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Previous : >>127078112

>READ THE FAQ BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1v_nlKX3uS7cBXlWI45HSZJHqNQ6hyeqSOg-W9wAP9T0/edit

ToS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd
This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

>iCBT2 Survey
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/tree-of-savior-cbt-2-survey/124644

>What is Tree of Savior?
Tree of Savior is an action MMORPG with a lot of jewery, classes, cute hats and autism grinding. The game is out in South Korea with international release soon to follow.™

>Can I play the game now?
You can play the game if you have a verified Nexon Korea account, which requires a Korean Mobile Phone number.

>English patch for kToS
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/general-ktest-thread/124575/645

>kToS Details - http://tos.nexon.com/brand/20151208/index.aspx
- Translation: http://i.imgur.com/OS0JnpL.png

>Servers
- kToS - All day every day
Server : Vakarine (Upside down "A" in gookspeak)
- kTest - RIP in peace
- International - Soon™

>Official Translation Project - https://github.com/Treeofsavior/EnglishTranslation
Helping in the translation will speed up international release and remove unwanted machine-translated text.

>Field Boss/F.O.E Timers
- kToS Timer: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1X50XoEFxK4q10GmO9gU7izzUlw_C72Qr1fnRC6ou2wE/edit

>Discord chat for kToS players (Keep it ToS related)
https://discord.gg/0heefDqe35xjAfwD
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Death to Capitalism!
Death to Free Market!
All hail IMC!
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ded gaem
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this is not >>127253083
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>>127251572

Can't wait to see people only being able to charge 500s for a Shredded Piece of Cloth or Honeymeli stingers or basically anything
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4st for mergen
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Reposting Marxism.

>>127253272
>>127253225
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Hail Staff Kim_John Un
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>>127253442
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>>127253183
>>127253237
>>127253272
>>127253319
please do not insult IMC

the firing squad is already waiting for your kind
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Market is fine as it is.
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How are these prices ranges defined?
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>registered at reddit
>everyone is so polite to me, trying to get upbooted
>no one knows shit and feeds me wrong info
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>>127253875
RNG you can reroll for 298 TP
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is this game still a shitty grindfest?
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>>127254015
It's getting better week by week
By the time it's our turn to play it'll be just fine
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>>127253980
No but seriously, can anyone answer that? Please no meme answers
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>>127254256
We just found out about this stuff like what an hour ago, give it time.

>>127253935
hello reddit
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>>127254256
maybe
average of recent min-max selling price + some %

but tbqh no idea fàm smdh
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>>127254396
If it is indeed that, it doesn't sound that bad if you consider itens you put on the market go back to you after some time desu
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>>127254256
A multiplier of the silver value when sold to a merchant? Max limit being 10x or something.

Just a guess, I don't expect IMC to have put much thought into this.
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>>127254641
>want to sell material
>pain in the ass daily quest item
>0 in market
>HURRAY
>thats gonna be easy 20k. not much but hey
>limited between 100 and 2000 silver
JUST
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>>127254256
Ask in black desert thread. They have same market type. Its the new trend for gook mmos.
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Wait till you see how much arde costs. :^)
And any purple/red gear.
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I was going to look at the ipfs to see how it is set but I haven't patched in forever so it it taking a bit.
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Attempted to play TOS during ICBT2, used " moba style " control scheme also known as standard Ragnarok controls. Had a really shit experience playing Archer doing 8 damage normal attacks to monsters, help pls.
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I want to take advantage of Cattly and not-Cattly.
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>>127255141
Reroll Swordsman.
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>>127254786
If it's some dynamic price range (>>127254396) rather than a static one (>>127254668), it's just preventing people from selling overpriced shit, more lower priced items will appear. I'm guessing this further increases the competitivity of token users
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>>127255141
reroll any other class lol
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>>127255141
You actually have to think when you roll an archer
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>>127255141
>also known as standard Ragnarok controls
forget RO
this is not RO
this is not RO2
this is not RO2.5
this is not real RO2
or whatever
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>>127255285
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>>127253361
maybe this
http://tos.nexon.com/community/tosnotice/view.aspx?n4ArticleSN=98

google derps for me. dont rly get anything.
must be something recent. wasnt like that yesterday
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>>127255383
>>127255490
>>127255572
I was under the assumption Archers and Ninjas shit on other classes in the long run.

>>127255751
Are you telling me to buy a controller?
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>>127256197
>controller
woooh nope. that is even worse.
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>>127256197
>archers
In the long run m8. Its shit as a first character since you need to upgrade weaps.

>ninjas
????
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>>127255141
A lot of the archer drawbacks have been lifted, and now they have a really strong auto attack bonus, so they should be a much better experience.
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>>127256197
Bows and ranged archer weapon are missile, which means they got a penalty on middle and large sized enemies. This penalty is diminished by a certain percentage by each weapon upgrade. That alone means you shouldn't be so reliant on auto attacks, if you want that go Corsair or something.

I don't know which build you used for your archer, but you have to think about which one to use. What were your classes?
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>>127256197
>Ninjas
go back to >>127182730
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International better get here soon. I miss coupleposting and bullying couples for being cute.
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where do i grind as a lvl 20 archer2?
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>>127256578
>and now they have a really strong auto attack bonus
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>>127256578
Good to hear.

>>127256608
I was literally around level 25 fighting some winged demon event monster died 6 times and uninstalled
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>>127256790
you do not grind at 20
>>127250450
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>>127256676
> I miss coupleposting and bullying couples for being cute.
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>>127256676
Kill yourself.
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>>127256902

but what, if i'm tired of quests and wants to gain some levels by killing monsters?
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>>127257262
no
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>>127257262
>wants to gain some levels by killing monsters
lmao. you'll enjoy demon prison then.
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>>127256859
there's an attribute that gives bows +100% damage to airborne targets.
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>>127256676
Do a quick check at github TL for the english translation. When everything gets translated there, iToS will surely happen.
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>>127256676
Let's become a couple, then you can bully me for being cute.
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Kill yourself, trap.
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>>127258682
You're not me.
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>>127259035
That was meant to be lowercase, not uppercase.
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TL note: who cares
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>>127259818
I care. About you.
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>a bunch of people were banned for 3 days
>thread actually gets worse
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I was doing skill simulator on archer and holy shit I didn't know that quarrel shooter got buffed. Where are the patch notes?
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>>127260864
and
>threads about to die
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>>127260876
reddit
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>>127261119
im not going to that shit site mate

can you read them and make a vocaroo, if you are a girl or let your little sister do it if your not a girl?
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>>127260876
>Where are the patch notes?
Where have you been? You're supposed to read every post in these threads.
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>>127261432
The patch notes in the OP is not updated. Please halp.
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>>127261747
you can always see the skill info contained in the ipfs
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Koreans have good taste.
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>>127261119
link to reddit!?!
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>>127260876
either go trhough the notices on nexon site
(http://tos.nexon.com/community/tosnotice/list.aspx?n4pageno=4&n4pageno_old=3&n8index_blockstart_old=100 , probably earlier than the 29th) or use the kobt thread on tosforums
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>>127262103
>Neaon teaching lua pro hacks to KRs
>9001 more bans incoming
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>>127262152
>>127260876
http://tos.nexon.com/community/tosnotice/view.aspx?n4ArticleSN=42
http://tos.nexon.com/community/tosnotice/view.aspx?n4ArticleSN=61
For (You), my friend
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Open Beta FUCKING WHEN?
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>>127263905
next month
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>>127263905
Insider info, there's gonna be an announcement within the week on the forums.
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Can't wait for this cute mount.
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>>127260864
>banning on topic cuteposting
To what end
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Why must I pray twice at a statue every time I wanna teleport?
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>>127265178
So the Goddess can notice you, senpai.
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>>127265178
I don't mind the praying, the collection and adventure journal window bugs me more
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>>127265178
She deserves it
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>>127265178
Why did half my world map delete itself?
Why did party chat delete itself?
Why do I get the bonfire buff standing sometimes?
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>>127265904
I-it's just a RELEASED GAME.
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>>127265442
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This place is pretty nice if you want to grind some mobs at this level. As an added bonus, they give more exp than demon prison 1 mobs because of the wonky mob exp.
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>>127263905
The middle of December.
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>>127266239
They've increased the exp for 1-80 monsters, so that could be it. Expect an exp increase for higher level monster later on
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>>127266217
Anon you should send this to Maggi.
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How do I get the free items they send me in those messages?
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>>127266239
are you having fun?
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>>127266515
Click them and choose a character
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>>127266539
In short busts, this is kinda fun.
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>>127266515
Nevermind, can someone explain what these letters and red books do?
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:^)
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>>127266780
implying this quest is worse then 21 Cyst Needle
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>>127266689
>letter
no idea
>book
exp increase for some time iirc
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>>127266689
>>127266949
>letter
Dungeon reset.
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Is IMC trying to encourage player love stories with this new emote?
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>>127267326
No, kill yourself.
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Sometimes, I don't even regret going cryo/psychokino. But only infrequently.
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>>127267326
no
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>>127267326
Yes
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>>127267535
You should be the one considering suicide.
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>>127267773
for iCBT2 I went cryo>linker>kino. I had fun, but I always felt how slowly I could kill mobs, even in parties I felt useless. (I was focusing on pvp)
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>>127267823
I'm going to hold not-Cattly's hand!
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>>127268130
Psychic Pressure is incredibly hard to use properly since it's melee range but if anything hits you it cancels the channeling. It also costs 4.5% sp/second, which is absurd.
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>>127267773
If you had pp with stun you would crush with 1 skill use instead of 5.
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>>127268595
what are you doing for next rank?
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>>127268886
Unfortunately that's circle 2 only, and circle 2 seems like even more suffering. Is magnetic force even any good?
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>>127269106
I tested it out in the international beta, and it's shit.
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Archer / QS / Sapper2 / Wugushi / Falconer / Musketeer

How does this sound? I like the idea of a build based around setting up my own fortified machine gun nest.
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>>127269235
Does it put mobs together?
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>>127269564
Will the skills work with musket?
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>>127269564
Pavise seems nice but I don't know if it's worth going using a circle just for it. I also don't know which wugu skills work with muskets, or if it's even worth going wugu c1 at all
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>>127269821
I would carry a cheap sidearm for stone shot utility.

>>127269908
As far as I know Wugu skills don't use weapons, the animation is a blow pipe.
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>>127270131
if you don't mind weapon switching, then go for it. I'm personally archerc2-sapper c2, unsure if i'll go sapper c3-falconer-probably musketeer, if not cannon
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Any worthless failure loser NEETs who are good for nothing with tons of free time wanna be my healer in international!
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>mods actually looking at and responding to kOBT thread
Surprising.

https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/kobt-general-thread-keep-all-in-game-discussion-here/125464/1052
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>>127270840
Can you pastebin it?
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>>127270840
>I suggest that we refrain from doing missions until it's patched.
Honest and hardworking players here.
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>>127270496
I would, but I don't like your aggressive approach, you don't seem too faithful
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>>127270840
Motherfucking STAFF_John up in that bitch !
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>>127269747
The aoe is 2, so they have to be really close to each other already so it doesn't really matter, but yes it does.
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>>127271232
I am the most faithful, trust me!
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>>127255285
>>127268157
WTS super secret information about not-cattlys identity
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>>127272032
How much TP for that info?
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>>127272187
current offer is 9001 TP
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>>127272032
>>127272187
>>127272252
Who cares? I'm the one that's going to kiss him and I don't. I know what he looks like and I'm coming for him.
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I was gone for two weeks, is it just me or did they buff low level xp? Is this game more or less kill? What's this about a grand opening?
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>>127271232
Careful he starts milking some other guy behind your back
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>>127272187
>>127272252
bad memel
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>>127272612
They are increasing rates on lower levels slowly.
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>>127272612
The game's officially released in Korea and you can spend all of your honest money that you worked hard to get on TP.

They also buffed low level EXP.
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>>127272638
I am loyal, I do not know where you get the idea that I am not from!
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>>127272032
What is this piece of shit? Some chat? lol, Why dont you stay there?
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>>127273234
its reddit
4chin is more funny
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Here, Staff_John just emailed me a list of the new emotes planned for the international release. Thoughts?
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>>127273442
How much TP I wonder
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>>127273442
I want someone to do 10 to me!
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Has the game gotten better since CBT?
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>>127273742
it actually got worse
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>>127273442
I aint clicking on that image mait, how about you upload it on radical?
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>>127273101
I happen to be an expert on NTR, I can tell.
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>>127274984
Tell me what makes you think that then, love.
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Vakarine is the best goddess, she's the only one who's not afraid of doing the dirty work, she's a warrior, mother, sister, and daughter of the humans at the same time, She also cares for the beasts! She gave a chance to the demons! Vakarine didn't run when the shit hit the fan, she stood her ground and sent her own "personal valkyries" to fight the crisis. Yes, she made some mistakes but she was not afraid to admit it and dive into the problem to solve it with her own sacred hands, unlike the other shit useless goddess.

You really think that the other goddess didn't had any kind kupules? I'm most sure they had thousands of years to build a fucking host but noooooo, they were too proud of their selfs to care about the future, to really care about humanity. Only Vakarine and Laima really cares for your souls.
No wonder that she is the goddess that has a statue every 3-4 maps and you are allowed to teleport into it, if she wasn't that good, we would be fucked by now since the other goddesses didn't teach anything to the humans basides some spoonfeeding idiots, also, can teleport you too (see klaipeda goddess statue) but 1: they don't want to do or 2: they are very incompetent to make anything useful. Vakarine is the hardworking goddess, unlike her autistic sister who spent a millennium creating bees and guess what, as soon as the tree went crazy, the bees turned into monsters, while the kupules are here, protecting you!

Holy zaibas, how you can care about Gabija? She's the fucking goddess of fire, with the power of the sun herself and what she did? She stayed in the top of the mage tower doing the job that a HUMAN could do (even if that human was THE mage is a waste of the goddess potential) and sent a semenbird to guide you, instead of sending the bird or another other creature of her creation to do the fucking job. How she couldn't tackle Helgasecle on her own? FUCK off Gabijafags. Praise the real goddess.
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>>127273742
Everyone aside from angryposters are kinda holding their judgement for when iOBT is released.

It's pretty boolean though.

>Same payment model
Dead on arrival.

>Payment model that fits a incomplete MMORPG whose selling point is party fun and grinding, and whose cosmetics are extremely enticing and make people want to pay for them
Maybe it will eventually become good.

I don't have many hopes honestly. Unless they pull a Valve with Dota 2 with all the different cosmetics, Steam Workshop and whatnot.
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>>127275670

>Steam Workshop for Tree of Savior costumes

ARE YOU READING THIS STAFF_JOHN???? YOU BETTER FIND A WAY TO WORK WITH VALVE TO IMPLEMENT THIS SHIT.

GET TO WORK
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>>127275586
Has the age of goddessposting truly begun?
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>>127275670
>tfw angryposter
>tfw holding my jusgement for iobt, even though playing kobt
I really loved the concept of this game and despite glaring problems, the dev team has been trying to fix and balance the game. the only problem I have is with the market shit, but I guess they're working on it.

>Steam Workshop
only if the game goes big desu
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>>127276471

>lv 500 patch arrives
>end game content: war of the sisters
>choose your goddess
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>>127275586
Just wait until Ausrine shows up.
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>>127275586
>Vakarine is the hardworking goddess, unlike her autistic sister who spent a millennium creating bees and guess what, as soon as the tree went crazy, the bees turned into monsters, while the kupules are here, protecting you!
choke on a fucking dick m9. dont dare bullying muh waifu!
creating bees is serious honest hard work.
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>>127276575

>only if the game goes big

This is CURRENT YEAR 2016, the MMO genre has been stagnant/dying for the past decade. If IMC wants the game to 'go big' they need to 'do something big'. IMC could hand pick the best from the workshop every now and then to add to their cash shop.
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>>127275586
Here you go, you Vakarine lover
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>>127278982
What I mean is that valve wouldn't bother adding a workshop to a small game they don't own. Which non valve games have a workshop, EUIV?
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>>127279609

You never know senpai, Maybe Gaben played RO back in the day

A man can dream.
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I want Gesti to defeat me, rape me, rape me again, and then sheepishly ask me to be her boyfriend. Prove me wrong.
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>>127280901
>i want ....Prove me wrong.
how can anyone prove if you want that or do not want that.
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>>127281632
So you can't!
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>dealer looking for party
>mfw the dealer invites me
oh boy, that gonna be a hell of a trip
at least shes cute
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I can fap to this
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>>127283113
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>>127283113
>>127283315
>Pelta Slut
well not like that is a surprise
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>>127273234
>not recognizing Skype chat
Do you have 0 friends? I haven't seen a person as pathetic as you in a long while.
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>>127283315
>>127283113
I want a peltasta to do this with me!
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>>127283315
Anyone wih a special friend should save that image. There are a lot of couples out there who don't know anything beyond kissu.
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>>127266217
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>>127266924
Implying 21 cyst needle is worse than 18 short timber.
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I want a Peltasta leveling friend, who helps aggro all the mobs with her sex appeal to speed up our leveling. And to take breaks to have casual quickies with every so often.
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Is there any possible way to trade items with my friends?
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>>127284660
No, friends are impossible to make.
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I want an overprotective peltasta girlfriend who gets me drunk and takes advantage of me for wet, sticky lovemaking.
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This thread is getting out of hand
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>>127269564
Does Kneeling shot work with a musket?
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>>127266217
wrong pic
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>>127280901

Here is a leak of Gesti's theme song from IMC's upcoming Tree of Savior eroge:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c45a1WTr-wY

(Full disclosure: I was just looking for an excuse to post this and try to make it seem tangentially related)
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>>127283918
Oh yeah? Tell me then your best "friends" name and their favorite color.
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>peltasta girlfriend
>laughing anime girl levels of verbal abuse as she lets you wear yourself out on her manual block
>wraps her legs around you so all you can do is empty it all inside her
>when you've used up your SP she flips you onto your back and rides you
>calls you a pathetic excuse for a virgin revelator who has no idea how to please a woman
Who the hell would want this kind of thing?
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I want Gesti in a peltasta armor raping to bully my dick until I ahegao!
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>>127286103
>>127283918
but >>127272032 is not skype
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>>127286580
>raping to bully
Whoa
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>>127286331
Please do not post my picture along with that smut.
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Today's Tip: Right-click on another player to send trade requests.
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>>127287049
>>127286331
just shoop the hair blue.
not-cattly does not mind such naughty things
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>>127286580
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>>127287180
soon*tm:

Today's VIP-Token Tip: Right-click on another player to send trade requests.
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>>127283315

Does this look like the face of consensual sex to you?
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Oh look, american degenerates woke up.
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>>127283315
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>>127286331

>'doing it' with peltasta girlfriend
>about to cum, prepare to withdraw
>you're a young Revelator who has yet to save the world from demons after all, it's not time to start a family yet
>she notices you getting all hopelessly tensed up and uses Swash Buckling on you, taunting you
>you're past the point of no return and struggling your hardest to resist her taunt as she looks at you smugly, but it's no use
>accept your fate, overcome with a mix hopelessness and pleasure as you release every drop of Cold Monster Fluid you have deep into her womb
>once every drop is drained you limply collapse onto her
>she giggles smugly while embracing you and ruffling your hair

If there are people out there who would actually want something like this something must be very wrong with them indeed and I'm worried for their well-being.
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>>127289036
>woke up
>11PM
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>>127289036
Is cute/lewdposting haram in Europe?
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>>127289956
not yet

at 4chin it kinda is tho. im not gonna get 3days.. this time
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>>127289838
Swash Buckling is truly a great party skill.
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>>127286331
>>127289838
I come onto this thread exactly for this.
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>>127289175
>powerless
gets me every time
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>>127289036

Uhm excuse me but I'm canadian C A N A D I A N.

And I'm the original(tm) cute/lewdposter I've been at it since before iCBT2 started. Everyone else is just a big silly copycat, not that I have a problem with it the more the merrier
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I want a paladin girlfriend.
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>>127292827
I want to lure cute, pure Paladin girls into my Necromancer lair.
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>>127289838
>Join a dungeon party as a Cryomancer
>Trying as hard as possible to be cold and tsundere
>Hear suspicious sounds coming from the squire tent
>Peek through the flaps and watch them, hoping not to be noticed
>The Peltasta is about to make his Sticky Sap drop
>Suddenly, the Pyro/Linker comes up from behind
>Get linked to the lovers, and flooded with the pleasure of both of their climaxes
>Left lying on the ground ahegaoing in a puddle of melted ice
>TP the Pyromancer Master's house for revenge the next day
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>>127292827

>girlfriend

Paladins are pure and don't engage in that sort of degeneracy. You have to be bound in the contract of marriage.
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>>127293425
>Get linked to the lovers, and flooded with the pleasure of both of their climaxes
I didn't even think of that possibility.
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3 days without a patch?
Is this game even alive?
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>>127285901

Gesti in a miko outfit is very cute.
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>>127293987
Maybe Nexon is trashing the game after everyone got mad from cash shop.
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>>127293987
New years vacation anon, also weekends
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>>127253054
How does one contribute to the translation project? I just sign in and make a pull request for a file or line?

It feels like a lot of the simple clutter can be done with Korean --> Japanese --> English, and then applying proper grammar to it.
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I guess poison ticks at least don't interrupt channeling abilities. Also potato quality.
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Ice wall + psychic pressure skill combo is pretty neat.

What other classes and skills can combine like that?
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>>127296881
I think Monk had one with Deprotected Zone and Hand Knife. I didn't save the webm but it looked sick.
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>>127297037
Just looked it up. Looks dope af
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>>127293664
>>127293425
>Linking pleasure

It's brilliant. It's a masterwork.
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>>127297696
>Nevermind fixt it :)

Well? What is it? Come on, video games.
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Fweeeeeeeeeee~
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>>127300040
STILL DEAD
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>>127300040
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>>127301240
Thread will remain dead because all the NEETs killed themselves during the holidays
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Just come out for international already you stupid game!
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>>127303184
I JUST WANT TO PLAY
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Who should I blame for these abominable collections? If it's not clear, it's temple shooter card, 4 red orbs, and 4 blue orbs, one for each monster on the floor. 2f of the constructors chapel has one with Canceril and the monsters for that floor, and I wouldn't be surprised if 3f had a similar collection.
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>>127308456
THey're collectables. Not necessarily great upgrades.

The good ones are:
physical attack+
critical rate+
evasion+
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>>127308548
Most of them you can get while actually leveling though, or through a little extra effort. But then there's a few weird ones that would take weeks of grinding to complete if you didn't buy the items. The thing is that the ones that are incredibly hard to complete aren't any better than the ones that are incredibly easy.
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>>127308456
>>127308641
just you wait, they will put in collections that take cash shop items eventually
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>>127294473
>nexon
>able to do that
They're not the one who develop the game
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The limited market is terrible and doesn't make any sense. There's Corylus horns on the market as cheap as 2000, but the lowest I can register them for is 3076.
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>>127308908
This doesn't happen in other nexon games :^)
Good job IMC
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I got an example of exp penalty for monsters higher level than you. If I recall correctly this thing is level 78. You can see from the character level that going from 66-70 increases the exp value of the monster.
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>>127308908
This change is somehow even more retarded than removing trading.
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with the new market limit, how is the average price for vubb fighter bloods?
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>>127309648
My understanding is they made exp share range unlimited. Before if you were in a party with someone 10 levels above you, your exp was nerfed to the point of worthlessness. Now, you can share exp with a player of any range, but presumably to make it less desirable to leech low level characters in high level zones, you're penalized for getting exp from monsters that are much higher level than you. It makes sense in that context, and since you'd very rarely want to be leveling in a zone with mobs 10+ levels than you anyways it's not that big of an issue.

Even the market change technically makes sense in that context, even if they're absolutely terrible for users. Everything seems to be designed to prevent you from using the market to quickly and reliably get silver and items off of bot accounts. The random listing time prevents you from listing items cheaply and buying them on another account immediately to transfer the item, the price limit is to prevent using items to transfer large amounts of silver, and the delay to retrieve money is to slow down how fast money can move between players. As the above screenshot shows though, they'll probably just drive up the price of a worthless item and transfer silver that way.
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>>127308641
>The thing is that the ones that are incredibly hard to complete aren't any better than the ones that are incredibly easy.
Of course; it would be really stupid if a collection that took 400 hours of grinding was mandatory. They exist so autists who have to have every last thing will spend all their time.
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>>127309552
Wow what a dick move by IMC.
Why would they do this.

Penalizing good play...
The damage and defense penalities are enough in my opinion.

Heck, fighting higher level monsters should give bonus exp.
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>>127311354
As mentioned, it's most likely to prevent characters from being leeched in high level zones now that they removed party range limits.
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>>127311478
Can't they just code that in the party?
If you (a single player) has a party member higher than you by 30+ more levels AND are receiving exp from a monster more than 30 levels than you then reduce exp...
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>>127296775
Read the readme. There's also a discord chat for TLs but it's kinda dead.
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I want IMC and Nexon to stop destroying this game that I fell in love with please.
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>>127311823
Kill yourself.
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Anyone for 175 dungeons?
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>>127311919
Jesus anon. We're not as good as you.
175 already?
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>>127311858
Not yet
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>>127311614
You'd think so, but given how much is broken atm, I'm not surprised they've taken the easy road with this one.
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>>127312085
176. But i guess i'll wait for tosg to catch up. Also no healers in sight. I'll take a break.
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>>127311823

But the game was broken and half finished in the first place, IMC is working on fixing that. As for the cash shop kikery, have faith in the eventual international release on Steam.
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>>127312774
Honest to goodness I hope they consult on how to properly jew with Gabe.
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death is a destination we all share
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What would you say the translation rate is going at? 1% a day?

I think I'm going to jump in and help. I have a friend who is allegedly korean.
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>>127313692
You need to bump better than that to save this thread.

>>127313846
Do it. Search the "Live translation" project in github.
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>>127313846
>Latest commit by IMCgames 3 days ago
>Updated QUEST.tsv based on KOBT
I'd say 0% per day.
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>>127314037
Maybe they're just doing it in big chunks.

Maybe it's like, ten percent every Friday.

Maybe I'll go see if it's out in the next world.
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>>127314137
>1 Pull request
>TL github is dead
I'd say no.
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>>127313846
>>127314037
All the translators gave up on the game
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>>127314249
and now IMC has to jew the fuck of the Koreans so they can afford to pay for professional English translations. It's all the translators fault.
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>>127314307
>pay for professional English translations
They will just give up on international when that happens.
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Wait, guys
If this game dies

Who the hell is going to make all my ToS fanart and doujins. You're utterly useless IMC, at least get the game popular enough in Japan that even just 1 (one) good artist starts doing ToS doujins. Even better get all the nips still drawing RO to move on to the new hotness,

I'm at my wits end here.
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>>127315078
>tfw the general I left in order to play ToS (/mbgg/) gets more arts/doujins in a month than ToS will ever get in a year or two.
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>>127317614
Non-catlly exposed.
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>>127308456
3f is even worse
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>>127315278
>/mbgg/
Mabinogi general? You never left, the general left you.
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>>127320673
mobage general

>Mabinogi getting any art
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>>127320743
Mabogoo general had like 4 artist out of the 30 people that inhibited the dead general, an amazingly high ratio
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>>127321115
>art from shitty amateurs
we're talking about these kind of stuff
http://exhentai.org/g/888598/aee77ad32b/

>Fatalpulse will never draw ToS doujins
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>>127321326
Oh, you said arts/doujins, we only had like 1 doujin artist in our general.
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>>127321326
>wanting literal memeartists to hop on tos

I bet you like mil too
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>>127321326
>Asanagi fuccboi
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>>127321734
Better than no artist ever.

>http://www.pixiv.net/search.php?s_mode=s_tag_full&word=TreeOfSavior
>http://www.pixiv.net/search.php?s_mode=s_tag&word=グランブルー
just sad.
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worth it to buy the token?
How does it work? do i get to keep it in case i want to use it later? or activated on purchase?
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>>127322178
>>
hi
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>>127322178

MMOs are dead desu, meme mobage are popular now instead. Even now there's some hype of Blade and Soul being released soon but I guarantee it will be dead within 1 year.

Only thing that can revive MMO genre is VR desu senpai (soon)
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>>127322178
not bad desu
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Is the patcher down? I can't launch it anymore. Just gives me a blank error message and then a white square window.
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>>127323605
Nevermind, the patcher got patched.
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>>127323258
>Only thing that can revive MMO genre is VR desu senpai (soon)
Only thing that can revive the MMO genre is a non shit social MMO
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Guess I'm considered an amateur artist
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>>127325347
post drawings
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>>127322178
>korean game
>pixiv

Next time you search chinese game on pixiv too
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>>127323258
MMO are alive desu
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>>127326149
Is maple story 2 even good?
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>>127326524
awful
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>>127326524
It's beyond shit
Doesn't even look cute for the 3D chatroom it is
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>>127326149
What i can play then senpai?
I like theorycrafting and playing with different builds, ArcheAge was so much fun for me in alpha and beta but jewing killed it.
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>>127326149

hm, maybe I'll download ms2 and try it
>no translation though
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>>127326987
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>>127327076
tria.tv
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>>127326987

>theorycrafting and playing with different builds

Not truly a MMO but have you played Path of Exile?
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>>127326987
the 15th starts new diablo 3 season
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>>127327215
I tried to get into PoE, but seeing that certain skills just completely dominate the game kind of ruins it for me. Diablo 3 seems better than PoE now.
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>>127327358
Gee i wonder what class will dominate meta this time.
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>>127326987
XIV
But can you afford it?
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>>127327716
Already played, while it was pretty fun to progress throu the story, there is really not much to theorycraft about.

And the PvP is kinda strange.
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Kind of getting my ass kicked as Cryo/Kino in Tenet Church.

Do I have to party up? I kind shit fast but the mobs giving me troubles.
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>>127327884
Kill shit fast*
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>>127327884
git gud.
Try to get your channeled psychic pressure first as a skill.
Icewall + psychic pressure can clear a room easily if you play it right.
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Reasons why Vakarine is the best goddess #147: Hair.

Vakarine is so popular and adored in the ToS World that lots of young girls aways wanted to look like her, and guess what! She taught the humans how to make a comb like her's divine style and this is why you can make a revelator character with Vakarine's hair for free. Oh and the other goddess hair? Heh, prepare your wallets, maybe you'll find their style on the nearest TP jewshop.
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>>127325536

well what's a korean equivalent website then?
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>>127327884
learn patience you must
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>>127328363
>giraffe neck
No thanks.
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>>127328368
I don't want to tell you
Its a dead game there
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>>127286103
Matthew and blue.

>>127286620
That's the joke.
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>>127328363
Okay /tosg/, which wing has better animation?
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>>127322178
The only hope for ToS art is paint drawings
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>>127328010
Whenever I use psychic pressure I get knocked out of it.
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>>127331407
>gitgud
Isn't it why you are a cryo with icepike?
Freeze them first then use psychic pressure.

Improve your mobbing.
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>>127331407
you have chosen a path of suffering
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http://tos.nexon.com/community/tosnotice/view.aspx?n4ArticleSN=98

what the fuck are they talking about here?
>>
If a full con linker uses umbilical cord on his party, do they need to heal the new amount of hp? or do they get an amount of hp proportional to what they had?
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>>127332704
The former, probably.
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>>127332704
They need to heal
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>>127332704
I had a party mate that went Linker 3.

Yes. It is the former.
You need to heal the new amount of hp.
Which is actually easy to do if you have a cleric2 or a priest mass heal.
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>>127332754
>>127332956
>>127332962
Thank you
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>>127332962
>cleric2
Do we really need cleric2 now, for party healing?
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>>127332704
The former, unless the cleric tops it off quickly kinda useless really.
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>>127333185
t-thank you too
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>>127333141
That will really depend on the 2 star and 3 star maps on lvl 200+

Right now everything is doable with only cleric 1 heal joined with priest mass heal and revive.

If the difficulty spikes a bit more then cleric 2 might be a must for supports.

You can take it anyways even as a rank 6 or 7 class. The scaling of the heal and saferty zone is just that good regardless of rank taken.
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>>127332704
>>127332956
>>127332962
I hope this and transpose get fixed/balanced as of now these skills are not worth it
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>>127308641
>weeks
Thats very optimistic.
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>>127333141
It's twice as much heals.
But technically with dualcast C1 gives 1 tile per party member in the guild dungeons.

Basically just a fresh thing so people give it more attention. Not saying it's not, but it's not mandatory. You only need C2 Cleric for the 10man content, so it's easy to fit one in.
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>>127333382
Nah I think it's ok. Imagine this shit in PvP.

It's good senpai.

Even in World Boss hunting. The umbilical link lasts like what a minute?
That's enough to heal then face tank.
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>>127333141
It'd help but I highly doubt it's needed.
And given the apparent rarity of healers even if it was needed I don't think most parties would have the luxury of choice to turn you down for lacking it.
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>>127333429
>You only need C2 Cleric for the 10man content
Which isn't out yet.

With mass heal, healing factor and if Chaplain has a new healing skill, Cleric C2 wouldn't be needed at all
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>>127334147
Healing Factor will be nerfed hopefully. Though Cleric C2, Bokor C3, Pardoner C1, Plague C1 could be a cool build.
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>>127334248
>Bokor C3
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>>127333520
30 second, 1 minute cooldown last time
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>>127334132
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>>127334132
what about americans?
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>>127323258
>Blade and Soul being released soon
Its a 4 y/o game nigga.
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>>127334147
>>You only need C2 Cleric for the 10man content
>Which isn't out yet.
Except the 280 guild raids are.
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>>127330819
>spending 13 hours to make that shit up
>>
this game is so fucking shit
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>>127332704
>full con linker
retard
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>>127330923

Bakarine, obviously.
>>
I don't think I can live with C1 Cleric anymore after going Cleric C2. Most of these pubs are retarded as fuck and they need all the heals they can get.
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>>127335195
Not really, if a linker is c3, chances are it's a support linker and those tend to have no use for int investment.
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>>127335253
That's not a proper answer.
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>>127334786
>Do you know gangnam style?
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>>127335335
Yes, you are. BAAAKA
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I miss that lovely memes out! miko
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>>127335717
I like that song desu
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Attendance event, goys.
http://tos.nexon.com/events/20160107/index.aspx

Translation: https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/kobt-general-thread-keep-all-in-game-discussion-here/125464/1075

And for all you memers; http://pastebin.com/zDiVSe0c
You can fuck off if you ask me to upload this anywhere else.
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>>127335030
Tell me more about them :^)
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>>127335759
don't be mean senpai
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>>127336067
>And for all you memers; http://pastebin.com/zDiVSe0c
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>>127335717
Its like the first thing these gooks ask to any gaijin ingame
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>>127336067
>Daily login bonus
They're going to add gacha at this rate
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>>127336067
>And for all you memers; http://pastebin.com/zDiVSe0c

Thank you, Anon.
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>nerf orange lizardmen
>rambear archer keep on spamming spiral arrow
this is not ok
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People seemed hype for monks in icbt2, but now nobody talks about them. Did they turn out to be shit?
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>>127337083
>Did they turn out to be shit?
Yes.
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>>127336242
You're not gonna be special snowflake mait, randoms dont give a shit about your 30 sec buff with average stats. Moreover you're going for full autism package being literally no damage. I've crossed paths with 3 different c3 linkers and they're all useless shit, right nagi?. And now that linkers don't have x2 on aoes, you're even more petty. Also, check this image out, it's a hint.
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>>127337191
How so?
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>>127332684
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>>127337710

They are good for pvp, also, kamehameha requires levels in gitgud, so /tosg/ who's more casual than reddit claims that they are a bad class, like cryomancer, archers and etc.
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>>127335195
It's for my epik trolling build where I go full CON and kill my party memebers by taking as much damage as possible.
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>>127337710

They are awful. All their skills not only have tiny AoE range but knock mobs all over the place without any option to turn off knockback. Kamehameha is the only decent skill

Maybe they're better in PvP but for PvE they're one of the worst rank 5/6 classes in the game
>>
We ded yet?
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>>127338312
Then you get kicked from the party and can't link them anymore.
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>>127340796
yes
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Do these daily quests change every day?
I got this quest where you need to collect 90x crystal fragments. Pretty easy.
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>>127342707
Rip. I thought I just to need to collect 90x5, then the fucker gave me actual hard quests after turning that one in.
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Accidentally sold a weapon I needed to an npc...how do I get it back out. I see it there on the bottom
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>>127344162
Reverse time to iCBT2.
They removed buyback in release since people were using it to resell untradable things.

>IMC
>lazy bastards who can't code for shit
pick two
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>>127336349
oh. they ask me where im from and how old i am. if they bother writing english.
but maybe thats cuz im char is a qt girl and not some gax fuccboi~


>>127344162
you can not. buy-back was removed too.
thanks imc
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>>127336067
Day 20 will be a cute hat.
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>>127344785
>a cute hat.
Yes we need more hats, way more, some glasses and moustache. And tails too, fuck wings tho
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>>127345471
There should be Back slot - wings, capes, tails, backpacks, etc.
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>>127345762
>wings
Pls no, it sounds good on paper but goes our of control fast.
Cute fem Wizards with squirrel tail and ears would be good.
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>>127346158
>no faggot shit
>except my faggot shit
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>>127344162
Thats what you get for testing beta for int. Get fucked kid fufu~.
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>>127346464
>faggot shit
I think you are in wrong general senpai.
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>>127345762
>tails
2furry4me
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I want a cute fox tail to go with my cute fox ears!
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>>127347640
Would breed.
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>>127346158
As long as it's one slot for all of those, it won't be bad. It'll be easy to tell who's a shitter.
Edgelords will go for capes, furries will go for tails, and faggots will go for wings.
Backpacks will be the patrician choice and indicator of good party member.
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>>127347640
Is this Hauberk's sister?
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>>127349358
That's post-op Hauberk.
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>>127349358
No that's just the form Hauberk takes to earn the trust and favor of young, male revelators.
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>>127349539
>>127349553
BRO JOB ! BRO JOB ! BRO JOB !
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>>127345762
>>127348019
I don't see this happening when even something like a simple armband can fuck up so hard.
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>>127349539
>post op
icon_cler_SwitchGender.png
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>>127350057
then you have to make the decision:
>be cute but bugged
or
>be uncute but no bug

>capes
>TP no longer recharge

>tails
>loading times 10x longer, get stuck often at loading screen

>bagpacks
>disconnects every 10-20 minutes
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>>127347640
>IMC adds another "costume" type item that is spheres
>spheres change your race, giving you different skin color, facial structure and whatnot
>can be put with any costume
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>>127350376
What if I switch girls to boys and kiss them? Then if they want, they can go back to being girls, I guess.
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>>127350459
We're cute enough without pay2getkek'd
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I hope we start getting patches every day again. It was the only thing that gave me hope.
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>>127352153
Maybe IMC finally unchained the developers from their workstations.
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>>127352284
No, I think they managed to get the wild cats out of their office. Damn things kept stepping on keyboards and such.
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>>127351093
>onion slut outfit
lewd
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>>127352153
Developers are also people m8, guess they like to celebrate new year and have some days off. Hopefully we go back th these frequent patches
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Threadly reminder that this is what happens to your character when they kiss too much.
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>>127352284
>>127352491
If I remember right they weren't really adding anything with those patches, just tweaking values and added some things to drop tables. That would have hardly been much work at all.
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>>127352653
it's still time consuming and was improving the game regardless of how much work these patches had behind them
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>>127352797
The drop tables would have been tedious but values on class abilities and the like would have been pretty damn quick.
Yes, it's improving the game regardless of how much work. That's why I want more of them. I'm just saying they weren't "chained to their desks". Out for new years or Christmas is reasonable, of course. Most of the time spent for those changes would be convincing the dark wizard to drop another soul in the brazier so IMC could think long enough to buff Cryo and Archer.
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>>127352525
>Pink hair
Whore
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>>127351093
me on the left, kinda middle left
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>>127353295

I'd be more concerned about the disfigured face than the pink hair.
also cow ears
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Any NEETs with lots of free time wanna be my healer friend in international?
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>>127354195
no go away
>>
anyone around to awake my D?
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>>127256801
5) Missile attacks on the enemy reduces physical defense by up to 50% ( 1 stack/ hit = 10%)
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>>127354562
by the time you've hit the enemy this many times with autos, you could've killed it already with skills. It is bretty good with stronger enemies like bosses, I'll give you that
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>>127354485
Please do not be mean, I just want a friend to play with.
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>>127354523
*my dagger. i mean my arde dagger
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>Nexon is doing everything in their power to kill the game for short term profit in Korea
>International translation had one line done four days ago
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>>127355041
Okay guys, time to pack your bags and go back to your previous generals.
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>>127355041
iOBT soon
>image of ded chinese cartoon boy

>>127355282
one of them is ded. other full of aids
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I can't take it anymore. If there's no date by tomorrow, I'm going to end it.
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>>127355787
Nuu Anon...
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>>127355787
ok
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>>127355041

It's over.
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>>127355787
I'll take you out on a date, anon.
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Day 1 - 5x Resurrection Crystals
Day 2 - 5x Concentrated HP Potions
Day 3 - 1x Dungeon Reset Scroll
Day 4 - 1x Experience Tome
Day 5 - 1x 10 TP Gift Token
Day 6 - 5x Resurrection Crystals
Day 7 - 10x Concentrated HP Potions
Day 8 - 2x Dungeon Reset Scrolls
Day 9 - 2x Experience Tomes
Day 10 - 1x Dragonfly Armband
Day 11 - 5x Resurrection Crystals
Day 12 - 15 x Concentrated HP Potions
Day 13 - 3x Dungeon Reset Scrolls
Day 14 - 3x Experience Tomes
Day 15 - 1x Skill Reset Potion
Day 16 - 5x Resurrection Scrolls
Day 17 - 20x Concentrated HP Potions
Day 18 - 5x Dungeon Reset Scrolls
Day 19 - 5x Experience Tomes
Day 20 - ???
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>>127355787
here's your date: >>127258085
in short, never.
just play kTOS.
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>>127356257
>Day 20 - ???
Free bans.
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>>127356257
Reminder that if you're like me and hate your current hair you can get your free hair change at Day 5 (10TP gift + 5TP recharge).
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>>127356257

Day 20 - DATABASE
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>>127356257
Day 20 - iOBT announcement
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Are priest revives still useless because you can just pay2rez?
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>>127356906
saw some KR cleric dudes use it in the 130dung. kinda neat skill

2TP for each ress sux
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>>127356906
Yes.
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>>127357015
If you die you deserve to get your TP drained.
I won't ever beg for ress and will just ress myself.
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so how's this event anyway? a log-in presence event?
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>>127356906
No.
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>>127356906
The Revive buff was never useless.
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>>127356906
Isn't pay2rez kind of detrimental if things like GvG exist?
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>>127358724
I don't think Nexon cares.
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>>127354164
Eitherway it's a whore.
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>>127358981
>Can't win a guild vs guild confrontation because the other team dumped hundreds of dollars into instant resurrection cash shop items
>inform Nexon
>Why didn't you guys just buy crystals too? I mean come on, it's 2016!
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>>127359761
>>127358724
doesn't matter when all your equips become red
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>>127359946
Remove equipment penalty by buying the gold orb rez item! Available now for 3 tp
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>>127359946
It matters when you and your twenty friends need to be killed four times in a row for that to happen.
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If this was a Japanese game it would have been translated in 3 weeks. Who the fuck knows Korean?
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>>127360449
kPop fangirls
but they probably don't play MMOs
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>lvl up to 46
>exp bar immediately goes to 76%

what the fuck is wrong with this game.

>add points to SPR
>magic attk shows going down in green letters
>try INT
>same thing
>add points
>nothing changes.
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>>127361256
just went from 76% to lvl up after killing 4 mobs.

the fuq
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>>127361256
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>>127361256
exp curve reset

not sure about the second thing, visual bug?
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I've put more thought into theorycrafting for a cutesy korean kike factory than I have for anything in my real life and career!
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>>127361256
>>127361453
Yes, it is just a visual bug
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>>127361256
its just a released game
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>>127361423
>>127361453
>>127361827
Thanks, this game is so fucking retarded with a lot of shit
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>>127358724
>>127359761
>>127360157
>>127360191
>GvG
remember lads:

- the opponent has accept the GvG
- there are 0 rewards
- also no positive effects (buff,ect), but negative effects (get rekt while questing/grind)

dont expect to have many GvGs. like noone will do them.
also this (and most other) mmo is full of pve carebears
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>>127362561
0 rewards? oh shit. I was looking forward to it
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>>127362919
enjoy your 1 gvg per week, if you are lucky. and prolly vs weak 1shot suckers

this is just no "pvp game"
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>>127362561
I miff the times when the competitive PvP was the thing in MMOs, not some minigame.

>go back to moba or FPS then
Give me back my Exteel then. I fucking miss this game.
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>>127363082
- we got "Friendly Duel"
- no thief or assassin classes
cuz imc said in some interview they want a nice and friendly game

pvp/gvg is not nice and friendly
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>>127345762
>tails
I don't know about this...
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>>127363457
buttstabbing and poisoning people is friendly?
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Are there any Pardoners selling Sacrament yet?
Would make leveling and mission grinding so much easier.
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>>127363623
yes
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>>127363903
Give me money to train the duration attribute and I'll give you buffs for free!
>>
Couple emotes soon!
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>>127358724
>>127358981
>>127359761
>>127362561
Dont be retarded, you dont know yet what will or will not become of it.
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Keep getting animation lock into Psychic Pressure until it drains all my SP. Can't move or do anything. Just stand there getting womped.

Any sure fire way to get out of it?
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>>127365732
Its still there? ayyy
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>>127365204
hmm true.
but dont expect "awesome pvp/gvg/pk" in "just another mostly-casual asian pve grind and dressup game"
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>>127361827
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>>127366610
muh dic

>tradeable class costumes for all class in tp shop when
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>>127366112
yeah, just another mostly-casuall asian pve grind and dressup game never have gvg/pvp.
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>>127367456
>ever have
some have. and often its shit

>muh RO
oh yeah, fuck off nigga
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>>127367838
>I AM TRIGGERED

Forgot to spoiler and add "autist triggering picture" trigger warning.
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>>127368017
sir, please do not forget that next time, sir
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>>127366112
I wouldve agreed with you except they already had implemented certain cc skills aimed for pvp.
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>>127367456
>.....game never have gvg/pvp.
i did not say that

and >>127367838
>some have. and often its shit
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>>127368376
Name a skill that doesn't have any use in pve.
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>>127368557
Stone curse.
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>>127368745
>CC has no use in PvE

Nigga what are you smoking?
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>>127369016
Alright, show me then a retard who would put at least several points in stone curse (skill with 82 sec cd and max 8 targets) instead of damaging ele skills and use it in pve instead of simply casting sleep (unlimited targets and 25 sec cd).
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>>127369643
>sleep
>unlimited targets

Is this a new meme I'm not aware of?
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>>127368376
>implemented
things implemented in a beta does not mean they will ever be used. and not only in mmos.
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>>127369765
So you have no idea what youre talking about, yet you still argue.
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>>127369765
>Wiz3 being OP
Thats old news senpai.
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I like how people get triggered by RO.

Ragnarok Online Ragnarok Online Ragnarok Online Ragnarok Online Ragnarok Online Ragnarok Online Ragnarok Online Ragnarok Online
Hey /tosg/ wanna hear something funny?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KunVzukKBo

You got some RO, uh, absolutely everywhere. Shoulda stick with /wowg/ I guess, mean IMC making you have to grind all day.
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>>127370005
Yes, I've noticed Magic Missile being turned into something useful.

But when did 15 targets = unlimited targets?
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>>127369813
So youre saying they will trash pardoner and compeletly rework plague doctor then. Why did they even add all those cc removal skills? Those retards.
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>>127369643
Why would the number of skill points invested prove a skill is useful or not? That's implying all the "one-point wonders" are useless.
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>>127370030
>handful of things are similar to RO and also similar to things in dozen other games.
>that means this game is RO
ikr

>FarmVille
we facebook now
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>>127370548
I think that there is no way you can consider skills with retarded cd as pve oriented.
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>>127370249
no
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>>127370937
>retarded cd
Bosses are PvE too.
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>>127370937
I think that there is no way you can consider "not pve oriented" is the same as "doesn't have any use in pve".
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>>127370741
>same devs
>trying to do the same thing after getting kicked out of gravity for their incompetence
>while failing hard

whodthunk
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>>127369643
Sleep doesn't last 25 seconds, so you can use both in combination. Sleep has a long casting time, which is the reason nobody uses it. The ele1 damage skills are weak enough that nobody takes ele1 alone. You don't need to max them all. I haven't seen stone curse in action, but if I interpret its description optimistically (you can laugh at this point) it would be good for things like soloing dungeons.

>>127370249
They already trashed pardoner. Plague doctor hasn't really been tested, so why would you expect them to get it right on the first try after they had so much trouble with other classes? CC removal skills are there for parties where your party members don't have dispellers, or in case they add bosses with CC's dispellers don't work against.

>>127370937
Having a long cooldown makes something more pve oriented. A zero cooldown crowd control is the ultimate pvp ability, and pve battles last longer.
>>
teardown literally has an attribute for fucking austras koks famtachis
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>>127328363
why everything in this game looks so sad/emo and edgy. Also washed out colours.
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>>127371661
>Sleep has a long casting time
Hello reddit.
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>>127371661
>Having a long cooldown makes something more pve oriented
Not really. It just means it has a long cd
>>
Ravioli ravioli translate the internationoli!
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>>127371661
>Having a long cooldown makes something more pve oriented
Yeah imagine those pyros grinding with firewall and pillar.
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>>127371903
Go back to reddit. Nobody uses your shit site.
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>>127371661
>Sleep has a long casting time

It's almost instant, you simply need to target where you want it to happen and it's done.
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>>127372009
can you translate this into english or korean please?
>>
They buffed Archer and Cryo because those were the classes that were complained about non-stop. They aren't going to buff anything else like half the Wizard tree, Dievs, Paladins, etc, unless we do the same. So let's all throw a fit about balance while we wait for international, not like we have anything else to do.

Sorry Bokor/Sadhu. You aren't getting buffed for months. Your nerfs came from you being actually good, so complaining won't work
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>>127372648
Pelt/Squire buff when?
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>>127372648
Honestly i feel they don't even understand why the balance is fucked up to begin with, as proves base cleric being infinitely better damage dealers than base wizard.
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>>127371982
It can be used more than once in pve. In pvp get gets removed and stays on cooldown for the rest of the fight.

>>127372160
Explain how firewall and pillar are good pvp spells.

>>127372401
That reduces the duration. If you're going to claim they changed it and the casting bar is there for no reason, find the patch notes.
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>>127373008
>implying anything can outdamage earthquake
Wizard is literally futureproof.
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>>127370030
> ITT people who think /tosg/ is triggered by RO only played on private servers.
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>>127373008
It's their mentality with the whole situation. They're looking at it from a perspective of everyone having a designated role, you picked the class for a reason and so you will fulfill that role. It makes perfect sense on paper and it's why Clerics all have some kind of support mixed with the ability to do damage, their role is assisting in party play, to do that they have buffs and heals but since there are only so many skill points they also do damage.
Wizards are meant to be damage dealers OR utility support. They can choose between (not) being high damage dealers see: Ele, Pyro, Sorc or offering group support along with utility spells that have varied effects, see: Linker, Thaum, Chrono.
So this all makes sense. If I picked Chrono it's because I want to buff niggas and turn back time and shit. Okay. They fail to realize how these classes blend together though. With the circle system and the potentially tedious leveling requiring a class to choose between damage or utility while offering the other both is just fucking insulting. There is a similar problem between Swordsman and Archers but it isn't so black and white, and I don't have much experience with them so I can't really say much.

I like the idea of having classes have roles and adhering to that, but they need to understand that some flexibility is required for, you know, FUN
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Hey tosg,

I've been away for quite awhile last I played was the beginning of eng closed beta, when players were just starting to figure out arde dagger was good.

How different are things now? Any big changes? Mechanics? Class stuff? Meta game discovered? I played monk personally but I like hearing all big class changes.
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>tfw Flamaye isn't playing the korean version with you and all the Kims in the world fail to satisfy you
International when, IMC?
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>>127373885
To add to this I feel like the people responsible for different classes didn't communicate with each other much.
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>>127374297
Cryos and Archers recently buffed. Still not amazing but less suffering. Bokor and Sadbu nerfed, both on par with the average Wizard class now. Swordsman generally left untouched but I think there were minor buffs because IMC headquarter walls were freshly painted and the place isn't well vented. Oh and Linkers nerfed in an actual reasonable way, probably a glitch.

Trading disabled, market is nigh useless. No one has any idea what they're thinking and we all want to die.
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>>127374631
>Archers not amazing
are we playing the same game?
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>>127354730
obv, bosses are also the only ones wich you would actually notice a defense reduction.
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>>127373263
I was tap casting it for full duration all icbt2.
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>>127363108
open world guild wars are not competitive pvp
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>>127374308
Please stop. Pios is dead.
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>>127373263
>Explain how firewall and pillar are good pvp spells.
One skill makes every retard run in opposite direction. Another skill is supposed to immobilize, but you cant check if its not working properly. because John is a fucking retard.

Also, thats not what you said, you shitty gook,
>Having a long cooldown makes something more pve oriented
Explain how firewall and pillar are good pve spells.
>>
I really don't like how IMC is holding back Swordsmen by making heals Cleric exclusive.
They have to improve HP regen AND give swordies some lifesteal abilities, or add a lifesteal talisman.
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>>127376707
Do we play the same game?
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>>127376707
>still no Diablo 2-like items with effects like "10% chance to cast Heal 5 after blocking an attack".
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>>127376707
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>>127345762
>backpack
Can't wait for them to place in a red randosel elementary backpack.
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>>127377060
Everyone who bought randosel backpacks get registered as sex offender and banned from the game.
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>>127376293
>Explain how firewall and pillar are good pve spells.
You can make mobs stand in them. You can't make players stand in them. Therefore, they're pve oriented.
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>>127376707
They should make swordsmen lose 1HP per second to promote teamwork.
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>>127344162
>He doesn't lock important items
This is what you get for being a baka.
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>>127374631
Is it just 4chan negativity or is it really that bad?

And any other big changes? Mechanics or exp? What's endgame looking like? Pvp?
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>mmosite awards
>championship round
>korean mmo with huge problems vs korean mmo with huge problems

Haha
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>>127376293

Pillar is good, nice dps and lock the mobs.

>cooldown is too high

Yeah, but it's worth the spell, i mean, you do the big pull into the firepillar and the mobs are dead, it's great for party spell rotation, you see? You burn your firepillar now and in the next big mob i'm going to drop my pressure wall.
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>>127377560
>What's endgame looking like?
>endgame

hahahahaha
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>>127376910

Ofc we have. OR at least we had. Some of these amulets that you can put on your shield or offhand dagger had effects like this. Not exactly the skill Heal, but i remember on that had a chance to proc a decent heal and other that was really good who did a debuff on enemies with some nice chance after you blocked some attacks (even with memedagger if you had the... priest buff).
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>>127377560
>exp
pretty low in NKtos
>endgame
noone near it yet. max lvl 280 for now. only a few are 170+
>pvp
nothing new. "friendly duel"

a lot of bad changes. market and trade fucked over.
thanks nexon. thanks imc

sometimes small good changed tho
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>>127377173
Schoolgirl outfit when.
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>>127377560
They put the game into official release in closed beta condition. It would be OK if they were aiming for a 2017 release, but they're asking for money now.
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>>127377191
Dont be retarded.
>>127377621
Will you try to level a pyro using only those good pve skills then?
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I knew being a cleric would eventually pay off, I knew it, I knew it.

People told me, over and over again. "Oh healing classes arent real big in this game, there are so many classes that the big three doesn't really apply"
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>>127377173
>>127377879
well, we already have the elin-pedocriminal-like sit emote now

>>127377828
>had a chance to proc a decent heal and other that was really good who did a debuff on enemies with some nice chance after you blocked some attacks
probably to stonk. so they got removed
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>>127376707
I literally saw some retarded suggestion like this in the cancerous shithole that is the ToS forums before.
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>>127344526

i'm most sure they removed buyback because people could remove 'untradable effects' of some player-bought (like matts, who didn't had potential) items with a tricky (sell the item to the npc, relog, buyback). So instead of fixing the problem they just removed the feature? wtf
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>>127378241
>implying here is better
reddit is the only refuge for us toscucks
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>>127378259
as I said
>>127344495

>IMC
>lazy bastards who can't code for shit
pick two

>can't fix thing
>lmao let's just make it a feature
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Is there any hope, /tosg/? For the international version without Nexon?
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>>127378080
>Will you try to level a pyro using only those good pve skills then?
Not him, but give me a free korean account and I will, provided I can also autoattack.
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>>127378259
>what happened to trade?
>why is market so fucked up?
>instead of fixing the problem they just removed the feature
ITS THE IMC WAY ! HOORAY !

dont forget to praise the game and compare it to best mmo "RO" each day
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>>127378621
>being this desperate
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>>127378438
>reddit is the only refuge
anon pls. that shitsite = forum
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>>127378564
>international
haahhaha
>without Nexon
HAHAHAHAHAH
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>>127378628
>english forum on trading being removed
>people coming out in droves to say it's sad that it's gone but it was surely necessary and in our best interests because IMC can do no wrong
We're fucked
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>>127378564
>implying Nexon is the only enemy of the game
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>>127378802
How else do you expect me to demonstrate how good firewall and pillar are?
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>tfw the game will only be good after 3 years of the official release on a BR or Pinoy private server
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>>127378564
IMC is still doing international.

But that doesn't make things better. It just decreases the chance of P2W ruining the game instead of bugs and awful imbalances ruining the game.
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What's the fastest way to get to Orsha if I started in Klaipeda?
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Also, what is the problem with firepillar?

Pyro c2 builds are usually:

Lv 10 Fireball
Lv 10 Flame Ground
Lv 5 Fire Pillar
LV 5 enchant fire (if u really want the 100%) uptime)
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>>127380048
>International releases
>everything is the exact same if not worse, only now the money all goes straight to IMC
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>>127380176
>Also, what is the problem with firepillar?
It has a massive cooldown.
People grab it because there isn't anything better to grab.
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>>127380436
still beats nexon.
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>>127380137
buy a scroll at potion/etc NPC

>>127380176
long ass cooldown

its a ok skill tho. i like it
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>>127380137
get someone to share warpback to Orsha.
what's your IGN? not sure if it works with high level quests.
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Does Detonate Traps detonate every trap? Like every trap onscreen?
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ITS NOT TOO LATE

http://event.mmosite.com/gameprize/
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>>127380436
>only now the money all goes straight to IMC and Gaben
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>>127380773
>ToS beating Warframe
>BaS BEATING LOL

BIZZARO CONFUSED
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http://event.mmosite.com/gameprize/
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>>127380773
>.com
>MMO of 2015
>most of them are not even International released
>some not even mmos
legit award. legit site.
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>>127380773
>It's a difference of 100+
Well. I guess it can still be done if people spammed new accounts and or new fake ones.
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>>127380773
>Lineage 2
That game is still alive?
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>>127381110
>LEGIT VICTORY
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>>127380176
nice public builds tier build
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>>127381569
ENCHANT FIRE IS A WASTE OF LIFE
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>>127374631
How was Bokor nerfed? All I remember was bugs, bugs, and more bugs.
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>>127380481

How is that really a problem when you have 2 very, very good skills to the point of being almost unbalanced thanks to how the game mechanic works? 100% update flame ground is a mistake, it outdps frost clould when you have enough matk (like thauma buffs) and memedmg. Fireball is kinda balance and has a fun mechanic, great skill. Having Firepillar as your "ultimate" was a good choice from the IMC, imo.

Enchant fire is ok thanks the the extra line attack mechanic with is abusable with +memedmg, some buffs and proc stuff like toyhammer. Attribute is good too if you use it on bosses (ball, ground, pillar -> enchant).,

My main concern is that the other skills are also "fun" but are weaker in a sense that boring ground is too good to bypass. I'm not going to dive into the C3 aspect since it has it own problem (which comes from c2 being too good and hellbreath not that worth). Fire Wall is a fun skill that is not that good except in a dedicated c3 pyro build. Flare has a fun potential like Ice Blast, but is hard to balance, maybe it can be a one point wonder or they make another kind of synergy and etc.

Imo. The main problem here is actually Flame Ground, if we don't tore this skill, we have no reason to buff the others and make the class MORE FUN.
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Waiting hurts.
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>>127382071
Frost Cloud is an Elementalist skill tho...
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>put down Pavise
>plant Stake Stockades
>throw some Caltrops in front of it
I'm in a fortress!
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>>127381865
>how is that a problem when you have blah blah blah blah blah blah...
The question was what's wrong with fire pillar.
And what's wrong with fire pillar is it has a massive ass cooldown.
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>>127382916
Quarrel shooters are cute!
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>>127381865
>it outdps frost clould
Hello reddit.
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>>127382916
Don't forget to throw your diving falcon in front too!
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why live
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>>127372648
>Your nerfs came from you being actually good
What's wrong with a class being good? Cryo was good before the nerf too.
Sadhu now is literally possession. Other skills are useless and used only with OOB which is like a joke. They should move possession at c1 making sadhu 1-circle class like psycho/linker or fucking fix it. And buffing OOB won't solve it, sadhu really need more skills. Bokor will be fine with everything just working as intended though.
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>>127384645
Nothing at all, but IMC doesn't like it. Isn't OOB still decent at least for ora ora?
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>more than 24 hours
>still haven't reached bump limit
dead thread
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>>127385267
If international doesn't come out soon I think I will literally die.
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>>127385315
Learn korean and go translate.
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I haven't paid attention since CBT2, and I just heard it's out of OBT in Korea.
Is there any hope? Did they fix anything?
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>>127385752
>There is no PC
>I drink a visible pollen stimulants
>You cannot rest Sequoio to be damaged!
You know what, I'm starting to think you can just google translate this and they won't give a shit.
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>>127386046
>Is there any hope?
There's been patches almost every day since release, but there's been none for 2-3 days now. It could be salvaged.

>Did they fix anything?
Koreans are calling ToS 'Hydra Online', for every bug they fix, two more appear in its place.
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>>127386046
Prove youre aint from reddit first.
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>We're removing player trading to stop gold sellers!
>We're restricting market prices to uh, stop gold sellers!
>Don't mind us we're just going to stop monsters from dropping money to stop those pesky gold sellers!
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>>127387861
>>We're restricting market prices to uh, stop gold sellers!
no one has actually answered me on how is this price range making formulated
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http://event.mmosite.com/gameprize/
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>>127385315

John... This is unacceptable... It's a travesty.
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>>127388626
>http://event.mmosite.com/gameprize/

Why would we vote for TOS? Just makes it appear we accept all the shekeling.
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IMC/Nexon did nothing wrong.
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Who /upset/ here?
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>>127386771
>Koreans are calling ToS 'Hydra Online', for every bug they fix, two more appear in its place.
I kek'd pretty hard.
They at least fixed most of the skill bugs, right?

>>127387148
Kissing is actually thanking. You can't kiss in game.

>>127387861
>Don't mind us we're just going to stop monsters from dropping money to stop those pesky gold sellers
Please don't say they actually did this. I wouldn't be surprised at this point.
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>>127390335
>They at least fixed most of the skill bugs, right?
Hahahahaha
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>>127384406

Do the math, it really outdps frost cloud on bosses and world bosss. frost clould has a bad uptime compared to the 100% from the firepillar. Do the math, forumer. 3 hits/sec for 10 seconds, 30 seg cd vs 100% uptime 1,5 hit/sec coming from a base 1200 matk both spells

Remember, very high matk from int and gear makes the number of hits more interesting than the raw dmg from the skill itself. Frost Cloud is still a better skill (in comparison directly to the FG) thanks to the mini stuns and 'burst', but the cost of going ele c3 is a joke in comparison to a c2 r2 spell. You can pick both skills if you want, but flame ground is broken.
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>>127390335
>Kissing is actually thanking. You can't kiss in game.
If both players use emote trickery to make mouth contact, it's kissing.

On that note I don't think I've ever actually seen anyone use Thank or Greetings for what they're named for. Maybe if they were quick "Thank you!" animations and not leaning forward, eyes closed with a slight blush appearing on your face.
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>>127390335
>Kissing is actually thanking. You can't kiss in game.
That's not true, you can't lie to me!
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>>127390179

/stillhasntmovedon/ here. Maybe Blade and Soul will fill the void in my heart this game created but I doubt it.

It's over.
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>>127391875

It's over.
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>>127391875
The power of love. :^)
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>>127391606
After I heard they're censored the story and gameguard, I think I will pass.
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Started doing Orsha quests. At the first area there's a quest where 3 npc follow you around.

No clue where to take them or anything since game is in Korean. Anyone know what do?
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>>127392284
Neve mind. Got it after like half an hour. You just bring them to the npc.
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>>127392284

Look at the map
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So now that cleric 2/3 gets a shitton of healing tiles, how useful is healing when it comes to killing mobs and bosses?
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>>127392702
the map showed the region where to find the npc's but wouldn't show where to take them so I assumed I had to stay in that region which I did for like 30 minutes mashing space bar on every corner of the map
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>>127385267
Just a couple more weeks. We just need to be patient.
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>>127385267
/tosg/ WILL NOT DIE !

/tosg/ WILL ! NOT ! DIE !

/tosg/ WILL ... NOT ... DIE ...

/tosg/ WILL ... NOT ...

/tosg/ ...

...
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>>127396305
thread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQTq07gihqg&ab_channel=bkarwowski
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Translation underway

P-please wait warmly

International is very soon
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>>127390981
Here your (you).
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>>127397023
Pull requests: 1

Spoiler: It's 10 lines or so of 4 words each
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>>127397023
Dont forget to input some dank memes.
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>>127396305
Nah I won't let it. I'll do my best anon, don't worry!

VIDEO GAMES
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I don't know why I think that being sad in /tosg/ will help the game, but I can't stop.
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>>127398864
Because you didn't join them, other anons are dead now.
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>>127398864
Loli was secretly John but he's gone forever too now. Being sad won't help now that he's gone.
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How do I increase my max TP? Like the free ones I get. Or is that impossible?
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What if we make a kickstarter to hire translators? We could post it on the forums and you know whereddit.
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>>127399607
>he thinks he can increase his free shekels
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>>127399035
>Gay cat is gone
>LoliMeme too
The guild curse
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>>127400227
You think if we find some people who know Korean, we could let them use Cattly in exchange for a translation?
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>>127399035
he left?
why
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>>127399035
>Loli is gone
Wait, that happened? He seemed pretty confident with the guild leading/leveling.
Hope you're trolling
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>>127401773
Faceless old men got him.
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>>127399035
thank god
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IMC needs to clean this game up before the japanese release

I need doujins of the girls being violated horribly by monsters, just like RO
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>>127403402

joke's on the fact ToS has no sexy monsters to rape anyone. RO had orcs, minotaurs. We have.. popolions?
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>>127403402
That's lewd.
Only cute and wholesome things are allowed here.
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>>127403992
The hydras were the best, especially since they tended to swarm together like some giant breeding ground waiting for some unsuspecting cute adventurer to become their new seedbed.

still, the vubbes are basically goblins/orcs and the like, and some of the bosses have potential. I mean there's that one tunneling worm that summons tentacle plants that spew shit out. That's a thing.
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>>127403992
No need, we have Prison Fighters, the Demon Lords, the things from Demon Prison, the weeds from Greene Farms, etc...
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Is anyone still here?
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>>127405007
I'm always here.
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>>127403992
you retarded m8
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hi
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>>127405007
I am. I'll be here until the international beta either flops or is cancelled. Hopefully it works out and IMC was just fooling though.
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>>127405007
I want to watch everything burn, so of course.
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>Be a Korean gamer
>TOS turn out to be ABSOLUTE MADMAN tier, somehow managing to have more bug than S.T.A.L.K.E.R
>New glitch, bug and exploit discovered daily
>Visit /tosg/
>All quiet
You haven't heard? Tree is on fire.
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>>127408805
We're all dead, fám. Enjoy your eternal beta.
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>>127408805
We'd love it if you can enlighten us plebeian tier gamers.
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>>127408805
We don't speak Korean bby. We need players from there to translate the drama for us. Could you do it? :^)
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>>127410961
You can put cards in the pot now?
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>>127409069
TOS has so many technical issues and bugs that people started to take it as a new form of vidya ascending to brave new world.
>Launcher client is based on flash. Loading bar is just there for show- It means nothing. It once forced people to roll back their flash version.
>html tag works in chat. Bet someone's going to rev up dem spam machines.
>Bot managed gold farmers everywhere. IMC doesn't do shit. Solution? Anvils. They'll just keep striking them.
>Cryomancers' snowballing can move : Someone's anvil in use, huge boulder blocking the cave, magical traps
>Cata can stick enemies with their spear. Can do same thing in PVP. When sticked player get cure effect, they can haul sticked player like a taxi. QUALITY indeed.
>Also that sticking can steal the anvil. IT JUST WORKS
>>
So Loli's dead?
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>>127411817
I'd rather call the last three features rather than bugs.

I miss the days RPGs cared more about interaction freedom than muh balance.
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>>127409354
Some faggots who played CBT kept spreading misinformation about best place for grinding while him and his crew grinding in their secret spot.

IMC announced that they're going to ban him and other exploit users, but they have history of bullshitting players, so no one takes it seriously.
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>>127411817
I wouldn't say they haven't done anything... the amount of publicized banned accounts is now up in the mid thousands... but yeah, they aren't doing a good job on the prevention side.
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>>127412720
I agree with this anon but stealing anvils is a bit much. No idea why you can even hit other people's anvils.
Fuck balance though. Make every class playable and fun, then focus on that. No one would really care that Pyro is the god emperor of the game if Cryo wasn't balls awful, for example.
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>>127413542
Cryo c1 isn't unlevelable garbage anymore due to the buffs though. At very least, Ice Pike is arguably quite good now. Hell, having gone Cryo/psychokino/elementalist atm on the korean server, I can tell you that Ice Pike is just plain better than my rank 3 and rank 4 skills... which is actually kind of fucked up.
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>>127414119
It's that much of an increase? I haven't had time to test it. That's good to hear. Ice Pike was always pretty good, just had a long cooldown. What's your build look like? Risked trying the Ice Bolt 1, Ice Blast 4 thing people were considering?
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>>127413352
Most of banned accounts might as well be obviously scripted farming bots. But subtle ones... They're the problem.

You can never trust TOS devs. They have history of bullshitting players, hard.
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>>127413542
>if Cryo wasn't balls awful, for example.
But this is because of balance. Cryo's abilities are more fun than pyro's.

Does anvil stealing mean you can break the other guy's weapon with a failed anvil? Losing a super rare heavily upgraded masterpiece in a duel would really ruin someone's day.
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The only thing that would surprise me is IMC releasing a class called Jew.
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>>127414429
Too bad they called the Jewish class Kabbalist, then.
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>>127414269
>Balance
No no no anon, that implies the imagery of a scale. One side raises and the other lowers until balance is met. What I'm saying is that class just need to meet a criteria of playability isolated from other classes. They don't need to do as much damage as one or as good support as another, as long as content can be done with them and be fun at the same time. Since this is not an endgame focused MMO, who gives a shit about balance. Just make the whole thing FUN
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>>127414897
Then you should be perfectly happy with how cryo was before the buff, except for subzero shield not working, because they were able to do everything in the game so far.
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>>127415148
My problem with Cryo was more a problem with how the class system works and how the damage system works. As it stands a damage oriented class is more often than not completely obsolete after a certain point if only one circle is invested into it. As the game goes on a third circle class might even be pointless once rank gets high enough. This is because of much higher base damages and such.
If I wanted to make a support Wizard and take Cryo as my main source of damage then I'm not going to have much fun after awhile.
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iobt soon?
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>>127414119
>Cryo/psychokino/elementalist
trash
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>>127415726
End of january.
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>>127414240
I went Ice Pike 5, Ice Bolt 4, Ice Wall 5, Ice Blast 1. Ice Pike is just plain good, at level 5 it has a base attack of 420 and tends to hit targets multiple times, which is kind of crazy for a rank 2 skill, and has 2 overheat on a cooldown of 25s. No complaints. It deals enough damage and it's freeze will make it useful at even high ranks.

Ice Bolt is generally my standard attack I use whenever it's off cooldown, the two hits thing makes hit for ok damage, it casts fast, and has 3 overheat on a 15s cooldown.

Icewall is situation... honestly if I didn't have Psychic Pressure I'm not sure I would make use of it at all.

Ice Blast I use more than you'd expect, anything that's frozen anywhere near you takes damage, so in that regards it's not bad, but it's not a very good skill. The biggest issue, aside from the relatively low damage payoff, is that simply that it's unreliable. For some reason it has a decent chance to be resisted. I'm not sure why that's a thing at all, if I were frozen I'd rather take the damage and unfreeze than resist it, but if you can't rely on the skill to even do damage when you cast it, you're better off casting something else. Worse, sometimes it just fails to target the enemy at all, no resist or anything (which is what happens in the screenshot).
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>>127415401
The issue you're describing is literally figuratively a scale. One side starts out heavy and then gets relatively lighter as heavier things pile up on the other side. You're complaining that your chosen side is excessively outweighed at high levels.

However, that isn't a problem with cryo, since the issue is your higher rank support classes don't do any damage. Even if they changed the scaling, 5 damage oriented classes would do a lot more than a single one. Furthermore, cryo is a mixed cc/damage class, and its cc never gets obsolete. Frost pillar will be as good at rank 10 as it is at rank 4.

If you define "fun" as "doing good damage" then maybe you shouldn't pick almost all support classes.
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In short, just not worth the time it takes to cast it.
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>>127417079
>another bad Flare
kinda nice animation, but shit too
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>>127416312
Cryo into elementalist sounded like a smart idea, but I hadn't counted on electrocute being such a worthless skill. It has a long cast that, and unlike every other wizard skill you can't move during the cast. It also has such a long wind up animation after casting that even if you cast immediately after freezing an enemy, they will probably thaw before the lightning finishes chaining. And that's if it doesn't chain repeatedly to a single crystal instead of frozen enemies.

Worse, if you get hit during the wind up attack it almost always interrupts you, eating your 35s cooldown. Sometimes when casting it just does nothing even when nothing is hitting you. The fact that it does less damage than frost pike even on frozen enemies (which gets +50% vs ice AND +50% vs cryo frozen targets) is a bit confusing.
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I fully expect everything to be 100% okay when I wake up.
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>>127411941
>>127401773
>>127400682
>>127399035
can we lure her back with tasty Talt? ;_;
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>>127420083
Shh. Guild leader is sleeping.
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>>127420045
What's it like to be insane?
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>no player trading because "gold sellers"
>fixed market prices with a 30% fuck you tax on top because "gold sellers"
>lowered vendor prices
>somehow you're supposed to amass ten million shekels completely by yourself if you want to start a guild
IMC?
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>>127420391
>>fixed market prices
i still wonder why forum and shitit do not protest against this North Korean TOS bullshit.
damnit commies!
wtf happend to glourious 'murica?
where is muh Freedom?
>>
>>127420759
Are people actually okay with that bullshit? At this point I'd be happier with bots shitting up the economy than suffocating the market any further.
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>>127420391
there is little hope.

Trading coming back soon*tm for 1st Class Citizen - Token Users

800k for a Token isnt that much at higher lvls. and ten ppl paying 1m each would be alright. or 20 giving 500k each or so
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>>127421031
last night i saw zero complains about it at reddit or forums.
also didnt saw or hear about KRs being mad about it. no protest siting this time.

>reddit
yes nigga. i check many sites for stuff/info/tools/patchnotes/translations if i like a game. like once a day or so. mostly shit there ofc. got no acc at these cancerous sites tho
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>>127420391
*15 million completely by yourself

You need another five for the guild tower itself.

IMC what the fuck. I have never heard of any other game, let alone an MMO, pulling this shit.
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>>127421405
>last night i saw zero complains about it at reddit or forums.
Because these cumguzzlers are eating up the shit IMC is handing them pretty well, hell, this is exactly what the forums wanted in the cashshop discussion thread.
>also didnt saw or hear about KRs being mad about it. no protest siting this time.
Half of the population has already abandoned ship, that's the best kind of protest you could put up.
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>recent posts

both, forum and tos reddit are even more ded than tosg

dad game
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>>127421405
There's a few threads on it, here is the biggest one.

https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/major-complaint-market-now-requires-cash-to-use-trading-removed/124971/3


It's so stupid I still can't even wrap my mind around it.
>playing with friends
>get an Arde, friend really needs it
>literally cannot give it to him
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>>127421547
>>127421405
>>127421031
>forum
FUCKING COMMIES
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>>127421923
>kill mobs for quest / daily quest
>be super lucky and drop wizard bracelet after only a few min
>be swordman or archer
>wife is wiz but cant give it to her
JUST FUCK OUR SHIT UP FÀM

most retarded shit in games ever.
at least you can kinda trade items for 2 hours after droped in the fucked up clusterfuck they call diablo3
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>>127421923
no word about recent "limited market sell price" bullshit there tho

can only hope that is temporary
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>>127420391
>>127421508
Gotta counter that inflation somehow.
Really it's for your benefit.
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>>127321326
Who would want Fatalpulse to draw doujins of their favorite games? I don't understand.....
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>>127400682
I'm still here, I am just not playing the Korean version since my leveling partner quit.
>>127400881
I am not to be exchanged for things, you do not own me anyway.
>>
>sleep for like half a day
>wake up
>thread barely moved
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>>127399035
Isn't Loli the guy who said he's got no internet for a while? Or the guy who said he'd try QS to test their buffs once he gets his internet back,
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>>127399035
>>127400682
>>127401675
>>127401773
>>127420083
I am not gone. I've mentioned it in the thread a few times before, but I am without internet for a couple days. I don't want to push my luck by connecting with yet another different IP, so I am waiting until I may go back to the same location I was using to play before.

I am probably way behind everyone on /tosg/ now, but i'll catch up eventually. It's not like anybody will be rank7 anytime soon.
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>>127426958
We're all burned out senpai
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>>127426945
I'm afraid he got rare deasese rodelerius retardius and died from ass cancer.
>>
>>127427167
If that's how you feel, slow down or quit for a little while. Those last few days I finally had the chance to catch up to my chinese finger paintings backlog, as well as finish the VN I had started playing in betweens Betas. I am full of motivation to get back on kOBT.

Even if I'll quit eventually to move to iOBT, at the very least, it's important that someone on /tosg/ has a guild in kTOS. Changes will always be done to kTOS first, so it's nice to be able to preview those changes long before they hit the international version.

>>127427307
Rodelero is increasingly more frustrating as time passes, but that's nothing I didn't know already. Once I hit Rank6 it'll improve a lot, but god knows how bad it'll be between Rank6 and 7.

IMC has yet to make ANY balancing changes to Rodelero, at all. I expect them to take a long look at the class sometime in the near future, in the same manner they have been looking at Quarrel Shooter recently.
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>>127428107
Hilariously that would increase the likelihood people will buy that item.
Place in Gabja and see results.
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>>127428107
Teach me how to do this senpais
I want to put Grita, Gesti and all them semen demons in there.
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>>127427595
We're still waiting warmly.
A new patch just hit, don't know what else was changed but we're up to 5 channels now.
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>>127430610
Nice to see you've worked up to such a high level, Karga. I am all the way back at 139 when I last logged in.

Has nobody translated the latest patch notes?
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>>127430825
I blew my cards at 153 to get to 166 to ride the lv8 daily card train, a few more days and I'll have enough to reach the 175 dungeon.

The usual sources don't have anything on the patch yet.
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>>127431215
Did you save all your lvl6 and 7 cards?
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>>127432272
No, used all my lv6 to get to 130, then 20ish lv7 to get past the 135 wall, which I kind of regret now since after 10 or so levels it was back to a crawl again.
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http://tos.nexon.com/community/tosnotice/view.aspx?n4ArticleSN=100
more bans

http://tos.nexon.com/community/tosnotice/view.aspx?n4ArticleSN=102
something about channels and potions?

http://tos.nexon.com/community/tosnotice/view.aspx?n4ArticleSN=103
dungeon/reset problems fixed?

nothing big or really new
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whose pantsu is the best?
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no doubt: Sorc
but go ahead, try to post better
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>>127435086
a slut
between pure and pure slut is the sweet spot
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>>127434142
while i appreciate the banhammer happy devs, makes me really worry about international release.

people sat on glitches for the whole beta and only revealed for the laugh when the beta was ending, and kcbt never even knew about it.
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>>127436460
Because gooks didn't tested anything. They just lvled to 200 in a blink and did some pvp and thats all.
>>
So I've made a Quarrel Shooter and am actually having fun

what should I go for a rank 3 class adv though? I was thinking hunter for the free pet, but then I believe I'd never play my archer ever again.

I'm also not sure how good/fun QS2 is.
>>
>>127432475
Should've stayed as long as possible at the 130 without using cards. The dungeon is one of the only places where the exp is ok.
>>
>>127432475
Is there anyone in your meme guild group who doesn't suck and actually knows what he is doing?
>>
>>127436674
QS3 is where the fun is at.
Running Shot:
Doubling your auto attack damage
+30% aaspeed
Can attack while running at full speed
>>
>>127438708

Last time I checked running shot only gave the attack-while running buff.
Plus I've been spamming stone shot anyway so I'm not sure if that would be very good. If only Running Shot also made you able to use stone shot while moving.
>>
>>127438168
Yeah that really became obvious soon after.
This was during the time dungeon limits were still at 2 runs too.
>>
>>127434982
Cattly's
>>
How come everyone says to reroll if I picked cryomancer/Kino

Is Linker better or something? :(
I seem to be doing a ton of damage like this
>>
>>127439701
Who cares?
No
>:(

Fuck off
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>>127439982
Oh look, an unhelpful person.
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>>127440424
He's right though. Enjoy the class you picked. Also stop being a faggot by using emotes.
>>
>>127440424
I did just help you, though.

Here's another tip:
Go back to Reddit.
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>>127440424
>unhelpful

No
>>
I tried to like this game...but I felt like its another single player mmo..
maybe it was the cbt phase...but without an economy, valued crafting, very rare items, competitive node harvesting....everything just feels like shit
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>>127440652
>>127440682
>>127440802
You guys are trying too hard. I think I know who belongs to Leddit now
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>>127441129
>4chan filenames vs somewhere else

yes, we all know. also the guy is clearly retarded for asking stupid questions.
>>
>>127440958
It's just us not understanding korean. In icbt2 chance encounters where much more frequent.
>>
>>127439701
everything you do someone will call you trash or a retard, unless it's a meme. Yeah...
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>13KB patch
>>
who Dawn of Midgard here
>>
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who dead here
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>>127446650
Why am i even lurking this general, i wonder.
>>
How do you make money?
I need that token thing.
>>
>>127446791
get to a higher level
>>
>>127446791
Farm items at red kepa. Everyone and their mothers are doing this.
>>
>>127447176
Didn't they change the spawn location to random?
>>
>>127447569
So what, bots can now run around and even jump, go check Cafrisun spawns.
>>
>>127447176
and endup on a list like this?
http://tos.nexon.com/community/tosnotice/view.aspx?n4ArticleSN=100

sure lad
>>
That Big Red Kepa spot was really good even to legit hardworking players, because you could kill the huge mobs of red kepas and jukopos there while the big onion takes it time to spawn, lot's of mats to gem (or to sell) and the easy loots from the massive onion who gave more gpm than maps 30 level highers.
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>>127448995
now look at that baka gaijin
>>
Big Red Kepa's spawn range is now considerably larger, so while you can probably kill him a bunch of times, it's not really worth the effort. Cafrisun is probably next on the nerf list given the amount of bots camping out near him.
>>
>>127448968
>>127449469

why is IMC so incompetent and ineffective?
there are a lot better way to fix that, like 'Now only 1st Class Citizen aka TokenUsers get any Item or Silver Drops"
>>
>>127415726
Middle of march
>>
>>127452091
2017?
>>
>>127452245
2016, also will still be considered a cbt
>>
>>127449469
Cafrisun spawn is surprisingly empty now, only honest hardworking players left. They must've banned a lot of bots.
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>>127452489
>>
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>>127446650
>>127446760
>>
>>127452918
That's just a Shinobi throwing his shurikens. Nothing suspicious.
>>
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ITS MY MONEY AND I WANT IT NOW
>>
>Trading restricted
>Item prices are forcefully stabilized
>Delayed and limited silver withdrawal
>Forced inflation control
>Aftermarket destroyed

We greeks now
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>>127456490
>>
hi
>>
live
>>
bump limit reached
someone make new thread
or don't
>>
>>127459226
>>127459358
How much you got paid by jewxon to keep this thread alive?
>>
>>127460152
1 TP per 2 Hours :^)
>>
It's time to let it die.
See you on release!
I'll update the FAQ tomorrow, maybe.
>>
>>127460073
>>127460820
Bye guys, it was fun while it lasted.
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Why create a new bread if we are just going to die again?
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>>127461000
Calm down, no1 is making new thread, also check em.
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>>127461000
what a nice number to end the thread on!
I'll miss you guys.
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It's over.
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Thanks for killing the general, angryposters who reported everyone 3 days ago. Mod rampaged through the thread and banned everyone left that bothered posting about the game.
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>>127461691
Good. Now we can die peacefully.
>>
If I pray to Vakarine before I hang myself will I wake up in the database with with a harem of 72 peltastas?
>>
>>127461691
>Posting an anime picture and saying "x players" is talking about the game
>>
>>127461691
>not knowing how to reset router and clear cookies
they must be reddit then. good riddance.
>>
>>127461691
Your welcome faggot
>>
If you make a new thread you will get cancer and die in 1 year.
>>
The goddess has left.
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>>127462728
A little upset there buddy
>>
>>127462728
test
>>
>>127463050
Upset that these rule-breakers are going unpunished.
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TUMBLING DOWN TUMBLING DOWN TUMBLING DOWN
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>>127463562
Pardoner isn't in the game yet. Please only post images that pertain to video games.
>>
>>127462710
good. that's what i pray for every day.

>>127463624
>>127463624
>>127463624
>>127463624
>>127463624
migrate
>>
Holy shit I take a break for one week and come back to this? Is general a kill right when they finally buffed low level xp?

Also should to do the maplestory reboot or iRO while I wait for international since Korea killed KTOS?
>>
>>127463678
why you do dis
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