- Cloud Strife from Final Fantasy VII is now available as a downloadable fighter.
- Corrin from Fire Emblem Fates is set to arrive as a downloadable fighter sometime in February.
- Bayonetta is set to arrive as a downloadable fighter sometime in February.
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Such big words for a man with a shortsword. Gotta make it up somehow, eh manlet.
Must've been one boring ass match, Mr. Who. Or not true, as is probably the case. Fought most of the better players here, and that doesn't happen. Much better now even with months of online rust.
We always fight and you're always sleepy. Think the anytime was meant for the times you'll lose.
>play Xenoblade Chronicles
>music is amazing
>game is great
>love all the characters
>mfw sudden genuine urge to main Shulk
just played smash bros 4 at my friend's house and it was pretty dope.
I used to play marth back in melee. Is he any good? Any alternative characters with a counter-attack I should look into?
if you aren't who i think you are this image still applies
This. You losers underestimate the precious r34 God before you. It's okay, Chris is secretely a worshipper too. I'll return and shove my cannon up your heretic asses.
Marth is mediocre at best. He has fallen from grace since his Melee and Brawl days with a gimped sword range and end-lag on his air attacks. He can be mained but not without a lot of effort.
A stronger alternative is Ike who has been buffed like crazy and yet still hits like a truck. Cloud doesn't have a counter but is more like the previous versions of Marth than Marth himself is in 4. No counter but has the neutral, range and general feel.
I would never truly leave Bowser and he will always be a main and be my favourite character but I
am not really feeling it recentlynot even Mac is cutting it over small intervals. My performance hasn't gone down but its just not the same. The whole Xenoblade series has gotten me riled up to give him a proper shot.
This boss music just makes me want to swing the Monado around in Smash!
Sure, if you don't mind murdering me through most of it.
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My friend said the same thing about cloud.
Something about a character with a counter is so much fun for me which is why I stick to them.
I'm reading about shulk right now because of the vision move.
I never enjoyed Ike. I guess I have to choose between fun and winning.
Wil have to hit FF 2v2 to get some half semblance of timing down.
I'm going to be playing that during my sets tomorrow. Been listening to it the last 30 and its still just as amazing!
Home Town is still my favourite though.
Are you fucking kidding me right now? Fuck Cloud.
Fuck him right in his OP as shit anime hair. Holy fuck balls. His charge attack doesn't fucking stop when you hit him as he's charging. Seriously? It doesn't go away until he uses it. Horse. Shit. He's fucking fast as shit too and the range on that sword is ludicrous. It's like they gave fucking Captain Falcon the hammer of DeDeDe and said, "Ayyy lmao swing away champ."
I have so much salt right now my blood pressure is higher than a Japanese businessman's but FUCK.
Fuck him so hard. Everybody is using this Super Saiyan cunt too! And it's not like Ryu who's good but takes skill to use! It's just "Lol cut, roll, roll, power attack, game."
I wish he was real so I could fuck a heroin addict using dirty needles to get AIDs and then sodomize Cloud to give it to him.
If you want to try someone who is super reactive and different, you could try Little Mac.
He isn't a sword user and has mediocre range, but he has a counter and has a god-tier ground game if used right. Issue is he falls apart completely as he fights high tiers and is almost unuseable against Sheik and ZSS. Granted the last part applies to most but Shiek vs Mac is probably 9:1, not even the heavies have it that bad. 10/10 on the fun scale though.
> Chris couldn't fight because he was too sleepy
>YFW Cloud beats Villager
All of his aerials have priority and fuck his slingshot.
Zero Suit Samus. Sheik, Rosalina and ZSS are among the most powerful characters in the game, the Queens of Smash essentially.
In high level play she is disgustingly strong and renders Mac almost unplayable. Between her and the others, most of the cast is rendered null.
ZSS is Zero Suit Samus
And to be honest, if you want to play Marth, play Marth. If you learn what you're doing and make smart choices you'll do just fine with him, and he's very good for teaching fundamentals and basics. Unless you're aiming to become some super pro who plays in all of the big tournaments, it's really not worth prioritizing playing a character that is high tier if you don't want to play them. Marth isn't even that bad, just nowhere near his glory days.
Good games Dorf, fun was had but I need food now.
>tfw trying to mash out of Ryu's uptilts as the brawler
No problem my friend
Oh yeah, and if you decide to get more into the game, play with us or another online community. It's easier and more fun to improve while getting feedback.
Sorry I can't teach you Ganondorf because all I honestly do is just press buttons and magically win somehow. Ask Panfreeto or Ty for lessons.
Trying mashing nair and DIing better.
>having fun in double sets
>start playing singles
>new guy comes along
>ask for singles
>win two and then two others come along
>ask opponent if he wanted to dubs with us
>"no way, I hate dubs"
>Losing to Villager
Sadly I don't have Villy Pepe
Good matches. I was thoroughly trashed but I feel like I learned a lot from playing a competent Ike, he seems to be a lot better since the last time I played this game.
Sorry about the lag in that final match, I have no idea what happened.
Dang, I don't know what happened there. Our connection was really damn good. Oh well, I had to get to bed eventually.
GG's Spahr, really nice Falcon you have going for you. You should really join the 3DS tourney coming up http://challonge.com/741nsxt2.
>FG players who do sperglord shit on the stage when they take a stock
I'm mad, k*ll yourself
I spent like 30 minutes getting used to the unforgiving angling of PK Thunder 2, a few times while offstage I even curved it around Randall and still connected to the ledge
Small steps, but I'll get there
Can we get rakyy banned already?
He's not even playing smash anymore (>muh lag).
Yet still shitposts here every hours and blogs and whines and circlejerks
Just look at this garbage
>Google smash bros Pepe
>a lot of your own pepes come up in images
any good greninja players here?
in your opinion, who is greninjas worst matchups?
best secondary for a greninja main
In all honesty he kind of beat my ass most rounds but when I reversed the situation it was a mildly entertaining spectacle
It can depend on the wireless connection and its firewall. I mainly use the 3DS and rarely have any connection issues. If I do, its generally my internet as my Wii U is also effected if my 3DS is having trouble.
I wouldn't call myself good but Greninja loses to all the top tiers really hard and a bunch of high/mid tiers too Sheik, Pikachu, and Fox are a nightmare. Rosa can be managed but will never be pleasant to fight against in general. Yoshi and the plumbers are slightly less nightmarish but still fuck you up in the neutral and combo you to oblivion. Even Ness is a struggle because his everything is twice as quick as your everything. Basically counterpick to Sheik any time your opponent is good and/or using a good character.
not goodso feel free to not believe me, but your experience will probably be similar.
Oh god how could I forget Peach? Yeah Peach will fuck you up real quick like since you have no options to punish well placed floating aerials. ROB is another one that seems one sided as well but that might just be me, since the only other ROBs I've played (both of which are worse players than the ROB I lose to weekly) weren't terribly unfun sets.
rob's projectile really throws the frog off
when in defence, robs 'top' projectile cancels out greninjas nair, and dash attack, and will clang with even half charged water sherukins
the best advice i have is to go in with grabs, up throw to up air works 100% of the time on rob until like 70 percent
also back air and forward air beats out most of robs neutral approaches
just play it defensively and apply good projectile pressure
GG's man, had fun. If you're free on that day you should join the 3ds tourney I'm shilling.
Same with you guys, join the tourney.
You got taste my nigga. I need to finish it still. When I'm done with the WiiU one I'll open up Dolphin and finish.
Fun Games Uncle
I think I sort of found it another Ganondorf guy at the local I go to told me to always assume that ZSSs are going to recover high because DownB
I'll almost always autopilot to tether recovering. If I'm actually paying attention and I see someone going low, that's probably the only time I'll down b onto the stage. Likewise if I see someone trying to get me up high or in the middle I'll just go low, I'm trying to never jump when I'm offstage unless I have to or I'm trying to get something out of it.
RIP my sleep schedule. Great games Pameme. It's been a while but damn, those were not easy games.
>that R.O.B vs Pac match
the most anus clenching thing all day.
GGs Horneaus, you got really better at spacing, that Rob is great, and your Ike got waay better than last time we fought!
Gotta admit that Pac vs Rob match was fucking insane, can't believe how it ended
That juggling you gave to my wario was very good, can't believe I lost every match with my secondary.
Srsly, your Ike got really better, those follow-ups were superb,
You got better than Swat?
This is my last one for now
Could someone link me to a general smash-4 guide? I've been casually playing smash for years but never ever played with anyone but my friends for fun, I can do all the basic shit but I don't even know where to begin researching technical stuff
>my Lucina is starting becoming better than my ZSS
>I main ZSS
Kill me now. It's like I never improve my ZSS despite the hours I spend practicing.
>ZeRo didn't want Bayonetta
>he wanted Sora from KH
He has good taste after all. I'm impressed.
Roy is the best husbando. I want to double him with my 15 mgt spear tbqh
>that FG ledge swallowing Kirby that dies attempting his own gimmick.
Why single him out just because you know his name? Theres plenty of anon posts like that in all threads
Theres no use to it anyway, the stupid namefag clique will come in defending his bullshit saying xDDD its not ~~reallly~~ shitposting we're just JOKING BRO chill out!!! disliking things is just a MEME!
Smash bros is a gateway fighting game of the worst kind. It's a bad series, a clusterfuck of hitboxes and characters that aren't very well done by any aspect, but which attempts to compensate for its weaknesses by adding in excessive item faggotry and DI. The normal FGC member can see this as the shit it is, and may enjoy it, hate it or be indifferent to it, but all the while recognizing that the series itself, regardless of their opinion, is plain bad.
However, these very aspects that try to smear over the shit of its core make it a breeding ground for aspie, unsociable underageb& faggots who engage in every kind of faggotry both online and in the real world. The cartoonish characters all trying their hardest to look fun, the one button special moves, peculiar, colorful clothes, the whole trophy faggotry and everything about the Nintendo world fuels their escapist fantasies, while the wacky character backgrounds, emphasis on air dodging, and overall easiness of the series make it fit just right with the casual drives of your average preteen and his sense of unwarranted self-importance towards the world. Exactly the kind of shit that makes little kiddies and underageb& retards eat this shit right the fuck up.
Smash is basically THE series to attract the most hated fanbase known to EVO, which is why, regardless of individual opinions, it is the responsibility of every fgc member to troll the fuck out of this game and everyone who likes it, and ensure that no smash threads ever encourage the newfriends to show their faces here.
Melee players want to enjoy Brawl and Smash 4 too. But they feel slow, they don't feel as involving, less responsive, and the dev team is patching out anything they think is too strong because they think it'll get abused as opposed to letting people figure out ways to counter it, which is one of the things gameplay depth stems out from. All Melee players want is the core system from Melee, which is a game casuals and competitive players can both play and enjoy, but more content, which is why Project M gets love too.
The other fighting games you mentioned have the benefit of being traditional fighters. The traditional FG has mechanics native to the genre that immediately give it the potential for depth and carry-over of fundamentals, and with a dev that understands that, the games are generally fun every time, even if they're different from eachother. SF3 and SF4 are very different games, Marvel 2 and 3 are very different games, and Blazblue has been improving every single iteration in terms of core mechanics. This is the difference that Smash holds, where the games after Melee have those core mechanics stripped down and simplified, and as a result lose both their depth of play, and satisfying feel.
Options, Smash 4 has them stripped, Melee has them in abundance.
For those uneducated, when we talk about options, we're talking about character/movement options, not game modes, not little stupid things like event modes or trophy collecting or smash run. Cool things you can do while actually playing the character, which makes the game very dynamic and fun to play. This is the reason Brawl and Smash 4 get dropped so fast, because we know just from playing it, because we play smash so much, that they wont have the same gameplay value.
We arent fooled or led aside by extra flashy icing, sparklers, huge candles, spinners, and fireworks on the cake, we want the cake itself to be good. A dry cake is a shit cake.
I doubt we can find enough people at this hour but I'm up for dubs.
Man, we really outta team up like the good ol days sometime. Funny combo.
Of course we wouldn't. Still rockin Marth?
I've been trying to get into duds since forever, literally only Aki is interested in doing dubs lately. Someone just host something already.
>Still rockin Marth?
To be honest not so much as I used to. I find Cloud more fun at the moment and I kind of try to main Robin.
Playing Xenoblade and PS4 stuff, bit I'll be more active from now on. Also waiting for best DLC.
Such a shame. I'll miss bullying your Marth with mine. Can't be assed to play against the new ones, never fought any. Hope you'll enjoy seeing Mii Sword Momiji again though.
Hosting a tournament this Tuesday, if you're interested and have the time try to sign up.
What did I tell you on Miiverse, my man.
It's ok. Just remember not to spoil the surprise next time so I can join at full power, if you catch my drift.
Does anybody want to play some 1v1s/2v2s/FFAs/memes?
No, but I'm willing to work an extra shift each week to support something I like.
it's actually 70 though since the canadian dollar is a literal shit
I don't believe you shill out 70 canada dollardoos every week that is fucking ridiculous
No one has that kind of free cash unless you are getting support from someone / something
Alrighty, I'll host a room.
You don't need to believe me, nor do I really care to make you. You can ask those who received prizes how much they got and then look at the conversion rates from CAD to USD if you're desperate for proof.
Alright, pester me when you're not in dubs.
I'm banned from online play for like 10 minutes, sorry. Thanks, friends, for being so based when you use my console.
If you want the whole story
since I can't smash for the next few minutes anywaysbasically the reason I can afford it is because of school. I have scholarships covering most of what I actually need to buy, so my job is almost purely for stuff I want rather than need. Since all of my money is extra rather than necessary, working an extra few hours to pay for a tourney isn't very hard.
Okay, thanks. I'll be there asap.
Sure thing, kiddo. Been meaning to turn your face like pic related for insulting Mami.
I'll tear your metal off you like the stinkin robot you are!
I don't recall insulting Mami. Something something head joke goes here.
Yes you did, you little sneak. I'll show.
Homura? Why of course. Unless you mean the travesty in your pic.
Keep in mind I'm not spending my whole paycheck on these. I still have at least 200 set aside for myself.
Family provides a lot, and I buy some for myself too.
There's only so much you need to buy when you're not a girl wanting shoes.
I don't drive.
>Money for vidya
I have money set aside, as said.
Sorry anon. No more banter for now. Peace.
Not him, but you get by if you own a decent bike.
>you have to drive to work
Anon, have you heard of a bus? Every student at my school gets a bus pass for the year anyways, I'd be stupid not to use it.
And it's not like I'm working downtown, I work at a fast food place down the road.
Okay, yeah, I expected you take the bus to school, but not to some hourly paying job, alright?
Still feels like it's a tremendous waste of money to give away money to chazo's circlejerks, but do want you wish.
Fast food jobs aren't exactly taken very seriously. Bussing is probably considered prestigious compared to what most people do.
Is it a waste? Probably. But I've always felt my money does more when given to others rather than used on myself, and in this case I can try to foster the growth of smash at the same time.
>tfw read "Fast Foot Jobs"
Ggs Madoka. Thanks for the set.
I'll host on 3DS now for us.
>that free 32% at the beginning of our last game because you held the b buttton
>that 0 to death
I really feel like I should get upset at things like this, but I laugh instead. Good games, Pher.
Do we usually lag like this?
Does anybody else want to play some games?
is it omnislash? i dunno, i haven't played ff7 in like 20 years
uh no the yellow moonspeak, i keep getting caught in it. nobody in my locals really uses cloud, so i dunno what the fuck i'm doing yet
Fucking Disk is some bullshit. It's like it doesn't have any KBG at all.
>chronos picks cloud
I CAN'T TELL THEM APART
>want to play cloud
>alex plays classic cloud so I have to pick ugly AC cloud
>they still look the same
Its incredibly low. At 0% it doesn't knock you around at all making dash attack or grab follow ups. After that, up to 100%ish, Its usually agood link into a forward air for like 16-20% damage.
Its nice that everything Duck Hunt has can stop Aura Sphere (and any other big charging projectile from Samus, Mewtwo, and Wii Fit Trainer), though it takes like half a second to charge a new one to full at that percent so I guess that's not saying much for Lucario.
>footstooled at 10%
>walked into random smash
>cloud's ohko at 50
Anyone wanna play?
as Megaman being a mid range projectile character, and Samus being a long range projectile character, i find the match up a little on Samus's favor, it has been causing me problems lately when playing megaman, because samus always manages to charge neutral b before i can do something to stop it, any advice /flowchart on how to handle Samus?
what that person is saying is bait, right
lots and lots of lemons, iirc they break her missiles and easily cancel her charge
otherwise your general blade/crash setups should continue to be used and you should continue to stay close
GGs everyone, fun matches.
We had some nice syergy with Zard and Zelda in my opinion, Jacob.
Loved that match.
Good games to everybody but Panchito, Jacob and Chronos. Was fun as fuck.
i fell for so many cross slashes, i need to actually play against cloud
yeah that was working remarkably well for some reason
i channel panchito and just constantly throw out fully charged f smashes in the hopes of someone landing in them
back to this shit i guess
if you're close lemons will stop her, she will never have time to charge it otherwise she eats a lemon
you're meant to stick to mid range and follow her movements, abuse metal blade to catch landings and occasionally use crash to force certain actions so you can punish
>saying this after I carried you
I'll play you.
Good morning everyone.
That's almost as small as my TV Jacob.
>Tfw been at Chapter 11 for almost a month because side quests
I want to but have a cat in my head, will report if manage to wake it up.
It's exactly because you carried me and I could never carry you.
well, i understand that, but the issue is that the lemon range is the same range as her grab, so i cant be too far because i cant reach, but also i can't be mid range because she will grab me kek
This is the second time you have given me that excuse and I'm still not sure of which part of it is supposed to be a joke.
Hosting a room
assuming you were just making a mistake and not actually answering to Jacob
what are some cool/interesting smash related or atleast ninty related youtube videos/channels?
No joke or excuse, it's a way of saying "I really want to play with you but I literally have a cat sleeping on my head right now and I might join in like 5 or 10 minutes if nobody else will join, so if you don't feel like waiting feel free to ask somewhere else".
Oh, I see.
This is why I never keep pets.
Just use an image hosting site from the browser.
Is it just me or are people really overhyping Cloud in terms of tier lists?
Like, everyone thinks he could be top tier and all of that but he's really not. He relies way too much on Limit Break, his recovery, while not maybe as bad as some people say, is still not top tier, and he has some pretty slow moves. He also sucks pretty bad against shields.
Like, really how does anybody think he's top tier? He's high tier, sure, but why anything else?
I'm up for 1v1s, whatever
Anyone want some Cloud matchup experience? I've gotten
decentwith Cloud. I say that cause I beat 9/10 FG Clouds in mirrors.Also have my main Fox and secondary Link if everyone's sick of fighting shitty Clouds
>He also sucks pretty bad against shields.
Cloud doesn't lose to shield.He just can't punish as well as any other character when you shield him cause of his meh throw game but, most of his aerials moves are safe on shield.
Good MK's can make anybody upset. One day I'll be one of them.
Good games Nagalfar! That was really fun, hope we can play again some time.
GGs, Falafei. That was interesting.
Rosalina is incredibly awkward to play
>that one friend who always complains about playing Smash when the squad gets together
>always wants everybody to take turns playing fucking single player games
>single player games he's REALLY good at so that his turns last three times longer than everybody else's
>instead of something everybody can enjoy at the same time
>like almost any other Nintendo title (if he hates Smash so goddamn much)
>and if we don't indulge his ass he spends the next month sending passive aggressive text messages to literally everybody
Making friends at university was a mistake.
I don't know, I can't deal with MK's either.
Poor range. His approach is actually pretty bad - he's limited to three options (dash attack, dash grab, roll). Uair strings are actually DI dependent so you can sometimes escape if you mixup which way you're going.
Good games, Holfy. I'd like to stay for more but I've gotta run now.
Fun games Madoka.
One day I'll be able to deal with characters with multiple jumps. But not this day.
Friendly reminder that this Tuesday is yet another weekly tournament as per the usual. Start off this new smash year by proving to me how much more consistent you are than me!
Hosting a tournament this Tuesday, if you're interested and have the time try to sign up.
>both tournaments at the same time
>Reach over for WiiU Gamepad
>Hit the power button
>"That's weird, I thought it was fully charged."
>Plug in cable
>light doesn't come on
>Start to panic
>Shove the charger in and out
>Plug the cord in a different outlet
>plug it in the cradle
>Leave it unplugged for an hour
>Gamepad won't charge
W-what do I do? I just bought this thing on Christmas, I probably haven't used it a dozen times. I didn't buy a lemon, did I?
it's a bit confusing at first but it's well worth the switch
find a button setup that feels natural and go with that, personally i use A for jump and X for attack with Y as grab so maybe something similar will work for you
>tfw I enjoyed it in a cheesy toku/sentai way
So is Mii Fighter really that decent as 1111 balance? Or would it be better to pickup Ryu?
I'm torn between picking up Fighter, Ryu, Mewtwo or Cloud as a secondary to my Pikachu
While I was advertising my tournament, Chazo was the one that posted that particular link.
Thanks for the support Chazo, really appreciate that you're putting aside that stupid grudge.
I assume you mean the Mii Brawler. i say secondary the character you have most fun with. Ryu is a little more well rounded than the brawler, but the brawler has many good qualities that make him unique, namely his speed. You can consistently outplay someone as the brawler, moreso than you can with Ryu because he has superior mobility.
In higher levels of play the 1111 brawler struggles to get kills a lot more than Ryu though. So if you want a character that youll win slightly more often with, pick Ryu, but the brawler is legit on his own.
Cloud is also good and will cover a lot of Pikachu's bad matchups, Ryu probably cant say that
Good games, fun was had.
>mfw timers only
To be fair, I'm a lot less memes in game these days.
Though I secretly want to bring back custom stages to the forefront of /ssbg/ meme dubs.
Let me level with you for a moment, I like Ike's playstyle in Sm4sh, I couldn't care less about him as a Fire Emblem character, I just happen to Like Cloud as a character AND his playstyle in Sm4sh. Ike was just the guy with the biggest sword at the time and was also a
Guts insertI really only stuck with him because I liked how he played.
Reminder that there's going to be a 3DS tourney tomorrow. So everybody sign the fuck up.
>Falkore's theme song in the /ssbg/ anime
I keep hearing people from here say that Bowser/Cloud is 10 - 0 for Bowser, wanna play with me until then instead so I can try how it goes? It's the Renetan-sama anon.
>Labbing in training
>It takes 15 frames for my main to start walking forward after a walk is inputted
I always knew his walk acceleration was shit but goddamn Sakurai, that's a little brutal.
Anyone want 1v1? Also I think Guts is