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'Amount of bought stash tabs has a strong, linear, positive correlation with Exalted Orbs dropped per day' edition.

old thread:>>126921570 (Cross-thread)
>>127066892 (Cross-thread)

>New league Talisman info
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1478438

>/poeg/ HC guild (No sporkers allowed), drop your IGN if you want an invite
https://www.pathofexile.com/guild/profile/740

>Helpful links
http://pastebin.com/2a5WBcBP (embed) (embed) (embed)

>"Hey guys what's the price on this piece of shit item"
http://poe.trade/

>Read this before asking for build advice
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/510084

>2.0 Passive Skill Tree
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree

>2.1 Offline Skill Tree Planner
https://github.com/EmmittJ/PoESkillTree/releases/tag/2.2.3

>Wiki
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Path_of_Exile_Wiki

>Delete This
https://github.com/ben-wallis/Filtration
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fucking Aussies
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why would you craft %es on that shitty ring
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who wants to group? thc
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anyone tried this?
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>>127255878
its capped at 20 wolves and they have shit damage that cant be scaled.
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>>127255878
I haven't but I've heard it's pretty good actually.
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>>127255878
i tried it just for shiggles on a build that wasnt even set for minions. it was literally shit

dunno if that improves on a summoner setup
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>>127256352
>fire and cold damage
>minions
lmao
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The physical mechanics of Cyclone are shit.

All you want to do is stay in Cyclone, but since it's a movement spell, if you happen to mouse over a rock or a stack of books or any other random ground clutter that the pathing doesn't like, the game says "YOU CAN'T MOVE THERE BRO" and you will stop dead in your tracks. Goodbye stun immunity and lifesteal!
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What is the cheapest, high tier map viable hardcore build.

Cyclone?
SRS?
Some Totem shit?
Summoner?
Poison meme?
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>another day
>another thread
>more shitcrow noobposts
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>>127256713
lmao he cant make his own good builds.
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>>127256476
wouldnt that be workable on a zombie build? using added fire and hatred? i dont play summoners at all tbhonest
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>>127256914
you dont play the game at all it seems. fucking newfags not reading the wiki shaking my noggin over your shitty toboggan here.
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>spend all my currency trying to fix build
>but its broken beyond my means to repair because the premise of it was a bust
>have reroll again and this time i didnt even rip

tfw
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>>127257086
>playing temp leagues
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>>127257070

ok?

i thought we were talking about the wolves part of that ring and how it could work. not the ele bonuses themselves. but whatever, feel free to throw a tantrum anon
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>>127257625
>added fire and hatred
you're fuckin stupid mate.
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>>127257707
Explain to him why. Without doing so you are not only rude, but seemingly more incompetent than who you are insulting.
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>>127257808
o_o
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>>127257808
LMAO. go check yourself before you REK yourself!11!
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poeurl.com/vlL

Melee staff build is this a good HC tree? Planning on going Hegemony sweep HCtali send help senpai
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>>127257808
>>127257808

guess im a newfag too cuz i dont really know whats that guy going at
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>>127257969
I'm not quite sure I understand the intent of your post. I am not anybody who was involved with the wolf, cold/fire, or minion discussion. I am merely an individual attempting to raise the community's discourse past the level of inane elitism, to the point where most can positively encourage people to acquire information for themselves and think along their own lines. Berating somebody is by no means a tool to guide others along the correct path.
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>>127256886
epic!
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>>127258239
You are a newfag, prove you're not idiot.

https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/Hellcat5

is this you? this dude has like 2k hours and all his characters are shit, go to Anjila. Look at his tree. is this you?

this is his tree
https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwABAdwB5wUtBWYQ8BEaEdUUIBRNFHEYkRo-GlUbqhv6IWAj0yXfKCopLimlMgk1kjboOuFDMUSeR35KyEz_TeNQR1O7V1RXl1ivXz9gQWFSY3BlTWeAah5qO2xGbbRul26qbydvO3Jsc2t07XTxd-N4DXvDfLiBOoIHguSE2YZgiO2Kr4qzi0-PYJARk6iXeZpqns2fy6QZplenMKgHqW6p-rXytiy8n702vqe-vL_VwBrEuNIh1fjWWNi92XzaweCf4e_kUe8O8i_yQfJF8lrynPe-_Ev-Cv6P

look at that life+abyssus+carnage heart

lmao. I couldn't believe people like him and you existed, but its possible
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>>127255809
I was there the day it happened
I even made OP pic because he just wouldn't stop posting pics of his shitty ring
fun times
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>>127255249
I have a hard time deciding if that ring is good or bad
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>>127258593
This post amazes me.

Do you have any evidence at all or are you literally just throwing out a random profile of some guy on the forums? What even is your point? Did this "Hellcat" PK you or something?
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>>127256914
that sounds like a fun idea senpai
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>>127256865
reminder that you don't even like cats
what would /poeg/ look like if you did?
thank god
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>>127258692
it's shit

and he made it laughable by spending 1ex on that craft
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>>127258593
lmao you're such a fucking scrub

this must be you
http://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/Master_Soul

look at this tree it's so shit
http://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwMBBLMHHg18DkgOXBEvEVARlhhdGyUc3B2qIG4i9Cj6KgsrCizhLdIy0TW5PAU9X0GWRUdFfkZxRwZJUUmxS65Ms1AwUlNXyVnzXfJfamNDZJ1mVGr6bAttGW-ecFJwVnIPcql3B35Zf8aCm4MJhXuFfYcTidOMNox2jxqP-pAbkFWSfZMnlG-VLpeVl_SYb5itmhOaO5ykn9-hL6IApyusZqyqrfGus7QMuJO5Pr6KwGbK09Af0NDQ9dfP2HbZW9vU3CPfiuGI5c_pAuq66-7r9ew473zviO_r8NXyHfLh9zL5N_5J

prove you aren't a complete noob, it just amazes me how idiotic you are
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>>127259287
1v1 me in a map then
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>>127258987
>it's shit
Yeah, it has no life lmao XD
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>>127259287
Best intuitive leap I've seen desu
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>>127259645
I didn't even look at the three before I posted it except that it went in all the wrong directions.

You're right, it's actually almost worth it there.
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>>127259287
>Joined:
>June 8, 2014
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>>127260075
If it's all that funny to you, just go click on random people's profiles in the forums. That's exactly what I did, to prove my point.
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>>127259828
Judging only by the tree, it looks like a dagger Cyclone CoC Discharge build, Hybrid. Actually, seeing also Elemental Equilibrium, I'm pretty sure it's Mathil's Fakener, revised for a witch, which would explain the exotic tree.
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>>127259287

my browser went to shit after accidentally clicking that.
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>>127260505
How do I do this? I want it.
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>make melee crit build
>no dps
>just tank as fuck
every time

where do I always go wrong
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>>127260629
>where do I always go wrong
picking melee
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>>127260505
>Tiny House walk through
Maybe it's time to stop spending money on shitty GGG MTX and start saving to buy a real house faggit
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>>127260629
If you're tanky as fuck, just wear your abyssus
It's called balance.

>>127260505
>wikihow kissing
don't bother m8, won't be necessary
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>>127261093
>that's the joke
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>>127260629
You have a shit weapon.
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I heard someone was buying exalts for like 4$ a piece on talisman standard. Anyone sold anything?
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Should you avoid leveling skill gems to stat requirements that you can't cover purely with passive nodes?

I feel like I have caught myself in a twisted path of +stat requirements on gear. Like if I take off a ring half my shit would be fucked.
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>mfw I can't even sustain t3
>4h played today
>a single t1 dropped
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>>127263646
you should aim to cover those stat reqs with gear

usually gems arent too fucked to cover reqs. they need like 138 of a given stat at most
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I can never decide which build to play.

I can come up with a couple I want to play but I can never pick one to stick with.
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Dick
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should i bother picking up white talismans?
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>>127265387
Yeah, so you can use them at a low level and PK scrubs in public parties.
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>>127265387
should not bother picking up talismans period
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>>127265492
literally, LITERALLY nine(9) challenges come from talismans
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Is it even possible to transition from zombies/spectres summoner Witch to SRS without it being a pain? I have plenty of Regrets and respec points available but I'm just wondering if I can even do it.

Would I go EB/MoM to support the cost of SRS because I can't do the BM resource because i can't get much life regen up on this side of the tree.
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>>127265836
you'll never use the mtx garbage anyway, why bother. it'll roll to some char on standard/hc and u'll forget about it
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>>127265907
you are near enough to the duration shit
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Anybody wanna run some low tier maps or just hang out?
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>>127265907
This is my SRS tree.

Looks similar enough
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>>127267130
>srs
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All memes aside, are summoner builds viable now?
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>>127268908
viable? yes. annoying? yes.
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>>127268908
>posting anime
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>>127269301
I mean, is it as good as making a totem build?
>>127269380
3d != anime
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Guys I wanan reroll again. Which build?

Ichimonji x2 aura/herald scion with Wild Strike
or
Dreamfeather x2 & Queen of the Forest / acro ranger using cyclone
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>>127269874
diablo 3 new season desu
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>>127269920
nope
if anything I could try out Grim Dawn, but I didn't like Titan Quest.
Besides I just got unemployed and poe is free
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>>127269742
probably not as good as totems but nearly as safe
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>>127269920
Shit, that's my new build, too. I just literally can't be assed to do any more master rotations. I'd rather die than grind Zana up yet again.
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>>127268908
Im playing summoner atm. 4L Revenants are pretty suffering and relying on zombies + mon'tregul's is also longwinded.

I was fairly happy with the build until i partied up with someone and saw that my damage in even a two player is laughable and that his clear speed dominated mine whilst also being more tanky etc etc

I'm not sure if I will continue on with this or try and respect to SRS because desu atm its p lame.

Especially if you come across someone like Igna Phoenix and she just wipes ur minions clean and then u have to go back to the crystal veins, put down some descecrate and then kill yourself.

I'm so on the fence with this atm
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>>127270473
or watch as people with a level 17 Bladefall clear twice as fast as you with a fraction of your gear investment

summoners are gay. It's too bad too, but farming new specs every time is so fucking tedious and it's not like there's any payoff.
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>>127270752
>or watch as people with a level 17 Bladefall clear twice as fast as you
and have twice the fun.
I wish minions were better. Shame they're mediocre at best. Really wish they would have buffed them more to compensate for the snapshot removal.
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>>127271423
They could've at least left SRS alone. It still wouldn't be as top notch as the poison meta, but I find it just awful to play now.
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>ggg in charge of making a video game
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>>127270473
>>127270752

as long as you are happy with the build in single player you should be fine. I don't like what poe has become, everyone jumps on the bandwagon for new skils and builds.. and if you can't clear a map in 5 minutes you have a slow, terrible build and get mocked by the community.

Play what you want and how you like it. Don't let other people say your build is shit.
If you can kill monsters on your own at a pacing you like, then it's all good. Stop comparing to other players.
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How does one get higher tier maps?
I turn all my maps into magic but all I get are t1 to t4, do I need to use alchs on them?
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>>127271681
No, I meant that I like summoner but I literally hop on my bladefall totem dude and shit all over everything with zero effort with a 4 link in Geoffri's Shitty Hat or play my proliferate trapper and do just as well as the totem faggot.

You could probably enjoy summoner more if you have no frame of reference, but it's not very good and efficiency is king in a grinding game.
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>>127271821
I don't know if this is bait or if you're really new.
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>>127271681
this

everyone on /poeg/ seems to believe that for a build to be "viable" it needs to be able to clear uber and tier 15 dual bosses
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>>127271821
try to roll some decent iq on your blue maps. but dont spend more than 3-4 alts on them


also if you get a lot of t1's turn them into t2 via vendor
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>>127272092
this may shock you, but some people might like a playstyle but find it less fun because it's weak compared to other things.
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>>127272265
i didnt say anything about people's opinions on how good a build must be for them to like it. only that people can be satisfied by an average build
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one had 75 global spell crit, 30 crit multi. not too bad
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outplayed bitch nigga
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>>127272000
>>127272241
I have only been playing for about 1 week now and I wasn't aware there was a vendor recipe, though 3 maps for 1 seems expensive but I guess that's the guess way, thanks.
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Looking to optimise my self-cast Bladefall build. Current links are: Bladefall, Conc Effect, Spell Echo, Controlled Destruction and Added Fire/Life Leech. Yes, that's my tree as it currently stands at level 84. Scion life wheel was before I changed from Blade Vortex to Bladefall, since I was grabbing the Potency of Will cluster.

https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwMBAuMEBwSzB6UI9BXtFm8WvxbzFy8Yaho4HNwdFB_HIvQkqiY8JpUo-it4LJwtiy-dMZ4y0TbpOVI6WDrhPAU9X0GHRUdFnUmyTLNQQlJTUzVTUlS9VUtVxlXWWAdZ81xAXsBh4mTnZp5qQ2wLbRlyD3_GgKSCEIKbgseD24hajDaPGo9Gj_qQVZMnlouXlZf0mjua4Juhn9-iAKZXpwismLc-uJO86sBUwGbBxdWm1bnYvdrd34rfsONq6-7sGO0873zwH_JF99f56PrS_go=

Realistically, all I want to change are the 16 passives from the Scion life wheel up to near Mind Over Matter. My plan was to grab Will of Blades, Fangs of the Viper, Nullification, Blood Drinker, Deep Thoughts, Written In Blood and the missed life node near Devotion.

This would net me 42% additional physical damage and a touch more life at the expense of my mana/mana regen. Thoughts? Any other pathing mistakes I've missed?
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>not going for the epic crit trapper poisoned bladefall
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>>127258108
please respond
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>>127274045
looks alright desu
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>>127274558
thanks senpai
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>vagan sold me a skean
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>>127273125
Alright then.

Since you're new

Maps will only drop at the ilvl of the zone you're in.
So, tier 1 maps are level 68, so they only drop level 68 maps.
The exception is that elite (blue names) packs add one ilvl to the loot they drop, and uniques (orange/brown names) and champions (yellow) add two levels.

So, in order to get higher tier maps, you need to run higher tier maps and get harder monsters to drop maps as loot so that it's a higher level than what you're running.

Try to build up a base of 8 or so maps 1 tier above what you're running, then move to those if your gear can handle them. I'd suggest making anything under t6 simply blue, and then roll them until you get pack size. I'm sure someone on here who's better than I will tell correct me on that.

The vendor recipe is useful because some maps just suck. Museum and Desert bosses are harder than their tier suggests, and their layouts usually require a decent amount of backtracking, so I vendor recipe all of those once I've got a pool to pull from. You'll quickly learn which maps you like and which you don't, and therefore which ones you like to use for vendor recipes.
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>forced to use the skill tree on the official site because the offline planner is a buggy piece of shit
this is such cancer
why can't ggg just make the official one not shit
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>>127275779
offline planner is working fine for me
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>>127275375
It's much clearer now, thanks that helped a lot!
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every build is fuckin boring what do i do here
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>>127276671
play summoner or totems so that other builds become more interesting.
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>start new char
>warp to underwater cave
>get a phone call
>forget about the game for a bit because phone
>come back to my ripped goldrim and wanderlust

nice game poetards
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>>127277025
retard
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my meme set has once again bring me fortune :^)
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>>127276047
you can also add 20% quality on white maps before using an alch or trans with 4 chisel, it's up to you at what tier you want to do that.

http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Chisel
for chisel recipe
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>>127269874
Dreamfeather still does and always did suck
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>>127277742
missed meme :^)
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>>127277942

how much total iiq/iir ?
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>>127277942
what's a "meme set". Is it a thing you just say or does it actually mean anything?
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>>127278742
he was the guy with glacial hammer treshold shit
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I want to join the /poeg/ guild

IGN: Vaethyr (leveling a skill gem char named zzhc_RSG right now)
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>17k tooltip on reave with charges and buffs at 78
>feels slow as shit
>reave sucks too because you can't chill or you'll lose stacks
>lightning strike gets jammed on buildings and rubble so it's worthless
how much dps should I have? this can't be right guys
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>>127278947
ooh
>>127277942
do you use herald of ice? I heard the interactions with it + shattered chains jewel sucks
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>>127255249
>No life
Well at least I'm going for a bit of ES on my summoner, so it's not a complete waste, and guess I wont find anything better this league, but fucking hell. It could have been such a good item.
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just died for the 9th time

what's an essence drain build, poeg? what do i prioritize? is crit worth it?
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friendly reminder that if you dont play hc you are playing in a game mode with no "game over" screen meant for little children
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friendly reminder that if you play on hardcore it's because you're a no-life neet who will never lose his virginity because all his time is spent leveling new shit on this old ass dead game.
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I fucking love the shattering sound effect. I've noticed that freezing pulse is dead this patch. I've also seen that crit multi's a lot harder to stack. What's the go to build that freezes entire screens? I want to hear that shattering sound effect on every pack.
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reminder if you don't delete your stash on death in a hardcore league you are LITERALLY playing softcore
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127280891

>someone actually typed this out and posted it and even included that picture
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To: 127281491

You said it bro!
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@127281913
You fucked up your reply newfag, loser please leave

Wryyyyyyyyy
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>>127280325
no memeing, no offense, but why play hc if you're gonna die so much
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#127282359 #127281913 #omg
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>>127283650
i dont give a fuck

im DONE
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>>127281135
crit phys spell with hatred

no cold spell in the game is good atm
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>>127284073
how does rigwald see
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>>127284285
with his eyes dunkass
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>>127284320
but where do his eyes go?
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>>127284704
he sockets them in his armor
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>>127280325
>>127284073
>played enough to get rigwalds helmet
>wonders if crit is worth it for DAMAGE OVER TIME

you are one confusing anon
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>>127284285
He's used to playing low life builds without grabbing the arcane vision node. He says they're a waste of points. When he rerolled into his current spec and swapped out his gear he didn't notice much of a difference with his field of view.
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Something I've always struggled with going from Normal into Cruel and beyond is getting gear that isn't shit with the stats and links that I need.
Do I just start popping jewellers' and fuses on leveling rares? Seems like kind of a waste.
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>>127286285
just find something 4-linked and wear it till maps
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>>127286285
you don't need capped res

50+ is good enough if you know what you're doing

you only need 1-2 4Ls leveling and everything else can just be life + res

if you need lots of links you're using too many skills
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>>127286070
you can pay or get carried to most of the achievements
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Bladefall is so fucking unbalanced, what were they thinking?
It's literally better than firestorm in every way and doesn't need penetration support. 6% base crit, 120% dmg effectiveness.
Huge DPS boosts from Mings/Hatred/HoA/whatever.

Other spells can just fuck off with this around.
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>>127286565
the incinerate crowd needs some way to keep playing poe, anon. they buy mtx
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>>127286565
>6% base crit

recheck those stats anon
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>>127286565
its also better than EK in everyway but people will tell you different.
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>>127286565
controlled destruction and poison are both retarded too

ggg doesn't play this game though so they don't know how to balance

the fact that this game has so many glaring issues really makes you wonder what is going on in their quality assurance department
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>>127286813
My bad, 5% it is.
It's Vortex that is 6.
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>>127286285
3-4l is cheap and easy to get before maps and shjould carry most builds unless they're shie. by the time you reach maps and/or farm dried lake a 5l is cheap and easy to get. You shouldn't need to do many gear upgrades from normal to cruel, you can do with ~40-60% res up to dominus/a4. Transitioning to merciless, you'll wanna be capped.
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>>127286852
bladefall has 0.8s cast time compared to EK's 0.6 you fucking inbred

EK clears way better than bladefall but you just look at stats so you wouldn't know
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>>127286852
Not to mention it can hit the same target up to what, 4 times?
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>>127286875
>ggg doesn't play this game

that both frost blades and bladefall can exist in the same game is proof of that

and cyclone builds exist outside far the usual gimpedness sphere that its like a different game when you use them
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>>127286565
It's literally better than twink gear as soon as you get it. It never falls off. The damage is always god-tier, even when you're drastically undergeared and underleveled. And the best part is, unlike flameblast or spark totems, it's actually fun to play.
Still, I don't know what they were thinking. GGG can't into balance I guess. Then there's its interactions with poison.
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>>127286565
>Bladefall gets 120% damage effectiveness
>Spells with shit cast time that hit once like Ice Nova get 70% for some reason

>>127286875
Controlled Destruction shouldn't fucking exist, holy shit. What awful game design. What the hell were they thinking?
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>>127287020
bladefall hits more shit, more times per cast

the difference is night and day

but you just like ek so you wouldnt know
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>>127287020
Youre fucking stupid Idiot. If EK takes 2 casts to kill something whereas Bladefall only uses 1, then it's more like 1.2 seconds.

Also, EK has shitty range, AoE and can only hit a limited number of mobs.

Get fucking good idiot.
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>>127287242
The were thinking that people need a reason to roll non-crit because without it there literally isn't one.
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>>127287264
>EK has shitty range

bladefall can't even cast at the end of your screen
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>>127287318
controlled destruction is crazy dps boost even on crit builds

there's something seriously wrong with the balance on that shit
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>>127287330
cant cast there bit it reaches the edge easily

you are really talking out of your ass anon.
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do you need max res in cruel?
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is this guild still active??? thinking of making a comeback...
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>>127287687
no, try to cap specific resistances as best you can when you need them though
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>>127287687
at least for the end of a3 and a4 you do. the rest you can do with 50% ish
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>>127287318
what about the fact that you spend like 40 points in crit passives that you could be spending somewhere else
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/poeg/, i feel like i am about to make a regretful mistake

I want to spend money on this game
on winter mystery boxes instead of stash tabs
and i am a shitter who plays shitcore

do i do it?
do i git gud?
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>>127288268
just support GGG by rmting.
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>>127288126
you either spend 40 points in crit passives to get damage or spend them in noncrit damage passives to get less damage

the only thing stopping people from going crit is gear requirements
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>>127288268
you will regret it
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I wonder: did Garena do the asian thing with PoE and lets people buy leveled chars and crafting currency with $$? Or gives leveling boosts to people playing from affiliated cafes?
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>>127288676
There are events in Garena and MTX we can't get - iirc there's also x2 weekends and weekend events which are INCREDIBLY popular with internet cafes because people are too busy during the workweek. It should also be noted that GARENA own a fuckton of internet cafes.
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>>127288268
Mystery boxes are ass. Just buy the mtx you want flat out. Also, anon, stash tabs are the way to go. I have 20 tabs and I still feel like I don't have enough space for all of my vendor recipes, maps, currency, and shit in my shop. There's nothing wrong with playing shitcore. Just don't act like it makes you a better person for playing it.
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>>127288676
>he asian thing with PoE and lets people buy leveled chars
literally happeing in this thread
>crafting currency with $$
it's called RMT welcome to poe hi
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Someone redpill me on poison support gem for CoC bladefall

I have the shadow phys/chaos nodes and force shaper.
Plan to use Mings.

How good is it compared to conc effect?
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cause ima do it
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>>127288268
dont by mystery boxes
buy a nice pet or two to follow you around, and stash t abs.
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>>127289301
conc effect is better in every way because poison takes time to deal damage whereas bladefall one shots everything anyways.
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>>127289320
I'd do it with you if you weren't a weaboo faggot.
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>>127289972
That's what I thought.
Does it beat out Inc Crit Strikes for single target bosses?
It propably does, so my question might be redundant
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>>127289046

in asia, its considered legit for the mmo publishers or devs to combat rmt and account trafficking, by implementing their own kinds of p2w

which is why i asked
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>>127290203
jokes on you, im a anarchist fagget who occcastionaly watches anime, hahaha
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>>127290490
>using the intewebz
>anarchist

nope
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>>127290813
jokes on you ima discordianist anarchist. the real freedom is chaos and the chaos of society is the best freeedom.
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how 2 deal with corrupting blood and lightning thorns as blade vortex
run away and dont do promenade maps?
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>>127291760
for corrupting blood cheap anti bleed flasks and , armour/phys resist/acro/regen all help mitigate it.

for lt, enfeeble and topaz help a lot. but not enough, you still need to keep your bv count kinda low
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>>127291760
>>127291760
vaal pact is a real good one.
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>>127269742
>Is summoner as good as making a totem build
Why not do both
Do double Spell Totem both with Raging Spirits and have Zombie meatshields. You literally cannot lose unless you're 100% pants on head retarded.
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Best support setup for Barrage Bladefall? Currently running Life Leech Item Rarity CoC Chain. Was thinking about Increased Area of Effect instead of item rarity but concentrated effect is a huge damage boost but might be hurting my clears.
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Guy died respecing CI, its that Uber Dan guy nothing of value was lost he will RMT another skyforth and full gear set like he did on his incinerators that died every 2 uber runs within the next week.
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>>127279330
I've come to realize that the +1 to maximum number of zombies sucks compared to other amulets you can wear. Maybe if it scaled? I dunno.
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>>127293117
why would you do this to yourself, that'd be slow as fuck with all the setting up making your true dps considerably lower than the potential it is. thats stupid, also youd be fucked for nodes.
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>>127293174
if your barrage is specced right, each pack should be proccing more than enough bladefalls to die, conc effect's aoe size gimp shouldnt matter
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>tfw nobody here advice me between this 2 builds

trapper baldefall with posion/chaos and crit
or
trapper chaos converted firestorm (dunno if crit or just going for double curse and more spell/fire damage)
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okay i did 21 challenges and want to mf for the rest of the league

should i
a) vaal spark dried lake until my hands fall off
b) mf incin totem (this is probably shit after the nerf)
c) mf autistic arrow
d) quit
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>>127293174
swap out rarity for conc and do a few runs. See how it feels. Personally, I don't mind the loss of AoE. I know a few people who do, though.
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>>127293174
yeah switch to cyclone
>no need for accuracy
>immunity to stun
>can pass through mobs
>more procs, AoE, and mobs hit.
>scales off AoE gems together
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>>127293330
because it's fucking fun you dicksuck
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>>127287130
flameblast was fun as fuck tho
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>>127293385
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>>127293606
not really, same gameplay if you switched spell totem to desecrate and just focused on SRS damage.
>plop down desecrate flesh offering and ignore it
>use srs and zombies (lol) and just plow shit
>next pack plop another desecrate!

also

>using zombies

I know srs is shit, but for you guys who never hit level 75 its fine.
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Any softcore bros out here? Need a guild to join up
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Rarity: Rare
Fate Call
Demon's Horn
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Wand
Physical Damage: 26-48
Elemental Damage: 6-115 (augmented)
Critical Strike Chance: 8.00%
Attacks per Second: 1.20
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Requirements:
Level: 56 (unmet)
Int: 179 (unmet)
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Sockets: B
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Item Level: 57
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17% increased Spell Damage
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+2 to Level of Socketed Fire Gems
17% increased Spell Damage
Adds 6-115 Lightning Damage
44% increased Critical Strike Chance for Spells
+16 to maximum Mana
7% increased Accuracy Rating
15% increased Light Radius


i thought you could only have 6 mods on an item or is light radius just an extra thing
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>>127293391
d
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>>127293443
chain barrage with volley fire though. fire a single barrage off and around 20 projectiles total bounce around the entire room critting and every single bounce drops a bladefall and the entire room becomes bladefall and you clear it instantly. cyclone doesn't chain. Fakener is cool but I like my melees to be tanky and voll's is for glass cannons imo. Yes i know cyclone is the least risky melee skill but still. I also already spent 1 ex on a wand. I'll save going cyclone for when i get really bored of this which isn't happening any time soon.
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>>127293835
PM Vowel ingame.

>>127293887
poeaffix.net
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>>127293801
That's gay though why would I do that over having a ton of little flaming skulls flying all about
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>>127293927
S R S C L O W N
R
S
C
L
O
W
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>>127293920
I saw your video - the strand one right on the dischord? From what I can see your accuracy is shit, I can't see your gear but you have wayyyyy too little procs for how many projectil
es/huge of a jewel investment you've made.

Also
>voll's
Please, I'm playing CoC Bladefall on standard right now and this is my life pool using Ming's heart
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>>127294087
>standard
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>>127293760
I wasn't a fan. I loved prolif burns, don't get me wrong, but I never could get into flameblast.
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>>127293391
e) flame dash spell totems + searing bond
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>>127294217
You can get like 4k life 4k ES without even trying Senpai.

Also, I don't know how you generate power charges but I'm using CWDT+BV+PCoC and it's amazing. If I could, I'd run CWDT+BV+PCOC+Blasphemy+Warlords Mark
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>>127293887
one is a hybrid mod
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>>127294428
ive played this game for like 2 years and ive never noticed the light radius accuracy shit fuck me m8
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>>127294586
wait light radius effects accuracy?
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>>127294660
omg
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>>127294660
no

there is an hybrid modifier that has both
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>>127294713
fuck you niggerbreath
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>>127294350
I actually can't live without using blasphemy, temp chains, and warlords mark. It's just too fucking good.
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>>127294827
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how does bladefall fares against elemental reflection?
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>>127294832
if you're cyclone, CWDt+CoH+Warlords Mark is literally better than blasphemy in every situation, only reason I don't use it is because PCOC+CWDT+BV is fucking god tier. take 500 damage and instant max power charges.
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>>127295093
What do YOU think Anon.
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Just ripped and am done, how do I safely RMT shit on JSP? Both from scammers, and GGG
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>>127294087
you have me confused for someone else. im dreamless_wanderer just a guy who started up a couple weeks ago, got to 81 on hc talisman then rerolled sc because i wanted to have more fun and play more risky [didnt die]. im pushing almost 90% crit on barrage, 89% acc and 3 volley fire gems so i assure you proc business is gud.

nice life/es, someone is a 1%er. maybe ill get decent defenses eventually. gotta keep grindin'
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>>127295093
Fine.
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>>127295093
rainbow bladefall ele reflect can be pretty dangerous but you shouldnt be dying to it normally. reflect maps are out of the question
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>>127295093
how does firestorm fare against physical reflect?
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>>127295106
That so? Thanks anon
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>>127295515
fs cant have like 75% if its damage output added as phys damage
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>softcore
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>>127295290
I have been using JSP quite a lot lately. Over 100 trades so far between hc and sc, and not once have I been scammed or even had a sketchy deal. I've not done trades larger than around ~1000-1500 fg (2-3 ex) and most have been a lot smaller but d2jsp is a very safe site. Just follow the proper etiquette, post in thread before pming ign and do not mention jsp or jsp usernames in game. remember the 2/3 rule for giving first too. join date/posts/fg. if you have better stats than them in 2 out of 3 of those they give first. happy trading!
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>>127295290
Also have them or you give a random bullshit item like a minor health flask or alt shard if you're worried about ggg.
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>>127295806
cheating faggot i bet you're still poor and shit
sucks to suck
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>>127295806
>>127295962
I see, would making an alt account and transferring it onto that character on a different IP be safer?
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>>127296051
i didnt do any rmt though, i just traded hc stuff for fg and used said fg to get sc stuff. There has to be a gray area somewhere. It's not completely legal but it sure isn't as bad as people who buy their way up the ladder.
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>>127296051
fuck off shitcrow. People enjoy playing the game their own way. Catposter said this himself and so did pepe poster
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>>127295301
wow there lad i think you need to hang yourself
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>>127296301
I sell shit for forum gold at the end of each league, then by my shit the first few days of a fresh league. Don't lie to yourself. It's blatantly against the rules. There is no gray area. What you are doing goes against the ToS. If you're going to do it then do it right. Don't hide behind some twisted take on morality.
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Someone got me an LA build handy? Or SA? I wanna do Voltaxic but havent got the money for it yet so will transition to it l8r.

Hardcore, ofc
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>>127296475
Then stop lying? Lying also doesn't have a gray area but you're doing it right now? Ironic isn't it.

>>127296525
grab all crit and life nodes and acrobatics.
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>>127296525
_______________________________________________make your own build retard________________________________________________________________________________
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>>127296475
>I sell shit for forum gold at the end of each league, then by my shit the first few days of a fresh league
good thing i dont do that, i typically just delete my shit or never touch it again.
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>>127296673
>Then stop lying?
I wasn't the anon you were talking to. I just posted because you seem to think it's a grey area.
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>>127296525
if you cant figure out the way to build a LA bowfag, you prolly shoulnt be playing hc
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>>127296525
get 2/3 Static Electricity jewels
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Is there anything MORE broke than poison bladefall i should try before it gets patched out?
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>>127297228
trap poison bladefall is better
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>>127297228
poison bladefall does less damage than regular bladefall.
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i fucking love poorjoy's asylum

what a fun map
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reminder that cheating is cheating and cheating is for scrubs
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What do you guys do with five linked items with shitty bases? Just vendor them this late in the league?
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>>127297228
>>127297393
o-onegai, how about this:

>>127293385
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>>127297890
there isn't cheating in poe
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>>127298606
sell them for cheap 1 or 2 c

someone may rip his good gear and then need something cheap to get back on track

thats on hc tho. on sc just vendor
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I saw SRS was nerfed. How is null's inclination this patch?
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>>127286513
>downplaying my accomplishment

are you implying completing all of the challenges is easy?
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Rarity: Rare
Phoenix Band
Iron Ring
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Requirements:
Level: 48
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Item Level: 72
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Adds 1-4 Physical Damage to Attacks
--------
+14% to all Elemental Resistances
+38% to Fire Resistance
+37% to Cold Resistance
0.29% of Physical Attack Damage Leeched as Mana


did i get fucked in the ass on the base?
>>
are you retarded?
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>>127300669

im explicitly saying 20 of them can be done just playing the game with zero actual effort
the rest can be bought or need some planning to do and, some can be expensive tho
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>>127299963
even worse. duh. base duration got gutted.
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>>127301146
yes
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>>127300916
yeah
sell it to a facebreakers memer or something
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I have a choice to fill a spot as a kukclone fag.

level 1 CWDT -> Warlord's mark-> Summon Chaos golem spot:

What do I fill it with?
Blood rage level 7
Phase Run level 3

Or something else?
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>>127302149
why the fuck arent you using CWDT+BV+CoH+Warlords Mark?
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>>127302193
...BV?
I won't be able to get any damage because it would stuck at level 8 due to CWDT 1?

am I missing something?
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>>127301241
so you're saying it's easy to get the ~30ex required to buy them?
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>>127302297
your thinking skills is what you're missing
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>>127302349
im saying its as hard as you want to make it to yourself
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>>127302647
...Okay.
I apply the same curse in just about the same speed (it comes up nearly instantly as is with CWDT 1).

The low level would mean no appreciable damage.

I'd lose 4% mitigation from the golem

and either 8% attack speed + life leech + frenzy charge generation

or

31% move speed, evade, 21% melee damage.

WHAT am I missing exactly?
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Got some steambux, was thinking about buying something from the cash shop.

When you buy an alternative spell effect, do you only get to use it once, or can you reuse it on the same spell on a different character? Is it equippable or a one time consumption item?
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>>127303107
i dont know
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>>127303107
You equip it to an item and can take it off at any time.
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>>127303195
Thanks for being honest anon
>>127303258
Alright cool. If it was a one time use item it'd be an absolute waste of money.
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>>127303312
its already an absolute waste of money anon
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>>127303395
If I like it it's not a waste
I play poe for fun
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>>127302647
Am I thinking that your logic is

cwdt 1, proc blade vorex, curse on hit allows level 20 curse proc = more endurance charges?

Seems pretty shit considering losing the golem mitigation and attack speed/frenzy charge off blood rage.
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>>127303450
Hey wow you know how I said if I like it then it's not a waste? Wow I'm a fucking retard someone fucking kill me

I wanted the blue icy skull thing for my Lich character I was making right aight so I went to go buy it

200 points is 20 dollars, I figured, well I guess 200 points is a lot.

The icy skull is 220 points.

Are they trying to fucking tell me that getting a fucking skin that turns my head into a skull, a fucking cosmetic effect, costs 22 dollars?????? Fucking seriously?!

For 22 dollars I can buy 50+ cosmetic items in Dota 2.

For 22 dollars I can buy a whole game on Steam.

22 dollars is NOT A GOOD DEAL for a SINGLE COSMETIC ITEM. Maybe for a full set of armor that radically changes your character? Like a cosmetic that turns your whole body into an icy skeleton I could MAYBE see that being 20 dollars worth of cosmetic, but a single icy skull? 20 dollars? Fucking seriously?? Are they retarded???
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>>127303989
>Are they retarded???

same thing with stash tabs

when on "discount" they are 110. and you can only buy points in increments of 100. so you have to buy 200 anyway.

thats how they make their business. its why most of us think its an enormous waste of money to buy even more stash tabs than the absolutely necessary minimum
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>why are poe's mtx so expensive???
>because the game is free
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>>127303989
It's a good thing I looked into their "Winter Mystery Box" bullshit. By not being forthcoming about the box being able to give you the same item repeatedly, they are intentionally exploiting their userbase. When I googled it there's a fucking chart on Reddit about the drop rates of some shit. Icy Skull comes out of that chest but oh guess fucking what it's apparently less than 1% chance.
>>127304338
Dota 2 is free and I can get 50+ cosmetics on the marketplace for the same price as one from PoE's official shop. For 20 dollars I can get 2-3 cosmetic SETS from Dota 2 of my choice, or gamble on 5-6 chests that will give me a set of cosmetics each, and never give me the same ones twice.

Whoever says "it's because the game is free" is a fucking giant retarded chimp.
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I don't think this person is playing poe right now but

To the person whom I helped buy a volls devotion on standard league, would it be possible for you to let me borrow it for a series of tests?
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>>127304550
>they are intentionally exploiting their userbase

if you've ever played games like Warframe or marvel heroes, you'd know that this is the usual modus operandi of companies that for some things pretend to be "small indie devs", but then try to milk AAA-studio money out of their whales.

They completely rape the meaning of "microtransactions", as they transactions taking place are in no way small.

At least to GGG's credit, everything but the guild slots and stash tabs, everything else in the cash shop serves no real purpose other than lag you harder
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>>127304550
Full newer cosmetic sets in doter are 2 dollars on average on marketplacer, full older sets all the way down to 30 cents

Lotta value.
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>>127304942
There's a difference between price gouging and outright being the biggest fucking jews on the planet

I mean the Raging Spirit spell effect is just a pallet swap and it's 8 fucking dollars for an effect that honestly should just be in the game as a gem.
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>tfw been playing since 2012 and haven't spent any money on this game
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>>127300916
vaal it
>>
I still don't understand how to tell if an item is good.

I watch streams and these dudes will pick up some (example) three socket yellow boots with 100 armor and seemingly random stats and they're like "Oh SHIT this could be good!" I have to admit I would honestly just vendor them.

I am a noob and my eye is drawn to obvious things that say life, damage, resistance, or big numbers. I just hit Merciless for the first time with what's essentially a net-build so I have very little experience with this game.

Is this going to come with experience of rollable stats, their parameters, build needs, etc or have I been missing a major part of this game?
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where's the best place to find groups/people to map with from the aus region??

or if anyone wants to do t8+ maps on the aus server hit me up

yak_three
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>>127306021
>Is this going to come with experience of rollable stats, their parameters, build needs, etc
yes
basically the more builds you gear for the more you'll come to understand what might be desirable
crafting is also a big part of it
what looks like a shit item might actually be a decent base for crafting
>>
I guess I didn't read the thread and was retarded and bought 50 points worth of those mystery winter boxes. I gotan Ice Spear skin and 3 Northern Lights consumables, the consumables barely do anything, and the effect lasts maybe 2-3 seconds, and the ice spear skin makes it so that it doesn't change effect based on its distance, making it harder to judge how far away to be to get ez crits.

So I got 1 pay 2 lose item and 3 literal farts.
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Rarity: Rare
Blight Hold
Iron Ring
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Requirements:
Level: 35
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Item Level: 52
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Adds 1-4 Physical Damage to Attacks
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Adds 6-15 Physical Damage to Attacks
Adds 10-15 Fire Damage to Attacks
+15 to Accuracy Rating
+46 to maximum Life
+11% to all Elemental Resistances
+24% to Lightning Resistance

How much should I ask for this ring? I hear facebreaker users need the flat phys.
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>>127306713
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Is there a trick to importing item data on POE trade?

It seems like a simple Ctrl-C fills it with overly strict junk like implicits that shouldn't be there.
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>>127306926
I checked, they vary fucking wildly because retards don't know how to price items (much like myself), was expecting some sage advice from the memers here, if you don't know, anon, I won't hold it against you.
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should i just scour and start over?
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>>127307080

poeg isnt your pricecheck, you should know this because there only ever one or two newfaggots trying to use it as if it was, and we always tell them to fuck off

the op has info on a couple sites that can help you
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>>127306021
Thats your issue you watch streams these guys are for the most part dumbfucks, or jews who will say the shittiest rings worth maybe 2 chaos are worth exalts.
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>>127306021
>I still don't understand how to tell if an item is good.

look for a good life roll first, see if there is room for it to be crafted if there isn't one, then read the rest.
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>>127306713
at least 20c
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>>127309267

>alpha male
>with his chick by its side ready to suck him off during mapping breaks
>so badass they have their own undeground UFC


yeah
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>>127273340

go to the forums and copy my build, let's you solo twinned kaoms/gods chosen/etc no problem.

>EB
>added fire
>those fucking stupid shit talent choices you listed

MATE
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https://youtu.be/VbOidGmNtZk oh fug
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>>127310875
>using conc instead of added fire
>muh tooltip
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>>127310967
Fire gets resisted much harder than large amounts of phys do. Added fire is paddier than conc is desu.
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>>127310875
>shitcore
>can at least play anything he wants
>still plays memefall

kek
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Haven't played PoE in ages, is EK a viable spell to work a build around? If so, who's likely the best character for it?
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>>127311067
memefall melts mobs in one cast anyway, so by usinc conc over added fire you're just lowering your aoe
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>>127310967

enjoy getting resisted you gigantic faggot.

Chaos resist is almost non existent, physical resist is literally 0 at my damage level against any non-armoured affix mob.
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how many points are available now? like, at lvl 100.

also, should i drop crit and use controlled destruction if going poison SWT?
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>>127310875
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>>127311185
Yes, witch or shadow.
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D E A D
E
A
D
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>>127310875
>you
>reading comprehension

I said "optimise", not "replace". Part of the fun in PoE for me is forging my own builds and learning from my mistakes, but assuming it isn't a troll...

>that character name
>blood magic
>criticises my choices without explaining what's wrong with them
>talking shit about added fire when, short of the trap support gem, there are no other "more" multipliers for the physical damage on Bladefall I could take
>talking shit about opting for a further 42% physical damage for a spell that deals physical damage
>talking shit about getting physical damage on a spell with 120% damage effectiveness when Hatred and Herald of Ash exist
>Mentioning Eldritch Battery for no reason

10/10, you got me.
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>>127255249
Should i drop diablo 3 and start grinding this game or nah?
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>>127312081

come back when you can solo twinned t15 bosses with 40% damage taken debuffs without dying shitkid.
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>>127312517
>without dying
On Standard. kill yourself. it doesn't matter anyway.
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dont play until ascendancy so GGG will get worried and hurry up
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>>127312493
yes
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>>127312517
look mom i can deathzerg dominus in shitcore!!!!
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>>127312630
i'm playing ascendancy right now, and it's fucking great

>not playing as orfa so you can build on black squares
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>>127279210
>17k at 78
what the fuck are you doing m8?
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>>127312630
It will be early July no matter what we do
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what is a build relatively new players can do to ease into mapping and start building a bank, assuming they do the research to understand what to be looking for in terms of loot
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>>127279210
i have a shit build and shit gear and i have 27k reave dps at 78

ur doing something wrong bro
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how to make global babbies freak out
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>>127310875
>go to the forums and copy my build
you're profile is set to private, AmbushRacer.

>lvl 41 in a hardcore league
welp, not sure about those advices m8.
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>>127310875
>Vaal Pact with Blood magic
God that must be fucking annoying to play.
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>>127314964
i have a shit build and shit gear and i have 42k reave dps at 67 with a fucking self-found claw.

ur doing something wrong bro
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>>127315873
no 1 really cares
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>>127315768

how?

You leech like 3000 per second instantly, mana is never an issue, bladefall barely costs anything to use.
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>>127315670
waste of money
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>offer to buy some half decent boots without a b/o on the 3rd or 4th day of the league
>he calls me a lowballing faggot
>i explain why my offer is fair
>he tells me to fuck off

>searching for boots again today
>come across a familiar listing, check the username, it's him
>they're now listed with a b/o less than my offer

kek, wish he was online to be made fun of
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I'd love a invite to poeg, my IGN is Lyr.
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>>127317513
:D
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>>127316469
make a macro to try and send him a message every 30 mins
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What master is the armor evasion one?
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>>127319651
>Haku, the ARMOUR master

or do you mean vagan, as in, attribute allignment with armour and evasion?
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>>127319831
Sorry this whole master thing didnt exist when I last played, trying to figure out what I need to be able to craft decent evasion and armor gear until I can get acrobatics.
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>>127319952
haku

hes the black guy
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>>127319984
hes not black, he is a native american
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>>127320010
there's an America in PoE lore?
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>>127319984
thanks

does ele cleave still work?
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>>127320196
>melee

no

>shit skill

double no
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>>127320240
cool

guess ill cyclone instead!

:)
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>>127320196
it can work as in you can likely run the storyline progress with it just fine, if slower than with a good skill

however, there are much better choices for melee
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>>127320401
I've already tried Reave and I don't like it.
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>>127320010
guess again
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>>127320501
ice crash
sweep
vigilant strike+stun
dual strike splash
ground slam
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>>127320302
Lol cleave is better than cyclone now.

>>127320701
Literally the only good skill in that list is dual strike.
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can someone please post the poeg image with car hitting a wall and then desyncing?
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Is incinerate any good now, or did the shotgun removal completely kill its usefulness?
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>>127314624
Is ascendancy released fully July or half-year-beta-invite-jerk-off like with Awakening?
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>>127324010
first, it got really buffed after the shotgun mechanic change. Now with the newest patch, it received the GGG balance treatment, so it's in a good spot now :^)
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>>127324010
It was still very good three weeks ago.
2,1 gutted it.
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>>127324010
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>>127325054
choke on cocks
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>tfw rare +5 additional items armourers strongbox drops all whites and a single armourer's scrap
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Is there anybody on Tali HC with vorici 8 or are corrupted items just dead right now in terms of sockets/colors?
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Ethereal knives, spectral throw, or ele crit bow?
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>>127324758
Why does every skill in the game feel like shit to play now? And if any fun accidentally slips through the cracks they kill it instantly?

>the game was too easy before, we're trying to make how it should have been

That may be true, but how do you make a long term future for your game when it's a miserable experience to play from minute to minute? With every patch they made solo play more and more impossible. They will eventually make it so only no life streamers will be able to succeed.
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>>127324504
>It was still very good three weeks ago.
Kek. Incinerate cock sucker spotted. It was blatantly overpowered and there was hardly any reason to use a different spell because of how broken it was.
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>>127327891
I'm playing ice crash this league senpai.
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>bought near perfect Marohi Erqi for 3c a week ago
>ripped
>leveling same build
>Marohi Erqi now 15-50c b/o
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>Trying to play on EU gateways in lockstep mode during peak hours
I don't think I've experienced something more painful. At least this time I found myself dead after a lagspike. Good fucking riddance.~^~
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>pre 2.1
Smooth sailing, no laggs in parties, going to town is fine

>after 2.1
Constant freezes, lagg in parties because someone LEAVES the instance, running around in town with 20ms feels like I am on AUS servers

Great game Grinding Gear Gimps
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So i ripped my level 66 Arc Witch a week ago in a Vaal Dungeon.
I'm looking for some melee build, preferably with Duelist as I've never played one. What builds are viable for a really quick, at the cost of survivability, playthrough? What leveling gear should I get? I have around 20 CO to spend.
Or are melee builds currently not worth it at all?
Im not really into the meta yet as I just started playing again 2 weeks ago.
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>>127328516
maek t rapper win gaem
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>>127328072
same shit here, constant lag spikes making the game unplayable.
I was told by redditors that this is my fault and I should check with my ISP.
Pic related, it's my ping and speed with the Milan gateway. Clearly an ISP problem.
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>>127328516
cyclone was and probably still is the best melee skill
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>>127328516
melee doesn't do quick at the cost of survivability
you'll rip before 40 trying to do that
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>>127328616
Living in a third world country doesn't help.
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>>127328869

so what is pretty quick?
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>>127328005
>Marohi Erqi
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>>127328916
cyclone

followed by ice crash, reave, dual strike
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>>127327891
you mean like bladefall is now? and how flameblast was earlier? thanks to amazing ggg balance department there's always one terribly overpowered skill
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>>127328616
>>127328072

Finland here. I literally never have lag problems in Frankfurt or Amsterdam. Your ISP is packet lossy shit. Maximum Speed doesn't mean shit anymore since every ISP is above 10mb/s.
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>>127328990
>one shotting whole screen in 0.81s vs cycloning in a blue pack for 10 seconds

muh attack speed
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is it worth vendoring some decently high leveled maps (72) for one of the next tier?
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>>127329806
Pretty sure that's one of the best and only for sure ways to progress.
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I wanna start nolifing this game but none of my friends play it.
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>>127330460
Enter the /poeg/ guild, the "No Sporkers Allowed". We are all friends there!
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>>127330652
I don't believe you.
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>>127329358
>Do a WinMTR report to my chosen gateway
>It's absolutely, stunningly perfect
>Connect to PoE through the exact same gateway
>Unplayable latency shit
It's my ISP guys :))
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>>127330734
Wow, you did a traceroute and pinged the server and it responded. Your ISP losses packets like the Somali Postal Service. People had 30ms pings with 512kbps connections in 2000 without any packet loss, because maximum speed doesn't mean shit. Your ISP is shit.
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>>127331117
Shut up Chris your game fucking sucks just let us turn off the rain already fukn stuck up shit
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>>127314476
>>127314964
well it wasn't supposed to be a reave build (because reave sucks) but I'm pretty forced to use it for a while

and why did you not show your hp? probably a shit build like mine.

I'll just hang in there till 88ish and then it'll be all good
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>>127331664
It's 5:30 in New Zealand why would I even be up.
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is this just coincidence or is my instance messed up?
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Can Magic Packs get Unwavering? Because that will be a problem for me.
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>>127334091
it mean ur a faget
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>>127334109
Yes, they can.
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really though, ST, EK, or ele bow?
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>>127334091
Keepers of the Trove
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>>127334708
ele bow
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>>127334716
Are you dumb?
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>tfw self cast Discharge somehow works thanks to Vinktars
Thank you based Flaskfu
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>>127331802
>and why did you not show your hp? probably a shit build like mine.
Absolutely :)
Plus an Abyssus, Hatred and two heralds, just to get you mad. (no other buff though, there are limits to my dishonesty).
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>>127331117
WinMTR log packet losses you retard.
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>>127335046
you are kind
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>>127335532
Pinging always does, brah.
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http://poeurl.com/voL
guys I want to try crit dagger frost blades, I made this tree but I'm not entirely convinced. First, is 330% crit from the tree enough? and I only get like 115% mult. Second, I already grabbed spirit void to sustain it on mana, should it be enough or would I need essence sap too? Also, if I spend more points on pathing through meh nodes like nullification I can grab depth perception, is it worth it?
Also, which supports are people using with frost blades? I imagine something like chain multistrike and then I'm not sure if I should grab supports for the melee part (melee phys) or the projectile part (PPAD), or just WED.
Also, my planned auras are hatred and HoI CoH assmark
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>run Discharge
>every time I blow I freeze for half a second
Genius level coding, gotta say.
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pls gib funniest 2.1 rips i wanna see some bv lightning thorns hilarity
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>>127335101
Nice bullying.
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>>127336551
Check with your ISP m8.
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>>127337503
Are you dumb?
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>>127335157
self cast discharge is garbo

I haven't tried non-crit but it's probably even more shit
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>>127338210
No, i'm the smartest guy in the special class, my mom told me.
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>>127338780
Are you dumb?
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>>127338421
a) how did you play it
b) when did you play it
c) what is 'garbage' (inb4 everything worse than Vaal Spark :^))
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I dont understand the point of some vaal skills like

whats the point of vaal reave?
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>>127339232
Maybe read the skill and find out?

Vaal reave puts you to 8 stacks of reave, which you can maintain after it ends like a normal reave stack.
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>>127339232
snapshotting the stack amount and getting twice the aoe on regular reave
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>>127339383
but I can still only use it once until I get a charge back

ok bad example

vaal flameblast.
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>>127339476
Have you made it to maps yet? Once you get your build going together you'll be maintaining the vaal stacks at 100% uptime. It refreshes practically every other pack. And with reave you'll be killing packs fast enough that you won't even need to pop it often.
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>>127339476
Vaal flameblast is worthless. Same goes for vaal arc. Vaal stormcall and spark though, well, that's a different ball game.
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>>127339884
Explain to me Vaal Storm Call then. I can't repeatedly cast it like regular Storm Call
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>>127339962
It...It casts repeatedly by itself though.
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>Still getting PMs for a bow I sold over a week ago
Fuck off poe.trade
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>>127340346
update your shop nigger
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>>127339962
>I can't repeatedly cast it
which is the fucking point of vaal skills you retarded dumbfuck
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>>127340534
but the point of storm call IS to repeatedly cast it
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>>127340665
so? it's not storm call, it's VAAL storm call
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>storm call
>bigger aoe
>bigger damage
>no limitations

>vaal storm call
>less aoe
>less damage
>all limitations

maybe you guys are just bad
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>>127340665
please stop the bait it's painful
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Do people still care about quality gems on HC? Haven't played in a long time and just came back for Talisman HC.
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>>127340939
You run Storm Call as a boss killer you fucking retard. Jesus Christ. Kill shit with X, pop Storm Call with Increased Duration, Echo and Lightning Pen for tanky rares and bosses to kill them quicker. How is this so hard to understand?
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>>127341545
Anything below 20% is 1c, 20% is 20c :^)
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>>127340939
B-but it's vaal so it's cool and more rare!
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tfw ripped to crits

rng is fickle
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>>127343634
>hardcucks problems
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>>127343746
thinking about just playing this character for a while anyway, spent a lot of ex on it and the talisman mechanic is losing it's novelty

just a lame way to go, killed by a mob i've always killed fine then it just crits me too many times in a row
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>>127341545
you can always cube them so its fine
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which super cucks are the ones that are testing the Ascendancy? past donors?
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>>127343972
they're crits man. it's not like the servers killed you. you can bladefall your way right back to where you were in no time.
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>>127334091
What are you using to get your map in that little top right corner?
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I never noticed it before but why the fuck arent there any proper mana regen jewels? The regen rolls are fucking garbage and uniques are never not shit.
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>>127344506
the Options menu: UI.
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what happen at the end of the league with the hideouts? What if I already have one, will I have a choice of which to keep or something?
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>>127345547
the highest pimpiest stays.
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>>127345692
ah, excellent then
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>>127344672
plenty of regen off the tree. mana gain on hit jewels are useful early. elreon jewelry is useful.
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I don't even pick up talismans anymore should I just drop this league
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>>127346852
yes. See you when ascension comes out anon.
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>>127346832
What sort of logic is that. Theres also plenty of life on the tree, or general damage, or block, or basically anything thats found on jewels.

>elreon jewelry is useful
Not a jewel.
>Lmao Hits can be evades is useful XD
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>>127347264
what about survival secrets? 3 mana per second
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>>127347191
i'm not free, i'm just gonna drop talisman.

not like i have anybody to play with anyway
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>>127347517
you can play with me
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>never really cared about the dried lake meme
>always farmed piety until lvl 75 and always ended with enough maps to jump straight to tier 4
>decided to meme things up this league
>i'm almost lvl 80 and barely have enough maps to make three tier 2
Thanks /poeg/. blog out.
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>>127348841
just go and get +2s bro :^)
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>>127348841
>Piety to 75
Are you retarded
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>>127348840
might be nice to have somebody to run maps with, almost always played this game solo
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Hey, I just got to lvl 35 on my first character.
I want to make a hardcore tank/caster now though.

I just did my own thing on my first character without looking at guides, so I want to compare how I do with an actual build.

So what are some good tanky caster builds? It needs to get good early though because ill probably die otherwise.
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>>127328005
thats prolly in babycore

in hc they are still 5c at most
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>>127349410

what do you define as early? because normally, "early" is up to level 60. And most builds dont really come together until past that point.

imo get that char to 85, then youd have a pretty good idea of what you need to do to make a build work
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>>127349146
I probably overdo it but it's so easy, like 2-3 minutes to reach and kill her + lots of blue packs and getting a map almost every run is nice. uniques, lots and lots of uniques too
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>>127349943
I just want to make a hardcore character and not suck and die early.
I dont care about late game right now.
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>>127350239
seems like volls would be faster
do they have the same iq/ir boosts?
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>>127350239
>doesn't even drop brittle emperor
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>>127350494
85 aint "late game". that starts at 90

85 is where most of builds' hit a milestone for being done or almost done.

Any build we suggest you, you will build it wrong and die early, because you have never left that early stage in softcore. Just look up an hc build in the forums
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Does the lack of life on this ruin it, or is it still decent?
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>>127351290
dunno if youll get people to agree either way of seeing it (ruined or still good), but to me its perfectly usable
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i just resubbed to WoW desu senpai just an fyi im burned out on poe anyway so this is a formal psa if anyone cares
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I just saw the Aurora Borealis in Lioneye's Watch. What was that about?
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is elementalist as much of a noob trap as it looks?
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>>127267130
I feel pain just looking at this
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>>127351724
guild wars 2 is free you know
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>>127351737
Its some fucking firework I think,.
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>>127351724
>leaves dead game for undead game

dumb catposter
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>>127352013
>elemental damage
>12 all res
>5 chance to status ailment
Is calling is a noob trap as much of a meme as it looks?
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>>127351724
who the fuck are you and why should i care?
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>>127352013
>>127353308
the trap are the 8% nodes surrounding it
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>can't go melee because it's too slow
>can't go ranged because bow skills are all the same and dude wands lmao
>can't go caster because casters are worthless and no fun
I got nothing guise
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Would someone mind buying this piece of shit, I'm fucking tired of getting offers of mixed currency
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>>127275375
Just kill yourself anon ? Yellow mobs do not add two levels anymore. Only bosses do that.
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>>127354553
>can't go melee because it's too slow
Compared to what? Vaal Spark?

>can't go ranged because bow skills are all the same and dude wands lmao
Whats bad about being a WANDA WANDA

>can't go caster because casters are worthless and no fun
I dont think you have tried ur right
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If I rip in mid 80s on hc should I keep going on standard to know what the late game is like?
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>>127354935
Had one drop 2 days ago and just sold it for 2 ex + items. If I hadnt it would have been covered in dust, I know it. No way in hell this piece of shit is still worth 6ex.
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>>127351724
See you when ascension comes out. Have a good break.
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>>127355645
fuck no
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>>127351724
Good luck. Sounds worse than LoL desu tho.
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>>127356087
Never done it before though. I'm torn between hitting 90+ and starting a new character on this worthless and prematurely dead league.
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>>127353308
>lelemental damage
oh boy 10% elemental damage what a great use of a skill point!
>getting resistances on the tree
kek
>status ailment
ok this is actually alright but i mean there's gotta be more efficient ways to get it that fucking elementalist.
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>rip
>lose motivation to play
>still wanna play
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>>127356536
>there's gotta be more efficient ways
The amount of options that give chance to status ailment is small. So I rather spend 3 nodes to get Elementalist than to skill all the way into the clusters above the Witch which often eat up 10 points if you add travel nodes.

Damage and resistances are great additions. You dont get it because of it but I hope that youre not seriously implying that either is strictly speaking bad.
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>>127356627
No you didnt. You lost the motivation to relevel. I usually need like 3-4 days from 1-70 because I keep tabbing out and cant be bothered to continue. Like, usually its a difficulty a day. Just so goddamn tiresome.
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>>127357272
I don't mind levelling, it's dropping a build that already exists to either make the same thing or sit around not being able to choose what to do. Hardcore doesn't have the rush it used to for me and that's not helping either.
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is this game good/worth playing yet?
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>>127356627
>playing hardcore for free
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>>127357775
Always has been.

Best with friends though.
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>>127357829
i-i don't have any friends, anon
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>>127357775
>>127357829
>Best with friends though
Dont listen to this retard. ARPG with friends are the most ass thing in existence. Any other genre will give you a better experience.
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poe needs better competitive meta feels

i dont care if poe is competitive or not, the feel is all that counts
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>>127358230
I could play with you, I need something to liven this game back up.

>>127358303
Must suck being so lonely.
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>>127356627
>>127357272
Almost like hardcore is just a tiresome grind.
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>>127324010
self cast is ded, incin totem 8% damage loss
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>>127358482
>Must suck being so lonely.
Funny since I am sitting in VoiP with 4 people, yet I would never play ARPG with them because the genre is fucking ass in that regard.

Grouping in PoE
>one guy deals a lot of damage
>runs in front
>other follow
Basically results in no one having actual fun if youre not the run running in front. And that sort of 'we play together' fun you can have in any game. ARPG are by far the worst genre to play with friends. So please, piss off you handicapped nigger.
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should i get a max level before i play hardcore?
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>>127358665
What are you so angry about? You are sitting here spewing an opinion as fact for no reason. Calm down. I know plenty of people who can't even enjoy ARGPs without a group. Just because you get mad that other people get drops too, or that you do shit damage, doesn't mean others can't enjoy it.
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>>127358665
nobody believes that anybody could stand your mad ass for more than a second in voip
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>>127358814
>You are sitting here spewing an opinion as fact for no reason
Its not an opinion. There isnt another multiplayer genre that discourages group play as much as ARPG. And to be completely honest, there isnt even another game in the genre that does. Even TL2, D3 and shit like TQ has more group play mechanics than PoE. But youre welcome to find one.

>who can't even enjoy ARGPs without a group
Gee, I wonder if thats because of [insert what I literally said in my last comment].

>you get mad that other people get drops too
What
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>>127359105
It is actually 100% an opinion.

The way you zebrapost reminds me of the single most autistic individual I have ever had the disfavor of experiencing on 4chan. And the fact that you can't discern fact from opinion makes you seem even more like him.

I didn't realize poeg had a loranon of their own.
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