/gdg/ - Grim Dawn General

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1st for Demolitionist is objectively the best mastery.

Third thread now, right? Didn't expect it to last this long to be honest. Not that i mind.

>OP finally added the forum post
Not that it will deter shitposting in the end but good job, Jeremy.

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>Build Planner
http://grimcalc.com/

>Item Database
http://gracefuldusk.appspot.com/items

>>127226659
>objectively the best ARPG
>didn't expect it to last long

D3 sucks shit, PoE sucks shit and revolves around grinding nonstop and 1-skill-spam builds, Torchlight 2 is fun but repetitive and has only 4 classes without flexibility, Grim Dawn is fun and long.

>>127226636
Arcanist > Soldier = Nightblade > Demolitionist > Shaman = Occultist

Eye em oh.

Does /gdg/ ever play multiplayer together?

>>127226812
I tend to agree with you.

Torchlight 2 disappointed in so many ways. I actually prefer Torchlight 1.

A lot of people seem to defend PoE by saying "end game is maps, 40 hours in PoE is like 1 hour in grim dawn". I understand it needs to be like this to support the whole F2P thing, but seriously, if I've spent 40 hours in a game and it still feels boring, it's not a good game.

Here's to hoping that the final patch somehow fixes the FPS drops.

How many times do I got to kill this fucker under burial hill for him to drop an epic

>>127226601

sorry for my grammar on a cantonese rug sewing forum, friend

>>127227350

bruh

>>127226806
I think we should link the build editor tool instead.

It lets you view devotions, thought some of them are broken right now (the big ones like abomination, leviathan, blind monk, etc. are bugged), it lets you plan things out in a rudimentary way.

http://www.grimdawn.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23967

I asked this in the previous thread but no one answered me so I'll ask it again.

-What are the Pros & Cons of Brute Force vs Primal Strike?
-If I set some proc on Primal Strike, Arcane Bomb for example, will the proc only occur on the enemy I hit with the attack, or do the chain lightnings that leap on the foes have a chance to proc the attack as well?
-Related to the question above, do Markovian's Advantage and Zolhan's Technique proc off the chain lightning?

>>127227719
Well, brute force is a passive that only affects two-handed weapons. Primal strike is an active spell with a cooldown. They can be used together.

Yes, devotion spells will have a chance to proc off the secondary affects of spells, too.

Autoattack passives only proc off basic autoattacks and autoattack replacers.

>die to Discord endbosses
Welp that was fun while it lasted. Maybe one day I'll complete BoC but my resists a shit now.

I want necromancer mastery.

>>127227719
You probably mean savagery, not brute force. Primal strike can be modified with a passive to be usable as an autoattack replacement, but it doesn't become a true autoattack modifier like savagery or cadence. It won't proc passives that work with autoattacks like upheaval or feral hunger. It will trigger the devotion skill you link to it, but nothing else.

>>127228123
Thanks, that's very helpful! Would Brute Force be considered an auto attack replacer?

What is everyones favorite build atm?

My retaliation saboteur is fun.

>>127228291
Brute force is a passive linked to savagery, not a real skill. Savagery is an autoattack modifier indeed, any skill that has "when used as your default weapon attack" is one.

>>127228291
No, it's a passive. Autoattack replacers are shit like Cadence, Savagery, and Fire Strike. They function as empowered autoattacks but with a small energy cost, and are affected by all passives that modify autoattacks (such as feral hunger)

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>>127228365
A tie between bleed based Trickster and poison Witch Hunter for me so far.

Pyromancer was pretty fun too, but i didn't get my build quite right the last time i tried it.

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BRRRWITCH

>>127228365
Nightblade/arcanist for dat survivability.

I'm gearing myself more towards elemental/cold damage though, rather than piercing.

>>127228434
>>127228460
Ok, gotcha. So my options are either go Primal Strike with the Transmuter or go Savagery to build up stacks for more damage and then use Primal Strike.
Now I need to figure out what to do about Physical or Lightning resistant monsters and I'm good to go with my Shaman.

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>groble witch doctors

>>127228738
You don't really need both. Just tie a tsunami to your savagery and you'll get all the AOE you need, later wind devils also provide good AOE and reduce enemy resistance to elemental attacks. Wind devils are a good choice for a bruiser focused shaman since they scale with your damage instead of separate pet bonus stat, like most other pets. Primal strike with the transmuter is a strange choice, since it doesn't trigger any of the autoattack passives and those are pretty useful. I guess you could use it if you go for an ability or pet focused build.

>>127228885
They would be more annoying if they had more HP.

The way they are now you just target them first and they're no problem.

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>>127228885
>Skeleton priest somewhere stuck in the wall healing hero mob

>no nature, spirit, or dream masteries

It's shit.

hey there i finished act 1 but i'm totaly underequipt where is a good spot to get some nice equip- i play blademasta but all that i find are some wands and other caster gear like the game want that i reroll my class -..-

>>127226812
true, but pure single player games tend not to maintain generals too well, unless you have really autistic thread regulars.

Does anyone know where to get the Sanctuary relic recipe?

>>127229619
We should get some /gdg/ multiplayer parties going.

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>>127229592
>tfw a mod will just port all the TQ masteries into grim dawn
>tfw the amount of crazy fucking combinations we could do with them all

>>127229615
Get dynamite and unlock secret area in Flooded Passage. Depraved Sanctuary for good Harbringer sword roll + chest.

What is the ideal amount to level Savagery? With /16, I feel like maxing it would be a bad idea.

>>127229776
A shame we'll have to wait until at least feburary, then the game officially launches and they give us modding tools.

Okay, so I'm almost at a boss that ALWAYS gives me shit. The Herald of Flame.

How does he work? Is he weaker to physical than magic? His resistances are insane.

I suspect I might be able to hold up better this time as my character is a beast of a tank and has crazy regen abilities, but just plinking away for like 100 damage a hit on a boss is frustrating as hell.

When exactly this game will come out?
I want to play it, but can't stand all the bugs in this game.

>>127230028
>mfw trying to kill him as Arcanist
Get Sacred Strike / Haunt relic or some shit.

>>127230319
February. They haven't given an exact date afaik.

>oh well these level 23 dudes dropped a key to their base lets go inside
>the mobs are all 4 levels higher and the boss is 6

WHY

>>127230028
Herald is crazy. I completely wrecked everything up to him but he barely took any damage at all.

>>127230489
You'll get used to that eventually.

>>127230457
Thanks. Not long now.

>>127230568

I had to use up like 10 potions

Is this normal?

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>trying to get monster infrequent with good stats

>>127230712
Suggests your build is a bit glassy. I find that with most of my builds though.

But places like that get easier the higher your level and the better the equipment you have. Say you go back there later on, they're still higher than you but you have blues and greens instead of yellows and more add ons and better skills, and the place is much easier.

>>127230712
Yeah. Wait till you get to act 2 and open your first skeleton gate.

>>127230842


Usually I dont feel glassy

I facetanked the warden pretty easy, but Salazar and his buddy just raped my asshole

>>127230959
Yeah, like I said when you first find that place its pretty rapey.

I actually just remembered how bullshit Salazar is. Fuck him so much.

>>127231324
>tfw grinding Salazar back when SoT was first introduced

>>127229768
I don't know if it's possible but I'd be down for a multiplayer BoC group. I'd probably die instantly though.

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I'm new to this kind of game and I need a little help.
In the Savagery skill, it says it gives me +% lightning damage. Is does it mean I get that bonus on every flat lightning damage source that comes from my weapon, including the flat lightning damage on the skill itself? And in the skill Flame Touched, does the +% fire and lightning bonuses apply to every fire and lightning damage source I have? If yes, how do I differentiate global bonuses from weapon ones?

What does the animation for a Feral Hunger proc look like? It procs off Savagery, correct?

Will GD have mods?

>>127231625
Looks like red fang slashes. Yes.

>>127231693
I meant more so what does my character do when it procs? Like how does he swing his weapon? Thanks; I suppose it doesn't matter then but wanted to make sure.

>>127231587
It is global, but it's active only when using Savagery. You get the % bonus as long as you hit people with Savagery, you lose it if you deal damage through other skills/basic attack.

>>127231851
He just swings it. I think he does a slightly different swing, but I'm not sure.

First time playing soldier, if i spec hard into shields will i be invincible?

>>127230351
>>127230508
I actually raped him this time. Sacred Strike was doing like 2.3k and I was able to regen enough with my nightblade shit that I didn't even need a potion.

>>127231915
Yes, but don't be stupid and put no points into damage skills or otherwise the enemies will also seem invincible.

You can achieve a 97% block chance or some shit.

>>127231907
They tend to be but maybe I'll finally notice it for myself soon. Meh.

>>127231915
dont, unless you wanna die of boredom pick dps first

>>127231991
Well this is better than nightblade where i had to spam pneumatic breath every single encounter

>>127231883
So if I build up savagery and then hit people with Primal Strike, it gets the bonus damage unless I don't let the charges go to 0?

>>127232082
Well, yea, NB is pretty ass until you can get some lifesteal to supplement your glass cannon build. Just be happy you have the option of the best heal in the game that also happens to be a big dps increase.

Try turning it into a blademaster if you want some survivability.

>>127232086
% bonuses are global unless they are skill upgrades. So yes, in theory.

>mistborn talisman gives you a savagery attack

Noice. Think it might be worth using over something like Rampage? I'm a nightblade/arcanist so I don't actually have a default attack replacement.

If Wind Devil has a
>5 second cooldown
And lasts for
>12 seconds
How can three be summoned at once?

>>127232572
>8 energy cost per attack

My energy regen might be too shit for this right now.

>>127232576
You have your third out for a total of 2 seconds.

>>127232576
Yes, but their damage doesn't stack.

>>127232576
Because 12/5 is 2.4 but you can't have 4/10 of a Wind Devil so it rounds up to 3 for 2 seconds.

>>127232576
0sec: summon 1st wind devil
5sec: summon 2nd wind devil
10sec: summon 3rd wind devil
12sec: lose 1st wind devil

>>127232697
Ah shit you're right. Math is not my strong suit.

>>127232698
I didn't even ask that.

>>127232745
>>127232776
True. Thanks guys.

>>127232576
1
>5 seconds
2
>5 seconds
3
>2 seconds left over

So I just wanted to move on to Elite but saw that you can't pick veteran anymore. What do you have to do to unlock Elite veteran?

>>127232902
You don't.

Basically, Normal mode is just casual mode. Veteran is baked in for other difficulties.

>tfw keep getting epic crossbows

Why do they give me the worst shit

>>127233049
So Veteran is only for the normal difficulty/first playthrough?

I unlocked Elite difficulty after beating a boss. Is there a way to change my current character to Elite? Is there a New Game +?

Anyone have any lightning-related legos they don't want? :-)

>>127233286
Options menu at the start screen. Just change difficulty.

>>127233371
Oh, nice.

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>>127232572

Unless you're using pistols Lethal Gambit can be a default attack

>>127233182
Yeah. Veteran is "Normal" difficulty. selecting "Normal" is actually Casual or Easy, but they didn't want to make people feel bad. There's no Veteran option for the other difficulties.

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>>127233371
>>127233493
>defeat a hero enemy 9 levels above me
Holy shit this feels so good

>>127233559
Man, 15 energy cost an attack is a lot when your absorpotion shield eats up 10 energy a second. My regen is only like 2. I really need to get more.

Are they ever going to fix the pathing problems of Shadow Strike and Blitz? This shit still annoys me to no end. If you'd at least just attack the enemy closest to your target after being stuck for a second, but instead you have to watch your character run in place while the other enemies hit you or the attack fails.

>>127233593
Alright, thanks for clearing that up. Normal without veteran was boring as fuck.

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Before I buy this up, how's the multiplayer and 'endgame' holding up? aka how does it hold up after you beat the campaign?

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Please decide for me

>>127234790
It doesn't.

>>127234895
K. Still worth the buy then?

>>127234790
>multiplayer
its all client side so its going to be like original diablo. Now, back in the day i was part of the DSF legit community and we played togeather with out cheatery, that sort of setup would work if someone wanted to make a steam group or something so we could all chat and organize games i guess, but its not going to be like how d2 was or anything where you can just join online play.

>endgame
its an ARPG, what is this endgame people keep throwing around? The endgame in arpgs is farming the hardest difficulty for better items

>travel the roads
>giant flying electricity things
>literal giant boars with elemental powers
>and a bunch of dudes with guns

How the fuck do the rovers get around

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Any demolitionist here? How does the Big One work work? Does it launch a bigger missile at the end of Mortar Trap or at the beginning?

>>127234887
Do you have actual problems with survivability? If not, take Hellion. Wyrmscale is way better overall.

How infrequent are monster infrequents?

Killed this cunt at the end of smugglers pass quite a few times now and no Bonecrusher.

>tfw sold them all on other characters

WHY

>>127236678
can't you just buy them from the secret shop?

Is health regen useful at all? I have the option to go Tenacity of the Bear and Mogdrogen's Pact, but HRegen doesn't seem to do anything to help you. Is wendigo totem better for a melee character?

>>127237067
The Bonecrusher is a monster infrequent so I don't think so.

WHAT SECRET SHOP MATE

Should I be putting more than one point into Savagery? Is Tenacity of the Boar worth investing into?

>>127237128
HRegen is more of a nice little bonus. I find that enemies do too much damage for it to be really useful. Wendigo totem can help heal you up though if you drop it in a large group, and also if you get the upgrade I think it gives a chance for your attacks to give you back HP too.

Is there any info on what the differences are between Normal and Veteran?

I know Veteran monsters have more HP and probably hit harder as well, but anything besides that?

>>127237556
It seems like you get better loot in Veteran too.

Is hardcore worth playing right now or are there some bugs that cause death? Was thinking of making a commando.

Has anyone killed mogroden?

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>>127236678

>Finally got a Bonecrusher to drop
>It falls off a ledge and the item name disappears

>>127237556

There's a higher spawn rate for heroes in Veteran I think

>>127237304
So Vindictive Flames is useless? I'm having a lot of trouble seeing it's effects on my character, since all numbers in it are crap. Health regen seemed high enough to drop points into it, but enemies are just spiking me.

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>>127238214
>It falls off a ledge and the item name disappears

>>127237248
Putting more points in Savagery gives additional charge levels, up to 8.
Only if you have enough points. OA bonus is nice but not always worth it.

>>127238503
That sounds neat. Maybe I'll level it until I get the 8 charge levels then.
Hm, alright. I might focus on Pact and HotW instead then.

Is there a calculator for devotions?

>refresh server list
>game crashes

wooooow

How do I get some easy bristly furs?

Where am I supposed to get tainted brain matter? I've been killing every major Aethereal boss I can think of repeatedly and still haven't found any.

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>>127241247

If you have Blood of Ch'thon there's a smith at Gates of Necropolis that can convert them to brain matter

>>127240580
Sort of.

>>127227581
I think all of the big ones are broken (end tier ones, llike abomination, leviathan, tree of life, etc.). But you can at least start to plan out a general direction.

It's better than grimcalc for build planning too. I don't know whether grimcalc has been updated yet, and in this one its simpler to switch classes and shit.

>>127237556
More enemies, more veterens. Meaning more loot and more exp.

>>127241878
Cool, I was wondering why there was a smith in the middle of nowhere in Necropolis. Thanks.

>>127237128
Health regen is a great little side bonus to being a tanky character. However, if you seriously need some self healing consider Nightblade.

Outside of new classes, what do you guys want to see in the coming expansion?

I want spears.

Just bought this game. I should have done more research because wow.

It was only 15 bucks though so not too big of a loss.

I really thought they'd use the type of online that Diablo 2 had, I mean why the fuck wouldn't they? The game would have been so much better. But instead it's just a single player game. There's the option of multiplayer and trading which is nice but the fact that they don't even try to stop or even discourage people from cheating pretty much ruins that. People can just use basic cheat engine tables to get whatever they want.

Hopefully this will all change in the future, its a nice little game but I dont see the point of offline loot hunting ARPGs.

>>127242897
>online multiplayer
>offline
What

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Should I even be attempting this? I'm just starting to try out veteran and it's a lot harder than I thought it would be, I have to chug potions non-stop and I didn't think it was possible to run out of constitution until now.

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>Make occultist soldier
>health regen outta every hole
>full Perdition set
>acid and poison modifiers at 235% - 280% with Dreeg eye as main skill
>poison bomb on weapon, manticore and scorpion devotion skills
>still get my shit fucked every now and then
What socketables/augments give me good aether, chaos or vitality resistances?

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Guys I don't understand this one, the description says it purges buffs from enemies and removes maluses from you, but the effects doesn't say any of that, which one is it?

>>127242897
You should post this in the GD forums so the devs could think about changing the way it works.

>>127243353
Come back later if it's too hard for you.

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>>127242897
>I dont see the point of offline loot hunting ARPGs.
And what is the point of online loot hunting ARPGs? Showing other people how lucky you are?

>>127243576
Doesn't it scale with my level? So even if I'm 25 it'd be level 30. The biggest problem I'm having is I miss/fumble 75% of my attacks on the bosses, despite having almost as much cunning as physique.

>>127243772
That and trading. Just a town system and anti-cheat would make this game amazing...for me at least.

>>127243517
The dispel effect never shows up in tooltips for some reason. It's the same for the Arcanist's Nullification spell.

>>127245341

So it works?

How does Iskandra's Elemental Exchange works exactly? Does it only works with weapons or can spells like Panetti's Replicating Missile benefit from the bonus elemental damage and energy leech? I am bit new to the game and google doesn't help.

>>127245396
Probably.

>>127245546
It only works with %weapon damage skills and default whacking

>>127228176
me to, the game needs more spookiness.
Necromancer more focus on pets,vita/cold dmg.

>>127228365
Whichhunter which focus on bleed dmg.

How does the Constellation Rat work? The second point that says.

70 poison damage over 5 seconds
+15% poison damage.

I noticed it doesn't get linked to skills so does it mean every hit i make with anything is going to get that bonus? Or is it just melee/ranged basic hits or how does it work?

>oh cool a skeleton knight, lets fight it
>BLOCKED BLOCKED BLOCKED BLOCKED BLOCKED BLOCKED BLOCKED BLOCKED BLOCKED BLOCKED BLOCKED BLOCKED BLOCKED BLOCKED BLOCKED BLOCKED BLOCKED

>>127230712
Everything that doesn't run pets,solider skills/shield or Stormcaller are glas cannons. Or you stack every point in Physics. At least when you play Veteran in the beginning. In a 2 player game its more easy as a glas cannon. I think they need to balance that shit a little more.

>>127242787

Crossbows and guns actually mattering

>>127226447
Hello general,
i have read up on this game and watched 2 hours of gameplay, but all i saw was someone using lots and lots of auto-attacks.

Did he simply pick a boring character build, did he use his character wrong or did he plain suck?

Do items give you abilities?

Are the abilities spectacular?

>>127226447
will this run on my toaster sandy bridge intel hd?

everything else is above specs

>>127243353

Nice toaster anon

>>127231915
I have exactly the same experience as >>127231991 and >>127232078 stated. I cant die but the enemys also wont die. But hell my shield-tank-battlemage was intended to be played with a group of 3...

>>127247587
Thanks senpai. Glorious 10 fps on absolute minimum settings. Game still looks good by my standards, and I'm used to playing at ~15 fps anyway.

>raise the dead devotion
>"oh shit i can finally be a necromancer"
>skeletons live for 10 seconds

Fuck off.

>>127247736
I feel your pain

>>127234887
>spoon feed
Just look at your main skill dmg on th 2cd character page and look if the dmg rises or falls. then you think about the amount how much it falls or rises and then you think if the second attributes on the gear is worth the rise or fall.

>>127235413
Well i use the mortar in big fights and on bosses but i cant spawn it at the Endboss for what ever reason. Well the text state the mortar fires at the ende but it really doesn't, its more like the 3rd or 4th shot. And its fucking awnsome. I just keep a point in there for the flashy atom explosion!

>>127247483
You know, it's kind of ironic that a lot of GD fans hate on PoE for being a game where you focus on a single skill for your character, whereas GD is a game where you focus on a default attack. They'll tell you it's sooooo different though...

>>127237128
i have like 130 hp regen but i dornt feel like its very useful. :/

>>127248484
>focus on a default attack
Maybe if you're a complete shitter.

>>127243353
Do Depraved Sanctuary after you finish Act 1.

What are some good constellations to combine with phantasmal blades?

>>127240823
market farming.
>open game
>check both vendors in Devils crossing
>quit to menue
>repeat.

>>127231991
>You can achieve a 97% block chance or some shit.
You can achieve 100% block chance as well as 100% block recovery without too much issue.

>>127248750
Falcon, Assassin, Unknown Soldier. Pick some defensive ones too, atleast if you are HC and/or going for ultimate.

>>127247428
This so mutch.
I was excited for a two handed rifle build with a hellhound pet. But marauders belt killed all my intentions and now im a Pistolero with does 10k dps on lvl 60 -_-.

Rifles and cross bows are so underwhelming. I hope the legendary rifles are better.

If i want to make the tankiest tank that ever tanked who can also dish some damage, what class combo should I pick?

>>127248056
I saw that and i would like to test a pet build with that necromancer skill.
Would be cool if duration % apply to that live time. All the battlefield would be spooky after a enemy group.

>>127247483
The game gives you freedom in distributing your skill points around two skill trees and that means that you are better off spending them on few powerful skills than spreading them around many weak skills. I'm a level 44 shaman and I have 2 active skills, not counting the autoattack replacer - lightning totem and wind devils. 2 more of my skills are semi-passive auras. And I'm kinda thinking about culling one of them to put more points into defensive passives. Items do give you skills sometimes, as does devotion tree, but those are mostly passive.
Some of the spells are pretty spectacular, yes.

>>127249454
Battlemage is nice. Use a shield and the auto heal and mavens sphere.

>>127249828
Dear Phaneesh,

100 rupees has been deposited to your account.

- Arthur Bruno, head of Crate Entertainment

>3 hero harpies all together and they spawn a bunch of their buddies to apply the lube on your anus before they triple pen you

This game loves throwing you some bullshit

>died in SoT in the chamber of souls

I was doing fine, got to the next level, took a break and checked the wiki to make sure I didn't miss anything, and then got raped.

I was not expecting all those hero spawns after the first one.

What to expect with the final boss?

Also, what's up with the chaotic rift in the blood harvest. I just went in there to say hello and its spooky

>>127250384

>manage to kill all of them with endless kiting
>not a single one drops above a yellow

rip

>>127250012
>telling a dude that the game has few skills that you spam repeatedly is shilling

>>127250558
>What to expect with the final boss?
Lot of kiting.

>>127250558
He freezes you a lot.
Chaotic rifts are relevant to a roamer quest you get after hitting honoured with them.

>>127249954
sweet. I'll give that a try! thanks!

Thinking of starting a new character so I can have a bit of variety switching between it and my main.

Which should I choose (playing HC Veteran): An Occultist/Nightblade poison-focused character or A Demo/Soldier gunslinger?

>>127229906
Maxed you get 8 charges so you get a nice boost to damage and primal strike. I just got savagery to 16 and its been working out good so far

tfw I always feel like a glass cannon and sometimes without the cannon

>>127251307
her is my build.
Try to go for cold dmg :
http://grimcalc.com/build/SPYMVJ

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>>127251515
Go Demo/Arcanist and watch the world burn.

>>127253509
Thanks! I was just gonna ask about skills lol. do you go with a 2h weapon or a shield?

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>>127251903

>>127248484
Amazing that you hate a certain game's fans but what does this answer?

How much does armor actually matter?

Essentially, how long can I get away with using my Nighthunter's Chestguard

+skill items for the one particular mastery I actually want to use are a bitch and a half to find

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>>127253878
shield for max tank.
You can take Templars faith an epic shield for example and maybe fiddle a little bit with the build and go for lighting dmg instead.
also i took cadence first because you can convert it to 100% elemental dmg but i saw that lad arc got a taunt and for coop the taunt is more useful. But dmg wise i would choose cadence and convert all to elemental.

>>127254346
I might also add that the build is also fine with blade arc because you should use sky shard and flash freeze for your dmg.

>tfw you've gone through act1 so many times the last couple of days, only to discard the character at act 2, that you can barely stomach the thought of playing GD again.

>>127254782
iktf

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Grim Physics

>>127254782
this is why i quit titan quest
>nothing fun in vanilla
>whoever made paths deliberately crippled casters' late game even more
>every other mod is total dogshit
I just want a fun build and what do I get?

Right clicks or spam 0dmg abilities

>your character suddenly just explodes and dies in one hit

I fucking hate when this happens

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>>127255240
show me your chars/builds.

In the occultist tree i maxed out whitchfire and put one point in blood of dreeg.

>lady barroth

FUCK

OFF

>>127255446
Relating posts:

>>127253686
>>127249227
>>127248297

>too scared to play hardcore
>too ashamed to continue playing on softcore character if i die once

fuck

how often does ulgrim give out soup

is this game worth the price tag

>>127256386
Once per session

>>127256589
yes

Does savagery boost Phantasmal blades?, or is it just a boost for savagery and not other skills while you have stacks?

>>127257112
Savagery boosts everything.

>>127255046
I had lots of fun with my first Phantasmal Blades character, until I realized bleeds dont stack in this game... which kind of threw my bleed-focused idea in the trashcan.

Then there was the conjurer with 2x badass pets who just made the game too easy.

Then I thought about playing a sword/board character, but I came to hate Cadence rather quickly.

Then I decided to try my hands at a dot-type character again, occultist focusing on acid and bleed damage this time around, but Dreeg's Evil Eye is too clunky to use and hits everything it shouldn't.

Then I attempted a max offense blademaster, but once again my choice was limited between default attacks and Cadence, and a bunch of support.

Finally, I made a sorcerer for some shooty action, but it has the same problems as Dreeg's... they ought to rework projectiles somewhat.

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>>127254849
>legs left on the fucking floor

oh my fuck

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Huh. Somehow I teleported past the gate before I finished the quest to open it.

>>127257950
Same happened to me once. I just spawned straight in front of the respec NPC.

>>127258198
That's exactly what happened to me. Just minding my own business killing some zombies, and suddenly poof, I'm teleported to the respec girl.

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>blade arc

I'm a bleed addict

>>127250804
>>127251107
Lame. I'm a 2h Warner so that shit is going great to be tough

>>127237180
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rONKuwXYueI

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i'll give yeh a good proyce on wut eh got lehhft.

>>127258198
>>127258387
It's the game's way of telling you your build is shit.

>the bone crusher isn't consumed when making the mistborn talisman

OH FUCK I'M SO HAPPY

>>127259242
are you me? i was just crafting it

>>127258698
Oh fuck, I had no idea. Thanks mate.

>>127258472
I'm a warder too. I had to spend couple of minutes running around putting down totems, calling the wind devils and chugging potions, but he went down.

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>>127259853
I must be.

SOMEBODY GIVE OR SELL ME A SHARD OF BERONATH

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Is there any way to open this?

This game is much worse than Diablo 2 and Path of Exile.

>the classes are generic and uninteresting. The Soldier for example only learns a cleave, a charge, and a bunch of boring as fuck autoattack modifiers.
>bosses are not memorable at best, incredibly shitty at worst
>literally more brown in the color palette than Call of Duty
>music is generic as fuck

I can't believe I was suckered into buying this garbage, PoE is free AND 100x better.

>>127260859
(You)

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>>127260859

>>127261069
Great arguments.

>>127261069
>>127261104

Nice arguments, I can see that only intelligent people enjoy Grim Dawn.

>>127261069
>>127261104
You two fucks are every bit as bad as the original shitposter. You three should start a multiplayer party and try to beat each other at becoming an hero.

>>127261371
>>127261168
>>127261239
There's nothing to argue about.

You like PoE. Congratulations. Go play PoE.

>>127261371
You should join them, you'd fit right in.

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>>127261371
>criticizing a game is now shitposting

???

This general is like Reddit with how much circlejerking is going on

>>127261481
Yes because I sure love seeing children reply to other children and rewarding them for their infantile behavior all across every thread of any populated board.

>>127261502
"It's shit because it's shit" doesn't really qualify as criticism.

>>127261564
You're making that painfully obvious, yes.

>>127261745
No, it's shit because of badly designed classes, uninteresting bosses and music, and a small color palette. I think I already stated that in the original post, but /gdg/ is too retarded to read apparently.

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This pile of bones reminded me of a SNES game which I can't remember the name.

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I love this game

>tfw Warder tank rolling through shit blocking all hits and mitigating all damage while blade arcing everything into oblivion with insane bleeding and trauma damage, becoming a Zealot driven Paladin of the War God going into hell and butt-raping demons left and right in front of their families.

>tfw Sorcerer dual wielding pistols that cast magic on hit, as if Rambo went to Hogwarts and shot voldermort in the throat

>>127262250
Reminds me of those skull piles in Super GnG.

>>127261940
>everyone in the thread likes it
>comes into a general about the thread just to shitpost about it
>wonders why people dislike this
>MUH HUGBOX GO BACK TO REDDIT

Why don't you fuck off back to /v/? You obviously just want to shit on things instead of talking about this game.

I've played PoE so I know how much bullshit is in your post because PoE is also full of fucking brown, has awful music, and its stat points consist SOLELY of autoattack modifiers and % enhancements. Your fucking gripe about skills is that you didn't play until you were level 10 (about an hour of game time if you don't breathe solely through your mouth) where you suddenly discover you can multi class. You also apparently didn't use the fucking addons that dropped because they function similarly to PoE's ability crystals, only they offer benefits as well as abilities, and the abilities don't level, which alss encourages you to upgrade items when you need to. These abilities also scale off of any +% enhancements you have.

Gee I can sure remember any fucking PoE bosses from the fucking hundred hours I put into that piece of shit.

>>127262515
>>127262250
It's clearly the floor of new londo ruins in Dark Souls

>>127263153
shitpost successful, i got an angry response

alright, i can leave now

>>127262330
Warder tank is glorious.
I hope they add more shield attacks in the expansion, the bash component and blitz is a good start but i want more.

>>127260859
So since the classes in Grim Dawn are all boring and generic, you're going to go play the game where the classes are literally only attribute differences and every character can access the same active skills?

>>127260403
PLEASE RESPOND

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How can the other masteries even compete with Demolitionist? The damage is fucking insane and it's all AoE.

>>127262515
>>127263336
It was a boss fight on one of the first levels (if not the 1st) of the game. If I recall correctly, which I probably don't cause this was 20 years ago, it was some post-apocalyptic futuristic thing, the bossfight was some skeleton dude on top of a bone pile throwing shit at you while the screen flooded with some green acid. I never figured out how to get past that fucking level cause I was young and I couldn't speak english yet, all I had learned at school was shit like "hi, my name is anon".

>>127263943
Demolitionist has nodefense.

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>>127263943
Does Demolitionist get a magical fuck you laser?

didn't think so

checkmate Ulzuinists

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>70 hours played in the last two weeks
Send help

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>>127264424
>1
>
>3

>>127264180

This

It's all aoe, dots and retalation damage.

Your only defense are actives like flashbang

>tfw don't know what class to use with shaman

>>127262330

>Paladin

That's no paladin, commando is paladin, you get flame strike, all the retalation shit and flame buffs and then build around it.

Also the light of empyrion devotion.

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>>127264846
Nightblade

Focus on bleed and use a 2H
Throw a few points in PB and Focused Throw for some shotgunning

Can one ability hold multiple devotion skills?

>>127265112
Nope.

>>127265112
One devotion per ability.

>>127265197
>>127265197

Do I need to kill creatures with that ability for the experience gain to count?

>>127263695
I have some, hardcore or softcore?

>>127265393
Nope, you just need to have it slotted.

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>>127257437
As if two pets aren't bad enough

>>127265587
The one that doesn't have a designation.

>>127265746
That looks cool.

>>127265746
>all that retaliation without even having acid armour active

HOW IN THE FUCK

>>127265869
Well I have a spare on both so, what do?

>>127247264
it's vague, but my guess is the latter. and i'm not sure that it stacks on itself, either.

Server: gdg
pass: 123

PLEASE JOIN

>>127266062
Make a server or I can, either or. Your choice.

>>127250012
>explaining game mechanics is shilling

>>127266510
You make one.

>>127266664
It's called "plsgibitem"

>>127266510
gdg
169

>>127266009
He's using an particular set.

http://grimdawn.wikia.com/wiki/Perdition

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>>127266009

>>127266761
>waiting on anon.wav
inb4 I got tricked

>>127266747
The game isn't showing up

>>127267260
>>127267135
Ah nice. I have some of that set, never knew the damage would amount to so much with the right investment.

>>127267375
That was a different anon. I posted the server under that reply.

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From the forum post
>Originally when we started GD, we imagined creating something about the size of Act 1. There were no other ARPGs out and we thought, we could just do a very small indie game as a way to start out and hopefully make enough money to do something bigger. Then 34095730975097 other ARPGs released and so we realized we needed to do more.

>mfw we have to thank Torchlight and Dungeon hunter for Grim dawn

>>127267416
It's pretty good until late elite. The biggest problem is really ranged attacks not proccing retaliation damage and bosses taking a while to kill.

Saboteur it's boring, some fun classes? Or am i playing it in the wrong way?

>>127263416
>i was just pretending to be retarded

Can I assume that death's vigil has cold related weaponry?

>>127265746
>>127266009
how do you get retaliation dmage?

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>>127267416
I have nothing invested in acid retaliation, it's just the set pieces that add fuckloads of it indivitually.
>>127268162
Devotion, skills, items... as usual.

>>127268325
Well you have +acid damage right? does that not also increase acid retaliation? Or were you going for a poison build?

I don't have any motivation to play this game. What is the point of mind numbingly grinding and shit when you can just download a save file, use cheat engine, or edit your save file? Titan Quest 2.0. I month from now the game will be 80% cheaters or people making rainbow sparkle mount mods. Stellar work Crate.

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>>127268780
>Well you have +acid damage right? does that not also increase acid retaliation?
Absolutely fucking not.

>>127268840
So you can't play a game the way it's intended to be played without Always Online Big Brother watching you and holding your hand?

>>127264424
Conflagration

>>127268780
I'm still going for a poison-tank build, but not using this set while having it seemed like a bad idea.
It chopped off a lot of health regen and poison damage though, and acid isn't as useful especially if I run out of energy every other minute..

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>>127268114

Yup

>>127268840
>I lack the discipline for self imposed restrictions
>I cannot have fun unless my hours of grinding for gear can be admired by anonymous users in town who are probably AFK anyway
>I don't care about the journey I just want to grind the end game

all I got from this post.

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I thought two hero monsters at once was insane

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where do I equip off-hand items? If it goes on the shield slot, the game is not letting me put it there. any ideas?

>>127269641

It's not letting you because you don't have enough points in Spirit m8

>>127269627
Wait till four.

>>127269641
>not sure if trolling or really this clueless
it goes in the shield arm, but you don't have enough spirit to use that particular off hand.

>>127269641
You don't have the required Spirit.

>>127269727
fuk! totally missed that! Thanks!

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>>127269627
I was sure they had nerfed that.
Every time i've been to Burrwitch riftgate since the last build i've only gotten a single champion, on veteran.

>>127269858
I got two on vet last night

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>>127269627
Try 4

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>>127270341
try 8

>>127268840
so?

>i only play games so i can be better than others

maybe mmo's are more your speed

>>127268840
Making a character with a playstyle you enjoy. Progressing, exploring the world (and there's quiet a lot of hidden little things in this game), reading the lore bits that are amazing.

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>>127267875

Saboteur is probably best played as a CC and/or retaliation+damage reflect build since you'd be all over the place in terms of the elements in the main skills. It's gonna suck until you get lots of damage reflect items and "when hit" procs.

Your skills will look something like this ~level 50 or so: http://grimcalc.com/build/xkOwS0

You will want to be surrounded by mobs (Shadow Strike) for retaliation and DR (for ranged enemies), then use life leech retaliation (from gear), PB and BB to heal up. If you're worried then bump up physique some more after level 50

Might be fun if you're looking for an active playstyle

>>127269627
Most I've ever seen is 5 in one place.

Luckily I managed to kite 2 of them away while the other 3 stopped following me after a while, or it would have been pretty much impossible.

>epic heavy armor goes through the floor
BUT WHY

>>127272991
I had that happen to me once.

Luckily the nametag was still clickable so I could pick it up without problems. :^)

>>127226806
>tfw Conjurer
>hit Elite
>Have to verse this broken and uninspired boss again

Any neat lightning-related legos anyone wants to donate to a suave anon?

>>127276004
>giving lego away for free
nah I'm good

>game pauses when you alt tab out

I hate when games do this.

>>127276527
Only in single-player. I see no issue in it. Actually quite handy.

>>127276527
Doesn't pause for me. I'm playing on borderless fullscreen though.

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I kind of assumed Haunted Steel would be the best to socket this sword with and prematurely used it, but what else would work? Would any other socketables increase its dps significantly?

Is it just me, or does dual wielding pistols feel clunky as fuck

>>127276520
>it's good because it's purple
I wish!

>>127277509
Pistols are pretty lame. Rifles are pretty lame. Crossbows are pointless.

No idea why GD added these and neglected them since the >dawn of time. There's no fucking passive or devotion things dedicated for them (IIRC) and there's next to no incentive or reason to use them. Especially since caster is generally better and easier to use (in terms of gear at least, not so weapon dependent) and melee stomps everything anyway.

I love rifles and crossbows in general, but I've never cared to used them seriously in GD. So disappointing.

>>127277968
Wait until the expansion releases next year so you can play the gunslinger class :)

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>>127278079
With the Death Knight and Necromancer class?

Hahhaha fuck you anon not funny!

>>127278276
I want to play an Orc Demon Hunter pls

>>127277094
I don't know why you assumed a Warder would benefit from +25% Vit damage.

>>127280003
Im not using it for that, im using it for the attack damage to health.

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>>127264424
>>127269280
:^) demo wins again.

>>127281291
Anyone can use that.

>>127281523
Well the question was if demolitionist gets a laser. Even if everyone gets it, demolitionist still gets it. Demo wins this round.

>>127281764
>Demo
>Winning anything
Haha. Only thing I'd give is a good stun.

Why are people so ready to trust you in GD? Like Ulgrim.
>yo let me open this rift-gate to a safe place with good people!
>trust me dw ;)
What stops cultists or whatever doing this to trick people into enterting rifts just to slaughter them or whatever?

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>>127262250
Incantation?

>>127258406
hear this:
Curse of frailty into blade arc.

Is this the Farmstead liberator? I also have this weapon for my bleed build im gonna wreck shit hard.

>>127283773
they try.

>>127283773
Because as a Taken the player is unique in that he can open rift gates wherever the fuck he pleases, so even if the cultists who are covered in blood and surrounded by chaos energy convinced someone that they're friendly, they can't open a rift to lure them into.

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Why are the kids always getting fucked over?

>>127284874
Wait, is the player some special faggot? I thought they were just another nobody.

>>127285030
If you read the prompts on the screen instead of just skipping them, then you'd read that the player is unique in that he was possessed by an Aetherial but the Aetherial fled his body when he was about to be hanged. That's why you can turn rift gates over to your side and teleport through them.

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>>127285030

>>127285256
So how'd you escape the hanging?

Also I read notes and most prompts/NPC. Just somehow missed the things specifically about the player.

Is it true that a lot of the end game content is totally chaos immune?

might as well drop this character now if that's the case

http://grimcalc.com/build/oQNdIA

My current build so far. Playing a right-click to kill build with Solael + Firestrike. Soon as I finish the skill trees for those, I'm not sure what else I will build. Any idea?

>>127285438
I think Hangman Jarvis said the Aetherial presence left your body before you died so they let you down or something.

About to try the game for the first time, is there any point in not picking Veteran mode alongside Normal?

>>127285978
I usually leave it off for the first 5 or so levels since you start with garbage and it's quicker to level through quest completion. After I have some points invested in stuff and have cleared the very beginning I turn it on.

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Almost got fucked

Fuck Salazar and his stupid tricks.

What other classes are good for two-handed builds? I don't wanna play Shaman.

>>127288694
Blademaster was fun, I did a Blade Arc bleeding build

When you host a multiplayer game, what do you set the level range at?

>>127289774
No limits. I just set password and make sure the difficulty/veteran is all right.