ONE good thing about this character.
Hard mode: nothing gameplay related.
>SAVE DA ANIMALS
Why is that even a thing? Aren't there better incentives to donate towards than something that literally doesn't matter?
What do you mean by "substitute"? And I never use Seth or Myrrh anyway.
man, there are like three games i'm interested in this time around
a substitute run is where you use suboptimal characters
like instead of Joshua you use Marisa, Forde instead of the other cavs, Moulder instead of Natasha or L'arachel, Vanessa instead of Tana
Rhetorical question. Sort of.
But yeah, it would have been great if the difficulty wasn't baby mode.
>the one man genocide
>sicker than your average demon king killer
But yeah, Seth can basically solo the entire game.
Her character had potential, really.
They just had to make her loyalty to Daein less around BLOOD PACTS SON, it'd make her seem like less of an idiot.
Also she got completely robbed of any relevance by the end (aside from being Yune's fucktoy) which really hurt her too, since you literally never get to see how she grew over the course of the game.
All in all, I think she was a decent character in theory that just got fucked over by some shitty plot devices and writing.
Plus she's pretty hot and I'd fuck her
Yeah, I prefer Laura too and raise her every run regardless because
I think she's a total cutiepie.
But Micaiah is pretty much guaranteed to be used, so most people I see just leave it at her and bench Laura. Which is a bit of a bummer since Laura has a lot of potential. She's the best light magic user in the game if you ask me. She consistently comes out better than Rhys and Mickey whenever I use her.
>Her character had potential, really
The same can be said about RD's plot in its entirety. It's like they had some good ideas and wanted to try something different and unique, but somewhere along the way they just shat the bed.
>that entire fucking post
FIGHT ME FAGGOT
NO VULNERARIES, SLIM SWORDS ONLY, FINAL DESTINATION
he's pretty absurd too yeah
but not on the level of Seth and Myrrh
i disagree, L'Arachel can become godlike when you put the time in and the value of movement can't be understated
plus Moulder has good growths in the wrong places for his role
Vanessa's main advantage is join time, Tana's stats become far better
FE8 really just has a lot of great units in terms of both personality and usefulness (the latter partially due to the Tower, but still). I can't think of anyone I really dislike.
It's true though. He's just a good unit, like a lot of them in SS.
Gerik is better.
I agree with >>127331126 personally. Micaiah is a decent character and would be fine if they didn't handle her in the retarded way they did.
Just tone down her pointless Plot Device powers and actually give her a role in the story for the endgame and she'd be fine. I can see why some people bitch about her though, but I never had a problem with her.
I LOVE her design though (my favourite design of absolutely any female in FE personally).
Anyone can be good when you put time in. Problem is she joins late and has the issue where Troubadours have only 6 movement before promotion, which was one of the weirdest nerfs I've seen. Plus she joins late at around level 3.
L'Arachel also joins late and underlevelled, and getting her up to a decent level to promote takes a long time. She also lacks Slayer, which is a pretty big deal in SS. Not to mention the fact that she has a whopping 1 (ONE) Mov advantage on the horseless healers.
Her growths are nice and all, but she's definitely suboptimal.
>L'Arachel can become godlike when you put the time in
And the time isn't worth putting in when she's going to be Staffing and Moulder/Saleh already do that better, do you know what optimal means
>Tana's stats become far better
Tana's bases are very mediocre for when you get her and Vanessa has longer to be trained (especially since early FE8 enemies are very shitty), she can easily be at or nearing 10/1 or so by the time you even get Tana
People hate her because she looks like a mary sue what with all those plot device powers. But in retrospect she honestly isn't all THAT bad as a character.
Robin and Kamui are far worse when it comes to mary sue-ness and make Micaiah look incredibly modest by comparison.
>Just tone down her pointless Plot Device powers
after Part 1 when they pretty much forgot they existed.
Troubadours only have 6 Move in SS, anon.
Yeah, that's what I mean, and I do understand people getting annoyed by them (not necessarily the Mary Sue accusations though).
And I definitely agree that Robin and Kamui are much worse and pretty dangerously close to Mary Sue territory (Robin especially). Even if FE12's MU got his fair share of cocksucking I kind of miss when the Avatar didn't have to be a special snowflake.
Yeah they tone them down after Part 1 but Part 1 is marred by them mostly (that and the Begnion Occupation Force being idiots).
They were, but I prefer her tier 3 outfit
Bare legs and sandals are so fucking sexy to me
I thought Awakening was pretty uninteresting, with all the win conditions being the same. Also pair-up was fucking trash.
Is Fates worth buying?
Also, what else are you guys playing nowadays? Any romhacks or other interesting stuff released in the years between awakening and fates?
Fates is pretty awesome
it's moving in the right direction and is way better than Awakening
as far as things to play nowadays, there's the whole trend of randomizers for the GBA games
those are pretty fun for sure
Do I have to remind you that today is Vanilla Sunday? And you should be posting Vanilla?
S H O W M E W H A T Y O U G O T!
>>127306086 Again, I'm sorry
Not as bad as Robin but still pretty bad IMO.
He has a super special plot device sword, super special powers only he can use, and no matter what happens or what he does always comes as morally pure and in the right. People also love sucking his dick, and there's like 3 characters at most who aren't constantly on their knees in front of him, at least not initially (Flora, Takumi, to an extent Marx at least in Hoshido).
And at least Robin was competent, Kamui's just an idiot.
There are two "stances" now that Pair Up uses. An offensive one that allows extra attacks, and a defensive one that allows your units to block eachother. You have to choose one or the other, and I believe the stat bonuses were nerfed slightly.
The bonuses it gives are much smaller, and there are two different "versions". Kinda hard to explain.
I really wish Serenes would update their fucking pages already, we know a lot more than this.
There are two different stances for Pair-Up now: Attack and Guard. Attack lets you have extra attacks from both units, but leaves you open to extra attacks from enemies. Guard will let your units block attacks, but at the cost of not being able to attack with both units.
It's "better" because he's incompetent as fuck, unlike Robin.
Of course, I'd say that the fact that everyone sucks his dick despite that fact makes him worse. Robin also can't turn into a goddamn dragon.
Ah, I see what you mean.
>I'd say that the fact that everyone sucks his dick despite that fact makes him worse
Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Plus the dragon stuff is a little nuts too.
This nigga gets it.
I guess it's not really, in fact reading that again the fact that everyone sucks his dick despite the fact that he's an idiot might make it worse.
>"brother" yells at you to get the fuck out back to mordor so he can kill you
>yukimura says "ah, w-wait, she foresaw this...look at the statue!"
>magic gold sword prophesized to save the wolrd flies over to kamui's open hand, who is the only one to have the right mixture of fightclub blood to transform into a dragon
This is incredibly Mary Sue no matter which way you flip turn it.
On the other hand, it's kind of nice to see him suffering and being forced through tragedy unlike Mr. Perfect bland ass tactician.
>terribe unit in If
>sets her mother up with Chrom
>terrible Kamui support
>hordes of obnoxious fans
>should have been the lesbian option
>yet another recycled unit, literally a genderswapped Inigo
>all this FE8 discussion
Speaking of easy games, take a look at pic related. Herbs are just as bad too, they restore 10HP and come with 10 uses.
>having shit like this when healers and micaiah exist
I hope this bombs and the treehouse never localizes another fire emblem game again
I could take a picture of my FE10 disc to prove you wrong. From what I remember the game wasn't all that challenging, because none of your units mattered.
I'm saying no one should have THAT much healing.
>no actual S Support with women
>only lesbo support is with a pigugly NotTharja
What >>127334494 said.
Also, not enough art.
Fuck off with your epic maymays and let me post some Maribelle in peace
Alright, go ahead write me an essay on how FE10 is hard. Go on, I'm listening. I will admit it can be challenging during certain missions, but then again I see "challenging" and "hard" as two different things.
IT JUST NOT FUCKING FAIR
I THOUGHT NINTENDO CARED ABOUT US GAMERS
I won't do best to worst for every class, but I'll make you a tier list. I'll go by promoted classes. I can do a base class list if necessary.
Trueblade, Holy Lancer, Elite Ninja, Singer, Witch, General
Exorcist, Holy Bowman, Nine-tailed Fox, Dread Fighter, Berserker, Wyvern Lord, Managarmr, Dark Falcon, Vanguard, Lodestar, Maid/Butler, Ballistician
White Blood, Dark Blood, Weapon Master, Blacksmith, Basara, Mountain Priest, Falcon Warrior, Puppeteer, Great Merchant, Paladin, Great Knight, Brave Hero, Adventurer, Revenant Knight, Sorcerer, Strategist, Great Lord
Shura, War Priestess, Golden-Kite Warrior, Bow Knight, Dark Knight
I probably forgot some shit. Post opinions.
Daily reminder NoA will remove romancing your siblings
Daily reminder NoA will censor the bathing suits
Daily reminder NoA will remove skinship because it too creepy
Daily reminder that NoA will not include dual audio
That's not how it works, retard. Sothe has reached his adult phase and is fully grown. If both of them are "adult" then those extra years don't mean shit, even if you're immortal or something. It's pretty much the same reason why Nowi is a loli. Yes, she's been living for a long time but she doesn't have the body of an adult.
I'd fucking ravage Nowi, but please get your facts straight you shitposting moron.
>that sprite gif of tharja hypnotising femrobin into eating her out
>the leglocking happens
Daily reminder that fates is garbage tier for not following awakenings legendary map design
Hallmarks of shitty map design:
1. Multiple optional objectives which are time sensitive
2. Narrow corridors that can be used as choke points
3. Throne seizes .. ugh just play fe6 grandpa
4.Multiple deployment points for units
5. Multiple routes through to same objective
6. Ambush reinforcements that announce themselves in grand fashion and deliver hot wyvern dick to your squishies
Fucking IS and you modders need to fucking learn. GO STUDY AWAKENING AND DONT MAKE SHIT TILL YOU'VE BEATEN IT ON EASY-CASUAL
The reasoning behind it was that Holy Lancers, while having lower HP, can often take one or two more hits, while also usually able to do enough damage to kill the enemy. Plus negative crit resistance is a bitch. What are your thoughts?
>being this bootyblasted
Trip back on, cuck.
>filthy lance lovers
now THIS is shitposting
if you can plan around it they aren't that bad. The alternate is reinforcements that can easily be killed the second they pop out of their fort for easy EXP.
awakening's shit tier design is just bad at handling STR
Berzerkers aren't really all that fragile themselves (though they obviously are a bit more fragile than Holy Lancers). Their extra crit combined with their huge damage, and the fact that they actually have Skill in Fates is a pretty even tradeoff.
>if you can plan around it they aren't that bad
But you usually can't because you don't know anything other than the rough time and maybe direction of their arrival. And even that isn't guranteed, unannounced reinforcments are a thing. It's fucking guess work and most of the time just makes you replay the chapter until you know what kind of enemies spawn when and where.
This seems too problematic...going to have to change that. :)
Fair enough. Berserker will be god tier in future versions.
Holy Bowmen are the new "point this at anything you want to evaporate" class. They also have WTA against hidden weapons, which are all over every route and possibly the most annoying weapon type in the game.
>Arent they mostly shit tier across fe games?
Yeah, but the class was really buffed in Fates. Bows deal huge damage in this game, and other ranged options like Javelins and Hand Axes aren't nearly as useful as they once were.
Even Magic is worse in Fates than it is in Awakening.
i want base conversations back and for the skill system to be reworked so that not all skills are tied to level. Skill books need to come back. Forging needs to be fixed because its shit in FE14. Nohr tier map design with Seizing being changed back to Lord-only is fine. Physical/Magic Ballistas are good, keep them.
i'd like a non self-insert lord but that's unlikely at this point.
fred/cordy is a terrible support and i want you to understand why I feel every writer involved with awakening should never be allowed near a videogame again
Speaking of Radiant Dawn, I'm playing a rebalancing patch that drastically overhauls the gameplay and character balance. For example, Micaiah is now an effective combat unit, Leonardo and Meg are actually useful instead of being complete garbage, and Volug can gain experience and level normally instead of stealing all of the experience. It's only been released through part I so far, but I like it a lot.
Thanks for the Sky-milf smut kind anon!
>whole browser grinds to a halt and nearly crashes
What the fuck its as if it wants me to stay the fuck away
>tfw Yuugiri is basically titania but with more murder
gonna bone her up
Would you play a game about Marth's descendants that preceded Chrom and Lucina?
Also, does Marth even have a last name?
>>not having your Lord lead the charge and take the throne alongside his team
Anon, there's more to being a master and commander than just standing in the front being a meat shield. Sometimes you're better served taking out strategic objectives on the sides, or guarding the flank, or even taking up the vanguard to protect your weaker units.
Strategy is the key to victory.
>Hey /vg/, make my pairings for awakening lunatic.
Gave me my best units hands down, especially Dread Fighter Morgan and Swordmaster Inigo with the ranged sword that drops from Yen'fay. Broken ass shit.
Ryoma x Kagerou
Nishiki x Hinoka
Asama x Oboro (this is actually VERY good)
Saizou x Sakura
Silas x Mozume
Takumi is best with Hana, but that doesn't matter since you're going with him yourself.
Those are the kids worth caring about. I can give you some pairings for the meh ones if you really want.
>Also, does Marth even have a last name?
I've heard Lowell, but I think that's just in the anime.
This. If you're waifu is not one of the holy trinity of well-written waifus, you have shit taste. I won't even entertain any arguments otherwise because it's a waste of everyone's time.
You mean the one that has probably the least amount of representation in Smash out of the entire franchise?
I'm calling bullshit. It's already confirmed that his favorite game is Awakening anyway.
Interviewer: Please tell us about how you first encountered Fire Emblem.
Sakurai: I think that Shadow Dragon and the Blade of Light (henceforth referred to as Shadow Dragon (NES)) was released before I’d spent a year at HAL Labs, and I was really drawn to the spritework and animation. That feeling of satisfaction when a pirate cleanly hits with his axe (laughs).
Interviewer: (laughs) You played the first one, but did you play future entries in the series?
Sakurai: Generally speaking, as soon as they were released, I bought and played them. There were some where the release window overlapped with a particularly busy period and I gave up halfway through, but I’ve touched upon every entry in the series, and I’ve beaten most of them.
Interviewer: Among those, which titles stick out the most in your mind?
Sakurai: I think it has to be Genealogy of the Holy War
I'm pretty sure he said in another interview that he believes most FE games individually excel in some aspects but fall flat in others, and he thought Awakening was the one that did the most things "right" out of all of them.
i heard he originally wanted to do Leif as a Marth clone in Melee but when he went to IS to ask permission they showed him development screens and stuff of FE6 and tought that Roy would be a better fit
Here's all the well written waifus and husbandos in fire emblem
>le no waifus are well-written meme
>this means my waifu is on the same level as all the rest!
Sorry, Charlie. You're wrong.
>play the fan translation
>all the waifus are still poorly-written and only these three are great
>play the localization
>all the waifus are either equally great or equally shit but at least you dont have to deal with this shitter anymore
Hehehehe, what a hard decision.........................................
Are you guys excited for Marcia Emblem at AGDQ?
If it means my waifu finally getting more artwork, sure.
Not really, it'll probably be boring as shit. I mean I'll watch it anyway like a lot of AGDQ, but I'm not so sure that the PoR run will be very entertaining.
Marcia is pretty great, though.
>How do you get walhart?
Do his paralogue and beat him with Chrom, he'll join up. Then you can enjoy the best FeMU support.
>Localization team changes things
>FUCK YOU TREEHOUSE! LEAVE MY GAME THE WAY IT'S MEANT TO BE
>Localization keeps things as close as possible
>FUCK YOU TREEHOUSE, YOU COULD HAVE FIXED THESE CHARACTERS
Fates was just so shit and underwhelming compared to what we were originally promised by ISIS that some people are even willing to accept a complete script rewrite
The localization is such a wild ride on all accounts. "Dont censor my titties but make my waifu's mamui's support better"
The problem is that Walhart's paralogue opens up only at the endgame just like all the other Spotpass characters. You'll spend almost the entire game without Morgan.
That said it really is the best FeMU support.
I'm more sick of seeing the plebs argue amongst themselves about whose poorly-written waifu is the least poorly-written to be honest. Like I said before, if you're not waifuing one of the three posted here, >>127340642
you're wasting your time.
They change the things nobody wanted changed and keep the things people want changed.
I don't think anybody would have complained about Rinka getting real abs, for example.
i like me some pussy ateing, but thargabage and yuri is just no
>trying to think of who I would pair with who in an "OTP" run like I did in Awakening
>Marx x Nyx
>Asama x Effie
>Joker x Mozume
>Leon x Sakura
>Benoit x Oboro
>Lazwald x Aqua
>Femui x Flora
>maybe Ryouma x Kagerou
>and that's all I got
Why the fuck does there have to be so many pairings
Not even counting the kids
It's the new age. Years from now, people will try to control you with fictional character love. IS will wave the flag of Lucina, Azura and other future FE girls. Rebels will arise trying to reject main girls, but they also only wish to control you.
I'm okay with holding out for quality. Besides, Chrom!Inigo, Lucina and FeMU were broken enough to carry until Morgan could fully come online. Great unit for the harder DLC modes too.
I feel like a lot of people miss out by not having FeMU romance Walhart, he is hands down her best support and really the only match in the game that gives her a challenge. Also that STR mod
>all those Japanese names
>still uses Effie
It's interesting that despite how inconsistent everyone here is with using localized/Japanese names, Effie is the one name that I think literally everyone uses.
Question. Is Rinkah good?
I reeeeeeeeeally want her to be good, since she's my favorite character in Fates so far
Still gonna use the fuck outta her regardless of what anyone says, she's my waifu
>ISIS never made the DLC about an alternate future where the war between Nohr and Hoshido had continued into the future and was being carried on by the Nohr and Hoshido child units
Why is IS so shit at making proper use of it's resources?
She's bad in both Hoshido and IK, but she's at least usable in Hoshido because it's fucking Hoshido.
Well, she's usable in IK too, but you'll have a VERY rough time on higher difficulties.
I'm not sure that there's enough room for Revenant Knight, and I don't think they wanted to put "Rev. Knight" or something since it's not immediately obvious what that is (unlike Peg Knight in the GBA games).
Revenant Knight, Camilla's base class.
Lewd! Lewd! Canon! Canon!
Her Strength would be less of an issue if her HP was better, then she could serve as a solid tank like they probably intended. Her Defense is actually great and her Speed is pretty good.
Her having E-rank Axes sucks ass too, she even keeps her bases and Axe Rank in IK despite her later join time (where she will definitely have a hard time contributing with a damn Bronze Club).
Because it writes itself.
It'd basically be a conflict between a war torn Nohr and Hoshido that have exhausted their resources to the point that both nations are on the brink of collapse and the kids are still fighting because "Those fuckers are the reason why our country is shit"
1 DLC from the Hoshido Kids side.
1 DLC from the Nohr kids side.
Last DLC of Touma busting out of the chasm to exterminate everything
What's not okay about it? You can go ahead and use shitty units on casual playthroughs all you like. Stat boosters exist.
But when you make fucking everyone OP, that makes things too easy and sucks the fun out of everything.
No one is asking for characters to be OP, they're asking for them to be usable. As in, they might not be the best, but you can make them work without feeding them 50 kills and every single stat booster you can afford.
yeah IK Odin is really overpowered
fuck of IS balance team. There's no defending shit tier units like half of the IK cast. It wasn't okay when units like Fiona were shit and it isn't okay now either.
They need to be at LEAST usable. You can't seriously think that shit like the IK bench brigade or a lot of IK units in general is okay, do you?
Caps are never an issue for in-game. It's generally growths and bases (though Rinka's bases aren't completely terrible for Hoshido). Rinka also has that E-rank issue.
>Neo Fire Emblem fans.
All characters should have +50% growths in everything.
All characters should have base stats of 20 or higher.
The game should be beatable by making enemies die attacking you.
I actually read someone here state that the fact that enemies avoid attacking units they can't hit or damage was bad design.
I also read here that reinforcements (That are always announced to you mind you) should wait a turn before attacking because it is apparently 'Unfair'.
This is what the new fans of FE want.
>considered one of the best units in both routes she's in
feels good man
I was obviously referring to Awakening when I said OP, you dolt.
But they are fucking usable. Just because there's a huge gap between Odin and Marx doesn't mean you can't not beat the game with Odin. Look up the fucking definition of usable.
Aight, was already planning on only getting Birthright, so savescumming it is
Though my friend told me that on...I think he said Lunatic, level-ups are preset at the start of the chapter. Is this true?
You try beating the game with IK Odin. He requires so much support and help that he may as well not exist. Are you going to support feeding 50 billion kills to Sophia or Wendy too and say they're okay like that?
Announced reinforcements attacking you the turn they spawn would be acceptable if they told you their stats. As it is, even though you know some reinforcements are spawning, you don't know what classes, stats, weapons, or quantities they'll have. "There's going to be an enemy" isn't a ton of information, senpai.
>was already planning on only getting Birthright
>I think he said Lunatic, level-ups are preset at the start of the chapter. Is this true?
They're preset even it you restart the chapter on Lunatic.
>only getting Birthright
Why would you savescum on the easiest route?
I never said that my decisions were wise, only that they're MY decisions. I am not very wise.
Also, I only hate Revelations because it's basically removing the whole tension of having to make a decision and choose a side.
You get to have your cake and eat it too.
Plus, it basically makes the other two stories irrelevant by all but stating "this is the real story"
>oh no, I have to actually THINK about strategic ways to make this shit unit good? fuck THINKING I'm an Awakeningbabby, I don't THINK in my SRPGs
Guess what? This was one of the things that always made Fire Emblem what it was. You always had great units that didn't take much effort to make good and then awful units that you had to work to the bone to take to the end of the game. It's even in the fucking lyrics to the Latin theme in Brawl.
That list is about the class itself, not the units that use them.
Otherwise Holy Lancer and General wouldn't be in God Tier since the only real rep for Lancer is Oboro (who is good but not amazing) and the only especially good General is Effie (and she shouldn't even be in that class unless she gets Speed screwed).
There is no thinking involved at all. All you do is let things get to low HP, then let your bad unit get the chip kill. What's the fucking point? I don't mind units being worse than others. It's going to happen regardless. But to give them not a single redeeming factor is ridiculous. Odin doesn't even have the fun of an Est where you watch them get huge level ups and grow like crazy. He's just plain shit.
the difference is that Est has good growths so training her is "worth it"
IK odin dies if he's sneezed on and is still worth than Leo if trained through hell. Its not even remotely worth it and nearly impossible to pull off
Its rewarding to use RD Rolf because he's the best Marksman by endgame and its actually reasonable to train him. Fiona starts shit, stays shit, and needs more effort than other horse units.
I like having to make strategic choices and the choice of whether or not to use IK odin isn't a choice at all because he's so fucking bad. I don't need everyone to be good, but there should be a reason to use most units.
You are retarded if you think IK balance is good FE balance.
>Its rewarding to use RD Rolf because he's the best Marksman by endgame
He might be BARELY better than Shinon if you train him up, but you probably could have gone with a better example there since it's not really worth it at all.
>I use Nino over Pent because she is statistically better at 20/20
How quickly can you get Sakura to war priest without early promotion, 20/1 average Sakura is ridiculous